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Capone Takes ON TMNT!!

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here, with a film that taps into a franchise that I know a lot of readers of and writers on this site hold dear. It's a sacred part of many of your childhoods, I know. My only exposure to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were the three films that came out in the early 1990s, and for the most part, I remember being entertained by at least the first one enough to go see the sequels. But the films never inspired me to check out the comic book source material or watch the television incarnation of the band of martial arts-trained, talking creatures, each bearing the name of a master painter. I went into TMNT genuinely excited to see it. The idea of doing a fully computer-animated version of the group opens up a world of possibilities that the live-action films did not. So imagine my disappointment to get more of the same — the same jokes, the same type of story, the same conflicts and issues the boys face with maturity and their skills as ninjas. And rather than focus on a potentially awesome story about an army of monsters set loose on an unsuspecting world, the film spends more time with the inner conflicts in the group. All of this combined to leave me saying "Is that it?" by the conclusion. Without going into too much detail about the plot (I honestly don't think it's worth it), the film opens with the team not together any longer. The group's sensei, an oversize rodent named Master Splinter (the late Mako), attempts to pull the boys — Leonardo, Michelangelo, Donatello, and Raphael — back together after a mega-rich industrialist (voiced by Patrick Stewart) attempts to gather up the aforementioned army of creatures. My favorite part of the film is the Foot Clan, led by Karai (Zhang Ziyi), a stealthy ninja group whose mission and allegiance is not always clear. Other voice are provided by Sarah Michelle Gellar and Chris Evans as the Turtles' human companions April and Casey. And I'm pretty sure I heard Kevin Smith tooling around as a minor character but really adding nothing to the proceedings. First-time feature director Kevin Monroe (who also wrote the film) comes from the video game world, and it shows. The visuals here are pretty great sometimes, but the bland story and standard-issue rock music soundtrack left me severely underwhelmed. That being said, the film's conclusion sets up what I think would be a much better sequel featuring the return of the group's primary nemesis, who would undoubtedly put a serious hurt on the Turtles. TMNT is an OK reboot of the franchise, but there is room to grow and improve.


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  • March 23, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST


    by Mr_X

    ninjas gotta eat

  • March 23, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Sarah Michelle Gellar... What Were You Thinking?

    by tonagan

    (obscure reference to an SNL skit from the late 80's - RIP Phil Hartman)

  • March 23, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Kevin Monroe gotta eat!

    by classyfredblassy

    Great. first they let music video ass clowns direct movies, now we have "video game people" gettings shots at directing films. That will work out just great. Blow me

  • March 23, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Damm you Micheal Bay

    by Mr_X

    <br>tmnt.. old and busted..i cant see a revamp being successful.. i mena yes i watched it as a kid.. but now? well kids have a zillion tv channels, mobile phones, xboxs and the flipping internet nice to see SMG getting some work... should've made that buffy feature i'm telling ya</br>

  • March 23, 2007, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Capone is way off

    by Death of rats

    The best thing about the turtles has always been the group dynamic. I liked it a lot. Definitely the best movie out of the three (the original third one was such a joke it just doesn't count). As many people have said, the "main" story is weak. Blah blah blah monsters blah blah blah 3000 years! blah blah blah. But the real story of a family broken is really well done. It's similar to what happened in the first movie, but in this one it's handled better, as are the characters. Leo and Raph's characters are very well fleshed out in this. Unfortunately Donny and Mikey aren't seen as much as in the other movies, but even their characters are fleshed out better than in the original movies. Whenever they are shown they're not just cracking one liners and catchphrases. They actually act like they're being affected by what's going on with Leo and Raph. Donny in the "I don't want to get involved, but really, come-on guys!" way, and Mikey in the "little brother who hates to see his bigger brothers fight" way (I actually like the idea of Mikey being the youngest brother. It gives a reason for his ADD) And the Leo vs Raph fight was absolutely beautifully done, especially if you consider that this is an upstart animation studio in Hong Kong. Raph's reaction at the end of the fight is just heartbreaking. As far as the look of the movie goes, I thought it was very well done. I've been an animation student for 2 years and have seen a lot of crap animation and character models, and these weren't crap. Instead of going for a realistic look for the human characters they went for an "The Incredibles" look, which I thought worked, which is a surprise considering the very very realistically modeled New York. Remove the characters, and the backgrounds looked damn near photo realistic. As for the turtles themselves, they look different, but the models are not without detail and are designed well. As for whether or not you like them, it's not a quality thing, just a personal preference thing. Which moves on to the animation portion of it. Skin moves over bones and muscles. Muscles flex realistically. Faces show emotion and thought behind the eyes, more than animatronics ever could in the early 90's (no offense to the Jim Henson Company. I love their stuff). And the fight scenes, oh god the fight scenes. I don't know if anyone here knows anything about the animation house that did the movie, but they're an upstart based in Hong Kong. Apparently (according to interviews) they're big fans of Hong Kong Cinema. Well, it [B]really [/B]shows in the fight scenes. Things look like they really hurt in this. The Turtles are actually nimble in this. They're fast, flexible, and fight like they actually know Ninjitsu. It really is well shown off in the Leo vs Raph fight. Seriously, if you were a fan of the old movies, go see this. If you liked the new cartoon (pre Fast Forward) go see this. And if you liked the 80's show and nothing else, kill yourself. This movie is awesome.

  • March 23, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    I just got back from seeing this

    by Lando Griffin

    and Capones take on it is pretty identical to mine.

  • March 23, 2007, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Why do we care about his opinion?

    by Strshp2rpr

    He never wathced the cartoon? He just checked out the movies to see what all the hype was about? Pshhh...the Ninja Turtles were arguably the most important thing in my life from the ages of 6-9. Clearly this movie is the biggest and best thing since sliced bread (or at least Episode I, which was my next obsession).

  • March 23, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    teenage mutant ninja sex pop quiz

    by Mr_X

    <br> you're a teenage mutant ninja turtle and want to get it on.</br> <br> do you a) get off with humans b) get off with other animals c) try and recreate the experiemnt that created you with females and become a cradle snatcher d) experiement with your brothers in some sort of incestious relationship or e)fight crime </br> <br> so the group arent together in teh begining of the movie.. where exaclt does a mutant ninja "hang out" arent ninjas by their very definition supposed to be hiding in the shadows. being a huge fricking tutrle is hardly being steathly is it </br>

  • March 23, 2007, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Capone is wrong but it's not too shabby...

    by FilmFanatik

    Yes this film has some flaws. My biggest complaint was the prologue. It wasn't necessary. They end up retreading the whole thing later anyway. Unlike Capone, I found the conflicts between the turtles the most interesting part of the film. Particularly Raphael and Leonardo. Overall it was, in my estimation, the best of the sequels.

  • March 23, 2007, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Turtle taint...

    by FilmFanatik

    First time I've seen that on the turtles. I was shocked. lol

  • March 23, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Oh no, it's... as mediocre as we all expected

    by Mgmax

    I mean, really, it's one thing to pretend that Batman movies have something to say, but Teenage Nugent Mini Turbos or whatever they are, that's like having an emotional investment in that Howard Huge comic that's in Parade magazine or something.

  • March 23, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Photorealistic ninja kittens eating human hearts.

    by Bronx Cheer

    When does that movie come out?

  • March 23, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST

    A Reboot?

    by ThrowawayVote

    Capone, you sillyhead, a reboot is when you start over. This takes place after the third movie, so it's a sequel. Go watch the first three movies again, buy the cartoons on DVD, eat a pizza, go to a yard sale and buy the Turtle Van, and diffuse all the bombs on the original NES game. Slacka.

  • March 23, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Ooh My God!!

    by Redfive!

    TMNT is exactly what it use to be,abunch of talking Reptiles,animals and monsters cracking jokes,using Nun-Chucks and eating Pizza.It wasnt the uplifting masterpiece that I could show future generations and have there lives uplifted by the spirit of the movie gods. TMNT is just fine the way it is.Its alot like the comic,the first movie and the TV series all wrapped into one.the question is how much do you love the characters.if alot your gonna love this,if alittle your gonna think its fine and not really then your not gonna care for this. If they would of done something different people would of cried about it.

  • March 23, 2007, 11:32 p.m. CST

    It won't get a sequel

    by performingmonkey

    Seriously, even though a sequel with Shredder (or Shredder's daughter, or whatever the fuck it's supposed to be) would be good, the chances of it happening are slim.

  • March 23, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Best of the Ninja Turtle Movies by far!

    by Defiant

    It seems like some people were expecting 300 with this which is just silly. First TMNT movie was decent, the second and third sucked. This was entertaining with action scenes that few CGI movies have even attempted to do, while at the same time retaining the humor of the original series, with the characters more fleshed out than before. Much better than what I expected from seeing the commercials

  • March 23, 2007, 11:41 p.m. CST

    TMNT fucking rock

    by roccotheripper

    You can't make a good opinion about them unless you have seen the animated series. Best cartoon ever when I was a lil kid.

  • March 23, 2007, 11:48 p.m. CST

    I disagree with lots of people here

    by Hyphin

    A good turtles film is VERY possible. It just needs someone who was into it as a kid do it. That's the problem though, most of those people are like me, around 20 years old. Last time I checked, there werent too many 20 yr old filmmakers getting fairly large projects in Hollywood.<p>Basically, the TMNT is a dark story. I know, you can laugh, but honestly, look at it. I think, when I look at the mood of the first film (which I thought was very good) I see a dark atmosphere with good humour which tended, in my opinion again, to look like it could have benefitted from expanding on that dark atmosphere.<p>A dark TMNT would be awesome. Anyone wanna add/argue?

  • March 23, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    "How about...cowabunga?"

    by Gozu

    "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" was a pretty cool movie and holds up for the most part today (except for Shredder's master plan of corrupting childrens minds with drugs and video games so they can steal random shit like TVs and VCRs). Sure it's dated as hell, but how do you think "TMNT" is going to stand the test of time? Kind of wish it was live action, with Elias Koteas as Casey Jones, and maybe one of the other gazillion villains from the cartoon. Krang anyone? Slash? Baxter? Rat King? You can make all the backgrounds and monsters CGI, but damn it, I want my Turtles to be martial artists in rubber suits designed by Jim Henson, with at least one (though prefereably more) voiced by Corey Feldman.

  • March 24, 2007, 12:07 a.m. CST


    by roccotheripper

    Gozu and Hyphin are right. We need fans making these movies. And not new stupid villians. We need Krang, Baxter Stockman, Beebop and Rocksteady DAMNIT!

  • March 24, 2007, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Fantastically Mediocre

    by McGsStepson

    Seriously not great but no horrible either. And since when was April not a reporter and since when was her love interest that other human? And since when did that other human carry a baseball bat and not a hockey stick? Seriously - I could give a shit but the friend who was with me kept yapping about this shit.

  • March 24, 2007, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Oh ye gods

    by Death of rats

    If anything the turtle franchise needs to get as far away from the 80's series as possible. Stick with the comics and the new series.

  • March 24, 2007, 12:19 a.m. CST

    I wonder if Kevin Nash plays Shredder

    by Darth_Gonz

    Hopefully he doesn't tear both his quads for no reason whatsoever!

  • March 24, 2007, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Peter Laird

    by jamsun1227

    One of the original creators of the Turtles had a hand in this sequel. I'm sure he knows what he's doing when it comes to his material. Hyphin -- I agree it would be nice darker, but your other comments are wrong. Most people who grew up on the cartoon are in their late 20s, early 30s, the same age as some of the major filmmakers in Hollywood. I understand your point though. As a fan of the original film and cartoon, this one did a nice job. If you go in to any movie with too much hype behind it, it won't live up to expectations. This movie's been highly anticipated for some time now. I loved the character development of the turtles. And like others have mentioned, this is the true story of the film. Look at the Batman series. No Joker in the first remake. Instead you get a lot of character development. This is the same thing. Redevelop your main characters and then bring in the big bad.

  • March 24, 2007, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Oh Capone you Fool.

    by Raphman

    Though, since your only exposure to the Turtles was the movies, I would expect soemthing liket hat from you. What made this movie great was that the monster angle....was the sub plot. They foucsed on building the characters and making them more akin to their comic book incarnations. It's not the same type of story as before, because it's more focused on character than on action. And the humor is more like the first movie. More dialouge based rather than on-sight humor. I guess to really appreciate this movie, you have to be a fan, because thats who Kevin Munroe targeted this movie for. Also, Kevin Munroe is from an ANIMATION backrground, not Video Games.

  • March 24, 2007, 2 a.m. CST

    Capone just blew this review. TMNT was refreshing.

    by Vi

    Saw it. Finally some heart behind "the visuals." I'm beginning to wonder if Capone is a genre fan or a scab off Ebert's backside.

  • March 24, 2007, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Think I've been swayed into seeing this

    by Boondock Devil

    I did love the original movie when I was younger.

  • March 24, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST

    I can't believe he spoiled the ending...

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    OH well, I'll still see it at some point.

  • March 24, 2007, 3:38 a.m. CST

    If this thing bombs...

    by Death of rats

    I'm going to be really disappointed. If this team had a larger budget and a little more time (I think this thing was turned around in a little over a year) they could really make something that would put other animated studios to shame. I can't believe that this is the studio's first effort, the animation is fantastic.

  • March 24, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST


    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    im sorry dude, but that was a really lackluster review. can we hear from harry? i wanna hear him ramble on about his adolecent April O'neil fantasies and his theory on her regenerating hymen (sp?) sorry...kinda drunk...takn the kids to see this tomorrow and as a turtle fan i really cant wait. i grew up with the cartoon and toys so a bi of camp isnt going to kill the film for me.

  • March 24, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST


    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    im sorry dude, but that was a really lackluster review. can we hear from harry? i wanna hear him ramble on about his adolecent April O'neil fantasies and his theory on her regenerating hymen (sp?) sorry...kinda drunk...takn the kids to see this tomorrow and as a turtle fan i really cant wait. i grew up with the cartoon and toys so a bi of camp isnt going to kill the film for me.

  • March 24, 2007, 5:09 a.m. CST

    TMNT-thumbs up!

    by D-Man

    My son (and I) had been dying to see this movie and counting the days until it opened. We took him on opening night (his first). The theater was pretty full which I thought was cool since there weren't a lot of advance reviews for the film. I had read a few mixed reviews on the film so I wasn't sure what to expect. Lot's of young parents and their kids (think Incredibles-type crowd), then the Friday night regulars. When the lights went down the place was rocking. Kids cackling at slapstick meant for them, adults laughing, lots of clapping in our theater. Great time, great movie. Very cool Pixar feel to the animation and the character design on the humans. Check out Patrick Stewart's Bob Parr inspired character. The turtles finally move and fight like you think ninjas should. No offense to the first movies--which were cool in their own ways--but you trap the best martial arts fighter under 30-40 pounds of latex rubber and its gonna slow them down and limit what they can do. The animation really lets the turtles cut loose when the scene allows. My son (and my wife) loved it and was clapping along with the rest of the theater when the credits started to roll. How cool is that I thought to myself? If you ever read the comics--see the film. If you ever liked the turtles in any of their forms--see the film. If you are a fan of great animation--see the film. Good times. Peace!

  • March 24, 2007, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Sucked major 80's ass...

    by Negative Man

    ...seriously, if you hated 300 and liked TMNT (I was 19 when the first live action movie came out), you may be an idiot. At least the 90's movie had that 'Yeah, we know we're a take off of a Frank Miller comic...' feel, but after what I saw tonight, I feel the new TMNT was almost a Mac 'n Me

  • March 24, 2007, 9:24 a.m. CST

    it was good for fans of the original

    by teddanson37

    is it a life changing film? no. but it is good. it's not as dark as the first film, but it isn't as bright and happy as the two sequels. it's a step in the right direction, leaving the opportunity for an amazing sequel to be created. and i disagree with CAPONE about the monster thing. i was way more interested in the whole inner conflict between the turtles than i was about batzilla, ugly-kong, and the rest of the pokemon rejects. I'd rather see them kick some foot ninja butt. that'd be a heckuva lot more entertaining than watching the turtles get their shells handed to them by giant monster #4. and my only real problem with the animation was the strange lack of human bystanders, or just extras walking the streets in some scenes. and also i didn't like the freeze frame with the turtles names appearing as each made their first appearance. and i'm not sure april and splinter really belong in the last battle to the extent that they were. never the less, this is still a good movie for those of us who loved the first film.

  • March 24, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    The movie ROCKED

    by WolfmanNards

    It was comparable if not AS GOOD as the first movie. Definitely better than 2 and 3. It had the right combination of comedy and good drama. It did something new with the characters. It developed them. Thats something that only the first movie did prior to this.

  • March 24, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Wow Capone why don't you actually put in an effort...

    by cekma

    I liked it, I had my problems with it but I liked it. But I'm not getting on you for not liking it, no. I'm getting on you for clearly not watching the film carefully. The film is a sequel it is not a reboot. There are THREE REFERENCES to each of the original films (one for each.) "2 minutes for high sticking" Mike or Ralph says this and it's a reference to meeting Casey Jones in the first film. The giant OOZE canister with the company name that created it is a direct reference to TMNT 2, this was the ooze used on Tokka and Razor and Super Shredder. The turtles have this on their shelf. They even referenced the God Awful third film! The specter that brought the turtles back in time breaks at the end of the third film but Mike hangs onto it. What was on the shelf at the end of the film? THE BROKEN SPECTER! Would you like to clarify your statement now Capone? It's cool not to like it but don't say something is something without making the effort to do the research, watch the old films, etc. I hate that shit, judging without knowing.

  • March 24, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Kudos to Throwawayvote

    by BillEmic

    Your post had me cracking up - Turtle van at the yard sale, diffusing all the bombs in TMNT on NES, etc. Hilarious stuff and brings back memories for sure. I have to admit, part of me wanted to see this flick just for the nostalgia trip but, I don't know, without Cory Feldman doing vocal duties for the Turtles it's hard to get excited. I'm only half joking. I had a good life to myself when I overheard someone at my college say, "Yeah, man, I can't wait to see TMNT!" Like it's somehow more cool if you abbreviate it instead of just saying, "I want to see to the new Turtles movie!" Kinda reminds me of when New Kids on the Block tried to achieve street cred by calling themselves "NKOB." Just call it what it is, you know?

  • March 24, 2007, 11:17 a.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Courtney Solomon was into D&D as a kid. Obsessed. Spent a decade finding money to buy the rights to make the movie and another 2-3 developing and making it. So it's obvious that an affection for the source material is NOT the only pre-requisite. And in this case, I just don't see a lot of established, capable directors with true vision that are TMNT fanboys from back in the day. So we got what we got. Be glad it's at least fun.

  • March 24, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Fuck the haters. This movie rocked.

    by Warcraft

    It's about time we got a solid american cgi movie, and the critics are shitting all over it. Yeah, I loved the Incredibles, but I was more entertained in the long run by TMNT. God forbid anyone but pixar and dreamworks make a a cgi film. Fucking critics.

  • March 24, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    The film wasn't without it's flaws, but...

    by JusticeSabre was a damn good adaptation of the franchise that showed respect to not only the 80s cartoon fans (the majority of the fanbase) but the old comics and the newer material. THIS is how you adapt. MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.

  • March 24, 2007, 12:56 p.m. CST

    No one gives a shit about the comics.

    by UMAGA

    Thank You.

  • March 24, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST


    by Raphman

    I'm sorry you weren't loved as a child.

  • March 24, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    TMNT was pretty good.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    I liked it! I still prefer the old live action, but for a CG verio it was pretty cool...worth the ticket!<BR> And I agree with the guy who said no one gives a shit about the comics. Well, maybe like 20 people, and they are all Talkbackers.

  • March 24, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST

    original creators were from UMASS Amherst

    by Jewish_Batman

    UMass Amherst - Partying harder than your school since... forever. So suck my balls.

  • March 24, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Hey, Casey Jones...why the long face?

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    Sorry, couldn't resist ;) The flick kicked ass though (thanks in no small part to usual ^_^ )

  • March 24, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST

    It was pretty fucking good...

    by crackerfarmboy

    It was not a perfect film but it was really good. Reccommended for fanboys for sure.

  • March 24, 2007, 6:20 p.m. CST

    i still remember getting the toys when i was 6...

    by jig98

    and watching the original cartoon. that was basically the only thing i really exposed myself to with the ninja turtles. yeah, sure i played the video game and watched the original live action movie here and there. and my favorites were all 4 of the turtles, shredder, baxter stockman and bebop. i may see this new completely cgi movie just because of the animation, some of those kick ass weapons and for the voice over presences of patrick stewart and chris evans. and even if the movies suck, always wear those colored bandanas.

  • March 24, 2007, 6:57 p.m. CST

    TMNT was a GOOD Reboot

    by mparke2

    I thought the movie was very good. Everyone evolved naturally. I think there were some plot holes to the whole 13 monsters and portal being in NYC bit when it was it South America. April fighting makes sense, but they should have addressed it more. Maybe have her just say "Splinter has been training me." I think the next one would be great. Maybe we'll eventually see Karai as Shredder or even Raph (as seen in TMNT vol. 3).

  • March 24, 2007, 7:18 p.m. CST

    animation moving forward

    by kafka07

    I haven't seen TMNT yet but will take my little cousin soon. It sounds like the story and character development is lacking, but overall sounds like a good effort and an exciting trend in animation. I remember wishing they did this kind of CGI treatment to the Fantastic Four instead of making it live-action. But I think someday we will see CGI treatements like this done to all kinds of familiar characters. Hollywood would be stupid not to. Sounds like TMNT is flawed, but those are just the growing pains of this genre.

  • March 24, 2007, 7:20 p.m. CST

    gonna make approx. 27 mil this wknd...

    by Frank Duckett

    check fuckin Boxofficemojo if ya don't believe me!

  • March 24, 2007, 7:54 p.m. CST


    by ThrowawayVote

    The title abbreviation was my least favorite part of the movie too (besides the unneccesary prologue). I went in expecting a nice nostalgia trip and was surprised by how good the movie actually was overall. Loved the development between Leo and Raph. Sucked how Donatello was relegated to the occasional Velma one-liner. Sucked even more that April went all Lara Croft at the end and Patrick Stewart looked like Mr. Incredible. With all that immortality no wonder he ends up commanding the Enterprise.

  • March 24, 2007, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah...

    by ThrowawayVote sister LOVED the NKOTB until her cassette tapes popped, even after the name change.

  • March 24, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST

    just saw it

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    now i KNOW that capone didnt even see the damn film. reboot? sure. must be why they have the original shredder helmet, the TGRI ooze cannister and the sceptar and samurai armor in the closet. yeah TMNT 1,2 & 3 NNNEEEEEEVVVEEERRR happened. it was all a dream. anyways, my disgust for Capones review aside, i have to say i really enjoyed the film. the animation was incredibley beautiful most of the time and the dynamics of the four turtles worked great. i was really pleased that they continued to work on the feud between raph and leo. like someone said before, it had a great mix of the comics, the cartoons, and films. i still hold the first in the highest regar because watching it now its appearant that it was made by someone that truely loved the property. anyways, it was exactly what i expected and cant wait for the sequel...bring it on

  • March 24, 2007, 8:34 p.m. CST


    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    ok...i just read ur post and had to comment. <P> they did away with april being a reporter in the new Cartoons. and as for the burning question, "when was her love interest that other human?" well i can only suppose youre refering to Casey Jones, her BF since the 1st film and long into the comics as well as the new cartoons... not to mention they raised casey's daughter together. and i guess you also didnt notice he had a hockey bag full of a lot of weapons at the end...not just a baseball bat. christ people like you and your "friend" are why filmakers think they have to dumb everything down. to call the film mediocre is foolish since your knowledge of the TMNT franchise seems "mediocre" at best.

  • March 24, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    You will hate Splinter's voice.

    by thebearovingian

    I sure did. You'll probably laugh b/c he sounds like a friggin drunk. But at other parts of the movie he sounds like an Italian immigrant (hard to explain). Didn't really dig the monster storyline b/c it felt out of place from the TMNT universe. Overall, it had some great moments and I liked it enough to recommend it.

  • March 24, 2007, 10:07 p.m. CST


    by ELGordo

    I noticed in the trailer that nothing had changed or had been updated since the crappy ass live action films and shitty cartoons were made. Who the fuck says cowabunga dude these days. Couln't they at least tried to make it more contemporary in that sense?

  • March 25, 2007, 3:44 a.m. CST

    "And rather than focus...

    by Tookess

    ...on a potentially awesome story about an army of monsters set loose on an unsuspecting world, the film spends more time with the inner conflicts in the group." Capone? That is *exactly* why this movie ROCKED!