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BATTLESTAR GALACTICA’s 4th Season Grows From 13 to 22 Episodes!! And The Straight-To-DVD Movie Is Coming This Fall!!

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"Battlestar Galactica's" fourth season, which officially launches in early 2008, has grown from 13 to 22 episodes. SciFi will formally announce as much Thursday. From
The order will include a special two-hour "Battlestar" event to air during the fourth quarter of 2007 on Sci Fi, and will also be released on DVD.
The two-hour "event" is said to deal with the Battlestar Pegasus shortly after the start of Cylon War II. Season three concludes Sunday. Read more of this here.

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  • March 21, 2007, 8:17 p.m. CST


    by mrfan

    13 to 22.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:19 p.m. CST

    I really like this show.

    by mrfan

    I had no problem with only 13 episodes planned for season four. Maybe with 22 episodes they can get questions answered.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:20 p.m. CST


    by DS9Sisko

    In a strange way, I actually hope this is the final season (and it likely is the last). A full season would be a great way to wind up this remarkable achievement, fanboy whining about this and that be damned.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Frak Yah!

    by CaptainWalker

    Have you ever seen some one jump BACK from the shark? Well Sundays episode proved that to be possible. They were coasting through most of this season, and while always entertaining, it wasn't the battlestar we grew to know and worship. But I this last episode was the show I've been creaming myself for.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:34 p.m. CST


    by pax256

    I wanted that and its a good indication a 5th season is in the offing. Seems there has been very little change in overall ratings. Oh and a couple more dvd flicks...

  • March 21, 2007, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Great News

    by cryptmagic

    Great news, I am so happy. The last three episodes have been great.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:47 p.m. CST


    by covenant

    This made my frakkin' day! Of course, they could be expanding the number of episodes in order to allow Moore and Co. to finish properly; i.e. no plans for a 5th season. Let's hope ratings improve and we see another season. SO SAY WE ALL!

  • March 21, 2007, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Dunno about next seson but this one...

    by Christopher3

    Would have been better with only 13 episodes. There was A LOT of filler in the second half of this season.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Stand by FTL!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Do you hear that?! Frakkin'-a right you do!!!<P>Great news. Encouraging news even. I hope another 22 episode season stays focused. If they plan for it to be the final season, so much the better - it makes even more sense. And I can't wait for the season 3 finale. So say we all, motherscratchers.<P>JUMP!

  • March 21, 2007, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Means MORE...

    by chromedome

    ...Grace Park<p>That is enough to warrant joy over this news!<p>The rest is Fringe Benefits.<p>Seriously, though, this is good news-- was a little twitchy about waiting until 08 for 13 episodes. Now we got a movie in the fall, and a full set of episodes for potentially the series-concluding season.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:54 p.m. CST

    FRACK YEAH! x infinity...

    by Pennsy

    Hoo, baby. :D :D

  • March 21, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST

    I can't read talkbacks anymore until next week ...

    by Shan

    Somehow for once I've been able to avoid *absolute* spoilers, in this case, as to the identity of The Final Five - though I have my high index of suspicion. I have to say that the finale coming up has managed to do something the show hasn't quite managed for me since the end of Season 1, I am desperate to see the final episode of Season 3. I hope they keep it up. This could be more good news. Hopefully they'll make it to Season 5 and/or end it on their own terms/pace.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:55 p.m. CST

    BSG's one-offs = still better than 90% of other series

    by Pennsy


  • March 21, 2007, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Great Great Great

    by SanityKaos

    SciFi must realise that this is a show that may very well be more popular years and years after it's end...Now SciFi needs to grow an even bigger brain and aquire the rights to "Firefly" and bring it to the network (For the record I can't stand "Firefly", but everyone else seemed to like it) The ratings would skyrocket....Back to Galactica...Can't wait for the movie...One of the things I miss about the miniseries was that it was much longer than 45 minutes

  • March 21, 2007, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Shan, word.

    by Pennsy

    I'm in the same boat. No offence to Herc, but I'm temporarily breaking my AICN BSG talkback boycott. I'll wait until Monday to see everything that was written beforehand. :)

  • March 21, 2007, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I hoipe they use their summer well

    by jccalhoun

    I hope that Moore takes some time to really look at what worked and what didn't this season. There have been some great episodes and some horrible ones. As much as I hate to see people lose jobs, maybe some heads need to roll to get things straightened out.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST

    So that will be the last season then?...

    by DanielKurland

    Sci-Fi stated about a month ago that if the order is extended from 13 to 22 it will be for them to wrap up the entire series.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Great News Unless...

    by bobbyjoe

    This is great news unless Michael Ausiello over at is correct reporting a week or so ago on behind the scenes goings-on at Sci Fi that if the show was picked up for more episodes past 13, then those back 9 would be the final episodes of the series. Hope that's not true. (Sci Fi has always been sneaky about advertising "great" news, like cheering that "Farscape" was renewed for two more seasons (and then later claiming those "two" seasons were 11 episodes apiece, unlike every other season of "Farscape" which had 22).) Be optimistic, but watch your back.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Hell, Yes!!!

    by Tai_Pan

    Suck it, haters.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:13 p.m. CST


    by Frank Black

    My wife and I were so bummed! This show is so addictive! SciFi shouldn't care if anyone watches it. In fact, don't air it and just release it the seasons straight to DVD. The show should have 5 full seasons.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:13 p.m. CST


    by FakePlasticGuava

    see subject.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:25 p.m. CST

    hearing this news and seeing 300 all in same night...

    by RaveX

    ...makes me a happy man. <p> oh, and about all the bitching about filler episodes that's about to start (or has it started already? haven't read current talkback yet.), I have only 1 thing to say: <p> shut the frack up!

  • March 21, 2007, 9:43 p.m. CST

    so it won't be as tight as it may have been, but...

    by Amy Chasing

    I still let out a "WOOOHOOO!!!" when I read this. And I'm not usually one for multiple punctuation when I talk so that's saying something. <P> Yes, BSG is the flagship sci-fi show on TV at the moment. No other show really comes close. Stargate, Doctor Who, Torchwood - they're alright (sometimes down right funny , and Doctor Who does have its moments of *that's-bloody-perfect*) but there's nothing else on! <P> I feel BSG somewhat lost its way over the course of season 3, but as long as the questions are answered in a credible fashion then I can chalk it up as "creative license". But this radio music on currently that some of the crew are hearing had better not be the only indicator that they're Cylons or something. A much more intricate and interesting explanation is required and deserved. I mean, I hear tunes in my head all the time, sometimes clear as any song I play on the stereo. That doesn't make me a toaster, just someone who really needs to get to more concerts.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Good news

    by NoHubris

    With a fourth season, there is hope for a "Final Five" (5th season) for BSG.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Bad news

    by PVIII

    cut those shitty episodes. and ex-buffy writers.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:58 p.m. CST

    This could be bad news


    With the ratings tanking these final 9 episodes may be used to wrap up the series. I hope not.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Old time

    by hatramroany

    Please go back to Friday nights, PLEASE.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:08 p.m. CST

    i'm cool with it...

    by Charlie Murphy

    but if veronica doesn't get renewed, i will be pissed.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST


    by Vicconius

    A TV legend died you monkeys! Rest in peace, Calvert!

  • March 21, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST


    by veritasses

    The world needs more BSG. I'm not too happy about having to wait until 2008 though.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:15 p.m. CST

    22 episodes or 20?

    by agentf1

    The last two seasons of Battlestar Galactica have been 20 episodes each (if you count the season 3 two hour premiere as 2 episodes which some people do and some people don't). Why would they make 22 for Season 4? If they announce 20, I'd say that makes more sense and there's still a good chance of a Season 5. If they do up the order from 13 to 22, I'd be VERY SUSPICIOUS like other people have said on this thread, that this would signify the end of the series. (Granted if the Direct to DVD does GANG BUSTERS they could still change their mind)

  • March 21, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST


    by Squashua

    Adama is a Cylon.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:42 p.m. CST

    it would have been better

    by punto

    if they left it at 13 episodes, but gave them the budget for 22. then it'd be like cable, without so many shitty filler episodes. <p> also a movie about pegasus means hot admiral chick (what was her name? it's all I remember about the pegasus). can't wait

  • March 21, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    20 regular episodes + 2 "episodes" for movie

    by TheSecondQuest

    That 22 number includes the 2 hours/episodes for the DVD movie.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:50 p.m. CST


    by GregoryHarbin

    I actually cheered when I read this news.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:51 p.m. CST

    OF COURSE!!!

    by closeencounter

    No one can deny that this is one of the best TV shows of anytime, any channel, of any genre!!!! So Say We All!!!!!

  • March 21, 2007, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Woo Hoo!

    by bb6634

    Thank the Gods!

  • March 21, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Best made-in-Vancouver show...

    by theseventhshore

    ...since the GOOD seasons of X-Files. You know it's true :P

  • March 21, 2007, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Season 3

    by Bob of the Shire

    The first four episodes were amazing. Like "possibly the best episodes of any show ever" amazing. For the rest of the season though, the show has been on a decline, with the occasional spike in the quality, I think it hit rock bottom with the terrible mid-season finale. Last Sunday's episode was a return to form though and I am super pumped for the season finale. The show is getting back on track, so I'm all for Season 4. Here's hoping it rocks out with its cock out.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Eat me, Metalwater!

    by oisin5199

    So say we all.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:27 p.m. CST

    RE: Metalwater

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Where did he go? Did he get banned?

  • March 21, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    do not speak his name

    by chromedome

    or he will appear!<p>jeez, i gotta teach you guys THAT?<p>;-)

  • March 21, 2007, 11:36 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Nah, he's not the one we should worry about appearing. Although the one I'm thinking of may no longer have the ability to do so. Heh. ;^)

  • March 22, 2007, 12:06 a.m. CST

    This is great news!

    by My Ass Smells

    Fuck you haters of this season. It's been great!

  • March 22, 2007, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Four Seasons

    by SanityKaos

    What if it ended after four seasons (finding Earth and all)...And then have it come back as a movie twice a year....The quality wouldn't be compromised and the budget would be much lower than a full series...Everyone's happy

  • March 22, 2007, 12:14 a.m. CST

    I would never Fuck a Smelly ASS

    by WASPFAN

    The season really did suck ass

  • March 22, 2007, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one that remembers

    by slder78

    that they said if they were going to do more than 13 eps next season, it would be to WRAP UP the series? I'm not sure I like this.

  • March 22, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Good news

    by ewokstew

    they're admittedly in a bit of a lull right now but that happens to all shows. Once they get their second wind it'll be even better than before. Watch.

  • March 22, 2007, 12:46 a.m. CST

    im indifferent

    by Mr_X

    really this season as a whole has sucked. i love BSG really i do. the first season was virtually perfect. but this season dispite some excellent epsiodes ( yes epsiode 4 with the ftl atomsphere jump was probably the best scene ive ever seen in sci fi) was getting boring. way too many filler episodes that were just tiresome. I hope ron has noted what has worked and what hasnt and ramps it up for season 4. it needs to be done to keep the audience. make sure the scripts are perfect over this break, and please don't let caprica turn into craprica.

  • March 22, 2007, 12:48 a.m. CST


    by Mr_X

    and sci-fi if you really want a new series that people will watch... make the lost room into a series. it was brilliant!

  • March 22, 2007, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Worst News I've Heard All Day

    by Professor Krapp

    And to put that in perspective, my father died this morning.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Yeah I heard that if the order got expanded

    by Novaman5000

    It would mean the end of the series, and those new 9 eps would be used to wrap everything up. It's kind of bittersweet, but I'd prefer them end the series on a high note than just crap out in a few years.

  • March 22, 2007, 2:01 a.m. CST


    by arrangedletters

    Seriously now we get more episodes like Helo and the Mad Surgeon, or Black Market, or Chief and the Coal Miners. Don't do these crappy filler episodes anymore.

  • March 22, 2007, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Who cares if it's the last season?

    by King Sweyn Forkbeard

    Why not end things on a high rather than drag it out for the sake of doing so? Learn from us Limeys. Better to have just four seasons of top, top quality than four seasons of quality and another two or three of shit to drag them down.

  • March 22, 2007, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Word has it that Season 4 will now be BSG last.

    by The Outlander

    I've heard from two sources that a 22 episode pickup would mean that Sci-Fi has chosen to finish of the series. The extra nine episodes will be used to conclude the series.

  • March 22, 2007, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Let us not forget what too many eps did for Season2

    by Maniaq


  • March 22, 2007, 3:10 a.m. CST

    More than likely there will be a 5th season...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Why? Because after Season 4, the show will have 79 episode hours (counting the miniseries as 4 episodes). They will then need 21 more episode to have 100 episodes. 100 is the magic number for syndication. So I'm betting they will lurch towards a 5th season in order to wrap things up into a neat, tidy syndication package.

  • March 22, 2007, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Motherfucking YES!

    by Darth_Gonz

    Thano you, thank you, thank you, Sci-Fi Channel!

  • March 22, 2007, 3:40 a.m. CST

    last series?

    by ian216a

    I was thinking along the lines of Prof.Pop-Cult as well. Wondering if Sci-Fi were going for the big 100. Makes sense as they own the show as I'm sure it will be a money-spinner on syndication for years. Having said that, if what everyone thinks is going to happen on Sunday happens on Sunday, how much of the story is left to tell? Now I have to disagree (amiably) with what seems to be the consensus above, that the series has problems with the filler episodes. I've always found them worthwhile character pieces that help to make the audience really care about what happens when the shit actually does go down, one of the shows strengths. But different strokes I suppose. Just happy to have confirmation of any extra episodes than had been previously announced. 'Nuff said.

  • March 22, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Lick my balls you GINO cunts !

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Hooorah !

  • March 22, 2007, 4:04 a.m. CST


    by Wldmk

    Even if it'll be the last season of the show, good for there to be a few more episodes and better to go out while on top rather than drag beyond tolerance, at the expense of fans and all involved, quality-wise. So say we all, and the constant haters, like with any other show, are more than welcome to tune the frak out to something else, whatever it may be...

  • March 22, 2007, 4:49 a.m. CST

    isn't this the Sci-Fi channels biggest rated show?

    by newc0253

    i live in the UK where the Sci Fi channel is a pale imitation of its US cousin: it gets Heroes but BSG is run on Sky. i have a hard time believing that the ratings for this show are so bad that they'd can it after 4 seasons. what's the longest running show on the US Sci Fi channel anyway?

  • March 22, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST


    by raw_bean

    They dumped Farscape while it was their highest rated show. Picking up Stargate was gonna be cheaper for them, with the slightly higher ratings. So after years of boasting about how great the first ever SciFi funded original programme was, they unceremoniously dumped it in the gutter, wrangling their way out of the two season order they'd put in a season previous, and according to one talkbacker up above (I wasn't aware of this one) tried to claim the 22 episodes of season 4 were two 11 episode seasons.<p>Be great to see the Pegasus and foxy Michelle Forbes as Admiral Cain again in the autumn. And if a single, 22 episode season means they can trim the filler and build up to a groovy finale I'll forgive them for the latter half of season 3 and be very happy.<p>ian216a, I don't have a problem with the occasional character-based episode and a brief break from the main plot, but they really need to spread stuff like that around. Seriously, since the Eye of Jupiter stuff (that wasn't overly spectacular anyway), how long did we go without ANYthing of note happening, or even seeing any Cylons (bar the skin-jobs that live on Galactica, or in peoples heads)?

  • March 22, 2007, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Since they'll have plenty of filler episodes now

    by Itchy

    how about a few that explore that obvious and intense sexual tension between Callie and Boomer ? Better than another Black Market.

  • March 22, 2007, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Long wait

    by Dazzler69

    No season 4 til next year now? That sucks.

  • March 22, 2007, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Long Wait

    by NoHubris

    Agreed. The long wait is an issue and certainly problematic from a fan perspective (sponsor too, possibly).<P>Herc reported before that David Eick is working on BIONIC WOMAN for NBC so that could be one reason. If so, TPTB should just let RD Moore run with it and have something on the air by the fall.

  • March 22, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Mr_X : FTL Atmo jump

    by shermanium65

    "...probably the best scene ive ever seen in sci fi" I totally agree! Mind-bogglingly amazing. I describe it to people as "by far the coolest thing I've ever seen anywhere, in film or TV or anywhere else"

  • March 22, 2007, 7:59 a.m. CST


    by Childe Roland

    ...not sure if I can take this as good news. I was actually looking forward to a leaner, more focused season. Seemed like the show had grown a bit of fat it could've stood to trim. Guess I'll wait and see, though.

  • March 22, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Great news but about those ex-Buffy Writers

    by Silver_Joo

    They have upset the balance of Galactica this season, and pretty much buried 24. They should stick to... Buffy. Joss has a comic they can all go write -- leave our beloved shows alone!

  • March 22, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST


    by ManosTHOF

    So say we all.

  • March 22, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by onyh007


  • March 22, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Just Keep The Quality high is each of the 22 Episodes

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    That is my hope.

  • March 22, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Stupid Fuckin' Move

    by _Maltheus_

    The 13 episode run is the only thing that gave me hope for next season. This show simply cannot handle a 22 ep run as much as we would like it. Walk before you can run.

  • March 22, 2007, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Can't Wait

    by landocolt45

    I wanna see Admiral Caine kill some bitches!!!!

  • March 22, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I'll be happy if the episodes are good and the show...

    by beastie

    ... gets to end properly. Whether it needs 1 more season or 8 more seasons, I want it to wrap up well. If the best way to do that is end with Season 4, so be it. But if the creators of the show need more seasons, then I want mores seasons too.

  • March 22, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    "This show simply cannot handle a 22 ep run"?

    by newc0253

    walk before you can run? the show's been on air now for 3 seasons, 2 of which were successful 20 episode runs. if it can't handle a 22 episode run now, when can it? on its tenth anniversary?? like Lost, Galactica is one of those shows that's so good that anytime you have a run of episodes that are less than 5 stars, every fat nerd sitting in his mom's basement starts writing angry posts about the show's decline.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Presumbably it will get a fifth season because...

    by David Frames

    They'll want to break the 100 episode barrier to guarantee a lifetime in syndication, er, surely? Isn't that the arbitary limit these days? Great news though - this is the best sci-fi show in years.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Buffy writers

    by oisin5199

    Yeah, that ONE Buffy writer (Jane Espenson), who co-wrote TWO episodes, one of which was one of the best this season. Yeah, they sure upset that balance, Silver Joo. Sheesh, you sound like Kai. Get your facts straight.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Season 3 aka when you hire ex-Buffy & ex-Voyager hacks

    by performingmonkey

    Oh, and Whedon can go suck a fuck. So can Kevin Smith, the cunt.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Eat me Metalwater!

    by Billyeveryteen

    So say we all!!

  • March 22, 2007, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Black Market

    by Tai_Pan

    was a great episode. I dunno why it gets so much hate.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:03 p.m. CST

    I don't think you need 100 episodes anymore

    by jccalhoun

    Farscape was syndicated for a while and it only had 89. I would bet that with dvds they wouldn't bother with syndication any way. SciFi can always rerun it into the ground if they want.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:08 p.m. CST

    The first season was a half season...

    by _Maltheus_

    ...and that was everybody's favorite. The second season had a lot of crap in it's second half. This third season has proven they've simply run out of ideas. I don't think it'll ever be able to handle a full run. When it's good, it's still good but most of this season has sucked real bad. It was a toss up between BSG and Lost for the winner for worst declining show. But the last two Lost's have been really good, leaving BSG with what, "Exodus II" and a small smattering or decent scenes spread among the rest? The show will not be renewed beyond this next season if they go with the full 22. It no longer has any punch anymore. Hell, Admr. Adama and Baltar are the only characters worth watching ever since they hit the reset button on Tigh.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by Smashing

    This just cheered my miserable day right up.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    BSG whiners are as feckless & stupid as Lost whiners:

    by newc0253

    any episode that doesn't contain a major plot development and they instantly complain: "it's run out of ideas", "boring", "filler-schmiller gunk", etc. Look, if you hate character-development so much, why don't you follow a show that's more your level, like, say, Dancing with Stars? i don't watch it but - from what i understand - every week there's always some big development every week. exciting, huh?

  • March 22, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    BSG: long term quality show

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    As evidenced by Lost and other shows, it is one thing to have a great first season, but the true challenge is to string together solid 2nd and 3rd seasons. BSG, for all its perceived faults has done that. I look forward to S4.

  • March 22, 2007, 3:54 p.m. CST

    I told you

    by magnetoelectric

    Its good to be the king

  • March 22, 2007, 4:24 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with "Black Market?"

    by Tai_Pan

    I really don't get. That's one of my favorite episodes. I thought the worst of the run was "The Woman King," with "The Farm" and "A Day in the Life" being close seconds.

  • March 22, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    People still watch LOST?

    by la_sith

    People still watch LOST?

  • March 22, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Character Development would be great...

    by _Maltheus_

    <p>...if that's actually what we've been given. But it isn't. Not anything good anyway. The show jumps around, characters react, but nothing really changes. And Starbuck dying doesn't count as change, cause that was the shittiest episode of the series. Moore pulled a Jadzia Dax on her ass, and we all know that was the most shameful momement of DS9's run. The love triangle crap was hated by all. Tigh was developed real nicely at first. Thought something great was gonna happen there, but no. He went off, stewed for a bit, then Adama gave him his job back cause he was lonely for his only friend.</p> <p>You people need to come up with a new name for use "haters." Cause you "lovers" are the only ones spewing hate here for anyone who doesn't agree with you. Parents don't hate their children for not letting them do whatever the fuck they want. They care and want the best for them. Criticism is not hate. Intolerance is, and that seems to be the domain of the lovers.</p>

  • March 22, 2007, 5:22 p.m. CST


    by NudeandAroused

    Your points are taken to a point. I think "Maelstorm" was one of thebetter shows of the series. It explains a lot of her reactions and actions when it comes to life and death. Adam's only friend on the show is Tigh. So his support of Tigh makes sense. I will agree with you, the first five odf season 3 certainly gave the impression that they were going somewhere with Tigh. They did not until last Sunday. The love triangle was silly, you are right. Hopefully that will not come up again. I think that a 13 epsiode season would be very strong for this show. I don't mind 22, I think the 13 "greatest hits" of the 22, would work better.

  • March 22, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Excellent, excellent news.

    by Asaraiel

    Excellent, excellent news.

  • March 22, 2007, 6:24 p.m. CST

    CHUD has some interesting tidbits here...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius<P>Sounds good.

  • March 22, 2007, 6:25 p.m. CST

    "Sounds good."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I hate that formatting glitch.

  • March 22, 2007, 7:07 p.m. CST

    ... and then 12 episodes for season 5 to wrap it up.

    by riskebiz

    Ron Moore has said on his podcasts that he needs 5 seasons to tell the story. That would best. This is good news that it 12 to 22 episodes for season 4. I hope they haven't given Moore an edict to wrap it up in 4 by going going to 22 episodes. Season 5 is the max and he should get it to tell his story.

  • March 22, 2007, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Stargate always got less than BSG's current ratings?

    by riskebiz

    Heck, and Stargate was on for 10 friggin' seasons for some unknown reason. Crap show and was the longest running show on Sci-Fi.

  • March 22, 2007, 7:31 p.m. CST

    "Criticism is not hate"

    by newc0253

    yeah, but bored whining isn't criticism, at least not intelligent criticism. c.f. the apparent hate for episodes like 'black market' which actually tell you something interesting about apollo's background. BSG whiners are so pathetically impatient for action and plot development, it's difficult to avoid the conclusion that they're off their ritalin. every show has some episodes that are stronger than others, but any time BSG deviates even the slightest from fanboy expectations, or does something even a little different, there's a shitstorm of protests about how the show is 'drifting'. not every BSG episode is flawless, and some are more flawed than others, but to listen to half the whiners on these talkbacks, you'd think that the writers had made greedo shoot first. the "criticisms" are in such broad terms (e.g. "most of season 3 sucked") that it's impossible to take them seriously. it's one thing to tolerate sincere criticism, another to tolerate patent fucking stupidity...

  • March 22, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Season 3 is the Best

    by frodomelad

    Gotta Love that "Eye of Jupiter". Really showed where the show is going? Not really a space battle show, but a show about spirituality and eventually we will discover -- time travel.

  • March 22, 2007, 8:17 p.m. CST

    so now we'll get 18 filler episodes instead of 9

    by Serious Black

    When this show moves the story along it's great. But they are already struggling to put together 13 episodes. Most episodes that I've seen this season have nothing to do with anything. Did I really need to see the episode where workers go on strike? no. Did I need to see the religious fanatics with the monkeypox or whatever the hell they had. No. 18 more episodes of crap like that and they will have lost me for good.

  • March 22, 2007, 8:52 p.m. CST

    "Filler Episodes" are what make good SciFi

    by Itchy

    Great. ST:TNG's "filler" episodes were some of the best - by far. The filler gives you a chance to develop characters, and establish what "life" on board the ship is like. The problem with Black Market wasn't that it was filler, it was that it was BAD filler. It provided a chance to develop Lee as a character, but all it did was show a side of Lee that is totally contrary to the whiny, pathetic, deceptive piece of crap he clearly is. Plus it just wasn't cool to make the only black dude in the fleet a hard-ass crime boss that got whacked inside of 60 minutes.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Oh Sure, Blame the Buffy Writers

    by Professor Krapp

    When this show has been a steaming corn-studded piece of shit for a long time.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Frak Me! Still The Best Show On Television!

    by Real Deal

    This is wonderful news! I really don't care what the moron whinners have to say about it!

  • March 23, 2007, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Did i remember this correctly.....

    by delatao

    wasn't there some sort of announcement about the dvd movie heralding the return of a favorite character? so the movies all about the return of starbuck right? seems like everybody stopped mentioning that or did i make it up in my head?

  • March 23, 2007, 4 a.m. CST


    by Shan

    Yes, it's just too dicey looking at anything now. I didn't read the comments here, just posted (like I'm doing now). Once in a totally unrelated talkback, someone mentioned a major LOST character bought it before I saw the episode. Then I got bored with the show and ended up never seeing that episode to this day but my point still stands. I watched the episode preview on the official site and at the end that voice said "It's true, we're Cylons" and I thought *@$!, that's [character x] but the more I listed to it, the more I thought there's a chance it was [character y]. I then stopped listing because I realised I was happy not to have certainty again until I see the episode.

  • March 23, 2007, 4:02 a.m. CST

    OK, well to clarify

    by Shan

    OK, well obviously, I read your post which you put my name in the subject line.

  • March 23, 2007, 5:58 a.m. CST

    hope its last season

    by 1st and only

    its rare you get a sci fi show end on its own terms.i love this show but fuck viewing figures(even if season 4 goes thru the roof)end properly and with dignity.

  • March 23, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST


    by WASPFAN

    Do you really think he would have been so stupid as to say what he did in court? They completely stole that from the nicholson/cruise move a few good men.... Tigh used to come off much smarter than they have made him -- a really stupid drunk.... Also Admama and Rosalyn seem different to me as well, almost preaching a dictatorship - they are not the same as they once were either and I feel they are loosing the goodness in their char -- Season 1 was decent - 2 was better I felt even though there were filler episodes - and 3 was horseshit -- they find the eye of jupiter and it so happens the planet blows up -- something that would happen once in 5 billion years -- the probababilty of that is so common --

  • March 23, 2007, 6:58 a.m. CST

    This is great fraking news!!!!

    by Currencyboy

    So say we all!

  • March 23, 2007, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Wow, I come back to the states...

    by Abin Sur

    ...and I get this outstanding news! Life is good. Now if Directv will hurry the frak up and turn on their new satellite I might get to see next season in high-def!

  • March 23, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Oh, and what's Metalwater's new screen name?

    by Abin Sur

    Haven't seen him since we heard about the initial 13-ep order...come out and play!

  • March 23, 2007, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Michelle Forbes

    by jtp8000

    Hope they have her signed up as Cain and not some bimbo. But the way she drops out of award winning shows they might have a problem getting her back

  • March 23, 2007, 12:22 p.m. CST

    from Matt Roush of 'TV Guide'

    by oisin5199

    "the episode with the labor strike was first-rate Galactica, with strong political and social observations about the hard life aboard this fleet." Thanks, Jane Espenson!

  • March 23, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Apollo As the Moral Compass

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    I understand that he broke things off with his pregnant GF. However, throughout the show, it is he, not Roslin, or Adama, that seems to be the moral center amongst the major players. Roslin and Adama essentially want to hold a kangaroo court thinking that no one will be the wiser. Lee is challenging this sentiment by taking the fight to them. Cancer or not, Roslin seems to oscillate between democracy and tyranny whenever it suits her. And I think that more characters are seeing that in her. Heck, just look at Helo's face after learning that Roslin used Hera and then sought to hid her existence. Classic moment...

  • March 23, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST


    by Tai_Pan

    Tigh was drunk, that's why he was saying things that he would not have otherwise admitted to.

  • March 23, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Frak yeah!

    by Ellipsian

    I refuse to read any comments since I haven't seen the last two episodes yet, but it's great news all around.

  • March 23, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST


    by ManosTHOF

    The movie is about Admiral Cain and the Pegasus, a prequel Pearl Harbour attack-like scenario.

  • March 23, 2007, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Helo, not Apollo, is the moral compass...

    by Epsilon

    Come on, Helo stayed on Caprica so another person could get aboard the rescue raptor after the cylons attacked. He was the one who has championed the cause of "good" cylons, and how it would be wrong to wipe them out completely. He's the one who stuck up for the Sagittarons. Lee's decisions are usually out of resentment for his father or wanting to bone Starbuck.

  • March 23, 2007, 7:41 p.m. CST

    some semi-spoilery stuff at sitrep.....

    by chromedome

  • March 23, 2007, 8:28 p.m. CST


    by delatao

    this has all happened before and it will all happen again. mebbe starbuck time travels?

  • March 23, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Michelle Forbes!!!

    by Russman

    YES!!! She's gotta be in this, right?

  • March 24, 2007, 8:01 a.m. CST

    yeah, but Helo was on Caprica for all of season 1

    by newc0253

    and a good part of season 2. Apollo was the moral centre on board Galactica for this time. i find it hard to understand the hate for 'Black Market': sure, it didn't contain any super-major revelations but it helped establish a lot more of Apollo's character, his relationship with Dualla, not to mention the surprising fact that 50,000 people on a fleet apparently contains a disturbing number of paedophiles. let's not forget that 'Black Market' also got rid of Billy, who was always the weakest fucking character on BSG.

  • March 24, 2007, 8:06 a.m. CST

    besides, the real "moral compass" isn't Helo:

    by newc0253

    it's Helo's dick. his decisions in seasons 1 & 2 are guided by his pecker, not his moral universalism. it's really only in season 3 that you see Helo speak up for Cylons generally, rather than Boomer/Athena in particular (although the thought of killing all the other Boomers in the universe probably didn't sit well either - mmm, sexy naked Boomers).

  • March 24, 2007, 8:57 a.m. CST

    this is good news

    by Jookie_the_uncola

    stop the hating, it is the best show on sci-fi right now.

  • March 24, 2007, 2:42 p.m. CST

    new RDM interview about dvd and Season 4

    by chromedome

    Summary: <p>full interview: <p>He mentions the movie/dvd will be set on Pegasus, pre-season 3, but will "pay off in season 4<p>He also mentions that he is considering whether or not to end the series in season 4, rather than risk getting cancelled before they could finish the story in a 5th season.

  • March 24, 2007, 3 p.m. CST

    RDM also says...

    by chromedome

    That the movie/dvd in the fall is Pegasus based, and that the "Caprica" spin off is unrelated--still in development, not picked up. "Caprica" could be piloted as another movie (like the mini).<p>But the Pegasus based movie (or "extra episodes") is pre-season 3, and will have certain events that ultimately pay-off in season 4.<p>He also says that the plan is to release the dvd almost simultaneously with the broadcast: as an example, if the movie is broadcast on a Friday, the dvd could then be available on the following Monday, etc.

  • March 25, 2007, 12:06 a.m. CST


    by ManosTHOF

    Leoben may have been speaking more generally when he said that; I tend to think he's talking about the destiny of the human race and that history has somehow repeated itself. Funny how it seems like a Matrix-like scenario to me-- a great war, few survivors, a mass exodus, resettlement. And maybe this cycle has been repeating itself? As far as Starbuck, she may be the cho-cho-chosen one, and not Baltar or D'Anna as either had once thought or hoped. Starbuck may have reached something D'Anna was trying to reach with her afterlife experiments.