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ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK more of a prequel than a remake? So says Carpenter to Suicide Girls!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Daniel Robert Epstein over at has a fantastic interview with John Carpenter, going over much of his work. They talk a little about the ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake and Carpenter drops this nugget:

Daniel Robert Epstein: I spoke with Will O'Neil who wrote one of those Snake Plissken comic books a few years ago. He had said that you, Kurt [Russell] and [producer] Debra Hill owned the character of Snake. Is that true? John Carpenter: Yes, but we share it with Canal Plus. It’s a long story, but the movie was originally made for a company called Avco Embassy. Avco Embassy was sold to Dino De Laurentiis. Dino De Laurentiis sold his share to Canal Plus. DRE: So in this remake they’re talking about... John: I don’t know that it’s a remake. I think it’s a lot about Snake before he gets to New York.

That's an interesting take, as long as they don't Anakin Snake Plissken if you know what I mean. But with Gerald Butler wearing the eye-patch, I'm sure they're going to keep Plissken the badass he needs to be. I guess now we'll find out why everybody keeps thinking Snake is dead... CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE INTERVIEW!!!

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  • March 21, 2007, 3:44 a.m. CST


    by radjac33

    Funny, I thought you were taller.

  • March 21, 2007, 3:47 a.m. CST

    damn, just make another sequel

    by SaintX99

    Kurt Russell is still alive damn it! And he could well play and older and grizzled Snake escaping the USA?

  • March 21, 2007, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Almost there, almost there...

    by WavingFlagsInSpace

    Surely it was the concept of 'Escape...' that made it so good in the first place, then the great characters were a bonus and made the film a cult classic. They're going to need something really high concept if this is to not smack of cashing in on a 'classic'.

  • March 21, 2007, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Ugh. The Suicide Girls are so fugging trendy now days.

    by vivavitalogy

    Your not different, your not punk, your emo/goth chic at best ladies. Sorry.

  • March 21, 2007, 3:59 a.m. CST

    He doesn't say that they *aint* remaking it...

    by BenBraddock

    ... just that there's a lot more pre- NY stuff. Why would they stop short at the chance of fucking up a perfectly good original movie?

  • March 21, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    Nuff Said, logging out.

  • March 21, 2007, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Oh, fuck me

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I just went from being cautiously optimistic to utterly uninterested. If this is going to be some TCM: The Beginning or Rob Zombie Halloween malarkey where we get a bunch of scenes that 'explain' a character who relies on a certain amount of mystery, I don't want to see this. I like not knowing how he lost his eye, and I like not knowing who the fuck Fresno Bob is.<p>I am interested to know who keeps suggesting these prequel ideas. Maybe it's just one guy who keeps putting his hand up in development meetings and saying: "How about we delve into the backstory for this one?" If it is, that guy is an asshole, and someone needs to have a word with him. I suggest Juggfuckler be the one to do it.

  • March 21, 2007, 4:05 a.m. CST

    So many Prequels, so little time...

    by moobit

    The first film was good, but not sure if it needs another one making...where's the origonality gone in film?

  • March 21, 2007, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Just speculation on Carpenter's part.

    by Reelheed

    Sounds like he's not in the know at all. Also how likely is it to be a prequel if they're still calling it "Escape from New York"?

  • March 21, 2007, 4:07 a.m. CST


    by jack scagnetti


  • March 21, 2007, 4:09 a.m. CST

    The Adventures of...

    by Uridium

    ...Young Snake Plissken! $10 says hs starts the film with two eyes and we get to find out how he lost his eye! Still not happy with the idea of this film, but at least its not a remake of NY.

  • March 21, 2007, 4:19 a.m. CST

    I'll wait and see.

    by RainJacket

    But if I hear the words "midichlorians" and "conceived" in the same sentence, I'm walking out of the threatre right then and there... and I'm never coming back for anything.

  • March 21, 2007, 4:24 a.m. CST

    "as they don't Anakin Snake Plissken"

    by TheNorthlander

    Quint, you've just coined a phrase.

  • March 21, 2007, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Carpenter's been dropping a lot of nuggets lately

    by BannedOnTheRun

    And people are still stepping in them. "And Shinola."

  • March 21, 2007, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Suicide Girls = porno skanks

    by Rupee88

    I guess it's cool to have piercings and tattoos and show your ugly titties...<yawn>.

  • March 21, 2007, 4:58 a.m. CST

    I'll be brief....

    by Quintus_Arrius

    ... these movies were/are/will be shite! Hail!

  • March 21, 2007, 5:02 a.m. CST


    by MaxCalifornia.

    Aaaargh, my hilarious recurring talkback gag has gone all Ourobouros and eaten itself. Anyway, enough with the prequels. You only get to do that if you're a big franchise - Star Wars, Batman, Bond. Though just for the sake of movie history, it'd be hilarious to have a prequel that was simultaneously a remake.

  • March 21, 2007, 5:11 a.m. CST

    by Spartacus Hughs


  • March 21, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST


    by datachasm


  • March 21, 2007, 5:29 a.m. CST

    but lets be serious...

    by datachasm

    so this will be about Snake, Brain, and Fresno Bob? dunno if it sounds nearly as appealing to me as Escaoe From Earth. now if John Motherfuckin' Carpenter would quit sitting around all day smoking weed, playing his Cockbox 360, and checking porn out on the internet, maybe he could get it off the ground instead of this shitcake.

  • March 21, 2007, 5:30 a.m. CST

    What makes you guys think he's gonna lose an eye?

    by Beastmanseventy

    I don't think they respect the character enough for that. Look forward to a non-post apocalyptic New York, no gayboy badguys (It'd scare off the homophobic teen boy market), no bloody action scenes (Gotta get that PG13 rating!), no racist stereotype "Injuns" gang, no pro wrestlers (Too redneck), etc, etc, etc. Eyepatches are for movies with balls, people. Snake is gonna be a cop sent in to rescue the president's daughter and instead of shootouts we'll get a bunch of scenes where he's driving fast down clean empty streets and talking on a cell phone. No grunge, no blood, no eyepatch. Cell phone shouting matches are the new shootout and carchase.

  • March 21, 2007, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Damn you MCMLXXVI

    by Quintus_Arrius


  • March 21, 2007, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Have you ever notice how

    by Black Satin 2

    Have you ever notice how important it is for these 'fools' to explain every single thing that goes on with a character? Snake Plissken's eyepatch or how he was the All-American boy before something went wrong that changed all that. That said everything about that character and nearly nothing. No one knows and I wish to God they'd leave it at that. That's what really peeves Russell off. I read his interview with EW just this morning and he'd like the character to be American. Why not? Isn't Bond British.

  • March 21, 2007, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Snake owns himself...a little?

    by longevitymonk

    I say we all show up at the Grindhouse premiere in austin with eye patches..when Kurt Russell appears we'll jump out of our soggy cardboard boxes and beat him up untill he puts on the sunglasses and sees that this remake/prequal idea sucks without him, and that his destiny is to be in the sequal to Big Trouble in Little China.

  • March 21, 2007, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Actually prequel works for me better than remake

    by Maniaq

    Maybe it'll be Escape from Leningrad? I heard about Carpenter, Russell and Hill owning Snake from the LA movie - none of them would agree to let a sequel be made unless all three were involved...<br> <br> Can't say that really guaranteed a winning formula - Russell only just managed to scrape that movie in by staying true to the character, and it was pretty obvious there was no way in hell Escape from Earth was ever going to happen.<br> <br> I'm well over the "reboot" concept and I just don't think anyone could sell me a non-Kurt Snake in a remake, no matter how badass they tried to play it...<br> <br> I get the whole thing about explaining things that don't need to be explained but... you know... I think there's a chance a prequel could be done right, you know?<br> <br> Of course Quint is totally on the money with the Annakin sentiment - if they leave the EFNY back-story alone and just get on with telling a decent story this could work - and there's no way Kurt Russell could play a younger Snake so a recast could work too...<br> <br> Basically I think they could well have something here that looks good on paper - but that don't necessarily mean a good film will come out the other end...

  • March 21, 2007, 6:34 a.m. CST

    stupid, just plain stupid

    by just pillow talk

    I think a prequel should be made for Solo. It would be so neat-o. Oh yes, neat-o.

  • March 21, 2007, 6:49 a.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire


  • March 21, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST

    So, maybe it will be Escape from Cleveland?

    by rbatty024

    I might go along with a prequel. As people have mentioned, its at least a better idea than a remake. Although, Kurt Russel could probably take the reins in a sequel. Snake would work well as a curmudgeon.

  • March 21, 2007, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Escape from the thing in little china

    by The hoff

    You know you want it

  • March 21, 2007, 7:03 a.m. CST

    I'll stick with a EFNY comic

    by theonecalledshoe

    FTW and this remake/prequel shit. The abuse of the 80s has been carried to a full. Go do a video game or something else least that stuff is tolerable.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Escape from Hazzard County

    by Dr Gregory House

    President Bush and Karl Rove must make an emergency landing in Hazzard County, where they are taken hostage by moonshiners who don't take kindly to city folk. Snake Plisken is sent in to rescue Bush and Rove. However, Bush feels right at home and "don't need no rescuin" so he stays. The End!

  • March 21, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Escape from the pink panther

    by The hoff

    Snake punches, kicks and eventually nukes steve martin for the good of humanity

  • March 21, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST

    LA worked as comedy

    by Beastmanseventy

    It was supposed to be a satire of NY where everyone plays it real straight and doesn't even realize they're in a comedy. I thought it was a brilliant subtle parody, much like how Evil Dead 2 was a mockery of Evil Dead 1.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Why people think Snake is dead.

    by risherb

    It's just an in-joke that Carpenter was having fun with. It comes from a John Wayne movie named "Big Jake." Jake has been through so many wars and adventures that people think he must be dead by now.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Suicide Girls...

    by Kid Z

    ... Didja see them on that ep of CSI:NY? Painfully bad. That ain't different, they ain't punk... they can't act either! Someone hadda say it!

  • March 21, 2007, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Prequels are amazing!

    by Spandau Belly

    They take what was covered in exposition in a much better movie and inflate it out to a feature-length bloated mess with no surprises and poor pacing.<br><br>I also want to send out some made props to the new genre of PREMAQUEL! Thank you producers of TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, without you we would not have ever known that a movie that was successful on its own not only needs to be remade, but that the characters have to be further explained in another full length movie.<br><br>You prequel guys are great! I can't wait for the prequel to MAN ON FIRE that shows Denzel as a drunken reprobate who just keeps mumbling at a bar "if only I could find some sort bond with a child, that would give me reason to live". The rest of the script can be the same as Mickey Rourke's BARFLY.<br><br>Keep the prequels coming! I'm not dead yet you bastards! Hit me again! C'mon! MORE PREQUELS! I'M READY TO GO!

  • March 21, 2007, 7:33 a.m. CST

    How about Batman Begins Begins?

    by Beastmanseventy

    We could see an angsty teenage Bruce Wayne listening to Nirvana and telling everyone to fuck off and calling Alfred a fag.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST


    by Boromir187

    If you read the interview, it sounds like Carpenter is exerting himself more than on the other three remakes. He had pretty much nothing to do with the AOP13 and Halloween remakes and The Fog redo was Debra Hill's baby, whose death pretty much killed any potential it had in pre-production. With this one it sounds like he is overseeing it more do to his fondness for the character. He apparently has script approval on this remake, particularly in reference to making sure that the new Snake stays true to the original character. With him actually being involved in the production (as opposed to a handful of obligatory appearances on set like with The Fog), this one might have a chance providing they get a solid director. As for the prequel stuff? I'm betting they'll just be showing the bank robbery that lands him in the NY prison. Carpenter's own film was going to open with that scene, but they cut it out because it didn't fit the rest of the tone of the film. In the scene, Snake is shown robbing the bank of ridiculous amounts of credit cards and then making an escape with his partner Bill Taylor. Upon reaching their destination, they are ambushed and Taylor is killed. I'm betting on a similar scene this time around, although maybe a bit longer to cap off the film at around 2 hours. Just a guess. All I have to say is, if this turns out well, they better have Butler signed on for at least two or more sequels. If we get a good remake out of this, then the character deserves the franchise that he never really got. If it blows, then let it die a quick death.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:40 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    I supported your lame-ass efforts for the last decade. I evenalmost enjoyed GHOSTS OF MARS. But after what you let them do with The Fog... DAMN YOU JOHN CARPENTER!<p>Now, put down the fried chicken, get ut of that dressing gown, stop smoking for maybe a second and make the sequel to BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA!!! PLEEEEEASE!<p>And we all know that Josh Holloway=Recast Snake Plissken. Gerard Butler=Snake Plissken=Nipples on John Carpenter's Flame Chair of Creative Death. It's all in the reflexes, people.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Shia LaBeouf Should play Snake's Kid

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    So say we all!

  • March 21, 2007, 7:48 a.m. CST

    eh, when was the last time...

    by biggles2_22

    ...this guy made a decent movie? I mean, with all due respect to Thing and Halloween.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Bless you, Spandau Belly

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I am inspired by your sense of humour over this nonsense. With that in mind, here are some suggestions for the Hollywood premaquel guy:<p>Die Hard 0 - This one is a kitchen sink drama, possibly directed by Mike Leigh, where John McClane squabbles with Holly about her new job.<p>Dude, Where's My Car?: The Early Years - In this one, toddler versions of Stiffler and Punk'd lose their Fisher Price tricycle, and we discover why they're such brainded assholes.<p>The Terminator: The Beginning - Following the life of a young terminator fresh off the production line as he attends termination academy and learns how to nick people's clothes and whatnot.<p>Star Wars: The Shit From Before Luke Was Born - In this one, we find out that Darth Vader was a whiny brat and the jedi were a bunch of idiot virgins.<p>That last one is a step too far, obviously. Nobody would be stupid enough to make that film.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Escape From Earth's Gravity

    by Voice O. Reason

    I'm ready to kick your ass off of the world, war hero.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:03 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Just read the interview on Suicide Girls. For fuck's sake. Yes, they're only movies... only some of the best movies of the last 40 years! For fuck's sake!<p>If you're going to give up a movie beloved by millions to be remade, does it have to be to someone as buttfucking talentless as Rupert Wainwright? Do we HAVE to have someone play Snake who has maybe less than 10% of the sheer cool of Kurt Russell? Does HALLOWEEN HAVE to be fucked over and over until it ends up in the hands of some talentless twat like Rob Zombie? Whoops, already did.<p>What next? Just, for crying out loud, in the name of all that DOES NOT SUCK, PLEEEEEASE don't remake or sequelise BIG TROUBLE!!!<p>I know John has been fucked over royally throughout his distinguished as hell career when it comes to money. But people really do love these movies, John. If you need a little cash, as least take it from someone who knows how to make a movie.<p>Who do I REALLY trust to remake a Carpenter and get the shit right?<p>ZACK SNYDER. You all know it. Now I'm going to get my truck back.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Darfur, don't even JOKE about such a thing...

    by spud mcspud

    Shia LaBeouf was the very worst thing in CONSTANTINE, and has that plucky bright-as-a-button cool kid quality that makes you want to smack the shit out of him. Maybe Roth could torture him to death in HOSTEL 3: FUCK THE MPAA. But please, don't even JOKE about that.<p>If some doofus suggests it, and has money, John Carpenter will say yes. That gives me the fear.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Do a prequel, but make it all infants in the lead roles

    by Pound Sand

    CGI the dialogue, and call it ESCAPE FROM THE POTTY SEAT.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:12 a.m. CST

    This works much better for me...

    by Childe Roland

    ...than the idea of a remake. Like I said in the last thread, that's an interesting world Plissken lives in and I'm sure he has more stories from it to tell.<p> Let Butler wear the patch and the boots for those tales, so long as his performance is a compelte homage to Kurt.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:23 a.m. CST

    So the last talkback was a complete waste of time!

    by chrth

    Not that this entire site isn't a complete waste of time ...

  • March 21, 2007, 8:37 a.m. CST


    by Spandau Belly

    Can't you people see that we're living in revolutionary times?<br><br>Old movie law used to state that if you don't see a character die, they aren't dead. Time to take that scripture to the antique shop, old man! New movie law states that unless you see a character be born and grow up they really haven't been developed.<br><br>Have you ever seen a movie and a character is wearing clothes right from the start? I hate that! I want to see them buy those clothes and the rationale behind choosing that outfit over others. Or movies were people already have a relationship full of quarks and mutual understanding? Don't fear cinema lovers, from now on we'll see all that explained!<br><br>The only problem is a prequel "Irreversible" which I can't decide if it will either take place further in the past or the future. C'mon Michael Bay, help me out with this one! I'm just an idiot finance guy and not a master of cinematic production.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:46 a.m. CST

    John Carpenter died in 1986

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Someone replaced him with a clone devoid of any talent the original had and now the jealous clone is systematically trying to destroy the real JC's legacy with crappy remakes and prequelsequels.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Everyone's just fresh out of ideas then?

    by CTU Mole

    That's bullshit. There are a million scripts out there. The fucking studios are just too pussy to do anything that doesn't have brand recognition.

  • March 21, 2007, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Suicide Girls?

    by CatoTheCensor

    So lame. If you're looking for that kind of fix, you'll thank me!

  • March 21, 2007, 8:58 a.m. CST

    The major problem with "prequels"...

    by biggles2_22 that the major protagonists fate is already determined. Kind of takes the fun outta it when you know the guy has no chance of getting offed in the final act. Personally, I think a Post-apocolyptic Pliskin would be da-bomb. Do it kinda like a Western with a Road Warrior kick. Carpenter writing. Zack directing. No Carpenter synthesized soundtrack, please.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Nikki Cline as Snake

    by Diagnostic

    or at least NC naked holding a snake. yea. <br> <br> Sorry. I am out of ideas, just like holywood.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST


    by biggles2_22

    Have Snake battling radioactive mutants in the desert. Call it "The Hills Have Eye.". There. I don't know how I do it. It's like I have a gift.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:10 a.m. CST

    It worked great for Bond and Batman!!!!

    by Mandolorian

    That's all.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Escape from Bad Prequels?

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    This could actually work, though I reserve judgment. Although, unlike the few sequels that are better than the original there's never been a superior prequel. Not that they all suck, I'm just sayin'. Two things though: No CGI. EFNY was tough and gritty. Hell, even the glider landing scene was not computerized. The technology was in its infancy back then, and they couldn't afford it. Second, get David Cronenberg to direct. I just watched A History of Violence again last night. Think of what he and Butler could do to this role together.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST

    nope, shitty idea

    by Lost Prophet

    Has anyone else seen the UK 25 year anniversary DVD which has Snake's botched robbery in the Extras? <p>That was the worst robbery sequence ever. Not cool in the slightest, I'm glad it didn't make the final cut.<p>Prequaled Snake: HAyden Uselessen- the fucker is already making a career out of anally raping cinematic idols, so why not- seeing as they don't give a fuck about any EFNY fans opinion anyway, and at least he will draw in the retard 13 year old girl market.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Does he still ride a surf board through L.A.?

    by warp11


  • March 21, 2007, 9:25 a.m. CST

    "There are a million scripts out there"

    by chrth

    Yeah, but most of them suck.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    'No Carpenter synthesized soundtrack'

    by robamenta

    i havnt watched a carpenter flick for years. but yeah, what i do remember is hating the music. hire a composer!

  • March 21, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    don't even joke about that BSB

    by Lost Prophet


  • March 21, 2007, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Jezum Crow, Grammaton Cleric Binks

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    No disrespect meant, but those are some awful ideas there. No CGI? Why the hell not? Where did this notion that modern film making tools should not be used come from? If there was a problem with the original it was that it barely looks like it takes place in New York at all. If they're going to do a remake, they should CGI the shit out of it. Modern digital compositing techniques would be great for making it look like Snake is actually escaping from New York.<p>Also, David fucking Cronenberg? Holy christ. Why stop there? Why not let Atom Egoyan have a go? How's about a David Lynch version - three hours long and structured as an abstract piece of dream logic?<p>P.S. Coming down with a cold. Apologies for the crotchetyness.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Too Snakey!

    by biggles2_22


  • March 21, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST

    I hope he'll have his "gotta take a shit" eyepatch.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Can't wait to see Snake's childhood! Will he have pet snakes?

  • March 21, 2007, 9:46 a.m. CST

    the bank robbery,,,

    by datachasm

    i thought it was good, the problem with the scene is that it lets on too early that Snake is not necessarily a complete bastard... its kinda weird seeing him be all badass with the cops, after he pretty much gives himself up to try and save Taylor.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Kurt Russell

    by CaptDanielRoe

    Is a very underrated star. He ought to make more movies. How about another Big Trouble in Little China?

  • March 21, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST


    by datachasm has a timeline gathered from "canon" sources. starts with small war in middle east, then russia uses gas on the US that creates lots of "crazies" and criminals. Snake is on a mission, "Leningrad Ruse" flying gliders over a supply station and unwittingly its a suicide mission. Snakes goggle breaks and he gets gas in his eye. he finds he was betrayed and quits the army, and starts bombing Federal buildings.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Thought He was DEAD

    by greekopa


  • March 21, 2007, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Fuck Suicide Girls

    by FrixFrixFrix

    What a bunch of talentless ugly skanks. As for their "burlesque shows", they can't even muster up enough personality to be entertaining for 20 minutes. What a bunch of fucking worthless Rocky Horror rejects. Burlesque? You mean a fat pasty gay guy onstage making a vain attempt at jokes in the worst put-on english accent I've ever heard? Go back to Jersey you sweaty bastard. Next time you tell people you're going to have a show and charge admission at the door and too much for beers and get everyone all packed into your shitty little faux red velvet curtain draped backroom (may as well have been in your mom's basement in Hoboken), maybe you should try actually PUTTING ON A SHOW instead of just standing around like a bunch of blind retards bumping into eachother trying to figure out what to do next. Oh, and just to clarify, wagging your floppy pancake boobs around onstage isn't a statement or empowering to women, it's just fucking floppy pancake boobs. So lay off the cake and try to come up with something at least mildly entertaining next time. Worst six dollars ever!

  • March 21, 2007, 10:18 a.m. CST


    by purplemonkeydw

    Why remake a classic like that? Still holds up...I think. What's the deal with the Suicide Girls? Nice scoop, also the Rob Corddry blog is hilarious!

  • March 21, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST

    And the TalkBack award goes to-

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    We have a tie. It's Spandau Belly & Franklin T Marmoset <BR> <BR> For explaining why prequels invariably suck and for inspiring the following: "Die Hard 0 - This one is a kitchen sink drama, possibly directed by Mike Leigh, where John McClane squabbles with Holly about her new job." <BR> GOLD!

  • March 21, 2007, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Saw the Suicide Girls at a comiccon

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    What the F were they doing there, anyway?? They really weren't that cute in person, at least the ones that came to the show. Escape prequel sounds like a good idea in my opinion. Maybe they can make use of Kurt in a framing device or something?

  • March 21, 2007, 10:45 a.m. CST

    let's have Rockstar make a videogame...

    by lynxpro

    After all, *Escape from New York* deserves a video game more than *The Warriors* ever did. Actually, I'd love to see Rockstar do *Escape* and *Red Dawn*. Those two games would rock the PS3 hardcore.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:47 a.m. CST

    adding my voice...Holloway is Snake redux...

    by lynxpro

    As much as I liked Butler in *300*, Josh Holloway is 100% in my mind as the proper actor to portray Snake in any prequel/remake/flashback of the character. Then again, the studio would probably do something stupid like pick Heath Ledger for the role. What do I know...I wanted Christopher Eccleston as The Joker, so my bad...

  • March 21, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Escape To New York

    by arrangedletters

    You heard it here first.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    RE: John Carpenter died in 1986

    by la_sith

    Shut the fuck up. THEY LIVE (1988) and IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS (1995) are fucking killer movies.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST


    by cekma

    I'd rather pay to see a different shitty remake that I can at least get some sort of enjoyment out of... Watching Nick Cage in a bear suit punching old women.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Lost talkback please.

    by PwnedByStallone

    Pretty please.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:20 a.m. CST


    by Spacekicker2001

    He's kind of a whore for money...anyone else get that from the interview?

  • March 21, 2007, 11:24 a.m. CST

    FACT: Everytime you rub one out to the Suicide Girls,

    by Pound Sand

    The baby Jebus cries.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:26 a.m. CST

    i'd rather...

    by porkchop_Xpress to see another 'escape' than pay to see another suicide girls performance. what a jip that was.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST


    by PwnedByStallone

    Pull my finger.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Whoever came up with the video game idea

    by skimn

    has it right. Leave the damn movie to reside in our memories and dvd players. The Thing was a pretty decent game a few years ago, and this could be done as a grand-theft type game, with glider and wrestling mini games. Who wouldn't want to play as Snake with Kurt doing voice work?? It would outsell Gears of War!! Last good Carpenter flick....? I pretty much enjoyed the one with the Lovecraftian book...forgot the title..

  • March 21, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Another Carpenter film to get raped....

    by mattyholmes

    Does the man not have pride in his work? Why does he prostitue his great films out like this and Halloween?

  • March 21, 2007, 12:04 p.m. CST


    by wilsonfisk89

    This trend is the worst. Not every complicated or "evil" character needs some sad f'ed up childhood to explain why. I'd like to think that theres a certain amount of choice in becoming who you are, existence over essence? 1. Hannabil Lecter 2. Anakin (obv) 3. Mike Myers (zombie) 4. Willy Wonka (Burton) 5. Who else....?

  • March 21, 2007, 12:05 p.m. CST

    What's This L.A. GOTHIC?

    by Roderick Usher

    Read the article and he mentions this script. Anyone know anything about it?

  • March 21, 2007, 12:20 p.m. CST

    5. Dr. Evil

    by just pillow talk


  • March 21, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    How about a "reimagining"?

    by Randy of AFTIMES

    Jason Statham as Snake Plisskin in ESCAPE FROM THE U.K. And Josh Hollowy is a pretty inspired choice in cst as well.

  • March 21, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST


    by Spandau Belly

    Sorry Mr. Speilburg, you were on the right track with that third Indiana Jones movie, but you didn't prequel it up enough.<br><br>I love that scene where we find out that Indy wears a hat on his head because a guy gave it to him. I always wondered why Indy did that. I mean, putting a hat on your head just isn't something guys do. You need to explain that. But Speilburg should have made the whole movie explaining that, not just an isolated flashback. Then you need to make a spinoff movie telling the story of the guy who gave him the hat, get the guy who did "Electra" to make it. Then make a prequel to that movie.<br><br>Plus the prequel portion was waaaayyyyyy under-Jordana Brewsterized. I mean, you think a master filmmaker like Speilburg would know this stuff, but we all make mistakes and assume that the public wants a story with a climax and not just a bunch of exposition. It happens.

  • March 21, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    It won't be a prequel

    by Vern

    I mean come on dude, I don't know why Carpenter is saying that, but the movie is called ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK. Let's say they have 15 or 20 minutes of Snake in the war or the bank robbery or prison, so what, it's still gonna be a remake.<p> As for Suicide Girls, I cannot fuckin believe that you guys bring the same nitpicky assholeisnish you have towards movies to your fuckin jerkoff material! You don't like to jerk off to pictures of these girls, jerk off to pictures of some other girls! Or whatever you jerk off to pictures of. If they failed to give you a boner you don't gotta call a fuckin town meeting to express your grievances. Jesus.

  • March 21, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    no way will it be a prequel.... vern is right.

    by Seph_J

    remake carpenter... thats the motto these days.

  • March 21, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST


    by Seph_J

    'vern', "I cannot fuckin believe that you guys bring the same nitpicky assholeisnish you have towards movies to your fuckin jerkoff material!" - that sounds like an awfully derogatory thing to say towards the people who keep this website running. Ok, how about we DONT be 'nitpicky', and we DONT write opinions, and we DONT actually come to this site.....would you still have a job?

  • March 21, 2007, 1:11 p.m. CST


    by lilgorgor


  • March 21, 2007, 1:12 p.m. CST

    if EFNY was so FG

    by mrbong

    i dig EFNY as much as everyone else seems to, and i tend to be wary of prequels. however, if the original was so fucking good and perfect as everyone says, why has it not made billions over the past few years? why no "anniversary" editions every five years? there is room for improvement in the film, especially the whole "set in the future of 1997" part. let them have a go at remaking it and we shall see then. if it is as bad as most fear, fine, we can all get together and piss on the director or something.

  • March 21, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST

    didnt Carpenter himself remake...

    by datachasm

    ... In the Mouth of Madness? it was called, Du Mondo Tofu or something, and starred David Gilmour? or was it just a bad dream?

  • March 21, 2007, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Mori, if you are reading, this ones for you...

    by Seph_J

    If Escape from New York gets remade, in my opinion this signals 'la fin absolue du monde' of the film industry.

  • March 21, 2007, 1:20 p.m. CST

    John Carpenter says:

    by Seph_J

    "I’ll be involved with anything if it pays me money." - guess we can stop asking WHY now.

  • March 21, 2007, 1:28 p.m. CST

    When I was a kid, my uncle Sam

    by mr.underwater

    Was super bright, energetic, creative, and passionate. Now he sits there, mindlessly watches whatever sporting event happens to be on the tube, chain smokes, and bitches about anything and everything. That interview reminds me a lot of my uncle Sam. My family thinks that Sam smoked way too much weed in his life and eventually burned out. Perhaps that's Carpenter's problem, as well

  • March 21, 2007, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I know a suicide girl

    by misnomer

    shes a lezzer.

  • March 21, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST

    The Warriors Game sucks!

    by FrixFrixFrix

    thanks for making me wait 3 years for nothing Rockstar

  • March 21, 2007, 1:34 p.m. CST


    by Darth_Kaos

    Not again. . . . come on hollywood - OPEN YOUR EYES - there are tons of indie filmmakers with tons of great ideas. . .original idea! Stop with the remakes, re-imaginings, prequels. . . .hell even sequels (for some) for christ sakes!

  • March 21, 2007, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Hey Vern! I'll be on CNN, call in!

    by Spandau Belly

    I'll be on "Petty Debates with Anderson Cooper" arguing how the KitKat Chunky is waaaayyy better than the traditional four-unit bar. I intend to site this talkback as a philosophical precident.<br><br>You're welcome to call in and share your thoughts.

  • March 21, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Er, um...

    by andyny29

    It's Gerard Butler not "Gerald".

  • March 21, 2007, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by skimn

    What would John Carpenter do ... wake up any ol time of day, get baked, and play videogames while raking up cash from work done 25 years ago. Come to think of it, most of us would dream of a life like that.Add to that happy memories of banging Adrianne, yup, pretty sweet..

  • March 21, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Gerard Butler is Battle beyond the Stars Remake

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Think of it more as a reimagining.

  • March 21, 2007, 2:27 p.m. CST

    VERN, way to push your membership at AICN!

    by biggles2_22

    Talk about a nothing post. That was more nothing than this one.

  • March 21, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    vivavitalogy, ehh, YOU'RE wrong

    by Jaka

    Factually and gramatically. But that's a'ight. The haters will continue to hate anything they didn't find first. lol No worries.

  • March 21, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    And let's just leave spelling out of it...

    by Jaka

    ...mmmkay? Heh.

  • March 21, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Drat you, Michael Jackson.

    by MCMLXXVl

    Darn you, Janet Jackson.

  • March 21, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    ..but sad

    by skimn


  • March 21, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset is right

    by dioxholster

    I dont like prequals because i dont wanna know how a character like Snake became Snake. I hated how on Casino Royale they focused on building the character Bond and how he adapted his tendencies, ruined the mystery for me. Cant we just accept cool characters for what they are.

  • March 21, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST

    "Cell phone shouting matches are

    by Merkin Muffley

    the new shootout and carchase." That, sir, is a very astute observation.

  • March 21, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    I heard you were dead. (EFNY the Musical)

    by ZeroCorpse

  • March 21, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST


    by BillyPilgrim

    Snake Plisken vs The Black Adder. Snake time travels to Renaissance England to battle his hated foe The Black Adder. Hilarity ensues. Followed by vomiting and various bowl activities. C'mon it could be a CGI masterpiece. It could be Back To The Future meets Shit.

  • March 21, 2007, 3:20 p.m. CST

    "John Carpenter died in 1986"

    by number5withabullet

    Well, that would prevent him from making "They Live" starring Rowdy Roddy Piper. That's the movie they should fucking remake. Great concept, lot's of politics, cool action, and Bruce Campbell style one-liners. Also the production values on the first one were extremely low, and could be improved on with even a small effects budget. Ok, who would star in it? You know they're gonna make it eventually. How about a beefed up Gael Garcia Bernal in the starring role with Djimon Hounsou as his friend? And it takes place in Sao Paulo. And it's called "City of God II: Kick ass and chew bubblegum."

  • March 21, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST

    So Just What Did Happen in Cleveland?

    by Evil Chicken

    I’m still wrapping my head around this one. I believe that John Carpenter and Kurt Russell should have another go at Snake. That being said this remake will bring in buckets of cash re-introduce the franchise and even have purists like me buying a ticket opening night. Butler will make a great Snake but in my geek boy heart of hearts Plissken will always be Kurt Russell.

  • March 21, 2007, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Dear Vern,

    by vivavitalogy

    With all do respect, give me a fugging break. What do you care if a bunch of dorks wax about how much they despise those tarts. It's just that voicing opinions on yet another remake is tiresome and as always, futile. So without further ado, the Suicide Girls are tantamount to the idea of shit telling puke that it stinks.

  • March 21, 2007, 5:37 p.m. CST


    by vivavitalogy

    I know you are but what am I? I'm rubber your glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Nanny nanny boo boo. You're such a poo poo head. My dad can beat up your dad. And so on and so on...

  • March 21, 2007, 5:46 p.m. CST


    by Laserbrain

    That's all I got to say

  • March 21, 2007, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Steve Buscemi for Fresno Bob!

    by Laserbrain

    That's all I got to say in this post.

  • March 21, 2007, 5:57 p.m. CST

    John Carpenter needs to marry green-eyed chinese girl

    by Laserbrain

    The poor old bastard probably needs the cash but GOD DAMMIT why does he have to let em fuck with Snake?

  • March 21, 2007, 6:11 p.m. CST

    And Spandau Belly -

    by Laserbrain

    Mate, that is some funny, funny shit about Irreversible. Huzzah, Kudos, Props and all that.

  • March 21, 2007, 6:15 p.m. CST

    could be rad

    by mr. brownstone

    I am ready for this.

  • March 21, 2007, 7:48 p.m. CST

    VERN: Take a deep breath and count to ten.

    by aceattorney


  • March 21, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Sorry I forgot about They Live...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    So that makes it 1988 when JC died mouth of madness is unmitigated shit. And how can people slate Carpenters scores. Halloween is the scariest music ever TM and the Escape From New York music is fucking awesome.

  • March 21, 2007, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Jesus Fucking Christ. MCMLXXVI

    by Fleet

    Words can't describe how much I hate reading your stupid fucking posts... You fucking chode.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    people h8 on Carpenter's music because...

    by lynxpro generally goes like "wah-wah-wah" "wah-wah-wah" with a guitar and are just variations of the same theme. Think about it. *They Live* had it. *Vampires* had it. And *Ghosts of Mars* had it. Then again, if you think about it, thematically, Carpenter has been making the same movie over and over... *Assault on Precinct 13*, *The Prince of Darkness* and *Ghosts of Mars* are pretty much the same flick with different hooks. Still, when Carpenter rocks, he rocks.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:07 p.m. CST

    shut up, Michael Bay

    by lynxpro

    Go transform into a talented director ...

  • March 21, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Surviving Cleveland

    by Horror Freak

    there was a set up in escape from la that eluded ever being made. honestly i kind of hope that if they do go the the prequel route, that they go that story. i want to see snake lose his eye. maybe he did in the comic, but i never read that. keep in mind, escape from new york may just be the recognizable "codename" for the movie right now.

  • March 21, 2007, 10:56 p.m. CST


    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    That just makes MCMLXXVI and his fans laugh harder.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Who plays Hauk? It could be . . . uh, Sandra Bullock.

    by kabong

    She's Snake's favorite teacher in high school. Yeah, it's Escape from New York High School. Gerard Butler plays a fantasy figure in young Snake's video game world. This is going to be a shattering cinematic experience.

  • March 21, 2007, 11:45 p.m. CST


    by montessaurus

    Brother. Are you feeling okay? This is the first I've seen you deviate from the tried and true "Damn You Micheal Bay" formula. First "Praise You Micheal Bay" and now "Drat You Micheal Jackson"??? I don't even know you anymore. But hey, mix it up.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:28 a.m. CST


    by Vern

    I'm used to everybody being negative and pissed off about every movie they ever heard of, but being that way about a particular type of porn you don't like is new to me. And I cannot deny it, it is pretty god damn funny. This ain't Sparta so don't kill the messenger.<p> And Seph_J, this is not a job, this is a mission. They don't pay me, so you can't really use that "we sign your paycheck by writing a talkback" trip on me. Unless you want to start sending me money, which I will accept, but I will still laugh at some of this shit that goes on here. Because it's funny.<p> Sorry for offending you though fellas, didn't mean to make everybody mad.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:55 a.m. CST

    apology accepted...

    by Seph_J are now my favourite. Do you GENUINELY not get paid? Jeez. You should strike or something.

  • March 22, 2007, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Theres a MCMLXXVI clone in the talkbacks...

    by Seph_J

    ... although you can tell them apart, because on of them has a FULL STOP after the name. The original MCMLXXVI would never deviate from his precious 4 words. But the imposter has my respect.

  • March 22, 2007, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Correction: Theres TWO MCMLXXVI Clones in this talkback

    by Seph_J


  • March 22, 2007, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Nah Vern, don't apologize.

    by Jaka

    Everyone is allowed their own preference, granted, understood, great! But there's some folk on this thread talking out their asses. Yes, SG's have tattoos and piercings. Yes, some have dreads. Yes, some of them are not what would be considered "traditional" beauty. But some of them are the most beautiful women on the planet, by anybodies definition of the word. And the site is owned/run LARGELY by women. There is NO PLACE else like it. There is nothing else like it period. Anybody professing otherwise on this thread is speaking from ignorance and a lack of $48 a year. And it is sad. It shows how full of pointless hate some of your are. Just spewing hate, for no reason. Hate hate hatity hate hate hate. It's fuckin' boring already.

  • March 22, 2007, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Come on, Vern. You get "shoe money" like Herc. Come on.

    by Darth Bauer

    Vern, you know everyone is going to shit on something here one way or another. Even if they love something, they have to crap on something so they seem like the are differentiating themselves. This is the internet, after all. Everyone pretends to be anti-everything. But in all seriousness, the Suicide Girls are gross. They were people who no one gave a shit about their opinions, so they took a bunch of broads who ain't too pretty, got them to show some nasty banana-tits, and got popular because it was free porn. And you really don't get "shoe money" like Herc claims he gets? I can't believe that.

  • March 22, 2007, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Just got off the phone with ghosts from mars...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...they said they SUCKED HARD!!!!

  • March 22, 2007, 2:49 a.m. CST

    ESCAPE FROM fake title talkback

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    I tried...But I guess there will be dozens coming up next...

  • March 22, 2007, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Didn't they remake DARK STAR?

    by Maniaq

    I think they called it... SUPERNOVA - it was funny as hell!

  • March 22, 2007, 2:51 a.m. CST


    by BannedOnTheRun

    Snake Plisskin? Methinks thou surely must have passed!

  • March 22, 2007, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Where's the Jet Li Mummy 3 talkback?

    by Trader Groucho 2

    I know there's tons of people here just rarin' to slag Rob Cohen....

  • March 22, 2007, 3:03 a.m. CST

    I was worried for a second

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    It seemed like MCMLXXVI's commitment was waning, but it turns out the 'drat you Michael Jackson' fellow is MCMLXXVl. A clever ruse, MCMLXXVl, but you will not stop the entity known only as MCMLXXVI from fulfilling its masterplan.<p>It is coming, Ain't It Cool types. Be ready.

  • March 22, 2007, 3:08 a.m. CST

    P.S. Vern is probably right

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I reckon the prequel aspect of the film will be a new first act that sets up Snake's character before he's screwed over and sent into New York. Heaven forbid we should, you know, learn about the character as the story progresses. Thanks, Hollywood. God knows, us film watching assholes are an unimaginative bunch. Bless you for explaining everything. Here's an idea: The title sequece will show the guy in the factory making Snake's eyepatch! It'll be just like that bit with the bullet in Lord Of War.

  • March 22, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Novelization of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK had more...

    by Monkey_King

    explanations as to where Plissken came from, how his parents died, how he got his eye patch/lost his eye and how he and his buddy Frezno Bob almost got away with that bank heist.

  • March 22, 2007, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Vern, its not ragging on a TYPE of porn...

    by 0007

    It's the fact that its not porn at all! Suicide Girls is like Playboy: Its like looking at the underwear section of a JC Penny's catalogue. If I'm searching for porn, it'd better push things more into the Hustler category, to keep the magazine analogy.

  • March 22, 2007, 8:48 a.m. CST

    I watch the suicide girls for the articles

    by Lost Prophet

    I don't see anything wrong with being picky over wank material. <p>it's all about standards, if you want to bash one out over single-legged obese pregnant dwarf porn then fine, I'll even recommend an optician. And you even reserve the right to criticise above porn for the Dwarf not being fate enough.

  • March 22, 2007, 8:51 a.m. CST

    you're on to something Franklin T Marmoset...

    by just pillow talk

    Maybe they can show him at the barber getting a trim before being sent in too. After all, that hair doesn't look good on its own!

  • March 22, 2007, 9:05 a.m. CST

    on the MCMLXXVI subject...

    by Seph_J

    ... I now believe that the only way he can possibly make appearences in EVERY talkback... and only ONCE in each, is if all the moderators have the password to the name, and each of them ensure that they post 'damn you michael bay' in any thread they start..... Shoe money? hmmm...

  • March 22, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST


    by Lost Prophet

    proof reading blows. <p>Seph, mate, let it go- you only encourage him.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Another one!

    by Lost Prophet

    British Pikeys invading AICN! I'm so sorry

  • March 22, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST

    please do not remake In the Mouth of Madness

    by CuervoJones

    Best horror movie of the 90´s

  • March 22, 2007, 12:48 p.m. CST

    never enough prequels, never enough!

    by Spandau Belly

    C'mon guys, we all know we're stupid, why did we fight it so long. Hollywood is finally helping us realize our lack of vision and imagination with prequels, remakes, and premaquels.<br><br>I want to give a special award to THE EXORCIST which spawned two prequels covering the same materiel and using slightly different footage. Thank guys! As part of the greater viewing public I really appreciate how sensitive the film industry is to how much new things frighten me.<br><br>I also want to thank all the talkbackers here at AICN for backing me in my quest for the total premaquelization and greater Jordana Brewsterination of the cinematic artform!<br><br>I love guys! May you all be remade as Mark Wahlberg in the next life!

  • March 22, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    All I'm saying

    by Vern

    is it's funny that some of you guys get like that. Come on man, you know it is. I never said Suicide Girls is better than hardcore pornography. Besides, I don't want them to get sad and commit suicide because some guys on the internet pointed out that their pornography did not contain penetration.

  • March 22, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST


    by BannedOnTheRun

    I thought you was dead.

  • March 22, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    actually VERN...

    by Seph_J

    I heard you were taller.

  • March 22, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Attack of the MCMLXXVI clones!!!!

    by hadez

    I can't do anything to stop them from making this movie. So I'll just have to wait and see. <p>And thank god that whole MCMLXXVI business was explained!

  • March 22, 2007, 5:08 p.m. CST

    What does Nick Castle think of ESCAPE FROM L.A. and...

    by Monkey_King

    this brainfart of an idea of doing a prequel to EFNY? Castle co-wrote/co-created the first film, yet has anyone ever heard what he thought of Carpenter's first remake to EFNY(because we all know EFLA was a remake).

  • March 22, 2007, 7:43 p.m. CST

    The REAL Plissken thinks Remake is STUPID!!!!

    by havehope

    Kurt Russell has publicly made himself heard about how annoyed he is that his own character is being remade. BRING RUSSELL BACK!!!!! BRING CARPENTER BACK!!!! ESCAPE FROM EARTH/REALITY!!!!

  • March 22, 2007, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Quint's random SW Prequel bashing is very douchebagy

    by TallBoy66

    Its kind of like some random ass bringing up bullshit just to be an annoying fuckback at random. In fact, its exactly like that. Very douchey.

  • March 22, 2007, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Vern, thanks for the clarification

    by 0007

    I'm glad you understood my point, and I understand now what it is that you were getting on about earlier. Thanks for being civil about it and putting up with fanboy nitpicking.

  • March 22, 2007, 9:41 p.m. CST

    So did Snake get his name from Snake's on a Plane?

    by kabong

    Snake's on Air Force One in the prequel-sequel-reboot-revisioned-reimagined thingy? Too bad Donald Pleasance is dead or we could see him flip out when he plays the tape Snake slipped him and executive orders Hauk (too bad Lee Van Cleef is dead too) to terminate him. Are there any tape players extant? I've got a feeling there are a few eight-track fans on these boards.

  • March 22, 2007, 10:29 p.m. CST

    The Suicide Girls are hot, you fags,

    by CTU Mole

    I love the Hot Topic, poser punk goth chic. Yummy. And this is going to suck ass. I don't care how thick Gerard Butler is. He always has a look on his face like he's going to cry. Russle's Snake would make him his bicth.

  • March 22, 2007, 11:50 p.m. CST

    I think we all agree on a few things

    by Vern

    1. Hardcore pornography = good<p> 2. Escape From New York remake other than Escape From LA = bad

  • March 23, 2007, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Ya, Kurt should have an opinion I guess. He created him

    by nomihs

    Mr. Russell says it all for us. "FUCK that! I am Snake Plissken! I didn't play Snake Plissken, I created him!" I think I would agree.

  • March 23, 2007, 12:29 a.m. CST

    one more thing Vern

    by Seph_J

    3. Kurt Russell is way cooler than Gerard Butler.

  • March 23, 2007, 1:03 a.m. CST

    oh well...

    by lynxpro

    Maybe the remake will prompt MGM to send the film print to those folks that digitally "scrub" films with their 600 PowerMac setup and thus ready it for its Blu-Ray release.

  • March 23, 2007, 1:19 a.m. CST

    The best thing about Suicide Girls...

    by BabatuFerguson

    ...frankly, is the conversation. The place is crawling with smart geeks, of both genders, and there are plenty of groups (that you can't read unless you're a member) filled with people who know what the hell they're talking about. Some of the girls there are unbelievably hot; some of them are not. There are well over a thousand of them, so there's bound to be a quality continuum... And, incidentally, the site has never pretended to be hardcore pornography -- so complaining that it's not hardcore pornography is completely retarded. Completely.

  • March 23, 2007, 1:41 a.m. CST

    "Hardcore pornography = good"

    by Devil By The Deed

    Actual sex= way better

  • March 23, 2007, 4:23 a.m. CST


    by 1st and only

    weird seeing a debate on hardcore pornography on aint it cool, so back to the point....NO KURT NO SNAKE!simple....

  • March 23, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST


    by 0007

    The only reason people are lulled to SG is primarily to ogle. Its a secondary factor that there may be really cool discussions going on, but if I'm going to ogle or discuss things I'm going straight to the best sources for each one of those individual items. I suppose if I found tattoos and piercings attractive I'd be there all the time chatting away, but otherwise its not my cup of tea. I'm not bashing anyone that does like it, but am just sick of all the overboard excitement I constantly hear about it, as if I'm sick and wrong for not liking that style.

  • May 16, 2007, 7:33 a.m. CST


    by Quintus_Arrius


  • May 20, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Um... dunno really...

    by Quintus_Arrius

    What do you reckon?...