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Bryan Singer and Tom Cruise hunt Hitler?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here... now this one sounds cool as hell.
Bryan Singer is directing a currently Untitled WW2 film from a script by Christopher McQuarrie and Nathan Alexander. This is Singer and McQuarrie's first real team-up since THE USUAL SUSPECTS.
They set up the project at United Artists and decided to go one step further and ask Tom Cruise to not only exec. produce the film, but to star in it as well.
The story is based on actual events, an attempt to assassinate Adolf Hitler during the height of WW2.
Sounds like a great action-suspense premise and with the talent already attached, this could be really damn great.
Singer starts shooting this summer, to be wrapped, edited and released before he starts up on the SUPERMAN RETURNS sequel, if that does indeed move forward.
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THIS IS IT
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and cruse is a washed up assclown!
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Bryan Singer sure loves Nazis.. I hope Tom plays Rommel!
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Now thats an interesting premise!
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except the arseholes who claim it
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Damn you Michael Bay
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damn you tom cruise
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Fuck Cruise and his cult. I love Singer but I'm not watching this shit. People need to stop kowtowing and dealing with closet-dwelling In Denial Man so maybe one day his crazy ass will stay from a camera and quit foisting himself, his movies, his beard, and his not-his daughter on the world.
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In which Ving Rhames invents a time machine for little Tommy to travel back to the fourties and drop into Hitler's bunker on a bungie cord. You may say that sounds stupid, but Tom'll be wearing an Eva Braun mask, obviously.M:I:V will involve Tom blasting into space to fight Xenu, of course. Or maybe the Leprechaun, I'm not sure which.
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... can actually NOT fuck up a good story or premise by making the movie all about HIM, instead of being an honest to god (or Xenu) TEAM based effort. Lord knows he's managed to turn everything ELSE he's touched to 24 carat, gold-plated shit.
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Dude's very short.
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Mar 21, 2007 3:14:28 AM CDT
Much like Kent Brockman and the alien ant overlords
by franklin t marmoset
I welcome the day when Cruise and his cult take over the world. I am not a scientologist myself, but why not let those crazy bastards have a go? The first step, I guess, will be the multi-million dollar biopic of L Ron Hubbard, starring John Travolta, which will clean up at the oscars. After that, there will be stopping them. E-meters will be available for £4.99 from all branches of Tesco, with free thetan checks by a girl in a white lab coat next to the pharmacy counter. While you wait!
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... that Tom Cruise has not jumped in the sack with. Slut. Looking forward to this. Sounds cool.
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Freudian slip? Maybe my subconscious is not as pro-scientology as I had thought. Or, maybe that's what my thetans want me to think!
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Tom Cruise seems to me to be a "modern" actor - his mannerisms, his look, they just don't quite work in period pieces like Far and Away or Last Samurai (or even Interview w/a V).
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Singer screwed up the first one so badly, that I'd say just give it up unless they get someone else to write the script.
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Is Cruise playing Hitler? Cause then m subject line would be inaccurate.
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Give that scientology nutter a chance! Just because he jumped on Oprah's sofa everybody has the hates for him! 99% due to the bad media coverage which is ironic as Cruise has made them cash upto the sofa episode. Yeah it was over the top but it doesn't change how he was regarded before that!
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He directed X-men 1 and 2. He need not accomplish anything further in his life to have my unending respect.
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MI 3 accomplished what it's predacessors didn't by being watchable. yeah, Harry and the AICN crew went overboard in praise, but it's not bad to watch at least once.
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"Ok, so in the end, we find that Xenu is inspiring Hitler. Thats how it happened. I've done the research!"
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They just filmed him to look tall
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...MI:2 was a calamity as far as I'm concerned while MI:3 was the best of the bunch. I think that Mr Tom is a decent actor and I generally enjoy he's movies. The hatred for Mr Tom in America is baffling to us Brits. Indeed, he is loved and cherished by the general populace of these grey and gloomy shores. Of course he resembled a twat leaping up and down like the lords in the festive song but quite frankly, who gives fuck! He loves his untalented girl and practices some weird voodoo shit in a spacesuit with a convenient access flap in the ass... lets-shoot-the-muthafucka! (Shheeessshhh!) As far as I'm concerned as long as the mo-fo does not jump around me or try’s to sell me air-miles to Jupiter I'm cool and the funky with a muthafucka. I digress... Look, I just want him to make decent films and the above project sounds as though it has potential. Indeed my U.S. cousins, is Mr Tom REALLY that bad? Hail the National Aeronautics and Space Administration! And Hail Arrius!
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... what is the meaning of this link, man... I'll have you explain yourself!
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... I see the humour in this... some classic Americana featuring a British icon. Quite amusing, indeed!
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That's a wonderful idea for a movie. I wonder if the guys succeed in the end.
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isn't it kind of dumb to have a thriller where you know the hero doesn't accomplish anything? I guess apollo 13 was good, but titanic needed tits and falling dudes to put asses in the seats. all this has is tom cruise's crazy ass, and bryan "boring superman" singer...
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That's the first thing that comes to mind. I can sorta see it: Cruise would be the right age, and he does bear a close enough resemblance to von Stauffenberg.
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The assassination attempt FAILS!!!!1!
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He is a good directory and was great for the Xmen, he didn't get Superman. Thats ok but he had his chance. Get someone to helm the next Superman who knows what he is doing. (and maybe just recase the whole film while you are at it)
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Deal with it.
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Omg! A Prequel to Downfall!! Although I heard the script jumps the shark and the heavy wooden table the bomb is under ends up saving the lives of some nazis! Like that would ever happen...
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isn't the real Hitler. And that there's another actual-Hitler behind the scenes and that's who Tom has to kill...but the mission is Top Secret...and then he dies or something...so this is the first time the real Hitler story has ever been told.
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They did this already in a DD movie years ago. I guess it's been long enough for another.
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A reteam with McQuarrie sounds ideal. I think Singer's a talented director, but I would like him to step out of the Superhero genre for a film or two (although I enjoyed X2, Superman, and X1 to a lesser degree). I though McQuarrie's Way of the Gun was pretty good as well. That opening when Benecio Del Toro kicks the shit out of Sarah Silverman is classic.
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...with that I say "Batman, save us!!"
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Prove Scientology is real. This tape will self destruct in 10 seconds....
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doesn't he direct x-men 3, i've been waiting years for it to come out. You'd think after the success of the first two sony would be desperate to release a third with singer at the helm but nothings happened with the franchise strange. I mean aside the parody movie they released a while back that was written by those epic / date movie........................ hang on what the fuck that was a genuine sequel OH FUCK!!
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Like Eddie Murphy in Norbit.
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for a Captain America project
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Singer sure knows how to fuck up continuity in his films. as much as i liked his x-men, he screwed them up. so does this mean the assasination will be successful in this movie.
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He is about to take a sniper shot at Hitler, but then his position is given away by is megawatt smile. A horrendous death ensues.
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I'm looking forward to this. If they get Spacey as Hitler, I'd PISS UNCONTROLLABLY.
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Ich Bin ein Scientologist!
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How`s about something original Singer you knob end?
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...a fictional account of Germans trying to assassinate Churchill. I think they made a bad TV movie back in the eighties...but it was a good book.
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(don't know how I like Cruise playing a German). If it's a fictional America plot, forget it. If it's Grandpa Simpson taking a shot at Hitler and being distracted by Mr. Burns playing a game of Badmington, I am there opening day.
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With McQuarrie involved he might be touting for his old friend for a part. If they make this a dirty dozen type affair with a big cast it could work. Say Duvall, Gerard Butler, Russell Crowe, maybe even Ed Norton. Give it a dark tone and you might have a good movie!
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Come on, I need atleast two more of those movies. The kid subplot sucked but my God I loved Routh as Superman. He had that "Alien" quality as Kal-el all the while being the perfect Kent imaginable. In todays world the original Superman would have been panned as being too cheesey in tone,this movie took those elements out and kicked it up a notch.With Singer saying the next film will be more "Wrath of Kahn" in tone,I am fully prepared to go see a sequel by Singer.And yes I love Smallville,most of the time.
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Who cares if he jumps on couches or worships the queen spider?
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I wonder if their massive egos will collide... yikes!
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I actually got to hang with the screenwriter Christopher McQuarrie at Austin Film Festival. He is a great guy and hypnotic storyteller. He mentioned this script. I believe he called it VALKYRIE. It is, I think, based on the real life incident. He used a scene from it as an example of a using visuals rather than relying on people talking to convey a moment. Just the way McQuarrie told it, you could tell the movie was already very well thought out and exciting. The guy talked to the our crowd of screenwriters and wanna be screenwriters for well over two hours and then gave out his own email address. He also discussed a very cool John Wilkes Booth script in great detail. He was working with Scorsese on that but was now pursuing directing it himself. And he explained a bunch of his own Alexander the Great project which sounded pretty riveting. If they actually make the script that he was talking about I feel pretty confident with this kind of talent attached, this thing has serious potential.
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That is way better than Singers efforts. At least this means that those idiots that wrote SR won't be writing this. I am quite surprised about them working together again- I remember someone told me that Mcquarrie outed SInger in Way of THe Gun. I couldn't find the reference though.Quintus- I'm British and I get the Cruise hate- do you not remember his twatty overreaction when that comedian sprayed him in the face with a water pistol (Which is a fucking twatty thing to do in itself). It totally punctured that phoney (geddit) image of calling people's family up on his public appearances.
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So forgettable I can't remember a thing about it, only the hatred after watching it resonates.
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I hope this movie ends with Tom Cruise killing Hitler with his bare hands.
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This could be a career move by Tommy. At this point, Hitler is one of the few people that makes Cruise seem likable by comparison.
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It has nothing on Singer's films.
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The Titanic sinks and Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!
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The only redeeming element of the Way of the Gun was the actors weapon handling techniques. Clearly the producers hired a proper shooter. The only exception being the cheesy sniper reticle.
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And Way of the Gun was merely average. See it once and you forget about it.
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MCMLXXVIperiod?
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Actually, there was a TV movie about that recently. But this one would be better, because it could show young Hitler finding his first brown shirt in the ugly streets of depression-struck Vienna, falling into a cave full of flying toothbrush mustaches, practising his deadly right-hand salute with an ancient Swiss monk... This would have been the Uwe Boll-directed part 1, for the German market - and then Singer could continue with his sequel, so that the US audience would get a happy ending of Cruise shooting Hitler and replacing him with a retarded clone that loses the war dies in the bunker. Then Singer could follow it with "Superman vs. Hitler"
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was on last night. So wrong...
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Maybe they can hook up and become the next hot hollywood couple. Singer will write and direct his movies while Cruise will produce and star in them. Good luck to both of them.
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Hitler's fascination with the occult finally pays off and he is transformed into Shitler. Cruise has to draw upon the souls of the poor aliens that got vaporized in those B-52s to defeat Super Hitler.
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and has a tail...and a over-sized hand...and he likes candy bars.
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We all know its going to happen.
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was terribly bland, imo Routh was a shitty choice, he just does not have the same charisma that George and Christopher had. then Spacey... uhh, what happened to this guy? anyways, leave it to Singer to think nobody has ever seen Superman before... i thought that flick was gonna have Supes fighting on alien worlds and stuff, but in the end it was the same old same old.
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Tom Cruise performs the same magic trick every night with Nikola Tesla's clone Hitler. He is killed by a de-aged Ian McKellan playing the Nazi from Apt Pupil and rises from the grave as Lestat to exact revenge for the theft of the Ark of the Covenant. Then Indiana Jones stakes him through the heart and flies off with Chewbacca and Sean Young. BOX OFFICE BABY!!!
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KATIE HOLMES FOR EVA BRAUN.
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But hopefully it'll be cool and look cool.
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tom better bring his e-meter with him if he wants to win.
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Would love to see this movie. Although Superman Returns was boring as hell.
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In this film, Cruise's character will attempt to audit Xenu the Body Thetan off of Hitler. When he fails he'll just shoot Hitler in the head.
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But Singer has made good movies before, and movies based on historical events where everyone knew what was going to happen have been good before too. This could work well.
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looking forward to this film... Bout time singer does something other than Superhero movies...
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i am sure the film was called Rogue Male, with Peter O'Toole. it was about this chap who was of a mind to assassinate Hitler, and went off to have a bash at it.
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Himself helping old ladies to walk the street and also helping firemen to get down cats from trees and roofs.
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singer and homoman cruise. this could be good and not the pile of horse shit i intially thought.
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That's my word from the council estates
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Rogue Male was originally a novel by Geoffrey Household (and great fun); it was filmed before by Fritz Lang as Man Hunt but the TV movie with O'Toole, despite a somewhat cheesy TV production, is better. I wouldn't be surprised if it's what they're basing this on because the book is very elitist in its own anti-Nazi way, you can imagine someone like Cruise identifying with the main character's speeches about his own natural aristocracy giving him the right to assassinate Hitler. (Yeah, it's basically an anti-fascist book with fascist attitudes, but despite that, it works really well.)
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Since when is the Superman sequel in doubt? It's been made common knowledge that Singer has a deal signed now, and has for months. Since that deal would certainly be 'pay-or-play', and since according to Routh story scripting has been heavy underway, I thought that any question we would see a sequel from Singer to follow RETURNS wasn't up in the air at this point?(Sorry, no pun intended...well, alright, a little.)
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People tend to forget that Singer got into the business of hollywood franchise films by making indepedent little gems. I say cast the shit out of this movie, keep a low budget and a low profile, and it could be this year's LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE. Had to say it. Actually, I don't post very often because I actually have a job and a life (well, the second part is arguable) so I better comment on the hate for Superman Returns. I just don't get why the hell everyone has such a big problem with it. I mean, it had plenty of flaws, yeah, but what doesn't now-a-days? I think all the fanboys need to hush up a bit... if your idea of "Superman" is so fucking good then write your script and shop it around. I thought SR was totally servicable, even if it was unsatisfying to some. Singer also showed once before that he was quite capable of taking established characters in a first movie and upping the ante for the second, making a badass sequel. I could be wrong, but he's too talented a filmmaker to make the same mistakes in II than he did in "returns."
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cant anyone remember what the German government did to his scientology cult; they threw them out and told'em to suck their own balls. I bet Tom wants revenge by doing this movie. I dont know how but u'll see
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to get your WW2 fix
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Hopefully WB wises up and NEVER make a Supes Part 2.
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Tom Cruise as Dave Hitler Jr.
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Singer rocks, but McQuarrie rules! Given his uncredited work on BATMAN AND ROBIN and AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN PARIS, there's no doubt in my mind that this film is going to blow the roof off the motherfucker!
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...The way things have been goin,I wouldnt be suprised at all
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I generaly focus on what an actor does on screen rather than what he does in public. If you never watched crap entertainment news or read shit gossip mags then surely you wouldn't know any of this so why should it affect your opinion of the films he is in. The only people who slag Tom are the press and people like you lot who have never met him. The people who have worked with him i.e. Spielberg, Coppola, Kubrick, Stone, De Palma, Scorsesse, P T Anderson, Cameron Crowe, Tony Scott, Micheal Mann, Rob Riner, Barry Levinson all have nothing but praise for him and have never reported him thrusting his beliefs on anyone. As for his befiefs, why is Scientology any less true than any other religion, there is no proof behind any of them. Just because a religion was invented thousands of years ago doesn't make it any more plausible. It always strikes me as amussing as to how there seemed to be so many prophets and miracles back then. I'm sure if any of us went back in time to those 'primitive screwheads' as Ash (the one true God) would say then we could trick them into believing we where sons of God. Anyway you all seem to forget how crap Hollywoods usual output is whenever Tom is mentioned. Whilst not all his films have been perfect they at least show a bit more originality than the norm. He always tries something new. Even when making sequals like the MI series he tries to make each one different. Even the crap MI:II pushed the action bar somewhat. The first was a great De Palma thriller and the third in my opinion was a masterclass in action pacing and tension. Even though a few cheesy moments did hamper it ('Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall' What the fuck?). Anyhow there are people making films ten times worse that get much less agro than Cruise, so give him a break and try and just watch his films instead of listening to immature press bullshit.
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Where he will play Tom Cruise like he always does. He certainly has a magnetic personality, but he is always Tom Cruise. He ruined The Last Samurai.
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a non-character and it is acceptable to be Tom Cruise, or when he is riffing on himself as in Magnolia, Vanilla Sky. But it is really not good for big celebrities to play historical characters unless it is a riff on themselves. For instance, Tom Hanks was out of place in Saving Private Ryan to me.
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But no-one complains. Tom didn't act like Tom in Magnolia, thats what he does need more of, small character pieces. He always comes off as playing quite similar characters because he always does big movies which focus on one character in tense enviroments. I was completely absorbed by his performance in Collateral as well. He should do a proper bad guy. I always thought he would have made an interesting Lex Luthor.
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He's an okay actor, but he is always Brad Pitt, his presence RUINED Troy.
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was annoying in The Last Samurai as the great white hope. It would've been more tolerable if it wasn't Tom Cruise doing the jaw muscle twitch and steeling yet watery eyes that he does in every one of his films. It was like MI:Samurai edition.
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Because that's Tom in every film.
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are high you would hit it. Brad looks good with this clothes off. Big deal. He's Hansel to Cruise's Zoolander. He looked like a surfer on roids and he was in no way believable as Achilles. It was a shame because Bana deserved a better foil.
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draws of Scientology, you know. It's all about how great you are and how everyone is trying to kill your greatness. Cruise likes to be a celebrity - they all do, even if they pretend they don't. I didn't say Cruise can't act, I just think he's one-note and to me method actors like Dean, Brando, all of them are just lazy and want to indulge their own strangeness.
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Your basicly complaining because his face doesn't change. Most actors look the same every time they cry or laugh or whatever. The thing with Tom's movies is that he plays characters which get into extreme emotional states. Most big action actors don't display any emotion in films. Every time the camera get up close to his face and his jaw tightens and his eyes go red it actually looks like the man is very upset. Most actors in action films just look a bit miffed when bad stuff goes down.
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That the opening scene from MI:III with him a Phillip Seymore Hoffman was one of the most intense jarring openings to a film i've ever seen.
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Okay, sure he's in a nutty cult, but let's face it, scientology is still slightly more plausible than Christianity, so I'd much rather target Mel Gibson than Cruise.
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But I love crying scenes. Thats why we love movies to see extreme emotion. If a film is supposed to be sad i will try and let it absorb me no matter how bad it is and if it makes me cry then it has succeeded. A lot of people will try their hardest not to let a film draw them in. They think its gay or whatever to cry or be scared in a horror. It's very easy to watch a scary film and not be scared if you don't let yourself be. Whats the point?
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Lord Bullington nailed it. Certain actors can pull off period, but someone like Cruise would be anachronistic in that time period.
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Went back and watched MI:III again (without bitchin about Tom in your head whilst you watch) you would see that in terms of tension and pace very few films come close to it. JJ Abrahms realises how to direct action, you actually have to give a fuck about the characters goals. Having his missus taken made the last half of the film much more focused than the first two. Every time I watch it I'm on the edge of my seat. Only the embassy chase in Casino Royale has had the same energy in my opinion.
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Can't we get past that? It's as disgusting as racist talk.
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That would be killer. Remake "M" and put Cruise in it. Damn, he would excel in that role, and that's a great film to remake. While it's a classic film, because it was one of the first police procedurals, it is so full of exposition it's almost unwatchable. Cut the exposition, lean on the tension and the chase, and it would be a paranoid classic.
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About when I said people "think its gay or whatever to cry". Surely i was at the most accusing other people of gay bashing. Which i wasn't. I don't know if you know or not but in england the BBC have officially stated that they now except and use the term 'gay' to mean crap or stupid. Just in the way it was once used to mean happy. So everyone can now say 'your gay' without it being in anyway homophobic.
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My post just happened to follow yours. I didn't even see yours before mine went up. If I had an issue with someone, I would address the person by name. And then I would shout, "j'accuse!"
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MI:III was okay, but when Cruise does that in EVERY MOVIE (and he does) it is like a monkey doing a trick, you know? There is nothing special about it. That's why I say one-note. It's fine for certain performances (MI, Mr. & Mrs. Smith) but not one that calls for serious chops. Which period pieces usually do. Mel Gibson and Ford are in the same boat as far as I'm concerned. DiCaprio could be on his way there if he is not careful.
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Jason Biggs.
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actors.
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He's the female equivilent of Merryl Streep.
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Nazi Germany is played the hell out. Just quit it already.
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Just kiddin.
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Superman: Jason Biggs
Lex Luthor: Tom Cruise
Lois Lane: Lindsay Lohan
Perry White: Steve Martin
Jimmy Olsen: Paul Reubens
Superman's Kid: Michael Moore
It's pure gold, baby.
Dream cast for Untitled Singer and Cruise Hate Hitler Project:
Tom Cruise: Tom Cruise
Adolph Hitler: Jake Gyllenhaal
Eva Braun: Maggie Gyllenhaal
Hermann Göring: Steve Buscemi
Josef Mengele: Tony Roberts
Indiana Jones: Harrison Ford
Dr. Jones, Sr: Craig Ferguson
Indiana Jones III: Josh Hartnett
Sallah: Muqtada al-Sadr
Dr. Brody: Phillip Seymour Hoffman
FDR: Paul Giamatti
Mussolini: Ray Romano
God: Wilford Brimley
Nazi #3: Ed Begley Jr.
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I seriously hate LOL, but I LOLed.
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Imagine that big grin and his manic eyes as he kicks the shit out of batman.
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Dam you Nazis!
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He's better at villains. Ranting ones.
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...you where refering to Bronx Cheer? Ha ha! Tom Cruise is gay! Ha ha he is short! Ha ha i am the first person to say either of those things!
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Dressing up like Hitler in school isn't cool!
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then there would be an irony to it.
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except the fact that he is a zealous cultist fuck who bullies people and parades his sham of a marriage as the goal of all the sad fucks who follow him into the darkness.
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Did you notice he wasn't invited to the Oscars this year?
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He makes movies, lots of people watch them, simple. And Knugen even if i didn't put your comments down to some sort of bitter jealousy or anti religious statement then how does any of that impact what he does on screen?
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Cruise and Scientology are the laughing stock of Hollywood (and America) right now. Sure, he still gets work, but stars fall, my son. Stars fall.
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..so Hitler would be a doddle. You realise that Syler from Heroes is based on Tom Cruise and his "witchcraft" don't you?
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Making fun of Scientology doesn't really qualify as "anti-religious statement". It's not like he was denigrating Catholics or something.
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Catholics have also been the laughing stock of a lot of people for a few hundred years. At least Scientology aint starting wars. He may be the laughing stock of people who read gossip mags but i'm sure people who are obsessed by the private life of the stars are far more of a laughing stock. Like i said i don't give a shit if he wants to shag dogs in his spare time, it's his films i watch.
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would be the ultimate Superman. He is classicly good looking, he is a more suited age than Routh and he has real depth.
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holding a lot of beliefs.
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Seriously, could we please all admit that Singer did a nice ripoff of Donner's movie, with better effects. Give it to someone else or kill it. If it does go forward, please NO LEX LUTHOR.
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It was a very well done tribute to Donners classic. The effects in the shuttle bit where brilliant. Now it has noting to do with the fact that it is CGI (Superman is a great example of something that CGI is perfect for) but there was no tension or anything in that scene. Now its equivilent in the original Doner film, even after seeing it over 100 times, still makes the hairs on my neck stand up. Every time that helecopter falls and then the theme kicks in and he catches it with one hand I want to jump up and down. Somehow, even with brilliant effects and everything I just don't get that kick when he catches the plane.
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didn't want his Superman to get a Kryptonite shiv and then when that failed silently pray the whole Kryptonite-laced island would come down on his head.
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The most bland Lois imaginable. I actually lost all sense of why Clark even wants to be with her. Not a single bit of banter in the whole film, in fact she acts like she doesn't even know him that well.
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that had known each other in the way the characters are supposed to if it was a continuation of the Donner films. Reeve and Kidder looked mature, they had developed a chemistry, there was a palpable sense of that which became its own thing when you become identified with a specific character. It's ridiculous to think they could recreate that, they should've made their own film. Really, those actors never stood a chance they were just trying to imitate actors, not be characters.
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And killed any desire to see another Bryan Singer film as effectively as Batman & Robin did with Joel Schumacher's films. I honestly cannot forgive such wanton and willfully ignorant destruction of characters which are LITERALLY written for the directors decades ahead of time. Anyone who THINKS Suerman Returns was good, or "serviceable" beyond a few modern SFX scenes, is simply an idiot. No exaggeration.
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that although it was supposed to be 6 years later, everyone looked 6 years younger. Also keeping Lex as a crafty villan who comes up with real estate schemes was just a waste of Spaceys talent. Even the Luthour in the Adventures of Lois and Clark was more intelligent. I like the idea of Luthorcorp and Lex being a cold dark character.
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for all I care. Just keep him away from Superman. Good lord. Everything the man does practically turns to gold... X Men, House, etc, but Superman was an absolute abomination. That was one example of a person being "too close" to the project.
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I just can't express how much I despised that movie. Words don't do my feelings on the matter justice. If you took all the rage from the "George Lucas raped my childhood" losers and threw in an intensity equalling the energy from 10,000 white hot suns, you would begin to understand how much I hate that movie. EVERY. SINGLE. FRAME.
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*fallsasleep*
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You're very funny.
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CAST SHIA LABEOUF AS HITLER'S DAD!
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You said (quote): "I'm surprised Cruise is still getting work. Did you notice he wasn't invited to the Oscars this year?"What the hell are you talking about? Cruise was not only invited to this year's Oscars, but he got solid air time when he presented the Jean Hershold Humanitarian Award to Sherry Lansing...
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You know he does
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I can see Cruise now, running around bloodied amidst the rubble of urban post-war decay, with one of those scientology electrometers that measures nothing.
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...can best be explained this way. Once, a friend jokingly critiqued my rock band and said, "You guys would be great, if you just changed the words a bit, and the music." Superman Returns might have triumphed, if only they'd gotten the story right, not raped the Superman mythos (the super-kid, the super-voyeurism), done the script right, some decent support cast, and some action sequences every hour.
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I love the theatre.
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...and staunchly deny the consequent claims of my idiocy suggested by one of my fellow posters. Bring on the Singer directed SR2!
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but that doesn't diminish your idiocy (heh). Superman Returns was the biggest let down of last year. It made X3 look like Empire Strikes Back. (I hope there are no typo's in this now that I've called someone stupid)
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...one could say the use of the apostrophe in "typo's" indicates the possessive, rather than the plural. But I digress. We've been down this road before so I won't rehash our old arguments. But I will say that the movie that can make X3 look like Empire has yet to be made.
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I did it on purpose. I actually don't know what an apostroth'ingummyjig is. Or what its for.
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"Superman Dies" - Seriously, how anticlimatic and boring was the first one? It didn't reinvent or breathe any sort of new life into it, and it was way too pretty to be gritty. The only good DC character is Batman and his slew of villians.
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Ghost Rider came close, though.
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If it's based on real events it's not likely to be a remake of Rogue Male. Probably the Stauffenberg attempts, but maybe the British SOE (Special Operations Executive) Operation Foxley in 1944, where British and Polish agents were to kill him at the Berghof. This got quite far in its planning stages, but in the end the allies were doing so well, they abandoned it. Also Hitler was making so many blunders by this stage a lot of people at SOE thought the war would be over quicker just leaving him in place.
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Okay, my first post. Ever.
Firstly. This is addressed to MCLXXVI. I love you man, never stop! But seriously, folks, why all the Michael Bay hatred? I mean, technically, he's fantastic. Put in Armageddon (I know some of you DO in fact own it). Now, fast forward to the (admittedly abominable) Ben Affleck-and-Liv Tyler-eating-Animal-Crackers scene. Freeze frame on the shot where he holds her up in the air, opposite the car and in front of the sunset. You cannot -- I repeat, cannot -- frame or composite a shot better than that when it comes to sheer visual beauty. Now, yes, Bay might have a bit of a problem telling stories. But what're you willing to bet that's the fault of the writers, and that since Bay is not a writer himself, he just goes with what he has to work with? Appreciate his films for what they are: Norman Rockwell paintings with big explosions and Aerosmith ballads. If you want to, just watch them with the volume turned down. They're very pretty to look at, you have to at least admit that. Lighten up on the man.
Now, onto Superman Returns. I for one didn't see an ounce of "gay" in the movie, unless one chooses to confuse the theme of alienation with one of ostracization. Also, the SFX sequences were astonishing in some cases. Spacey played a good Luthor -- he was menacing instead of goofy. Luthor COULD have been better than what amounts to, essentially, just being an evil realtor. Routh was servicable (that word's been tosses around a lot here, I've noticed). The story, I thought was engaging. The only thing the movie misfired on -- and I'll agree with whoever said this above -- was the "missing" pre-existing relationship between Lois and Clark, and I blame that on Singer and Bosworth: she needed to ape Margot Kidder if not come up with her own spunky adverturess, and Singer needed to either write her a better part or let her ad lib banter with Clark. The super-kid is a matter of pure storytelling and philosophical taste. Do you prefer your mythical story-arcs to be based upon the Questing Hero, or do you like Passing the Torch (dunno, but to me, those sound like sexual positions).
And oh yeah, one more thing, just so I can feel like I fit in around here:
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...some poor cunt's dick. fuck him and his wierd scientology malarky. him and travolting are a couple of homoboys fagging it out in hollywoodland. wanna c this cunt play hitler just to see him fucking die. it will please me.
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But are they cowboys, and are they eating pudding?
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GhostWhoLurks, you wrote "Anyone who THINKS Suerman Returns was good, or "serviceable" beyond a few modern SFX scenes, is simply an idiot. No exaggeration." If you don't like the movie fine, but to suggest someone is an idiot if they do is just well, idiotic. Different people like different movies for different reasons. I didn't think it was outstanding, but I respected what Singer was doing in creating a film that bridged the gap between the original and the new. Fact is, a whole generation of people that are young, dumb, and full of cum (what movie is that from people? Great line), haven't seen the original. Hard to believe but true. Not to mention all the youngsters out there under the age of twelve. Routh was great. Yes, the effects were great. The story regarding Superman's return was good in my eyes as far as his internal struggle. Yes, the subplots of Luther was weak (although the opening sequence of him was awesome). Yes, they could have cast a better Lois. BUT they could have done much worse too. I don't mind the kid storyline. I think it adds to the mythos. It's not like he's Superboy or anything. He used that power only during an emotional rage. Anyway, I liked it for those reasons (HATED the Jimmy Olsen they had though!). Now that the story has been reintroduced, this second flick can focus on Superman being badass... hopefully.
Regarding Tom Cruise, I really blame the media and the people that fell into that hole. One thing about us (or is it "we"?) Americans, we love to build our idols up, but we love to tear them down even moreso. Yeah, he hopped on a couhc on Oprah. But he was playing up to the GIDDY AS HELL female audience that was gushing over him and cheering and climaxing at his meer presence (gotta love those Oprah audiences). He was playing up to them and yeah, he took it too far. Looked stupid. But if the media hadn't put it on the front pages of every magazine and tv show... this all would not have happened. And then there was his words defying anyone that takes drugs for mental problems. Hey, he's got his opinion. Hey, he may have taken it too far. I agree with him on much of what he says but would never attack anyone who thought otherwise.
Anyway, I just think the media coverage that bombarded us over and over and also took a lot of thing out of context and what not has created this Tom hate monster. Before that, hardly anyone on here had a problem with him. He's a talented actor and known and respected as one of the hardest working individuals in the industry. That's my POV.
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Personally, I don't have any beef with Tom's whacko behavior. But I do have a problem with his religion. Normally I do not discriminate based on religion, not at all. As a for instance, I've got friends who are Christian, Athiest, and in between. But Scientology is not religion, and it is not science. It is a tax shelter devised by a crazed old man named L. Ron Hubbard. It brainwashes and enslaves and -- when the situation "calls" for it -- actually tortures people using tactics that would make Al Queda (and our own government operatives) blush. On a side note, Scientology actually came into existence via a bet between L. Ron and some other sci-fi writers of his day. They made a bet on who could create a religion ... L. Ron not only won (sort of; I reiterate that Scientology is not a religion), but he has conquered the minds (and wallets) of a few hundred thousand poor lost brainless people. I'm glad he's dead.
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i was just at the churchill museum in london and THERE'S a fascinating WWII goldmine, not the nazi song-and-dance yet again. so whoever posted about doing a churchill pic, i'm with you. anyhow, nothing will ever be quite as excellent as indy standing right in front of hitler, close enough to choke a bitch, and instead gets him to autograph the grail diary. i can see tom, jaw clenched, eyelids a-quiver, perhaps muttering in a fake british accent, stuffed into uniform, desperately attempting to make us believe he belongs in the 1940s. nice try, pal.
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Much has been written about it, but much is not understood about it either. You can be a Christian, Muslim, Jew, or whatever and still practice Scientology. The practices of helping with depression, learning disabilities, etc. have proven to be helpful to many people, no different than psychiatry or New Age meditation and/or Asian healing methods like acupuncture, etc. These aren't the whacked out machines that you have to use like many people say regarding Scientology. These are steps of thinking, breaking down patterns of thought, diet, etc. It's a noted exception to seeing a shrink, or seeing an herbalist, etc. I know it sounds like I practice the faith... I don't. My mom is a pastor and went through many years of research regarding other religions, etc. She learned a lot about it... beyond media and public outlets. From the source. I don't agree with the eventual reasoning of people having to pay a certain amount of money to get to a certain level to attain certain knowledge of practices, but if you think about it, money practice-wise, it's pretty close to how the Catholic church used to be and still is in certain countries, communities, etc. Not as direct mind you, but money is big in the church. People think it's nothing more than a whacked out cult that brain wash people. People who think that have relied on the media's interpretation, or just haven't researched it from the source. Yeah, Hubbard had some "out there" ideas regarding aliens, etc. But Scientology in general really doesn't focus on that at all. Some do, yes. But overall the practices are just different approaches to healing. Again, no different than herbalists, psychiatry, acupuncture, etc. I've known many people that have gone through the early stages to get help with learning disabilities or depression... and for most of them it has worked. And these are people that still go to a Christian church, etc. I don't think of it as a religion at all, in diety terms or whatever. Just a way of thinking. Drugs, for the most part, can help people, but they are overused at a dangerous rate... many untested in the long run... and many just mask the effects people are feeling, which in many ways is good so as to avoid a bi-polar suicide attempt or something. Anyway, just thought I'd offer what I've heard from someone who's studied it from the source.
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raped the greatest generation enough yet?
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RESPECT THE CUNT! and all is well with the world
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Don't get all the hate. Roman Polanski commits statutory rape, and Hollywood gives him an Oscar. Tom Cruise jumps on Oprah's couch and gets ostracized. Granted, some of his beliefs are out there (although I agree with some of what he says to an extent), but it's not like he's out running around coked up or throwing telephones at bellhops. In any event, he seems passionate about making movies and while not everything he does is a home run, I never get the impression that he does something just for the paycheck. That's enough for me.
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he was at a party at jack's house where you CANNOT tell me that jack himself wasn't fucking a coked-out 13 year old girl. didn't anybody see 'boogie nights'? tom gets hate because he is betraying our collective love for his particular brand of character-playing by proving himself an alien-worshiping ignoramus who berates people publicly for taking medication instead of vitamins. ignoramus!
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Most films Brad is just being Brad. But he has the ability to go beyond that. A great example was his role in 12 monkeys. Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise as you said. .
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When you get to the higher levels of Scientology you learn their secret doctrine and it is EXACTLY what they said in South Park. Matt and Trey didn't even have to take ANY dramatic license on that Xenu story whatsoever, it is that crazy. The reason Christianity and Scientology are incompatible is because you find out that Jesus and God don't exist, they're all part of the brainwashing from the Evil Lord Xenu 65 billion years ago. Go look up Scientology on Wikipedia and especially check out the "OT 3" teachings. That's the whole bait-and-switch Xenu part that they will deny to the death or at least they will downplay its significance.
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"I respected what Singer was doing in creating a film that bridged the gap between the original and the new... I don't mind the kid storyline. I think it adds to the mythos..." How? By portraying Superman as an ass who (A) breaks his promise to the President never to abandon us again (in Superman II) by leaving Earth to "find" Krypton, which everyone KNOWS blew up decades ago, leaving only radioactive rubble which can KILL HIM and (B) leaves Lois Lane PREGNANT before he goes, only to return and upon finding out he has a son, simply says "I'll be around"??? Sorry, bud, but that AIN'T Superman! That's a SNL parody. AGAIN, I state: Anyone who thinks that Superman Returns was a great movie, outside of updated SFX, is an IDIOT. You may not think you are, but idiots rarely do.
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It was dreadful. Short of dressing superman in pink with a flourescent green cock sprayed on his cape and having him fight giant spiders. Mind you, at least that has comedy value- and is more true to the character.
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