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Moriarty Ponders The Motivations Of Warner Bros In Making SHERLOCK HOLMES!

Published at:  Mar 16, 2007 4:45:35 AM CDT

Dear Warner Bros.,

What happened?

I thought we were friends.

And then I see that you’ve hired a fairly talented writer and a fairly talented director, and you’re planning to make a franchise film in which you portray one SHEEEEEEEEEEER-LUCK Holmes as a hero.

Yet again.

How sad. How predictable. And how personally painful to me. Everyone who knows the true story knows that Professor Moriarty is the wronged party, and that Holmes was a liar and a braggart and a fraud. If you had any courage as a corporation, you would allow me to tell my side of things for once instead of simply glorifying that heroin addict and his fat ladyboy, Watson.

Here’s the reason I’m going to cry myself to sleep tonight.





Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles



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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:47:45 AM CDT

    Hope this is going to be good

    by mrfan

    Love Sherlock Holmes movies

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:51:53 AM CDT

    Christ, a film about Holmes, based on a... COMIC BOOK?!

    by jackpumpkinhead

    Travesty. As sickening as "The Quickening"

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:53:29 AM CDT

    Mori, You got Railroaded

    by dogsoup

    Batsiches at WB are going to rape you in the ass sans lube AGAIN on this story.You should go Mommy Dearest and tell YOUR side of the story yourself....

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:55:26 AM CDT

    And Watson will be played by Frankie Muniz, I'm sure

    by caninedevotion

    I've actually been reading a bit of Sherlock Holmes lately. I don't recall him punching anyone. Really the "Victorian stuffiness" is what makes the stories compelling, as you get the same information as Holmes, but quite like Watson, are completely flabbergasted by where the evidence leads. So yeah... Sherlock Holmes punching someone and having a swordfight... sounds like it will be a huge franchise... like The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That was huge and critically acclaimed...wasn't it?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:56:16 AM CDT

    Neil Marshall on board? I'm in.

    by boondock devil

    The man is already batting 2 for 2 as far as I'm concerned and I'd look forward to a really good Holmes movie.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:57:09 AM CDT

    There is only one true Sherlock Holmes

    by roderich

    ...and that is/was Jeremy Brett from the outstanding british TV-Series. But he's long dead, which is somewhat of a probem...

    Anyway, the "more adventurous" approach sounds bad. "Young Sherlock Holmes" for instance was awful. But as the direcor ist the "Descent"-guy it could actually work, as The Descent was the most terrifying horror-thriller in 2005, hands down.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:01:13 AM CDT

    im at the last episode...

    by datachasm

    of Holmes as portrayed by the late Jeremy Brett... and it was a awesome series. not sure if the sound of "holmes as a action franchise" sits entirely well with me... but if it was well done it would be more welcome than a ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake!!!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:07:40 AM CDT

    Van Helsing

    by cuervojones

    Remember Van Helsing...

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:09:24 AM CDT

    Love The Descent but can't help but think Van Helsing!

    by filmcoyote

    I loved The Descent so I know Marshall can make an exciting movie, and I like the idea of bringing Holmes back into the movie world again. He's a great character, so is his villain, Watson less so but meh.
    But still, an all-action Holmes? This could be good, and I hope it is, but it could also very easily be Van Helsing or League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, two of the dullest, trumped-up let-downs of the past five years.
    Re-invent Holmes as WB did Batman? One problem there, Batman was already an action hero - one that WB seems to have forgotten only needed re-inventing on film because they destroyed it with the excrable Schumacher films. I'm with caninedevotion above, the stuffiness, the Victoriana of Holmes is part of it. But I'm not so closed minded i'm not intrigued, just concerned that WB - which has consistently let me down on summer blockbusters through my life (more than any other studio) - won't pull it off.
    Still, loved Batman Begins so we'll see I guess.
    Oh, and I agree Brett was the best Holmes, hands down.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:10:45 AM CDT

    Damn Cuervo

    by filmcoyote

    you got in there with the Van Helsing thing while i was waffling. Great minds... as they say!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:13:22 AM CDT

    Still trying to forget Van Helsing but..

    by boondock devil

    I'm pretty certain that Marshall won't go nuts with the action scenes ala Sommers did with Van Helsing. I just don't think we're going to see Sherlock swinging from every thing he possibly can.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:15:35 AM CDT

    Variety Articles...

    by fluffybunnywhiskers

    Anyone else notice or have an explanation for why Variety's articles are written so very strangely? If you look at their articles they just strike me as being written rather peculiarly. Anyone else notice this? Or have an explanation for it?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:17:13 AM CDT

    Damn you Michael Bay

    by mcmlxxvi

    Damn you Michael Bay

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:24:49 AM CDT

    Holmes was a coke addict, not a smack head

    by traintrack1

    You'd think his Nemesis would know that.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:26:19 AM CDT

    fluffy - Variety

    by filmcoyote

    Variety has its own dictionary (they do you can find it on the website) so they write all articles in their 'style'. The peculiarity you mention is the fact that any sane, English-speaking person can't understand hald of what they are talking about. It's just pretentious rubbish so make them look special, like a child making up its own language. Variety is an offense to those who cherish language. Read Hollywood Reporter or Screen International instead, they are just as good, get more of the non-Hollywood stories first and can actually write English.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:36:31 AM CDT

    i'm sorry but...

    by stomm

    ..i prefer basil rathbone to jeremy brett.

    Lets hope we don't go into matt frewer territory or anything like the seven-per-cent solution, that was awful and holmes was plain annoying in it.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:43:25 AM CDT

    filmcoyote

    by fluffybunnywhiskers

    ahh thank you, yes. i have read articles by them in the past on few occasions where i notice they seem to begin their sentences with some misplaced nouns and such with no possessive, among other things. thanks again.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:44:25 AM CDT

    Moriarty...

    by boba fat

    That post is actually a good idea for a script. Get writing!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:59:55 AM CDT

    'The First Two Inches Are Cold'

    by darth hidious

    A cry to indicate the urgency with which one requires a lavatory. "I answered the urgent hammering on the door. It was Holmes, in the guise of a greek admiral, and posessed of a wild expression the likes of which I had never seen before. 'What is it Holmes?' I expostulated. 'Why its three in the morning.' 'No time for explanations Watson,' he gasped as he pushed past me towards my water closet. 'The first two inches are cold.' (from 'The case of the great big shit', by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:02:04 AM CDT

    Ben Affleck as Holmes and Matt Damon as Watson!

    by jaguart

    Sure, and a month from now it will come true.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:03:22 AM CDT

    What happened to Sherlock Holmes & Vengeance of Dracula

    by primus

    Why not make that instead? That was supposed to be a killer script I believe. Or did that turdfest Van Helsing bury it?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:05:25 AM CDT

    To be fair a new cinematic Holmes is long overdue

    by primus

    He's had so many TV outings, it'll be refreshing to see him on a big screen.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:18:14 AM CDT

    Yo Holmes.......

    by masteryoda007

    You should be excited that Neil Marshall has been hired to bring back "the Holmes"

    Doomsday will hand you your own ass.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:27:30 AM CDT

    To the person who mentioned Jeremy Brett

    by emeraldboy

    while on tv he is the definitive Holmes. On Screen the definitve Holmes is/was Basil Rathbone. or Peter Cushing.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:37:26 AM CDT

    Is Variety...

    by jollysleeve

    ... the magazine that refuses to start any sentence with "The," "A," or any type of pronoun? Or am I thinking of something else?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:43:34 AM CDT

    Darth Hidious

    by stomm

    You a viz fan mate? Sounds like a good profanisaurus entry lol

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:45:33 AM CDT

    Did Nobody in the US

    by emeraldboy

    See that Excellent Series the bbc did Starring The Late great Ian Richardson based on the real life Pathologist Proffesor Joseph Bell (i think?)that Conan Doyle used as Sherlcok Holmes. It was called Murder Rooms and superb it is too. From 2001. There were 4 of them. This was followed by a series of One off 2 hr tv movies that Starred Rupert Everett amongst others. Utterly Cheap, poorly acted rubbish. Tea time dross

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:58:11 AM CDT

    STOMM

    by darth hidious

    Oh yes it has changed my life!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:58:17 AM CDT

    Murder Rooms

    by supertoyslast

    I'm in the UK and loved Murder Rooms - particularly the first 2-parter. I was always disappointed that they didn't make any more. It was poorly treated by the BBC. But now that Richardson is gone no-one else could possibly play Bell. The books by David Pirie (creator of the show) are pretty damn good too.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:59:32 AM CDT

    Gonna have to say...

    by uridium

    That the series on UK TV with Jeremy Brett has got to be the definitive Sherlock Holmes for me.

    The BBC wernt scared to show his drug addiction and the darker side of someones personality that comes with it.

    They are being reshown on freeview over here and I have caught a few... they still Rock!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 6:59:55 AM CDT

    I've actually been reading a bit of Sherlock Holmes..

    by evilmonkey01

    "I've actually been reading a bit of Sherlock Holmes lately. I don't recall him punching anyone." In ( I believe) A Study in Scarlet, it is stated that Holmes was a boxer and an expert swordsman or fencer. In The Speckled Band Holmes took a bent fireplace poker and straightened it. I will get the exavt quotes when I get home, but this take is not outside the novels.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:00:52 AM CDT

    Regardless of medium, Brett rules

    by joelgee

    I've read the Sherlock Holmes stories numerous times, including the pastiches. The Rathbone movies never made it for me, especially with the dumbification of Dr. Watson. When I first saw Jeremy Brett as Homes, I knew that this was Holmes done right. Not only does this include the way Brett played Holmes, but Dr. Watson was given back his dignity.
    Furthermore, having read Holmes v. Dracula (forget the actual title), I would love to see that treated properly on the screen.
    Here's hoping that those involved in production do their homework and give Holmes and Watson their props.
    J

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:02:48 AM CDT

    Dammit!!!!

    by dr gregory house

    Wilson is NOT my boyfriend. I am not gay. I am all about the fuzz. Now give me some Vicodin. STAT! Double STAT?!?!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:15:02 AM CDT

    A way to avoid the "van helsing" syndrome...

    by flying_guillotine

    ... is to re-imagine Sherlock Holmes based on what he would be nowadays. Make him a londonian PI, keep the links with Scotland Yards, keep Dr Watson, keep what was rarely kept in the movies : addictions, near lunacy... Vincent d'Onofrio is a kind of Holmes in Law & Order, always has an answer based on observation and logic... Just take a good old Holmes story and adapt it in modern times...
    They tried something like this with "Zero Effect" (Bill Pullman), and they have the opporunity to do it better, and staying true to Holmes spirit.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:18:56 AM CDT

    Its A Box Office Hit!!

    by darth hidious

    Sylvester Stallone as Holmes!!!! Jaon Favreau as Watson!!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:19:16 AM CDT

    Its A Box Office Hit!!

    by darth hidious

    Sylvester Stallone as Holmes!!!! John Favreau as Watson!!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:22:55 AM CDT

    Hear, hear, all supporters of Jeremy Brett

    by sepulchrave

    What a fine Holmes he was; listless, then bounding about with manic energy; crowing with sudden laughter, barking in rage, curled up with his pipe for hours pondering. And don't forget his two excellent Watsons: David Burke and Edward Hardwicke. You need a good Watson, not a buffoon, to make a good Holmes.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:27:20 AM CDT

    Holmes also thrashed the living shit out of a ruffian

    by sepulchrave

    in The Solitary Cyclist. The man was a dirty, ginger-mustached bounder who threatened ladies' honor, the cad.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:36:36 AM CDT

    Peter Dinklage for Holmes!

    by triplefive

    and Michael Clarke Duncan for Watson.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:40:18 AM CDT

    Rathbone over Brett

    by mowgliworf

    Jeremy Brett was ok...for a tv Holmes. The real king was Basil Rathbone. Check out the 14 films in which he protrayed Holmes and you'll agree. The movies themselves didnt portray the heroin angle, but aside from that they were spot on!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:51:03 AM CDT

    Hugh Laurie for Holmes

    by badboymason

    He already plays him so well in the heavily Holmes-inspired "House".

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:51:59 AM CDT

    Will they play up Holmes' cocaine habit?

    by spyguy

    'Twould be interesting if they did, but I really don't see it happening. I'm not sure who should be the new Holmes, however...Gerard Butler, maybe?

    Oh, and Basil Rathbone pwns Jeremy Brett. Always has, always will.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:01:53 AM CDT

    Not everything works as a movie

    by kuryakin

    When filmed, the Sherlock Holmes stories work best as hour long TV shows, allowing the characters to unfold rather than throwing everything at the screen in one bite. Also the Brett show allowed him to be a tough guy on occasion but mostly an intellectual, rather than the swashbuckler they seem to want here. Anyone remember the Young Sherlock movie? They tried to do something similar there, with a love interest and sword-fighting and guys - it was fucking bollocks. I doubt any movie now will be able to deliver a decent Holmes because from the article, the studio seems to want a franchise and a franchise demands spectacle. Holmes isn't about spectacle, it's about intelligence & attention to detail. Next they'll be trying to make a big screen version of Columbo, with Josh Hartnett or something

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:02:17 AM CDT

    Shows you how much Moriarty knows about Holmes.

    by photoman

    He was a cocaine and morphine addict, not a heroin addict. Heroin didn't become popular until around 1898 when Felix Hoffman re-synthisized it. Maybe Moriarty is still fuming from the spanking Harry gave him over his totally insensitive comments about Anna Nicole Smith a while back. While I didn't admire Smith at all, I lost all respect for Moriarty over it...showing that he just turned into a self-centered Hollywood type who cares little for other human beings.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:05:28 AM CDT

    Casting

    by gingeracrockford

    How about the following:
    Sherlock Holmes: JEREMY NORTHAM,
    Dr Watson: HUGH BONNEVILLE,
    Moriarty: DAVID WARNER,
    Mrs Hudson: ANNETTE CROSBIE,
    Inspector Lestrade: TIMOTHY SPALL,
    Mycroft Holmes: STEPHEN FRY

    I also think Richard E Grant would be a good Holmes. He played Stapleton in the most recent Hound of the Baskervilles on TV and it was abundantly clear that he was much better suited to Holmes than Richard Roxburgh, who played the role. Of course noone will ever touch Rathbone in the role, but that's no reason to put the great detective out to pasture for good.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:07:57 AM CDT

    true story

    by omarthesnake

    years ago, I was working as a clerk at Suncoast Video. Customer comes in looking for a Sherlock Holmes video for her brother-in-law. I show her our selection -- mainly, the Basil Rathbone and Jeremy Brett movies. What's the difference, she asks. I explain that the Rathbone ones were theatrical films mostly in the 1940s. And the Brett films, they were made for British TV. She wrinkles her nose and says "But are they in English?"

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:08:32 AM CDT

    Michael Caine as Holmes

    by tonagan

    And Ben Kingsley as "The Crime Doctor". Fighting their nemesis Arty Morty...

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:09:25 AM CDT

    curious about rathbone fans

    by joelgee

    Just wondering how many of the Rathbone fans actually read the Holmes stories or is their point of reference the inferior Holmes movies w/Rathbone? Just wondering.
    J

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:16:26 AM CDT

    Whats your view?

    by darth hidious

    Just wondering what you all thought of Rupert Everett as Holmes in 'The Case Of The Silk Stocking' I got my own VHS/DVD shop and this always sells out straight away on DVD - To be honest anything Sherlock Holmes (whoever the actor) is a great seller for me!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:17:04 AM CDT

    Caine

    by kuryakin

    He already did that terrible movie where Holmes was a stupid self -promoter and Watson was the brains behind it all. So he doesn't get a second shot. Actually I thought Rupert Everett was pretty good in that BBC thing he did as Holmes. Why not cancel the whole thing and do a Rome spin-off with Vorenus & Titus Pullo going around solving crimes? There'd be plenty of punching and swordfighting in that.And lots and lots of lovely bloodspray

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:17:30 AM CDT

    Guilty

    by mister man

    I grew up watching Rathbone as a kid - late show - and loved him. I have never read the novels. Regardless, this sounds like tripe - utter garbage. Expected, though. There have been some interesting "versions" through the years.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:18:16 AM CDT

    Joelgee: Yeah, I've read the Doyle stories...

    by spyguy

    ...and Rathbone's still better as Holmes. The problem is, the films (especially when set in WWII) are "inferior" mostly because of the depiction of Watson and plot inaccuracies when compared to Doyle's works. On the other hand, those films have considerably more charm than the Brett TV series and the earliest of the Rathbone films are extremely entertaining. Yeah, Nigel Bruce's Watson was far too bumbling, but he and Rathbone had incredible chemistry together.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:23:22 AM CDT

    Let us not forget....

    by mister man

    "The Return of Sherlock Holmes" (TV 1987) - "Sherlock Holmes is brought back to life by Watson's female decendent after being cryogentically frozen for eighty years ." We've passed "beating a dead horse" by 20 years.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:26:01 AM CDT

    Basil Rathbone...

    by roderich

    was another very good Holmes, the nearly best beside Cushing, but not on par with Jeremy Brett. And the Rathbone Holmes-movies? Come on, Holmes fighting-Nazi-propaganda-crap with his superstupid sidekick Watson, are you serious when comparing that nonsense with the Brett-TV-Series?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:35:08 AM CDT

    IS IT A SKEIN? WHAT ARE THE NEW BOFFO SKEINS?

    by zarles

    God, I fucking hate Variety.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:41:32 AM CDT

    In the past twenty years or more there have been the

    by emeraldboy

    following: Basil The great mouse detective, the adventures of Shirley Holmes, Young Sherlock Directed by Barry Levinson, produced by the Berg and of course Granada tvs legendary Sherlock Holmes Starring Brett. Movie /trivia Buffs will of course know that Brett was also a very fine singer and dancer. The highlight of My Fair lady is Brett's magnificent and soaring performance of Street where you live, did anyone see the london based stage show from two decades ago. Or read bretts biography.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 8:52:11 AM CDT

    SHIA LA BEOUF AS HOLMES

    by pound sand

    How about a Bollywood version of Sherlock Holmes? Or do the whole thing in Aramaic?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 9:00:12 AM CDT

    Sherrrrrrlock

    by calnorso

    Sounds promising, especially the parts where is says they'll play up his bare-knuckle boxing skills and his sword craft

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  • Mar 16, 2007 9:01:48 AM CDT

    Moriarty as Victim?

    by haildahypnotoad

    Now we all know that Moriarty is the dispicable and murderous Rathe a.k.a Eh Tar from Young Sherlock Holmes. I mean come on the guy bathes young virgins in hot wax while dressed as a giant dog. That's EVIL!!!!(and just a little bit kinky)

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  • Mar 16, 2007 9:36:10 AM CDT

    I just watched The Great Mouse Detective a few days ago

    by osmosis jones

    Weird coincidence. Yeah, turning Holmes into a butt-whupping victorian Batman knockoff will ruin the character. You'd think with the 500 CSI shows on the air that they'd trust the sleuthing element to be enough of a draw for fans.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 9:52:01 AM CDT

    A Holmes 'reinvention'?

    by avert therapy

    For the love of god... this is going to end up as some quasi-Victorian Disney world like LXG.

    Brett was Holmes, even Doyle approved of his portrayal (through a medium of course).

    Why don't they just give Rob Thomas the money and let him get on with VM.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:03:37 AM CDT

    Come on, Brett was just "OK"

    by mowgliworf

    He really hammed it up. Super ham. More faithful to the stories? Yeah, but that doesn't make him a better actor.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:04:24 AM CDT

    How about a time travel crossover?

    by gotta eat

    Sherlock Holmes vs Adrian Monk! And we all know the winner!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:06:49 AM CDT

    Bullet time + wire-fu + cocaine + gaslight London

    by doctor_sin

    "Elementary, Watson - I know kung fu!"I don't know. In Doyle's stories Holmes is just as quick to engage in fisticuffs as use his mind. But, he's not some action hero - he just knows how the underworld operates.I just hope we don't see Victorian-Steampunk body armor with rubber nipples.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:07:48 AM CDT

    Sherlock Holmes VS House

    by doctor_sin

    "You limey cocksucker, get the hell out of my hospital!"

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:13:17 AM CDT

    Sherlock Holmes VS Law and Order: SVU

    by doctor_sin

    "This woman was raped, Mr. Holmes.""Hmph. She is dressed like a trollop - no doubt she was seeking the illicit company of a man.""You're not saying she was asking for it?!?""She is a painted Jezebel."

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:26:41 AM CDT

    Mouse Detective

    by mister man

    Interesting side-note...at the last minute, Disney changed the name from "Basil of Baker Street" to "The Great Mouse Detective." (Except in UK, where it remained.)It led to a series of articles contemplating generic names for past Disney classics. ("Flying Boy," "Deer," blah, blah.)

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:31:32 AM CDT

    The best Sherlock Holmes was...

    by wave motion gun

    Michael Caine in Without A Clue: "I've got it! His real name was Arty Morty! What the devil am I talking about?"

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:32:56 AM CDT

    Geoffrey Rush for Sherlock Holmes!

    by rbatty024

    I've been saying they need to make a Sherlock Holmes film for years. Now they're finally listening...to some producer guy who thought it was time to drag this icon out of storage.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:37:47 AM CDT

    I love crack . . . .

    by jaycieboy

    And so did Holmes . . .

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:40:51 AM CDT

    Samuel L. Jackson as Holmes

    by jaycieboy

    You know you want it. Lay off of my Fing coat mother fing Watson!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:50:19 AM CDT

    Roxburgh=Holmes

    by anna valerious

    Hey, he knows the role. Though I'm not sure about his boxing ability... And there's a "Van Helsing" fanbase out there. So watch what you say. >:(

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:53:47 AM CDT

    Chris Tucker IS Sherlock Holmes! Jackie Chan as Watson!

    by theuglybaby

    In RUSH HOLMES III!!!!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:55:56 AM CDT

    Who ever said Hugh Laurie nailed it!

    by kinghenryviii

    Nailed it - fucking nailed it! But yeah .... it will go to Affleck and Matty. Maybe they'll find time to do this between Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 10:59:06 AM CDT

    As long as Watson doesn't say "My bad".

    by splicer

    I sincerely hope not because I love the Sherlock Holmes stories and I want this to be great!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:01:54 AM CDT

    SHANGHOCK NOLMES

    by mgmax

    That sounds about the level this is working on. A two-fisted action Holmes reinventing his relationship with Watson-- kill me now. No one should make big screen Holmes movies any more, they're better suited to shorter format TV, even Masterbiece Theater messes them up when it tries to to do a 2-hr. Holmes (like that awful Rupert Everett one). These days, any time you have to expand the story to be big enough to support a 2-hour epic movie, it gets too overblown and ruins the cozy domestic side of the characters. What we need is a new Holmes TV series with Richard E. Grant.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:06:17 AM CDT

    Great!

    by brock landers baby

    They could have some black guy like Mos Def to be Watson.And they could have some rap artist who has a shelf life of 4 months to do the "theme" song.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:07:30 AM CDT

    It is overdue

    by liljuniorbrown

    I mean it's not like Batman or Superman where the subject matter is higly protected. We all know who he is but if someone could punch it up a bit and make it alot less stuffy (i love the bareknuckle thing and sword fighting) without going to outrageous and campy it would be great. I'm in line for another Flash Gordon as well,just leave Snake alone.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:09:55 AM CDT

    David Letterman and Paul Schaffer for Holmes and Watson

    by wackybantha

    Yes, I am so very kidding.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:22:04 AM CDT

    "reinvent the sleuth and his loyal No. 2 Dr. Watson"

    by alonzo mosely

    "reinvent the sleuth and his loyal No. 2 Dr. Watson in much the same edgy way"... It has been done to death, Holmes in every variation, young, modern, playing up the coke fiend, making Watson the real smart one etc etc. Instead of reimaging stuff Hollywood, how about, I don't know, imaging something...

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:22:41 AM CDT

    Mole At The Counter!

    by darth hidious

    'From The imprint of his shoes, Watson, I deduce that our quarry is a left handed doctor of unusually short stature, who has known prosperity but has lately fallen on hard times. And by the short, irregular length of his stride, it is apparent that he has a mole at the counter,' said Holmes.' (From The Case Of The Speckled Bowl' by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle).

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:28:35 AM CDT

    Basil

    by mister man

    Had two release names in the UK - both "Basil of Baker Street" (initial release), and "Basil, The Great Mouse Detective" (video/DVD)

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:38:02 AM CDT

    Holmes by Perez - Crazy Shit

    by ted_naifeh

    Has anyone seen the HOLMES comic by Omaha Perez? Holmes and Watson are reinvented Hunter Thomson style, going on a paranoid booze, coke, and opium-addled rampage through Victorian London. http://searchintodestroy.blogspot.com/

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  • Mar 16, 2007 11:42:31 AM CDT

    MCMLXXVI

    by brassai2003

    who's MIchael Bay and why do you damn him. Wait...isn't that from some TB from like last year? You're still around? seriously, think of something new..

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:02:16 PM CDT

    This is going to be an unmitigated disaster...

    by genro

    ohmygod. What a fuckin BAD idea. The only good thing is that Holmes is a public-domain character, so somebody else will kickstart the character before WB gets this flick off the ground.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:20:55 PM CDT

    "Are you crazy? Retarded or something?"

    by doctor_sin

    "I'm goddamn Sherlock Holmes!"There is no way this can come off good unless Hollywood decides it's time to make a good, old-fashioned *mystery* and not an action-suspense-thriller.When the trailer hits, if Watson yells "Nooooooooo!!!" I am going to hunt down the director.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:24:30 PM CDT

    Young Sherlock Holmes...

    by jackson healy

    Is basically what this is. I agree with you, SexyBack, they should have made a sequel to that underappreciated gem. However, with Marshall attached, I think this is actually a pretty good idea. What I suspect Warners is hoping for is a period James Bond. Great idea if they can pull it off.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:25:28 PM CDT

    holmes

    by shakes

    Get Hugh Laurie to play it. He already does on House anyway.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:25:48 PM CDT

    Cederic the Entertainer IS Watson!

    by spectre agent

    But seriously have Johnny Depp try it. He was similar in From Hell.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:26:39 PM CDT

    holmes

    by shakes

    Get Hugh Laurie to play it. He already does on House anyway.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:27:56 PM CDT

    Ted_Naifeh, that scares me shitless

    by doctor_sin

    Please don't turn this into an iconoclastic drug-road-trip movie! I'm gonna puke.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:48:46 PM CDT

    You know what is happenign!!!

    by dhamaka2007

    WB is becoming FOX and FOX is becoming WB.

    So now i expect shitty movies from WB and decent movies from FOX.

    It all started by firing Whedon from WW and goyer from flash

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:53:32 PM CDT

    Heroin?

    by pip1345

    I'm pretty sure it was cocaine.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 12:59:54 PM CDT

    SPOILER: Holmes didn't die at Reichenbach Falls!

    by doctor_sin

    It was Prof. Moriarty.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 1:09:58 PM CDT

    SPOILER: It was just a large hound with luminous paint

    by doctor_sin

  • Mar 16, 2007 1:13:22 PM CDT

    Casting

    by carlosalberto

    Hey, first post on here. Looking up at the Paul Bettany suggestion, that's a corker. Kevin McKidd and Paddy Considine are both fine British actors and both have the intensity to play Moriarty. Bettany would also actually make a cracking Moriarty.

    I have faith in Marshall too, his first two films are definate classics with myself.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 1:20:25 PM CDT

    I was watching most of the SH movies on TCM

    by decypher44

    the other night and thought how cool it would be to make a new SH movie now. Just please, keep it in the same era, don't modernize.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 1:26:23 PM CDT

    George C. Scott was a great Holmes...

    by eti

    ...in They Might Be Giants, and then a band stole the name. But it was a great re-telling.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 1:29:19 PM CDT

    They need to do A Study in Emerald

    by chrth

    That would be a phenomenal Holmes story to do. And it'd make Moriarty here quite happy. For those who haven't read it yet: http://www.neilgaiman.com/exclusive/shortstories/emerald.pdf (remove the spaces)

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  • Mar 16, 2007 1:29:21 PM CDT

    Holmes practiced Baritsu, not bare knuckle boxing

    by eti

    Baritsu a derivative of Ju Jitsu was popular in England during the time of Sherlock Holmes and featured in a Holmes story.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 1:34:04 PM CDT

    Orlando Bloom as Holmes

    by eti

    Oh, and the dancing Harry is based on a Betty Boop cartoon, right?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 2:05:26 PM CDT

    elementary my dear watson

    by iwontwin

    andy dick for watson

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  • Mar 16, 2007 2:14:41 PM CDT

    Snoop Dogg as Sherlock Holmes

    by mr incredible

    "Elementary, My Nizzle!"

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  • Mar 16, 2007 2:17:48 PM CDT

    Shakes

    by mentok

    The idea of Hugh Laurie...brilliant. That's why you can be sure that they won't cast him. Besides, the studios will cast kids, like Orlando Bloom or the Harry Potter kid, thinking this is a franchise that will go on forever and pay the college tuition of their great great grandkids. I don't understand why people casting movies and TV shows these days always think that kids only relate to kids onscreen. I grew up watching with adults in them. I don't remember any of my friends saying, "I'm not going to see Ghostbusters because there are no kids in it."

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  • Mar 16, 2007 2:25:07 PM CDT

    Which story was it when he was in some rough rural pub?

    by doctor_sin

    And he clocked some guy? I remember the Brett version involving a lot of slugging.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 2:28:15 PM CDT

    Basil Rathbone was crap.

    by sepulchrave

    He spent his whole time fighting the Nazis and other idiocies, wasn't a drug-addict and his Watson (Nigel Bruce)was mentally retarded. He just looked like Sidney Paget's pictures in The Strand: apart from that he sucked as Holmes.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 2:31:48 PM CDT

    SEE?

    by sepulchrave

    * The Hound of the Baskervilles (1939)
    * The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (1939)
    * Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror (1942)
    * Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon (1943)
    * Sherlock Holmes in Washington (1943)
    * Sherlock Holmes Faces Death (1943)
    * The Spider Woman (1944)
    * The Scarlet Claw (1944)
    * The Pearl of Death (1944)
    * The House of Fear (1945)
    * The Woman in Green (1945)
    * Pursuit to Algiers (1945)
    * Terror by Night (1946)
    * Dressed to Kill (1946)

    Only TWO of those are related in any way to Conan Doyle's stories. Fuck Basil Rathbone.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 2:44:15 PM CDT

    Michael Caine in Without A Clue

    by teamwak

    "He was beaten to death with a blunt excement!" Genius. I always loved that movie and still have it on video. Great to see some love out there. Come on Ben Kingsleys in it too.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 3:04:11 PM CDT

    Holmes Vs Cthulu...

    by fitzcarraldo2

    There's a PC game out at the moment which has Holmes tackling Lovecraftian horrors and minions of Cthulu. That would absofuckinglutely rule as a film.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 3:05:49 PM CDT

    Fisticuffs

    by fitzcarraldo2

    I think it was in The Solitary Cyclist where he chins some ruffian who takes a swing at him in a pub.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 3:09:42 PM CDT

    Fitzcarraldo2: Go read A Study in Emerald

    by chrth

    (I provided the link above)

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  • Mar 16, 2007 3:25:05 PM CDT

    Sepulchrave wants to fuck Basil Rathbone?

    by spyguy

    Who knew he was into necrophilia?

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  • Mar 16, 2007 3:40:59 PM CDT

    THE GUY FROM THE NEXT GENERATION FOR MORIARTY!

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    He's still alive, he can play it! And he was so fucking bad ass!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 3:42:28 PM CDT

    When does Holmes enter the public domain?

    by rgatz

    I thought it was life of author plus 70. but the article references the Doyle Estate. Corporate creations have up to 120 years of protection (thank you Sonny Bono), but I wouldn't think Holmes would qualify. I have been expecting a deluge of Holmes and Lovercraft projects.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:08:20 PM CDT

    Variety [fluffy and filmcoyote]

    by docbosch

    Variety is if anything a trade magazine. Of course, it has developed a larger readership then most other trade magazines, but that's still mainly its purpose. Other trades have lingo that is particular to that trade. Ways of describing things specific to that career or vocation. That is what Variety does. It uses terms that people in the industry or those who read the magazine regularly understand. It's been doing so since 1905. Sure, some of it's terms are odd and hard to understand, and some of the recently made up ones do seem pretentious, but don't forget that now common day words like "D.J." or "sitcom" first appeared in Variety. I'm also sure it has a lot to do with saving space in publication. Writing "pic" is shorter then "motion picture" or "picture" or even "movie" or "film". And the Hollywood Reporter is in now way preferable to Variety. HW tend to simply reprint press releases, while Variety tries to actually do some reporting. I remember a particular case that i wrote a paper on, where HW printed a very dry article about a certain executive and studio parting ways, while Variety wrote, on the same subject, the possible reasons why the executive had been fired by the studio. I concluded in that paper that, in in a small way, Variety tend to side with the artist or individual, while HW is backing the studios and large companies.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:27:44 PM CDT

    Holmes vs Cthuloid Entities = The Greatest Movie Ever

    by doctor_sin

    Yes. That would be nice.I would love to see Holmes gripping his pipe and facing off against a band of cultists who have opened the Gateway.Yeah, it was the Solitary Cyclist where Holmes chins some bastard.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:36:39 PM CDT

    Sherlock Holmes is a literary character

    by sepulchrave

    He is not fucking Superman; some bit of yank detritus to be sent off to fight for the American Way. NONE of Basil Rathbone's films bore the slightest resemblance to the literary character Sherlock Holmes except The Hound of the Baskervilles. You might as well say the best Dracula was the one in Van Helsing.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:42:56 PM CDT

    What "american Way"? The Nazis hated the Brits too.

    by doctor_sin

    Last time I checked, Hitler wasn't too fond of eel pie and scones.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 4:49:41 PM CDT

    Shanghai Knights did a superb job of showing

    by creasybear

    us the inner workings of the mind of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Compared to that film, anything else will be superfluous and unnecessary. And redundant.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 5:49:36 PM CDT

    Sherlock John Holmes

    by dr gregory house

    "The Big Dick IS BACK and he has soooo got a raging clue"

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:07:59 PM CDT

    WTF does "tyro scribe" mean?

    by orbots commander

    Is a tyro scribe a writer who happens to be a dictator of a small third world country, as in tyrant scribe? Anybody? What's with Variety's special words? Tyro, skein, etc.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:32:49 PM CDT

    Holmes should be: Paul Bettany, Hugh Jackman...

    by r.c. the "wise"

    Christian Bale, Guy Pierce, or Ralph Fiennes.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 7:37:28 PM CDT

    Moriarty should be:Jason Issacs, Ralph Fieness,...

    by r.c. the "wise"

    Geoffrey Rush, or David Bowie!

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  • Mar 16, 2007 9:07:34 PM CDT

    They've just cast Daniel Craig as Sherlock Holmes!

    by zacdilone

    This movie will suck sooooo bad.

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  • Mar 16, 2007 9:42:23 PM CDT

    Can we ressurect Jeremy Brett for this?

    by _kayser_

    We have the technology...

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  • Mar 16, 2007 9:50:37 PM CDT

    The Curious Case of the Manchurian Mambo

    by tonagan

    "It was a night like any other, when suddenly a knock came at the door. I opened it, and there were these Manchurians, doing a rather festive Carribean dance..."

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  • Mar 17, 2007 12:10:34 AM CDT

    Well, this could be fun but of course

    by superninja

    expecting Hollywood to write a smart script about smart people is a lot to ask.

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  • Mar 17, 2007 12:13:35 AM CDT

    Has their been a good Cthulu movie yet?

    by superninja

    Hellboy's attempt was right poor in my opinion.

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  • Mar 17, 2007 5:26:38 AM CDT

    Paul Bettany as Holmes

    by palimpsest

    Or Jason Isaacs. Watson? Paul Giametti. But as I'm not a Hollywood exec, why should I be surprised when they try to cast Whoopi Goldberg and a big animated dinosaur or some such shite. Heck, thinking about it, Bill Pullman was a decent Holmes ripoff in Zero Effect. Stick some muttonchops on that man this very instant, I say.

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  • Mar 17, 2007 6:51:16 AM CDT

    Hey sepulchrave

    by mowgliworf

    Basil Rathbone didn't write the scripts. That's like hating someone because they're short -- it's BEYOND THEIR CONTROL! As for Nigel being mentally retarded...I'll stipulate that.

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  • Mar 17, 2007 9:20:38 AM CDT

    I don't know what you mean by 'stipulate'

    by sepulchrave

    My one and only point is that it's ridiculous for Rathbone to be generally elected 'best Holmes ever' based ona body of work that only vaguely resembles the stories by which Sherlock Holmes is defined. What if the 'Best Dracula ever' didn't drink blood, come from Transylvania or flee sunlight?

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  • Mar 17, 2007 2:44:59 PM CDT

    Neil Marshall - Sherlock Holmes - Two Words

    by bruce t shark

    Sean Pertwee

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  • Mar 17, 2007 3:39:43 PM CDT

    Ralph Fiennes...

    by nonemoreblack

    would make an excellent Holmes, Billy Connolly for Watson and after seeing The Prestige I'd like to see David Bowie play Moriarti, they could really fill the screen with talent since a WB movie as they did with Batman Begins and the older cast members of Harry Potter, I'd love to see Gary Oldman, Patrick Stewart, Tim Curry and Richard E. Grant getting screentime in this type of film.

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  • Mar 17, 2007 3:40:45 PM CDT

    This movie will flop

    by feckdrinkarse

    Pretty much a certainty.

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  • Mar 17, 2007 10:29:46 PM CDT

    Vengeance of Dracula

    by dr.007

    Man that's the film I want to see. Let Coppola have another go at Dracula, and bring Oldman with him!


    Guy Pearce as Holmes
    Jim Broadbent as Watson.
    Bettany as Moriarty

    Christoher

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  • Mar 18, 2007 4:17:48 AM CDT

    Guy Pearce as Holmes. Or maybe someone else...

    by giant fish

    Holmes entered the drawing-room, clutching a lemon in his right hand. 'Now Watson, I'm going to take this lemon and shove it up your bottom.' 'But why, Holmes?' I inquired. 'A lemon entry, my dear Watson!'

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  • Mar 18, 2007 9:03:48 PM CDT

    It's too bad that even if

    by bunch-backdtoad

    It's too bad that even if House were not on the air, I'd still probably suggest Hugh Laurie and Robert Sean Leonard as Holmes and Watson, but since neither will get the parts because of the success of the show, here's my second string cast.
    Sherlock Holmes- Richard E. Grant
    Dr. Watson- Daniel Craig
    Professor Moriarty- Malcolm McDowell
    Sebastian Moran- Jim Broadbent
    Inspector LeStrade- Jim Carter
    Mycroft Holmes- Stephen Fry or Jeffrey Jones

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