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E! Online Says The CW Has

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There’s no official word from The CW, but E!’s Kristin Veitch says she has heard from several sources that “Veronica Mars,” my pick for the best TV series of 2006, will not be back for a fourth season. The E! story would seem to render moot a Friday-morning Hollywood Reporter story detailing "Mars" mastermind Rob Thomas' proposed plan to skip ahead several years, get all Clarice Starling with the show and have season four deal with Veronica's freshman year at the FBI Academy. The Reporter story even says Thomas "is filming a trailer" for the FBI version of "Mars" that will be presented to The CW. The final five completed third-season episodes are set to air in April and May. Read all of E!’s report here.

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  • March 15, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST

    That's really too bad

    by The Dude Abides

    It's a good show

  • March 15, 2007, 11:07 p.m. CST

    There's a nor'easter coming our way in S.E. Pennsy...

    by Pennsy

    and this news has made me feel bluer than blue. Frack the CW. Frack it up its fracking piehole. But what do you expect from a network that struggles to beat UNI-FRACKING-VISION, the Mexican network, in the weekly Nielsens?? Dawn Ostroff, CW boss, you are TEH SUCK.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by The Pusher

    Was a show that I had hoped would last for at least a couple more seasons. Damn.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:08 p.m. CST

    good F THAT CU...

    by iwontwin

    ..tie pie.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:09 p.m. CST

    damn the man

    by Nairb The Movie

    damn the man

  • March 15, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST

    ...and the sound you just heard

    by forceofgravity

    was the sound of my heart breaking. Fuck the CW.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST


    by Boondock Devil

    That news felt like a swift kick to the seeds. At the very least we got 3 solid seasons of Mars. Maybe they'll put out a comic book season four. Bet nobody has thought of that idea yet.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:13 p.m. CST


    by dashiel

    i was a big fan of vmars. loved the pop culture references, great casting, witty dialog, but above all i loved that it kept me guessing. i was really excited for season 3, but found i was just getting bored, the show never ended in a way that made me *have* to watch the next episode like seasons 1 and 2. i think one of the big problems, was the big "mystery" was dumb. it didn't affect any of the major characters beyond serving as a plot point... i neither know, nor care who the rapist is. i'll own season one and two, and when my kids ask me what happened, i'll tell them, kieth uses the money he gets from kendall to send veronica to stanford.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Cartman put Butters's penis in his mouth

    by George Newman

    Wasn't this already relevealed indriectly when the CW didn't have MARS in its listing when the new network was first announced?

  • March 15, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Thank god!!

    by jojo-pimp

    maybe we can finally get a smallville talkback on here...a show that has actually lasted a hell of a lot longer than this girl shit

  • March 15, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST


    by CatVutt

    Just thought I should go on record with that sentiment.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Bye Bye Nonica!

    by Sam Raimi's Car

    Im'a miss joo.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:25 p.m. CST

    So, they quit doing arcs why?

    by ghj

    Why did they force the show to give up on story arcs and do one-off episodes (supposedly to see if ratings improved) if they were going to cancel it anyway? The self-contained eps haven't even aired yet. This was a show that at least deserved a proper ending.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:25 p.m. CST


    by wackybantha

    As in real life.....things could have been different, but now we will never know what coulda been. Thanks to everyone at VERONICA MARS for a HELL OF A RUN!!! Thanks for introducing me to Kristen Bell. I look forward to seeing her again somewhere soon...

  • March 15, 2007, 11:26 p.m. CST


    by Boondock Devil

    I'm with you man. It's hard to believe anybody would watch a well written show with a cute female lead. I'd rather watch a show with a bland main character who likes to flex his man muscles a lot.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Oh, and CW?

    by CatVutt

    If this turns out to be true, you've just cancelled the only show I currently watch on your Netlette. Nice going.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    It was time

    by Jack_Bauer

    Quality went drastically downhill this season because the stupid cw made them do 3 arc's rather than 1, and given the choice between ending the show this year or carrying on arc-less for another season, i'd rather see it go out with some semblance of quality.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    But Hey!

    by CatVutt

    I'm sure we have PLENTY of great fucking 'Hunt for the Next Pussycat Cunt' programming to look forward to from the good ol' CuntWads. (Am I expressing my displeasure fervently enough? I feel like I might be holding back a little.)

  • March 15, 2007, 11:31 p.m. CST

    "finally get a smallville talkback on here"

    by Jack_Bauer

    Doesn't deserve one this season. Other than than justice episode and the one where chloe was kidnapped by lex, the entire show has just fucking sucked.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Sam Raimi's Car

    by The Dude Abides

    Didn't I see you in Evil Dead? Excellent user ID.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:36 p.m. CST


    by Jack_Bauer

    Is like the highest rated show on their crappy network. It's not going anywhere. Unless the masses switch off that is.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:48 p.m. CST


    by mrtwig48

    Mother fuck. Mother fuck. Fucking motherfuckers. Shit. Cock. Pussy. Ass. Dildo. Ball lickers. Mother fuck.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:52 p.m. CST

    This week on Smallville

    by mrtwig48

    Clark pines over Lana. Clark visits Lex's mansion. Clark meets a meteor freak or "zonie". Clark goes to the Daily Bugle to have Chloe look up something on the computer. The meteor freak attacks Lana. Just as Clark is about to save Lana she passes out. Clark saves the day. Clark then goes to his barn loft in the epilogue to pine over Lana.

  • March 15, 2007, 11:56 p.m. CST

    None of this is confirmed yet...

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    There may not be any official word until mid-May. The entire CW is having quite a bit of a problem determining which shows it can afford to keep. The problem with Veronica Mars is that it's been an expensive show for the CW (and prior to them, UPN) to keep on the air. The same problem is facing Gilmore Girls, Smallville and 7th Heaven. Frankly, my colleagues and I aren't sure if ANY of CW's scripted one-hours will return next season. (Supernatural may have a better chance than the others.) But Veronica fans should take heart: GG, Smallville and 7th Heaven could be most at risk because each of these three has already accumulated over 100 episodes for the valuable syndication market. Veronica Mars has not. The question now is, can Veronica Mars be continued for a lot less money?

  • March 15, 2007, 11:58 p.m. CST

    The US is filled with stupid people

    by mrtwig48

    who would rather watch Pussycat Dolls than Veronica Mars. They don't even get jokes like "Rats". Fuck all people who don't know the 50 states. You make televisin and the FCC.

  • March 16, 2007, 12:07 a.m. CST

    say it ain't so

    by johnnysunshine

    i mean, it's their best show by a long shot, though I realize its ratings not quality that determine whether a show satys on the air. I kind of felt like the fact that 7th Heaven and Gilmore Girls probably can't come back for another season, gave VM a better chance. We saw what happened to CW's original series this season. Do they really want to try and launch more than one or two new shows in the fall? Doesn't the fact that VM brings them more critical acclaim than any other show at least count for something? There's been so much set up of the whole college setting this season, it seems like a real shame if they don't get to now explore the world they've built.

  • March 16, 2007, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Save this show

    by oisin5199

    Really. There's nothing on the air right now that's quite like it. It's not a strict 'genre' show. I was really hoping to see a fourth season with Veronica in an FBI internship. If they keep One Fucking Tree Hill and cancel this, I'll be so pissed I don't know what I'll do. Probably just feel powerless and disgruntled.

  • March 16, 2007, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Advice on saving the show...

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    I'm not a producer myself, but here have been my observations for Mr. Thomas: 1) Scale the cast back to just five regulars, which include Veronica, Keith, Logan, Wallace and Mac. (Sorry, Weevil.) 2) Move Veronica away from the college environment. On-location shooting in an actual college is expensive. (This is one reason why Buffy quit going to college after Season 4.) Time to take most of the show's locations in-studio. I would suggest fast-tracking Veronica's internship with the FBI for the next season. So the episodes could rely on three "FBI sets": for example, Veronica's Cuble, Conference Room, and Crime Lab. ... I expect many here to hate these suggestions of mine, but honestly it's what comes to my mind as the best chance for getting a fourth season (at least 13 episodes).

  • March 16, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    me and colleages...

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    Let's just say I work in research for broadcast advertising, and leave it at that. (It's not glamorous or important, really.) I've mentioned this before on AICN and other forums I frequent.

  • March 16, 2007, 12:24 a.m. CST

    A new direction for Veronica...

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    When Veronica Mars first premiered, its concept was "high school girl detective." I think to save this show, Mr. Thomas should evolve the series (reformatting it, essentially) into "FBI agent intern girl". High school as a show setting sells. The law enforcement setting sells (of course). But historically shows set in a college world have bombed. For some reason, TV viewers don't like watching shows set in an higher education setting.

  • March 16, 2007, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Move The Show To Pay Showtime, Keep The FBI Angle...

    by Darth Fabulous it with Dexter and cross your fingers. The storylines have always been dark (i.e. rape, incest, broken families, possible murderous rich boys, possible murderous biker gangs) so why not put it on pay cable? Why does it always seem to be the last word when the best show on television gets cancelled?

  • March 16, 2007, 12:38 a.m. CST

    DVD Sales?

    by Darth Fabulous

    Haven't the DVD sales always been strong for reason the ratings have historically struggled is because everyone waits for the show to come out on DVD. Fox brought back Family Guy because the DVD sales were so great...yeah, I realize it is an animated series and costs less to produce, but the concept is still the same. Produce less episodes in a season (i.e. the standard 12-13 eps on pay television) and sell the hell out of the DVD. Why would this not work?

  • March 16, 2007, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Damn you!

    by George Peppard

    Thanks a lot, CW. Stay classy!

  • March 16, 2007, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Please, they should have cancelled it mid-S2.

    by AnnoyYou

    The show has been on a steady decline since the first, horrible "Donut-centric" episodes of the second season. Now Thomas wants to turn it into an FBI procedural? Please -- this sounds as viable a series makeover as Whedon's "Slayer School." Grasping at straws much? Face it, Thomas -- you blew your wad with the first season, and the rest was crap.

  • March 16, 2007, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Kristin Updated Her Story

    by Oozer3993

    She's gone back on her previous statement. It's not canceled, but it's in serious jeopardy. She's reiterated that they are looking at jumping ahead to the FBI years. Here's the full story:

  • March 16, 2007, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Time for my rant...

    by DanielKurland

    This is really fucking ridiculous. I can understand the CW being hesitant towards VM at first, that's fine. But when VM not only maintains the GG numbers that they were aiming for, but SURPASSES it, and get their all time best ratings ever, reduces the budget and does arcs, why the fuck do you cancel it? It met every single one of your expectations. I can understand that in general, the ratings aren't that high, but this is the CW, none of the shows are doing well (except for the reality programming). Then, you look at things like how it's the only critically accepted show on the network, and one of the few returning shows that has a lifespan surpassing two years, and when most of the pilots you produced were either trash or cancelled, what are you banking on? Virtually nothing has changed with VM since the decision to give them a 20 episode season rather than 22, so if this cancellation HAD to happen, at least tell Thomas, so they can end properly, because now we're going to get some fucking "Case of the missing bicycle", and some budding romance between Piz and Veronica, because Thomas was hopeful on a season four. So great. Wonderful. Barely anything will be resolved, the end points of these characters that Thomas had in mind will not be reached, and the show will end with a relative weak, 5 stand alone episode whimper. I agree with all the previous posts. Why bother doing standalone if it was getting cancelled anyway? And shop this thing to Showtime NOW. Maybe it'll finally get the respect it deserves, and not have to pander. Because with VM gone, and Studio 60 looking doubtful, what the fuck am I supposed to get excited about?

  • March 16, 2007, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Yeah, the report has been updated...

    by DanielKurland

    It's somewhat less bleak. I'd also be all for the FBI angle, and I know people complained about this year, and they're not completely wrong, but I truly believe that if Thomas could have done a big arc, things would have been better. Both the conclusion episodes to the arcs were fantastic, and if season four was the FBI angle WITH an arc, I think that'd be wonderful. Just figure a way out for Logan to still be around.

  • March 16, 2007, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Going back on my FBI comments...

    by DanielKurland

    A lot of you did make good points on the issue, and I think I kind of hastily decided I'd like it. The whole concept of her being there I like as an idea, and in "Dont Run" I loved the stuff with Lamb getting ignored by the FBI, and her gelling with them, but yeah, it definitely could be executed poorly, and it'll probably lose some people. Thomas hasn't let me down once though with any of the episodes he's written, so I figure I owe him. Veronica running Mars Investigations would definitely work, it just doesn't seem that different than what's all ready happening.

  • March 16, 2007, 2:25 a.m. CST

    In retrospect, with Lamb dead...

    by DanielKurland

    It maybe would have been interesting to have a season 4 arc revolving around his murder, and have him appear to Keith in the way that Lily did to Veronica in the first season. His total surprise death worked well, and I think it was handled appropriately, but more of Lamb is always good.

  • March 16, 2007, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Damn those strippers

    by DynamixRo

    The success of the search for the new Pussycat Doll put the final nail in VM's coffin. Hope the winner will get some exotic STD and die! That time leap and Veronica working for the FBI sounds really cool, too bad it won't happen.

  • March 16, 2007, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Boy, I Hope It Ends on A Cliffhanger...

    by tonagan

    Because there's nothing like adding insult to injury.

  • March 16, 2007, 4:29 a.m. CST


    by newc0253

    if this is true, that is. if not, then they're wonderful people, as ever. btw, the FBI idea sounds cool.

  • March 16, 2007, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Couldn't call it unexpected

    by The Selecter

    It was fun while it lasted, but the masses have spoken, and they don't like quality TV. If RT somehow manages to pull it off, the FBI stuff could be entertaining; strip the cast to VM and her dad, with guest appearances from their more colorful cohorts.<br><br>And is it just me, or is RT a rather desperate fellow, continually bending over to please the CW idiots? He's managed to make it work mostly, but at some point, you just gotta say no, and stick to your guns, even if your show gets canned.

  • March 16, 2007, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Tina Majroino's management folks have confirmed it.

    by Pennsy <p> :|

  • March 16, 2007, 5:36 a.m. CST

    Dammit dammit son of a bitch!!!

    by tie3456

    I knew this was coming, but that didn't soften the blow that this news brings. So instead we have to put up with the Pussycat Fucking Dolls looking for another slut-faced bitch who can't sing or dance worth a shit. Ugh!! The only bright spot I can find in this is the possibility that Kristen Bell will move on and grace us again in another tv show sometime down the road. And Mac (Tina Majorino) should get her own spin-off show. But who am I kidding? Only myself...

  • March 16, 2007, 6:11 a.m. CST

    those Frakkin Tards

    by radjac33

    I believe this was the only show that actually improved its rating since the merge. Well if it gets picked up by lifetime or oxygen I'll still follow it, till then DVD brothers

  • March 16, 2007, 6:31 a.m. CST


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  • March 16, 2007, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Herc will be in mourning for weeks after this.

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    He's never gotten over Buffy, so I fear for his mental health!

  • March 16, 2007, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Always meant to catch up on this on DVD

    by RenoNevada2000

    I never watched trhe show, but I know its got its fans. My condolences folks.

  • March 16, 2007, 7:30 a.m. CST

    She wrote another article saying the FBI thing...

    by YouIgnorantGeeks This came after her cancellation only article.

  • March 16, 2007, 7:33 a.m. CST


    by lionbiu

    Why? I can't believe they are cancelling this show....VM was SEREVELY UNDERRATED!!! But they keep shit like One Tree Hill and Smallville which has become so bad it makes my eyes bleed.

  • March 16, 2007, 7:48 a.m. CST


    by nemesisdarkside

    I'm getting flashbacks to last year, but this time feels worse.<P>I don't wanna kneejerk but....FRAK THE CW!, FRAK PUSSYCAT DOLL WANNABES!! AND FRAK PEOPLE WITH NIELSEN BOXES/DIARIES WHO GIVE AMERICAN IDOL 20M VIEWERS A WEEK ETC!!!<P>If we get a season 4 I'd be happy with FBI training, scaled back cast (the ones JJB mentioned) and a 13 ep season. However, bring back season long arcs balanced with MotW.<P>Please God, let their be another season!!<P>"Along time ago, we used to be friends....."

  • March 16, 2007, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Typical American viewers

    by NudeandAroused

    I live in a country where more people are concerned about who will win the next "American Idol," be the next "Pussycat Doll," or who "did" Anna Nicole Smith. The fact that an intelligent show like "Veronica Mars" is cancelled because of a lack of viewership does not suprise me in the least.

  • March 16, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    yeah, this updated article needs to be ... updated

    by newc0253

    all VM news, all the time.

  • March 16, 2007, 8:07 a.m. CST


    by Babyshamble

    Smallville is aloud to descend into a steaming mess and they get rid of their best show???

  • March 16, 2007, 8:40 a.m. CST

    That Larry Sander's DVD picture covers it.

    by Darth_Nader

    Is this to make room for more "Find the next PussyCat Whore" shows? Damn.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Boondock Devil....

    by jojo-pimp

    well written my ass!! I have tried like 5 times to watch this gay ass show, and each time, i make it about 20 minutes in, then switch the channel. I'm so sick of her and her damn crooked little cocky ass smile. That show sucked balls big time.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by optimus122

    The ratings this week dropped quite a bit from the first me by next year it will be doing horribly. Anyway I love Veronica Mars..its a great show and the FBI angle sounds great to me...she should do both , be in the FBI and run Mars investigations. How can they get rid of one of the few shows on their network that gets critical praise??

  • March 16, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Next Pussycat Doll = light porn

    by Trader Groucho 2

    The real problem with so-called reality programming like the search for the next Pussycat Slut is that it has no syndication life. It also engenders no brand loyalty for the network. Once the quick hit of ratings crack cocaine has subsided, the audience that goes for this type of thing flits off in search of the next hit of so-called reality at the next network. The audience for a program like VM may not be as large, however, it's a loyal audience that will reward a network that does right by them, and shun a network that screws them. The WB felt it when Angel and Buffy fans revolted - to the point that they realized they could no longer stand alone. The CW will feel it if VM is no more.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Maybe another network can pick it up.

    by eric haislar

    But at this point I don't know who would.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST

    I hope we at least..

    by eric haislar

    Get a terrific ending to the series. I hope its not a cliff hanger and we never get to figure out what happens.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:36 a.m. CST


    by landocolt45

    Man they really need to get their act together. They have so much potential and it seems that they don't have anyone who can market the shows they have that can make them a good channel. Plus you have to have specific TV requirements to get their channel. You would think that they would want to be more accessible since they are a new channel. I guess they don't care enough to stick around more than a year. I pray that Smallville and Supernatural don't end the same way......

  • March 16, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Damn It!

    by Atomik Steve

    Thanks for ruining my weekend CW! This is really crappy news. Easily one of the best shows on TV.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST

    One great suggestion posted here

    by Trader Groucho 2

    is the idea of 12-episode seasons for programs on the CW. It works for FX, TNT (The Closer), Showtime, and HBO. Some actors, including Michael C. Hall of Dexter fame, have expressed a preference for a shorter television shooting season (reference his comments at the Paley Fest). The writing on those shows also generally tends to be better, as few shows with 20+ episode seasons hold up as well as VM, 24, or the first few seasons of GG.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST

    the update sayas they havent cancelled

    by Mr_X

    and the fbi idea sounds good. its been below par this season, but its better then the majority of stuff on US tv at the moment. CW dont let one of your best programes fall by the wayside. VM funny, intelligent and damm good viewing. and you have nothing else on your network. as for smallville mrtwig48 has succiently written the synposis for every epsiode of that series.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Veronica..We Hardly Knew Ye....

    by The Greenporker

    By all means CW...we need more awesome programing like "THE FREAKIN' PUSSYCAT DOLLS"...Screw em' Rob...PLEASE MORE VERONICA! Make the movie..sell it to Sci/Fi...anywhere..I'll watch it on Lifetime!

  • March 16, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST

    In honor...veronica MARS NEEDS WOMEN!

    by kravmaguffin

    Stupid CW!

  • March 16, 2007, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Too cute

    by optimus122

    The scene when she is in jail and is doing the pushup's while staring into the camera with that look...damn that was hot , shes a great actress and damn hot tooo..

  • March 16, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST


    by Bob of the Shire

    When the official word comes down, I'll probably lie in bed and cry for a few days.

  • March 16, 2007, 9:11 p.m. CST

    This is not bad news

    by Itchy

    They could always move the series to HBO and sprinkle in Kristen Bell topless scenes and a collegiate lesbian lickfest with Mac, Veronica and that slut who got raped. Seriously - Kristen Bell needs to get out of Veronica Mars and do some more serious roles.