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Quint sees the TRANSFORMERS footage, too! But at ShoWest!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Harry just had to beat me to it, didn't he? Damn this spotty internet at the lousy Imperial Palace hotel! Oh well. If you want a second report on the footage, here it is... and the rest of my first day at ShoWest. I never heard from anyone at MGM, so I opted out of trying to sneak in to MR. BROOKS, the Kevin Costner thriller. Just seemed like a huge pain for something I'm just kind of interested in watching. So, I went to Caesar's Palace, met up with a buddy and smoked one of my last Cuban cigars over a Mojito. Nice and relaxing. Got me ready to attack the DISTURBIA screening at 10pm. I caught wind that there was more to the screening than the movie, which I already saw and dug a whole lot, so I showed, waiting for my Paramount guy to walk me in. I don't know if they read my earlier report where I ragged on them, but one of the Rogers & Cowan ladies came up to me and gave me a ticket with a smile. Extremely helpful. Maybe she's one of the friendly ones or maybe she's setting me up for the big fall tomorrow. Something involving rabid pitbulls with AIDS and a barb-wire toothbrush... Let me tell you, the Jubilee theater at Bally's is fucking nice. So much more comfortable than the Paris theater where I usually see all the big stuff. The projection is amazing and the sound was bonerific. And boy did the sound system get a work out. After a delay of about half an hour, a representative walked out and was very coy about showing us something special. Then he introduced Michael Bay, who came out to plug the release date, tell all the middle-aged to elderly theater owners that TRANSFORMERS was going to make a gagillion dollars and then left the footage to run. It was 3 complete scenes, with incomplete effects in some areas and some temp sound, but they were very close to being finished. There was only one obvious temp CG shot and some wires that hadn't been removed yet that I noticed. SCENE 1 Starts with a pair of military choppers flying over the desert. The burn in said it was Qatar, in the Middle East. On the chopper are Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, Zack Ward and a couple others. Standard grunt chit-chat here. Kind of funny, kind of showing of each of their characters. One of them speaks Spanish and English, flowing from one to the other, sometimes in mid-sentence. The others give him a hard time about it. "You know we don't speak Spanish..." etc. Didn't really come off as scripted, so that's a good thing. They land at a base and we see them interact with some other soldiers, Duhamel trading candy to an Iraqi kid for some kind of backpack thing. Then the ominous chopper is seen. Black. Angular. The audio was even distorted when the rotors were spinning, sounding otherworldly. Very cool little touch, I thought. Aaron from 24 is in charge of the control tower on the base and is alerted of the bogie by his radar guy. He orders it to deviate from military airspace. No response. He then sends some recon planes to check it out. They get a visual and report it back as one of theirs, but the aircraft number is one that was shot down in Afghanistan. Aaron from 24 says it must be a mistake, but one of the younger soldiers says he doesn't need to recheck because on of his friends was on that chopper when it went down. There's no mistake. The chopper lands. The sun is going down and the military surround it. We get a glimpse of the pilot, the shot from the trailer as the electrical glitch goes over his face. Then the fucker starts transforming. For the love of god, all that is holy... it actually made the transforming sound from the cartoon. My little geek heart went pitter-patter. The blades fold up and giant pieces start to shift. One detail I liked was that the army goes right at the thing. They don't watch it transform. Right when it starts to shift the guns start blazing, bullets bouncing off of Blackout as he becomes a giant robot. Bay hid the beginnings of the transformation with military jeeps, so you only catch glimpses at first... until you see him stand. He lays waste. I'm telling you, this scene was huge. And the old fogey theater owners? They erupted in applause as he started blasting away army guys with his arm cannons. Can you imagine hearing a predominantly 50-60 year old crowd that applauds a giant machine killing US Army? Blackout seemed to have a variety of different weapons. There was one arm cannon gun that seemed to shoot rapid fire mini-gun style, then his arm would move a little a bit, reconfiguring, and it'd be a plasma/EMP charge. You get a glimpse of this one in the trailer when Blackout first attacks and the blue-ish bubble of light erupts at his feet. Then there was one like a 4-shot missile, where they got all cork-screwy. This fucking thing wiped out a dozen tanks, 2 dozen parked jets and squished or blew up a ton of army men. He almost steps on Tyrese, who gets some kind of video evidence of the decepticon. Blackout notices and goes in for the kill when Duhamel hits him with a grenade launcher. Tyrese gets away, but the robot doesn't take much notice. He turns and Skorponok jumps off his back, digging into the sand and disappearing. Blackout makes for the heart of the base, rips the roof off and reaches in to grab the server. Wires immediately connect from the robot to the machinery. Aaron from 24 sees that the big fucking robot is accessing all the secure files, looking for something. Imagery flashes on a computer. He yells for someone to cut the hardline, but they can't. So Aaron from 24 grabs an ax from the wall and does the job himself. SCENE 2 This one was Shia LaBeouf centric and offered the first look at Optimus Prime and the autobots. This scene was more humorous than the previous one. It starts with LaBeouf's parents on the phone to him, bickering lovingly back and forth. He's about to be grounded if he isn't back home very soon. Then we see a parade of autobots come down the street, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Ironhide and Optimus in automobile form. LaBeouf runs out and gets to the door. His dad is waiting for him. It's a profile shot of the two of them talking through the screen door and in the background we see Optimus stand. His transformation was blocked by a house, but when he stands, he's taller than the house, so his head and shoulders come up. LaBeouf notices and tries to keep his dad from seeing it. To make matters worse, Bumblebee pokes his head around the side of the house, only a couple feet away from LaBeouf. Optimus walks to the yard and LaBeouf really starts to get panicky. You can see Bumblebee making "Shh" gestures and waving Optimus back as LaBeouf's dad ends up going back inside, none the wiser. All the autobots stand around LaBeouf and Megan Fox, talking. Optimus steps on a giant potted plant in the middle of the courtyard. "My bad..." Ut-oh... Honestly, as much as I hate that shit, hearing Peter Cullen say it made the pill a little easier to swallow. His little rat dog comes out and barks at the robots, then it goes up and pisses on one of their legs, causing the robot to lift his foot and try to squish the little dog. LaBeouf stops him... I think it was Ironhide, who know has his arm cannons trained on the dog. "You have a rodent problem. Do you want me to terminate it?" The Autobots urge LaBeouf to retrieve "the glasses," which they need in order to find the energon cube, it's in his room, so up he goes. Optimus tells the group, "Autobots, recon." And they watch the house as LaBeouf goes upstairs. After a moments searching, he sees Optimus' face in the open window. He jumps and then sees Optimus is holding Megan Fox. He puts her through the open window and into the room with Shia and enquires about the glasses. Here'll be a big point of contention with fans. During this whole exchange, Optimus' face guard was down. He looked a little... odd. His face was a little long. But you can see the edges of the face guard on his cheeks, so it's pretty obvious it shoots up when he goes into action. LaBeouf tells the autobots to keep a low profile and we see Ratchet accidentally step on his neighbor's fence and bumps into some power lines, sending him crashing to the ground, causing the whole block to shake. The parents think it's an earthquake. A parade of Sector 7, government SUVs race down the street, stopping in front of his house. John Turturro, Jesus himself exits the car and quickly walks to the front door, incessantly pressing the doorbell over and over. The parents answer the door and in walks Turturro being his quirky badass self. Government guys surround the house, looking for any signs of something... they obviously know a little bit. But how much? No autobots are around, obviously they pulled back. Turturro is told that they can confirm direct contact and he holds a machine up to LaBeouf. It goes off the charts and Turturro's eyes go wide, a great grin on his face. His guys grab the kid and his parents and the scene ended. There was a little more humor in the search in the room, including his mom interrupting and asking if he was masturbating. Sounds a little ridiculous and it might be, but LaBeouf was reacting so funnily that I didn't mind it too much. SCENE 3 This essentially the whole Skorponok sequence, the one I saw them film in White Sands. Skorponok burrows under the sand and his tail comes up, sharp, right behind Duhamel, like in the trailer. Tyrese sees it and shoots the tail, shouting a warning. Skorponok burrows again, this time coming up behind Zack Ward and piercing him straight through, then dragging him down beneath the sand. There's that slow-motion shot of the troops running and the decepticon jumping up behind them. They get to a small middle eastern town and the remains of the troop hold off the surfaced Skorponok, who shoots many projectiles out of his pincers, blowing this town to shit. It dodged the incoming fire from the grunts, rolling out of the way and getting quickly back up to retaliate. There was one particular shot I liked, a close up of the Skorponok's face as it reflexively shielded itself as it is being shot, these metal slabs shooting up to protect its face as bullets ricochet off. There's a whole bit where Duhamel gets a cell phone from one of the townspeople and calls into a switchboard trying to gain communications with the pentagon. Of course, the guy on the line is an asshole and demanding a credit card to complete the call, so Duhamel has to run back outside and get Tyrese's card. Eventually they get some arial support and everything I described in my set visit happened. They line up the robot, surrounding it and pointing their laser sights on it, so the jets can pinpoint where to unleash their load. They hit with missiles and raking fire from giant machine guns. Surely that got him, right? No siree. It's not happy, but it's still moving. Tyrese is in communication with the pilots (on the cell phone) and tells them to use the 105 rounds and they attack again, this time successfully. Skorponok is mangled, but he still works enough to dive under the sand and retreat, leaving only his twitching, severed tail. CLICK HERE TO READ MY SET VISIT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS SCENE!!! That's it. I liked what I saw... but it really only solidified my theory that we're really going to be seeing Michael Bay's giant robots being badass and destructive. Cullen as Optimus and that glorious wah-wah-wah sound as Blackout transformed were great, but I don't know if they'll be enough to satisfy die-hard fans. But, I think the movie looks like a blast, one of those huge movies where every single penny of the outrageous budget is up on the screen, showing you something you've never seen before, at least at a level you've never seen it before. It'll be a fun fucking movie. I have no doubt. And it's going to make a mint. No doubt in my mind. Tomorrow is Lionsgate stuff. Should be some goodies in there. Plus some Travolta in drag. Be back then! -Quint quint@aintitcool.com



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  • March 14, 2007, 3:12 a.m. CST

    fuck you michel bay

    by hif4life

    i got your back MCMLXXVI

  • March 14, 2007, 3:30 a.m. CST

    "My bad"?!?

    by Roll Fizzlebeef

    Great - they're giant battling robots that transform into vehicles, but they're still vulnerable to lousy screenwriters.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI

    by j-bot

    I'm not defending michael bay or anything but you're fucking annoying. Seriously. you must be some sort of fat retard mutant who has absolutely no life, because I've seen you post that on every talkback I've seen ever since they anounced michael bay as the director. I'm a huge transformers fan, but I hope michael bay gays up the movie real good because if it turns out to be good then you won't be able to complain about it and then you really will have absolutely nothing left to live for.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:32 a.m. CST

    There may be hope...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    But Megatron's face STILL looks like a 74-year old woman's crotch.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:34 a.m. CST

    fuck you MCMLXXVI

    by Seph_J

    as always.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:39 a.m. CST

    It's all about the freeway chase.

    by MaxTheSilent

    And that's one thing you know Bay is gonna go to town on.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:43 a.m. CST

    BAY GOTTA EAT!

    by BatPsycho

    he so better not fuck this up or the geek riots will rise up and take him out!

  • March 14, 2007, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay Fucking Lost!!

    by Doc_Strange

    Had to pick up the slack for the guy that used to say it. But hey, it's true. And with lines like "My Bad" coming out of Optimus' mouth, or whatever passes for a mouth, this movie sucks a big donkey's balls. And the bonus is that Tyrese and Duhamel star alongside flavor of the moment LeBeouf. Fuck this movie, fuck Michael Bay, fuck the idiots that made this movie happen. Fuck them all.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:29 a.m. CST

    GODAMMIT MCMLXXVI

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    havnt yu killed yourself yet, you fat fucking cocksmoker? looks like your one man internet protest is working swimmingly. fuckn retard.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:48 a.m. CST

    This T- shirt sums up my feelings about this movie

    by zombiegirl1979

    http://tinyurl.com/2humzv Michael Bay must be stopped!!! Ahahahaha....so true.

  • March 14, 2007, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Goddamn you, Michael Bay ... Goddamn you

    by kilpack

    ugh

  • March 14, 2007, 5:28 a.m. CST

    "Kevin Costner" and "thriller" in the same sentence?

    by BannedOnTheRun

    I need to lie down.

  • March 14, 2007, 5:59 a.m. CST

    michael bay, our modern day hitchcock

    by council estate scumbag

    he is our saviour and much can be learnt from him and his directorial skills. i think his twin brother is Uwe Bol. if michael bay ever came down my council estate he'd have the living s**t kicked out of him, his hands would be amputated so he could never direct again.

  • March 14, 2007, 6:04 a.m. CST

    PLANT!!!

    by nonsensical

    This sounds like it's coming from some sort of studio plant that really wants us to ignore the shitstream that this film will be and eat it up like candy. I'm with Yackbaker... show some integrity and tell people that all the shit you know is bad and that you are saying is bad is still BAD! Just because Peter Cullen says it doesn't mean it's not going to be cheesy. Shit, how many times have we seen films where a single actor is the best part, but in all honestly the film itself is total shit? Admit it, you know that a part of you died while swallowing this shit and if you claim that your integrity is still intact then maybe you're getting more out of this than just a neat set visit... I call PLANT!! Mostly since you sound just like every other plant that has tried the same shit you are now. Pathetic.

  • March 14, 2007, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Part-Time Pirates

    by Trader Groucho 2

    Where's the Talkback on this one???

  • March 14, 2007, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Don't tell me Zack Ward dies AGAIN!

    by DerLanghaarige

    I like that guy. Seriously!

  • March 14, 2007, 6:52 a.m. CST

    DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY DENIS

    by Pound Sand

    ...,and your Shia LaBeouf centric nonsense

  • March 14, 2007, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Yack, now why you gotta do that?

    by just pillow talk

    "Broderick seems to be playing his part... dead on."<p>Holy Shit. This stuff can't be made up.<p>Again, robot sequences will be very well done, and will be kickass. HOWEVER, the rest of the movie (ya know, the human element) will suck. If you are a young kid though, you will eat this shit up.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:11 a.m. CST

    HA HA HA HA Dog pisses on Transformer

    by Lost Prophet

    oh my aching sides. How funny is that? What a piece of inspiration. And that "rodent" line! comedy gold. <p> what a load of shit.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:24 a.m. CST

    PASS!

    by Blarney-Man

    I'm not falling for the hype. This will be shit because the scipt is shit, and because Michael Bay is a shit director. I don't care how much gagillions they throw at the special effects. I ain't buying.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Bad jokes

    by Affleckwasthebomb

    Does no one remember the cartoon? Everyone is wailing on this cause it'll be full of cheesy lines or whatever.. So was the cartoon.. I'm sure there was probably a morality message at the end of ever show. You knw "Kids, Optimus Prime says, Don't do Drugs." This isn't going to be oscar worthy but it should be fun and possibly in a bad way.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet, you're gonna love when Bumbleebee ...

    by Blarney-Man

    Pisses oil on John Turturro! That's real comedy gold.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet, you're gonna love when the Bumbleebee ...

    by Blarney-Man

    Pisses oil on John Turturro! That's real comedy gold.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet, you're gonna love when Bumbleebee ...

    by Blarney-Man

    Pisses oil on John Turturro! That's real comedy gold.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:43 a.m. CST

    THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE...TRANSFORM & ROLLOUT!

    by Err

    *SIGH* You should've punched Bay in the mouth as soon as you saw him.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:47 a.m. CST

    You know...

    by nonsensical

    young kids are about a hundred times smarter than they were 20 years ago. They won't eat this shit up since they won't appreciate being pandered to. Most kids I know just don't like being treated like they are idiots.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Bet I won't

    by Lost Prophet

    Does anyone (prefereably a GIANT ROBOT) get hit in the crotch by a football? or fall over in a humorous way? <p>This is like a CGI heavy version of "You've Been Framed" without the fat bird that presents it. <p> Funny? I nearly hurled.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    I hate this shit...

    by nonsensical

    I used to think that the biggest problem with this film is that it deviates too far from the source material, which of course is still a huge problem, but there is more. <p> Yes, some of the folks here are right. This film will make some money... maybe. Mostly because it's a summer film. Partly because it has the name Transformers. Of course that doesn't always mean it will do well. Can you say Catwoman? <p> I suspect that Fantastic Four 2, Spiderman 3, and Pirates 3 will blow the walls off this film. I say that because of the weak story, the unrecognizable characters, and the failure to make this film one that focuses on the Transformer's characters. <p> This is mostly due to the fault of the director who has so obviously failed to comprehend the idea behind these characters. To Bay Transformers is a coming of age film about a boy and his car that happens to transform into a robot. <p> Unfortunately, Transformers should have been a film that explored the universal dichotomy between good and evil as sentient robots from another planet wage a billion year old war that has spilled out onto the earth drawing humans to both sides. Those like the Whitwicky's who side with the Autobot because of their shared ideals, and say Dr. Arkeville (or some similar character) who offers something to the Decepticons and joins them to gain power. <p> However, the fact that the director and the screenwriter failed to understand the basic tenet of the Transformers mythos isn't the only problem that hurts this film. The fact that Bay's Transformers are vehicles that transform into giant robots instead of giant robots that transform into vehicles is evident in the poor designs and as such only emphasises the failure to comprehend this idea on the part of the director and his design staff. <p> Even if these were the greatest designs in the world the fact that they are unrecognizable as the robot characters they are to represent but are obviously and easily identified in vehicle forms shows how much influence the car manufacturers who are sponsering this commercial actually have. <p> It doesn't matter to me what Harry, Quint, and Mori say in their reviews and it's not a matter of them having to please me. It's the fact that in the last few years they have begun to show that they are able to be "bought" through set visits, and advance "exclusives" provided by studios and or directors that understand how much sway Aint It Cool used to have on the film going audience. <p> I remember when this site thrust shame onto the Catwoman film for deviating so far from the source material and the resulting poor review reflected directly in the box office returns. <p> I also remember when they stood by indie films such as Bubba Ho-Tep on princple alone. Of course the indie support is still there, but the courage this site used to show when standing up against films that would trash the source material is gone. <p> Skepticism and criticism of films that are so obviously mishandled used to be freely denouced as just plain wrong when reviewed on this site with great detail and explanation as to why they were a failure to the source materials. Sometimes you would even see box office receipts that obviously reflected this audience sway. <p> However, in the past few years this site has given the benefit of the doubt or even positive reviews to films that just don't deserve it, either based on a relationship with the director, or the studio. Look at the bias this site had against X3 and Superman: Returns. <p> Both films failed to truly grasp the source material, but Superman: Returns failed on a far greater scale. <p> The fact that this was a pale remake of the first two films. The transformation of Superman into a deadbeat dad/stalker. The disregard of the previous 70 years of Superman history by having Krypton destroyed in a supernova rather than a core explosion and the addition of a Superbastard child. Not to mention the branding on the costume and color errors. All of this was ignored as the loyalty to Bryan Singer lead to an endorsement by this site for a film that really didn't deserve it. <p> X3 was no better or worse but unlike Superman: Returns, X3 was condemned by this site because of the rush to release. Nevermind that Bryan Singer's departure from this film left it nearly crippled and that Brett Ratner took and did his best with a film that might have been better if he had been on the film from the start and been able to make changes to a script that so obviously needed a revision. <p> This site has lost a lot of it's credibility and I think those who run this site have allowed this to happen either because of their own lives getting in the way or because of a slow corruption as time has gone on and studios have seen that this site actuall had some sway over the viewing audience. Instead these people have been infected by "the spores". <p> To paraphrase Bruce Campbell, Spores are "a primitive, environmentally resistant virus produced by prolinged exposure to bullshit and capable of robbing the human brain of its abilities to think individually or creatively." <p> Obviously the "powers that be" here at Aint it Cool have contracted "Chronic Spore Syndrome" and unfortunately they've decided to leave it untreated and the result was a shrivelling of their balls as they move closer to being hollywood sellouts. <p> I'm not saying they are there yet, but they sure as hell are getting damn close and as more and more geek driven films are made and massacred in the process, this site and its founders need to show their strength. <p> This site should be the first to stand up and really show the studios that the geek core audiences have been and will continue to be the driving force behind these films and the failure to recognise this will result in losses at the box office. <p> I just don't get why Aint it Cool doesn't stand up for the culture they claim to represent and this film is just another example of how far this site has fallen.

  • March 14, 2007, 8 a.m. CST

    It's more like Herbie Goes Fuckin Apeshit!

    by Blarney-Man

    I swear all the scenes with Shia LaBeouf and his jive talking camaro are awful, as the car can only commmunicate through 80s pop songs on the radio.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST

    When does IRON-MAN show up in this flick?

    by JDanielP

    Seems like a natural thing.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Hey nonsensical

    by shaggydoll

    give it a fucking rest please. It's a popcorn flick based on a Saturay morning cartoon! Geez... go out, get laid!

  • March 14, 2007, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Hay shaggdoll...

    by nonsensical

    Is that an offer? <p> I'm not really interested, thanks though. <p> Now, "popcorn flick" or not if a film is shit, it's still shit. Shouldn't YOU'RE hard earned minimum wage be spent on something that's quality in both story and visuals?

  • March 14, 2007, 8:25 a.m. CST

    "YOU'RE"?

    by shaggydoll

    You've no idea how good or bad this bloody film is going to be so quit your bitching.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST

    URGGH HERE COMES THE FREAKS

    by lionbiu

    Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK YOU WERE GOING TO GET?!?! What was described seems fine to me...it sounds like alot of fun...which is exactly what Transformers is about.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Ah, but apparently you do...

    by nonsensical

    Even though I've more than a few friends working on this film, I've read the script, seen the misleading trailers, crappy production art, and have a pretty good idea how far this film deviates from the source materials in the name of 'splosions! over substance. Add to that a personal investment in the property because of my prior relationship with the parent company who created this and I think I'm free to bitch all I want.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Hmmm... flame war anyone?

    by nonsensical

    Which will get more posts. This or the Harry story?

  • March 14, 2007, 8:40 a.m. CST

    nonsensical

    by lionbiu

    ....your screen name explains your argument. You can't bitch until you have seen the final product...it may not be good (I pretty sure it won't be good), but the cartoons were dreadful and so was the animated movie so...it pretty much has stuck to the original source.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Explosions over substance?

    by Frijole

    Sorry, chief... but that is EXACTLY what I want from a TRANSFORMERS movie. Jesus. What the fuck is wrong with some of you people?

  • March 14, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST

    shaggydoll...

    by Err

    The reason people are harping on the potential crappiness of the film is due to Michael Bay's track record. His last and only good film was the Rock back in 96. The Island, Pearl Harbor, Armageddon, and Bad Boys I and II were not good films by any stretch of the imagination. Did they make tons of money? Yes. Were they good films in terms of plot, acting, etc? No. That's why people are giving Bay a hard time. Should they technically hold off comments until they've seen the film? Maybe. But part of free speech is their ability to bitch about the film before they see it just as much as it is for you to bitch about them bitching about a film they have yet to see. So chill.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:48 a.m. CST

    lionbiu - incorrect

    by just pillow talk

    People can bitch about scripts and trailers. Do you not base your decision on whether to go see a movie on a trailer that you saw or a script that you read?

  • March 14, 2007, 8:49 a.m. CST

    nonsensical

    by shaggydoll

    I bow to your senior investment in this movie. A man (?) of your apparent standing & you still have time to cry on a movie website about a kid's summer blockbuster - an organised man indeed. As for my knowing if this will be a good or bad movie? Never even implied that, my important movie-type friend. That's why I'm neither bashing it or praising it. But you are right about something, this back & forth is ultimately redundant. Bye-byes.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:49 a.m. CST

    that's funny...

    by nonsensical

    and I mean that sincerely. It made me laugh... I give the Transformers cartoon some leeway since it was written 25 years ago when cartoon writers thought children were idiots and felt that they needed to explain every single thing that happened. <p> It wasn't until the 1990's that cartoon writers realized that they were working in a visual media and started to write smarter stories. Still, it does appear that in that respect this film has stayed true to the source... the writers and director think we are all idiots and as such are making a film that will reflect that.

  • March 14, 2007, 8:52 a.m. CST

    nonsensical, plant my ass

    by dreamwriter1888

    You, sir or miss, are a dumbass. IS this your first time to AICN? Quint reports half the stuff on here! So lets see. He's at this film festival where he gets to see unreleased things and special clips and all and just because he likes something that you aren't looking forward to you call plant? You're a dumbass! hahaha

  • March 14, 2007, 8:57 a.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by lionbiu

    yes you can bitch about the trailer and script....but I just can't understand the emotional investment into a crappy morning cartoon which was made to sell toys. If this was a adaption of 1984 than I would be right there with you guys, but it's a silly OTT summer blockbuster and I can actually forgive its linear script. The dialogue will probably be awful, but as long as it's all tongue-in-cheek than it should be fine.

  • March 14, 2007, 9 a.m. CST

    Oh geez, I was making a point...

    by nonsensical

    I know Quint has reported on a great deal of stuff here, but this is one of the first times he's come off like a total plant. <p> Read the film reviews that come in from "plants" to boost the film and this reads just like it. Quint makes so many excuses for the footage he saw that he seems to be selling this film more than reporting on it. <p> At a film fest or a private screening, this story just feels like he got some sort of compensation for his review and I'm really disappointed to hear him say it. <p> Like it or don't like it, he's just really wishywashy on this film and that's just not like him.

  • March 14, 2007, 9 a.m. CST

    Oh geez, I was making a point...

    by nonsensical

    I know Quint has reported on a great deal of stuff here, but this is one of the first times he's come off like a total plant. <p> Read the film reviews that come in from "plants" to boost the film and this reads just like it. Quint makes so many excuses for the footage he saw that he seems to be selling this film more than reporting on it. <p> At a film fest or a private screening, this story just feels like he got some sort of compensation for his review and I'm really disappointed to hear him say it. <p> Like it or don't like it, he's just really wishywashy on this film and that's just not like him.

  • March 14, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST

    lionbiu - neither am I

    by just pillow talk

    But I can understand fans who hate it. Me, I don't like Mike Bay movies. As everyone knows, great action, crappy everything-else. Same as this movie. Soon as he was attached to direct, you know what type of movie you are getting. If nothing else, the Transformer TB's are the best and bring out everybody. PhartGoddPrime needs to appear in this TB too, or one of his minions.

  • March 14, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Farting Robots

    by Douche Baggins

    if these guys are the comic geniuses I think they are, then one of the robots needs to fart, because farting is one of the very pillars of the comedic foundation. And the farting robot action figure would sell like farting hot cakes!! -Farts out, my peeps!!

  • March 14, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Hey Quint...

    by RetroActive

    the AIDS comment was a bit unnecessary.

  • March 14, 2007, 9:18 a.m. CST

    HARRY 91, QUINT 61

    by nonsensical

    Which Transformers TB will win?

  • March 14, 2007, 9:21 a.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI is a legend

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    It amuses me how much he irritates the Bay apologists. And cut the "you should lower your expectations" bullshit. Jaws was a "popcorn" film but that doesn't stop it being a classic piece of cinema. Now I wouldn't expect Transformers to equal Jaws but its perfectly reasonable to expect something superior to your average Bay film.

  • March 14, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Well I'm out...

    by nonsensical

    I'll check back in a few hours but I have to get back to work. I have models and camera shots to finish by end of day today.

  • March 14, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    oh look! Another pissing contest from Bay Haters!

    by Datascream

    More trolls and whiny fanboys who will incessantly bitch about how they'll never watch the movie, but secretly have their pre-paid tickets rolled up in their Optimus Prime underwear. It doesn't matter how good the movie is, or how fun the movie is. They will go in and hate everything about it, just to come back here and tell the whole community how their childhood has been raped, and Bay should have his hands cut off. But then as the DVD comes out, they'll buy a copy and place it in their collection. Purist fanboys are so cliched and predictable.

  • March 14, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST

    The basic tenet of the Transformers mythos:

    by DerLanghaarige

    Sell toy, sell toys, sell toys!

  • March 14, 2007, 9:41 a.m. CST

    CHILDREN OF FUCKING MEN!!!

    by PwnedByStallone

    Pull my finger.

  • March 14, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST

    hands cut off is a bit drastic

    by Lost Prophet

    Just permanent unemployment would be fine. <p>This has nothing to do with purist tendencies. It is a manifestation of my hatred of overpromoted mediocrity. <p> BTW- a funny definition of a purist is: Someone with the taste of a true conniseur (sp?) and the sensibilities of an anorak. <p>well, it makes me laugh anyway

  • March 14, 2007, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Lost

    by kbaker13

    Where the hell is the new Lost talk back?

  • March 14, 2007, 10:15 a.m. CST

    QUIET YOU FOOLS!!!! HAVEN'T YOU REALIZED...???

    by Johnno

    If Transformers does well, it'll be our one and only golden opportunity to push for someone to make a ROBOTECH movie!!! SO, in conclusion...<br><br>YES!!! YOU GO MICHAEL BAY!!! RUN WITH IT!!! RUN!!! BLOCKBUSTER THIS SHIT! ALL OUR MONEY ARE BELONG TO YOU!!! YOU SHOW US HOW IT'S DONE!!! YOU THE MAN!!!

  • March 14, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Quint - did you buy yourself a car at the auto show?

    by Doctor_Sin

    Because that's why the Imperial rocks.<p>Oh yeah - thanx for giving us the word on the footage.<p>Now, as your attorney, I advise you to immediately head over to the Wild Stallion II and ask for the Caribbean girl. If she's working, get a few dances in the back room. $150. You deserve it for the hard work you put into your posts.<p>If Red Rooster Storage is still open, go there after midnight and ask where The House is. If it's still going, you'll have a blast.

  • March 14, 2007, 10:44 a.m. CST

    i bet it did look cool but...

    by Hyperion Consul

    what about that fucking suck of a script? i will concede that taken completely out of context, a five or ten minute scene could look cool, but the only time you really know a movie is good is when you're walking out of the theatre after you've seen the whole thing. i read the leaked script awhile back and yeah, this movie has about as deep a plot as 300. but where 300 got just about everything right, i'm afraid bay-denis and company will get it all wrong.

  • March 14, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    I prefer Arial support to Times New Roman support, too.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    It has a nicer look. But in the end, I would choose Arial Narrow support, actually.

  • March 14, 2007, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Shitty adaption of a shitty 80's cartoon by a...

    by Pdorwick

    shitty 90's director. Everyone relax.

  • March 14, 2007, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    by lionbiu

    No one is lowering their expectations...we are merely saying that the film can be alot of fun for children...just like the show was. Nothing indicates crap of Godzilla proportions.

  • March 14, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Vegas makes you paranoid. It is pure evil.

    by mr. brownstone

    This sounds fucking rad! Want see now. Gurgle.

  • March 14, 2007, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Change

    by Affleckwasthebomb

    You know I love reading the AICN TB's, it's fun. I like to know other peoples opinion, how different people view different things. Some times if you get involved in some thing it can almost become a sport. But I have to say I'm really glad TB's aren't in charge of the world. The total unwillingness to embrace change in any way would surely result in human beings still being in the trees. Come on guys give change a try. Lots of good things have happened because people have been brave enough to say, "hey lets change this up a bit." I'm not saying TF will be good because they've changed stuff but could you really be confident that the flick would be good if they hadn't changed the robot designs? would that make a difference. What if they hadn't changed anything from the source material? they'd have been accused of either being lazy and unimaginative or of just remaking the TV show. All I'm saying is the fact things have been changed does not mean this will be an awful film. Other stuff will.

  • March 14, 2007, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Damn anyone who damns MCMLXXVI

    by Turd Furgeson

    Bay has made 2 ok films, Bad Boyz 1 and 2, everything else sucks balls. Bay should be on the same exploding bus as McG and Rob Zombie.

  • March 14, 2007, 11:44 a.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI 4VR

    by montessaurus

    Seriously. Judge Dredd's Dirty Undies is right. That there are talkbackers that actually get pissed off at him is fucking hilarious. Keep damning Micheal Bay, MCMLXXVI. Even after Transformers is over. Even after the Transformers 37. I wanna be 80 and see "Damn You Micheal Bay" on AICN and explain it to my grandkids. Keep it alive brothrrrrrrr.

  • March 14, 2007, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Maldito seas, Miguel Bahia

    by CuervoJones

    That´s "Damn you Michael Bay" in spanish

  • March 14, 2007, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Personally

    by Lando Griffin

    I love the fact that MCMLXXVI never breaks charachter. Its an honor to watch someone so totally commited to their craft. It's even more fucking amusing to watch talkbackers get so up in arms over his schtick. May Bay forever be damned!

  • March 14, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    This movie sounds so cool

    by godzillasushi

    Just the fact that it makes the old transforming noise is fantastic. I picture sweeping shots of battling robots tranforming in and out of their vehicle modes while on the move. Now who really cares about the actors and acting in a movie when theres stuff like that going on *_*.

  • March 14, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    No good, no good at all

    by amrisharmpit

    I'm not intimately familiar with the TF's, but based on the scene descriptions, this sounds quite terrible. I hate it when writers insert goofy humor and pop-culture references into these franchise adaptations. It's unnecessary, self-conscious, and takes you out of the story. It also dates the film quickly. But maybe that was Bay's idea. This movie was made solely for the purpose of a good opening weekend so the studio can announce in Monday's Variety that a sequel has been greenlit.

  • March 14, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay Denis!!!

    by Hyperion Consul

    You fucking lost!!! I just had to get my original thought in there. Seriously though. Fuck you Michael Bay!!!

  • March 14, 2007, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay is blowing George Lucas.

    by Douche Baggins

    Why are Transformer toys being packaged together with Star Wars toys? And who would win between Darth Vader & Optimus Prime? And will there be toys marketed to adults? It's a can opener..zip,zang,biff...now it's a vibrator!!

  • March 14, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI

    by Bloo

    I'll be honest, I actually look for the "Damn you michal bay" comments, and the fact that it is all there is. I honestly think MCMLXXVI is an AICN staffer, but that's just my opinion. Anyways, when did Tuturo get in on this and as a gov't agent. well that just about assured my seeing this movie. Taturro is like Haryr Dean Stanton, even if the movie sucks you know his part at least will be good

  • March 14, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Nonsensical & Judge Dredd's ETC

    by Montag666

    I agree with you both. Excellent point, Judge. Jaws is the definition of "popcorn" flick, and it is a great film with great acting, and unbearable suspense. Nonsensical, I agree with you as well, and Quint does sound like a plant when he talks about transformers. I got highly suspicious after his second set visit (you know, the one where they tried to sell us on how funny the burning furbies would be?)and he talks about his uncomfortable exchange with Michael Bay? I hate the way this whole thing is turning out. The designs look like shit, I hate the fact that they have pupils (creepy), and at this point I'm not even thinking about the flames. And as for all of you Michael Bay apologists: Suck it! He has not made one good movie, and this whole thing with you justifying the ruin of a great franchise by saying things like "it was a stupid kids show", you just don't know what the hell you're talking about. While the show was no amazing work of drama, it was still better than all the other kiddie fare being served on television. It was imaginative and the stories had a great weight to them for being a "stupid kid's show", so stop justifying this turd with that attitude. I am terribly disapointed with all of you who claim that quality is not an issue with Michael Bay films since they all make money. You all sound like fucking baby boomer corporate shills. Death to thee! And as for Michael Bay, don't let me catch you in MY neighborhood because amputating your hands is child's play compared to what will happen to you. "Maldito seas Miguel Bahia" indeed. Long live Roman Numerals guy. Damn you too Don Murphy! Burn,Hollywood Burn!

  • March 14, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Fartimus Prime

    by Douche Baggins

    I hope at the end of the movie Optimus looks into the camera "But seriously folks, the real battle is Global Warming! Start using candles and poop outdoors, it'll help this big ball of wackiness spinning for years to come." Then he farts the Star Spangled Banner as the credits roll.

  • March 14, 2007, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Change

    by Montag666

    I expected changes to the designs. Fine. But my problem is with the script. I'm sick of movies written with morons in mind. That's what's truly insulting about this whole thing. The script sucks. And yes, I did check out the original draft, but it sounds to me like they stuck to it pretty much. I just hate the fact that the movie centers around humans, and stupid Michael Bay humans. All of his movies are filled with the type of people who don't exist in real life(and I'm thankful for that).

  • March 14, 2007, 1:55 p.m. CST

    I can get excited about a GIANT ROBOT movie

    by Doctor_Sin

    But not a movie about people having all sorts of interpersonal crises while GIANT ROBOTS get peed on by dogs and whatnot with a couple battles thrown in.<p>The script will be the lynchpin - it either holds up or not. If it masquerades as something it isn't, it will fail. If it proudly wears its genre on its sleeve, then rock on.<p>So, what craptasticular non-robot bits have been trimmed out? Do we know?

  • March 14, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST

    I love Michael Bay

    by Fuck The Napkin

    This movie will no doubt be shit but I'm going to make myself love it anyway. Go Michael! Rape away!

  • March 14, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Doc

    by Lost Prophet

    none- allegedly. The writers are saying that it has the same structure as the script we have read- which suggests that all the wanky segments are still there. For example, the oh-so-funny-and-not-at-all-hackneyed pissing gags are still intact

  • March 14, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST

    That means that Optimus will still be speaking Chinese

    by Hyperion Consul

    when he is introduced. i can't wait. i also can't wait to see the part where the x-boxes and mp3 players turn into transformers and start attacking people, because energon in this movie isn't a power source, it's a device that turns machines into transformers. does the plot sound better now? the people who write the fucking comic come up with better shit than this.

  • March 14, 2007, 3 p.m. CST

    Wow. We are talking about a fucking childrens cartoon!

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    You know I am with those of you who don't like to see your childhood raped when it comes to things like Lucas and his shitty sequels. I am with you when a comic book like Fantastic Four & Ghost Rider is fudge packed and ruined. But seriously for those who are griping about this upcoming Transformers movie you have to got to be fucking kidding me. I am fanboy just like the next guy but this was a fucking cartoon from the 80s for CHILDREN. I was one of those kids. Now I am not a Micheal Bay fan by any stretch of the word. However I don't think he is a bad choice for this type of movie. It's not like there are deep plot points here to discover folks. These are robots who fight one another. That's it. Cry and bitch all you want but without having even seen the movie yet it seems like some of you are just complaining to complain. All I want this movie to be is robots kicking ass. That's what it sounds like we are getting. So why the bitching? And as far as the bad cheesy lines go, honestly I expected it. Can ANY of you tell me who were Transformer fans that there was never a cheesy line in the cartoon? Fuck no. There were plenty. Bravo to Bay for making this live action. It's a huge undertaking to make those robots come to life on the big screen and not look like cartoon. From the footage I've seen on the trailers this looks to be a great summer popcorn flick. You guys are bashing Quint which makes no fucking sense what so ever. I don't think he is being an apologist as much as he is just being someone who was wooed by the footage he saw without bias. Sounds like from the reaction from the movie owners this is going to stomp all kinds of ass and I personally can't wait. Thanks Micheal Bay.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:08 p.m. CST

    WHY DO YOU PEOPLE PRETEND...

    by Nucking Futs

    like you AREN'T going to see this movie opening weekend. EVERY SINGLE one of you people that is bitching, complaining, whining, and saying how much this is gonna suck, are ALL going to go see this movie when it comes out!! I guaran-damn-tee it!! Stop pretending!! On a side note, despite the dialogue, I think this movie is going to be pretty frickin awesome. I know I'll see it the day it comes out.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    YackBacker and Lost Prophet have spoken

    by Doctor_Sin

    It seems that suckage is imminent.

  • March 14, 2007, 3:30 p.m. CST

    yackbacker

    by Montag666

    You keep on nitpicking all you want. When I went to see Independence Day in the theaters I was one of the people saying "cool! Spaceships blowing shit up!" Well, I got the spaceships blowing shit up, I also got lousy perfomances, stupid one liners, and tons of predictable garbage thrown my way. For those of you who want to see "giant robots blowing shit up" cool. But then why go to the movies if that's all you want to see? Buy a freakin' poster and stare at it all day and you will have all of your aesthetic requirements met without the lousy fucking script that this movie is based on!

  • March 14, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Too true, Yack.

    by Doctor_Sin

    I'd rather go to a legal brothel and spend $$$$ on sex, then send Michael Bay the credit card receipt and say, "This is what I did instead of seeing your shitty film."

  • March 14, 2007, 3:51 p.m. CST

    MY BAD?

    by johnnykool

    FUCK YOU MICHAEL BAY! I hope you develop flaming nipples and they burn off your face. Fuck you! Fuck you to hell! <p>Next, Optimus will say, "Yo what up, dawg? We goin' down in dis here mutha fucka. Dem Decepticons an' shit? Yeah, we gonna bust a cap in dey azz, 'aight?" <p>FUCK YOU MICHAEL BAY FOR MAKING PETER CULLEN SAY "MY BAD!"

  • March 14, 2007, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Wouldn't it be cool?

    by Johnno

    If Bay reads the talkbacks and has Peter Cullen say, "Damn you Michael Bay" in Optimus' voice for the movie just for laughs? Someone should've submitted that for that contest!

  • March 14, 2007, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Theater owners are dumbfuck establishment

    by Doctor_Sin

    All they see is $$$$$. They see BIG explosions, LOUD sfx, HIGH OCTANE cgi, FLASH, BOOM, BANG!!!!!<p>Ask any of these theater owners how they felt about overused "yucks" like dog pee and "fish out of water" character adjustment, and they'd probably look at you and say you were a nerd and blow you off. Because they - like Hollywood - don't care and stopped caring decades ago.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Ok, that was an over-generalization...

    by Doctor_Sin

    But, still, cheering theater owners mean as much to me as a Rex Reed review.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    This movie really sounds

    by Necromunda

    This movie really sounds like a steaming pile of shit. Please, Please, let this thing die at the box office.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:19 p.m. CST

    If any TF says "In tha hiz-ouse," I call a fatwa on Bay

    by Doctor_Sin

    Or if they do the goddamn Humpty Dance or....god forbid... The Robot!

  • March 14, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Oh God you people

    by 12-GAUGE

    are hilarious. talking about source-material and deviating from the genius of the Transformers lexicon. It's a fucking cartoon show! Fun as hell, a blast, but that's it. It ain't Van Gogh. It's balls-out fun, and you haters are desperate to find some sort of meaning in it, some meaning that is supposedly being raped by Michael Bay. Bullshit. Quit whining and pony up.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Lest we forget...

    by crashcow

    IT'S A MOVIE BASED ON A TOY LINE!!!!!!! You don't watch Star Wars for the acting, do ya? Of course not. Some things just don't transition well. Transformers was a decent cartoon (not great...decent.) Bay is making a "Big, cool robot blows stuff up" movie that happens to be called Transformers. Considering the source material, I think he can screw it up however he wants and it'll be just as entertaining. Sometimes things just looked cooler when we were kids. Accept it.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:44 p.m. CST

    If this movie sounded "fun as hell" I would be ok w/ it

    by Doctor_Sin

    But it sounds like shit. Ergo, regardless of its adherence (or lack thereof) to the "source material," it will blow chlamydia-ravaged cocks.

  • March 14, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    12-Gauge...

    by crashcow

    Right on, chief. You fanboys want art? Go paint my house. It's toys...

  • March 14, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Yacky baby

    by Montag666

    I will be honored to have your first gerbil named after me. And to the good Doctor: I say we call a fatwa on Bay anyway!

  • March 14, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    My Bad

    by Megaladon

    I fucking HATE that term! Doesn't Bay realize how overused it is? The fact that he would stick that in the flick took me from excited to migraine in abour ten seconds flat. Grrrrr!

  • March 14, 2007, 5:46 p.m. CST

    the founder

    by The Founder

    sounds great. I think it'll be a good summer flick. Don't know what some are complaining in terms of story and source material. How much phucking story can you put in a transformers movie? I don't want another Hulk. Doesn't sound to me that Bay is going to far from the source material.

  • March 14, 2007, 5:50 p.m. CST

    The inevitable porn parody will be better, I gurantee

    by Doctor_Sin

    "Transporners: More Than Meets the Browneye"<p>Sex toys come to life as life-size fuck machines that try to dominate humanity by controlling the planet's sex drive. Dildo voiced by Ron Jeremy.

  • March 14, 2007, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Yup, they filmed the horrible draft script.

    by superninja

    This sounds for the most part, awful. With the exception of the military base attack but even then they manage to chump it out by making it all about the humans.

  • March 14, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Cliched idiots....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Same arguments every damn TB-<p> "You haven't seen it yet" - hadn't seen AvP, FF4, Catwoman, or Ghost Rider and I knew they were shit, and they were indeed fucking shit.<p> "It was just a cartoon" - and Spiderman was just a comicbook, glad Raimi doesn't share this mentality.<p> "...just a cartoon to sell toys" - so fucking what, does that mean we should just accept that it's shit, and isn't this admitting it's shit anyway?<p> "You all will go see it" - sure will, I'll watch it on quicksilverscreen.com like I did Ghost Rider, for fucking FREE!

  • March 14, 2007, 7:16 p.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI

    by T 1000 xp professional

    i always did like you.... haha bunch of morons, this guy is obviously somebody else...I'm excited for this film but the damning Michael Bay has gotta stay....it puts a smile on my face. Keep on Damnin' roman numeral MCMLXXVI

  • March 14, 2007, 7:24 p.m. CST

    oh yeah and...

    by T 1000 xp professional

    Burning furbies sound good to me? condascending losers...see ya'll on runescape ( finger in the shape of an "L" on my forehead"...you guys made me quote Smashmouth...i hate you).......On a side note, Quint has the best interviews on this site( except for Harry's Cameron the Pagan interview) and best on site scoops. Keep on rockin' my world Quint. Keep bring your "Plant" news.

  • March 14, 2007, 7:27 p.m. CST

    keep on bringin' ** ....crap man

    by T 1000 xp professional

  • March 14, 2007, 7:32 p.m. CST

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    by finky089

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  • March 14, 2007, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Not "too early to hate it"; never too late to start

    by finky089

    The script sucked. Bay's films fail to impress (unless I'm looking for big explosions and no story). And the robots, for the most part, look like thalidomide guyvers. <p> fuck this shit.

  • March 14, 2007, 11:23 p.m. CST

    I just watched the long trailer again in HD

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    And those who say this movie is going to be shit are smoking crack.<BR><BR> It's going to be exactly what I expect for a live action Transformers movie. Robots blowing shit up. I am not looking for deep story I am looking for eye candy.<BR><BR> Again. 80s children cartoon that in itself had cheesy lines and no substance brought to life in live action. I loved the cartoon as a kid and I am sure as hell going to love seeing this movie this summer. Those who are crying are only doing so to jump on some bandwagon that was started by some moron who posted the whole "Damn you Micheal Bay" thing. <BR><BR> None of you have seen the movie. But if it's anything like what Quint has described or anything like that kickass trailer I will be 100% satisfied with it.<BR><BR> And whoever said that each one of you who is bitching will go see it on opening day is on point. And I am sure most of those on here who are bitching will love it and I hope you have the nuts to say you were wrong if you do. I know I will. If the movie sucks I promise I will come back on the talkbacks and say you were all correct that the movie was shit.

  • March 14, 2007, 11:43 p.m. CST

    i can't wait for the bit where ratchet says....

    by slappy jones

    "thats what i'm talking about" when megan fox stands behind himto get changed and there is a great scene near the end when prime says "do not go there megatron" to which megatron replies "oh no you did-ant" ..... then they fight for a bit and prime punches him through a building and says "thats gotta hurt"

  • March 14, 2007, 11:48 p.m. CST

    TBers SET THEMSELVES UP FOR A SHITTY EXPERIENCE...

    by moto

    You do. Blame it on sites like AICN and blame it on the internet. The magic is fucking dead for you guys. You put so much energy into hating a movie based on nothing more than herese, dated scripts, leaked set pics and concept designs, etc. You honestly hate a flick if it isn't made exactly how you'd like it to be. Fact is, no movie is 100% ladies and gentlemen. No movie delivers 100%. The Last Starfighter... terrible acting, cheesy script, but for many fans it still fucking rocks. Same with Tron. Same with Back to the Future. Same with Star Wars. No movie delivers 100%. Impossible. So stop fucking thinking in BLACK or WHITE all of the time! God, if a movie didn't tackle something you were hoping for, in your mind it is a total flop and whoever wrote and directed it should never work in the industry again. Give me a break. Get off your damn pedestal, your soapbox, your Monday morning quarterback recliner, your computer chair, and remember what it was like to go into a movie not knowing what to expect. That's why movies like Star Wars and Back to the Future, etc. have survived the test of time. Because we were innocent and wide-eyed and not bombarded by negativity from the get go. You guys choose to read all of this shit on AICN and put so much faith into it, be it good or bad. You guys choose to learn every single possible detail so you can step up on your soapbox, hiding behind your computer, and pass your "ultimate" judgement WITHOUT SEEING THE FUCKING MOVIE. I don't care what you say about "Oh, but they change the source material" and "Oh, Michael Bay's movies suck" yada yada yada. Perspective here: Generally your favorite SW movie is Empire, right? Directed by Irvin Kershner who before that movie, had made nothing and unsuccessful movies. So, if we're thinking in your terms today, he was the WRONG choice to direct that movie??? Um, nope. See how ridiculous that is? If Empire came out today, and you heard some unknown director who made a couple of mid-level movies/flops was going to direct the sequel to your beloved movie, you'd be screaming havoc! It's just pure ridiculous. Fact is, Transformers probably won't, and never could be 100% the movie you guys wanted to see. Is that so wrong? You're still seeing a live action Transformers movie! What did you like about the original cartoons as a kid? Don't give me this bullshit about "the stories" and the "character interactions". I'm THE biggest fucking Transformers fan and the truth is, that show did NOT have that. Go back and watch the episodes on DVD. Some interesting stories yes, but not the perfect and depth-filled source material you guys swear by. We loved that show because it was about robots that fucking transformed into vehicles! If we get that, and if we get some kickass action packed moments... I'm in. I've been waiting for this since I was a kid. And I'll take what I liked and leave it at that. Fucking enjoy yourselves for once. Think about a movie like ID4. When that came out, and when most of us saw it in the theater, it was a frickin' sweet movie experience. Fun. Pure fun. In retrospect, the movie isn't that great. We hardly knew anything about it beforehand... couple of trailers. And it was a fun movie theater experience. Lighten up TBers. Hollywood isn't curing cancer or anything. They're entertaining. Fact is, this movie will ENTERTAIN millions of people. What's wrong with that?

  • March 15, 2007, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Transformers "mythos", you're shitting me right?

    by pdennett316

    The cartoons were shallow as a puddle, but the toys were cool as fuck. This movie will be decent, not mind-blowing, but definately not dull. The dialogue will most likely be "serviceable", but no better. I'm not expecting much, no-one else should either. Stuff like "my bad" could be explained by the Transformers studying our culture. It's actually a deep and meaningful observation about the dumbing down of our society. Or a throwaway line aimed at the target audience of the movie. KIDS, for all you hypergeeks who forget that shit like this isn't aimed at you anymore, it's for a new generation of A.D.D. sufferers to enjoy.

  • March 15, 2007, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Transformers mythos- loose in toon, great in comic

    by TheSecondQuest

    The Transformers comics developed the TF mythos (which were only touched upon in the cartoon really) to a far deeper degree to the point that they're easily on the same level as any other major comic book property.

  • March 15, 2007, 2:38 a.m. CST

    To those who say I'll see the movie anyway

    by Doc_Strange

    Yeah I'll see it........ downloaded in XVID that is. This purpose serves twofold, 1, I don't have to pay to watch any kind of shit Michael Bay does and in turn that's some more lost money this movie has, along with millions of others who will no doubt download the film just to see how shitty it is and thank themselves that they didn't pay to see it. And 2, Show the studios that you don't fuck with the fans. Give me POTC instead, hell gimme Harry Potter.

  • March 15, 2007, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Summer blockbuster.

    by scottybtrue

    I agree with most of you that this film, from what we have heard so far, seems to be straying from the true source material. And that the one liners, big budget FX, current hot actors, heavy action sequences, all resemble a standard Michael Bay film. As much as we all might agree on all of this, in the end most of us will go see this movie at the theater, on the big screen, because we all want to see Transformers in a real-life setting. Every since I was a kid, I have dreamed of my childhood toy/cartoon heroes in this way. I say so what if Michael Bay is directing in his signature style, we still get to see a real to life depiction of Autobots vs. Decepticons this summer . And we all know this will be the blockbuster of the summer, so break out the popcorn, and enjoy the ride!

  • March 15, 2007, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Can someone explain to me

    by Lost Prophet

    How the fuck is that talent vacuum Shai Lebouf a hot actor. The little twat was the second worst thing (after the really tacky product placement- "nice Shoes") in I, Robot?

  • March 15, 2007, 7:34 a.m. CST

    this film never had a chance

    by 1st and only

    after they fuck this up they can reimagine a jayce and the wheeled warriors movie...then fuck that up. theres plenty of great 80's cartoons out there that hollywood can fuck up....one after the other...forever! thundercats anyone? fucked b4 its even started.

  • March 15, 2007, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet

    by Err

    No, one of the worst things in I, Robot is the fact that they took a fairly clever futuristic Whodunnit and turned it into a cliched and boring action adventure film. 1st half of I, Robot was good. 2nd half was crap. And give me Shia LeBoeuf over Lindsay Lohan's anorexic, drunken ass anyday.

  • March 15, 2007, 8 a.m. CST

    That is true

    by Lost Prophet

    about fucking up the premise. However, still not as shitty as the product placement- check out will smith in his CONVERSE FUCKING TRAINERS- early 21st century model! Watch him drive his audi! or just fuck off instead. <p> can we not just dump Shitehead lepoof and lindsay lohan on a boat in the middle of the ocean and sink it? The world would be a better place.

  • March 15, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Agreed

    by Err

    Dump them on a boat and sink the boat or blow it up with a torpedo.

  • March 15, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    "My Bad"??????????

    by Bishop6

    I can almost hear the tone, done to sound like a retarded 12 year old. Which is precisely what this movie is aimed at. I know some ppl at ILM and they (quote) call it a "crap sandwhich"

  • March 23, 2007, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay 's Self Denial

    by jegoing74

    Cry babies? No. People who wanted to see real artist bringing the robots to life, not some bugafied creatures that have four segmented fingers and monkey feet. Please Mike, try to find real artists who understand human anatomy next time. Your Baybots suck asssssshole.