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Quint sees Robert Rodriguez's SXSW Grindhouse panel! Footage! Trailers! And the trailer competition finalists & winner!!!
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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I unfortunately had to sacrifice a good deal of my movie-watching time at SXSW today in order to get ready for my ShoWest/Vegas travels. Thanks to everybody who wrote in to me with ShoWest advice, by the way. I still don't have a solid way around those goddamn ShoWest passports, but I've got some sneaky ideas/theories from some clever readers.
Anyway, I did get to see two panels, GRINDHOUSE 101 hosted by Robert Rodriguez and the Panel of the Dead, which Harry moderated with Cinematical's Scott Weinberg, Scott Glosserman (director of the great BEHIND THE MASK) and a few other horror people, including Cabin Fever's producer, a few people from Borderland, including Rider Strong, and the Alamo Drafthouse's Terror Thursday horror nerd, Zack.
Let's talk a little about GRINDHOUSE.
Rodriguez brought Harry out to have a discussion about GRINDHOUSE cinema and showed a few classic Grindhouse trailers, for stuff like THEY CALL HER ONE EYE, THE GREEN SLIME and Fred Williamson's BOSS NIGGER, the latter two trailers complete with badass title theme songs.
Rodriguez also played the final 3 GRINDHOUSE COMPETITION trailers. They were HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN, THE DEAD WON'T DIE and MAIDEN OF DEATH. I've embedded all three below if you haven't seen them... although the stars on THE DEAD WON'T DIE suck... you'll know what I mean when you see 'em... they weren't on the version that played at the panel!
I hadn't seen THE DEAD WON'T DIE, which really fuckin' kicked my ass... Loved it, but all three finalists are fantastic... So hard to pick, but Robert did and he decided...
HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN
was the winner! The filmmaker got some tech goodies to help him on his future film work, including a full Avid Express Pro software package. The runners up also got some goodies, but I don't know what they got. I'm hoping Dimension cuts some sort of deal with these finalists and is able to include these trailers on the eventual GRINDHOUSE DVD release.
Speaking of, Rodriguez joked about releasing the super special edition DVD as a "newly found and remastered 35mm print" which is completely clean, the digital aging removed.
Don't know how much of that was a "joking but kinda serious," but it's a funny idea... at least to a geek like me that collects those kinds of DVDs.
Robert showed a sequence from PLANET TERROR and also screened Eli Roth's faux-trailer, saying that we were probably going to be one of the only ones to see these both complete and uncut as he doesn't think they'll make it through the MPAA unscathed. But he was very happy about the MPAA demanding cuts because here he can just remove frames and some gore shots with a hard tape splice, just like you'd find in some of the best parts on a particularly beat-up and picked-through film print. (Back in the day, the more pervy projectionists would edit out good nudity or gore and keep them for their own private use. I've heard of reels built up of nothing but nudity and gore edited together... as a film collector this practice is infuriating, ruining some perfectly fine prints... but I'm getting sidetracked).
Eli Roth's THANKSGIVING.
The only holiday that hasn't been done as a horror movie. The tone of the trailer is very much SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE-era early '80s slasher, ripping off the style of films like HALLOWEEN, just as we would have seen back then. Lots of steadicam POV of the Killer shots, etc. But here we have a shadowed slasher decked up in a Pilgrim outfit who does some disgusting shit.
The setting is the small town of Plymouth Rock as they're celebrating Thanksgiving. Grandmothers make up turkeys, sexed up high schoolers get brutally murdered, etc.
I won't ruin any of the gags or surprises... it is, afterall, a 3 minute trailer, so there should be some shocks left, but I will say the gore level is fantastic. There's the most disgusting turkey ever created for any purpose at any point in human history. The money shot of the trailer... is very implied, but it got the biggest reaction out of anything in the trailer. It's original, but one that's so of the period that you can't believe it wasn't already done. People will be talking about this shot for a long time.
The clip Rodriguez showed from his half of GRINDHOUSE was filled with probably a small wading pool amount of blood. You have Freddy Rodriguez hoping on a tiny little motorcycle... looks hilarious because it looks like it was made for a 4 year old and he pops a badass wheelie, tearing ass down the road, shooting zombies as he goes.
And Rodriguez used Paul Verhoeven squibs, man. These bullet hits are so goddamn gory and bloody. Not since ROBOCOP have we seen squibs like this.
The sequence took place at night as the survivors caravan down a road, people on motorcycles shooting as they ride and a couple big trucks filled with dozens of people.
The majority of blood was in the hits... These big fucking trucks would smack into zombies and they'd just obliterate into red liquid. All practical effects, too, as limbs fly off and the bodies get crushed into the grill or under the heavy wheels. At least 6 or 7 of these are seen... and then a dog in one of the cars jumps out for some reason and gets run over, spraying blood all over these girls! It was a great, "What the fuck was that?!?" moment.
I was very impressed and am now even more psyched to see GRINDHOUSE.
That's about all I can muster right now. I have to be up in a few hours and finish my pre-ShoWest preparations. Wish I could stay here, to be honest, but ticket and hotel are booked. No backing out now. Be back soon.
-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com

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and I have no fucking idea what "Grindhouse" films are.
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The only reason I would ever see this is Kurt Russell. Tarantino has long since become a parody of himself. His work peaked with Jackie Brown - after that he's just trading on the same old riffs. He's basically the directorial equivalent of Status Quo.
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Grindhouse flicks were exploitation flicks of the late '60s through to the early/mid '80s. Small theaters that would run the sleaziest stuff, sexploitation, blaxploitation, chop sockey, horror (with a slant to Italian horror)... anything low budget with a high entertainment value... and willing to push the limits.I forgot to mention CRIPPLED MASTERS, a trailer that ran with BOSS NIGGER, THEY CALL HER ONE EYE and THE GREEN SLIME... kind of like kung fu FREAKS. It's an amazing movie and an amazing trailer.
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"Doug Bradley of the Midian Times"
I liked The Dead Won't Die as a trailer the best, but Hobo wins Best Title. With all the Hating on this site, I'd like to see a contest like that here. Put up or shut up. -
... and cedar_room, i'm guessing either this is your very first visit to AICN or you don't absorb any film media at all. every british film show, magazine, website has been all over grindhouse almost as long as their american counterparts.
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would that be considered racistploitation?
and thanks for the clarification Quint. I'll probably go and see the film, just will have no idea whether its a hilarious send-up of the "Grindhouse" style or not. But I think it involves amputed leg guns, and that gets my vote everytime. -
Or did like, a comittee pick the finalists and then he just watched those?
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Keep the aged-film scratches and crap from the trailers. If the movie stock is clean after the awesomely aged and damaged trailers, I'll be very disappointed.
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Maiden of Death was slick and professional looking and all but Hobo with a Shotgun has a hobo with a shotgun.
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That final graphic of her sat in silhouette playing atop the pile of bodies was genius.
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The dead won't die would have been my vote although hobo with a shotgun definitely has the best title. Maiden is probably the best of the three but then it is too polished for real grindhouse.
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You probably had a fleapit which was sort of the British equivalent and they mostly showed soft porn. But they all but vanished in the UK in mid eighties. I remeber two cinemas in Leeds. One was the Plaza and it showed mainly porn but did show the uncut Evil Dead. The other was the Tower that had great double bills for a pound but a lot of these were mainstream films but very old beat up prints. Having said that I went to "The Giant Spider Invasion" & "Carquake" on a double bill at the Odeon. Back in the days when you could sit in there all day for one admission price. We came in halfway through "Carquake" and waited until it came round again to watch the beginning. I'm not that nostalgic for it but that's my memories of the english equivalent.
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Let's not let BSB hijack this talkback with rubbish about his sexuality. If he wants to engage in homosexual sex, as long as it's with another male (or group thereof) of the age of consent or above then that's his decision. But I don't need that shit in an AICN talkback.
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"He's basically the directorial equivalent of Status Quo."
Right, because everyone was making colorful exploitation epics around the time he made Kill Bill (One single movie, so it's kind of hard to say that it represents his whole career now).
Oh wait, nobody was making colorful exploitation flicks back when Kill Bill came out. In fact, I remember the audience laughing at the trailer when it played.
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Damn you Michael Bay
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and Ireland and still are. Cronenbergs Crash, adaptation of JG ballards novel was so reviled, that the legendary British Critic Christoper Tookey called for an ourtight ban of sony products. There really hilarious part was that the sitting Tory MP and cabinet minister Virgina Bottomly(of which there was once a very famous anagram) called for Cronenbergs movie to be banned, when she was asked did she see the movie she said no and when the head of london borough council was asked did he see it he said and he still called for the movie to be banned. video nasties were banned after two kids called Thompson and veneables murder a toddler. But, in the hysteria no one mentioned that these two kids came from broken homes. Daily mail readers were outraged in sufficient numbers to get these videos banned and remain banned. In ireland Natural born killers was given an outright ban and Bad Santa was pulled from all irish cinema chains. I saw it dvd and it was mediocre. BAN THIS SICK FLICK!!!
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Had some of the best deaths ever in it. He dropped a guy slowly feet first into an industrial meat grinder, and another was shot in the groin with poisoned bullets after he was found keeping a naked young man trussed up like a gimp on a bed. Thats the sort of character building films that 10 year olds should watch. I watched them and I turned out fine. Just the other day I tracked down the online be-heading of some hostages and I wasnt fazed in the slightest! Bring on the de-sensitisation. :)
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Mar 12, 2007 8:29:36 AM CDT
I worked in a video shop in the 80's, when I was 14
by col. tigh-fighter
It was in a run-down working class estate. The owner had all the banned video nasties under the counter. Driller Killer, Cannibal Holocaust, Chainsaw Massacre, the un-cut Dawn of the Dead (that one seriously F*'d me up!),and poor old Evil Dead 1. I used to have to put them in normal video boxes like the Ewoks movie cases. lol.
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Most of the films that were banned in the UK were banned long before the James Bulger case. In fact the only thing that linked the James Bulger case to a video was that one of the famlies had a copy of "Childs Play" and that wasn't banned as a result. A list was drwan up around 1982 that then, right wing, Thatcher government found objectionable. This included the films Col Tigh-Fighter mentioned and saw Police raiding video shops and siezing "Apocalypse Now" thinking it was "Cannibal Apocalyspse". It was a storm kicked up in right wing newspapers and resulted the Video Classification laws for home video that are still in place today in the UK. Most of the films are available now and are uncut and are also shit. Thanks Maggie for keeping me on the straight and narrow.
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I'm declaring the coolness of Hobos to now be officially over. Let us remember the brief time in which Hobos were funny and cool and not beat the joke to death 1000 times over like we did with Ninjas, Monkeys, and Pirates.
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Watched Zombie Flesh-eaters (is that the one on the island?) recently. God it was bad. Actually didnt even follow Romero's rules, with 15 century conquistador skeletons coming to lfe and shoving lumps of wood in someones eye! Lava could have run faster than those zombiea. Alla bit camp.
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...that's exactly what i was about to write. get your fact's straight emeraldboy!!!
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Mar 12, 2007 9:16:46 AM CDT
Ah, Mary Whitehouse, you glorious, spectacular failure
by franklin t marmoset
Mrs Whitehouse kicked off most of the video nasty furore, if I remember rightly. She must have poured thousands of hours into that malarkey, and now I can wander into my local Virgin Megastore and buy I Spit On Your Grave on special edition DVD. Not that I would, but I'm just saying...
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I can't wait for the the sequel: BUM WITH A GRENADE!
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Fucking best line ever considering she had a kid and family. I´m impressed with the quality. Maiden of death trailer was awesome. Could have been done by a known director. So who did those trailers? Any homepages to the creators? I have missed that whole competition, so more info would be welcomed.
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Mar 12, 2007 9:19:49 AM CDT
Hey, check out my spiffy split-level subject lines
by franklin t marmoset
Is this a new feature, or have I developed some entirely useless super-power?
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Turns out, it's this new computer I'm using. Also, I am an ass.By the way, I'm liking the look of this Grindhouse. I used to wish Tarantino would grow up and whatnot, but I don't care anymore. This looks like fun.
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AICN wouldn't be half as much fun with a edit button or a spellcheck. I'm currently cringing at the spelling in my last post.
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I give up!
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ATOS viewers picked Hobo too, great minds think alike.
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There is justice in the world! HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN, bitches!
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Theaters that showed burlesque stage shows and sleaze films (like the ones that pretended to be medical/scientific documentaries, but were just excuses to show birth scenes (oooh, vagina) or topless women in bare-bones stage-set "doctor's offices." They became the places to market low-budget crap, sex films and bad kung fu movies. All while knife-wielding pimps threatened each other, bums masturbated, and kids made out.
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QT relies far too much on his winning formula - counterculture homages to 70s ex/blax/ploitation surrounded by obscure songs of the period. I admit it can be very cool. But I want to see QT do something else. Jackie Brown was, very nearly, a 'proper' film - a departure for him. And it succeeded on every level. I'd like to see him really stretch his directing muscles. Do something offbeat. Off the wall. The thing is, QT is actually an inspired director - I've seen Tarantino produce some truly lovely shots. Remember when Christ Tucker gets bundled in the car in a parking lot, in Jackie Brown? And the camera moves up is a slow arc as the car drives off, and we see over the fence as the car pulls up 500 yards away, Sam gets out, opens the trunk, and pops Tucker? That was a beautiful shot, the best Tarantino's ever managed IMHO. I'd love to see QT use this sort of sensibility for it's own sake. But QT the director gets completely swamped by QT the film buff and QT the dialog writer, and we end up with Kill Bill, a muddled epic that could have been so much more if he hadn't've let his (and our) expectations of what a QT film should be color the result.
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Mar 12, 2007 10:00:42 AM CDT
My local 'Grindhouse' evolved into a furniture shop
by franklin t marmoset
Although I don't remember anyone referring to it as a 'grindhouse', which I suppose is some kind of American thing. Generally, they were called flea-pits over here, and what I miss most about them was you could smoke. Not smoking in cinemas sucks. I am morally outraged that I have to listen to teenagers ask each other what's happening in a film but I can't have a fag.
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Hobo w/a Shotgun for life!!!!
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There's another movie, too, that features the "legless" guy that I have yet to see. Crippled Masters rules!
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Just don't moan that you can't have a fag in American cinemas
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Dude posted it in the original TB, but I saved it on my work computer.
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I kid, I kid. ;-)
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Actually it was Child's Play 3 that caused a stir after the Bluger murder. Turned out that there was no eveidence either of the killers had seen it though. You can get the whole Video Nasty story through the documentaries Ban the Sadist Videos! Parts 1 and 2.
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Congratulations to the brilliant & twisted minds behind the now legendary "Hobo With A Shotgun" - truly the greatest of all the trailers in competition. Best wishes and I hope Rodriguez & Tarantino help y'all get that masterpiece onto the big screen...maybe "Grindhouse 2" perhaps?
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I want these Hobos with Muthafuckin Shotguns off my plane!
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When I see the word "Hobo", there are expectations! Where is his beard? His crumpled fedora? His stick with a polka-dotted handkerchief tied on the end carrying his meager belongings? No sir, this man does not scream "Hobo" to me. I bet he's never even ridden the rails! What a rip-off.
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The Dead won't die was really lame. These film makers now think it's not "pushing the envelope" if some woman is not being raped by a cannibal or now zombies. I mean does the Hills Have Eyes 2 really need another cannibal rape scene? We had the scene in the Wes Craven Original so they felt obligated to put it in the remake,nut now the sequel? What gives, no originality? No ideas of what it really takes to shock and scare people so they go to one thing they now will upset most everybody. Losers. Anyways when Maiden started I was thinking Crow rip off but it got alot better as the trailer went on, and Hobo was just freaking awesome. Hobo should be made into a feature with Maiden as a double bill.
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He should play them with grind house rather than Rob Zombie and El Roth shit. Also those trailers looks like they had some money spent on them especial Maiden of death.
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but at least this will shut up those youTubers saying it didn't fit as grindhouse!
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I never met QT, but I'm only a few years younger and from the same area of LA and had the same cool taste/lack of taste in movies so we may have been in some of the same "grindhouses" in our teens. I don't remember anybody ever calling them grindhouses or grindhouse movies before this movie, which I'm dying to see. I used to go to the Jerry Lewis Twin (Jerry Lewis invented the multi-plex! Hey, lay-dee! Nice lay-dee!). A lot of grindhouse is simply fun, exploitation things that would be straight-to-DVD today. It's like the indoor version of a drive-in-movie except that it cost less, you didn't have a car, and as a homophobic teen, you could go with your buddy without getting gay bashed. And you didn't have to be old enough to drive. You could hip a matinee or two or six. We're talking low budget violent and sexy movie with a certain attitude and lower level stars. Like ENTER THE DRAGON might have a mainstream audience but a million other martial arts flicks would show only at the grindhouse. THE EXORCIST and THE OMEN would show mainstream but MAUSOLEUM (with literally killer, demon tits) would show at a grindhouse. I like the escape-from-rednecks/redneck cops genre (those are scary; those of you from foreign lands, you might think you know what a real American redneck is but unfortunately, they're less stupid and even meaner than you can imagine)and the grindhouse western. If I could make a grindhouse movie, I'd make a western. My favorite grindhouse western (despite the presence of Henry Fonda) is MY NAME IS NOBODY. As a 70s kid, I hated westerns. All my friends hated westerns. But we all liked Nobody. There was also one where all these Asian babes got parts of a treasure map tattooed to their asses and a samurai or something teamed up a gunfighter to track them through the brothels of the old west and look at their asses until they found the treasure. I remember my friends and I agreed:"Treasure-smeasure, we'd just look at their asses!" I think no matter where you live, before the rise of the video store you had these kind of movies in these kind of theaters, in one form or another, it just depends on what you call 'em.
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YES! That was my junk baby!! I'd love to see a movie for that!
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Anyone know which trailers were given to Rodriguez in the first place? I heard there were 10.
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and CRIPPLED MASTERS a double feature ripe for a VIRN(sic) review!After he gets around to KILL OR BE KILLED and KILL AND KILL AGAIN,that is.
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Everyone did an amazing job with this contest. The screening at 501 on Saturday was insane, both the Hobo... and Dead... guys are really cool. As were all the other filmmakers I met this weekend.
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I second the motion that the top 10 be revealed.
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Lets see the top ten!
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...when it was called "The Crow." WTF?! Even the guitar solo/shadow combo at the end was taken from the movie.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the entries were narrowed down before being given to the people at Troublemaker, but I haven't heard anything about how many it was, and I doubt we'll see the list revealed, but it would be cool to see...
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Mar 12, 2007 1:42:42 PM CDT
Canadians feel free to ignore this... you already know
by harry weinstein
If you liked HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN, and you probably did, get your hands on the Canadian TV series TRAILER PARK BOYS and the recent feature film version just released on DVD - there's several TRAILER PARK BOYS cast members in HOBO. Relatively unknown in the US, TPB ran for a while on BBC America in a censored version but is long-gone from their lineup. Fuck all that - censored TRAILER PARK BOYS is like censored porn, it totally misses the point. Excessive profanity, alcoholism, drug and cheeseburger abuse, gunplay, and general stupidity abound, all mixed with a surprising amount of affection and compassion for its cast of losers - Americans are missing out on this big-time. HBO should have picked it up but it's probably too low-budget for them these days. The movie version was produced by Ivan Reitman and while it falls slightly short of the TV show's level of quality, it's still the single best thing his name's been attached to since God knows when. Beware the Winds Of Shit, and try to stay out of jail... unless it's absolutely necessary.
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Maybe I'll watch GRINDHOUSE when it's on tv...maybe...
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Brainsucking Maniacs: Watching the "professor" take a power drill to one of his captive sex-slaves, drilling a hole in her shaved head, and (gulp) sucking the brain matter from her skull with a straw! Classic shite man.
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If that was a real movie, I would see it... great stuff!
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I can't be the only one who thought of the "Studio 60..." gag.
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Can any of these directors come up with some of the actual "Grind-House" trailers from the 70's?! That would be tits.
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That was initially got me hooked on Studio 60.
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grindhouse my ass
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had budgets between $50,000-$400,000 to work with. Tarantino and Rodriguez had $40 million divided between them. Inflation certainly has gone up.
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Awesome, It was my favorite!
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Your average filmmaker would have put the "of" in the middle--so predictable.
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movie kicks ass
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOmNzVGJBlg
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My ex was from Halifax, Nova Scotia & got me addicted to the show at once. She ended up mailing me every season. Greatest show I've ever seen without a doubt.
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Mr. Lahey: Why don't you get a life Rick? Why don't ya go to community college like Julian here. Hey, I got a good idea. You could teach, livin' in a car and growin' dope 101.
Ricky: Hehe. And you can teach how to get drunk, get fired from the police force become a... lousy trailer park supervisor that sucks, hangs around with a fuckin' idiot that doesn't wear a shirt and looks like a dick but thinks he looks good... 101.
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Rodriguez announced at this weekend that Machete is indeed becoming a real film and that he plans on making two follow-ups at some point to Once Upon A Time In Mexico with Johnny Depp's blind gunman as the main character and Depp reprising the role. How come you guys haven't done a story on this yet with all the love that there is for Rodriguez on this site? What gives?!?!?!?!?
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Shit, I'd pay to see that!
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..or I will hate your face.
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Hi All, I was the writer and director of "The Dead Won't Die" trailer and I just wanted to say how much we appreciated the kind words and support. We were bummed out that we didn't get our trailer on youtube quick enough to get it mentioned on AICN when the trailers first started popping up....so this is awesome to be mentioned in a post.
It truly was an honor to be selected a finalist in the competition with such great work as Hobo and Maiden of Death....and the filmmakers from both of them were great guys too...it was great to meet them here at SXSW. It was amazing to see how big of fans of the genre we all were and how passionate everybody was about doing something cool.
Hopefully we all get a chance to turn some of these ideas into features and make some cool stuff.
Anyway, thanks to AICN for posting this and we appreciate everyone's support. We have a myspace page if you are interested at http://www.myspace.com/thedeadwontdie -
on that leg-gun? it appears to be firing on its own... could be a real liability at, say, a family reunion...
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How'd it work out that the filmmakers of the only three that were shown were actually in Austin? Wasn't Hobo from Canada? Did they fly down just in case, or did you guys get a heads up...?
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Machete = http://movies.ign.com/articles/772/772081p1.html
OUATITW Parts 2&3 = http://movies.ign.com/articles/772/772078p1.html
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...OUATIM (Once Upon A Time In Mexico) that is. I have Leone on the brain I guess.
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Next round is on me.
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can't remember its name..but that for me came second after hobo with a shotgun...
hobo got it so righton..how many times I saw a trailer exactly like that growing up at the start of some low budget action film i rented.....it is perfect and should be on grindhouse...its genius -
...of all the entries, there wasn't one sent in that was better than the Youtube listings? Seriously? Did they get swamped and just gave up? The Circus one and Hollywood Cannibal Hookers(?), were more authentic then Hobo, which was a flat-out parody.And when did an Avid system become the grand prize? I never heard that before. This contest was really disorganized. I feel bad for the people who put time and effort in. This should have been run like the Hills Have Eyes 2 contest which gave exposure to all entries and then picked a winner.
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I came over from London to meet the other trailer-makers as we all got on so well online and all shared the same mental production experience. MASSIVE props to Thomas for our midnight screening (and his brilliant film YOUR DARKNESS IS MY PLAYGROUND) at the 501 Soundstage! And big respect to the Hobos: Jason, Rob, John; Kevin (top geeza and best tracking shot of the whole competition in "ADIOS, LOBO"), Don (my giallo brother), Christian (and his whole TANK gang), the JESUS RISES crew (most blasphemous/outrageous award goes to them), QUEEN'S OF THE STREET, STRAW HAT MASTER, and everyone else I hung out with. Jet-lagged from the flight back, so can't remember everyone I should be saying hello to!?....Austin is the single most intensely cine-literate place on Earth......I'll be back...
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arent you the bloke that didnt care for x-men2?
Also to Buzz Maverik ..... the film with the tatooed asses was the Lee van Cleef/Lo Lieh film .. "The Stranf=ger and the Gunfighter" -
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