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From The Told Ya So Department: Variety Confirms Shia LaBeouf In INDIANA JONES 4!!
Ahem.
And just to prod your memory... ahem part deux.
Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles
Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles
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and further more, Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Not surprised. Also, I'm okay with it. And Indiana film is better than no Indiana film, right? Right?
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Does this guy go from Even Stevens to Transformers and Indy 4?!?!?!?!
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Between this, Zombie nixing the Halloween theme in his movie, Alvin and the F'n Chipmunk movie, finding out that Jon Heder has his own production company(?!), and news about a Groo the Wanderer movie... you guys are damn busy today.
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Jesus Christ, what a wreck of a storyteller.
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God, Indy 4 has "suck" written all over it.
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Now review Darbont's discarded script.
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for Indy's son...oh well...this works, too I guess...this guy is the real life jar jar binks...annoying sidekick in huge movies...
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when I realised there was a kid in Temple of Doom and that film shat all over TV movie Last Crusade. Spielberg knows what he's doing.
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Never heard of her.
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I told you I don't know him.
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exactly what i was thinking....
"me-sa indy jr. me-sa get own trilogy ooota dis..." Lucas has lost it, big time... -
Lucas really knows how to fuck beloved franchises up doesn't he?
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He has made movies not as good as others...but name one BAD movie.
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christ, it was pretty good. to be honest, the only thing that made it terrible was jar jar...he singel handedly brought the entire film down...here's hoping this doens't happen again with indy4
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I assume you haven't seen AI...
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Mar 08, 2007 6:54:30 AM CST
Lucash & Stealberg have a beer and rape my childhood
by kentucky colonel
Hey, it could happen!
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holy christ, how does this guy keep getting these stupid sidekick roles? he'll play Indy's young new friend, probably a student of his, and will carry his fucking whip around because it's too heavy for Indy.
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goes to Shia LaBoeuf!The only award Indy 4 will get!
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Lets face it, if they want to do big numbers with this, they need to get the youngsters through the door. The last thing they need is for everyon under 30 to say "Sod this, I'm not watching 2 hours of some geriatric old git complaining about his back, I'll go and watch Epic movie 2 instead". They need the under 25s, and for that, they need a young male sidekick.
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...Fuck.
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Hook
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I'll start the team off: THE LOST WORLD.
Lazy, cynical, illogical, bloated, dumb and just plain BAD. Don't think me a hater cause I LOVE Raiders, Jaws, ET and Munich. When the guy is on his game he's the greatest director on Earth. -
Indiana had only a daughter... at least, in Young Indiana Jones Chronicles(if he had a son it was never mentioned, but since they're erasing all of the "Old Indy" portions from the upcoming DVDs, perhaps history is being revised?)
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and yup, that's what this kid will be carrying for Indy. Or he'll be the one pushing Indy's wheelchair. Jar Jar Binks indeed...
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The Lost World...wanted Julian Moore squashed in that one.
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GEORGE LUCAS, STEVEN SPIELBERG, INDIANA JONES... this place is going to EXPLODE!
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and Hook is a piece of crap too. I think he's a genius but there's no excusing those two celluloid crapfests
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If you think 'The Lost World' was a bad movie, you need to revise what you think of as bad. It wasn't great, but it certainly wasn't a 'bad' movie. The closest Spielberg has ever come to a 'bad' movie is 1941.
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He was hilarious in that disney channel show, and I've liked him in all the movies he's done, and am excited to see how he does in transformers. I think he's a fine actor. I approve. This kid is gonna be a huge star.
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Even when I was younger, I preferred watching older hero types. Even in TV dramas, etc. On NYPD Blue, I always had more interest in Sipowicz's dealing with his problems than watching his cool young partner whine about whichever hot young model he was screwing at the time. Or something like that.
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QUOTE=Lets face it, if they want to do big numbers with this, they need to get the youngsters through the door. The last thing they need is for everyon under 30 to say "Sod this, I'm not watching 2 hours of some geriatric old git complaining about his back, I'll go and watch Epic movie 2 instead". They need the under 25s, and for that, they need a young male sidekick"
I'm under 25 and I can tell you that this movie would be LOADS better without Lebeouf. I remember watching the original Indy films with my dad and loving every minute of it. I would pay to see another Ford/Connery role, that is if Connery could remember who the hell he is by that time HA! Here's one under 25 year old that thinks this is a bad move. -
my thoughts exactly.
In sad, unrelated news. Mr. Humphries has died. "I'm Free!" His walk alone was 10X funnier than any sitcom currently on ABC... -
And I'm not going to waste any more time on it. Besides, would it have ever come close to being as good as 'Last Crusade'?
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"Thesp also provides the lead voice in Sony's upcoming toon Surf's Up!" Thesp? Not even "the thesp"? God, I hate Variety so much.
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Someone is going to bring it up eventually...
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...where sheilalalal lebouf is like really geeky and then later on where Indy is like being beaten on by some henchmen we'll hear we'll hear "Whaa-CHH!" and sheilaionon lebouf will like take them out with Indy's whip and Indy will like look on in amazement and do a little nod of thanks in a sort of "that's my boy!" way!
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...where like Indy is desperately looking through a library and shielawana lebouf logs onto an iMac and finds the info in TEN SECONDS and Indy is all like "Hah, technology!" cos it's gonna be set in the 40s or 50s!
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I really hope this isn't the old "Hero didn't know he had an illegitimate kid and now meets him for the first time before another adventure during which they'll form a relationship" story... I mean, many years have passed since the last Indy. Would it be too much to ask for Indy to have a normal wife-and-kid life now? And he's some how dragged back on some adventure? Please, I hoping you're not going for the action movie cliche, guys. Indiana Jones is not John McClane. Don't make him some lonely, burnt-out old guy. He's a university professor, fer chrissakes. It does pain me to admit that while I have a lot of confidence in Spielberg, I've lost it in Lucas. Then again, if the script is crap, Harrison may point out that "you can write this shit, but you can't say it."
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this kid is pretty smart and/or lucky.... Getting himself attched to two HUGE 100 million dollar plus franchises. His agent must be shedding tears of joy!
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And Saving Private Ryan. Lost World too. The Terminal!
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..where Indy is running from the battle Droids and he sees his son and is like "Get down!". Then his son is like "Weesa go to Gungan city!" and Indy will be like "You were banished for being clumsy??"
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This kid annoys me like hell. I don't care about Indy's kids, just show Indy.
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..where shialalh lebouf introduces Indy to...wait for it...HIS PET SNAKE, BINKY!!!! COS INDY HATES SNAKES!!! IMAGINE IT!! HAHAHA
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I don't see why I should trust this rumor more or on a higher degree, only because fucking VARIETY reports on it. As far as I've read so far their details aren't any more trustworthier than aicn or chud's. In addition to that I don't think we should be that sure about the SON-thing. Is mori's and faraci's source actually that sure about the son aspect of the scoop? Who knows, maybe SON is his characters "working title" or something. Errr...ok, that would be pretty weird.
The only thing this Variety story may indicate is, that LaBeouf didn't ruin his own gig by spilling the beans about it himself before anything was 100 % sure and thus letting legions of fanboys and -girls in on the process.
Maybe, however, I'm wrong and still have a lot to learn about the filmnews market...
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and that was nearly 20 years ago. it'd be nice if Lucas and Spielberg did something truly old school like Raiders or even Temple o' Doom. but my instincts tell me it's gonna be more like Crusade, with schlocky family moments. will Indiana have to rescue his kid at some point? you bet.
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is still better than most other movies. and spr and AI are NOT bad spielberg, let alone bad movies.
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... where Indy drops his hat and his kid picks it up for him. and then everyone laughs, and somebody hugs the dog which is also called Indiana.
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does anybody recall a few years back when AFI did a special on the favorite movie heros of all time. INDY came in second, which means he's in the hearts and minds of alot of now grown up men who watched the movies when they were younger.but instead lucas in going to play to a younger crowd and just mess it up. this is fucked up...i'am very pissed
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Now if they cast either of these guys as Shia's friend or guardian, that would be awesome. If not, I'd be disappointed. You know -- Short Round needs to be somewhere in the mix.
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Who cares!? We don't need alil teeniebopper runnin around. Why does Sirsteve always have this in his movies. If that kid starts doin gymnastics and knocks out nazis/raptors/stormtoopers/badguys....I WILL WALK OUT OF THE THEATRE. Whick by the way i have never done....Even for battlefield "puke" earth.
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AI is terrible fucking spielberg. in fact, AI would be a crappy film by anyone's standards, except maybe uwe boll's.
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WHY???????????? Somebody start a petition....PLEASE!!NOW!!!!
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Indy has always been up there in the top two or three in the pantheon of movie heroes. With this announcement, I am officially pissed off. I won't pay to see the movie and don't care to know more about it. Closed minded? Yes. LeBeouf is a one-dimensional actor who has had plenty of chances to shine and failed each time. He is The Surreal Life waiting to happen.
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At the age Indy's gonna be in this movie, you could have cast Nathan Fillion in the Indy Jones the 3rd role and easily segued into new adventures in future movies. Instead, we get Shia LeBouf. What fun THIS is.
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oh no. my post is completely grammatically and structurally fucked up.
if they really think it is a good idea to bring in a young male indy figure to appeal to young audiences or balance the grittier age aspect I'll be pissed too. i want this film to be rough and rather dark. -
Best character in the prequels by a long stretch. What a shame George Lucas wimped out and cut his part down in Clones and Sith. It would be great to see him crop up in this new Indiana Jones 'pic'. He'd be up to all his old tricks, standing in poo and whatnot, dropping Indy's archeology equipment all over the place."Meesa gettin berry berry scared, Indy.""I'm too old for this shit."Hilarious!
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I have no interest in anything he writes. Steven Spielberg is a bit of a whore these days too...he's got billions and he is clearly doing this movie just for a fat paycheck as he knows it won't be great.
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You've got good instincts, good sources, or both.
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...and the kid will die in act I? Ah, who'm I kidding? I'm not going to pay to see this piece of shit idea anyway. Last Crusade, while not a perfect Indy movie, ended the trilogy perfectly. There's just no need to revisit him at all.
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And besides, Lucas is a grade A tool.
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Boy, those movies do not hold up well at all. Better left as a pleasant memory. Really.
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Here's hoping someone opens the Ark of the Convenant and the Wrath of God smites all of Spielberg's cameras as he attempts to film this crapfest to end all crapfests.
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Please, let Marion be in the script!
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It all depends on the script folks, it all depends on the script. The director is legendary, the actors are legendary, and the characters are well - you know. The quality of this movie will fall on two factors, George Lucas' involvement and the script. You can get the best actors in the world in front of the camera, but if the dialog sounds forced and the jokes are stale and overused, we get another shitty sequel. It's that simple.
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in STAR WARS 2?
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It's a passing the torch movie (and fire means life). Hopefully puberty will finish with him before they start shooting. He was a great "kid" in Holes which was a unique and great flick alongside Secondhand Lions. As kids these guys are good to great, but for a lot of them the adult years are not kind. In some of the IMDB shots he has Ford's look mixed with something from the Middle East and Indy does spend time in North Africa and the Middle East so . . . It makes me tired that a core icon in movies as Indy needs a crutch to tell his last story, but its sounding like more of a melencholy flick to me now then a action packed romp. Don't forget the Nazis. Indy needs Nazis or he ain't kickin' ass.
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Doom has some dodgy effects and some misplaced humor and Crusade feels like a Sci-Fi Channel remake of Raiders... But there is NOTHING about Raiders that doesn't still stand up today. It is the pinnacle of its genre and probably always will be. Near perfect movie.
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Man you guys must be kids how can you forget this piece of garbage. I mean HOward the duck...quack...quack and a duck condom???? I never post but to the person who cant see the speilberg is just as flawed as the rest of us then you ar blind.
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Howard the Duck was way ahead of it's time. It is a masterpiece, with shades of Dali's Un Chien Andlou, and hints of Citizen Kane. It was beautiful, sad, and funny. We need this movie just to affirm how money can drive people to do anything.
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Man you fuckers crack me up. You whine about transformers and indiana jones and all the other parts of your childhood. Get this, you´re NOT 10 years old any more. You´re 30 something. Getting Jet Set Willy playing on a emulator is amazing, but it sure aint fucking fun to play. This site has nothing to do with the love of movies and all about having a time-machine warping you back 20 years. George Lucas writes stories for kids, not adults.
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for Shia The Beef. And as we all know, beef comes from cows. And cows also make milk. And, during the making of Raiders, George Lucas once drank a glass of milk. It's like it's come full circle, really.
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Not many reasonably well-known actors would take time out to remonstrate us Ain't It Cool time wasters. What would we do without you? Yousa is pretty okey day, as Jar Jar Binks might say.
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George makes movies for money. star wars was good when i was 10 after that it's a waste of time
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No point repeating what everyone else is already saying, but in my mind it's not specifically the fact that Shia LeBeouf is being cast that is a bad omen for this film, it's the fact that Indiana Jones has a son. My expectations for this film to be great have plummeted faster than my expectations for a Peter Jackson-less HOBBIT film to be anything but complete rubbish.
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What the hell does Spielberg have to do with Howard the Duck? Lucas, yes. Spielberg,no.
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Nice. I see your point I think while they were belting out howards the duck the word "rosebud" was on the drum.
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prove me wrong....dammit
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They will probably make him insecure and passive - the opposite of Dad. And he'll get some grandfatherly advice from Connery, too. Geez, this will suck.
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it was the name of his favorite pond on his home planet. I've heard rumor of a deleted scene where Howard tosses George's salad while he laughs at the 35 year old men dressed up like stormtroopers giving each other a circle jerk to the preview for Episode 1
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The Goonies
Flight of the Navigator
The NeverEnding Story (part 1)
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Why do film makers need to cast this kid as every god damn side kick to every big film now days?
Hes such a terrable-annoying actor and has ruined every film he's in.Thank god he died in constatine,that was my favorite part. -
The Exorcist, Bad News Bears, Stand By Me...
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... this movie is about a father in search of his son." RighteousBrother you are a genius, sir. I can actually hear Lucas preaching that shit already. Also, it is fairly obvious that this is going to be cliché in the extreme in regards to the son being embarrassed by his father and, after joining him on an adventure, learning to love him. I'll say it one last time - fuck you Lucas for throwing out Darabont's script you bloody wanker.
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Amistad? Seriously, the film was shit.
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The Toxic Avenger, when they ran over the kids head and it exploded. That was pure gold
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Dreamworks Presents Spielbergs Adventures of Tintin. Yuck.
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and they'll just make this into a videogame instead.
there is nothing right with the notion of a 4th Indiana Jones film, especially this. -
Always, The Terminal, The Lost World, Hook, The Color Purple...
But more importantly, who wants to see the 65 year-old Harrison Ford walking through his scenes?
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There, I said it. It is the definitive Indiana Jones flick. Everyone likes to suck Raiders cock because of the nostalgic value. But in reality The Last Crusade is the superior film. It fixed what was broken in Raiders, and that’s character development.
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...in the opening scene.
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Honestly.
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There, that's better.
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Juggfucker is a complete asshole.
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should start doing those diabetes commercials with Wilford, i think that's about his speed now
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"What smells like cheese? I need my medicine! You never come visit anymore!"
"Gee, pop, you know how busy I been."
"Can ya empty my bedpan before you go?" -
Kanye West is E.T. in E.T. 2 : Aliens don't care about Black People
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...You lewd, crude, rude, bag of pre-chewed food, Dude. BANGERANG! Um. Anyone?
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The only way this will even remotely be DECENT will be if Indy doesn't know about him. Seriously, if this turns into a "INDY AND HIS LOVING SON" fare, it's gonna suck.
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cause in the last 3 minutes, Shortround jumps out from behind a boulder and disembowels them both, then walks off into the sunset with his gay lover
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Sorry. Slapstick, ruining Brody's character, rehashed story structure, dodgy blue-screen work, pedestrian cinematography... The list goes on. Crusade is a FUN film... yes. But Raiders is a PERFECT film. And if you are referring to the River Phoenix sequence as "character development" then I'm at a loss. There is no development in 15 minutes of running down a checklist of who Indiana Jones is and boiling the whole of characterization down to the events of a single afternoon.
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All of you can't stomach a Spielberg or Lucas film unless it has an alien in a bike-basket or a lightsaber the way YOU want it.
Good Lord. There's so much decent cinema you're missing with your head up your ass.
Do us all a favor: Step away from the keyboard and read a book. Otherwise, JUST WATCH THE MOVIE, ya virgin, fanboy dork douches! -
Mar 08, 2007 9:44:27 AM CST
Hook was one of the formative movies of my childhood...
by polyesterrage
Which is why I'm now irrationally terrified of crocodiles, worship the band Rufio, constantly wear green tights and collect marbles. Thanks Spielberg! And Shia Labeouf rules, everyone else drools.
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Go watch rudy again. Look for the homosexual undertones, call your parents, exit your closet. j/k I agree with ya
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Do you live alone or in your parents basement as well?
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...old man Indy/Ford jokes certainly do. Oh so easy to come up with, and oh so not funny anymore. Jar Jar, well, that's a different story. If y'all think that Indy will be old and useless throughout the movie, then you're as wrong as wrong can be. He's Indiana Fuckin' Jones, not Charlie's Grandpa Joe! And what's with all of the Shia bashing? He'll do just fine. He'll even bring Transformers up a notch, I tell you. Like someone said above, it all comes down to the script. A good Indy script will give us a good Indy movie, straight up! And I betcha that Shia will be Indy and Marion Ravenwood's son. Karen Allen's supposed to cameo in the film after all.
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You can't take my happy thoughts, sucka.
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tights and a marble collection sounds like years of furious masturbation
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you wish.
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If all goes well We may see Shia Lebeouf as TinTin. ARRRRRRRgggggg
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since I'm married and get to have sex with someone other than myself
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Shia Leboeuf hate.
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Hayden Christensen has been cast as the antagonist apparently. Aheheheheehehehehehehehe wouldn't that be funny if true? nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu baaaaaaaaaaaaa
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What's the matter? Couldn't get Hayden Christianson?
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Why is no one mentioning how hard Temple of Doom sucked? Or will all the fanboys suddenly start suffering from slective memory loss like they did concerning the quality of the original SW trilogy? Remember when Return of the Jedi was the episode everyone loved to hate? Then comes EPI and suddenly all three original films are above reproach? Temple of Doom was shit. Talk about cousin Oliver syndrome! Hello Short-Round yo? I can already see this happening. Now that there is a new film coming, all three original Indy films will be treated like high art, when all us real Indy fans have been lamenting Temple of Doom, (and to a lesser extent The Last Crusade), for years. sheesh.
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I'm not a Temple of Doom fan, so you can't sell me with the idea of a kid being in that movie. I thought that Harrison/Connery played well of each other in Last Crusade. If LaBoeuf has the acting chops, this could work. Just don't bog his character down with the clueless "stumbling in and out of trouble" personality and it'll be fine.
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http://films.thelot.com/films/30017
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THIS MOVIE WILL ROCK ANYWAY. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO HE WILL PLAY.
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"with shades of Dali's Un Chien Andlou" You must be joking right? That piece of art-house trash was worse than terrible and is now a modern day excuse for liberal hippie Community College professors to feel deep and meaningful
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All the IJ movies sucked so hard. No point, worst hero ever. He has a whip. Woopty fuckin' doo. needless to say Indy's fear of snakes, was really his fear of wanting penis in his mouth, esp. Sean Connery's
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Lucas Blows.
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It is called sarcasm. I was comparing it to Howard the Duck. Come on dude, not that hard
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You forgot to mention that they turned Sallah (sp?) into an idiot right along with Marcus. It may have also been slightly rascist that Sallah was now running around in his little fez and stealing camels...
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No gag reflex is more like it imo
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at this point our only hope is that Ford brakes his hip before shooting begins.
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I mean .... yeah - he has imagination and the ability to "create" some great story lines but he's death incarnate to anything he has his fat mitts in. I'm sure Speilberg wants to make a great flick but fucking Chin Chops wants one for the kiddies. The berg has to bow since Lucas is the originator. Sucks!And any movie with the oblitory "kid" in it just pisses me off. I looked forward to this - really did - but I hope Speilberg can do some magic "rewrites" while Lucas is raping some other franchise and do it right. Also - Lost World was on the best times I had in the movies - the dino in San Diego, yet not in the book - cracked me up! It was like King Kong again. The Asians yelling "Godzilla". Awsome!
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You all act like this is the kiss of death or something. This isn't the same as adding the little kid to the Blues Brothers sequel or even close to "Short-Round" as a little kid side-kick. This guy is 21 years old. He's college age. He's also a damn good actor. He's NOT going to be in there for the cute factor. My bet is there's going to be conflict between him and Indy which mirrors the same conflict that Indy has with HIS father. Stop with this bullshit on here.
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What kind of fucking retarded space aliens are in charge of this project? FUCK.
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Sorry bro, Sarcasm was lost on these internet ears LOL. Sometimes its hard to tell when people are being serious as lately some people are defending some absolutely horrid flicks. So Howard the Duck wouldn't surprise me... my bad
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Schindler's List....hilariooooous!
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Nothing about this makes me want to see it. IF they were using another actor to continue his adventures a la Bond, now we are talking. It's just not the same with Ford now, because, ya know, he's wicked old. The Last Crusade ended Ford's run well enough. It's time for Ford to give up the whip.
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He's too old to play the "kid" type in any movie now. If they were going for the obligatory "kid" they would have gone with a 12 or 13 year old, not a 21 year old.
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It's cool man, i understand. But if really believed that, i would probably have to hang myself
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no that wasn't sarcasm. I really do hate Indiana Jones movies
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I know I'll get killed for this, but Minority Report and War of the Worlds really ticked me off as a viewer. Sometimes, Spielberg lets his clinical need for a happy ending get in the way of good storytelling (War of the Worlds); other times he can't decide what kind of film to make, thought provoking or mindless action(Minority Report).
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is the women. Especially Kate Capshaw. If she wasn't in the Temple of Doom it would be perfect. Short-round and all...I'm going to trust Spielberg on this one and I hope it doesn't fall into any of those old father/son cliches, but I'm excited about this.
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AI hands down. Depressing as hell.
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and not a bad actor...a good fit for the sarcastic son of han solo...erm...indiana jones
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I have nothing against the guy, i think he was great in Even Stevens, but that was FREAKING EVEN STEVENS. He hasn't paid his dues, IMO, to be in such crazy blockbusters (assuming TRANSFORMERS and INDY4 are going to be blockbusters. hehe) but oh well... he was good in HOLES... and i didnt see ANOTHER FEEL GOOD GOLF MOVIE, but the trailer looked good...
so who knows. i like the guy, but i hope he's good in these roles, and he's not just getting these jobs because Steve likes him. grr.
Jones with a Son is hella gay, BTW. when did Jones ever have the time to settle down and have a brat?! lame. Han Solo is rolling in his space-grave. -
Well at least it can't be worse than the Last Crusade. OMfreakin'G! It could be! Blaaaaargh! Blaaaargh! uhhhhh uhhh... BLAAAAAAARRRRGGGHH! ... why..?
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i can't believe no one mentioned it. le bouf is great in it. though he looks nothing like ford, or river phoenix, for that matter
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Mar 08, 2007 10:45:41 AM CST
Bend over folks here comes another childhood raping
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
As the Emperor would say "I can feeeel the hate swelling in you" Instead that "Damn You Micheal Bay" crap why is there is no "Damn You George Lucas"? This guy is nothing but neck and dollar bills now. I was stoked for this movie but now I am worried. Lucas is no longer using the force and he hasn't in a long long time. He uses Ben Franklin's to guide his writing skills now.
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I'll agree with you, i can stand Raiders, but the rest is pure shit. Haven't seen Munich yet, but i'll eventually get around to it
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does anyone remember "The Monster Squad"? That movie fucking rocked the house. Esp. Rudy. with his kick ass leather jacket, and his tough as nails attitude with such inspired lines as "I'm in the god-damned club aren't I?"
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"Son, this is the finest skin joint in all of Morocco. Just suck the hookah and let Kashmir do her thing. Don't worry if you come to soon - she allows multiple bells."
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I love that fucking movie
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He takes every memory of everything good you had when you were a child and distorts it into something that completely ruins any experience you had. He's a fricking super villian and must be stopped. He WILL remake Jaws and cast Andy Dick in Robert Shaws role.
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They're supposed to finally be putting that out on DVD. This year, I think.
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Dude, if they do, i will seriously kill all the panda's with my bare hands. Cause wolfman's got nards
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"We have not come here to drink, Jar-Jar."
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He's one of my favorite directors, and i really like or love most of his films. But "The Lost World" and "The Terminal" were awful, horrible movies. His absolute worst.
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6:7 When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the fourth living creature saying, "Come and see!"
6:8 And behold, a pale horse, and he who sat on it, his name was Death. Hades followed with him. Authority over one fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword, with famine, with death, and by the wild animals of the earth was given to him. -
Mar 08, 2007 11:15:57 AM CST
Trust me, this movie will fail for A DIFFERENT REASON
by mel gibsteinberg
And that is that Spielberg will go to his tried and true BFF Cinematographer in Januz Kaminski (sp?) which will be the nail in the coffin for a Jones film. All of Indy's previous adventures came complete with that warm red glow, a massive orange sunshine, or a dark cave with a red wash of light from a torch or lava pit, all reminiscent of a 30's or 40's pulp serial cover. Ebert talked about this with his review for Crusade, that the opening images seemed to be dreamt from some 1946 Boy's Life cover. But with Januz, we can all anticipate a grainy washed out pallette, with overexposed sunlight, harsh white rooms, stark immediate backgrounds, and no Spielberg 80's glow. Think ET, Close Encounters, Raiders, Temple of Doom, Crusade, and then look at the non-directed Spielberg properties like Goonies, Poltergeist, Explorers, and Amazing Stories. All of them had this "firelight" aspect that gave off a sense of awe and wonder. Contrast that with Saving Private Ryan, War of the Worlds, Munich, Minority Report, AI, etc. Spielberg loves Kaminski, he has used him on every film since The Lost World, and though it may have worked on those films above, it won't work in a Jones film. It can't, it's too modern, it isn't a warm hand crafted, old fashioned style, it is an "in your face" immediate, raw style, and IT WON'T WORK!!! That is all.
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This movie will suck. It's confirmed now I hate this kid he is horrible the only reason he is an actor is because his family got him into the business. Also Munich was a great movie what are you people thinking?
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Even as producers, Spielberg's got the better product.
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and its funny how everyone here is bitching and moaning about a movie that is still a year away, and yet we have not heard what the movie is really about, how do we realy know he is indy's son and not someone that "might" be... or maybe indy doesnt know about him until almsot the end of the movie, who really knows, right? becasue the plot has not been made public officially.. christ, you're all bunch of whining fucktards, and the funny thing is, we all will be there opening day...
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and its funny how everyone here is bitching and moaning about a movie that is still a year away, and yet we have not heard what the movie is really about, how do we realy know he is indy's son and not someone that "might" be... or maybe indy doesnt know about him until almsot the end of the movie, who really knows, right? becasue the plot has not been made public officially.. christ, you're all bunch of whining fucktards, and the funny thing is, we all will be there opening day...
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The family drama scenes in it are incredibly bad. I know Speilberg filmed the whole movie in something like 11 days, but Good Lord those scenes are horrible. The bit with Cruise frantically making a peanut butter sandwich? Just awful and painful to watch.
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Very poor decision.
Awful nervy little who's voice STILL hasn't broke yet.
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Admittedly not a great character, he was a poor stereotype of Asian kids, and thrown into a Jones movie as a cute sidekick, but rarely do people bring that up when complaining about Temple, they usually have something else that bothers them. So Shia could work, it will just require quite a good story. But I am telling you, the failure will be when Spielberg uses Kamininski, HE WON'T WORK FOR JONES! Anyone else agree?
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Does his name refer to his cock? Maybe that's why he was hired on.
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Mar 08, 2007 11:48:09 AM CST
Close Encounters was Speilberg's finest hour not Munich
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Also why does everyone hate Last Crusade. I thought it was pretty good and better than Temple.
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ill name a bad spielberg movie JURASSIC PARK:THE LOST WORLD. that movie wasnt just "okay" the story was boring, the characters two dimensional and irritating, the audio was terrible (you could hardly hear what anyone was saying) the pacing was crap and the less said about the ending the better.
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because, you know... super smart dinosaurs that are like humans is cool. maybe they can transform into robits and use a whip or lightsaber. that would make them even better. *sigh*
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If they have to put offspring in the damn movie, they should at least get someone with acting chops and not just blow-dried hair and a cute smile! Fillon would have been a much better choice.
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Again I ask, why? Spielberg is my favorite film maker. We can quibble about which of his films are better than others, but no one can deny his innate talent. And as genre enthusiasts, we owe him our graditude. Raiders is one of my favorite movies. But I don't like this kid. I don't like his acting, and I certainly don't like the way he presents himself in interviews. Going by the casting, I'm assuming the dork gene skips a generation in the Jones family. Anyway, to the poster above who criticized the family drama in WOW, you may have a point, but that movie, particularly the first 30 minutes or so, is a textbook on how to build and sustain tension.
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E to the mother fuckin' T
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what if it is in suppository form?
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I don't have anything against Shia, I thought he did pretty well in Constantine, which is the only semi-major role I've seen him in (other than I, Robot, which doesn't count for shit), but Indy should have a daughter and we all know it. A badass daughter just like Marion. Oh well. They really should have just made 'Fate of Atlantis' be the plot of Indy 4... would be so much cooler (not that I've read the new script, but... Yea.)
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I know how good Variety usually is, but in the article it says neither Paramount or Lucasfilm have confirmed this story, so I shall still take it with a pinch of salt until the horses mouth speaks...
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Do NOT screw this up. . .
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until Act 3- where the typical "kid cant die" spielbergism kicked in. I was gonna say- the third act sells itself short with cliches, but where else could it have really gone? And I think Tim Robbins thought he was in a different movie. BUT that first scene where the tripod comes out of the ground...wow...you were right there with them. It really felt plausible, scary and so alien. Then the movie sells itself short with typical looking aliens. How fucking creepy would it have been if they were just like entities or ghosts or pure energy or something?! much better. Shia Le Bouf....I just have this feeling. Look put it this way. Spielberg...isnt that great at this kind of movie anymore. Dont get me wrong...he WAS the best, but if you look at AI, WoW, Minority Reporst (to a lesser extent) most of his recent genre works have been pretty flawed. The guy needs to just go with movies like Munich and Schindlers List as its clearly the route he wants to go. Hes outgrown the family film I think and it shows. Lost World being a prime example of just how BAD a movie can be when it tries to be something for everyone. Some good guys NEEDED to die in that movie..hell even a kid but they didnt - and without that...then theres no investment. How does this relate to Indy 4? Well....I dont think spielberg is interested in this kind of movie. Im hoping its a return to form, but with koepp on writing duty you can always expect middle of the road mediocrity.
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Spielberg usually have problems ending his movies, Munich, Schindler's List, War of the Worlds have bad endings. Minority Report has a lot of logic flaws in it, but that said it is still better than most movies by others.
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Totally agree with the initial Tripod coming out of the ground. That scene was intense. When he's in the bathroom wiping away the 'remains' of all the people who got incinerated...big cloud of 'dust' coming from the bathroom doorway...classic.
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because yknow...it wouldnt be so fucking predictable. Plus I want Indy to have the most screen-time. I want to see him being innovative and badass like raiders...not being acted off the screen by ott side characters. Give us something classy dammit. If its set in the 50's make it an homage to film noir or something.
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I believe that the bergs early work is his best. Jaws, et , raiders. Close encounters is spielbergs Masterpiece and is his Maganum opus. War of the World failed becuase, the film only had one location New York City and we only got a brief glimspe of the outside World. That movie brief flashes of brilliance but it was ultimately the Tom Cruise show, all other actors were left behind. No one has ever explained what tim robbins was doing in that movie because he brought nothing to the role and the movie, he was killed by cruise. What is this interstellar film i keep hearing about. The berg should at least make Night skies before he gets too old. I would love to see the berg do a really scary alien movie. Saw the host last night and I thought it was only ok. As for the Departed, very strong movie, wahlberg was superb as was Damon and Di caprio. Baldwin was amazing. Jack on set must have scared the other actors shitless and I had heard he wasnt easy to work with and it shows. One story was that he ordered the movie shut down because he noticed the crew were boston celtic shirts and think he is a nix fan. Then there were the endless -re-writes. Was the departed the best film of the year. I dont know because i havent seen Iwo Jima or Pan. so dont know. the departed. Queen was great though but I would argue that Dench was robbed, but she wasnt there on oscar night.
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If i paid my money, sat through an hour or so of a movie about aliens, and then out of the hatch comes pure energy, i think I would never again watch a movie about aliens
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did you mean me? I think you did- if so, I thought the ash scene was intense too. An alien invasion movie/ documentary was such a great idea. Just a shame it gets cliched toward the end.
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This just confirms we don't need another Indy movie. They will not write a compelling character, they will write a sitcom.
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Its Indy people, it will be fun and cool and in spite of your angst ridden, sad little protests thoes who are not bitter, pea brained, fuck heads will enjoy it.
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fair play...but at least they'd be really otherworldy. Visible energy I mean or something- which would add to the "how the fuck do we stop these things?".
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so what was wrong with the ending of schindler's list and munich?
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Indy 4 wont damage the other films retrospectively. It wont be like AvP or anything. I honestly think this movie will be really different from the others...so much in fact that its not going to hit many of the usual beats, therefore avoiding any kind of disadvantage. It'll be on its own terms. Im trying to think of a decent comparison...but all I can think of is Alien: Resurrection. Enjoyable as a stand-alone....theres something vaguely familiar to it..something you recognise...but its so different from the others as to seriously damage them. I reckon thats what Indy 4 will be like, but hopefully a better movie.
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I'm already worried about Indy 4 -- and I was just getting psyched after 20 years. We want the action to center around INDY -- NOT some new character -- even if it is his kid! Heck, ESPECIALLY if it's his kid!!!
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I meant. My excitement for this movie went down when I heard they were going with a koepp script (instead of the amazing darabont) and its gone down a bit more with the inclusion of a son...and shia le bouf- who I only find to be tolerable. Damn I was REALLY excited about this and have been following Indy 4 news for more years than I care to count.
It feels kinda crappy now to think..."oh well...Ill catch this and hope my childhood doesnt get raped." Heres hoping for some good news or some sweet production stills or something.
I'm sure it'll be worth it though. The beards never HAD to make this movie, so there must be something to the story thats made them decide to take the risk. I'm sure they all know that theres a seriously critical and devoted fanbase.
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Okay, I wasn't that crazy about a "Son of Indiana Jones" either (in the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, 94-year old Indy had a daughter -- I wonder if Indy will get an eyepatch in this movie) and I'm still in the toss-up category, but I just saw this picture of this guy from the Transformers movie and in it he looks like he could be Indy's son.
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I see your point and it's noted. I thought WoW was ok. It had so much potential too. I loved the set up. Just no real plot just putting you right into the situation. But I think that movie put too much attention into showing the alien ships and the power of CGI and should have focused more on the suspense of character. Not showing the Aliens would have been just as good
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...I still think most of ROTJ blows. As a whole, I enjoyed Phantom Menace more than Jedi (which is a little like saying I prefer getting a charlie horse to a sack punch, but there it is). As for Temple of Doom, it's not my favorite of the Indy films but I recognize its place in the mythos. It's a younger Indy going balls to the wall in old-fashoned matinee serial style. It's less "believable" than Raiders (with the latter film's more mainstream mythological and magical trappings as well as a much more historically relevant enemy in the Nazis), but it works if viewed before Raiders (where Indy's already complaining about his age and, more specifically, mileage). In that sense, Last Crusade is an excellent end-cap. Very much the antithesis of Temple in terms of magical horseplay and the scope of Indy's stunts (all the better to reflect his still advancing age and cynicism) and, much as Temple "begins" the trilogy in the tradition of classic cinema icons (I know it was a prequel, but I'm talking about viewing the movies in chronological order here), Crusade ends on a perfect Hollywood note (like Casablanca, the hero walks/rides off into the sunset with a new friendship instead of a blossoming romance). Anything Lucas and Spielberg could add to the Indy mythos at this point would be unnecessary and serve only to further water down the character. I'd prefer a Clone Wars style animated serial set before Temple to any sort of theatrical endeavor. But maybe that's just me.
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What are you smoking? Raiders is a CLASSIC man.
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I'll bet that Marion is the mom. She and Indy had another falling out post-Raiders and she wound up pregnant, raising their son on her own, never telling Indy about him.
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The biggest problem is that this cash-in is being made at all! I'm a fan of the existing Indy films, flaws and all. I;d ove to see another one, but not under these conditions. Lucas and Spielberg have changed since the 80's (one of them particularly for the dementia-like worse. Fuckin Jar-Jar, Lucash???) Ford's gotten older and this movie is purely about a way for Paramount to cash-in on an existing franchise- a popular optionfor Hollowood (yes, intentional) these days considering how many remakes and reboots, etc there are now. And Lucasfilm needs something else big at the box office now that the Prequels are done. I'm not thrilled with LaBirth as an actor in general, but who knows what the story is for this film. Maybe it'll be okay. For anyone who hasn't already sworn off this film, my advice is to keep your expectations very, very low, and you might just not be overly disappointed. That's how I made it through Superman Returns.
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staring Larry the Cable guy as rufus the loveable Incan Dabloon, who sings Indy a song about responsiblities as a new parent. Music by Randy "I'll write the same song for every fuckin' movie" Newman
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...and he's exactly what you would imagine.
It's all these little Disney pricks being groomed for global domination...don't say you weren't warned!! -
Bad idea to do Indy's son. They should cast Evageline Lilly as Indy's daughter -- that'd be more interesting dramatically....
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who did you work with?
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...figure it out!! Who's the story about?! I can't give you all the pieces, they'll know!! They'll know!!! He likes to get people fired!!!
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it's not Indy...he's a fictional character.
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First Lucas rapes my childhood with SW:SE, then the prequels, now him and Spielberg are continuing this trend with Indy Jones and the Ravages of Age! There should be a statute of limitations for when a sequel should be made. This would have saved me from the dissapointment of episodes 1-3, Godfather 3, and so on!
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ON SET OF BAY'S TRANSFORMERS
MICHAEL BAY
And...cut! That was a great take, Shia.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
Thanks, Mr. Bay. Working with such a well-respected director like you and being in a movie with all these giant robots sure is wizards!
MICHAEL BAY
Shia, I have some bad news.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
Gee, Mr. Bay, what is it?
MICHAEL BAY
Well, remember how you first got into this movie?
SHIA LA BENDOVER
You won me from Uwe Boll in that poker game. Gosh, I was ever so lucky too. He wanted to put me in one of his movies.
MICHAEL BAY
Yes, well, I was down to my last nickel at the poker table last night and it came down to giving the guy who one the ole' cock-gobbling or give up something of even more value to this guy.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
So, what'd you do?
MICHAEL BAY
I kinda sorta lost you to somebody else.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
No more big robots?
MICHAEL BAY
Your new master is on his way over right now, actually.
STEVEN SPIELBERG approaches and extends an open handshake to Shia.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
Wizards! Director Steven Spielberg!
SPIELBERG
Hello, Shia. I want to make you an offer.
Shia immediately drops to his knees in front of Spielberg, closes his eyes, and opens his mouth.
SPIELBERG
There'll be plenty of time for that later, son. I've got another project for you.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
I'll do anything for you, Sir. Anything.
SPIELBERG
Be in my movie. We're going to make another Indiana Jones and I need you for it.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
But Ford's gotten so old. How will you ever attract the youth of today?
SPIELBERG
That's where you come in, my nubile, young friend.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
Gosh, sir, that's such a big movie. I sure don't want to piss off any old school fans of your franchise.
SPIELBERG
Rubbish. If there's one thign I've learned from my friend George Lucas it's that the old school fans will bitch and bitch and bitch when you change things you loved about your films. But they always end up shelling out for them anyway. See how much those prequels made, didn't you?
SHIA LA BENDOVER
So, I get to be the new Indy!
SPIELBERG
Not exactly. See, the studio and I recognize this film will only get made if the gross receipts support the budget. In order to do that, we have to secure the interest a certain demographic. Your demographic, Shia. We can't make this film profitable without attracting all your peers and their little brothers and sisters to this film.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
Wizard.
SPIELBERG
So, now you see what your destiny must be. Join me, and together we can ruin a perfectly good franchise as father and son!
SHIA LA BENDOVER
Huh?
SPIELBERG
Oh, shut up. You will be Jones' son. And I will singlehandedly shove this new Indiana Jones down the throat of America. Of the world, really.
SIA LA BENDOVER
But, sir, that sounds like a shitty thing to do to the people who genuinely appreciated the original films.
SPIELBERG
Shia, you can stay and get paid. And be the heir apparent of the Indiana Jones legacy. Or you can defy me and find yourself in a place called Obscurity faster than that kid who played Rufio in Hook.
Spielberg draws a small blade and slashes Shia's arm.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
Ahh! What the hell?
Spielberg pushes Shia's thumb into the fresh wound and pulls out a film contract.
SPIELBERG
Put your thuimbprint on this signature page.
Shia complies. A deep red thumbprint remains on the contract.
SPIELBERG
It is done. Production starts, allegedly, in June.
SHIA LA BENDOVER
But what if I-
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what i thought
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Mori linked ot a photo where this kid is actually smiling. Wow. I thought he was incapable of expression. His forced delivery appears to contain more botox than a press conference with Nancy Pelosi.Since they're evidently looking at former kiddie show stars, is it too late to cast Amanda Bynes as Indy's progeny? Imagine *her* with a whip. MROOWWRR!!
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This movie will end with Indy's son placing the fucking fedora on his head whilst looking at his father's open grave. It'll look like he's gonna throw the hat in but he'll put it on like a motherfucker and we'll hear the 'sad' Indy theme for like the billionth time. Marion will walk up and kiss him, then they'll both walk away, then the last shot will be some birds/pteranodons flying over the sea.
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i hate shia, i love indie, i was so excited about this. i probaly will see it but there's no way i'll like it unless shia is a totally handicapped legs arms and head and talks in one word sentences.
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DAMN!!! Wow, that was good.
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I saw that movies Holes when it was on at xmas, LaBeof played the lead and he was fine, that's what I'm holdin onto as this movie has the potential to be fallin down several holes. BTW loooong time reader 1st time poster, you guys have got some hilarious s**t goin on. Bronx cheer wherever you are you, you had me pissin myself last two nights with your tributes to D.KA2007 OR WHATEVER HE WAS called
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sorry. dont really murder him. so i dont go to jail for egging you on. but really, murder him.
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http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ remove the space because as we all know, spaces are the punctuation of the lame.
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He was really good. Give the kid a break, he can pull it off. Anyway, it's Harrison I'm worried about. Firewall was abysmal.
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*throws up a little bit in my mouth* yea this is either gonna be a fun family film or a disaster of "zorro returns" proporitions (see, i couldnt even remember the title of the zorror sequel!).
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in the tradition of Leprachaun and Jason, this summer, Indy goes to Space
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that also drinks wine like zorro 2 than shia labeuf as a sidekick. shortround was a boy sidekick, its been done. lets go in another direction. a young girl sidekick would even be more original. unless he's not indies son or sidekick but like his enemy or annoying student in the beginning.
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that Zorro2 movie, went to see the 1st one with my nephew an was pleasantly surprised an entertained. I don't wanna even see Connery in this one never mind the kid. Thought Connery was good in crusade, but keep im there, he was good for the story, don't put him in just cause he's still alive.
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Indy in da Hood, starring Ice-T. He aint afraid to whip a bitch
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Damn you Michael Bay
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There's been no reminder of this fact on this website for a while. Just cuz all of our dedicated webmasters have seen it multiple times at personal screenings doesn't change the fact for the rest of us lowly few.
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ha! ha! awesome!
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He has a surrogate son in Temple of Doom with Short Round, he gets reunited with his father in Crusade, for the last hurrah they almost have to give him a son. It's the go to "fresh idea" for venerated franchises. I expected it so I'm not surprised. Hopefully the script will make some sort of sense but I'm betting the kid will have gotten himself into a jam and Indy has to put on the hat one last time to save him. As for the relic I'm guessing Excalibur but who knows. Even when Spielberg is collecting a paycheck his movies are still pretty stunning to look at and they are never mediocre. Lost World wasn't particularly good but it was better then the horrible book. I have faith Indy 4 will not trash the franchise's legacy but beyond that it's all guessing until we know what the hell it's about.
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1941, His segment of Twilight Zone the Movie (Kick the Can), Most of Amazing Stories, Always, Hook, The Lost World, Amistad, Private Ryan after Omaha Beach, The last 30 minutes of A.I., Catch Me if You Can, Minority Report, War of the Worlds, and Munich. Oh, and The Terminal.
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How about "told you about Cap's death," or at least mentioned it to give the grieving fans of Captain America some way to express their pain.
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What ever happened to Indy having a DAUGHTER?! If Sean Connery joins this mess, it will be the second movie where he played grandpa with two other generations of men. (remember "Family Business"?) Oh well, at least we'll always have "Raiders".
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Catch Me if You Can, Minority Report, War of the Worlds, and Munich all fell apart in the last 30 minutes. They seemed to go on forever.
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If you had three indispensable psychics would you put them in a tub with a drain big enough for them to flow down it, and out into an alley or wherever it was it went? Seriously.
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Seriously, Ford in FIREWALL was literally embarrassing and it's clear he's at that groan inducing point that Roger Moore was at in VIEW TO A KILL, where it was painful to see him in action as Bond. On the flip side, Shia will utterly suck and take screen time away from Indy, not to mention the whole POINT of having a "young lead" to fill seats is a clear indication that will be a truth no one can argue with. As someone said way back in this thread, you went to a movie like RAIDERS to specifically see an ADULT in action, not some teenbopper. There's no rule that says today's under 25 crowd won't come to a movie if it stars an over-25 year old.I've argued it before, I still FIRMLY believe it, but it's clear Lucas and Speilberg -- with the able help of a total hack like Koepp -- are set on shitting all over the Indiana Jones franchise. It's really a shame. These dolts should have seen CASINO ROYALE and realized just how much a reboot can completely reenergize a franchise, and realized that after all these years that the public really doesn't give a shit about Ford anymore, and that the average theater goer would simply rather see 3 all-new, big budget summer adventures with a new Indy in place.
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I don't get it... why does everyone hate this Shia dude? I mean like - how could he bring the movie down? He was pretty cool in Constantine. Its not like they based their decision on his acting in "Jingle All The Way" - if ya know what I mean...
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Oh, and for those that argue Spielberg is still the master and can handle the whole son angle...or introduction of a young kid into the mix...all I can mockingly say is, yeah, he did SOOO WELL introducing Malcolm's politically correct gymnastic daughter in LOST WORLD, and you seriously can't tell me that you didn't want to just hand Tom Cruise's kids over TO the martians in WAR OF THE WORLDS given what utter shitty brats they were for the entire film.Will I ultimately see this? Of course. I love my big budget summer movies to get out of the house. Hell, it's my favorite time of the movie year. But am I also expecting this to completely suck ass to an all-new level? You betcha!
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Sorry to those not interested but:http://tinyurl.com/3xzy4u
It will be a reimagining and not a prequel. They still mention involvment from Shatner and Nimoy, but I don't see how the hell that can be the case if it's not part of the existing history of Trek.
I think they are just mooting the Shatner/Nimoy thing around so as to keep long term fans interested long enough to get them hooked with a sexy teaser trailer.
I was really exited about this, now not so if it's going down the reimagining route.
Check out the link for the full story.
Oh, and sorry to any Indy fans who I've pissed off.
I happen to like Trek and Indy (as I'm sure many of us do) and I didn't know where else to post this.
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And I agree, speilberg has never made a truly bad film, although he has made several subpar ones...
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Spielberg and Lucas just seem to have this obsession with killing franchises in their old age. And there is no talking them out of it. I 'll wait on this one, and just read all the bad reviews as they come pouring in, and then read all the "Raped my childhood" posts from fanboys that went and saw it anyway.
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to be Indy's son!
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i don't care if the kid is the second coming of Lawrence Olivier, i want an indiana jones movie, not meet the Joneses.
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This kids a total dork!!! I HATE HIM! I hate his nose. His voice! His dumb curly hair. He started on nickelodeon show or some crap. He can't be Indy's son. This Indy movie could be what the SW Prequels are to the original SW Films. Bad writing. Bad acting, teen dorks and too much CGI!
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I had no idea who this guy was before today, but after sticking him into google images he sure looks a shit load like Ford.
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Not only is she beatiful. The idea that Indy has a daughter being the macho hero and the whole daughter having to prove herself to indy would have worked brillantly. She could get kidnapped and escape. Indy comes to accept her girlie ways. Instead we're gonna get a Zorro-esk type thing where Indy's son says something like. Don't mess with my dad! *throws up in mouth*
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Maybe great but that's up to him. Yeah looking at Ford more carefully I saw a resemblance to Shia and not the other way around, but it's there. I can totally see him carrying on the franchise, come to that. But for all we know they will pull a "Wrath of Khan."
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P.S. Lucas will never work with Portman again.
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Shia's little brother, Sunni, wants to break into the business. Word has it, though, they've been fighting for years. Apparently they don't get along with eachother.
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But could we get a Trek movie not being a reimagining news talkback?
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The real problem is that your neighbor had a pet bear in the first place.
I can't really get too worked up about the casting or the story angle when the real problem is that the movie is being made in the first place. I honestly can't imagine a story angle or a casting decision that would make the idea of a 60 year-old Indiana Jones running around in the 1950's remotely appealing. The Star Wars prequels at least sounded like a good idea. This just sounds like a misguided money-grab.
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INDY: I have a son? When?
MARION: Remember that night on the boat?
INDY: I thought I fell asleep!
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Before people start flipping their lid over his being in this movie, please check out A Guide to Recognizig Your Saints. He was superb in the lead role and the movie itself is wonderful...a real sleeper. If you like Mean Streets or A Bronx Tale...its essential viewing. I loved it.
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Errr...so I hear. Anyway, hopefully his character is written so that he doesn't fucking RUIN IT. But that's going to have to be some damn fine writing + acting, because just looking at that guy makes me irritated. Call it haterism, but we all know what happens when cute-faced kids make it into a Lucas production. Just representin'.
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Damn it I love it when a Talkback pulls its head out of its ass for one moment to let a little funshine come streaming in.
As to the casting of this kid, first of all, how do we know he's Indy's kid? Secondly, even if he's not his kid but plays that sort of character, so the hell what? He might actually be good. And since you've not seen the SCRIPT--none of you have seen the script--why don't you back of the kid, and try backing off the lame slurs.
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Cause short rounds was amazing, butttt, short rounds had the proper cool age to be a kid on the adventure kinda goonies effect. Shia le Steak is like 20 years old and I wonder if that'll work out because obviously you gonna get this; dad it's time for you to let go of me, trusth me kinda crap. Or not, what am I bitching I don't know shit about the script so I'll just keep my judgement till I've seen the flick. And finky089, frikkin funny.
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I hope it's going to be a son that Indy did not know of. Something like that. Somebody Indy can not really deal with . Maybe a "product" of Indy/Willy or Indy/Marion....
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and Indy will chase one of their ships on foot, snap his whip and hook onto a strut, and he'll bring down the ship and it'll crash. The kid gets the anal probe--that's just for the fans.
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Why wouldn't Lucas work with Portman again? The Vanity Fair interview?
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for all the obvious reasons. She was lucky and smart. Good payday and she can walk away with from the movies and simply point to George as an excuse for her performance. And every one would buy it.
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instead of nazis and the teen from i-robot, indi aged realistically, has a grown up son in his late twenties if need be, and we have indi making his way through communist russia and china, circa 1970s? this would span all the great sort of classic locales to from jungles in south west china, to middle-east persian places where uzbekistan?
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We don't know ANYTHING about this movie other than it was the one script in over a decade of pre-production Hell that managed to please all parties involved. Who gives a FUCK if Indiana has a son so long as it's a good movie?
No one here can say ANYTHING about the quality of this film. There's been no script reviews, no screen shots, no nothing. The only thing we DO know is that this is the first time Spielberg, Lucas, and Ford have all reunited in nearly 20 years.
And the Lucas bashing is getting old. Grow up. The guy can't write dialogue, but the fact is that when he and Spielberg collaborate, magic happens.
Do you guys realize that this the director of Jaws, E.T., Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, etc. and the vision behind American Graffiti, Star Wars, and Raiders of the Lost Ark? Does that mean shit to you guys? Do you have trouble sleeping at night if you don't get a chance to tear something to shreds?
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So quit assuming he's a kid sidekick.
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...and reboot the series. It worked for 007 many times. I'm not so confident Ford can pull it off and I really don't want to watch two hours of him talking out of the side of his mouth like Drew Barrymore. Anyone else notice that annoying characteristic Ford's picked up?
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WTF NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fuck this movie! id hate to be 12 years old and come to this site thinking the Star Wars prequels or LOTR were movies that changed my life!
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is how one piece of casting makes so many of them jump to their own obvious, cliched conclusions about what the story will be, and then criticise the film makers for being so obvious and cliched. Hence we get "oh he's just another kid sidekick" "oh Indy's going to pass the hat to his son to carry on their adventures" etc etc ad nauseum. People need to stop assuming the film makers will fall back on these shitty, hackneyed ideas that you lot are spouting, and trust that they are going to write something, you know, original!
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90% of the time they are fucking right. Allow me to let you in on a secret good captain. We are dealing with hollywood here. There is no place on Earth where good storytelling is thrown out the window for no reason whatsoever, at the most confounding times, and by the most surprising people. I live in Hollywood and trust me it's common knowledge how fucked hte system is. Not only that but after a lifetime of devouring films and watching rumors we hope arent true come to fruition only to hold out hope and then be crushed when you find that you were right to begin with I think we are very well within our rights to jump to conclusions. In fact if there is one business on Earth where it is demanded that one jumps to conclusions it's the entertainment business. And look at the people involved Harrison Ford, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg. Ford has done so little and what little he has done in the past few years has been crap. Lucas, Jesus where to begin. The man is a bona fide hack. I'm not sure if there is anyone involved in film right now in which that term applies to more, maybe Brett Ratner but that's it. he's pathetic and calling him an artist is an insult to artists. He created something wonderful once indeed, but then single handedly deconstructed 25 years of good will with literally three of the worst films ever made. Spielberg. He's a bit tougher. One one hand he made Munich, which was brilliant, ont eh other hand any genre film he has done int he past ten years has been pretty bad. War Of the Worlds especially showed quite a bit of pandering to an audience. And by introducing an inevitably wisecracking son it cetainly sounds like pandering. SPielberg also had a hand in Tranformers, which is going to be a train wreck. If you don't think so you're a fucking moron, end of story. So Captain, if there is one thing we as film buffs are well within our rights to do in this situation it's expect the absolute worst cause you knoww hat, that's very likely exactly what we'll be getting.
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Rottentomatoes has it higher than 300.
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LaBoeuf can be good when he wants to be. Let's hope for this film, he wants to be.
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That idiot says, "and to remind you, ahem". I saw that rumor thing like two days after movies.com posted it first. I hate when others take credit when it's not due. Bitch asses, and quit complaining, it won't ruin the movie to cast shia lebouef - he's got more talent than a lot of the other actors his age. Would you have wanted them to cast some freaking nobody? No. So deal!
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Before I go on a rant I want to say that Shia LeBeouf was fantastic in "A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints", actually everyone except Robert Downey Jr. was surpising in it, I say that because Mr. Downey is incredible in everything he does, check out Zodiac and Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang.
I've only just began posting comments on here and have been a fan of the site for sometime, a sickeningly sizeable epidemic of morons seem to have taken over and as I posted in one other talkback regarding the movie Sunshine which people are bitching about mostly, these resentful, nauseatingly crude and transperant assholes make me ashamed to love and live movies to the extent that I do.
I'm going to school right now for screenwriting and it's enough to nearly compel me to just say fuck the whole thing, if i'm toiling away to tell a story (that i've put my heart and soul into mind you) to these fucking shameless creatons than I feel like choosing another career. By the way I love the site and look forward to a long and fruitful relationship with it in the future.
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An actor of Lee Marvin, Eli Wallach or Humphrey Bogart's calibre wouldn't get a look in nowadays. That's why todays movies are bullshit. I rest my case by predicting this movie will stink and i hope Connery has the good taste to say "NO!" (in a Scottish accent).
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for a long time. He seems to have backed off a little, and there seems to be more professionalism around here than there was even a year ago. I still have a serious problem with the sheer volume of bodily fluids found in the writing of Harry Knowles, but it seems he's starting to stem the flow, so I'll give it a chance.
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I've whinged about the New Years one, and the Oscars one, so well done guys - it is appreciated and I really enjoy watching and reading the new things you show.
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no matter how shitty because of all the things hinted at. Even though they sucked I was still interested in knowing the details of the story because of the love for the first one. They had to be made. This film, however, does not have to be made. They could have kept it at three and I would have been pleased. That means expectations are high and it better kick ass. I trust Spielberg, it's Lucas I'm shady about. Please, don't suck.
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Spielberg is hardly to be faulted or singled out for dealing with familial relationships thematically. It's one of the cornerstones of storytelling. And quite frankly, when you stop and think for thirty seconds about it, giving Indy a son allows us to see how his character responds to fatherhood considering how much he resented his father for never being around. I wonder if Indy's kid might have the same issues, and I wonder how Indy plans to deal with them.
The opportunity is there for these filmmakers to add some thoughtful character studies to a film that will no doubt feature some outlandish set pieces, and since Spielberg and Lucas especially have both matured a lot over the last twenty years, I would expect they might have some issues to tackle in this next film in the series. I sure hope they touch on the whole archeologist-as-grave-robber issue without letting Indy off the hook. It would be refreshing to see them work some social consciousness into the film. They're going to have a BIG audience. -
With the 300 film opening in North America on Friday, it'll be interesting to read both Mori and Harry's separate analysis / reviews of the 300 film, as I've already read one negative film critic review of it.
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How is it possible that there is a famous person named Shia LaBeouf and it is NOT a female pornstar?
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That has to be a trip for Mr. McWeeny, seeing advertisements for his professional work appearing on this site. (Don't anyone start ranting about conflict of interest; I only raised it because I was pleased for the man's success. It's a tough business to make it in.)
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It's pretty sensible strategy to introduce a son, as Harrison is obviously getting too old for his role (even though he could and should've done 2 or 3 more Indy films from 1989 up to now) and a younger and considerably cheaper actor than him can be signed on for 3 films, to take over the franchise if Indy 4 does extremely well, which it probably will.
I think they had planned on doing that with River Phoenix taking over from Harrison, but for obvious reasons, that move didn't pan out.
To make up for the long delay in Indy films, what would've been cool, is if they filmed 2 (or even 3) Indy films back to back, like they did with the Pirates
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And I also think they felt pretty satisfied with the third film and had other stories they wanted to tell. Do we want them constantly going back to the well? I don't. I want to see Spielberg tackling the stories he has, and say what you will about Lucas, as a producer, he's probably the most successful of all time.
Aside from the practical aspects of getting this film in the can while Ford's still believable and interested, I am happy to see them pushing this one through. It looks like it's going to be made efficiently and quickly so they can get on to other things.
It would be hilarious if the film was done like those terrible TV reunions. They can have Ford and Connery and the new kid sitting around a table at a library, and Indy can set up the flashbacks from the first three films, and the whole film is nothing but a highlight reel. That'll teach the sequel-hungry fans. -
Oh wait, that's already a French word.
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Don't be hating, I'm just sticking it to the man...in a non gay way. Ya know.
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KILL IT quickly, thus giving Indy a more focused sense of purpose. He was focused on saving his father in the last one, thus he should focus on avenging/solving the death of his offspring. Of course, we won't get that. We'll get a family-friendly film with a patented Spielberg ending that'll wrap everything up nice & tidy and those not old enough to know better will leave the theater feeling good about themselves. A shame, really.
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Regardless of how much you don't like him, the kid can act.
Jesus, this reminds me of the talkbacks when folks heard Tobey Macguire was playing Spiderman.
And The Last Crusade was a good Indy film. Temple of Doom was the bad/campy one.
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When The Man is right, we shouldn't stick it to him. That's all I'm saying, yo. (Dude, I've always wanted to end a sentence with "yo" yo)
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IT BETTER FRIGGIN' BE MARION RAVENWOOD AND NOT WILLIE FRIGGIN' SCOTT!!!! Of course, perhaps the script calls for the miraculous survival of DR. ELSA SCHNEIDER who was preggers. Then we would be treated to the mystery of who is SHIA's father? HENRY JONES SENIOR OR HENRY JONES JUNIOR???
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Except for some of "Temple of Doom" I'd have to say we're talking some pretty upbeat, positive, family-friendly movies. Well, except for those melting heads, yo.
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Dr. Jones Sr knocks up some woman and has a kid, so the "son" in the film is really Indy's brother. And his name is...Lucas. Yo.
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Goddammit, this movie is going to be a fucking disaster. Why must Speilberg and Lucas keep raping my childhood? WHY????
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lol of course I saw the originals, in the theater, no less. But I like your idea of Indy having a brother (instead of a son), that would be awesome. Perhaps Indy's brother once dealt with Belloq and was competing against him? Ooooooh.
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Why? If Indy's age is addressed and he can't somersault anymore.
Just concentrate on the damn writting then!!! I don't care if Indy has a walking stick and Jones Snr is in a wheel chair! Jeez!!!
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This film will crap on the Indiana Jones trilogy just like the prequels crapped on the Original Trilogy.
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You know, I usually don't resort to gross butchering of the venerable English language, but goddamn if she wasn't teh hawt.
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You WILL be watching this movie. In fact Lu$a$ ALREADY has your $20 in his possession...
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You WILL be watching this movie. In fact Luca$ ALREADY has your $20 in his possession...
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What a shame this is. I wonder how he feels being the new Jar Jar. His character should have an equally stupid name like Whip Whip Jones or...UMmmm...Boy Boy Jones.
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I liked the guy from the moment I saw him auditioning for the movie in the second season of Project Greenlight. He seemed like such a centered and unaffected young actor. No ego, charming and serious about his craft. He's still developing as an actor but I could see him becoming a force in Hollywood one day.
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Natalie Portman Natalie Portman Natalie Portman....Indy's daughter and her BF is...Shia LaBouf you guys are right...this stuff does write itself!
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CAPTAIN AMERICA?!?!?!?
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Would all the people who know 1% of what Spielberg knows about film making raise your hands. Exactly, I can reluctantly accept the whiny fanboys who rip what an diretor has already done but it's SOOOOOOOOOOO fuckin annoying to hear you guys gripe about shit you haven't even seen yet. So you don't like the guy. Okay. Save your bitching for after the movie if at that point you think he sucks. Years ago, I heard people bitching on here about The Matrix and how it was just going to be another Johnny Neumonic. The point is, save the bitching till you've actually seen the performance you are whining about.
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There will be NEVER be a movie that will EVER be made that will give you the same sensation you had when you were a kid watching Star Wars or Indiana Jones or whatever other fanboy movie you happen to cream your pants over. Eating Nerds candy is not going to bring back the innocent love you felt for that one special girl at school who shared her Nerds candy with you. Listening to Bon Jovi classics is not going to make you cool again. OK. Let it go. Now is now. Then is then. LET...IT...GO. I'm out.
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as if it's not a hundred fuckin times better than any of the prequels or Minority Report, or AI, or WotW, or Munich... well, I could go on and on...
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Everything is wrong with Shia Labeouf!
Watch his movies, he's always the token "funny kid" that ruins the damn movie. The only time I enjoyed watching him on film was when he got smashed and killed in constatine. That was fun. -
this movies success or failure will have nothing to do with la boof - that said - why didnt they cast an unknown - lucas saw fit to do so for lukes dad - why not cast an unknown for indys kid - or sidekick whatever
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Mori, the incredible hulk has to be your favorite comic book...
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With respects to the focus of this talkback, I have no beef with this young actor and have enjoyed him in previous works. But I'll say this: A) he's terribly miscast as Indy's son, B) I'm not feeling a son-storyline in Indy IV to begin with. Maybe a daughter, but really why distract from Indy? I want a no holds barred, hardcore Indiana Jones flick. Let's take it back to Raiders. On the real, I'm starting to worry about this movie. I'm seeing it going down the road of the Prequels. We can't have that! What I'd love to see is Indy IV mirror Rocky Balboa in really taking it back to the essence and signing the series off on a high note. That would be dope!
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1. Indy's story was wrapped up nicely with Last Crusade. There were no loose threads, except for whatever happened to Marion, so there's no reason to revisit the characters except to make money.
2. Lucas. American Graffiti was great. Star Wars was great. Empire was great. Tucker was awfully damn good. But he's also to blame for Jedi, the prequels, Howard the Duck, the Ewok TV movies, Radioland Murders, Young Indy and Temple of Doom. He's got a lot more misses than he has hits.
3. Harrison Ford. Admit it. You liked him better before he got an earring.
4. Spielberg is awfully damed good but isn't perfect. 1941, ET (yes, I said ET), Hook, The Lost World, AI and The Terminal were awful and War of the Worlds, Always, Temple of Doom, Empire of the Sun and The Color Purple were pretty weak. Have you tried to sit through ET or The Color Purple lately? Can't be done. -
funny, i found myself watching ET the other day and i totally fell more in love with it, so yes, i sat through it and enjoyed it a lot.. i just wish i had seen it with my dad who recently passed away, since that was one of the first movies he wartched with me when i was a child
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Any weeeeeee bit of news on Indiana Jones, Lucas, and Spielberg makes this site and the people go crazy! Can't we all just get along? :)
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Osmosis Jones, I believe the corner animation is an homage to The Old Man of the Mountain, a Betty Boop cartoon, which may be downloaded at
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AND DAMN THOSE FRIGGIN POWERBOOKS!!!!
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Mar 09, 2007 12:43:01 AM CST
IF SHIA REALLY WANTED TO PROVE THAT HE IS A REAL TALNET
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HE WOULD AVOID THIS TYPE OF ROLE CAUSE HE ALREADY PLAYED THE ACTION SIDEKICK TYPE 3 TIMES, I ROBOT, CONSTANTINE AND TRANSFORMERS -
Mar 09, 2007 12:44:53 AM CST
i bet if george lucas made a sequel to howard the duck
by larrythecableguy
it would be the grandest film of all. because of the opposite effect.
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that dude just sucks
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Mar 09, 2007 12:50:22 AM CST
And to that stupid blockhead who said that Spielberg
by motoko kusanagi
"has never made a bad movie" -- yes I mean YOU "Drworm2002" -- I say this: A.I.AlwaysMinority ReportWell, maybe the last one isn't completely utter crap, but it's still...well...crap.
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They just don't work because no one believes for one second that the hero's gonna let his son or daughter die. And if they're the "young sidekick," kids generally don't like them--they're put there as an audience substitute, but kids don't want to be a KID in an action movie, they wanna be the HERO, and adult.
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1941 (Spielberg can't do comedy--he can do GREAT comedy MOMENTS in drama's, like the rearview mirror shot in JP)...Twilight Zone the Movie segment (I mean, come on, you can't defend that gooey sick)...
The Color Purple (yes, BAD--all the pretty art direction can't change the basic misconception of this thing)...Always...Hook...The Lost World...AI (we start with the tedious robot that wants to be a real boy, and end with, uh, a mom who can be cloned BUT ONLY FOR ONE DAY! ((why?)) and then, well, you can see how this all adds up, and, well, Kubrick started the ball rolling, so...) All bad. You can love a director and admit he's made bad movies. I can't think of a director who's made more than a handful of movies who hasn't made a bad movie--it's how one grows, by trying and failing. -
so this is refreshing...
Indie IV will center on President Eisenhowers visit to edwards air force base meet with extraterrestrial aliens who arrived in a ufo. that's the scenes that will take place in america,california, plus some action in washington dc. the rest will take place in egypt and some parts in france. the adventure will take him underneath the sphinx and pyramid giza and he will be chased by members of a certain secret society and their evil henchman. shia will play a young, anal retentive, beurocrat from washington dc who gets mixed up with indie on an adventure as he's investigating him for some unknown reason. indie does meet up again with marion and it turns out he's her son from another guy, cause indie didn't stick around long enough. and sean is only in it at the end during the wedding scene. the handling of the aliens and ufos is supposed to be handled beleivable and mysterious so it doesn't seem too far-fetched. i got this from a guy who knows some guy who heard a review of a leaked review of the screenplay. time will tell. -
I've cleaned this talkback up now. If your post was removed, it was because it was (A) grotesquely racist (B) a conversation about that racism, which only seemed to perpetuate more of it or (C) someone screaming at the racists, which in turn only made the racists post more of their shit.
If your post is gone, do not repost it. I did not ban anyone, but starting right here, anyone who continues this vile back-and-forth is gone. I find myself apologizing for the worst instincts of our worst talkbackers too often, and this thread in particular has depressed me so far.
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Was a good crowd for a movie that just got a midnight showing announcement within the last 24 hours. Here is the quick and dirty on it.
Visually stunning.
Story you have heard before from many different films. Lots of violence. Soundtrack not that great. Will appeal to diehards of Frank Miller, like myself. It will the #1 movie this weekend but won't be a long lasting film like some of you may feel before seeing it. Once you see it for yourself you will understand what I mean. This is an art piece and will stand out as unique film much like Sky Captain did. Will look great on an HDTV with HD-DVD when released. Should be a real show stopper on that. But not to detract. It is what it is. If you liked the trailer you know what to expect. But as I said it's not going to set the box office on fire like some may think due to it's limited appeal to the average moron who went to see Ghost Rider. They will get bored by the 2nd act and not get it for what it is supposed to be. It's a great piece of art. Highly recommend for those who truly appreciate the medium of film itself. -
so most of my comments about how some people have posted some horrible things about a certain religion has been deleted, im cool with that.. but all i want to say again is, quit bitching about the damn movie, specially if you have not seen it, so you are not happy that indy has a kid, who by the way is 21 and no longer a child, and that speilberg and lucas sucks and are money hungry whores, and that your childhood is being rape once again, well, if thats how you feel, then quit being a fraking victim and dont show up to the cimemas to watch this movie... i know i am gonna have my issues with transformers big time, and guess what, i wont see it ever, its a simple as that..
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INDY 4 is officially DEAD TO ME! fuck this shit and fuck SS and GL! yeah give indy some annoyng fucking son and bog this bitch down...smooth move fuckfaces. it kills me to say this shit cuz i fucking love the IJ trilogy...i fucking love it...but this shit is too much, even for me. its not needed to give him a underdeveloped son who cant keep up. but i guess i shouldnt have expected any less from george lucas "king of the cliche'" fuck it man, fuck everything.
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Be careful. Moriarty's not gonna like that comment.
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DISCOVER LOST TOMB OF JOE DIMAGGIO AND SILVER SURFER WILL UNLEASH HIS COSMPIC POWERS TO RELEASH THE YANKEE CLIPPER FROM TOMB,, AND A BIG ROCK WILL FALL DOWN AND CRRUSH SPIDER-GUY. FF42 AND THE DUCK WILL RULE YOU ALL!!!!11!
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DHAMAKA2007(?) hath returned. Bronx Cheer i just gotta thank you for the laughs you have generated within this husk of a man the last coupla nights.
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How do we know he wasn't secretly adopted by ol' Marcus Brody, Indy's secret gay lover? I mean those guys did go back a long ways with each other...and now that Marcus is dead, Shia is seeking out his dad's lover. I love Venice!
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Indy has settled into his cushy professorship and has a wife and son. is son thinks he's an old fuddy duddy (while the son is the 50s equivalent of an exreme sports dude). the mom gets it in the first 1/2 hour from some Commies and the son goes to fight the Pinkos then Indy follows the dumb kid showinging him a glimpse of what a great adventurer he once was. Cameo by Connery to illustrate what a good father Indy turned out to be. roll credits. oh yeah, maybe they're looking for the lost necklace of Abzuhariah...or something.
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full of racist language? Did you not get I was being ironic, to make fun of those who said Shia got the role because he's jewish? Did you erase those other posts too? Standards and practices here are ridiculous. Just so we're clear- making gross generlizations about conservatives, movie producers and jews is okay on AICN, as is talking about molesting Hermione- but if you sarcastically state that all Puerto Ricans steal hubcaps- even if you make it clear you don't mean it- you're gone fella!
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War of the Worlds, A.I., The Lost World, Hook, 1941.
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Mori made it clear that if you're a baiter, you got erased too. exacerbation helps the terrorists win.
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I just caught up to your post, at least you were fair in censoring ALL the objectional posts, not just mine. But tell me, who watches the watchmen?
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hadn't read Mori's post yet, go back to your job as hall-moniter and get off my ass
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I hadn't read Mori's post yet, go back to your job as hall-moniter and get off my ass
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just assumed you had read Mori's big black post before complaining. didn't mean to be salt in the wound. have a super day.
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I'll just go shoot myself in the foot.
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you know hes gotta eat!
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Shia LaDouche as Indy Jr. I hear Angela Lansbury is up for Ford's love interest.
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Darkhorizons is also posting that Shia has no interest in this. Now it's possible that he's already signed some non-disclosure agreement, but the way he described his reasons for NOT being interested in the role were pretty strong and sure wouldn't jibe if he DID end up being in the movie.
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I'd check out the Chud.com story
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hahahaha!
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of the indie movie. possibly. smart man. if this is true i may begin to respect him.
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He's not doing the movie already so let's give it a rest. The problem wasn't with him in the first place, it was witht eh fact that this characer existed and that Lucas and Spielberg seem to have a penchant for pandering to an audience, which would lead one to believe the nature of the character is unsavory for an indy film. But he's not doing it so I say hats off to him, he's got a career ahead of him if he keeps doing films like A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints. I also heard form a test screening that believe it or not Disturbia is excellent. Anyway, we are all winner here so let's move along.
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and uh as a bonus
"I'll Shia you in hell" heh heh thought that up on my own -
Really that's the only choice to make everyone happy, no, thrilled!
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He's certainly doing it. Wait and see.
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Damn you harbinger of pain! Man I REALLY hope you're wrong here. Also that mean Labouf blatantly lied.
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Dark Horizons quotes Shia as saying it's all a huge internet rumor and that he's done with the "sidekick" roles. Also, he claims Transformers got an "R" rating, but that Spielberg called the MPAA and got it appealed to a "PG-13". True or false? Believe it or not?
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... oh dear...
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This was the age before paternity suits or even the ability to track people down so well. After she was widowed, my grandmother shacked up with a truck-driving cowboy dude who had fathered nobody even knew how many batches of kids, like five at a time, all over Hell and gone. Dozens. And his first wife being a Catholic had never even given him a divorce, and if these kids got an acknowledgment from him that he was their real Dad, they were happy with that. That's how Indy would be. Pull out? Would Chuck Norris pull out (well maybe if he was starring in a suppressed gay porno he might, but you get my drift)?
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through which the spirit and wisdom of DHAMAKA2007 flows. I am but the messenger. He is the Prophet. (Man, I hope I spelled his name right...if I didn't he will RAIN FURIOUSLY LIGHTING BOLTS OF LASER SICKNESS INTO MY ETERNAL WISH FOR DEATH, ALL WITH THE GREAT SWIFTNESS OF THE COSMPIC POWERS.
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Feck sake, he's probably got a wrinkly ass and grunts when he moves. This is not something I need to have play out in my imagination.
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I'm surprised when you are channeling DHAMAKA2007 you even have time to think about anything else...especially Ford wrinkly ass.
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Damn, I just made myself uncomfortable being near myself. I have to go wash.
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http://www.mania.com/53895.html
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Number 2 was not. Why? Simply because of the kid and screaming woman now known as Mrs. Spielberg. You would think that George and Steven would have figured that out. Now, I have no problem with someone playing Dr. Jone's son. I hope it is a small role ala Mr. Brody though. Harrison Ford deserves to be in the spotlight. Last Indiana Jones movie. Great cast and script. No one should put Dr. Jones in the corner. Let the kid be a part of the supporting group and not overshadow the main man himself. It can be done.
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"There will be NEVER be a movie that will EVER be made that will give you the same sensation you had when you were a kid"The Iron Giant, The Matrix, The Incredibles, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. My experience. YMMV."No ego, charming and serious about his craft"lol ...Perhaps you're right about the latter, but did you read Quint's interview on the TF set? The kid's ego leaves no room for charm.
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Not bad movies. Stevens worst movies are better then most others best movies.
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movies. Why the hate?
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again!
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oh well...
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