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Fox lands M Night's THE HAPPENING - it's a helluva script!

Hey folks, Harry here... Well Tom Rothman did the right thing here - There's a pretty strong anti-M Night movement out there in the world right now. Personally - I'm 100% on the other side of the tracks. I love the work that M Night has done - and I completely understand why the films that so many seem to vocally dislike - play that way towards them - I just don't share that opinion. With THE HAPPENING, I predict if Fox stays out of M Night's way, that this will be seen as M Night's 'comeback'. Right now, I'm 40 pages into reading the 106 page draft of M Night's THE HAPPENING, which on this draft was known as THE GREEN EFFECT. THE HAPPENING is a much stronger title in my opinion... For one, THE HAPPENING is a phrase that feels and oozes 1960s. And what M Night has constructed thus far in this script is a very 1960's End of the World scenario. If you've ever seen NO BLADE OF GRASS - combine that to the premise of something like Stephen King's THE CELL - and you're heading in the direction that this movie goes in. The script begins with some haunting violent imagery. The sort of imagery that instantly scares the shit out of you. This isn't a long slow build up to something, right at the beginning, the shit has hit the fan. It's downright scary nightmare scenarios. Everything the media makes us afraid of - it's happening all around us. I won't spoil what's causing things to happen, but I will say that by page 40 - the thing we're led to believe is happening... is a SCARY FUCKING THING. It isn't often that I can pat Rothman on the back, but good job picking this script up. It's going to be an amazing film. ------ Ok - just finished the script. This has the potential to be the best film M Night has made. It depends on the casting, but he's always done well with his casting. As with all of Shyamalan's films - at the heart of the script is spiritual healing and hope. However, unlike everything he's done - there's a mean streak. I see why so many studios were scared by the film, as there is definitely a fatalistic vibe pulsing through this film. However, I've always loved stories about the end of civilization as we know it. They always make for interesting conversations after you see the film. The "what would you do, if you were among the last survivors of a global pandemic? This is an awesome "fear" story. We'll follow this production as closely as we can.

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  • March 7, 2007, 12:58 a.m. CST


    by werideatdusk

    could it be?

  • March 7, 2007, 12:58 a.m. CST

    ps i hate "first" people

    by werideatdusk

    but now I understand the perverse thrill you get from being the first! also, "Unbreakable" was awesome.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:05 a.m. CST

    M Night’s a hack and a pompous asshole!

    by Mr. Moe

    I wish he’d just stop making movies and disappear altogether.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:09 a.m. CST

    ?uv ajeD

    by David Lazarus Long

    In reverse? You people need to coordinate better.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:07 a.m. CST

    He may be a pompous asshole

    by The Pusher

    But his films are far more interesting than the garbage everyone else is trying to shove down our throats. I'll take a dozen lame Shyamalan films over one more shitty horror remake any day of the week. I'm now officially looking forward to this one.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:08 a.m. CST


    by The Pusher

    Unbreakable was very awesome.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Unbreakable = 2nd best superhero movie ever

    by Beastmanseventy

    After The Incredibles.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Lady int eh Water was painful, but in this element...

    by IndustryKiller!

    Shyamalan could stage a return to form. I like a good ole fashion end of the world flick and I still believe there is some directing talent he has yet to tap. I just fear for his writing and Harry's opnion of it means nothing to me, the guy has some of the worst taste on planet Earth. Anyone who liked Lady in the Water is just plain wrong.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:26 a.m. CST

    when you isolate yourself, and have no accountability

    by BadMrWonka

    as a filmmaker, and are allowed to do whatever you want, you better be as good as kubrick, or spielberg or welles...if you're a one trick pony with a brain 1/10 the size of your ego, well, let's just say your name better be interesting to spell and pronounce...<p>Roger Ebert's hilarious review of The Village...anyone that has seen that pile of horse dung TRULY has to read this review: <p>

  • March 7, 2007, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Why praise it so much when you are up to page 40?

    by Rupee88

    How can you say "It's going to be an amazing film" when you haven't even finished the script? Am I missingin something here?

  • March 7, 2007, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Sequel: "What's The Happening Now?"

    by topaz4206

    I heard Fred ReRun Barry's already signed.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST

    M Night has a lot to prove

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    And why does it matter if you are 'first' anyway?

  • March 7, 2007, 1:40 a.m. CST

    All you sheep dissing Lady In The Water

    by polyh3dron

    are crazy.. If you can watch it without considering all the stigma around it and the fact that it's a M Night film, it's pretty damn good.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST

    don't let him write

    by arrangedletters

    Let him come up with an idea but for the love of god don't let him write. He is an amazing director who has been held back by horrid writing.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Ebert's whole review of the village...funny and apropos

    by BadMrWonka

    [this sums up how I feel about Shamalyan's overwrought plotting and the level of condescention he has for his audiences, that he thinks idiotic tricks can take the place of good writing and directing. the review is also hilarious, especially the end...] <p>"The Village" is a colossal miscalculation, a movie based on a premise that cannot support it, a premise so transparent it would be laughable were the movie not so deadly solemn. It's a flimsy excuse for a plot, with characters who move below the one-dimensional and enter Flatland. M. Night Shyamalan, the writer-director, has been successful in evoking horror from minimalist stories, as in "Signs," which if you think about it rationally is absurd -- but you get too involved to think rationally. He is a director of considerable skill who evokes stories out of moods, but this time, alas, he took the day off. Critics were enjoined after the screening to avoid revealing the plot secrets. That is not because we would spoil the movie for you. It's because if you knew them, you wouldn't want to go. The whole enterprise is a shaggy dog story, and in a way, it is all secrets. I can hardly discuss it at all without being maddingly vague. <p>Let us say that it takes place in an unspecified time and place, surrounded by a forest the characters never enter. The clothing of the characters and the absence of cars and telephones and suchlike suggest either the 1890s, or an Amish community. Everyone speaks as if they had studied "Friendly Persuasion." The chief civic virtues are probity and circumspection. Here is a village that desperately needs an East Village. <p> The story opens with a funeral attended by all the villagers, followed by a big outdoor meal at long tables groaning with corn on the cob and all the other fixin's. Everyone in the village does everything together, apparently, although it is never very clear what most of their jobs are. Some farming and baking goes on. <p> The movie is so somber, it's afraid to raise its voice in its own presence. That makes it dreary even during scenes of shameless melodrama. We meet the patriarch Edward Walker (William Hurt), who is so judicious in all things he sounds like a minister addressing the Rotary Club. His daughter Ivy (Bryce Dallas Howard), is blind but spunky. The stalwart young man, Lucius Hunt (Joaquin Phoenix), petitions the elders to let him take a look into the forest. His widowed mother Alice (Sigourney Weaver), has feelings for Edward Walker. The village idiot (Adrien Brody), gambols about, and gamboling is not a word that I use lightly. There is a good and true man (Brendan Gleeson). And a bridegroom who is afraid his shirt will get wrinkled. <p> Surrounding the village is the forest. In the forest live vile, hostile creatures who dress in red and have claws of twigs. They are known as Those We Do Not Speak Of (except when we want to end a designation with a preposition). We see Those We Do Not Speak, etc., only in brief glimpses, like the water-fixated aliens in "Signs." They look better than the "Signs" aliens, who looked like large extras in long underwear, while Those We Do Not, etc., look like their costumes were designed at summer camp. <p> Watchtowers guard the periphery of the village, and flares burn through the night. But not to fear: Those We Do, etc., have arrived at a truce. They stay in the forest and the villagers stay in the village. Lucius wants to go into the forest and petitions the elders, who frown at this desire. Ivy would like to marry Lucius, and tells him so, but he is so reflective and funereal, it will take him another movie to get worked up enough to deal with her. Still, they love each other. The village idiot also has a thing for Ivy, and sometimes they gambol together. <p> Something terrible happens to somebody. I dare not reveal what, and to which, and by whom. Edward Walker decides reluctantly to send someone to "the towns" to bring back medicine for whoever was injured. And off goes his daughter Ivy, a blind girl walking through the forest inhabited by Those Who, etc. She wears her yellow riding hood, and it takes us a superhuman effort to keep from thinking about Grandmother's House. <p> Solemn violin dirges permeate the sound track. It is autumn, overcast and chilly. Girls find a red flower and bury it. Everyone speaks in the passive voice. The vitality has been drained from the characters; these are the Stepford Pilgrims. The elders have meetings from which the young are excluded. Someone finds something under the floorboards. Wouldn't you just know it would be there, exactly where it was needed, in order for someone to do something he couldn't do without it. <p> Eventually the secret of Those, etc., is revealed. To call it an anticlimax would be an insult not only to climaxes but to prefixes. It's a crummy secret, about one step up the ladder of narrative originality from It Was All a Dream. It's so witless, in fact, that when we do discover the secret, we want to rewind the film so we don't know the secret anymore. <p> And then keep on rewinding, and rewinding, until we're back at the beginning, and can get up from our seats and walk backward out of the theater and go down the up escalator and watch the money spring from the cash register into our pockets.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:44 a.m. CST

    So is this going to happen after "M"Avatar?

    by Boondock Devil

    I'm pulling for the guy to make some decent movies again. Hopefully after "Lady in the Water" he might decide to quit writing lines for his favorite actor; himself.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Mr. Moe

    by jackson healy

    So M. Night's a hack and a pompous asshole? What do you base your opinion on? Have you actually met him? I have. And I can honestly say that he's one of the most down to earth Hollywood superstars around. And that's saying a lot if you know anything about La La land. When Night's script's are great, they burn like phosperous in your hands. Which is why after only 40 pages you can tell when you've got a winner. More specs in this town sell after the first 25 pages than you'd care to think about.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Unbreakable is one of my fave films of all time

    by Amy Chasing

    if that's any indication of my taste direction. A man who discovers he has super powers, but all done low-key, gritty reality.. it. was. just. cool. <P> but I hated Signs - the complete opposite of Unbreakable IMHO. Everything was so obvious (probably meant to be, sure, but I think Tim Burton did better with Mars Attacks), and the ending with "swing away" or whatever the fuck that was with the baseball bat and the glasses of water everywhere - quality holistic storytelling, I think not. <P> Haven't seen Lady In The Water yet, but I enjoyed The Village. It was both sweet and cool - not an easy mix to pull off, and many think it didn't. Guess I was having a good day when I saw it or something.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:58 a.m. CST

    "down to earth hollywood superstar"

    by BadMrWonka

    John candy was one of those...M Night is just a guy that thinks he's mch greater than the sum of his parts...<p>come on jackson healy...the pretentious "I'm in the industry" type banter, the lexicon, the defense of arguably the most overrated director/writer out there...smells like a failed screenwriter to me...

  • March 7, 2007, 2 a.m. CST

    I thought he vowed to never work with Fox again.

    by MaxTheSilent

    After they canned LABOR OF LOVE. Any port in a storm, I guess.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Jackson Healy

    by Mr. Moe

    He is a hack because he can’t direct actors. Sure he can create atmosphere but his characters all have the same personality, emotionless and zombie-like. He is a pompous asshole because of the way he belittles the mainstream audience, like he is some kind of important ‘artist’ who is above the lower class citizens. Comments he made about why he wrote Signs made me ill. He talks shit about the very people that made him the “IT” director for the little time he had. He is an egomaniac who even treats his own friends like shit.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Just too bad there won't be an Unbreakable sequel

    by Boondock Devil

    Didn't M Night mention that years ago he wouldn't mind making a sequel or two for Unbreakable? Maybe it'd be nice if someday at the very least he could maybe just do a comic mini-series for IDW or something because I'd love to see what he'd have in mind for it.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing

    by Boondock Devil

    Trust me when I say that Lady in the Water is the exact opposite of Unbreakable. Signs is a masterpiece compared to M Night's last movie. Also agree with you on The Village. It's not his best movie but it's not horrible either.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:11 a.m. CST

    What a twist!

    by Celtican

    Shouldn't it be Stephen King's 'Cell'? Sorry to be so pedantic on a Wednesday morning...

  • March 7, 2007, 2:16 a.m. CST

    as for the Sixth Sense, honestly..

    by Amy Chasing

    who picked the ending? I sure didn't. Almost up there with Darth Vader's "no, I am your father".

  • March 7, 2007, 2:16 a.m. CST

    I read a 106 page draft of The Green Effect...

    by ODM

    ...and thought it was a fan script, it was that bad. True, there are some cool images of people dying throughout act one, but it goes downhill fast once the shit hits the fan. If you wanna see a film of people running through fields away from a breeze, get your tickets now. I'm a MASSIVE knight fan, don't get me wrong, but this script -- the draft I read -- sucked.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:25 a.m. CST

    ODM - we read the same draft


    The difference was - I can feel the James Newton Howard score, the gorgeous cinematography - and the nuanced performances that M Night will get out of his actors for this script. <BR><BR>You seemed to read this script without THINKING about the 'reality' it would be to be in this situation. The fear. It's the end of the world - and there isn't really anything you can do about it. Think about how M Night uses his camera to create ATMOSPHERE... To feel tension at seemingly passive scenery is the entire point. It's about fearing what you can't see. There's something in the air, something that turns on seemingly arbitrarily. This is about the world of man ending. About the hedges trimming the folks with the hedgecutters. And at the end of the story is that it? It's a fantastic story. And that it is being made as a hard R - is exactly the right way to go.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Is this part of some elaborate hoax?

    by Det. John Kimble

    They tried to burn me once. FU in the goat ass M. Night. What fantastical twist could this stinker contain? I can hardly wait to completely ignore it.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:29 a.m. CST

    R-Rated M Night movie? Sign me up!

    by Boondock Devil

    That is if they do go that way. I'll admit I'm getting a little amped up about this project even more now. And I figured out the twist to 6th Sense only because everybody kept talking about the "huge twist" and was 90 percent sure that Bruno was a ghost about half-way through the movie.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:30 a.m. CST

    This isn't a twist film



  • March 7, 2007, 2:39 a.m. CST

    nuanced performances = emotionless zombies

    by Mr. Moe

    I guess I just like actor performances to be realistic.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:45 a.m. CST

    There just wasn't enough story for me...

    by ODM

    ... I agree that a haunting JNH score with John Toll levels of eye protein will help no end, but it's definitely a rough diamond in need of a good polish. There are several truly great scenes -- talking plants, the dead builders -- but it all felt a bit thin, especially towards the end.... Meh, I was disappointed.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Shyamalan is not a hack, just not that talented

    by Rupee88

    A hack doesn't even care and just collects a paycheck. Night tries his best, but it just ain't so good.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:01 a.m. CST

    this script

    by MisterCynic

    is bad. not village or lady in the water bad, but still bad. i would like nothing more than to see an m. night comeback, because he's a fantastic, stylish director. this is not the movie that will do it.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:06 a.m. CST


    by MisterCynic

    it's not even close to 'walking and running zombies' in terms of ridiculousness. it's much, much worse.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Ok Harry, Weiner just overruled you

    by IndustryKiller!

    Weiners assessment that the film lacks internal logic just annihilated any hope that I earlier had. His explaination of the flawed script seems to completely in line with the rabbit hole Shyamalan is going down that only a fool would it a pass without here evidence to the contrary. Breaking ones own logic to find cheap outs is a HUGE no no in storytelling. It's why the ending to the Pretige didnt work (I don't want this turned into a talkback about the Pretige. Don't bother explaining why you bought it, I've heard it all already. If you liked it, more power) And Shyamalan himself did it every five god damn minutes in Lady in the Water. There wasn't a single problem that arised that wasn't conveniently fixed by some bullshit previously unheard of part of the legend and combined with the retardedly silly one dimensional characters the film became an absolute farce. Not a singe redeeming quality. And that's not just me being a film nazi, that's prevailing opinion throughout the geek world. Harry your problem is that your belief in a film's concept (here the end of the world, in Lady a childs storytelling perspective) seems to carry you through any of its flaws. But the simple conceit of a film alone for most people is not enough to excuse mediocrity, nor should it be. I think it's time you stepped away from genre films, you've completely lost your way when it comes to your assessment of them.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:16 a.m. CST

    The Village was great

    by kwisatzhaderach

    So totally different from all the other movies that came out that summer. i thoroughly enjoed it, even if I did see the ending coming after 30 minutes.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Great news about the R rating!

    by nopix

    When I read the script review over at latino review it seemed like it would depend on some key disturbing imagery.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Lady was a self indulgent cheesey wank

    by quantize

    ..and shameless at that... the next film wont be any different..

  • March 7, 2007, 3:34 a.m. CST

    hoo boy

    by chappai

    I can't wait to see which juicy part M. Night has written for himself. Each movie his screen time has become longer and longer. And I don't think he's that great an actor. I figure in about three more films, he'll be writer, director AND star and at that point I'll just stop watching.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Hah! Hah! hah! Hah!! Hah!!!

    by jackson healy

    You guys make me laugh, you do.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:41 a.m. CST

    That Ebert review captures everything wrong..

    by quantize

    with the Village and Lady.. except Lady stinks almost have to wait till the end of the Village to realise how utterly retarded the whole thing is. His films have progressively degenerated into farcical turds that do not inspire wonder, or fear..just loathing for is utterly undeserved standing.

  • March 7, 2007, 4:08 a.m. CST

    smelling of failed screenwriters?

    by SAVOIR_faire

    Oh, and those remarks *don't* smell of failed writer? Let's think about that... As if MNS is sitting at home wondering what the talkbackers are sayin' right now...

  • March 7, 2007, 4:32 a.m. CST

    the dude above (kwiksukdiscock or some shit) that said

    by BadMrWonka

    the village was great, even if he did see the ending coming after 30 minutes. that LITERALLY made me spit up green tea out of my nose. that has to be the dumbest thing I've seen in the talkbacks in a while, and that's saying a LOT. <p>a movie that has ABSOLUTELY no point except for a clumsy little deceit of a plot twist, this mofo figures it out 1/3 of the way through, and still enjoys it?!<p>come to think of it, there was a down syndrome 10 year old in the theater when I saw it...maybe that was him.<p>hey bud, do you like Lost?

  • March 7, 2007, 4:35 a.m. CST

    I really, really, really...

    by Brendon

    ...want a copy of this script. Can ANYBODY help me?

  • March 7, 2007, 5:02 a.m. CST

    It is his utter refusal to listen to anyone

    by emeraldboy

    that got him into trouble regarding Lady in the water. Lady exploded like a detonated can of mulch in WB face. When someone says "I dont get it". youre reaction would be to calmly say well please tell me what you dont get and i will explain. But night didnt he exploded and the movie bombed. In hollywood they like control but you also have to be a team player. Night seems like someone who will go this is my vision and if you dont like it then get lost and dont I care whether the audience gets it cause their dumb as oxes.

  • March 7, 2007, 5:02 a.m. CST

    This is the one where The Trees Strike Back,

    by Captain Happy

    Lame....*****SPOILER ALERT****Plants exude a gas that make man kill himself - I think I heard that story once proposed in a small tee-pee at my community garden. Seriously, Shama, lay off the green stuff for awhile. The beauty of a good allegorical sci-fi'er is when it bothers to extrapolate it's own future position based on society's current conditions, technological, moral, more (sexual, political issues are all good topics). This is just too esoteric for an end of the world movie. Another vanity project. I wouldn't go near this one with a ten foot mermaid. The Dice man has come back. Ohh! Anybody ever see Corman's Gas-s-s-s-s-s (there's a lot of s's in there, they just keep going), maybe Shama should bring back Ben Vereen! It's like Fellini & Shpiels-berg (yes I put the "s" & the "h" in there, Christy Canyon once called him that in a porno & it stuck with me forever) didi a writing workshop with Tim Leary. Plant gases killing people by making them kill themselves; not the sharpest of instruments was chosen to make this point, he got out the blunt ones - & I may have to get a blunt one out if I'm gonna walk on the other side of the hall of this turkey.

  • March 7, 2007, 5:12 a.m. CST

    lady in the water

    by El Borak

    ruled btw.

  • March 7, 2007, 5:15 a.m. CST

    The original "The Happening"

    by OnomatoPoet

    My primary seven class (age 10-11, my American friends) performed a comedy/musical called "The Happening" in 1993. Our teachers wrote it themselves, basically ripping off "Back to the Future" but replacing the car with a magic ring, and throwing in some songs by the likes of Phil Collins and Diana Ross (hence the title). Therefore, I can probably name sixty-one people my age who will see the title of this movie and remember standing on stage, wearing laughable '50s costumes, singing a Diana Ross song to our parents. Please, Mr Shyalaman, change it back to "The Green Effect"...

  • March 7, 2007, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Tagline: "Mother Nature What a bitch."

    by Boondock Devil

    "The Happening" is a better title than "The Green Effect". Whenever my friends get the green effect they just end up watching a lot of television while craving doritos.

  • March 7, 2007, 5:33 a.m. CST

    "The potential to be the best film Shyamalan has made"

    by DerLanghaarige

    That'S easy. He just has to top Unbreakable, which was great, but still flawed.

  • March 7, 2007, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Is he going to throw a fit when...

    by mrfan

    he doesn't get his way?

  • March 7, 2007, 5:58 a.m. CST


    by emeraldboy

    Night doesnt seem to tolerate dissent. Its almost as if he has a god complex. and i have even met someone like him and they are scary people. I had a teacher like him in college. I for one will never forget those Phrases"there's only one chief in the tee-pee and thats me or Shut ir right now or rip your arm off and use it as a wet sock, this teacher in college taught us business and one day he came to class and announced that hitler was a great guy. I am not making any of this up. I am glad that studios dont give Night more power than then the limited power he has.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:11 a.m. CST


    by emeraldboy

    He threatend to expel my friend from the college over the trivial charge of not handing in a college assingment. He kicked him out of the class, which was full from what my friend told me and my friend was ordered to then Dept heads office(he is now the pricipal). My fiend went to cork a week before his parents went down and shortly there after he broke dwown.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:20 a.m. CST

    "I love the work that M Night has done"

    by Trazadone

    Oh come on, really? Why do you feel the need to continuously defend this guy? He made exactly one good film and even that one is triesome at this point. He's pretentious and just plain awful, we're talking Uwe Boll quality here. Getting excited about a new Shyamalan film is akin to waking up on Christmas morning only to find that all your presents are socks.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Wasted Potential

    by Athanatos

    That sums up M Night for me. As to people who liked stupid would a being have to be to try to attack a planet composed mostly of a substance that can kill them? That's like a human trying to take over a planet filled with acid...gimme a break.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:24 a.m. CST

    There's a pretty strong anti-M Night movement out there

    by Trazadone

    Yeah, that's kind of what happens when you're a narcissistic asshole and you create terrible, expensive movies that fail at the box office.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Night Riders

    by ZooTrain

    It's amusing that M. Night is the new Hip to Hate guy when only six or seven years ago, most of you were lining up to circle jerk with him. He's probably the best new breed mainstream filmmaker working today (I'll still call Tarantino and Rodriguez indy...for the most part). And, to throw in, I hated The Village, but I thought Lady in the Water was watchable. I don't understand all the hate. There were dozens of worse movies released last year. So, starting with The Sixth Sense, M. Night is 4/5 with me (not that I would rush out and buy LitW).

  • March 7, 2007, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Anyone British Remember the cheesy

    by Lost Prophet

    BBC version of "day of the triffids"? <p>well, that's what this reminds me of- except more shit. I get all nostalgic about Triffids, as I saw it when I was a Kid, but made the huge mistake of making my American wife watch it when it was repeated recently. She was rude. It was like watching a group of chavs vandalise a children's playground. Very sad- and what was worse, she was right. <p> sorry about the digression, but this has to be the least original, most pathetic rip-off that I have heard of in a while. Night is a pompous hack- has the man had one original thought? ever?

  • March 7, 2007, 6:38 a.m. CST

    All right, I've only seen Signs once...

    by OnomatoPoet

    But the water thing seemed perfectly reasonable to me (ie. why they invaded a big blue planet in the first place). How do a bunch of fucking aliens know what water is, or that they're allergic? Even if they did know what water was, they'd know it wasn't blue, which may have led to some confusion in selecting their destination.<p>I might fly over the Pacific in my helicopter, see some nice little desert island covered with trees, and think "I'll have that, suckers!" but then when I land, it turns out the friendly-looking foliage is fatally irritant to my skin, and then Mel Gibson appears and smacks the shit out of me. That's not even what the movie's about. I liked it for a suspense thriller.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Read StrangeCo's post, not mine

    by OnomatoPoet

    It's better and it's shorter.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:46 a.m. CST

    I just got off the phone to M Night...

    by HarryBlackPotter

    He hates everyone right now 'cos no-one dug his last film. So he wrote a script in which everyone (except him in his neat 'last man standing' cameo)dies horribly. He's so paranoid that he built a 70ft parameter fence around his house to keep the critics out. He has built a secret tunnel underneath his house so he could sneak out at night for groseries and check how many people have rented out Lady in the Water at Blockbuster. I think it's time we all showed him some love the way Harry has.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Check out this link.......

    by Blueballs333

  • March 7, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST

    An Idiot..?

    by workshed

    Harry. It's depressing to think that you would give M.Night another break when there are thousands of filmmakers out there who would love to get a chance to have just 1% of the money he has been given to make his floaters so far - and they are great big steaming floaters. 'The Sixth Sense' - so that had a twist did it..? Funny, i saw that one coming after the first ten minutes (it took me five to work 'The Prestige' out btw). When will Hollywood come up with a little ingenuity instead iof sequels and retreads.? BTW i hope you are ready for the masterpiece that is Shane Meadows' 'This Is England'. If you don't push that one i will regard this site as defunct.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:58 a.m. CST


    by workshed

    Your shpeeling is atrosheeush. Parameter..? Groseries..? Blockbuster..?

  • March 7, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST

    M Night's stuff is always interesting and challenging

    by Doctor_Sin

    Even his crap is better than the cookie-cutter bullshit we get daily. Yay!

  • March 7, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST

    You're all sheep...

    by Fridge's really quite funny. Back when the Sixth Sense came out you all wanted his cock in your mouth. Now some critics like that hack, Ebert, bash him and you all jump on the train. Pathetic.

  • March 7, 2007, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Not that I had much faith in Harry's tastes anymore

    by Frijole

    to begin with. But I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be duped into trusting the opinion of a man who thinks Borat as a character would work better in a scripted MOVIE movie. That's just fucking crazy talk. (and I liked Lady in the Water).

  • March 7, 2007, 7:52 a.m. CST

    For what it's worth...

    by OnomatoPoet

    I like Shyalaman's movies. And I mean the five we've all seen. The apparent subject matter (ghosts, aliens, superheroes etc.) is not my kind of thing, but this talented fucker is obviously more interested in characters and suspense, and he does excellent work with both. I couldn't give a fuck if "The Village" and "Lady in the Water" don't hold up to nitpicking. I'm not the only person who's enjoyed films by Bunuel, Godard and Tarkovsky and some of them don't make any fucking sense either. Shyalaman might be egotistical, but if my name was all over five movies that collectively scored about two billion dollars, I'd probably allow myself the occasional public smirk. He's not my favourite director by a long way, but at least his films have a personality and they're a lot more interesting than most.

  • March 7, 2007, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Don't like Borat either

    by Lost Prophet

    I just don't find him tht funny. <p>Gerbils, YB? you sick puppy.

  • March 7, 2007, 8:05 a.m. CST

    The problem with Lady in the Water

    by Zino

    was that there was too much mythology to cram into one movie, and dumping the whole thing on us like that simply highlighted how ridiculous it all was. Most mythologies are silly when you look at them as a whole, but you can still get the viewer to buy into it if you take more of a drip-feed approach, and build in to it great characters that the viewers care about. This simply could not have been achieved in a single film, and would have been better suited to TV, with the story told over a season or two.

  • March 7, 2007, 8:16 a.m. CST

    dammit, you beat to the "..and it freaks me out!"

    by durhay


  • March 7, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    So M. Night's making his version of another genre...

    by Childe Roland

    ...of film? Because the world really needs another apocalyptic horror story? Ah, but his will have that thing none of us expect toward the end...unless we've watched half a Twilight Zone episode in our lives. Seriously, anyone calling this guy original has no concept of what that word means and really needs to get out more. And anyone calling him talented needs to qualify the ever-loving fuck out of that statement. He's made two decent films and three shitburgers with side orders of crack rock, which his die hards can't seem to shove up their noses fast enough. I would very much love to see him tackle someone else's script of an original idea and I'd like to see him hire an acting coach so he can begin to understand the range of human emotion beyond silently amused, silently aghast and silently mesmerized. Because he's got a good eye and that shouldn't be underrated.

  • March 7, 2007, 8:30 a.m. CST

    He should...

    by mrfan

    Quit acting in his own movies. He is a bad actor. He should also try other peoples script(s). It might give him a fresh perspective. He should be happy that he is directing at all. Many moviemakers would give their right nut to make one film. Also, I suggest that he quit making the world revolve around him.

  • March 7, 2007, 8:30 a.m. CST

    He should...

    by mrfan

    Quit acting in his own movies. He is a bad actor. He should also try other peoples script(s). It might give him a fresh perspective. He should be happy that he is directing at all. Many moviemakers would give their right nut to make one film. Also, I suggest that he quit making the world revolve around him.

  • March 7, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Signs is one of my favorite movies

    by SPECTRE Agent

    but M. Night long ago squandered the good faith of the general audience. And the last thing he needs to do now is roll out another preachy, ham-fisted vanity piece. If this one bombs like it looks like it will, he will be finished.

  • March 7, 2007, 9:40 a.m. CST

    If this is more global warming crap....

    by skycrapper

    count me out.

  • March 7, 2007, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Just saw Unbreakable for the first time since it...

    by Bronx Cheer

    <p>came out, and while it does have a few problems, it's a fairly solid film. It's definitely up there as far as comic book movies go. Others have touched on M's biggest problem. He thinks he's a writer. He's got the instincts and the chops the direct good movies; he needs a good writer, and a tough producer who has taste. I know nothing of what studios he's worked with, but it would be great to see Spielberg give him some guidance under the Dreamworks rubric.</p> <p>The man could be a terrific director with the proper guidance. He's shown flashes, but he's go to drop the idea of writing his own stories. NOT his strength.

  • March 7, 2007, 9:43 a.m. CST



    And I have to say that it was a pretty damn good movie. I bought it right off when it came out on DVD mostly on the strength of The Sixth Sense and upon first viewing I was unimpressed. So it collected dust. Then a few weeks ago my gf said she hadn't seen it so we put it on, and I was amazed. Its a slower paced movie, which is why I think I initially didn't like it, but upon repeated viewing I found myself totally engrossed. It's a great, underrated film. Signs and The Village still suck, though.

  • March 7, 2007, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by Bronx Cheer


  • March 7, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Here, of all places, implausible scripting

    by Guy Gaduois

    is arbited. This is the place where we talk about a Dude in hockey/ reversed shatner/ human skin mask hacking people to pieces - believably. The place where the likelihood of Dick Cheney being both the emperor from Star Wars and Osama in disguise is debated. This is the place where we discuss whether or not Hugh Jackman's height makes his metal-skeletoned mutant unbelievable or not. Here is the place where great minds join together to parse ideologies regarding which is worse: Britney Spears not wearing underwear or Galactus - all between "Damn you, Michael Bay", "too soon" and "taint" posts. This is why geeks will never rule the planet, guys. I don't know if we need a union or not, but for the love of Snake Plissken, it's escapist fare we're debating here - either you like the attempt at telling a story or ya don't. But in the name of Rollo Tomassi, I command ye to be pretentious no more! I like that the merits or negative impact of Night's work on "Lady in the Water" carries the same 'gravitas' (hey!) as the work at Los Alamos. You know, when John Cusack got radiation poisoning and swelled up and died. That was sad. Where was I going with this? Ah, yes - and for the Nobel Prize in Internets Reporting, I nominate Harry . . . to go find someone who can read the nominees to us.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST

    This guy


    Always manages to get a summer release for his films....

  • March 7, 2007, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Shamalayan bashing how very very old

    by Lovecraftfan

    Seriously every time theres a Night post it's like vroken records in here.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:29 a.m. CST

    For those who liked Lady in the Water

    by Trazadone


  • March 7, 2007, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Re: The Happening and Harry's review

    by Trazadone

    This is borne out by the fact that Harry is reading the script and doesn't mention ANYTHING that happens in it. "There's violent imagery, and then on page 40 something happens." Oh boy.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Feed Me Seymour!

    by Christopher3

    Killer plants are now the rage. "The Ruins" is being made into a movie as well.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    I'm still holding out for the M Night Bollywood Epic

    by Pound Sand

  • March 7, 2007, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Is Rerun in it?

    by houndog

    I for one can't wait to see a big screen adaptation of What's Happening? Who's going to play Dee? With Oprah as Momma and Will Smith as Rog, this is going to be HUGE!

  • March 7, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    It's M Night's version of An Inconvenient Truth

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Sorry, Night, The Day After Tomorrow already beat ya to it!

  • March 7, 2007, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Let him finish filming Unbreakble!

    by Spandau Belly

    If they'll give Helgeland money to go back and completely re-edit PAYBACK then give M. Night the money to finish Unbreakable so that it doesn't have the most abrupt ending in movie history with that stupid text on the screen.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I liked Lady In The Water

    by Lovecraftfan

    It had beautiful acting by Paul Giamatti. A unique and completely distinct vision and story. Also it had powerful themes that are relevant and important in today's mixed up world.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST


    by Bishop6

    I learned absolutely NOTHING from it about the story. Is this what gets you geeks off nowdays? MEH

  • March 7, 2007, 11:08 a.m. CST

    The only way to beat the plants!!!

    by andrew coleman

    They use gas that makes us kill ourselves that's fine we have the ultimate weapon: Global Warming stupid fucking plants don't know what is coming. Anyway this being R rated has automatically got my attention and I'm down for this. I also very much enjoy reading people talk about Night making bombs at the BO um 1 actually which is Lady. The rest have been successes not 400 million makers obviously but all have returned money.

  • March 7, 2007, 11:27 a.m. CST

    SUUUUUURE it is, Harry

    by longshot7

    I'll believe Shyamalan can do a good script when I see it. It's like he constantly films his first drafts - it drives me nuts. And as a director, his biggest mistake is miscasting himself - over and over and over. Here's hoping he doesn't do it again - ah, who am I kidding, I won't see it. He lost me after The Village.

  • March 7, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    For those of you who loved Unbreakable

    by Lovecraftfan

    Where were you when the movie came out and nobody seemed to like it. A little too late.

  • March 7, 2007, 11:43 a.m. CST


    by Cellar Door

    Very passionate opinions on this guy eh? My 2 cents are very simple and purely reactive. I could care less about Night's personal behavior/ego/whatever but I really liked Unbreakable and enjoyed most of his other work except for Villiage...I hate The Nose (jet exhaust ports...look into my skull!) after that movie...but what kills his stuff for me is his apparent need to cast himself in speaking bit parts (which seem to be getting larger each film). Please's a HUGE distraction. It's absolutely conspicuous and takes me right out the narrative. M. Night casting himself in speaking bit parts = Chewbacca Tarzan yodel in Jedi. That is all.

  • March 7, 2007, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Lovecraftfan, where were we supposed to go?

    by Bronx Cheer

    <p>I mean, was there a particular line, or website, or building where all the people who like a movie are supposed to go to offer our support for a film? I'll tell you where I was. First, I went and saw the movie. So I was at the theater spending my money. Next, I think I took kid to a park. Then I rented the DVD from Netflix, and spent money again. I watched it in my house. So just let us know where to go the next time we like a film. Just don't make it my house, because I don't like house guests.</p> <p>And why is it "too late?" What if you had not seen the film until last week? If you like it, are you supposed to shut up about it because the opportunity to voice your support for the film has gone away?</p>

  • March 7, 2007, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Unbreakable Trilogy

    by liljuniorbrown

    If he wants a " Combeback" that would nail it. Have Zack Snyder come in to help punch it up a little bit,get Sam Jackson,Bruce Willis ,Mickey Rourke (new villan?) and I smell a comeback.

  • March 7, 2007, 11:56 a.m. CST

    What, exactly, are you on about, Lovecraftfan?

    by Childe Roland

    Harry is talking about how great a script this is...a script which many have already read and didn't like (including the majority of Hollywood, but let's not use them as the primary barometer). Comments in here aren't repetitive for the sake of repetition (although I enjoy my Vroken records...especially after they got that new lead singer). They're addressing the film maker's geatest demonstrated weakness (his writing), which Harry is trying to position as a strength and the primary reason this very familiar (Day of the Triffids meets Cell) story should be made into a film. As for your Unbreakable sidebar, what the hell has that to do with anything? Sure, it didn't do so well in theaters and a bunch of mainstream movie critics panned it. That doesn't in any way diminish the appreciation for that film (or at least all but the last five minutes of it) that many of us former and closet comic book geeks had when we went to see it in the theater or when we bought it and re-watched it on DVD. It's like you're blaming us because we didn't go back and see it in the theaters a hundred times just to inflate Shyamalan's box office. It was a good movie. Could've been great with a better ending. But it had a very limited target audience that was going to appreciate it and a guy as clever as Night claims to be should've understood that going in. All that said, it's my favorite of the two Shyamalan films I like (the other being Sixth Sense), but neither is a masterpiece or terribly original in concept. And his other three films stank, mostly because they were even less original/innovative (although in Lady's case, because it was a gratuitous ego wank) than the films before them. Just because you like something doesn't make it genius. Sometimes we like things despite their flaws or inherent stupidity.

  • March 7, 2007, 12:06 p.m. CST

    I just seem to remember a lot of people really hating

    by Lovecraftfan

    Unbreakable. Therefore, I am quite genuinely surprised to find that it seems like it's most people's favorite film. Totally did not expect as all I heard at the time was that it was slow and boring. Nice to know I'm not alone in liking Unbrekable.

  • March 7, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    My two cents...

    by Crimson King

    I get excited about the prospect of an M. Night Shyamalan film. Sure, I was a bit disappointed with The Village, but it had its merits, and I did enjoy it. Lady In The Water is also flawed, but I think there was just as much right with it. I absolutely LOVE Unbreakable. I think it's such a great movie. I love everything about it. The Sixth Sense was great, too. Signs was pretty damn good. That's just my opinion. And yes, judging from my opinion, I seem to lean towards the works of M. Night Shyamalan. Even his weak efforts have a lot going for them. And one thing I love about his movies is the way he uses the camera. I love how he composes his shots, the way he uses color palettes, the angles, the movements, the takes. The dude knows what he's doing. At the very least one ought to appreciate the beauty of his films, if only on a superficial and visual level. Also, I love the music of James Newton Howard. The score for Unbreakable is amazing. Fuck it, call me an M. Night fanboy if you'd like, but the dude has talent. It's apparent even when he doesn't knock one out of the park.

  • March 7, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST


    by Crimson King

    I will admit, when I first saw Unbreakable, I was a bit disappointed with it. I went on opening night and I guess I expected something different. However, the second time I saw Unbreakable, I absolutely fell in love with it. I rented it to watch it with my mom or something (she's a huge Bruce Willis fan, and she liked The Sixth Sense) and that's when it hit me. I got that Vista Series DVD as soon as I could.

  • March 7, 2007, 12:24 p.m. CST


    by Crimson King

    I got your name wrong. My bad, Lovecraftfan.

  • March 7, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Crimson King- No problem

    by Lovecraftfan

    Lovecraftian actually sounds cooler. Its funny that you mention Unbreakable that way. When I went to see it with my friends they hated but I loved it. They seemed to have a completely different idea of what the film would be as did I but it seemed to really bother them. I also remember them going on and on about how they should never let Night make a sequel to it. I would love to see a sequel though.

  • March 7, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Harry practiacally creamed himself over

    by Yogsoggoth

    Lady in the Water. Why shuold we trust anything he says where M. Night Shamalamabingbang is concerend?

  • March 7, 2007, 12:54 p.m. CST

    I was floored by Unbreakable right off the bat

    by The Pusher

    I loved it. Which really surprised me, because I actually quite despise The Sixth Sense. I mean, it's well-produced, Bruce Willis was good in it, but the hype surrounding it became too much, and the twist was ruined for me long before I ever saw it. But Unbreakable was different. I didn't see it in theaters, but checked it out the day it hit DVD. Rented it, watched it, loved it, bought a copy the next day. M. Night's respect for the whole comic mythos I think is what makes Unbreakable. If he had been in it for the paycheck, there'd be no substance to it at all. That's what I appreciate about Night's movies. He has respect for his subject matter, even if it's pretty clearly half-baked (Lady in the Water), or ponderous (The Village, which is a movie I'm getting tired of having to defend).

  • March 7, 2007, 12:57 p.m. CST


    by Dollar Bird

    M. Night's movies are always best when the sound is off on the teevee. Then I can just look at the pretty pictures and not have to listen to the words. Also, it makes the storylines less disappointing.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:15 p.m. CST

    micheal knight - - he's the hoff man!

    by Mr_X

    i like m night. i liked signs, i liked the sixth sense, i liked unbreakable and i liked the villiage. i will see this movie. but bro, be proud of your indian name. makes these gora bhen chods respect your heritage. and that oscar? you have to do a lord of the rings style epic of the mahabharat. word.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Yeah! FOX did the right thing.

    by MrFloppy

    Go Shy!

  • March 7, 2007, 1:46 p.m. CST

    M Night....

    by landocolt45

    I hope this really stays rated R. PG-13 movies need to start coming out less frequently. Is it me or are most PG-13 movies dumbed down? M night needs to make another "Unbreakable" superhero movie. You would think that he would jump on the bandwagon with HEROES being so popular now.

  • March 7, 2007, 1:49 p.m. CST

    This Is Madness...!

    by buster00


  • March 7, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Too Venomy!!

    by boba_rob

    oh and Plant Plant Planty Plant Plant!!!

  • March 7, 2007, 2:18 p.m. CST


    by Rupee88

    Well, he may finish the script and decide that it isn't good as a whole. I jsut don't know how you read the first few pages and then say that it will be "an amazing film" without having any idea of where the story goes and if it has a lame ending.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Mr. Moe and co... and about Shyamalan

    by moto

    No one will ever be able to convince you guys otherwise, as far as your distaste for Shyamalan. Calling him a hack is quite a stretch. Saying he has no talent is an even bigger one. The fact of the matter is, Shyamalan didn't ruin THE VILLAGE and LADY IN THE WATER... your expectations did. Both of the films would be fine stand alone movies/storytelling if they were presented as is, but without the baggage of Shyamalan's name. I'm not saying they are flawless films, but TBers think so damn black and white. It's ridiculous. Calling him a TERRIBLE writer. Give me a break. On what basis?? I'd LOVE to see who you think is a great writer. Quentin Tarantino WAS a great writer... and maybe one day he will return with an original story rather than a wack job of other past genres (Kill Bill, Grindhouse). Fact is, Shyamalan offers suspense and intrigue, always keeping the audience guessing and involved. Your expectations, as well as the general public's, expected a BIG twist at the end, and the problem was, you didn't like his ending. YOU didn't like his ending. For whatever reason. Shyamalan was just trying to tell a different kind of story... trying to do something different, and it's sad to see people so pissed off by that. Hitchcock was a fine filmmaker, and he too had movies that "failed" when he tried to do something different. Shyamalan is no Hitchcock... no Spielberg... etc. Where exactly did you hear Night say that "I am the next Spielberg or Hitchcock"??? Didn't happen. The media were the culprits, as far as comparing him to Spielberg, etc. Hey, you have your opinion, and THE VILLAGE and LADY IN THE WATER didn't do it for you, fine. But I applaud a filmmaker who is willing to stand against the studio system, and EVEN against the audience's expectations, to tell the story he wants to tell. I applaud that. Whether we like it or not. Stop being a part of the majority of TBers who think so black and white. If it doesn't meet your expectations, it "fucking sucks"... it's the worse movie ever made and Night is a terrible hack screenwriter. Give me a break.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:25 p.m. CST

    always have

    by porkchop_Xpress

    i've seen each of m. night's films (except wide awake & praying with anger). i enjoyed them all, always have, though in varying degrees. i, personally, am looking forward to this new one.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Rupee88 - Harry did read the whole script

    by just pillow talk

    He still loves it. I have my doubts about it. Unbreakable is my favorite film of his, one that I will watch over and over. Sixth Sense is still okay for me, and I enjoyed Signs, even with the 'swing away'. I liked the intimate aspect of that movie. The Village...the village...the village....would not watch that again. I think he was able to raise the tension/mood in spots, but the whole premise just didn't work for me. I've never seen Lady in the Water so no comment on that one.

  • March 7, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    M. Night Shyamalan's Day Of The Triffids

    by Mr Incredible

    This guy better have a hit because he's used up his good will in Hollywood.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:13 p.m. CST

    M. Knight?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Michael Knight? Previously known as Michael Long? I gotta call KITT...

  • March 7, 2007, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Egomaniacs make poor Artists

    by TheBlackSwan

    Some M. Night quotes: "If you're not betting on me, then nobody should get money. I've made profit a mathematical certainty. I'm the safest bet you got." "Except for Pixar, I have made the four most successful original movies in a row of all time." "You get in my corner, you're going to get pummeled." "I think I take what you might call a B-movie story, deal with B-movie subjects, and I treat it as if it's an A-movie in terms of my approach, my crew, my actors, my ethics and so on. I guess that's my trademark or one of them anyway!" This man's ego could rival Satan's.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    None of You Sumbitches Called Him "Shamalamadingdong"

    by Read and Shut Up God, what has happened to the Talkbacks?!

  • March 7, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST

    The plants are too venomy?

    by henrydalton

    Wow, it's like a whole movie plot made out of talkback catchphrases.

  • March 7, 2007, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Horrible director

    by doke

    that keeps getting worse the more movies he makes.

  • March 7, 2007, 4:05 p.m. CST

    ...."he keeps getting worse.."

    by Quin the Eskimo

    THATS WHAT SHE SAID. Ummm...never mind

  • March 7, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST


    by Norman Bates

    That was a fake interview you fucking moron.

  • March 7, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    A Night to Remember

    by oisin5199

    And the bi-monthly MNS talkback rears its ugly head. The usual responses, calling him a hack and egotistical, people going through their list of which of his movies they disliked and which they hated. I still will never understand the anger towards a single individual who has the audacity to be creative and stand up for his vision. You don't like his vision. Fine. But why seething hatred? I'll never understand it. For the record, I'm usually an Ebert fan (don't always agree, but respect his opinion). But his review of the Village was so amazingly off the mark and missing the point of the film entirely, I couldn't believe that we saw the same film. And any idiot who says that the film is pointless because we saw the 'twist' coming obviously wasn't paying very close attention. And I enjoyed Lady in the Water quite a lot. I didn't need to fully understand the dense mythology. That wasn't the point. The movie was quite simple: Story, a representation of our innocence, creativity, and tendency for mythmaking, is in danger and needs to be returned home. Various characters interact with her and are transformed by the challenges that rescuing her presents. Simple as that. And Paul Giamatti was fantastic. I just don't understand what was so terrible about the film. Sure, casting himself as the writer may have been a bit of an ego stroke, but the character was still a good and believable one. If anyone else played him, would people still have such a problem with him? Personally, I enjoyed this more than any other MNS film since Unbreakable. And spandaubelly, I totally agree about the ending of Unbreakable. The film is practically flawless until that last scene. If I've ever been annoyed or pissed off at something MNS has done, it was that moment. Anyway, I'm looking forward to a less kinder and gentler Night. The Happening will happen!

  • March 7, 2007, 5:17 p.m. CST


    by DHAMAKA2007

    All u anti shyamlan's if speilberg had done 5 films out of which 2 were bad then u fucking racists would have said nothing and given him a chance and said great thing about him. I think speilberg is the most OVERRATED MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF HORSE SHIT!!! Shyamalan first three movies had great script and his last two not good BUT speilberg wotw script blew harder than those last 2 movies o shyamalan combined.

  • March 7, 2007, 6:14 p.m. CST

    ALL of these apocolyptic stories tend to go....

    by Jimmy Jazz

    .....downhill after the initial set up. The prototypical example of this is Stephen King's THe Stand. THe first half regarding the Captain Trips pandemic is some of the coolest, scariest stuff I have ever read. But then they get into the mystical "Good and Evil" rigamarole, I had a hell of a time finishing. THis seems to be par for the course.

  • March 7, 2007, 7:42 p.m. CST

    The worst part of Lady in the Water...

    by PolyesterRage

    For me anyways, was (of course) the fact that M Night cast himself as The Savior of Mankind. I just couldn't get over that he had the audacity to do that! As far as everything else goes, the structure was iffy, with the one chick having to keep asking her mom over and over about the myth (if this random lady knew it couldn't the guy likely just find it in a book?). However, I did like the rest of the characters, and the premises of the story itself and the mythology. But the M Night part...completely yanked me out of the film.

  • March 7, 2007, 8 p.m. CST

    The Audacity of M Night's Return

    by Shub-Wankalot

    That's right. It's bogus. His self-serving scripts won't stir even the dead at the box office. I'm sure he'll continue to stroke his ego, with his fawning fans providing a second hand. May I suggest kneepads.

  • March 7, 2007, 8:38 p.m. CST

    I love the end-of-the-world genre

    by JackieJokeman

    but... the TREES did it? It made me laugh out loud when I read that. Its like something Greenpeace would make as agit prop. Its the green lefts LEFT BEHIND.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    anchorite... shub... And the hate here at AICN

    by moto

    Anch, he's standing up against the studio system as far as not being pushed to make changes to the stories he wants to tell. He left Disney because they wanted "big surprise at the end" Shyamalan. They didn't understand what he was trying to do with Lady in the Water. He followed his instinct, put his career and millions on line by breaking away from Disney, and went to a studio that let him make the film he wanted. Doesn't matter if it succeeded or not. He did it his way. THAT is how he stood up against the studio system. <P> Sub, what basis do you have that his scripts are "self serving"???? That made no sense. If you mean he does it the way he wants, his vision, then I guess all of the great screenwriters are self serving then. <p> Hey, I'm not worshipping the guy or anything like that. I just don't get the hate TBers display for people like Night, or Spielberg, or whoever. They make movies... if you don't like them fine, just say "it wasn't for me." But the way you bash these people just doesn't make sense. I happen to not like some Stanley Kubrick movies for whatever reason... but does that mean I'm going to call him an egotistical, talentless hack or whatever? No. It's ridiculous. Fact of the matter is, Night's film's have made all together a HUGE amount of money... over a billion if memory serves. While box office numbers don't spell quality of a film (look at Ghost Rider, oy), they do tell us that many people are ENTERTAINED by his movies. What the fuck is wrong with that? Get off of your pedestals. Problem with this world... we love to build up our idols, but we love to tear them down even more. Sad.

  • March 7, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST

    And enough about Shyamalan being an ego-maniac...

    by moto

    Regarding the ego factor, hey, most of the goddam directors out there are egomaniacs. Most of them are complete fucking assholes on set (Oliver Stone, etc.). Kubrick was a hard nosed prick. So was Lean. Stone. Etc. Etc. Etc. Don't give me this "Oh, I hate Shyamalan because his ego is so out of control." Work in the industry people, and you will see that your most beloved filmmakers are just that, if not even moreso. Who cares though? It's about the movies they make and whether they reach an audience or not. If they don't reach you, fine, say why and move on. But don't resort to the internet fad of looking at everything black and white. You want to talk about ego, then look in a mirror at a person who stands on their own soap box, far out of reach of the "accused", judging them from afar with insults and challenge of character and talent.

  • March 8, 2007, 4:04 a.m. CST


    by BannedOnTheRun

    Apparently this is the new Holy Grail of geekdom and the way to excuse just about anything that sucks: "Well, the script was supposed to be Hard R, but the studio insisted on PG-13, so it sucked. But someday we'll see the Hard R version on DVD and it will pwn your ass!" For people who bitch about the MPAA, maybe we should lobby them to officially recognize Hard R as a rating.

  • March 8, 2007, 5:59 a.m. CST

    I can't sit though another 2 hour boring M.Night film

    by Blarney-Man

    Where the only reason the film runs 2 hours is because characters take 5 minutes to say hello to each other in a scene.

  • March 8, 2007, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Hey Yackbacker: Cast suggestions for WHTM

    by Pound Sand

    How about Tracy Morgan for Rerun, Eddie Murphy in a fatsuit for Mama Thomas, Kenan Thompson for Shirley Wilson, and Abigail Breslin for Dee Thomas. Because WHTM would be THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE, hay HAY HAY!

  • July 21, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST

    you guys are dense

    by xxmychalxx

    guess what. his films are under drama. not horror. theyre made to make people think.. and clearly none of you are capable of that. m.night is ahead of his time and anyone who thinks his writing or films suck hasnt taken any time to just listen.

  • June 3, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

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