March 2, 2007, 2:35 a.m. CST
A thought it was entertaining, not as good as Batman the Animated Series, but still pretty good.
March 2, 2007, 2:39 a.m. CST
Are they waiting til the flick hits?
March 2, 2007, 2:40 a.m. CST
by Boba Fat
Some of the cgi worked great for the action scenes
March 2, 2007, 3:01 a.m. CST
like an animated Smallville where Peter is shorted powers and caght in a love quadrangle between MJ, Felicia Hardy (Black Kitten??), and Gwen Stacy. Maybe we will see him web swing about season 3. Damn You WB!!
March 2, 2007, 3:05 a.m. CST
Im guessing the show will be filled with the wierd pseudo anime that seems to be all the rage theses days on TT and F4, and that Spider-Man will need to rely on many different types of gadgets; special spider-suits and maybe some spider-cars which will all coincidently have already been made into toys before production began. Sigh. Cant believe the DCAU got the shaft in favor of the superhero/ toy commercial crap being produced today.
March 2, 2007, 3:24 a.m. CST
by Neo Zeed
that the character designs will be shit.
March 2, 2007, 3:37 a.m. CST
Face it, none of the cartoons ever stuck with continuity of the comics. If they did, they'd still be broadcast and everyone would be happy and not confused by the garbage they DID put on TV or that ULTIMATES nonsense leaking into the plots.
March 2, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST
Even the poorly animated one...which was as close to the comic as I think we will see...Hopefully its not too much like ultimate spiderman...The mid twenties is where spiderman should be forever.
March 2, 2007, 4:51 a.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
Wow, sounds like it'll watered down for kiddies ... go buy the toys cartoon.
March 2, 2007, 5:02 a.m. CST
...for the fantastic 90s Spider-Man Animated Series? That was great, far better than the MTV CGI series.<p>And iwontwin, what are you on? The whole point of Spider-Man, as orginally conceived, was of a geeky but otherwise average *teenager* given spider powers. The Ultimate Spider-Man, the recent films, the 90s Animated Series and the MTV series all went with this - because that WAS 'close to' the comics. I guess you've never seen Spidey's first appearance in Amazing Stories #15?
March 2, 2007, 5:39 a.m. CST
awful. I rather prefer the 1990's one.
March 2, 2007, 6:49 a.m. CST
by Rapmaster C
The first two seasons, at least, were very good - I remember watching it on Live and Kicking on saturday morning; and of course, Andi Peters' shocked, open-mouthed expression after the ending of "The Alien Costume Part 2" where a shadowy, monstrous figure stated "Enjoy your fame....while....it....LASTS!".
March 2, 2007, 7:41 a.m. CST
I have a feeling it will be more like this. MJ is the costume maker. Spidy skipping out at school. Much more Aunt May angst. Could be really well done. May be very stylized too. If they stick with the Ultimate Spiderman look it will be pretty sweet though. Since the 90's Spidy pretty well covered the main comic well, this will pull it in a new direction hopefully. I just started Ultimate Spiderman a few months ago, and it's pretty good. Hard to swallow some of the re-invent stuff. The big ???? Organic or Chemical webs? The only thing that sucks about Ultimate Spidy is the constant whining about having to spend $$$ for web all the time. Oh, and more JJ
March 2, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST
And we never got to see how Webhead got out of THAT mess. The MTV series was cool -- I was disappointed that it wasn't picked up for a second season.
March 2, 2007, 8:30 a.m. CST
by gotta eat
Will probably be EXTREEEEME!
March 2, 2007, 8:29 a.m. CST
is THE BEST animated effort ever to touch the DC Universe. Just sayin'.
March 2, 2007, 8:32 a.m. CST
watch the 1966 Spider-man series sometime. Whoa, momma. Those cartoons are charming in a nostalgic, "hey, I remember watching these as a kid" kind of way...but nonetheless, they're pretty lame.
March 2, 2007, 8:34 a.m. CST
Curiouser and curiouser.
March 2, 2007, 8:38 a.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
What's the deal?
March 2, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST
I thought that was a new Spiderman Unlimited series. I remember that, Spidy and GG were friends. It was a futuristic alternate reality that Spidy was stuck in. He lived with a single mom and a kid in the slums. There was lots of weird overblacking in the animation and lots of neon colors. That's about all I remember. Time to visit EP guides for more info.
March 2, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST
Plus the whole new beginnings angle is done to death. <P> Just write it well maybe? Then you won't need any device as a hook.
March 2, 2007, 9:31 a.m. CST
This lacks ambition.It sounds like they are putting Parker in a Smallville setting. They need to do Spidey like JLU and pull out all the stops. I want to see all the classic sagas put into good animation.This idea wont do it. Good stories are lost here, Carnage , Venom , the Hunter, Sandman's redemption all need to be told. This cartoon wont do this. Wubbish.
March 2, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST
The Batman is terrible, especially as a follow up to the Justice League and Batman shows that immediately came before it. Why doesn't Marvel go after that team? Then bring in someone FROM COMICS to supervise the show's direction. Obviously DC and Cartoon Network didn't realize what they had going for them. The comics industry in general has a history of not listening to fan complaints until it is much too late, so it is to be expected they would move that dim arrogance into their animation.
March 2, 2007, 10:01 a.m. CST
by George Newman
Stupid people at WB:"Yeah, we want our cartoons to look anime, that's all the rage!" Then we get stuff like THE BATMAN, which i think is the latest mockery of anime, with Bruce wayne's inward-turned nose and what not. It's just ridiculous. These character animations look like retarded charicatures of charicatures. Barf.
March 2, 2007, 10:20 a.m. CST
I've actually enjoyed most incarnations of Marvel's cartoons, starting with Spiderman and His Amazing Friends. Sure, I was 6, but the Drafthouse showed them before the last Spiderman, and they held up in a kitschy(sp?) kind of way.
March 2, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST
From the music to the stories to the character designs, The Batman is just awful. Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why did they cancel JLU??
March 2, 2007, 10:35 a.m. CST
They made Spiderman a total wimp! They didn't want it to be too violent so Spiderman couldn't punch anybody out. Everybody kicked his ass in that show. The MTV show was pretty good. The worst was Spiderman and his amazing friends. It was all kinds of bad.
March 2, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST
What wasn't mentioned about supervising producer Greg Weisman in the story is that he was also the creator of one of the most underated genre animated series of the last few years: Gargoyles. I like the idea of that writing style coming to Spidey.
March 2, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST
The MTV series had no supervillans that i can recall off the top of my head, just Kingpin and Flash fucking Thompson, wow go figure. The Spiderman Unlimited series was worse, a GreenGoblin hero with a German accent? I'm rewatching the 67 collection right now and i have to admit i like it. I'm sick of the "anime" style of the newer toons and I was disapointed with the IronMan movie,but what do I know? I 'm still waiting fo a Punisher series in the style of the old Spawn animated series.
March 2, 2007, 11:13 a.m. CST
by Rapmaster C
...had a huge decrease in violence. In the later seasons, it seemed to be Spiderman getting his ass kicked in most of the fights.
March 2, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST
attached. just as the 1966 Cartoon hulk did. They were the ones where Stan Lee did the voiceovers. They look chaep cause they were cheap. The Batman, I only ever saw one episode and It made me feel ill.
March 2, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST
They did a great job with that, especially with some of the animation.
March 2, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST
The CG was a little primitive, and MJ's design could have used a total overhaul, but some of the episodes were really well done, especially the "Huntress" one, and the other ones with James Woods. The animation was pretty hurky-jerky in spots (it really needed someone like Brad Bird at the helm) but it had a lot of potential. Spider Man is a really hard cartoon to do in traditional animation because he's such an active character, and unless you have the creative and financial resources of the Fleischer studios circa 1940,any attempts at animating him are going to be disappointing. Oh, and the artwork for that '90s Spider Man really blew.
March 2, 2007, 12:04 p.m. CST
Was that they got the one thing right, that all other versions of Spider Man, including all the unsuccessful attempts at a live action TV series never did, and that was J.Jonah's almost Yosetie Sam-like distain (make that intense hatred) for all things Spider Man. It almost every episode J.J.J.would scream loud enough to knock his picture off the wall, while poor Miss Brant would quietly go about her business.
March 2, 2007, 12:07 p.m. CST
Of course you all know I meant to type "Yosemite Sam". Sorry.
March 2, 2007, 12:24 p.m. CST
That's right, Kyle MacLachlan is voicing Superman in the DC: NEW FRONTIER animated movie. All of the sudden, Clark Kent develops a strange fondess for Douglas Fir trees and coffee black as midnight on a moonless night...
March 2, 2007, 1:13 p.m. CST
and it should have have a different script, cast and director, too, but this is all old news of, course.
March 2, 2007, 1:14 p.m. CST
I wish Dini and Timm could get a marvel show... that would be awesome.
March 2, 2007, 1:38 p.m. CST
If it's based on that and not Ultimate Spider-Man, we all win.
March 2, 2007, 2:08 p.m. CST
by MC Vamp
Now THAT'S Cool News. Where's THAT TB? Sigh. Well, he didn't get to be George Reeves, but in my head I can totally hear Muad'Dib square-jawing it through the New Frontier dialogue.
March 2, 2007, 2:19 p.m. CST
Here's the breakdown: 60's spidy, no reference (never seen it); 90's spidy, was great for that era (those of us who were kids and grew up with it); MTV spidy (not the best) and mostly just playing off the hype for Spiderman 2, though people that still watch the crappy MTV liked it; 90's batman, duh it was great, it one awards, and it was great for our era; the batman, it's probably great for right now for this era, because all the kids who watch it love it because it is an action cartoon with batman. But older people don't like it because we have references to better done batman shows (ie, 90's or Beyond -I grew up with it and loved it). The same will probably be for the new spiderman show. The channel is called KIDS WB, meaning the show will be aimed more at kids than as a show for grownups to love too. Hell why do you think most grown ups think pokemon and yu-gi-oh are the stupidest things and kids love them. Hmm, not that hard is it. Things have a target audience and usually if it's something aimed at kids, no matter how much it sucks and older people know it sucks, it hits. So all the complaining about how they're not gonna do it right and how it will blow is really just plain stupid. It's going to be a kid show that the kids will like... Get it?!
March 2, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST
March 2, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST
where you find out that Mary Jane for ages had just been made of water and wasn't real, was when I realized that cartoons could actually carry some weight and gravity to them. Also, that MacLachlan news is great. He can never be doing enough.
March 2, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST
There is a very cute Calvin and Hobbes type cartoon strip that used to run in the comics that is actually very funny (can't remember the name but they published a few issues as well). Another great idea if they insist on anime is a Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane cartoon adapted from the comic book.
March 2, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST
My kids and I watched it all the time, and we liked it as much as Batman and Superman Animated Series. I too agree it would make for a nice DVD set.
March 2, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST
by Billy Goat
...but Kids' WB is still around. That's, like, irony, or something.
March 2, 2007, 4:42 p.m. CST
They all came in a row too, starting with the Origin of Spider-Man. I think those were the ones influenced by Ralph Bakshi. They were great, but then it all went down hill again and got cartoony when they brought back the Mole Men. The 90s Spider-Man series was flawed by never ever being shown in bloody order! Also it wasn't that best animation and I'm not sure they ever resolved what happened to the real MJ or if the real MJ learned Peter's secret (I remember a cop out with a fake MJ, but that might have been in the comics too--shitty idea either place if you ask me). The 2003 show was interesting, but the animation on the human characters felt very unnatural and mechanic--and MJ looked terrible. It also suffered for being forced into the movie continuity and for never getting resolved--I keep hearing about a season 2 but I've never seen it or heard of it airing anywhere. Good luck to a new show, Spider-Man should be a natural on TV, as natural as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, yet it has never been the perfect show it should be. I think Ultimate Spider-Man is pretty fun though and apart from it ruining most of the villains (I hate the way they did the Goblin for example), it'd be ideal for a TV show. Can't we get Joss Whedon to do this now that he's blown it with Wonder Woman?
March 2, 2007, 5:36 p.m. CST
Not unless they can learn from the mistakes they made on "The Batman" (though, actually, "Kim Possible" isn't that bad). And BTW, count me among those who think the MTV series was VASTLY superior to the 90s Fox series.
March 2, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST
...so I don't think it'll be up to snuff for most fanboys, but I'm sure the kids will LOVE it. <p> Where is Abin Sur? I'm sure he'd agree with me that the world doesn't need another Spidey cartoon, but a kick-ass GREEN LANTERN cartoon that explores the whole Corps, not just the Hal stuff on Earth.
March 2, 2007, 9:09 p.m. CST
why not make a kids show that some adults will watch too? If you go for the WB Batman/Superman/Justice League quality, you could have a show that will get some adults watching it too, and you'll have a much greater chance of re-selling the show as season DVDs if you make it for all ages. You know the geeks will tune in for the first episode, why not try and get them to stick around?
March 2, 2007, 10:20 p.m. CST
Yea you maybe right, but I grew up on the spiderman post venom days... there was a certain darkness, to those comics that I love. Whatever I've read of the ultimates, it seems a bit too cute. AND PUT THE WINGS BACK ON CAPS MASK!
March 3, 2007, 3:48 p.m. CST
by TORTURE PWN
Come on!That was one of the most enjoyable Marvel cartoons EVER.