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Quint deciphers David Fincher's ZODIAC!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with my second review of the day. I jump from Joel Schumacher to David Fincher. I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, but the Zodiac killings were before my time. However, it's impossible to grow up there without hearing all about it from neighbors, parents and grandparents. And there's always some schmoe on the news who revisited the killings. I moved before the big Zodiac book hit, so everything from then on, including the assertion as to just who was the Zodiac killer, was something I missed. I was very excited going into this movie. I loved SE7EN to death and the idea of Fincher taking on the Zodiac killer sounded great to me. I prepared myself for a different film from SE7EN thanks to some early word on the film and I'm glad I did because there's very little resemblance to Fincher's previous serial killer movie. What is similar is the level of talent in front of the camera working at their absolute best. You have Jake Gyllenhaal, Robert Downey Jr., Mark Ruffalo, Brian Cox, Anthony Edwards, Chloe Sevigny, Elias Koteas (Casey Jones!), Donal Logue, Philip Baker Hall and even Charles Fleischer, Roger Rabbit himself! And they're all fucking great. Especially Robert Downey Jr. Downey plays a smart-ass reporter named Paul Avery who catches the eye of the Zodiac killer. Avery's a man of great ego, so this is very flattering, but soon the reality sinks in and Avery begins to have this haunted quality that was just fascinating to watch. The movie is long and as a result we spend different segments in the shoes of different players in the whole Zodiac story. It's not until the end that we really spend a lot of time with Gyllenhaal, which was really surprising to me, but this part of the film was filled with the most suspense, mainly because of all the characters Gyllenhaal's gets the closest to discovering the killer. There's a sequence in a house that had me tense. You also spend a lot of time with Anthony Edwards and Mark Ruffalo, two cops, partners, that spend decades tracking the Zodiac killer. The descent into obsession is fascinating to watch. It's fascinating because you see so many different characters become obsessed with the Zodiac. Avery, Gyllenhaal's Graysmith, the two cops... every main character. The killings are shown without much razzle-dazzle, making them feel very real, like you could be sitting there with the victims. Fincher's film feels epic and you really feel they left no stone unturned. Everything you can imagine wanting to see about the Zodiac case is up there, on the screen and you have one of our most interesting filmmakers bringing it to life with a brilliant cast. I highly recommend this one. -Quint

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  • Feb. 22, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST

    sounds good

    by hif4life

    fincher is the best

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST

    looking forward to this

    by just pillow talk

    But you said the movie is long, does it feel like it then? Especially since you say it doesn't get suspenseful until the end with Jake's character.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST

    My Boner Smells Like Alcohol

    by MattyBoomStar

    That's all.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, noon CST

    That was...

    by BanAllFIRSTPosters

    short and sweet.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:10 p.m. CST

    See, now, I kind of appreciate the brevity in this one.

    by Childe Roland

    At least we didn't get a rundown of what you had for breakfast the day of the preview and how long you had to yank it in the shower before finally releasing. And it looks like you enjoyed the film, to boot. Nice.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I would've liked to hear more about where this fits...

    by gobofraggleuk

    ...among the rest of Fincher's work: not just the fact it's a different kind of film that Se7en. What other films is it comparable to, better than, in what ways? There isn't much here beyond a cast list and an 'i liked it'...

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST

    The trailer for Zodiac was cut by Cameron Crowe

    by Spandau Belly

    Just when you think it's over and you've seen the whole film, another classic rock track revs up and another montage gets going.<br><br>It was better than 'Elizabethtown'.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:27 p.m. CST

    I'm crossing my fingers that David Fincher makes...

    by rbatty024

    a second film worth watching. The only truly one-hundred percent good from beginning to end film this guy has made is Seven. He's a frustratingly mediocre director.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:28 p.m. CST

    the review is short but not sweet

    by Gwai Lo

    it's mainly just basic plot summary and "it was good". i don't like reading about the sandwich and juice that harry ate before the movie either, but i wouldn't mind a little critical analysis

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Quint = Codebreaker

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Damn Quint - crackin' "23" and deciphering "Zodiac"? Get this man a Rubik's Cube.<P>The review was concise and to the point. It might have actually convinced me to go see this one.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:32 p.m. CST


    by Gwai Lo

    While I think Fincher is a tad overrated, I think Fight Club and The Game are both on the level of Seven. Panic Room and Alien 3 not so much.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST

    ... and thus Quint has missed his flight...

    by Quintus_Arrius

    Indeed, it does sound like you were rushing Mr Quint. However, there was enough of a review to keep me extremely interested in this motion picture especially as I am a admirer of Mr Fincher's films. Thanks Quint. Hail Arrius!

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Wonder Con

    by drucifer4490

    I'm off to Wonder Con on Friday, but might see this on Friday night if I don't get into the 300 screening (and if Inland Empire isn't playing anywhere).

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 1:15 p.m. CST


    by Abin Sur

    Brevity can be the soul of wit, but brevity because you've only seen the trailer of this movie is something MUCH different. This was really more of an opinion than a review, and where I don't wanna hear about the sandwich, I WOULD like to hear some more details. Spoiler warnings can apply.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 1:17 p.m. CST

    I'll see anything Fincher does

    by Garbageman33

    He's one of very few directors I can say that about, along with PT Anderson, Wes Anderson (although he's on a short leash after Life Aquatic), Martin Scorsese and, of course, Brett Ratner.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Michel Gondry

    by Garbageman33

    How could I forget already.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST



    And I'm curious as to how it look! <p> double post...

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 1:36 p.m. CST

    That was a shitty review, Quint

    by Dannychico

    Was it a good movie or another weak effort from Fincher - as we all fear?

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:07 p.m. CST

    That's interesting, but what about

    by Olsen Twins_Fan

    Hot Fuzz?

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:23 p.m. CST


    by Quint

    It was shot on the Viper camera, as I understand it, which is a completely uncompressed digital format. To be honest, the cinematography wasn't all that amazing, but it didn't really look cheap or anything. I wasn't impressed with the Viper camera, especially when you go and look at Fincher's film work and how rich and beautiful his blacks and browns/golds are.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST


    by Quint

    Sorry for the short review. Didn't intend to stiff anybody, just had to pound it out before I could run my last minute pre-flight errands. Exciting stuff like... buying a new toothbrush and running my sweaters through the dryer. I just figured that if you don't know anything about the Zodiac killings you'll want the movie to tell you, not me, and if you do know about the Zodiac killings you don't need me to tell you everything Fincher is doing.<BR><BR>By the way, when I said the movie is long, I meant the running time is over 2 1/2 hours. It does feel like you see a lot of movie, but it isn't watch-checking long. The characters are always well worth watching, even when the suspense is light. So, there's a couple appendices to the review. A little better?

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Short and sweet

    by Fabulous Freak

    Especially compared to Harry's bloated autobiographical reviews where you find yourself learning nothing about the film, but about how it textured the landscape of his endlessly facinating life.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Im not a negative hater by the way.

    by Fabulous Freak

    I love all reviews from all reviewers.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:37 p.m. CST

    si quint, that helps

    by just pillow talk

    I have no problems with a long running time if the characters are high quality. Don't forget the toothpaste.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Saw It

    by NYCYada

    First Half was great, Second Half Sucked - slow and meandering, and the obsessive stuff wasn't all that well handled.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Jake gets the closest?

    by Douche Baggins

    so the Zodiac killer is either a psycho-bunny or a gay cowboy? or a gay psycho-cowbunny? I hope you're not flying JetBlue.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 3:39 p.m. CST



    I'm shocked that the cinematorgrphy wasn't great.... I've been hearing that everyone feels like this movie is the real tests of whether digital can even compete with film... But I feel like it shouldn't even try to compete, just use what ever you think is best that will help tell the story... It's all about the story... <p> The weather is nice up here Quint... I've heard some people tell me that it may either rain or snow so watch out!

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 3:52 p.m. CST

    sitting with victims

    by Napoleon Park

    "The killings are shown without much razzle-dazzle, making them feel very real, like you could be sitting there with the victims." -- Speak for yourself, all of my killings are quite spectacular with all the razzle dazzle you might expect. Pyrotechnic and celebratory of all things murderous. (I refer to my fictional work, of course.)

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 4:17 p.m. CST

    What's in the Box?!

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    I hope someone in the flick says, "Zodiac's has the upper hand!"

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST

    I guess I'm shocked to hear about the meh...

    by Childe Roland

    ...cinematography, as well. Fincher's visuals have been pretty powerful in the past. Haunting, even. None of that going on here at all? So all the killings play out like that scene in Se7en where Pitt cacks John Doe? I mean, that one was powerful because of its simplicity juxtaposed with all the death we'd seen prior, but if all the deaths in Zodiac are like that, what generates the fascination/obsession for these characters?

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST

    woah Quint, perfunctory much?

    by newc0253

    you say you liked the film but i get about zero sense of any emotional engagement other than guff like "I felt tense watching one scene in the house". you felt tense? really? during a movie about a serial killer? wow, that david fincher, he a master filmmaker, huh? i'm pleased that you skipped the whole "what i had for breakfast a week before i saw the movie" schtick that harry does with his reviews, but at least harry and moriaty manage to convey some sense of how the film made them feel, how they engaged with it, how it entered their head. i got nothing from your review except that it isn't much like se7en. thanks, buddy. kudos.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Yeah, that review was pretty much useless to me.

    by JackBauer24

    It wasn't that the review itself was bad... if it had been a review for some cool little film you'd seen on the off-chance. But the fact is that the reason we all come to this site is not for standard, objective, local paper-style, 500 word reviews. The reason we come here is so that when DAVID F'n FINCHER's new movie is reviewed it is treated with the respect it deserves. It is a BIG DEAL. I'm not saying you have to like the movie, but Jesus, put some fucking heart into it. Is Fincher back on his A-Game, is it as good as Seven, Fight Club? I mean those were two of the greatest movies of the 90s! But to come here and get a quick: 'oh, btw saw Zodiac, it was cool. Now, what's for tea?' is just not on. Moriarty's about the only one I can read on this site anymore since Harry started putting grotesque imagery of him and his bloody fiancee into every review. *sigh*

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST


    by SanityKaos

    The review was fine...I dig Fincher but I must confess I have yet to see Panic Room....You can't be too mad at the guy for Alien 3, he was probably just trying to make whatever film he could to get out of music videos and into filmmaking (and that movie sucked cause the story was bad, not the directing)...I seem to remember talk about Fincher wanting to make and interesting fim called "The Passenger"....Anyone know what happened with that?

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 6:37 p.m. CST

    My problem with Fincher is that he's visually...

    by rbatty024

    proficient but sometimes he loses control over the story. The Game was an interesting idea but you could poke holes in the premise all day long (how did they know exactly where Michael Douglas was going to jump off the building at the end?) Fight Club had some great moments (especially ending it with The Pixies) but the twist took us out of the film right before he was starting to critique the Fascist element of Fight Club, and ultimately made the film eerily close to Fascist propoganda. And Edward Norton shooting himself in the head smacks of poor writing. Sometimes my vitriol at the guy is merely because I know he can do better.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST

    All you bitches talking shit about David Fincher..

    by polyh3dron

    have OBVIOUSLY never had the opportunity to sit through a Paul WS Anderson or Uwe Boll film. You probably have never seen a film by Michael Bay, Brett Ratner or McG either.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Well either that or,

    by polyh3dron

    you're big fans of all of them.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Can't wait to see this and Black Snake Moan together...

    by DanielKurland

    So glad that Quint enjoyed this. That fucking shot in the trailer of the San Francisco Bridge overhead is beautiful.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST

    The Knight - Viper a real test?

    by half vader

    Superman Returns used the Viper too, right? Everybody might have had a good go at the story, but I don't remember ANYbody saying it looked like video. So I guess that means it was a success.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Hey, man, I like short reviews but that was just

    by Orbots Commander

    a plot summary. And at the end: "I liked it. See ya'..." Not criticizing, just sayin', that's all.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Sounds good. Colour me interested

    by Teamwak

    Nice review, Quint. I like me some Fincher!

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 8:09 p.m. CST


    by JackBauer24

    Seven is not 'whack'. It's like the greatest serial killer movie of.. well, at *least* the 90s (yes, better than Silence of the Lambs - by a country mile). Of course, difference of opinion is a wonderful thing and the world would be a very boring place if we all agreed all the time but the fact remains that I'm right and you're not. Seven rocks.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 8:17 p.m. CST


    by Gwai Lo

    "No track record whatsoever" is a little harsh when he has some genre classics under his belt, like it or not the man has directed some of the most well received films of the 90s. Calling the Game awful and Panic Room terrible is a bit ridiculous. I didn't like Panic Room all that much but there is no need to be so ruthlessly hyperbolic. Especially when so much of what comes out every year has no authorial stamp on it, just mindless studio crap that's directed by some mindless studio director. I am not even all that crazy about Fincher, and maybe I'll agree that he is a bit overrated, but he has definitely earned his stripes as a director with films that, if not entirely without flaws, are always very well made and entertaining.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Holy run on sentence Batman

    by Gwai Lo

    put a period in there somewhere

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Good to hear.

    by AnnoyYou

    I'm glad it's a good film, because it went over budget and way over schedule, mainly because (from the accounts of two people I know who worked on it) Fincher is a raving lunatic. He made everyone's life a living hell on the shoot -- but I suppose that doesn't matter if the end result is good.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Childe Roland


    Maybe Mori will go into more detail about the Cinematography. Once his review pops up sometime next week probably...

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 9:03 p.m. CST

    half vader/Panavision Genesis


    Hey man, If I’m not mistaken, Superman Returns used the Panavision Genesis Camera. <p> The Viper's data went "uncompressed" straight to a hardrive while the footage for Superman Returns went on "Compressed" tape... They say the Uncompressed stuff has a better quality bit I guess that depends on who you're talking to... Hope that helped...

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Michael Mann did use the


    Michael Mann did use the viper camera in Collateral and Miami Vice though... With compressed tape...

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 10:02 p.m. CST

    rbatty024-The twist in Fight Club made the movie.

    by Lovecraftfan

    Also how does it make the movie fascist propaganda. Yes I suppose standing up to what you believe is just wrong or something. Anyway the twist put a great ironic period to his relationship with Marla and brought characters arc to agreat close. I'm amazed at the amount of peoploe who hate Fincher

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Film vs Digital

    by Bronx Cheer

    People get too hung up on film vs HD. Superman Returns was Panavision's Genesis, as was Apocalypto. The Viper makes good pictures, but the Genesis is a much better "movie" camera. And if you want blacks, you want to use HD. Film sucks with blacks and shadow detail. HD doesn't like whites and brightness. They're both valid tools, yielding different results.

  • Feb. 22, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Look, people....

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    ....anyone can review a film and give you a ton of hyperbole that makes you feel better about plunking down your cash. Quint gave what I feel was a refreshingly quick and dirty review of a film he liked. Sure, he didn't come out with something like "Fincher will take your fanboy ass out and rape it with broomsticks and you will jizz 18 loads of geekgasm with EVERY SINGLE GLORIOUS QUICKTIME-LIKE DIGI-FRAME!!!!1!1 LOL R0xx)rz yr B0xx)rz!11!! TEH SH17!!!" And I think we're all better for it! Now quit expecting so fucking much and quit shitting all over everything you've not even seen. Just go and see if you like, or don't if it's not your bag. Just please stop whining!

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 12:02 a.m. CST

    It's Been So Long Since a Fincher Film

    by Professor Krapp

    His Alien movie wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. The Game was a lot of fun, but totally improbable. Se7en was great, still the best thing he's done. Fight Club was a bunch of fun, but it wasn't great, and Panic Room was really good, but nowhere near great. So I'd really like Zodiac to hit it out of the proverbial ballpark. The Professor is worried about this one.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Oh, And I Once Thought I Knew the Zodiac Killer

    by Professor Krapp

    Or at least I once thought I knew who he was. I've since abandoned that theory, but I had some good evidence, and it creeped me out for quite a while. I know the case well, and was around it all when it was happening, so I think that raises my expectations of the movie. It is one of the most fascinating cases of its kind. Strange that it hasn't been a movie sooner...

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Thanks Knight, Bronx

    by half vader

    I was confusing Supes with Collateral. Interesting how the tech has improved at a rate of knots from the dodgy noisy shadow detail and blacks in SW Ep. 2 (which was streets ahead of the underwater and Qui-gon stuff in Ep.1) to the dark Collateral stuff and on to where it is now. I don't remember the icky halo highlights being present in Supes (the dvd quality is a bit lousy to tell) but yeah it seems like that's the one they need to kick. I like that with SED (if it ever turns up) and plasma 2.0 we'll be able to watch 7 and Fight Club as they were meant to be seen with truly black blacks. I would have loved to see a film print with the silver retention process though. Again, it's probably my faulty memory but I thought the Genesis had 4:4:4 all the way through (except for live monitor output or something)?

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Professor Krapp, please share

    by thebearovingian

    WHO WAS THE ZODIAC? I don't want you to defame anyone so leave out a name if you have to but at least give us some details/ reasons why.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 12:51 a.m. CST

    It's a long story

    by Professor Krapp

    I was going to school (Jr. High) in Berkeley during the Zodiac killings and was engrossed by the whole thing. I read everything I could find on the case, newspaper clippings, magazines, books, blah blah blah. Flash forward to the early 80s and I'm in college in Oregon, and I get to know one of my Professors. And his interests were the same that the Zodiac displayed, especially in Gilbert and Sullivan and puzzles and cryptograms. He was quite brilliant. One of the books I read claimed that Zodiac was a prominent member of society in a neighboring state, and this particular Prof. was quite well known. Also creepy. And his name was related to one of the signs of the Zodiac. Anyway, I worked myself into a froth over the whole thing, and found all these parallels that convinced me he was the guy. I even reported my suspicions to the police. They probably thought (rightly so) that I was using drugs. One drunken night I called this Professor, and flat out accused him of being the Zodiac. His response wasn't to deny it, or ask who I was or even to just hang up. He just said "What if I am?" I hung up. And he sounded so fucking creepy. I graduated soon after that and left the state. I think now it was just youthful exuberance and an active imagination. I think. The Professor has said too much. I will go now.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Quint- Amazing how far Fincher's come since Alien3, eh?

    by GreatWhiteNoise

    I remember cursing his name to the heavens after that hatchet job, where Ridley Scott and The King Of The World had done such fine work. But just about everything since then (Se7en, Fight Club, Panic Room) has been pretty tight. The Game was a little hokey, but even it kinda worked in the end. So it's good to hear positive buzz on this.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Well to be fair to Fincher Alien 3 was a mess

    by half vader

    before he even came on and the nightmares never really stopped. Most anybody who's read anything about Alien 3 knows Fincher did the best he could in an impossible situation. Having said all that, has anyone seen that big-arse dog alien Sideshow had at the New York Toyfair? Super expensive but damn is it cool.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Saw it tonight

    by Trader Groucho 2

    Good flick.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Will it be better than Dirty

    by sstlouis

    Will it be better than Dirty Harry?

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Prof Krapp

    by just pillow talk

    Keep in touch periodically here on the TB's...just in case.<p>An interesting story, and like you said, it may be because of your youth. But I do have to say that that Professor's response to your question would have scared the crap outta me. Drunk or not.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Seven ain't "whack"...

    by JimmyLoneWolf

    I don't see how time has been unkind to it...has society really changed that much since it came out? I still think its his best overall film...but Fight Club and The Game are both very good movies that come extremely close to perfection. I do agree with the poster who said ending Fight Club the way Fincher did enhances its fascistic elements...but its still a really cool ending and makes the film MORE controversial than the book! A good thing. Fincher is great.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST

    What I REALLY don't get...

    by JimmyLoneWolf the continued hate for Panic Room. Everyone from friends I've watched it with, to a film professor, have derided this film. I just don't see what the problem is...its his least ambitious film, to be sure, but its very entertaining and as a Hitchcockian popcorn movie I think it succeeds admirably. In fact, it reminds me of Rear Window made with the benefit of digital technology. The cinematography is great from start to finish and the film is a superb example of "rollercoater ride" filmmaking. Absolutely his most underrated film!! Give it another chance...

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 10:59 a.m. CST

    'panic room' isn't a patch on 'rear window'

    by newc0253

    but it's still a solid piece of entertainment. even at his worst (alien 3), fincher's stuff is fantastically atmospheric. 'panic room' isn't anything like as good as 'se7en' or 'fight club' but i certainly didn't hate it.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Finchers worst

    by kilik777

    Is still better than most directors great.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Sorry to shock you but..

    by The Advance Guard

    There is a lot of people in this room who think they know shit but they are way off base! They are so leftfield that they cannot even see the bogie on the end of ther noses! I would love to slap ZombieSolutions and KipKinkel to this side of sunday! Come on boys - stop being jealous of Brad, he gets pussy - YOU DON'T!

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Nice story Professor Krapp.

    by mrfan

    Very good indeed.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 9:35 p.m. CST

    KipKinkel, it's MORE powerful with Mills not dying.

    by half vader

    If you can't see that you probably think Brazil didn't have a happy ending (no I'm not talking about the bastardised version). I find it completely bizarre you say FC has no 'rewatchability', too. Oh to be as cooler-than-thou as you. "Seven was good in the theatre but sucked on video." Jesus Christ, as Mr. Slave would say. Slap away, Guard.

  • Feb. 23, 2007, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Professor Krapp

    by thebearovingian

    Interesting stuff. Thanks.

  • Feb. 24, 2007, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Wow Kilik

    by half vader

    I had a look at your blog. Fucking scary, and not too bright. And was that even a sentence (most directors great)?