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Stan Lee Versus Sylar!! HEROES 1.16!! SWEEPS DAY 19!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
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NBC says:
Peter painfully learns that someone close may have betrayed him and Claude (guest star Christopher Eccleston). Matt's world spirals out of control when radioactive man Ted Sprague (guest star Matthew John Armstrong) and Hana Gitelman (guest star Stana Katic), a fierce young woman with "wireless" mental abilities, drop into his life. After blood is spilled, Hiro makes a difficult decision about his mission. Claire is unable to contain her anger at her father. Tawny Cypress, Santiago Cabrera, Noah Gray-Cabey, Ali Larter, Adrian Pasdar, Sendhil Ramamurthy and Leonard Roberts also star. Jimmy Jean-Louis, Lisa Lackey, James Kyson Lee, Zachary Quinto and Cristine Rose guest-star.
“Somebody flies, somebody dies,” somebody whispers during each of those promos. Someone may indeed die in this week’s episode, titled “Unexpected,” but we’re still two weeks from losing a regular on March 5.
What we do get tonight is Stan Lee, creator of Spider-Man, The X-Men, Hulk, Daredevil and a host of other classic Marvel icons, who plays a bus driver who runs into Sylar.
What comes beyond tonight, we cloak in the text invisible:
* 1.17 (Feb. 26), titled “Company Man,” will see Matt and Radioactive Ted have a sit-down with Jack Bennet, and we learn much about Jack’s past via lots and lots of flashbacks – including one depicting how he came into possession of Claire.
* 1.18 (March 5), titled “Like Any Parasite,” is the one in which Peter, Nikissica, Micah, Jack, Mohinder or Simone gets killed. It’s also the episode in which Peter finally meets Linderman – who, says TV Guide’s Michael Ausiello, may or may not be played by Malcolm McDowell. We also meet sexy Candice Wilmer (“Stick It” star Missy Peregrym), whose superpower appears to be that she’s impossible to resist.
* 1.20 (TBD) looks likely to take viewers to the time of FutureHiro.
9 p.m. Monday. NBC.
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woo.
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doesn't take much to cheer me up...or let me down...
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Where'd that come from and isn't he filming Halloween?? Did I completely miss Eric Roberts? Wasn't he supposed to be Linderman?
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"Save the cheerleader, save the world." "Are you on the list?" and the next catchphrase? "By the hoary host of Hiro!" or Nathan: "With great power, comes great credibility." or "If you don't stop the boom, then you will all meet your doom."
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The clip on the heroes website with Sylar, Mohinder, and that old lady looks pretty cool. Can't wait!
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He's not Linderman. He's an old pal of Jack Bennet's ...
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Probably the best show on TV right now. Atlest Lost is getting better after the Desmond episode, but in my book this show still tops that one.
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NBC is trying WAYYYYYY too hard with that shit. Time to settle down and let the show speak for itself.And I don't think Missy Peregrym needs a power to be impossible to resist. I endured Stick It just to watch her in gymnastics outfits. By the way, BRING BACK HIRO'S POWERS. I'm tired of the quest for the sword bullshit.
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He didn't any of those Marvel heroes and teams without the help of artists, editors, and other members of the bullpen. He tried to hog all the credit, God knows, but then again he has claimed responsibility for other people's work for decades now. He really screwed over Jack Kirby....
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because after March 5th, it's gonna be a string of rereuns until the final stretch into May sweeps and the end of the season. Oh well, at least Jack gets to rule the 9 o'clock hour for a month or so.
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I would assume that Ando dies after reading that. It must be done in order for Hiro to finally step up and regain his powers.
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well anyway, I coined a term for the cheerleader's real mom, but it may be too long. "Twisted Firestarter"!!! get it? like the Prodigy song? cos she's a pyro and she's hella sketchy and mean and greedy?anyway, looking forward to this episode, but now that I know we get to see future Hiro's time in some way, I CANNOT wait.chrth, I want just my scores this time, not the whole teams. I'm averaging 180 or so. the team we're playing is not very good, but I've got a little cold.
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And noted feminist and academic dr Geremaine Roasted the show while reviewing it or Newsnight reviews blasting it as the worst sinister tosh to come from america in years. She singled out what she felt was an arayan angle to this show. It starts on Channel six in Ireland very soon. The observer tv guide liked it and said it was worth sticking with. so well see.
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"We also meet sexy Candice Wilmer (“Stick It” star Missy Peregrym), whose superpower appears to be that she’s impossible to resist."
My god could they rip any more characters from this graphic novel? I mean, seriously, the show is great, but for those of us that loved this comic it's like we have already seen portions of it. Do you think they know that one of their writers is taking ideas from RS? -
My superpower is that I rock.
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.... or will it be something lame like Nikki psychologically "killing" Jessica and then having to learn how to access her powers? Didn't Eden already have "irrisistability power" with that funky voice thing? Oh well, she's dead. "Melt Boy" had the dumbest powers this side of Matter-Eater Lad, I wonder why Sylar even bothered?
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Did anyone notice on ER last week, one of the team who was trying to fix the cheerleader who got beaten up, he used the quote 'Save the cheerleader, Save the World'!!!
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I saw my name on the list. Just to spoil it for everyone, I have an impenetrable taint. Everything else is paper thin. It's about as useful as Meg's extending fingernails from that Family Guy episode.
As for the dead person, it will be Ando (unfortunately) or Simone (meh, who cares). I really wish it would be Matt's wife, the two-face. She has the irresistible power of making me want to change the channel whenever she is on. -
This is bullshit!
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Stana Katic is THE TRUTH!
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He will train a precocious group of All-American Heroes with Eric Roberts' help to fight the evil Korean baddies just like in Best of the Best.
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Is Claire's 'adopted' father - Mr. Bennett, Horn-Rimmed Glasses (HMG) as he's usually referred to - actually named Jack? I thought there was a running joke about nobody knowing his first name.
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P, N/J, Mi, J, Mo or S
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"Melt Boy" had the dumbest powers this side of Matter-Eater Lad, I wonder why Sylar even bothered?"
Uhh, are you kidding? The ability to decomposite any matter? Sylar would have been able to melt his bonds and the door and anybody or any physical thing that got in his way. The possibilities are endless. That's a very powerful ability. Although I'll have to admit Matter Eater Lad was pretty lame, but that Bouncing Boy! What a hero! -
and Ando death's would affect the fans the most after Hiro. So I think he's the logical one.
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Either his name is revealed next week, or Herc is playing with the fact te actor's name is Jack.
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i watch a show about mutant heroes to see mutant powers. havent seen any in weeks. how many episodes are left? im starting to think EVERY series would be better off with 13
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"I'm starting to think his mind is no longer mint condition."
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"You can't even change into Bill Bixby."
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Plus a regular is killed in two weeks: I'd guess it's the Muggle woman (ie: Claire's adopted mum) tonight. Sure, she's a regular too, but y'know... crap with it. And I agree with aestheticity: we need more powers on show... Unless they're saving the series budget for later episodes where we see some team-hero smackdown in all its glory. I don't know if that's how financing these shows works, but that's what I'm hoping. As I've said before Simone and Matt's wife are just rubbish... it's made out that you're supposed to have sympathy for them, but they just get in the way with their whining etc. Matt's wife has an affair with his best friend, so what does he do to get back at her? He fucking gets back together with her and uses his powers to make her as happy as possible. Yep, that'll show her. Do us a favour and get rid of them both (Simone and Mrs Matt, not Simone and Matt).
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I forgot to mention that. I think the difficult decision might just be to split up with Ando for his safety after what happened last week. Maybe someone in their storyline dies, but I'm not so sure it will be Ando.
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He is a scientist who learns that
his power is that he can turn any object into a delicious meal. Good guy to have back at the Hero HQ, but not so much out in the field. Unless he can get close enough to a bad guy to turn their gun into a bowl of chili. -
I didn't think there could be anything gayer than "cheerverine". I was wrong.
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Claire's real mom, Twisted Firestarter, is gonna die. think about it: she's sketchy in terms of her morality, she doesn't contribute anything beyond connecting Claire to Nathan, which she did, she talked about "going on a trip to Mexico"...come on! they could bump her off no problem, and it wouldn't affect anything except for to motivate Claire to get on with her quest. no way ando can die!! I will fly to LA and fuck Tim Kring up, real shitty.
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I do think it'd be a cop-out, I just thought she kinda doomed herself talking about her "vacation"...ando might die, but I Can't imagine he'll die so soon. Hiro is NOT ready to be on his own, yet. not to mention, they're separated at the moment, right? I think Isaac is a good bet, since in theory, Peter could paint the future,if he's emotionally connected. oh well, I guess we'll see!and the Bee movie trailer WAS funny! ;o)
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Hmm.
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Someone dies tonight, and then the BIG death happens on March 5th.
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So ... they have a lousy goalie? Since when does the opposing team's ability have anything to do with your score? Or are you so psychologically vulnerable that your opponents' behavior dictates yours?
I can't recall how many games you roll, but you're going to average a 174. That's your punishment for your lack of focus. -
I'll be listening to Sirius radio online (Spa 73: Relaxing Sounds of the best in new age and ambient music), watching Deal or No Deal, posting comments about Deal or No Deal in this TB (since it's NBC), and playing Trace Memory for the DS. Simultaneously. Why? BECAUSE I'M THAT FUCKING BORED.
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I think Peter finds out that Teaser Trailer Man (which can be sung to the tune of Walkie Talkie Man) alerted HRG about the painting. Don't know why that would be painful for him ... unless they mean physical pain.
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And yes, that makes me racist for thinking all Asian people are the same.
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That case once had a million dollars in it twice in one show.
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I dont know who dies tonight, but the death on March 5th is a 'regular"..that means a serie regular, somebody who has been in the main credits since the beginning of the show, so invisible guy and radioactive guy and claires mom dont count. if you want to get technical, somebody has died in almost every week of this show...Jackie the cheerleader, Eden, Charlie the Waitress, Melting guy from last week. Its not exactly news every time somebody dies anymore.
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Just thought I'd mention that, especially with all the former strippers on the show.
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Why dosn't David Bowie sing the theme song? Come on its a perfect fit.
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That's a tough call. However, I think with two big amounts left on the board, I'd have to pick another case.
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Ouch 500k.
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Damn you Loch Ness Monster! Oh wait, that's 3.50. TAKE THE CASH.
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Don't give it back!
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Now we see who flies and who dies. :D
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...The Matrix Has You.
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just for one day.
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Dale's getting a whiff and it's the poo.
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I love seeing Peter get the shite kicked out of him...
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...the guy from Coach?
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Has now switched to Heroes. And that's saying something to me about how screwed the pooch 24 has gone.
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Is from Coach I bet...
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I hate that scarf...
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OMG Sylar is creeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy.
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He is fucking Neo!
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Someone flies. Now I'm guessing it's MamaClaire who dies...And where the hell is Nathan Petrelli?
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Best scene of Heroes so far ... easily!!!
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What a ridiculously awesome fucking showdown it would be .... one power after another ... mental and physical powers!!!!
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Something tells me a major plot twist is fugging nigh.
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I luuuurv Adrian Pasdar. *is shallow*
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HOLY CRAP
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there goes hearing lady...
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her favorite wrench to beat him with .. oh wait.. that would not work..
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It's like he specifically isolated the girl and gun, reversed their time within their bubble, giving the other shooter more time to tackle her!@
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Feb 19, 2007 8:43:58 PM CST
If I were Sylar, I'd wait for a better power before I..
by george newman
killed someone and ruined the plan with Mohinder
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good point .. very possible. I thought he just reversed time a bit - enough time for that bullet to move ahead by 10 inches or so and then back... you make a good argument.
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He is addicted to the gray matter and can't help himself...
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Aw heck
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Who shot HR?
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Now you can't turn the hearing stuff off can you? You jackass...
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No doubt.
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or Sylar will cut you freakin head off...or at least the top of it...
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Mohinder
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No Jessica/Niki/Black Phasing Guy/Annoying Pesky ATM Kid...
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he's a stupid idiot.
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It a directorial thing.
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Thursday on NBC.
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The bathrooms on Greyhounds STINK!
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aahhhh, meaningless
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Bummer, that.
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Stan Lee never left
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Say yer prayers, HRG Guy...
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lunes
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holy crap
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The somebody who gonna...
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Simone!
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SIMONE HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
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and the winner is Simone...
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or peter
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Damn, damn...
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At least Nathan will be happy ... she cannot go public...
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What about Peter seeing her in his prophesies? What are these prophetic powers?
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If Simone is dead, then that means Peter's vision of the future has become altered.
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that he can change the course of time. sort of.
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I wonder if he'll become a psycho lunatic and start eating brains as well? So this is like zombies eating brains, but they move fast, aren't decayed, and are intelligent. All in all though, this episode rocked, and it really brought out the twists and turns.
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Can't say I saw that one coming. I thought it was going to be Claire's adoptive mother for sure (tonight). If they kill off Peter in two weeks I will be pissed off!
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You think mere bullets can stop the power of !AWESOME!? I think NOT, beeyotch. ;)
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who'da thunk peter would turn out to be so badass? and the great scene with sylar asking mohinder about his father cancels out the questionable decision to eat daredevil lady's brain.
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And they better stop introducing new characters and develop some of the regulars. If this show goes like Lost, they'll alienate me by the beginning of next season. I hope that doesn't happen. But I'm tired of quick little scenes with each character with only a tiny bit of plot happening. That's just stupid fucking stupid.
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So why is it that people can't relax and need to know the conclusion to the entire show right this second.
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Any ideas?
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Guess that the "big death" happened earlier than y'all thought, eh?
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Mr. Muggles gets smoked on March 5th
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the rate this TB is going, won't be long now. (btw, try saying 1076th ten times really fast - it's like being a hamster chewing a caramel toffee)
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I'm going to wal-mart in a little while
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Here I thought you would be the moral anchor of the show. The mister goody two-shoes of the bunch. Now look at you, jobless, stealing, lying to your wife. To top it all off, crazy radioactive guy, you know him Matt, the guy that was killing people and foaming at the mouth a few weeks back calls you on the phone and what do you do? You go meet him in the middle of the night! You are so concerned about your wife and future kid that you drop everything and go with glowing lumber jack and that low budget Trinity clone and head to Texas to kidnap HRG guy and hold his family at gunpoint. Matt, please don't think I am being a asshole here, I am only saying this because I still have hope in you. Come on Matt, drop the zero's and get with the Heroes!
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Hey there.... something interesting.
I was at Megacon this weekend in Orlando Florida and while I was in line to meet Sean Astin... I looked over and saw Tawny standing there in line to meet Efren from Napolean Dynamite. I asked to take her photo and she was incredibly friendly. She had hosted a panel on Heroes that I missed unfortunately...but it was a great surprise to run into her randomly like that.
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I like the new characters. Everytime a new one is introduced they get used to tell us more about sylar.
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What do you guys see in this show? Lame, Lame, LAME.
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I get it. "Moral ambiguity" is all the rage. Are they or aren't they? But I would just like to see a little fucking consistency. I get it, Peter is angry, but I think maybe he pushed it a tad too far tonight. Unless they go the Rogue route and have him absorb a part of a super's personality as well. All said, it should be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Here's a theory. Since Peter's vision wasn't exactly a picture like Isaac paints, and the pictures that Isaac painted aren't exactly clear, maybe Sylar is the man-bomb? The comments about the island I think is more of a nod to Marvel Comics and Stan Lee. Nathan may be referring to Genosha, and he may become like Senator Kelly (mutant registration?). Finally, the focus was all over the place tonight, but I did notice they were trying several times to keep people in two different distances in focus. Look at the scene with Clair and HRG in the hospital. Excelsior!
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....none of you talkbackers have figured this thing out yet. Obviously this series is setting the story up for a Season ending Uber-mega hero-battle between Sylar and Peter, that probably will end on a major cliff-hanger going into next Season. Chances are that, other than the powers that Peter got from Sylar during their brief encounter in Texas (i.e telekinesis), they wouldn't have any other similar powers by the time that fight rolls around, seeing as Sylar has to dispose of his victims in order to get their powers. I could see this coming a Mile away, - way back when Sylar was revealed. Oh, and allow me to be the first to mention it(seeing as no one else has); - because it was so unexpected, that scene of Peter flying away with Ecclestone on his shoulders, was way waaay cooler than all the flying scenes in Superman Returns combined - save for the Plane saving sequence (which was itself also done it by the moronosity of trying to turn and control the plane by grabbing the farthest end of its wing - as f these guys never did high school physics and ultimately leading to it breaking). Yes, I said it!!!! Hilarity ensues and all the Singer-apologists crawl out of their spider-holes to jump down my throat. Search your hearts my sily little Lemmings, you know this to be true.
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Remember Hiro stole the sword. And as far as MA, well we could get into Kant's Categorical imperatives, the ends justifing the means and whether you should lie to the Nazi's about the Jews you are hiding since lying is bad. People make choices, you weight the alternatives, assess the risk and act
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.....NBC received their cheque from Steve Jobs and the iPod Nano dept.,a s well as from the Nissan Versa people. Am I forgetting any other shameless product placement here? Jeeeez!!! Man alive!!! Talk about milking that gravy train and shamelessly pimping and plugging products like it's going out of style.
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HEROES keeps getting compared to LOST and Jeph Loeb has been a producer on both shows, so I imagine this was an in-joke just like the NCC-1701 license plate last week.
I do think we're heading for a Sylar vs. Peter showdown in the May season finale, although I highly doubt either of them will actually wipe out New York. I'm guessing Sylar makes a tasty brain snack out of Radioactive Man and eventually goes boom, but Peter absorbs and contains the explosion. It would, however, be interesting if Peter ends up becoming the new Sylar for Season 2...
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God, this episode was awesome, and it pissed me off at the same time.1. This installment really has me thinking that theres a real chance, that Heroes could quite possibly overtake Xmen in terms of popularity with the general public. And it's a fucking shame. (WAY TO GO FOX! YOU BASTARDS!!!)2. Peter flying, makes me wonder how much cooler Smallville would have been without being held back by the fear that it would compete with a bigscreen Supes. (WAY TO GO WARNER BROS.! YOU BASTARDS!!!)
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Simone was the most painful character to watch one screen...no wait that goes to Nikki/ Jessica....ack no it's totally Mohinder...ugh but I really hate Matt's wife....or maybe Claire's ridiculously annoying and poorly acted brother Lyle...gah....man there are TOO MANY CHARACTERS AND TOO MANY THAT SUCK!...and what the fuck Hiro?...quit being such an angsty bitch and make this show fun again...
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like, a million people have already predicted every one of your "I'm so smart and all of you are so dumb, I can't believe that you haven't figured out that.." tidbits months ago. The reason why no one mentioned these ideas in this talkback is because it's old news and not that interesting anyway. What's your next scary precognitive vision? Is the island in Lost a type of purgatory? Is Liberace gay? Will Iraq turn into a powder-keg? Is Stephen Colbert not completely sincere in his conservative ideology? Hey, maybe he's really doing a spoof of O'Reilly. I can't believe that none of you guys have figured that out yet.
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use Hiro's power to reverse time and have Simmone not take two to the chest?
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Typically games do ship on Tuesdays, but Crackdown shipped last week. It will be available everywhere tomorrow.
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So the next ep is a HRG origin story. I wonder if he tells "The Specimens"(I didn't name them that but wished I did) the truth or will he just be biding time until the Haitian can get there and cancel out their powers. And how in the hell did he get back to Texas so fast. I think that multiple man theory might have something to it.
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Revealing that info about Jack so soon is awesome. I love lost but they would have made us wait at least 4 seasons for the ingo.
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Uh, I hate to tell you but you're not the only guy to figure any of this out. It's just that your need for attention and to look smart to others is greater than most, so you manifest it in glib smugness, and tell us the obvious, thinking incorrectly that you have some kind of exclusive vision.
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Feb 19, 2007 11:58:50 PM CST
Ijust bought crackdown at wal-mart, just after midnight
by george newman
time to bust some heads. This game is great. level up your agility enough and you're hopping from roof top to roof top like spider-man
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Simone and The Ear both kicked tonite . That leads me to wonder will one of them come back from the dead. They kinda had me when they killed The Ear and up until that final scene with Simone I was thinking 'what a copout'. I was glad to see that Ando was not killed just winged but will he return in future eps to help Hiro?
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Peter reverses time to save her
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He took all the credit for creating those characters for years, and the ideas he's comes up with now are hardly relevant to anything worthwhile, ie Striparella""
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?Look it from their vantage point: HRG was the creepy evil dude who kidnapped them and tortured them just to see how they tick. In their minds, they are simply stopping a bad guy, albeit in a rather fucked up and reckless manner. But if that happened to me, I would be rightously pissed off and looking for payback too.
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Where is all this bashing of Stan Lee coming from? Without him, Spider-Man, Hulk, X-Men, FF, etc would not exist...sure the artists get some credit too, but Stan is the Man. I've never heard him take 100% credit for those creations...I've heard him give the artists props.
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It's a dumb, fun show...it's written for about a 12 year old audience, but it's clever enough to keep me mildly amused. Every week the characters do and say (and don't say) the most illogical and unrealistic things, but I guess you just have to overlook this. Also, as it has been pointed out the whole show is a ripoff, but a well-done one. Oh well, I'll continue to download the episodes and watch them, but I'm not proud of myself for doing so.
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Surprised I haven't seen anyone make this suggestion, especially based off of tonight's episode...if I remember correctly Ando was in the New York Peter explosion flashes...
But more so the gun tonight and the car not getting hit and some things with the woman last week leads me to make the most obvious of conclusions
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Did anyone else notice that the gun Isaac was going to use on Peter was the same gun that Hiro found in Isaacs' apartment in the ep when he found him 'Sylarized'. Isaac will be the series regular that gets dead march 5th IMO.
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Stana looked absolutely gorgeous. And that accent...DAYUM, what a woman.
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Not really, I think it's funny though that he's still reffered to as HRG in the closed captioning though. Do we really know if 'Jack' is is his name?
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No one else has mentioned it but after he got shot in the arm the next scene we don't see Ando with his Members Only Jacket. Sad :-( That jacket was teh cool. [snide snickering] mah har har
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as Darth pointed out, it was Nikki-free. But we got Geico Caveman on a vendetta with Riley's wife, Peter's rescue of his InvisJedi Master, Amazon Woman gunplay, and heck, Mohinder's not even half bad when teamed up and given something to do. Now Matt just needs to figure out that the baby his wife is carrying is his ex-partner's and make her disappear.
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I got a 143 (don't ask, I have no idea what happened) and a 215. BUUUUT the scoring cap for our league is 205. 205 + 143 = 348. 348 / 2 = 174. you actually called it exactly. very weird! and I was wrong, we were actually playing the team we were tied for the lead with, and we split the games. oh well.I liked this episode, I was curious to see where things were gonna go with Claire and HRG, and I was truly surprised when the other heroes showed up in their house. gotta say, though. as soon as Isaac starting swinging the gun around at invisiPeter, I knew Simone was gonna walk in and get it. oh well, she's done with anyway, and the last thing this show needs is a love triangle...unless it's Hiro and Ando tag-teaming Marilyn Monroe on a pile of awesome...
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Out of the blue he pulled it against Isaac.
Here is an idea if Peter can absorb others powers with minimal conatct then everytime he walks down the street and encounters even a minor mutant he has their abilities. Makes one wonder what else they will pull out, like say healing others.
Simone is NOT REALLY dead. She may be comic book dead. But she was in Peters vision as was Isaac.
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Sylar only exhibited telekinesis until HRG tried to study him. ONLY after that could he really steal others abilities with the first being Zane's.
He did not use Eden's voice on Claires mom, she had a concussion or what looks now as the hematoma.
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"Chrth may be the better hand to talk about things like this" -- I've stopped conjecturing on the timeline thing with Heroes. The writers have gotten inconsistent, probably for the conveniences of plot. While not ridiculously so, it's hard to justify tracking the changes if there's no guarantee they'll maintain consistency.
BadMrWonka: Heh. :)
While I'm sure there's going to be a Peter versus Sylar fight, I do have to say I don't think the show can kill off Sylar. Let's face it: who else is going to be a bad guy? There's the League of Neutral/Pulp Faction, but they can't be a prime antagonist for a long arc; ditto Linchpin, unless we're about to learn he has advanced super powers as well; and of course I'm sure we'll have the anti-Heroes storyline, but again, I think they need to keep Sylar around.
All: Peter didn't have an Isaac-esque vision. There were multiple elements that indicated it was not literal: Claire in her Cheerleader's Outfit, Parkman in his Police Uniform. I actually don't expect Hiro/Ando or Nikki/DL/Micah to be in New York City during the season finale. But we'll see. -
It was Hiro.
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I agree. Peter will pull a Hiro and go back in time and save her. Also, Peter has not gone to the dark side. Give him a break. He has been denegrated and scorned all his life by his family and now he has come in to his own. He's mad as hell and is not going to take it any more. He's not gone evil.
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Mohinder will put two and two together with Sylar's headaches. But I will have to say the writers have painted themselves into a corner with his character. What value is he adding to this process? The dynamic has moved way beyond getting the heros DNA and studying them. HGR's organization has been doing that for years. Mohinder is irrelevant.
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And it's no coincidence that Nikki/Jessica was nowhere to be seen. She just drags it to a stop, doesn't she. Is it just me, or has the writing improved 10x over on this show since the premiere ? It is damn tight right now. Every scene tonight was significant and powerful. We're more than halfway through the season and I still don't know if HRG is a good guy or a bad guy. And Peter is veering off into insane territory (though we know he stays a good guy, since "empathizing" with people is how he absorbs his powers). I can't believe how good this show has gotten - the perfect blend of surprising twists and actual plot momentum, made all the more powerful by the foreshadowing of what's to come (ie, The Blast tm). Sorry ..... I think I'm getting fanboy juice all over this talkback.
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A mediocre fantasy series but one of the plot devices is that people can use magic to collect "attributes" from others, to make themselves more powerful. Ie, you could be a king whose vassal offers you his "agility", rendering you twice as agile, but your vassal a clumsy oaf. Couldn't help but think that is similar to the Peter or Sylar ability to consume others powers. In that series, however, it was known that if you collected enough attributes, you would for all intents and purposes be indestructable.
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chip theft scam. The gaming commission dude was in on it.
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Jack Kirby was an idea man who created dozens of brilliant concepts, as did Ditko, but it was Stan who honed those ideas and gave them a soul. Case in point -- the Silver Surfer, which was originally just a cool-looking guy Jack threw in to FF to liven up the panels. But it was Stan, with John Buscema, that defined him as a character in the original SILVER SURFER #1-18. Or was Jack Kirby responsible for those issues as well?
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She should be sorry. Hiro vs Peter waoooooooooonoooooooooooch!
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nonetheless he seemed out of character in this ep. Lokks like they're trying to turn him into a badass overnight.
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I've been excited for this show the whole way through. Since they never show repeats, we don't know if they stand up on their own or not, and there's times in the past where I've gotten generally bored with some of the stories and stuff. But I just have to admit, I find Hiro totally annoying now. You have all this fairly mature stuff going on, and then there's Hiro running around talking about his "mission" and finding that stupid goddamn sword. I'm not saying I want him killed off, but if they could stop treating him like the cutesy comic relief, I'd appreciate it.
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The producers have said IIRC that they want each season to be almost a complete story, so Sylar might well not make it, with a new villain for S2.
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but Marvel had its fair share of crappy characters: stilt-man, porcupine...
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...but it seems to me you're playing with Hume's utensil.
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I'm guessing Monty Python? Am I close?
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I also thought it was very cool when Peter tossed Inviso Man over the ledge just like he had done to him. Too bad he was too stunned to appreciate the irony. That whole sequence was tight, tight!
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It's RICHARD (lfgcomic.com, you'll want to start at the beginning with the comic, you'll come across the Fork of Truth eventually)
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Mary Jo Bennefuoco.When's she gonna start flipping a double-sided coin?
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but no way was he as bad as Bob Kane.
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...overthinking it as usual, chrth. I'm completely unfamiliar with RICHARD. I'll have to check that out.
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Think about it, they even gave him the badass all black trench coat mafia look for this episode. I guess they're not much for subtlety, lol. Anyway, I just recently got on the bandwagon and caught up on all the eps, one ep. a day for the last few weeks. I'm sold: fantastic series.
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Yes, I am ashamed to admit that I watched the horrible, totally fake "Who Wants To Be A Super Hero" on Sci Fi last summer. Stan was truly wretched. BUT the good part is that the super-hearing lady also appeared on that abortion. She was one of the "Convicts" the super-heroes had to deal with. Cell Phone Girl was supposed to hug her or something like that, and the "tough ex-con" wouldn't let her. God, that show was unbelievably wretched, and there was never a comic book or TV movie with Flashback, the original winner, yet Season 2 had auditions here in LA last weekend.
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Focusing on Peter? Yawn. Making him super-powerful? Double Yawn. Making the show even more complicated without resolving any of the original storylines (well, they did save the cheerleader, so I give them that)? Strike 3, but I'm still watching. And it's still good, if not AS good. Just getting bored with pretty much all the characters' dangling storylines.
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was supposedly an inmate, not an ex-con. That wouldn't make any sense.
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I only ask because there was a *Doctor Who* convention in Los Angeles last weekend and Eric Roberts was to be a guest. I wonder if anyone there asked him about *Heroes* and whether he'd be interested in reprising the role of The Master in *Doctor Who*... That would be AICN Coax worthy...
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I understand tormenting characters, establishing pathos and earning our sympathy. But where are the 'Heroes'? Each of them has committed at least one crime. Earlier episodes included heroics here and there, but there has been a steady decline toward the dark side since returning from hiatus. I mean -- Matt and Hiro stealing? Never woulda thunk it two months ago.OBTW, happy new year, everybody!
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Eric Roberts was easily the worst thing about the 1996 TV Movie. Besides, if you believe the rumors, John Simm from LIFE ON MARS already has the role lined up after Sir Derek Jacoby regenerates into him in the Series 3 finale.
Again, IF you believe the rumors...
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...you know as well as I do that any writer on this show has been subjected to at least 20 years of "heroes" (short for "superheroes") who blur the line between right and wrong on a regular basis. How often has SPidey been called a villain? Both Batman and Daredevil commit crimes regularly in their vigilante-style pursuit of harder, more dangerous (to civilian) criminals. Gambit has stolen. Wolverine has killed. Hasn't the entire Justice League pretty much conspired to wipe out people's memories (which would definitely be a crime if anyone knew about it). I guess my point is, you have a very strict and very dated definition of the term "hero," which neither the writers nor a lot of folks reading hte talkback share.
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While it doesn't have to be black and white, the 'Heroes' really need to start acting like ones. Then again, they have just discovered their powers and there will be growing pains. It really bothered me that Matt resorted to stealing those diamonds. With Hiro, I think he got all caught up in his 'mission' and 'hero' thing and thought stealing the sword justified the saving of the world. He did refuse to steal the bag of chips though, so he's making progress.
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It isn't nice to poke fun at Val Kilmer's family.
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Roberts does well with whatever material is presented to him. The best line of The Master's in the TVM was adlibbed by Roberts himself because of what he had known of The Master's speech patterns from back in the 70s when Delgado played the role...and when Roberts had watched the series on tv. And yes, there are fans like me that want to see the man return to the role. Plus, if you think Roberts was "worse" than Ainley in the role before him, then you seriously need your head examined. And that would be for a second checkup since you should have booked a checkup after seriously suggesting that David Tennant would be better than Christopher "Claud" Eccleston as The Joker. Then again, both would pwn Heath Ledger in the role. That right there was such a stupid casting decision that it was worthy of Bryan Singer and a mountain of coke.
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That leads me to an idea...when are they going to cast Cancer Man/Smoking Cigarette Man/Mulder's DNADaddy in this series? Which leads me to believe that we also need some crazy Gary Busey action in this show with vision quest powers, and maybe some Gil Gerard or Lee Majors cameos.
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Geico Counter. Was his day job ever revealed before he started browning lawns? If he was an accountant, I'll drown myself in piss and laughter!
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You're right, guys -- We create Heroes in our likeness. Makes them more human, identifiable, etc. I get that. Certainly not saying I want a Captain Marvel boyscout on the show.It'd just be nice to have a little throwaway here and there; like the fireman barbecue, P. Diddy Pryde pileup, or attack of the Mazinger clones (note, all of which happened earlier on in the series).
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Is it me, or were they poking fun at their own in-show advertising? It's nice to see not every show takes itself too seriously.
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messi: you, me, over in the @$$holes TB, pronto. We need to have a little chat..
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Come to think of it, so is The Owl (as in weak). No wonder Daredevil traded that tool in for the Blingpin.
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What't the theory on Sylar? My guess (unless it's already been established) is that he doesn't actually have ANY powers naturally: he just finds out all he needs to from Suresh Sr and does away with him, stealing his list and acquiring the powers unnaturally from tapping into the brain. I know there was an episode where we see his origin as a bad guy, but did he actually have telekinesis at first? I'd guess that every single one of his powers has been stolen once he figured out how to do it from Suresh. As such, anyone can do it, but Sylar is the only one who knows how. But once he figures out what Peter can do, he'll realise that by killing Peter, he wont need to kill anyone else. That would be my guess anyway.Also, has Peter actually met Hiro yet? If not, he won't be doing any time manipulation, but as engaged as I am, I forget a lot of things evidently.
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A major character dies soon... anybody else think last night showed how useless Isaac is? I like the concept of drawing the future, but if that's all he's goign to be good for, I think his character is on the way out. For sure NOT dying: Sylar, Peter, Hiro, Claire. Beyond that, I have no idea, but my money is on Isaac. Any thoughts?
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Hiro and Peter met very early on when Hiro came to Peter with a message from the future: "Save the cheerleader, save the world."
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I'm absent minded tonight, yeah that was a significant moment.
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She's DEAD. No saving by Peter. Actress cried real tears. That said, she's back for at least two episodes, including the finale. Just like in real comics.
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I think he was confused stealing the diamonds. Too much happening too fast, plus he heard the thoughts of his ex-colleague ripping him and that made him think even less clearly. Not to say that it hasn't occurred to me that he could go dark. I hope not, beside the cheerleader he's one of my favorite characters because he's just kind of this married slob and his wife is kind of a chunky (for TV) harpy. I'd be after that bloody HRG guy, too, if I was him, too.*****The cheerleader's storyline is by far the best. It's more complex and packs MUCH MORE emotional punch than any of the other story lines and I can hardly wait to see what happens next week with the confrontation at their house. I hope Matt can hear HRG's mind because it doesn't look like the Haitian will be around.*****Hiro used to be my favorite plot line, but yeah, he's kind of lost something. Good to see "Dauber" from "Coach" working again. Dauber gotta eat. Oops, sorry.*****I agree with many here in that I was screaming at my TV screen to Mohinder about how stupid he was. I'm getting tired of Sylar. I'm glad we're getting some closure there by the end of the season.*****Agree that it was good that there was no Nikki and family this week.*****The picked the right person to kill. Unfortunately, they will probably bring her back.
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From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
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mean Hero's get an unofficial nod from Marvel to mirror a few of their most famous story lines. The first thing I thought when I saw Peter freaking out on Issac looking very powerful using all of his powers was.. uhm.. Dark Phoenix? After I saw Simone die I could really see it. What if it isn't Sylar that lops off Issac's dome but Peter? The question is if Peter does do the Dark Phoenix thing, who would have the power to stop him? None of our heroes have the power to stop him with the exception of Sylar. Wouldn't that be crazy..
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He's been working for a long time as the voice of Patrick on Spongebob Squarepants. Gotta love that cushy voice work!
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...is his ability to make me like his damned character! I swear, he was my least favorite character at the start of the show. Now he's second only to Hiro in my book in that he USES his powers! None of that "should I, shouldn't I" crap...he just does!
And I don't believe he'll turn dark, just because one of the show's themes is what people do when power is thrust upon them. Sylar is the opposite of Peter in that respect. They both believed they were meant for better, bigger things. It's just that Peter was predisposed to helping people (nurse) and Sylar became a serial killer. People thinking that Peter will turn into a Sylar are saying something about how people, given the chance at power, will abuse it. Mainly because that's what they see everyday. Peter should be made of sterner stuff.
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I too was miffed after the first several episodes when it appeared that her arc was going nowhere. However, I'm way digging on the Jessica character.So to you Niki/Jessica haters, where exactly does your problem lie? My hunch isn't that it is the Jessica personality that's turning you off. Not when she is dominant, that is. I'm suspecting that if you dislike what Ali Larter is bringing to the show, it is because you either dislike the incessant whining of the Niki personality or you dislike the dead-end family dynamic with Micah and DL. Let's admit, when Jessica is in charge, shit happens.
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I'm not sure why others are miffed or have a problem with Niki/Jessica but for me, it's because I'm not sure how this story fits in with the rest of the series. Right now it just seems that they have powers but there doesn't seem to be any sort of involvement with Mohinder, Sylar, and HRG. There's that Linderman angle where she's working for him, but I think people are frustrated at what might seem like a bad investment in a character or angle in the series.
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It's true--as a sometimes "Jessica hater" it's the family baggage that does me in. I don't think introducing her husband has done anything for the character or the show. It made her less intruiging. I do think if we knew a little bit more about the specifics of her backstory it would help, too. I don't always explicitly want to know what's going on with a character (like HRG is so intruiging because we don't know what's going on with him), but in her case I think it would help. I'm not sure why. Maybe because she has (or appears to have) such a long relationship with her alter ego and I feel more cheated that it's not being revealed as much as I would like.
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...by long relationship I don't mean explicitly as an alter ego but as a sister or dead sister or whatever...
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I don't know if anyone picked up on this. But I believe that the motel Syler and Mohinder was staying at was the Bates Motel. Cool setting if it was.
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Never. I think Peter was just pissed off as he felt the only real chance he had of not blowing up was invisible man and stupid Isaac went and told HRG man! Anyways, peter is by far my favourite character, hiro is amusing and fun but Peter is just badass and i honestly feel he'll lead all the other heroes! I'm hoping he won't die as he is one of the more likeable characters IMHO!
Also, Sylar just gets better and better as a baddie, i totally buy his character! However i do feel his character has to die as to have the same baddie season after season in Heroes i just don't think will work!
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Ok, even though they didn't actually say it out loud, if you watch the "six months ago" episode with Sylar, you'll see that he was genuinely distressed that he had no powers. He was still upset about it when he was by himself, and as we haven't seen him with a schizoid personality, I think we can accept that through the "language of film" he is being honest with us, the audience, and that he in fact had no powers that he knew about. If he already had telekinesis, it would be exceptionally poor writing to have the first superpower to walk through his door also be Telekinesis, since there are NO DUPLICATED POWERS SHOWN ON THE SHOW YET. The various scenes showing the progression of 1) Sylar meets Chandra, and is unable to display powers, 2) Sylar mopes about his lack of specialness, 3) a guy with TK shows up, and Sylar sees that he has powers, 4) Sylar goes back to Chandra, and demonstrates that he has TK, 5) the original TK guy is dead. This is a storytelling device that shows that Sylar TOOK the TK power from the guy. It is not ambiguous at all. We also know that he has killed other people, who's powers we do not know about at this point. You can explain any other weird stuff that goes on with him as being "Oh, it must be some other powers that he's collected". If you read the companion online graphic novel bits at heroes dot nbc dot com, you will get more confirmation that he took powers even before he initially met and was captured by HRG (it shows him watching Charlie, and then learning how to drive a semi-truck by reading through the manual once). Various sources (which unfortunately I can't remember now, otherwise I'd cite them... can anybody help with these?) have shown that Eden DID in fact kill herself before Sylar could extract her power, so he does NOT have that one. Yes, he's been getting Deep Voice Syndrome (as has Peter), but I'm wondering if that is some other facet of his power, or something that the FX department is doing in a not-so-subtle attempt to show his increasing menace when he's about to do some serious killin', because if he is in fact commanding them to do something, why would he start commanding them and instead of waiting for them to act out his wishes, smash them against a wall with TK? Whew. Ok, and then off the topic of Sylar, HRG had plenty of time to get back to Texas, considering Matt/Ted/WirelessGal had to get from L.A. to Texas themselves. Also, though they're building us up to this whole idea of it being either Peter, Sylar, or Ted who explode, I REALLY hope that it's been a huge red herring and they through a fat-ass twist at us at the last moment. I like the idea somebody threw out a little earlier about Peter turning bad and Sylar being the one who has to stop him, even though I'm guessing it ain't too likely. Mohinder keeps talking about wanting to "cure" the heroes, so he could easily turn out to be a bad guy from the heroes' point of view, if he becomes especially insistant. I think the past several episodes of the heroes learning more about their powers, gaining control over them, and battling more with moral ambiguity is right in line with your time-tested Hero's Journey. So it's all lookin' good to me! Looking forward to next week's episode! Woo!
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i guess most of you must fast forward the Mohinder moments, but he said something crucial talking to sylar, hes gonna create a inhibitor. hrg is gonna hunt heroes and stop their powers. this will also limit peters powere in the terms of him becoming all powerful, i would assume that the twist will be that he cannot use the same powers as another hero when he is their vicinity.
i've disliked nikki/jessica from the begining, but i must admit that last weeks epsiode they did a stellar job in makinng her a bad ass assain. if they can keep that up then she'll come to the forefront.
i also didnt particular like peter in the bgining, and i thought he was a weak character, but he's come right to the top of the favourite heroes.
im also hoping for a cgi smackdown of sylar and peter, it's just got to happen.
whos gonna die? im hoping issac, whast the point of spending an hour doing a painting of peter standing behind you, only to turn around after you've finished it and see him there!
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is instinctively understanding how things work. That's how he was able to know that Surech Sr's watch was slow when they first met. It's also how he worked out how to get other people's powers. Telekenesis is just one of the powers he's stolen (abeit the most useful one). He now has super hearing; melting things; memory; freezing and telekenesis. Any other's that I've missed?
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Sylar learning to drive by reading the manual could have been from the timeline where Hero didn't save the coffee shop girl, so he may not actually have that power anymore. I also tend to think that his telekenisis and his flight are two different powers. I'm not sure he took the TK, but I think he took someone's ability to fly.
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even though I don't enjoy Nikki or her son. I think her husband could be good if he was in a different situation. I think the hits at Matt turning bad will come true when he realizes his wife is pregnant with someone else's child.
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Sylar kills her regardless of timeline.
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Future Hiro meets Peter on a subway train and tells him to save the cheerleader, right? Hiro also mentions that Peter looks different without the "scar". What scar? Peter can now heal himself. How can he get scarred?
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Medically speaking, scars are not the result of the injuring process; they're the result of the healing process. Now, Claire seems to heal fast enough (or she concentrates hard enough) that her healing is super-rapid enough that there is no scarring. However, if Peter was to be more lazy about his healing, he might simply close the wound and let it finish the job naturally, in which case he could very well have a scar.
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I respect your opinions here, but I would honestly love to know how you apparently escaped from Omega's anti-matter universe because your reasoning concerning certain aspects of DOCTOR WHO is pretty opposite to the majority of Whovians worldwide. Roberts is pretty well reviled for his work in the 1996 TV movie, as well as his "acting" (if such a term can be used in association with Eric Roberts) in general.
And yeah, I think a Joker in his thirties, lean, with an angular face and crazed eyes would certainly be preferable to a Joker that's in his forties, with a BOOMING VOICE, big mug-handle ears, and no upper lip when he grins. But I guess that's just me.
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I mean, I'm sorry I've only been a Surfer fan for over 25 years and have all the FF and SILVER SURFER MASTERWORKS volumes, the entire 140+ issue run from the 80s & 90s, the Lee/Moebius mini-series, the Lee/Buscema & Lee/Pollard graphic novels, the craptastic Chariton/Weiss 14-issue series, the SILVER SURFER/WARLOCK mini-series, the SILVER SURFER/SUPERMAN one-shot, the ULTIMATE GALACTUS trilogy by Warren Ellis, the entire SILVER SURFER animated series on videotape and any number of other appearances throughout the 616 and whatnot.
So since I know "jack-shit" about the Surfer and comics, please enlighten me as to what I'm missing. And please keep using words of one or two syllables so that my feeble mind may grasp them.
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"something big better happen soon!"
im sure your girlfriend says that every time u have sex...
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but someone here once named Nikki's alter-ego PMSicca, and I like that better than Nikkissica.
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Sylar did in fact kill Wiki woman. He says so in last weeks version of the online comic, where he reads the truck driver manual and is then able to drive the truck. "Soon after I killed her, I don't know, I just started remembering things."
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parallels.
As for eating brains for power...that's "Deadhead", also from Wild Cards.
I was all "oh no they didn't!" when they had the gall to refer to their powers coming from a virus.
And the "exotic doctor who wants to help" is totally Tachyon.
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It's interesting to still see more whining from the Kirby, Ditko, and/or DC camps about what a monster Stan is. Stan was a major factor in making Marvel and its characters what they are today, whether anyone wants to believe it or not. Read Beau Smith's article in this month's Comics Buyers Guide, and you'll be clued in on a big part the genius of Stan: He made all of us Marvel Zombies feel like we were part of an exclusive yet accessible, ultra-cool club. Of course Ditko and Kirby and Romita and Heck and Colan and Roy Thomas, etc., deserve lots of credit, but Stan has ALWAYS been the face of Marvel. He put himself out there, constantly, and kept his name (and thus, Marvel's name) out there. DC fans have always been jealous that there never was a Stan Lee at DC - One Guy who took on the face of the company. Lots of talented creators, yes, but ask your average person on the street to name one DC comics creator, and chances are you'd get a blank stare; ask the same question about Marvel, and just about everyone would say "Stan Lee." Can't wait to see the MAN at the NY Con this weekend - it's gonna be a madhouse!
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I don't think that sort of scar would change Peter enough for Hiro to say he looks different. I agree about your other point though. I've long suspected that Peter got his dreaming power from Simone's dad (who also dreamed about Peter flying)-the dying guy that Peter used to sit with (especially if you remember the first scene of the first ep, Peter was daydreaming about flying while sitting next to the guy's bed).
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Tell that to Marv Wolfman, J. Michael Stracynski, Mark Waid and others who used to rock once upon a time but who are now mere shells of their former greatness. I mean, when was the last time Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, or Billy Joel wrote a solid hit song? Dude, it HAPPENS.
And since you were obviously working at Marvel in '60s, please tell us who wrote ALL those issues that had Stan's name on them? Roy Thomas? Sure, Stan's artists helped out with plotting & character creation and certainly deserve their fair share of credit, but there's no way they wrote every bit of dialogue for Stan to rubber-stamp his name on.
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Peter flying was super cool. I just hope his Yoda will stick with him.
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Who knew Ali Larter had this kind of acting ability in her? I think a lot of people are just tired of the non-resolution, or even non-development, of Niki/Jessica, and the whining is a turn off. I can relate to that, and I see Sylar is suffering the same thing...getting to be a very repetititious character.
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...quote, as I was just having a discussion with someone the other night about why I hated the prequels, especially ROTS, so much. Sure, I've got some issues with the dialogue and plot decisions George made, and the overall pacing of the three films, but the thing that gets me most...the thing that made all three absolutely irredeemable for me...was Hayden's inability to emote without telling us exactly what his character was supposed to be thinking or feeling. "I am very angry now!" or "You make me feel funny in my pants." or "I have to poo." His dialogue really wasn't any better than that at any point in the trilogy. And he delivered it all like the untalented kissass junior high school player who gets the plum part because his homeroom teacher thinks he's cute. And ROTS was so close to being a decent movie. But his performance is so lousy that even with an Avid editor and a talented impressionist to change up some of the dialogue, I don't know that I could fix it. Anyway, Peter on Heroes hasn't been much better than Hayden, but last episode was an exception. He showed me something I didn't realize he had. It'd be a shame if they were planning to kill him off just as he's becoming compelling.
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Kinda sad to see her go. But good to see the promo weren't BS this time.
Gotta say i'm intrigued by how the seen with Matt, HRG, and Claire develops. Especially since Claire at this point is likely to shoot HRG himself if he doesn't start talking.
I get people being disturbed by Matt stealing the diamonds. But I'm totally behind getting some answers from Bennet.
Especially since away from the Haitian all Matt has to do is ask questions and listen as HRG involuntarily thinks the answers.
Cool seeing Stan Lee, but I don't recall him ever being near Sylar. I did see him pick Hiro up at the end.
I hope we haven't seen the last of Claude, he's just too damn cool.
Speaking of pretty cool seeing Peter go ritgheously bad ass on Isaac after Isaac ratted him and Claude to the bad guys and screwed up his training.
I think Peter was doing the scary Sylar voice while using the telekenisis he aborbed from Sylar, not a sonic boom. Syalar used the same scary voice when he killed Ears.
By the way I do get Isaac's rational for rattig Peter out but wasn't Isaac taking an awfully big chance that shooting Peter wouldn't be the thing that made him go nuclear, which would've killed him, Simone, and most of New York.
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George casting a child as Anikin.(Little Orphan Ani), Then I a saw Hayden Christensen in Attack of the Clones, and I'm like, wow, maybe they should've the kid.
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In both the Kring interview on this site and a TV Guide issue a few weeks back it is confirmed that Eden did indeed off herself before Sylar had the chance to learn her power.There is the chance that the show has employed use of the voice simply for affect. However, if it is indeed an actual ability, then in order for both Peter and Sylar to each display use of the voice ability, Sylar must have attained it prior to gunning for Claire in TX. Else, how could Peter have picked it up unless from yet another character with the same ability besides Eden? Apart from Peter and Sylar, the show has been consistent in keeping powers exclusive.My hunch is it's just something used for affect.
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Have you ever read Kirby's dialog without Stan?*****'Nuff said.
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Simone, according to today's "Ask Ausiello," IS the death, but she doesn't die until the March 5th episode. And WHERE IS THE LOST TALKBACK!?!
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Eric Roberts is an Academy Award Nominated Actor before they started giving away awards to such actresses for shedding clothing. By far, he is the most talented actor to have ever portrayed The Master. You fault him for the work he turned in that was committed to paper by the screenwriter. If you actually watched him in any other menacing role (like from CSI Miami) you'd have a better appreciation of the guy's range and what he could do in a Moffat penned script. Unfortunately, like many other Whovians (especially the knee-jerk ones who scream "Americanisation" at the TVM), you ignore this little fact to base your conclusions on. Point is, with proper writing, he'd be a kick-ass Master just as Paul McGann was a kick-ass Doctor who got shorted by Fox/BBC and later by RTD to go with his handpicked favorites for the role. If my opinion is out-of-step with the rest of Whodom, so be it because quite frankly, there's a lot of wankers in the fanbase (especially online) as evidenced by many of the opinions posted on OG. Roberts will kick-ass on *Heroes* just as he would on *NewWho* if the production team were less narrow-minded.
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...but after seeing him on WITCHBLADE & LAW & ORDER: SVU, and hearing his stilted vocal work on JUSTICE LEAGUE, I honestly don't see it happening. Paul McGann WAS a kickass Doctor, though.
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When Peter stopped the tazer darts in mid-air, we are led to believe that it is just the same TK power he used to stop Claude's staff before it flattened his face. But WAS it Telekinesis? If you watch it again, the sound of the tazer darts flinging to him slowed down as if winding down to a halt. They stopped in mid-air, frozen as if time stopped for those darts. The staff was vibrating in mid-air as if being held up by invisible hands, not so with the darts.
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This episode was okay. The Mohinder/Sylar pairing, however, is the stupidest thing this show's done. Sylar isn't even scary any more. I can't wait for him to grow a mustache and twirl it. "What's that sound in your heart?" "MURDER." Somebody actually wrote that shit? They should immediately be fired. Other than that, the ep. was interesting. I do think that someone else comes in and writes the final five minutes of every episode. The cliffhangers rock. The episodes themselves are meh.
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...there are certainly others in the comics industry far more deserving of your loathing. Stan is a huckster, always has been, but that's part of what makes him an icon to a lot of fans. He's like the Bill Shatner of the Marvel Universe...cheesy and corny as hell, a little too self-pimping at times, but ultimately the guy you most want to hang out with.
You keep telling me to do "research," even though all the incidents you mention are fairly widely known. The thing is, not many people really care all that much if Stan doesn't reference Jack Kirby in every single interview for the FF movie, or doesn't mention Steve Ditko when talking about Doctor Octopus's creation on the SPIDER-MAN 2 DVD. Should he? Probably, but Stan knows there's no real way he can rewrite history and make himself the sole creator of all those characters because too much has been documented over the years, many times by Stan himself in articles or interviews.
If anything, you should directing your ire at Marvel for not including the words "Created by Stan Lee & Jack Kirby" or "Created by Stan Lee & Steve Ditko" in most of their comics and films. DC's just as guilty, though, which is why they didn't include "Created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster" in Superman comics and films until a lawsuit forced them to do so.
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Jeph Loeb did a great job writing this episode. Very tightly written, lots of action, drama, and good payoffs. Well done.*****I am starting to like Mohinder better. He is idealistic and perhaps a bit naive, but he does need to smarten up. If he realistically survives Sylar, he might mature a bit as a character. His potential to develop an inhibitor could make him very powerful, and his obvious morals could make him the anti-HRG.****Sylar keeps getting better and better as a villain. He is obviously being written as a classic sociopath/serial killer who can not resist killing and displaying his power, even if it might expose him, as his killing Hearing Woman migtht have. Sylar is scary, and a great villain.****My guess on Peter's scar: Sylar scars him with his melting powers in their showdown. Claire's regeneration powers can not properly heal from another superpower like the Melting Power.*****
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Isn't it strange that Peter's dream had both Simone and Andro in it and both are not out, Andro told to go home by Hiro, Simone shot by Issac. Doesn't it seem that Peter's outburst in New York was more his temper getting out of control and his hurting those he cares for is more a warning than anything else. Also, finally! Someone taking the fight directly to HRG's home with Claire there. Is she going to help him or assist Matt and the others?
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Cast Paul McGann as the hitman assigned by Bennett to terminate Claude. Now that would rock!
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...the hitman from circa 15 years prior...
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ALL MY BIRTHDAYS AND LUCKY NUMBERS CAME UP IN THAT SHOW MONDAY. IM PLAYING THE LOTTERY NONSTOP. CASE 7? 25 DOLLARS! 725 IS MY BIRTHDAY! CASE 21? 1 DOLLAR! 121 IS MY LUCKY NUMBER! IM TELLING YOU THAT BANKER IS THE DEVIL!
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...not for a long time at least. Heroes could run for at least five seasons. 'Unexpected' was another fine episode in a tv series that makes this Brit want to weep in shame at the standard of our own programming. I'm hooked.
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Gary Coleman. 'Nuff said. If anyone else figured it out, you can collect your famous No-Prize from Stan "The Man" Lee himself.
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If Hiro can reverse an event, so can Peter Petrelli. Simone might not be all that dead yet.
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The people with powers are simply evolving naturally. Those that are related are more likely to have it because a parent was probably a carrier of the "defect" (for lack of a better word) if not a hero themselves.
The injections are solely for a radioactive trace for the League of Neutral/Pulp Faction to keep tabs on the injectees. It does not give anyone powers.
Chandra Sureesh was able to track "Heroes" down because they had donated blood to the Human Genome Project and he was using that database to search for ... whatever it is he found that indicates the presence of an anomaly. This is an interesting development because 1) we're not limited to 36 heroes, and 2) I was wondering how he was finding these people in the first place. For awhile there I was thinking he was via pennies. -
Wasn't Sylar's original power some kind of clockwork ability to understand things? And the absorbing of people's power derives from that?
Good call Dreadpirate on the dream power. I had assumed Peter got that from Isaac. It never quite made sense to me.
I'm not sure how they can keep Peter in the show for long with those abilities. I can see them killing him off in the finale to establish the premise of "Heroes."
This show has definitely learned some lessons from Lost. The pacing is great and it seems they're conscious about making the same mistakes. Hopefully Lost can take a lesson from Heroes next season. -
Pre-dates his meeting Isaac. He had visions about Nathan's car crash.
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I thought the dream power came from the old guy that died, that Peter took care of when he was a nurse. Now someone explain to me why I'm wrong!
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So he wouldn't have been assigned to Simone's Dad yet.
I too am curious if Mama Petrelli has a power.
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