Animation and Anime
TMNT orders up another review-pie with peanut butter, anchovies and pickles!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I want this to rock so hard. I'm such a geek for the Ninja Turtles. Here's a review from an early screening. The movie's a month away from release now, but I'm sure there might still be some tweaks to be made, so keep that in mind... even though the review is very favorable. Enjoy... little to no spoilers below!
Aintitcool Gang, I have been reading your site for many years and really enjoy the site. This is the first time I have ever wrote a review for a movie and the first time I have written to Aintitcool.com so bear with me as I write my sonnet for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the movie. I attended a sneak preview of TMNT’s last night at a mega theatre in Kansas City. The line to see the movie was impressive; half of the people that were in line did not get to see the movie and as the movie theatre was filling up the persons in charge of the movie were gathering different age groups to fill the remaining seats, as I can imagine to fulfill some requirements from the studio execs to gather demographic data. Overall the theatre was a mix of teenage ages (14-18) to young adults (22-29). The movie was a great introduction to new TMNT fans and also played a very nice homage to old geezers like me that grew up with the turtles. I will break down my review in two parts, animation and story, as I feel these are two main aspects that one would see this film. Animation- The animation was top notch. The human characters looked like the human characters of Monster House. The detail on them was simple but very pleasing to look at. The turtle animation was brilliant; to me the animators used a mix of the Turtles from the graphic comics and from the cartoon series. The turtles movements and fight scenes looked great and there were lots of life to the characters as they drew there weapons and interacted with other characters. The best aspect of the animation for me was the emotion that the turtles possessed, there was one scene towards the end with Leonardo and Raphael that stood out to be very passionate and engrossing. Story- The story started off a bit slow, as the writers told the story of an established TMNT team that have been in place for awhile, there was a reference to the defeat of Shredder, but the only staple from the original Turtle franchise was the inclusion of Casey Jones, April Oneal, Splinter and of course the turtles. The story was very fluid after the initial setup of drama that existed between the turtles. The theme was also done very well and was mostly focused on teamwork and the importance of family. I would recommend this for younger kids, most of the scenes that included fighting had over exaggerated monsters that sometimes resulted in a comedic capture or scene. I hope that if another movie is made the writers will include shredder as the main villain and or include Rocksteady, Bebop and Krang. Overall- I really enjoyed this movie. I didn’t know what to expect at first but I was very pleased with the animation, story, and pace of the movie. If you are a turtle fan I believe you will be in for a treat after the scarring events of the turtles live action movie featuring vanilla ice, and the downfall that was the sequels that left turtle fans hanging up there multi colored bandanas. If you use this, then you may refer to me as BLUESQUIG.
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Feb. 16, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST
I'm ready for a mediocre movie.
Feb. 16, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST
but I still liked the costumed version better, btw first :D
Feb. 16, 2007, 6:12 p.m. CST
Does "I can't quit you!" get said? ;)<p> Nice review - thanks. Our family is pretty excited about how this looks.
Feb. 16, 2007, 6:21 p.m. CST
by THE KNIGHT
I'm feeling pretty good today...
Feb. 16, 2007, 6:39 p.m. CST
I love watching Mr. Van Winkle(V ICE) lose his mind on VH1. I loves me some turtles.
Feb. 16, 2007, 7:05 p.m. CST
of when i was happiest. I'm OK if it's goofy and child friendly, that's how I remember it. I've read the comics, of course, but my heart forever belongs to the cartoon.
Feb. 16, 2007, 7:13 p.m. CST
I believe Shredder is scheduled to be the main villain in a sequel, should this one make $100 mil domestically.
Feb. 16, 2007, 7:43 p.m. CST
I remember when the boys would actually kill people. Ahhhh the good old days.
Feb. 16, 2007, 7:50 p.m. CST
I live in Kansas City. Fuck all happens here, and I missed this. Dammit.
Feb. 16, 2007, 7:51 p.m. CST
i know ive said it twice today but come on...anyone who "has been reading this site for a long time" doesnt write shit like this. its too nice and the fact that he mentions vanilla ice, beebop and rocksteady makes me think he's a troll thats done his research. and who the fuck is worried about the fight scenes being too violent and reassuring us theyre ok for kids? fuck off plants, and get a real fucking job
Feb. 16, 2007, 7:59 p.m. CST
I mean, one goes with the other. But I'd love to see a fully-rendered CG Krang.
Feb. 16, 2007, 9:23 p.m. CST
..gentlemen. Please go to your nearest comic book store at your earliest convenience and buy every price-deflated original series TMNT that you can get your hands on. That is all. click
Feb. 16, 2007, 9:25 p.m. CST
by Dr Gregory House
...all the turtle love. Wonder Twins powers....Activate
Feb. 16, 2007, 9:42 p.m. CST
WTF? Seriously? Anyone else bothered by the reviewer's insistence to mention an age breakdown at all -- let alone one that seems highly circumspect? (are you suggesting that college aged males avoided the movie, but those older didn't?) can you really look at a theatre full of males between the ages of 15 and 30 and even begin to break it down so clearly without looking at some sort of questionnaire?
Feb. 16, 2007, 9:45 p.m. CST
Sounds about right. No plantage here folks. This is a positive review, but one that fits in with the others I've seen.
Feb. 16, 2007, 10:31 p.m. CST
Feb. 16, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST
Was actually not called Krang. There were also a bunch of Krangs who dressed up in human skins but were studying planet earth and had a research facility in New York. Two of the Krangs came upon an injured Splinter in the sewers after he had been attacked by mousers. They then took Splinter back to their headquarters in order to heal Splinter and to study him. The turtles, had gotten into a fight with the foot clan and by coincidence came across the building, realizing the name of the building was also on the can of ooze that mutated them. They get into a fight with the Krangs, not realizing they're trying to help Splinter, but the turtles inadvertently get sent to the Krang's universe and are unable to get back until after an epic battle with a bunch of Triceratons. I said in another thread that this is the way the sequel should go if they make one. Since I think Shredder has been done already and we haven't seen Triceratons, I think it would be cool to see it onscreen. Then make the return of Shredder the basis for the third sequel which would make for a good trilogy.
Feb. 16, 2007, 11:08 p.m. CST
by Deuce Hexx
The newer cartoon series covered that storyline over the course of at least seven episodes at the end of the first season and beginning of the second, so I don't think it would likely make into a movie as soon. Could be wrong though.
Feb. 17, 2007, 12:01 a.m. CST
The "Krangs" in the original comics and in the 4 Kids toon were Utroms. (one of them was named Krang, but I believe that was an in-joke) The original toon Krang was not an Utrom, he's an evil brain from Dimension X. Yet they looked almost the same. Yes, it can be confusing. The different stories and incarnations of the Turtles are not very consistent.
Feb. 17, 2007, 12:43 a.m. CST
That the first live action movie was awesome and didn't have Vanilla Ice, and when Ice showed up in the second film, we were all only a little bit embarassed, not mortified. Not only is he a plant, he's a plant who disgraces the legacy of Jim Henson by insulting the first film. BAH!
Feb. 17, 2007, 2:19 a.m. CST
by T 1000 xp professional
I never read the TMNT comics, so thats very cool stuff about the multiple Krangs...Got a question for you guys... I just remember Jim Lee going to illustrate the turtles which was kind of a big deal at the time.... Were these the same comics that everybody is talking about, or were these a revisit afterwards?
Feb. 17, 2007, 2:22 a.m. CST
by T 1000 xp professional
who wouldn't want to see Krang in his homo-erotic manstud suit?......No, really who wouldn't?
Feb. 17, 2007, 4:52 a.m. CST
by Azlam Orlandu
I think CGI is the right format for the Turtles to be in current cinema and I'm completely open to the new characters this film is bringing to us. Surely I would love to see Shredder, Krang and Dimension X appear in future installments, but for now color me optimistic.
Feb. 17, 2007, 5:21 a.m. CST
as well as the pussified Casey Jones. And the pussified April O'Neil who's not a reporter. I mean, April not a reporter??? What the FUCK???
Feb. 17, 2007, 5:43 a.m. CST
by Azlam Orlandu
Let's throw more of a fit over a movie you haven't seen yet. Eating your words really sucks the next day.
Feb. 17, 2007, 6:38 a.m. CST
...looked like shit and are the reason why "Cars" wins awards, although "Monster House" was the better film!<br> Looking forward for TMNT anyway :)
Feb. 17, 2007, 9:58 a.m. CST
This reads like a studio synopsis. When will plants know we expect to have some level of profanity, vulgarness and rough grammar in AICN's reviews. (see Blade II review for examples)
Feb. 17, 2007, 10:54 a.m. CST
Since I'm an AICN talkbacker, my opinion means everything. I say it will suck and anyone that argues with me is clearly a fool!
Feb. 17, 2007, 11:57 a.m. CST
I hate to sound like one of those "only the original books are true TMNT" people, but iamnicksaicnsn, April wasn't a reporter in the original books. She was a computer technician, or some such, assisting Baxter Stockman when she stumbled onto his plan to use an army of Mouser robots to, er, knock down the World Trade Center. That said, Casey Jones better not be pussified, god damn it!
Feb. 17, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST
Feb. 17, 2007, 5:45 p.m. CST
by George Newman
I don't call PLANT just because a review is positive when I think it shouldn't be. I call plant when a reviewer uses cliched methods of appealing to "us"--"us" as in nerds, geeks, nostalgiac basement dwellers, etc. Such cliches include: <ul> <li>"long time reader/first time reviewer"</li> <li>"please forgive my typos, I'm just a normal guy who misspells just like you and I don't have time for spellcheck"</li> <li>"If you are a fan, you will love this movie, and even if you <em>aren't</em> I promise you will like it."</li> <li>a poor attempt at comparing the movie in question to something else with established geek appeal</li> <li>"I didn't know what to expect at first" but <strong>whew</strong> was I relieved, and so should you!</li> </ul> And FINALLY <ul> <li>A handle <strong>NOBODY</strong> recognizes or knows, and then the guy doesn't participate in the ensuing TB</li> </ul> This Talkback is a community and we recognize each other. Everyone's got a pal, or an enemy, or argument teammate, or something, and <strong>SOMEBODY</strong> who can vouch for their actual existence! I not Mr. Negativity and neither are any of the PLANT-shouters. We've just been around long enough(6 years here), most of the time anyway, to recognize a green, leafy, obvious studio potted plant. With all that said, I want this movie to rock, but i don't need no hibiscus to tell me what's up.
Feb. 17, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST
by George Newman
Does that post look like a single big fat paragraph to anyone else? Here's my post (remove any spaces from url): http://tinyurl.com /2z4wlr
Feb. 17, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST
by George Newman
I don't call PLANT just because a review is positive when I think it shouldn't be. I call plant when a reviewer uses cliched methods of appealing to "us"--"us" as in nerds, geeks, nostalgiac basement dwellers, etc. Such cliches include: 1- "long time reader/first time reviewer" 2-"please forgive my typos, I'm just a normal guy who misspells just like you and I don't have time for spellcheck" 3- "If you are a fan, you will love this movie, and even if you aren't I promise you will like it." 4- a poor attempt at comparing the movie in question to something else with established geek appeal 5- "I didn't know what to expect at first" but whew was I relieved, and so should you! And FINALLY, 6- A handle NOBODY recognizes or knows, and then the guy doesn't participate in the ensuing TB.. !!!This Talkback is a community and we recognize each other. Everyone's got a pal, or an enemy, or argument teammate, or something, and SOMEBODY who can vouch for their actual existence! I not Mr. Negativity and neither are any of the PLANT-shouters. We've just been around long enough(6 years here), most of the time anyway, to recognize a green, leafy, obvious studio potted plant. With all that said, I want this movie to rock, but i don't need no hibiscus to tell me what's up.
Feb. 18, 2007, 1:20 a.m. CST
If you watch a 90 minute movie, and you laugh, or feel a connection, or ANYTHING atleast once in that 90 minutes, I'd say the movie was worth it. It's like most of you are fuckin' university professors looking for what's WRONG in a movie, look for what's RIGHT!! and ps there's no way everyone's going to like EVERY movie, so get over yourselves, open up your mind and realize that monster house, epic movie, and even TMNT aren't geared towards YOU! they are driven towards people who like, a) animation, b) dumb shit that is kinda funny, c) the fuckin TURLES, so ya you don't like it, or think it's directed by the wrong guy (side note, whedon can't direct everything put into production), but perhaps you should think that maybe they don't WANT you to like it, if you never liked the turtles, guess what, you WONT like this fuckin movie, not because the animation is "shitty" or casey jones is a flaming homo, just because you DON'T like it! i don't like fuckin onions but im not saying that someone went wrong in creating backed onion soup! jesus get off ur high horses!
Feb. 18, 2007, 1:38 a.m. CST
scarring? i was a child during the peak of the TMNT craze, and TMNT II: TSOTO only fueled it. i will agree that the first one was better, but the caca began with Turtles In Time
Feb. 18, 2007, 4 a.m. CST
by T 1000 xp professional
pllease i hope you don't mean the videogame....honestly all i have are fond memories of that baby, even though i was probably around 8 years old...... Does anybody know the answer to the question that i asked earlier.... "I just remember Jim Lee going to illustrate the turtles which was kind of a big deal at the time.... Were these the same comics that everybody is talking about, or were these a revisit to the Tmnt universe afterwards?"
Feb. 18, 2007, 7:28 a.m. CST
by Azlam Orlandu
Feb. 18, 2007, 10:50 a.m. CST
WHAT WERE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE TEST AUDIENCE! Focus on what is important, man.
Feb. 18, 2007, 12:21 p.m. CST
Old geezers who grew up with the turtles??!? What, you mean people like me, who are still under thirty?? I was too young to attend the first movie's premiere (in Northampton, MA where I grew up), and now I'm an old fart, huh? <p> I'm not insecure about my age, but the fact that the fuckin' retarded TURTLES are already being recyclyed and repackaged to a younger generation suggests that the Ouroboros Worm of Mass Entertainment is swallowing its own tail at at unsustainable rate! ! !! <p> I think it's time the POWER RANGERS were RELAUNCHED for the NEW GENERATION who MISSED OUT on this TIMELESS TALE. Maybe with a couple of CALLBACKS so OLDTIMERS LIKE ME can enjoy reminscing about the DISTANT GOOD OLD DAYS of the original as we watch this new movie with our GREAT-GRANDKIDS.
Feb. 18, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST
I agree about the plant characteristics. the problem is, once in a while, an earnest reviewer will employ some of those devices (there is a reason plants began using them, after all). <br><br>also, the only html that works in here is < b > and < p > (without spaces, obviously).<br><br>but it's enough to segment writing, like this. (and it also works with titles, like I did with your name, but shhhh, don't tell anyone, or it'll be all the rage!)
Feb. 18, 2007, 1:11 p.m. CST
None of this new animated series "Utrom" nonsense. I want Dimension X Krang with 80's uni-sunglasses robot body, and Rocksteay, and Bebop, and rock soldiers, and neutrinos. That is all, thank you.
Feb. 18, 2007, 2:32 p.m. CST
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turds
Feb. 19, 2007, 2:29 a.m. CST
by GibsonUSA Returns
They should have just made a sequel to the live action movies, with an early scientist Baxter Stockman and the Rat King as the villian.<BR><BR> But noooooooooo, we get CG with more alien shit. Talk about being out of touch.
Feb. 19, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST
or at least probably as hinted by the director. its a shame people cant get ovet he 80's cartoon which was essentially a sanitised snooze fest aimed at 4 year olds. you would NOT want to watch it these days...although the theme tune is miles ahead of that current crap. I dunno. Im more attached to the figures and the movies these days (in a cool retrospective kind of way as is the trend) but loved the cartoon as a kid. I wont see this in theatres - I dont think I could honestly go watch this in a cinema without being embarassed as hell- so if its my age group theyre arguably going for..theyve missed it. too kid friendly. id wanna see a direct translation of the comics with all the goofiness and violence intact.
Feb. 21, 2007, 1:44 a.m. CST
Jesus tap-dancing Christ, the level of blatant TMNT ignorance I'm seeing from you people is beyond belief. By the looks of your post you know absolutley NOTHING about the TMNT. Well let me help educate you: Krang is gone. No one wants to use him, he's not coming back, He was a lame villian, time to let him go. And to TakeitEasyMon, Krang was BASED ON THE UTROMS! The Utroms debuted in 1984, issue 3 of the comics. 3 years before the old series. Also the reviewer, not a plant, just a guy who enjoyed the movie and knows how to use proper English. Just because he gave it a good review, which is different from your opinions, thats no reason to accuse him of being a plant. Shredder, he's dead, get over it. The Turtles have other, and some better, villians. Shredder isn't the Darth Vader of TMNT. Why don't you let Peter Laird move ahead with his creation and shut the fuck up. There are no aliens in this movie, and even if they're were, the movie would still be good. Don't act like the TMNT fighting aliens is new, because remeber, What the Fuck do you think Krang was? An ALIEN people. The TMNT have been fighting aliens since the black and white days, thats just a natural part of the franchise. This movie is geared toward everyone. Thats what they mean by "family", it means that everyone in a family can find something to enjoy. For the kids, they'll like the monsters and the fighting, for the teens to adults, they'll enjoy the deep writting and strong character development. So get your facts straight people, and stop dwelling on the old series. It was a good show, but it was ONE part of an enitre franchise, and it shouldn't be used to define the franchise as a whole.
Feb. 21, 2007, 9:52 a.m. CST
The original comics were drawn by Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. They had their own crew at Mirage doing stories as well. So many different people did a version of the TMNT later, I don't remember if Jim Lee did, and what issue, though. You could find out at the ninjaturtles.com website.
Feb. 22, 2007, 1:25 a.m. CST
I think the only thing Jim Lee did for the Turtles was that set of figures he designed back in the 90's.
March 9, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST
by Gwai L0
a little off-topic, I know, but I wonder if anyone could tell me on what page of Rob Zombie's Halloween remake script the "Gotta Take A Shit Mask" appears. I have the script, but don't want to read the whole thing. Thanks.
March 17, 2007, 4:50 p.m. CST
and here is my review for the film. This review contains spoilers There is a new Full Length Teenage Ninja Turtles movie opening in the Uk and Ireland Next week. This weekend There were Advanced screenings so I went along not knowing what to expect. This was the movie that was touted as a future project for John Woo sometime ago. Untill he walked away from it and went back to whatever he is doing these days and from his lack of output not much it would appear. I Seem to remember a couple of years ago that there was an attempt to do a live action saturday morning cartoon and that there was a female ninja turtle in it. About a year ago I turned on tv to find newer more grittier ninja turtles cartoon and female ninja turtle was nowhere to be found. Back to the Movie.... There is a cool intro by Lawrence Fishbourne explaining the main outline of the movie. Something about three thousand years ago. War. a portal. montsters and a doomed warrior leader. The movie starts in central america and it is here we meet Leonardo who runs into April O Neill(Sarah Michelle Gellar) who is in Central America to bring back the last of some Stone statues called Mr Winter(patrick Stewart). The turtles we are told have defeated Shredder and have gone their seperate ways so to speak, leanardo has been sent by splinter to become a proper Leader. Raphael has donned the Mantle of the nightwatcher. Reason being he is hotheaded and never really dealt with Leonardos absence and decided to take the law into his own hands and he never really got on with Leonardo anyway and besides crime doesnt take a break. Donatello has set up his own business and Michaelangelo is enjoying Pizza. Master Splinter(makos' last film) enjoys watching days of our lives. But what of April O'Neill(Sarah Michelle Gellar) she has set up her own Cargo Company with Casey as her partner. I should point out that this film is CGI. But it looks like the Kind of CGI you see on your X-box and I am not knocking the state of art of those kinds of Computer effects because they really breathtakingly cinematical, especially war games, if you get my drift. The turtles have never looked better. Anyhow, one of Aprils clients is Mr Winter(Patrick Stewart) is actually the last decendent of that doomed warrior whom I spoke of earlier. He wants to round up all thirteen of the Monsters that are now plauging NY and its this reason that forces the Turtles to protect their NY once again. The foot clan have a new leader Karai(Ziyi Zhang) and what is Jarring is at the end, she mentioned the return of a past face. one of the turtles says no, you dont mean. It could be the talking brain in the jar but seeing as we are told they killed of Shredder, that wouldnt make sense. On a Sad note this film marks the last time we will ever hear of Mako. Mako died a day after being announced as master Splinter at San diego Comic. This movie was written by Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. Some of the effects are of a very high standard and this is movie moves ike a motha. However there is precious little in the way of character development. I remember the original toon of which i watched growing up and I saw the two movies, avoided the third like the plague. Die hard fans will explode when they hear that Casey has had his character softened somewhat and April O' Neill is not the gutsy reporter she was in the Original animated series, She now has her own Cargo company As I already mentioned. Stewart is wasted in this movie as his bad guy isnt really all that bad at all. This movie passed the time, it was well made, great to look at, witty in places and the Turtles are still cool. This is a Weinstein company film. Whether this brings them back to the top is anyones guess. A good start but the next film should have a much bigger budget and a much better villain. This could be the first time that comic book characters do well in CGI. Go and enjoy!
March 23, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST
Going to see it but I read some reviews that trashed the film. Is it really as bad as the reviews say. My kid was really looking forward to it becasue of all the hype around adult movies like 300.
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