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The CW Lets
Kevin Smith
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Kevin Smith (“Clerks 2”) will direct “Reaper,” The CW’s pilot about a 21-year-old bounty hunter charged with retrieving those who have escaped Hell. “Law & Order: SVU” vets Michele Fazekas and Tara Butters did the writing. It’s Smith’s first directorial effort for TV.
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Kinda sounds like Brimstone.
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BROWN UNIVERSITY graduates? KELLY RIPA!
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Crap like this is what's gonna replace Veronica Mars. Bah-humbug!
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I remember this concept when it was called Spawn...
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I find myself far less concerned about Smith directing that I do about the whole written-by-L&O:SVU vets thing. Although it could be worse, I suppose...could be written by CSI:Miami vets...then again, Caruso delivers his lines like he's some sort of hellspawn anyway. Now there's your show. Caruso's CSI character gets killed, comes back as some sort of hell-demon. The kicker is nobody notices that he's trying desperately not to feed on suspects and has to wear sunglasses constantly to avoid direct sunlight...because he's basically acting exactly the same way he always did.
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Because unless there's some startling difference, the two shows sound the same to me. And frankly they both seem shitty.<p>Then again maybe that's the CW's master programming plan -- to make all their shows so bland and so homogenous in concept and execution that the viewer will never know when one show has stopped and the next has begun...
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at one point that was similar to this. Some guy was tracking down creatures from hell too? It was in syndication I think. but what makes this better than that?
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"Bung"
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David Caruso rules on that show. Actually, in all honesty, I do think it's the best of the lot. CSI:NY has just never clicked for me and CSI:Vegas just seems like after all these years it's finally running out of steam, gasping for air. That said, nothing beats the CSI:MIAMI Horatio drinking game -- you do a shot every time Caruso either puts on his sunglasses to deliver a cryptic line or puts his hands on his hips in an over-emoting acting gesture.<p>Trust me, it's guaranteed to have you plastered by the second commercial break...
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The show was Brimstone with Peter Horton. He was a cop who killed the guy who raped his wife. He died soon afterwards and went to Hell. The Devil (John Glover) gave him a second chance, so he had to go back to earth and get all 113 demons back. There are all these symbols tattooed on his body and whenever he kills one than that demon's sign will disappear off his body. The first damn thing I thought of when I read the thing above was "that was another show"
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I remember Brimstone. I think I was one of, what, 4 people that actually watched it? It didn't even get a whole season. So why would they think it would this time around? Idiots. "HEY! You remember that Peter Horton show? Let's do it again, except with with a younger guy!"
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John Doe. They need to finish THAT shit. Maybe a 2 hour movie or something...SOMETHING....
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John Doe DID seem a bit like "Nowhere Man". I have Nowhere Man on DVD and have a copy of all the John Doe eps....similar shows indeed.
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...only youngified, lacking the greatness of John Glover, and with someone who can't direct for shit at the helm. Oh yay.
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hopefully they'll get Spielberg to write an original screenplay...oh, and have Denzel as the director of photography and Danny Elfman as gaffer...I smell Emmy!!
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thanks in advance
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Think you're the shit? Link us your amazing work on YouTube or Podshow or MySpace. Whip out your IMDB. Link us where we can buy or Torrent your masterpiece. This kind of hating just makes me think of that amazing Shatner tune "Has Been". With a nod to Yoda: "There is no maybe. There is only do - or sit like a bitch on Harry's Talkback and bitch."
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The REAPER hangs out in front of a 24 hour convenience store and catches demons when they come shopping for some smokes. I wonder why they picked Smith for this?
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Yes! How dare consumers have opinions about the stuff they're trying to sell to us, and those who make it. I mean next we'll start thinking we have a right not to watch something that sucks, and then where will we be? In Total Fucking Anarchy, Michigan, that's where! No, best we all be sycophants and apologists, it might make our faces brown and our tongues taste like shit, but at least it's a safe path to tread.
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So when's Smith going to make that horror movie he once talked about? Procrastination, eh?
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He's stated his love for the show already. Come on, imagine this show he's doing somehow was greenlit and consequently led to VM being cancelled; he'd feel awful.
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...and he knows it.
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anybody read Variety and NOT gag? He begins "lensing"??? WTF?
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What most of the people who talk shit about Kevin Smith don't seem to appreciate is how the man does everything to get his movies made. I've never left the theater feeling disappointed in any way after seeing any of his movies. Now as far as attacking Kevin Smith- let's be honest, attacking his weight problem is just a way to vent on your own frustration of being a fat fuck with nowhere near the accomplishments. Kevin seems to have a really nice family life going and the crybabies on this site are frustrated that they have to choose between spending their allowance on the newest Warcraft bullshit or saving up and hoping they don't piss their pants when they work up the courage to approach some nasty ass prostitute for the first of what is sure to become a lifelong addiction to shameful back alley sexual encounters with crackheads. I personally am not overly excited about this pilot news since Kevin Smith didn't also write it. But his participation means that I'll give the show a chance.
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Oh here it comes. Someone says that Uwe Boll is a shit director and its cool. Someone says that Terry Gilliam is way past his prime and that is cool too. But when someone is critical of a Kevin Smith movie, out come the losers who cry “You can’t criticize Kevin Smith unless you make a movie”. Fuck you kid. Kevin Smith is not retarded. His work does not need to be judged by “special” standards. He is a goddamn hack who steals jokes from the internet and writes awkward movies around them. Fucking deal with it. If you are going to defend Kevin’s movies, argue their merits. Don’t just say, “Kevin Smith is a better person than you, so you can’t mention how fucking lame Jersey Girl is”. It just makes you look adolescent and kinda gay.
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...He'll direct one quarter of it and then leave the rest completely unfinished. Years will pass and every so often, someone will wonder what happened to that REAPER pilot that Kevin Smith was supposed to do.
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You can include yourself in that “If you hate Smith’s movies you suck because he is cooler than you” group of adolescent douche bags. You guys have no idea how fucking stupid you sound. What if I went around the net writing “If you thought A.I and War of the Worlds were boring you are just jealous because Steven Speilberg has a bigger dick than you” ?
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Ready to take a dump on anyone who likes Kevin Smith Movies!! Ok you have shit all over this TB Now please get off the pot, wipe yourself down and go about your business! Kevin Smith is by no means a great filmaker, He just happens to make good flicks that I (as well as many other people) happen to enjoy. So whats wrong with that??
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is the category I fall into after reading this, I liked Brimstone, along with Roar and Vengeance Unlimited it was prime late night tv fare. The likes of which could never be shown during the prime slots because they managed to be morally ambiguous and CLEVER. Instead now we get pussified versions of it, and crud like Supernatural (which is lame sub-Charmed drivel)
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Thus the reason Kevin Smith is directing it....
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the whole thing takes place on a metaphorical level and takes place in a convenience store...
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I wish Kevin were being offered better fare.
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You morose motherfuckers look like someone shit in your cereal . . . bung!
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Nothing is wrong with liking Kevin Smith movies. There is something wrong with getting upset with people who don’t like Smith or his movies. If you like his movies and feel the need to defend them, do it on the merits of the films he creates. I sick of people saying that Smith’s movies aren’t shit because he is a nice guy or that people who think his movies are crap are losers. Kevin Smith seems to be the only director that people do this with and it makes me wonder why. I know that his “rabid fan base” or whatever the people who think that Dogma was profound and not just fucking drivel are called will have a lot to say about the old Jugg Fuckler on this one. If the only defense for Kevin Smith’s movies is “He is cooler than you!” or “He has a great family”, then even you know his movies suck. That’s all.
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the hell escapee is called... Umagaa Ombongo... There is an obscure joke for the cheap seats...
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supposed to be attached to the Star Wars series? That's now become a fucking cartoon...Hmmm..Clerks much. In any event...how many bounty hunters does hell need??
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Just asking.
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I guess the point I'm trying to make is that Kevin Smith has nothing to be ashamed of and anyone talking shit about him is a cockbag. I don't have a lot of hatred or even dislike towards anybody famous except for a chosen few. Michael Jackson, for instance is a fuckin' child molestor and I don't care if he makes an album that crosses all musical genres and sells fifty million copies - I won't be buying one. Same thing for Polanski - he's a bitch that nailed a little girl and ran to avoid getting ass raped in prison for the next thirty years. Anybody else who's putting out product is doing a job and maybe it's my cup of tea or maybe not. I wouldn't go out of my way to see Norbit, but enough people did last week. I'm sure many of them enjoyed it and that's fine for them. It's not Kevin Smith's cool factor that gets me to the theater. It's because I know I'm going to like what I'm watching. And If you don't like what he does, don't go. Just stop acting like a Joel Siegel douchelick clone and get off your fucking high horse.
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Lets face it unless he pulls this off it will pretty much show if smith is only a one man trick for teen toilet trash movies. i used to like his stuff, but as i am sure your all aware i don't like watching the same thing more than 6 times.
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The Vegas version of this show is definetly not running out of steam. The last couple of weeks have been great. The resolution of the Keppler storyline was great; and this week's continuation of the miniature killer was as good as the Paul Milander face-off from the first two seasons. <p> However, that's not to say that the lead-up advertising for each week hasn't gotten a bit stupid. The whole "Who Is Keppler.com" thing was entirely unnecessary. So was the attempt to make people think that William Petersen's 'Gil Grissom' was leaving the show back in January. This type of gimmick advertising is what cheapens a show in people's minds. The script quality of CSI (the original) is as good as ever, Miami's is as well. <p> Oh... and just to hit upon the *actual* topic... no longer such a big fan of poor Kevin Smith...
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can't wait, such a huge fan.
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Brice Cummings is Satan.
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great show. I wish it would have lasted longer.
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Smith's an idiot, just watch any behind-the-scenes doco.
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I'll watch anything Kevin does. Love the guy.
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What I find alarming is "Jason Ensler ("Help Me, Help You") will direct "The World According to Barnes," the "Animal House"-like hour about crime-solving college students." They are about to cancel Veronica Mars and they have the gall to be producing this drek about a crime solving college student?! They can't just leave on the show we are already watching? Unfreaking beli- no wait, I believe it. Sigh.
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I thought Kevin Smith directed those for TV?
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Sounds like a hick network. Whatever happened to the 3 letter acronym? NBC, CBS, ABC ... ah, those where the days. CW sucks a callsign.
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Actually I don't think his wife has big ears, but I seemed to be in the minority last time Smith made a cameo here.
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I like Kevin Smith films. Yep he may not be up there with the best ever directors but when I see his movies I know what I'll get . . .lots of cheap laughs and pops at people who slag off films on internet tb's - much like I often do.<P>And will Mr Carlin make a cameo - here hoping folks
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Has anyone checked to see if it has been placed on iTunes or released on DVD yet? The only way to top John Glover as Satan would be to cast James Callis (sic) in the role.
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The best voiced version of Satan was on last season's Doctor Who two-parter "The Impossible Planet"/"The Satan Pit". The CGI on "the beast" was equally as badazzed proportional to how sucky Satan was in *Spawn*.
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When is Kevin Smith going to pop in and try to school his detractors? Who will be the first to be labelled as clown shoes?
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The "C" is for CBS; the "W" is for Warner Bros. Get it?
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The "C" is for CBS; the "W" is for Warner Bros. Get it?
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They'd be better off trying to restart Brimestone than remaking it. You can't top Glover as the Devil, enjoying a piece of Angelfood Cake in a diner.
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yep, i defend smith; i am one of the apparent minority that feels smiths speak to me on a certain level. i walk away from his films entertained (in the case of jay&silent bob, clerks 1&2) or moved (in the case of chasing amy). i also know that, thanks to that piece of paper the bushies are always trying to burn, everyone is entitled to their own opinion; for every person who enjoys a blunt, a blowjob, and a kevin smith movie (most likely in that order), theres another cat who ain't down wit it. that doesn't make the pro-kevs any less than the anti-kevs (or visa-versa). the thing that baffles me, and it has been brought up on this thread already, is that no other director gets so much love-or-leave; everybody loves spielberg, cameron, and raimi, and everybody hates bay and boll. there doesn't seem to be common ground for this issue- we either love smith and appologize for for some serious lapses in judgement (mallrats, i'm looking at you), or hate his very exsistance to the point where some quite poignent filmmaking gets pitched away (dogma, for what it's worth, has offered probably one of the best treatises on spirituality vs. religion i've ever seen). i guess my point is, fawning fanboys, realize that smith is human- he's one of us with our failings. and haters, it's not like he a golgothan; the dude GOTTA be doing something right. all he's doing is making films he thinks is cool, and hoping maybe a couple of other cats do, too. granted, thats a bit of an oversimplification, but it's pretty much a paraphrase from the man himself.
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Nothing but virgin cunts. Carry on.
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Feb. 16, 2007, 10:16 p.m. CST
I'm thankful for Smith's Daredevil relaunch story arc
by George Newman
Thats about it, I dont think there's anything special about his directing.
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I'll say it, I'm a Smith fan... I saw Clerks 2 opening weekend, as well as other movies by him. I'll say this, though... JuggFuckler was right. People have all the right in the world to shitbag Smith. We're human, all different and everyone has different tastes... but it's gfunny that those that shitbag Smith get pissed off when they, or their tastes, get shitbagged... turnabout being fair play and all that. Someone said to defend Smith other than he's a nice guy, nice family. How's this... he directs a damn good film. His films are the most human, true to life films of our age. Personally, I think Tarantino is a piece of shit who just tosses a bucket of red paint at a wall and gets "artistic" praise... can't stand his films. People here like him. But that's his style. Smith makes films that are rare... not only are they relateable, but they are real. Yes, we can relate emotions to characters in films, but in Smith's films there are people that I SWEAR I have known in real life, all of us have known little junkie fucks, smarmy store clerks, etc. That's what Smith does well, and the reason people dislike him. We want to relate to characters, not see our friends up on screen.
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but smacks of someones idea that tries too hard to be cool and edgy. i like smith but it seems like he's over-exposing himself too much these days
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I love me some Kevin Smith, in a hetro life-mate sort of way. <p> Snoogins!!
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its not nice, she's a lovely person by all accounts and if you ever met her in real life you'd just want to give her a big cuddle, she's that sort of "awwwww" cute. Not like the character in Clerks 2 at all. But no, I think Smith has a very limited scope for making films, as evidenced by the very flat Jersey Girl and Chasing Amy compared to the great Clerks films and cartoon, and the screwball comedies Mallrats and Dogma. I think he should try his hand at a balls to the wall action/adventure movie. That'd be his make or break.
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Kevin Smith, the master of mediocrity. I don't think there's anything else to say.
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...I liked Clerks a lot when it first came out. Dogma seemed a well intentioned and sometimes entertaining failure. I laughed a lot at Jay and Silent Bob. Watching Jersey Girl made my teeth ache, Mallrats reduces me to near catatonia, Chasing Amy was one of the sadder cases of arrested development I've ever seen on a screen, and Clerks II made me embarrassed for everyone involved in the making of the film. I guess I don't love or hate Smith. But I hope for the best for him, so I hope this works at least well enough to keep him in the game.
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i like kevin smith, he's a real motherfucker swimming in the sea of self-important shitheads, and by that i mean whoreywood, not TBland. my responses to his films have run the gamut from love to loathe, and maybe his best work is behind him, i don't know. i don't care. if the man can put together an extended tv gig, that's gotta be a strong draw for a family man and i can respect that. bully for KS. how many 40-something husbands & fathers do you know who are looking for artistic fulfillment? it's all about making sure the bills is paid and trying to have some bloody fun whilst you do it, kiddies. remember that.
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The CRTC - look it up, I'm not going to try and explain their ways - denied Smith the ability to direct Degrassi. Yes, he appeared in Degrassi, but was unable to direct due to Canadian content laws. Those Canucks are fucked in their own tall, charming, handsome and intelligent way.
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This is encouraging me to pull down the full Brimstone VHS set I have and do a DVD conversion. Brimstone's major plus was Glover as Lucifer. He played the part perfectly, and he does a pale imitation of it on Smallville. Oh, and uh, hello, Lori Petty! Rowr!
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And he was a pretty good angel, too (since in Brimstone, however you saw one angel was how you saw them all. Saved on extra casting, too). I didn't care for some of the souls he was going after; if these were the "worst," then hell's got a pretty crappy army for armageddon. But the disconnect he had with the time he was hunting in was kind of funny (even though they got the Reggie bar completely wrong).
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Smart move I guess, if you direct a pilot you get paid on every other episode. Who wouldn't want to have directed the first Law and Order? Even with a minor success you would be making money on a few weeks work for a long time. If it fail, ah well still got paid.
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I was watching an evening with kevin smith 2, and he talks about how he hates doing action scenes. So this series may be a little dull. However if he is only doing the pilot, he is the man to shape the scene for the further episodes! Smith is a good story teller.
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the name of the show that came out a few years back with John Glover as the devil, that pretty much sounds like this show....then it occured to me to read the talkbacks and I saw about 20 guys had referenced "Brimstone"...sigh...when will I learn to trust you folks...?
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He couldn't direct the camera properly if his life depended on it and he KNOWS it. The man can write decent dialogue, but his camera work is fucking first year film school work. Also, if Kevin Smith is some type of bar by which you compare other films or filmmakers...you have set the bar pretty low indeed.
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I've seen this tv series before it was called Brimstone, and it was freaking awesome until they cancelled it! Bring it on :)
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Personally I don't really enjoy those shows, but I can look at Khandi Alexander all day long.... Just give her a show where she is onscreen 100% of the time, and I'll be sure to watch.
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Funny, and finally a review with teeth. Nice chemistry with Roeper again,along with some sparks. Baggy shorts and hockey jersey ditched for head to toe black. Definitely Smith's color. Not too many people can fill Roger's chair, but KS at 300+ pounds is more than adequate IMHO.
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Um, not crying. Did I even mention Boll or Gilliam??? And having an opinion about a film is perfectly okay. I have them. My comments were directed at people who simply hate on Kevin Smith generally. You want to talk about muddy act breaks in Dogma? Cool. But hating on the filmmaker personally because you don't like his work or you're a jealous do-nothing and ain't ever gonna do nothing fuck? That's why I referenced the brilliant Shatner song "Has Been" and why I suggested haters post links to the shit they've done. And BTW, I haven't seen a single frelling link here yet. I at least do a podcast. http://tinyurl.com/2dwsl8
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You seemed to have completely missed the point and you are retarded. This is all.
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...well... I figure if the idiots can make a big deal out of being first...
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