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NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM fingerpainter, Shawn Levy to helm THE FLASH!
Hey folks, Harry here... My instant reaction to the name SHAWN LEVY and THE FLASH was, "WHO?"
That prodded me to IMDB. THE PINK PANTHER, CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN... NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM...
This was my second reaction, "WARNER BROTHERS - What the fuck? You were showing so much promise, so much coolness. Christopher Nolan.... Bryan Singer... SHAWN FUCKING LEVY? Are you fucking kidding me? Have you seen his turd-buckets? They're so bad, the flies stay away..."
Then as this wave of RATIONAL RAGE washed over me - I could see what they were thinking. With BATMAN BEGINS and SUPERMAN RETURNS - there was a segment of the audience that felt those films were just too serious. That they were not "COMIC" enough. This caused me to see RED - and not the scarlet of our speedster's costume.
Then I thought - well... My fave FLASH comics were always entrenched in the Silver Age run he ran. Though technically - I really loved the old school Golden Age version of the character. That said - FLASH was a "lighter" character. That doesn't mean he was fucking RETARDED though.
As an audience, we generally have no reason... AT ALL, to think that this was a good idea. There's a chance that Shawn Levy has been biding his time serving mentally challenged execs that want films like THE PINK PANTHER and NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM... and that he's been desperate to get his hands on something substantial - with which to prove his mettle. Perhaps he's a Gore Verbinski - waiting to explode from his MOUSE HUNTS with a grand adventure.
Well... at least I liked MOUSE HUNT. This is a project that just went from "CAN'T WAIT FOR..." to "OH GOD, PLEASE DON'T SUCK LIKE THE WARNER HERO FLICKS OF OLD!!!"
Let us pray.
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I don't think flash can carry the weight of his own movie.
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You heard it here first.
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...how much it hurts when The Flash stubs his toe. Really, that's got be an inhuman level of pain. Maybe he has special anti-stub boots ar somesuch, I don't know, but this seems like a flaw in this comic book character.Good luck to whomever gets stuck with this film about a man who runs fast but is not the four-minute mile guy.
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Ugh. This is going to suck so very hard.
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horsehit.
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Horseshit*Honestly, though, Goyer probably wasn't the right choice either.
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They shouldn't bother casting a Flash. An entire movie where you never see the Flash--that would be awesome.
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Put in BLADE: TRINITY again. PINK PANTHER is gold compared to that Blade movie.
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The Flash will be played by Abe Vigoda. The Villain will be Captain Cold played by Conan O'Brien.
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serious.
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I threw this out there jokingly as a name for Wonder Woman... and just got burned.
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I had more respect for Warners when the word was this project was getting shelved. Why go ahead make a mockery of it? They should be aiming for something of quality action adventure entertainment like Die Hard or Raiders. Instead they're going to give us a piece of cinematic greatnes that will rank right up there with Police Academy 4,5 or 6.
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and the flames!!! Don't forget the flames....and taints.
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Jack Black as Green Lantern is starting to sound better and better...
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Mouse Hunt is a modern masterpiece of commedia del'arte. Don't knock it.
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¿Qué?
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is up with the order here. Everytime I post it shoots up about four or five posts.
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...this brand of horseshit should never happen. I don't go to superhero movies to have a giggle with Grandma and my 8-year-old nieces. I go to comic book movies to see a little ass-whompin', and maybe even some dudes in tights. You know, LIKE THEY HAPPEN IN THE COMIC BOOKS THEMSELVES. Is this concept really so fucking hard to grasp?
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Ryan Reynolds would be perfect for The Flash. Hes got the physique,and he can do the one-liners. As long as Uwe Boll doesnt direct the movie, I'll probably go and see it.
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I think we have to resign ourselvs to the fact that this movies has SUCK written all over it. Now it's just a matter of how much suck WB wants to schmear on it. Frankly, superheroes movies have sucked for more than a minute now. Superman Returns was pathetic on more levels than I care to think about. Batman was built to sell video games and had so much bad science in it it was just broken. I can't watch the Ghost Rider trailer without cringing. Save your high hopes for 300.
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There, I said it. These types of movies are really so embarassingly similar to one another, that the only people that are interested are the type who bitch about organic webshooters or flaming nipples on the Batsuit. Yawnsville. These movies are a disposable property, and are treated by their directors and studios as one-off's with a built in obsessive fanbase. Save the wrath for the important stuff: like how Soul Plane II still hasn't been greenlit.
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The cards are set in motion. They will want to go lighter for the Superman Returns sequel. I don't know if that's good or bad. We could end up getting a film that was actually worse than Superman Returns.
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as in pure shite. Seriously, Harry is right, Warner want a light and crappy comic book flick and that's what they're gonna get. And it'll probably take in the money, just like Fantastic Four did. For shame.
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Flash can move at superhuman speeds, has incredible reflexes(which seems like the next logical step) and can time travel. Oh no! Time travel is often times the a crutch for the worst writing possible. Let me guess, the movie starts off with his "girlfriend" getting killed - but it's ok, he'll just travel back in time - so there is never any real danger. That was the best decision they made on Heroes. They put it up front, Hiro can't just go back and change things, and just by trying he some caused his powers to dissapate. So, I guess we'll see what they come up with.
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to start claiming this is a good thing. Goddamn fucktards.
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...and they would've gotten away with it if it weren't for us meddling kids!
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is responsible for the decline in western cinema. Let's hope Shaun Levy is better than that.
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well, he did do one comic book movie but unfortunally his lead actor got killed in the proccess. so i doubt he would want to go back and do this type of movies after that.. oh and superman is not as horrible as some of you fucktards are making it out to be, just dissapointing, and hey, if you are tired of comic book movies, then dont watch them you right wingged nut
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With his odd rogues gallery and all, it is hard to take him seriously. Add that to how really unbeatable he is--come on, the comics do not portray his powers as formidable as they are. no one should be able to beat him. There has to be some gimmick with him not being used to his powers or something in order to make the movie feasible. I am picturing a GREATEST AMERICAN HERO type movie. not saying that is a good thing, but considering the writer, it sounds plausible.
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I'll get this one out the way first:David Goyer!
Overrated... I saw Blade Trinity and it sucked Balls!BIG ANEMIC BALLS!!
And second Harry even my 5 year old kid knows who Shaun Levy is!!
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I normally hate superhero movies and I really liked BB, so did most people I know who generally dislike superhero movies so I don't know what they're talking about when they want to make these movies "more comic". The comic geeks will see anything so matter how bad it looks just because its got some roots in comic stuff. Its people like me who can add more box office to these movies. Keep making them more dramatic and serious like Batman Begins and you'll get my money.BTW I never saw Superman Returns, it looked lame. Maybe I'm wrong.
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How much would it cost me to have you find the link between Michael Bay and Uwe Boll?
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You can find all stores selling it at midnight at the Marvel website. And this Flash news really blows.
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The only time I saw the Flash's powers taken really seriously was a DC comic called Justice Elite or something like that AND the JLU cartoon "The Great Brain Robbery" when Luthor and Flash switched minds and Luthor pretty much owned all of the people in the Tower. But yes, I agree, Flash is hard to take seriously cause of his rogue gallery. Even Captain Cold doesn't seem all that menacing when compared to Mr. Freeze. The Trickster seems as menacing as the Joker, etc. etc. etc.
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The Flash outruns T-Rex skeleton!
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Transported back in time, the Flash outruns Ghengis Khan and a bunch of his horde! He ultimately escapes in an elevator.
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It's called the TAINT.Thank you,good night.Try the veal.I'll be here all week.
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The Flash runs circles around an aging Steve Martin in order to "turn back time" ala Superman II to revert Steve to his younger, funnier, King Tut-like self.
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is the over-used "bullet-time" special effect that was made infamous in The Matrix.
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from the Flash series in the 90's. He was just soooooo perfect. Seriously. Hey, for the villian they could just reuse clips from Batman 4 of Arnie saying "COOOOLLLLDDDD". I mean, if they're going to make a shitheap, why waste the money?
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Didn't the Batman series tell the studios that people weren't interested in camp anymore(if ever). I don't think there is anything wrong with throwing some natural humor into a comic book film, but don't make it a comedy. I really like the Flash and hope someone with a lick of sense will make sure it is not ruined by making it a light hearted family action/comedy. I don't want to see Spy Kids Flash. I personally would like to see a Justice League type movie...maybe they should save the Flash for that type of project.
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then use a less well known hero, like what they're doing with Antman. Making The Flash into a joke is just annoying. The puns are going to be worse than the ones in this talkback, and if this somehow becomes a serious movie, then I highly doubt the skills of the director to pull it off.
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Feb 05, 2007 11:38:59 AM CST
BEHOLD! My Robotic Clone... of TIM STORY! HAHAHAHAHA
by harry weinstein
Seriously, though, BLADE: TRINITY is one of the very worst movies I've ever seen. I wasn't expecting much from it but even with lowered expectations, I was stunned at how amateurish and just plain bad it was. I'll give Goyer a tiny bit of credit and assume it was a learning experience - but I'd still be nervous handing him THE FLASH. Not "give the movie to the PINK PANTHER guy" nervous, though.
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Or they get tired.
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I think we have another "Steel" coming.
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They were good!
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225 million domestic in five weeks. As opposed to 200 million for supes over three looong months.
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Hm...he can do special effects after Night at the Museum, which was a gigantic hit. Brett Ratner helming X-Men 3 was able to outgross every single one of Bryan Singer's superhero movies. And even lower-tier, more-popcorny superhero fare like Fantastic Four can become major summer blockbuster. Welcome aboard, Shawn Levy. (For my money? Levy's clearly a director-for-hire the same way someone like Verbinski was. He doesn't need to be amazing. If he's given a solid script and the right cast, he'll make a good movie.)
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It definitely seems like Warner wants to go in the "lighter" direction ala Spiderman 1... But I'm not too sure about Mr. Levy... Warner hit it big time with quality directors like Nolan and Singer, although Singer is questionable...
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well, hopefully after the failure of his las two movies, idiots at warner bros wont think of him as a marquee name anymore and will reconsider casting him as a superhero..besides he alrady played one in nacho libre so let that be it
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Harry don't be an asshole, just because the content of a movie sucks don't blame the director, blame the writers and producers for pushing a bad product.
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why I suddenly decided to buy a pair of 10 eye oxblood Doc Marten boots yesterday! Must be some divine message to get ready for some old fashioned aggro.
I was excited hearing some of the snippets of where Goyer was going with the script. But was seriously hoping he would decide to not direct at last minute. I can see the light hearted/family comedy angle for Plastic Man or Captain Marvel...but The Flash? Hopefully by light hearted they mean something in the vein of the JLU episode "Flash and Substance."
I'm going to see this becuase Flash is my favorite character and I'm so whipped. But I'm not having any higher hopes than this being a steaming pile of cowshite. -
God bless, there is no way I would really find any use in Jack Black playing ANY superhero, save Bouncing Boy. IF Warners had any smarts, screw the licensing and make that Justice League movie. Really, you don't HAVE to have Supes or Bats in it - if you cast the right actors (not STARS, but actors) in those hero roles, we wouldn't miss the big two one bit. The Justice League or the Titans (or in my dreams, the Justice Society) would stomp the crap out of the X-Men movies, IF done with care.
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...cuz he's in the future sometimes, he's seen this movie already and confirms it will bomb.
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Tell him Howard Hughes said so...
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FLASH IN NAME ONLY!! You know it will be.. DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!
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Good one. I always like it when someone uses a smart, little-known reference compared to your sexy tomboy beanpoles, Little Miss Sunshine, Gotta Eats and Taint-nonsense. Oh, and WB has lost their damn minds.
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And if you think that opinion somehow makes The Flash movie worse, well, life sucks. Superman wasn't serious in tone, it was downright somber in places. The main theme of the film seems to be "Oh, it's so hard to be Superman." At least in BB, Bruce actually seemed to have a little enjoyment being Batman. Superman can't have a girlfriend, Superman gets his ass kicked, Superman has a son but can't be his dad, Superman just nearly died in a very Christ-like position... Give me a little fun, wouldja? I'm not asking for the 1960s Batman show. Just a little more enjoyment. I don't wanna be depressed when the movie ends.
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that way if it DOES actually get made, maybe it'll never actually get released.
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You would introduce Hal Jordan, how he got the ring from yours truly, and pit him against one rogue or another (not Sinestro yet, save him for a future film) - plus the obligatory angst with Carol Ferris. It should only touch upon the bigger picture (the Corps, OA, et al...); the second flick could then open it up to the entire concept of the Green Lantern Corps, perhaps introducing other favorites from the GL universe (Guy Gardner, John Stewart, Kilowog, **KYLE RAYNER OMITTED ON PURPOSE**), and then make the third movie an all out intergalactic space epic with no holds barred. And if you've got time to squeeze in Green Arrow, hey, that's great!
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You mean, people actually care about a guy who runs around real fast? Why is a movie being made of this guy and not "The Tick?" What research came up that stated this movie would sell?
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Wow, cool news. I hope he uses the shot-lived TV series as a template. That was sooooo great. Not often you get news this good. *sigh*
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If done right would KICK ASS - thank you.
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best line ever about the Flash: "There is a man who moves so fast that his life is an endless gallery of statues."...I'd like to see a Flash movie that had a serious tone...not jokey bullshit for the mouth breathers...that doesn't mean dour, just straight drama (which includes humor)
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...this is way beyond sick and wrong. It's wrongsick!
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It's unbelieveable that all you have to do to make it as a director in the current Hollywood climate is sell out and be completely subservient. And people like Shawn Levy are more than happy to oblige. What a fucking wanker this guy is.
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How DID he have that kid, anyway? Wouldn't he blow a load like a shotgun right thru her back? Sorry, Mallrats moment there. And yes, Patrick Warburton needs to be in The Tick movie instead of some 'How I Met Your Mother' ripoff. SPOON!
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He'd know what to do with the Flash.
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I'll repeat a post from another talkback - obviously you've never heard Donovan's "Sunshine Superman," because if you had, you'd know that GL is mentioned TWICE in that song! Whaddaya mean vague?
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That's how they called it in Argentina. When some printing house decided to publish the FLASH a couple of years ago they had some rights issues on the name and published it as FLUSH MAN. I shit you not. A toilet super hero sounds more appropriate for this filmatist. Anyway, that's what I thought when I read this news. Warner has just flushed the movie.
PS: What's so good about Flash anyway? Green Lantern, THAT'S what I want to see. And then I don't want any more comic movies. Like, ever. -
Feb 05, 2007 12:49:25 PM CST
Just take a dump, put some flames on the turd and film
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
because that would be way more exciting then what this moron will give to WB as final product.
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Good God, it's X-MEN: THE LAST STAND all over again.
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C'mon Warner Brothers...Shawn Levy?!?!?! Really?! Why not just let my coffee table direct it? It'll be exactly the same movie Levy would make, only the table won't ask for a percent of the gross on this piece of crap.
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Goyer keeps turning in drafts of a script that looks nice and Goyer style twisted, all the while the execs want something more Fantastic Fourish. So they bring in their current hot shit, Levy, who it just so happens has directed every YA scifi television show made in the last 10 years - check out IMDB. Levy jumps on it,and he's hot now, and he tells the execs what they want. Badaboom, badabing
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How many fart jokes and lame pop culture references will this movie have?
And c'mon Warner Brothers...if you're really set on having this no-talent direct this, then shouldn't all posters, trailers, and ad spots tout "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN & OTHER MINDLESS SHIT" (you get the drift)?
This is fucking awful news. Let the mouthbreathers who made "Night At The Museum" a success have this bastardized piece of shit "Flash" movie. Others (95% of the Talkbackers and the articulate and intelligent among us, fleeting though we may be in this country these days; the other 5% will rip on the majority), wisely, will beware and avoid this film like the plague. -
Lovely.
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How did this happen?
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You're right on as usual. I was on boxofficemojo the other day and saw the gross for NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM had gone well over 200 million. I then knew that Shawn Levy was definitely going to get hired for something that none of us would want him to direct. I'm just glad it's THE FLASH and not WATCHMEN or something else I love. I wanted to point out to some above posters that Zack Snyder is not going to be directing WATCHMEN. 300 will bomb, and he will then be leaving the project due to "creative differences". He isn't the right guy to direct anyway.
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ALL HAIL HOLLYWOOD!
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other than Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and the Flash, and you get blank stares from 90% of the populace. Martian Whowhatter? Blue Lampshade? I guess thanks to Smallville maybe 5% of those people know who Green Arrow is. No studio exec is going to greenlight (haha!) a Lantern movie anytime in the next decade. Sad, but true.
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2hrs of why the Flash WANTS to move as fast as he does and15 minutes of him using his powers crammed into 15 seconds,you know,because he DOES move so fast.
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While raising 12 babies, who all have super powers!!!
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Wally West now masturbates to pictures of a dying Barry Allen and kills Prof.Zoom for raping a retarded Iris.
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Sorry, since Lucas isn't doing any more star wars movies, I felt compelled. Seriously, I had high hopes for teh flash. If done right, the flash could be cool. I will say this however, the stories behind the films this guy have directed have all sucked, but from a pure direction standpoint, he's not half bad. I would be curious to see what he could do with a decent story. I mean seriously. The effects in Night At the Museum, not half bad, and the integrate well. If the Flash sucks, I would be more inclined to blame it on the script, and the studio than Levy. To be fair, the Ratner X-3 was well directed, it was the script that sucked, and that wasn't the Rat. If I were WB and DC, I would sit the writer(s) and director down in a library with every issue of the Flash ever written, force him to read it, then get a group of like 30 fan-boys together not to discuss story, but what appeals to them about the flash, and then let them translate it for the screen. Chances of that happening = 0%, but it would still be cool. That said, I will wait and see which version of the script is used, who wrote it, and what it is about before I blame levy for a bad flick.
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of course his mask will have to change when "doody" calls.
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I've got John C. McGinley from Scrubs as my Hal Jordan. He's done serious before, he could be good. He cerainly looks the part.
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Sorry, but I've gotta disagree on the logic...even though I agree with you. Make sense? What I'm agreeing on is that you're probably right that the majority of the populace don't know who the heck most of the Justice League is, but I would say the exact same thing for X-Men and the Avengers. Who besides fans could tell you who Cyclops was? Or Kitty Pryde? How about the Scarlet Witch? Or any number of Marvel heroes? I think that much of the DC pantheon has history on it's side, and that actually gives them an edge in being recognized. Like I said before, you fill the roles with talented actors, and you'll be sucessful.
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I think the guy deserves a sidekick! Flashpaper, Flashbulb, Nothing Flashy, Flashamatazz!
What about Sean Connery as Flash?! That would be sweet - a fat, 75-year-old Scotsman in a skin-tight suit. Or mayhaps Steven Seagal. I can see it now.
I guess people take The Flash seriously ... I dunno. I apologize for my silly poking at it in advance then ... but the very idea of a guy who runs fast being the focus of a movie just seems like making a movie out of "Carpet Man" from "The Tick."
He drags his feet on the ground to create static electricity, and when it's too hot, he just passes out. Grade-A brilliant, I tell ya! I love "The Tick" so much. -
It's got some good moments...
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Windburned nipples on Flash!
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...okay,I think I just made myself throw up in my mouth a little.
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The text must've been yellow. You are probably right that the younger generation may be more familiar with a Cyclops than a Green Lantern, but I really think that GL is a lot more familiar to the public as a whole. Heck, he and lots of the other DC heroes had postage stamps come out last year! I think most of the original seven JLers (Supes, Bats, WW, Flash, GL, Aquaman, probably NOT the Manhunter) are as well known as any Marvel property. And I guarantee that people in general know a lot more about GL than any of the Watchmen, and that one's getting made! (And I AM happy about that, BTW)
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Takes a speed freak to know one!
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1st - As awful as this seems, I have high hopes. I liked The Flash as a kid because he was the least understood of the big 4 superheroes of JLA.
2nd - A GREATEST AMERICAN HERO movie would be perfect for those looking for lighter material. I, too would love to see that one, if it comes to light. As long as it's not slap-stick or too goofy.
3rd - A Green Lantern movie would be awesome (Abin Sur - I like your idea of the 1st movie about Hal and breifly touching on the bigger picture of the OA, and then having the shift of focus from Hal to the other GL's. Also: Where the frak is MY ring???). At first I figured that it would be good to see a live-action version, but have since realized that a good, newer-style (like the newer Bats or Spidey) animated show would rock to high heaven. Especially if it does deal with all the GLs. If this does not already exist. -
Fastest stinkpalm alive!
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Get Kevin Smith.He might actuallybe agood choice here.And if so...
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Or not.Just sayin'...
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They only focused on the most recognizable characters: Wolvie, Cyclops, Grey and Storm. Like if they did a JLA movie they would only focus on Supes, Bat, WW and Flash. Lantern would have some bit part as a teenager, and his scenes would all be romantic drama between him and Hawkgirl. Manhunter would be seen shapeshifting ONCE, a la Colossus. Why have Rogue without Gambit? Why was she a teenager? At least they didn't fuck up Beast, I guess. I dunno, I can see a JLA movie (being totally crap, because it would be lorded over by money-grubbing studio execs looking for a quick buck) but I don't see a GL movie getting off the ground. Just like I don't see a Gambit movie being made (my personal superhero dream). I'll admit, GL has a much more fleshed out backstory, but still. Hey, I'm more than willing to be proved wrong here. But like you said, leave Kyle Rayner out of it.
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The perfect scenarion would be to get that JLA movie made, then launch some independent franchises from those. I will continue to dream - I mean, if Del Toro is gonna make Deadman, there HAS to be hope for GL!
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The kid is fucking crying for attention here, people, and you're just ignoring the poor virginal bastard. He's not quite up the level of genetically-inbred trollage that TomBodet is yet, but he's working on it...
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When will studios learn the formula? Spider-Man, Batman (the good ones), Lord of the Rings, Sin City, X-Men. Just make us happy movie studios, and we'll make you rich!
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there has yet to be a comic book movie that focused on the space mythology of either Marvel or DC. The new Fantastic Four will delve into it a little (and I secretly hope Superman Again takes the big blue boyscout off Earth). Green Lantern would be a wonderful opportunity for some truly wonderful special effects (which also means to do it right it has to be costly).
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he was born to play the part
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He was perfect about 10 years ago...but if you want to build a franchise, you gotta find someone a LITTLE younger. Who that is, I have no idea...
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god, Shawn Levy is just what the suits want; to get away from any substance like BB, and toward Tim Story's take on FF; no one to complain to; isn't DC owned by Warners?
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He told me he was pissed at me for making a joke about casting him as the Trcikster again, but now he's in actual negotiations! Go, Luke, Go!!!
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I've never seen his movies, but Levy won me over with a great interview on Fox Movie Channel's "Life After Film School" series. He came across as a friendly, intelligent, engaging guy who is completely thankful for his success in the business. He admitted that these big-budget studio comedies were not really his passion, and he expressed his desire to do other types of movies. Well, now's his shot.
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Enjoy, bitches...
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When I say this movie will be a shitheap, it's mostly because I can't see them making it mainstream while staying true to the character or tone. And if it doesn't pander to the masses, how ever will they afford the effects budget? Catch 22.
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...thats what it is!
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I usually agree with Harry, but in this case I don't see any need to get frothy-at-the-mouth angry yet. Yet! I'm willing to give this guy a chance. Hell, he's GOT to be better than Ratner!!
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i mean some of you think you are funny and write witty commnets but truth is, well, you suck
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wouldn't she just run away from therapist? (I never get tired of that. Suck it, Trebek.)
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well, since you brought it up, yes, retarded people do think they are funny, therefore they say and do retarded things to amussed themselves.. but i was not naming names in regards of my last comment,so obviously, you doubt yourself as being funny.. its cool, im not telling anyone to stop, just pointing it out, thats all
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on a regular basis. I could care less if anyone else thinks I'm funny. But you do all think I'm funny tho... right? RIGHT?!!? MY MENTAL WELL-BEING DEPENDS ON YOUR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF MY WITTY RETORTS O_O;;;
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Shawn Levy Directing.
Ryan Reynolds as the Flash.
Anne Hathaway or Abbey Diaz (Porno Starlet) as Barry Allen's Girlfriend.
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There were script problems, certainly, but a talented director could have done something with it. Instead, we get choppy editing, cutting away before the scene could have any impact, the quickest sunset in history, bad scoring, weak performances from the actors who obviously could have used some direction. All those things are director's choices, even if others perform the tasks. Rothman and Fox may have set the train off the rails, but Ratner engineered the wreck. I am disappointed at assigning a bad comedy director to this, but I don't really give a shit about Flash. As a comics fan, though, I don't want any comic movie to suck. Or worse, suck and be successful (FF, X3), telling studios that they can take shortcuts, hire no-talent directors, use weak scripts, screw the fans and still make shitloads of money.
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I'm simply disinterested till Shawn and the production makes me interested. Which is sad, cuz as a FLASH fan - I'd like to be frothy at the mouth in anticipation of a FLASH movie. I've got pretty much a complete run of FLASH beginning with those earliest SHOWCASE appearances.
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18752 <---- Tom Cruise. The Hardy Boys. Bad, but I laughed my ass off at this. Did Trey Parker and Matt Stone write the script? I mean, THE HARDLY BOYS! TWO YOUNG WHIPPER-SNAPPERS WITH A KNACK FOR SOLVING MYSTERIES!
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I'll be interested until i see how the movie turns out.
I've got Flash Comics & the TV series DvD set too!
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ooh, i can run fast. blah...there are so many better books that need to be made before this its not even funny
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from the replies being before the original posts they reply to. o_o;
hif4life... Sarcasm? No problems, we're all cool, everyone just put down the guns and CGI whips... -
It's good to feel loved. ^_^ Like... in a totally hetero way. o_o;
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Fuck the Flash and this clownish attempt to make him wacky like the cartoon JLA.
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Didn't McG direct, "We Are Marshall"?
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and you're not disinterested, as much as you claim to be. you've got antipathy, not apathy. and that's just sad. Shit, you point to bad comedies, let the poor fella try to do an action/drama before you pass judgement. And seriously, you, with the pure drivel we've had to endure on this site (I had to buy a new monitor after that Blade II review, it just made everything so unclean) shouldn't be calling someone whose actually written real, produced movies a "fingerpainter". it makes you look petty, snivelly, jealous and backbiting. which, granted, may be the case. but don't be so obvious about it.
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I'm not saying go and make them out and out comedies, but maybe an adventure w/Indy-style lightness. Let's list these so that future generations of geeks will not be upset when these show up as sitcoms.
1) Plastic Man
2) Hawkman (think of Disney's Condorman, if it were a bit funnier and thrillinger)
3) The Flash (as long as its not about a kid in underoos making fart jokes)
4) Green Lantern (yes, it should be epic, but even if the story's a lighthearted romp about a regular shmoe who gets a magic ring, well, as long as its like the Duck Dogers episode w/the GL Corp)
5) Captain Marvel (delusionally quaint superhero who is an eternal optimistic chucklehead even when dealing with the scum of the earth, like Mr. Mind)
6) actually, if Teen Titans taught us anything, it's that light-hearted antics can work in the right hands regardless of who the character is. So how about this? How about a list of characters who *cannot* survive a lighter touch? C'mon, I challenge thee! -
The truth is that Levy guy just knows how to deal with the people who get your movie made. And his movies make money. He knows which ass to kiss and
how to make bland movies that people like. He's gotten some breaks too. They begged him to do Night. He's their boy. And if I have to hear that fucking story about how he and Stiller arent special effects guys and they redid that whole scnes with the door and whatever on spot. YAWN. And we can all bitch and moan like we did with the Ratner Xmen thing but then it made a ton of money. And you know a lot of that was geek money. And we always want the bad ass director but sometimes they give you Superman Returns )which was WORSE then X3) or the Hulk. We all complained about Tim Story but his movie made tons. We'd all like ever superhero movie to be done right. But it just cant be that way. -
I'm not really sure how much you can do with this cinematically. It'd better be a darned good storyline.
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Come on, you know that's where this is heading.
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Right demographic (young, beautiful), plenty of chance for witty discourse, romance, action, etc.
Come on, WB -- it's not that hard. It's a comic book. Put some people in tights, give 'em some action, and here's the tricky part -- WRITE A DECENT STORY to go with the characters. -
Well he did direct an episode of Birds of Prey so he has a little superhero experience plus he direct episodes of First Wave which was a pretty cool serious sci fi show...or am i being ridiculously optimistic because Night at the Museum was rather average.
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with two absolutely BRILLIANT moves. first they drop goyer, who produced a great Batman Begins script in favor for the guy who directed Cheaper by the Dozen.
and then, to top that magnificent decision off, a joel schumacher interview reveals they are doing a straight-to-DVD sequel to The Lost Boys (not the greatest movie mind you, but it does have Jack Fucking Bauer in it)....
furthermore, the interview revealed joel wanted to do a sequel with all female vampires and the Dub said no. so they pick a bullshit DVD sequel that will suck absolute monkey balls and drop a potential geek/internet fanboy's wet dream that would feature hot female vampires doing hot female vampire shit.
BRILLIANT. you motherfuckers REALLY know your demographic, dontcha... (this doesn't even make sense from a financial perspective either, except that it'd probably be cheaper to make the DVD... but the chick movie has the potential to earn much more...)
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Night at the Museum was a fun family film.
Superman Returns bashed a character into crap and removed itself from any DC related superman. Plus the plot holes and the crappy acting. Ugh
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...to see wether this will be a total clusterfuck or not. Atleast they have picked someone who knows how to do a film with special effects, and night at the museum was not half bad.
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Are the Coreys gonna be in it? Did Haim get time off from Circuit City to do it? WILL FELDMAN WEAR A FUNNY HAT?! Oh, the questions... I'll be waiting in line at Best Buy at 6am for this one. w00t!
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......your telegraphed review of this movie, already and just be done with with? We know you've written it as we speak. De ja vu ala FF4, X3, and even Supes Returns and Kong when we all knew how you felt about those movies loooooong before they were released. Oh, and let's not forget to cue the all the Harry Lemmings and Sheep in this talkback to jump on Harry's merry bandwagon and all over Levy's case while crapping all over his reputation. I'm going to go out on a wild limb here and predict that this Flash movie will embarrassingly outgross Supes Returns 2 ( assuming Singer is still around to make it, that is; methinks WB is preparing to give him the good ol' heave-ho), Batman Returns or Batman Begins 2 or whatever the frak they're calling it now, and of course - just to complete the Justice League trifecter, - Whedon's Wonder Woman. What's that, you say? Whedon's no longer doing Wonder Woman? Mr. Singer, I think the bell tolls for thee.
After all, if these talkacks have taught us anything,......ANYTHING at all, - it's that as soon as Harry and his merry minions start badmouthing a movie and telegraphing negative reviews, that movie instantly becomes a lock to be a blockbuster smash hit; regardless of how crappy the actual movie is (see X3, FF4). And of course the same applies in reverse as well ( Ala Superman Returns, King Kong, Domino,).
I can just see WB suits patting themselves on the back, whooping it up and high-fiving each other after reading Harry's take on their decision.
Oh, and did someone already mention that Levy's last movie (MUSEUM) out grossed WB's Summer Tent pole of 2006 (Supes Returns) in less than one third the time it took Singer's crapfest to basically break even? Yeah? Oh, well, I just thought it merited mentioning again. -
just because he has only done mostly comedies, doesn't mean he can suprise us a bit. And to be fair, ALOT of the super hero movies have had a decent amount of comedy in them...clark kent in Superman Returns, Peter Parker, even frickin Wolverine in the X-men movies. They probably didnt want it to be as dark as say Daredevil or something.
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i gotta admit, it was the first levy film that i liked. but harry, and all you levy haters, ask yourselves this - do you have levy because he's a bad director? or do you hate him because he's directed bad movies that had a shit script to begin with?
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This guy seems to be good at making profitable kiddie movies, so he's a good choice. There has been one or two comic book movies that have been good and made for adults and that's about it. The other 20 have been sucky or made for children (and those with childlike intelligence). The money is in the "family films" so that is what will be made.
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Y'know why I love AICN? It's 'cause I can type words like "fuck" and "shit" and shit like that. Especially when it's so deserved, like now. I haven't seen any of this new-guy-Mr-Big-Shot-Night-At-the-Museum's movies, and probably won't. Except for Flash. Unfortunately, I now think that the Flash movie will be as horribly bad as X3, Catwoman, and to a lesser extent, Fantastic Four. Go ahead, WB. Take Whedon off of Wonder Woman. Go ahead and take Goyer off of Flash. Stupid fucks! Why don't you come on down to my comic shop and just piss all over the entire rack of DC Comics while you're at it? Put your nice creative decisions to work on a more visceral level. Go ahead and stain the comics yellow with your vile ideas. I do not want to see a happy-go-lucky bullshit, "comedic", half-assed, fly in the face of the original source material Flash film, dammit! And while were "talking" WB...don't ever even think about putting Jack Black in a Green Lantern outfit, you short-sighted bastards! You wanna make The Greatest American Hero, then go and make The Greatest American Hero...just don't turn Green Lantern into it. Bull Fucking Shit!!!
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Although he isn't the greatest character out there, I had some interest in seeing a Flash movie in a theater. With the direction they're going in now, I think I'll wait for the DVD or the HBO premiere. Oh well.
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...one guy jokingly says Jack Black will end up getting cast as GL and the thread goes into a tailspin for the rest of the day...
...rightfully so, though. The image of Jack Black in some kind of green spandex (or leather or whatever they'd use for the costume) would be very disturbing. -
You are spot on !
This will be another badly delivered
drag fest!
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comedies. He is a light, fun character, as he should be. Wally West is DC's Spider-Man. They should leave out the teen angst - it's overdone. There was nothing wrong with Night at the Museum, it was well made, but I avoided Pink Panther like the plague. When I think of Flash the first thing I want to see is Gorilla Grodd, not Flash crying in his beer about losing his speed as an impotency metaphor.
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Hal Jordan. He was so underused in X-Men and the most heroic in Superman Returns. However, they should cast younger. GL could be a new Star Wars franchise.
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pilot. Military brat grounded for being too much of a hotshot. Discovers alien crash site partying in the desert with friends, is handed ring and enormous responsibility without really considering it. Uses it immediately to completely show off around Earth. Just before he becomes target practice for US military gets called up by GL Corps for training in intergalactic war brewing. Won't give up the rush from the ring, so he joins up. Gets in over his head, has to go through training with other cadets, etc., big battle, learns to be a man, cue the sequel.
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He will make a safe movie. Which is not really what you need in a superhero flick, but then you risk getting a real troll like a Schumacher getting "creative" with the film, or another Johnson who wants to make a really fast Evanescence video. IS there really anyone who comes to mind when you think of the Flash?
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Warner Brothers wants to make as much money as they can on this and so they hired a bankable, albeit talentless, director. Ultimately, studios don't need to stop making comic book movies. They just need to stop making really awful ones. However, so long as people pay money to see pieces of shit, they'll think "Guess they like shit," and will run the genre into the ground. That's why it is imperitive that everyone downloads "Flash," "Ghost Rider" (you know that one's gonna blow), and all other shitty comic book movies illegally. That way you can see it, bitch about how much it sucks, but without feeding the machine. Sure they'll put on a bunch of ads about how it hurts the industry and is akin to stealing cars, but everyone knows that's bullshit. Or buy a ticket for something else and sneak into the theater. Take the money you will inevitably save and see something amazing two or three times and then buy the DVD.
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Personally, I liked all of the traditionally hated Superhero movies. Hulk was good-granted, it could've had more action/Hulk time, but it was pretty good. I think X-3 was the best X Flick ever made (1 was the dryest, 2 was good, 3 best). Fantastic Four was GREAT-all of you forget that FF was never an action-packed JLA team, it was always more about the learning to be a family aspect than the fighting-and FF2 will be even better. And Superman Returns was a great FILM; just not a good MOVIE. It had the makings of a great series though, the way they did 1, 2 should be the greatest.
And as good as a Flash starring Ryan Reynolds by the guy who did a Blade flick, I'm interested to see who they will pick for this film and how they'll do it. If they pick someone on the line of Ryan Reynolds or Dane Cook, I think the movie could be awesome.
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Geoff Johns's amazing Hawkman run. Hawkman is DC's Indiana Jones, but more pissed off. It would make The Mummy look like child's play. Oh, wait. The Mummy DOES look like child's play.
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Where did all these quasi comic geeks come from trying to make me think that at Flash movie deserves more than the Night at the Museum guy? Seriously, as ewokstew noted above, the Flash is lame. Always has been. What tremendous story arc from the comics are you nerds worried they're gonna screw up? That's what I thought. None that I know of either.
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Some people will say this character could be serious, but the thing is, this character is NO FUN serious. Besides, I want to see Gorilla Grodd. Yes, Barry sacrificed himself during Crisis, but this movie is not going to be that and should not be. Barry was only fun on a team book prior.
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at the beginning of movies I just bought. What?
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It's funny because he would be fighting against a Gorilla who is smarter than him. It makes him grow as a person, really.
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Gorilla with a laser weapon could be funny. I think you know where I'm coming from.
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I don't see a lot of comedy coming out of a guy who can run fast. He couldn't even beat Superman in a race so what good is he?
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Coolest fucking TB name ever. Ever.
Yo fucking Joe!
Do you still read? I'm a Joe fan for life it seems. Here's hoping no one in Hollywood thinks G.I. Joe would make for a great movie.
Again, great name. You made this old nerd smile. Good times. Hama was the man. -
goyer did make a turd of a film with blade trinity, but he wrote the first two blade films, which i loved, and co-wrote batman begins, which was possibly the best superhero movie ever. fuck warners!
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And he can't WAIT to slip into the red body suit for the role...
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Right. Because I'm the one that made all those mediocre movies after all, right? Or better yet, because I'm personally responsible for the combined Box Office Gross of all those mediocre movies, combined. How often I forget the extents of my great power and influence. Good thing we have you here to remind me every now and then.
On an entirely unrelated matter, did you happen to forget to take your meds again? You know how you get when you miss a dose.
It must really burn you to know that no matter how much you and Harry and the rest of the merry Lemmings here crap all over Levy, that his Flash movie is still going to make major coin at the box office. Sucks to be insignificant!
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but nothing this guy has made has any comedic value. His films are comedic deserts.
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...then it'll be fine. Wait a second....what the hell am I saying???
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= Semen on a Turd (for the record, I'm cool with the Flames thing, but not this news, nor the turd).
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I mean, is there any better psychological explanation for these asswipes being so bitchy? I think not.
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Keep Ms. Jolie away from Spandex. That's like giving Tom Cruise Captain America.
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Flash is that he's a blue-collar hero. His hometown is not gothic, or glamorous or futuristic. It's like Detroit. I'm not sure this would make for a real exciting superhero film, unless they were very deadpan about it. My guess is that they would toss that anyway and make it look like Disneyland. It's fun in the comic books, because it's not Gotham or Metropolis and Flash is very good-natured and not overly serious. But on his own, he comes across as a little Superman-lite, even down to his girlfriend the reporter.
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Anybody else with me on this? Part of what I loved years ago first kind of "growing up" as a lover and student of film was aftera while noticing the fact that director Stephen Frears really does have one diverse motherfucking resume. I mean the tone, subject matter, feel of his films are all over the map with each individual one. It's impossible to pigeon-hole him. And on the more mainstream side? Gore Verbinski, though that does not mean I imply he's weak. A studio friendly guy does not a poor director make, necessarily. I think he's a quality director. But for god's sake look at his resume, how different it is top to bottom. I'm not sure he gets all the respect he deserves.
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and ruin the story and characters.
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actually gave me rat's shit once. A big, fat, steaming pile called Batman and Robin.
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in the process of completely destroying their characters, so maybe we should wait until they get it together. No wonder they're tossing all the movies against the wall to see what sticks. I mean, this new WW script sounds 1,000 times more enjoyable and less convoluted than what is going on at DC. And Flash, aye, aye, aye, don't get me started.
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And you know I'm right.
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...Jeff Bridges has just been cast in Iron Man... which is shaping up to be a nice movie, at leas has a good cast (not sure about Paltrow, though).
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can anyone think of one cool thing that they can do with a flash movie? someone running fast isnt cinematic...i sense bullet-time in out future folks. and BSB i remember the sacrifice he made in COIE and that is the only reason why i give the character any credibility
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And now I've definitely convinced myself that DC should scrap these other single hero movies and go for the Justice League feature. Marvel has gotten TWO teams to the big screen, and DC ZERO. It's time to show the public the world's greatest heroes on the big screen. Make the first movie with the original 7 (6 if you have to leave Bats out because of licensing - I think Supes could use some better publicity after the lackluster "Returns") and then bring in new heroes ala X-Men for the later releases. Think of some of the cool secondaries we could see on the screen - Doctor Fate, Firestorm, Hawkman, Captain Atom, Phantom Stranger, you get the point! Warner Brothers, GET ON THE BALL AND GET SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR PROPERTIES!
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Flash may be a lighter character, but that doesn't mean serious things don't happen to him. The little I heard of the other movie idea was really cool...something about relativity. Ryan Reynolds would still be my idea of the best Flash, though.
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...then I daresay that you've never read the comic at all, especially the superb Mark Waid and Geoff Johns runs on the book. For instance, go and read Flash #0...I challenge anyone to read that and think of the Flash as "lame" again. And to say that the Flash is just a dude who runs fast is like saying that Superman is just a guy who flies, and Luke Skywalker is just a guy with a "laser sword". I'm not sayin' that you have to like the Flash as a character, but you have to at least know what you're talking about. Ya think I'm a big Flash fan, huh? Yep. That's why this news about Goyer being booted from the project is ludicrous.
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.......want some cheese with that whine? I've got provolone, swiss, mozarella and cheddar. Or maybe just a bib?
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for the record, i never said you were not funny, although, BSB is really dropping bombs with his lame jokes and commnets. thats what you get when you let a 12 year alone at home infront of a computer
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Steve martin as the flash? with all the CGI nip?tuck they are doing i think it could be pulled off. And then we could all thank ratner,and watch hilarity unfold as our speedy iconic hero...trips over rocks,falls into manholes,and crashes into walls!!I think it would be good for a laugh ...no? comon it would be somewhere inbetween inspector gadget and smallville...i get giddy and start to drool just thinking about it, it also might be a good idea to throw martin in a "muscle suit"They did after all make huge break throughs in FX with "the last stand""Shakin the tree boss...shakin the tree" I think WB is either trying to stir some shit up, or harry has a point with the whole "gore verbumlickenstain" theory...allthough he is not that good of a director, he was just given better material to work with then "mouse hunt" and a bigger budget. take out johhny depp from pirates...and the movies would have been a completely different entity.
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What any geeks think (and I include myself in this but one with rather less knowledge than alot of geeks). All studios want to do is make money most often by using a well known name or a lesser known name on a current them ie The Flash because comic book films are making money and it probably won't cost too much money with fx for someone running fast.They really don't care about making films that please the true geeks henceforth Superman with major characteristic changes from comics, another weak Batman film that had no action and revolved around Freeman. Hey they even fuck about with Spiderman quite alot.Did we get the best Superhero films when supposed good directors took charge. Singer - people say not. Nolan - people seem to be waking up to the fact that Batman Begins is not a good film (really doesn't make it through a second viewing). Ang Lee on The Hulk - 99% of people seem to hate it (I actually didn't mind it).The best money on these superhero films is probably made by directors who know what to put into a film in what order to get most people to watch at the cinema.It's a shame because it means you will never get the big screen film you fave superhero deserves (I know . . .I love Batman and am still waiting - apart from Mask of Phantasm, but you weren't live action so don't count in this argument)
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Take Depp out of Pirates and you have a shit film. I really only found it entertaining because of him (although haven't seen the 2nd)
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...it would be a touchstone movie for Harry. We're growing up, folks. We just don't know it. NATM was a good movie, not a fine film. It was fun. It was a blast. It was for kids. C'mon, Harry, I love THE GOONIES just like you but take a look at it with grown up eyes some time and you'll have to evoke THE LITTLE RASCALS/HARDY BOYS/ INDIANA JONES to remember what you liked about it. Levy is like Colombus, as Superninja said. He can handle FX and still tell a story. Sorry, but SUPERMAN RETURNS was crap. Talk about playing it safe while insulting the source. BATMAN BEGINS was good, but a FLASH movie like BATMAN BEGINS would be stupid.
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If they use smart-mouthed Wally West, the Flash ancestry/legacy, not delve too deep on him learning his powers, and have the enemies/allies/audience constantly underestimate him...it could work as a Spider-Man 1-like blockbuster. There'd be freakin kids in red jumpsuits running around everywhere like Daddy Day Care x 1,000,000.
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I came into Batman relatively late in life. I share probable obvious favourites in comics of Year One, DKR, and Loeb's Long Halloween and Dark Victory. IMO I didn't enjoy BB - Bale just didn't seem to strike me as Batman or Wayne. Also I am not after a total action film but the action in BB was terrible. The fight scenes were badly shot and I hated the Batmobile chase scene.So yes I must be a complete 'dickhead' for having a different opinion from most people. But my mate who saw BB with me at the cinema doesn't really know Batman at all (never read a comic) and he just couldn't fathom any excitement about it. So in your eyes he is probably a 'fucking idiot' as well. Hey look I can swear and call people names in a post as well. Ain't I cool.
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you certainly have an opinion, and of course no one is gonna make you change it, but i do disagree and i think batman begins keeps getting better every time i see it, i am a big comic book fan, and i always ask a lot when a comic book is turn into a movie. daredevil,x3,spawn, and a couple more movies i cant remember really suck, but batman begins still stands as a strong comic book movie. bring on the DARK KNIGHT!!!!
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What would you do with Flash film, Buzz?
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being really good. But in terms of making a movie, which is about visual appeal and character conflict, I am not sure what Flash has to offer to set him apart from Superman. Can anyone think of anything? My approach to the character would be lighthearted and I don't think I would bother showing his origin story because it's boring - I'd start early in his career. I would just throw you right into his popularity in a Detroit-like blue collar city where he has no challenges and is bored, so he shows off, is kind of obnoxious, Batman bans him from Gotham, Superman from Metropolis, etc., until he meets Linda Park and she won't give him the time of day (she's from Gotham or some other bigger city). Then that throws him for a loop. Finally, Gorilla Grodd comes to town and Flash doesn't take him seriously, but Grodd starts turning everyone into gorillas and Flash finally has a challenge on his hands.
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