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David Goyer is off THE FLASH movie... Wow, what's up DC?

Hey folks, Harry here... Robogeek sent me a heads up that David Goyer, via his MySpace page... has announced his departure from THE FLASH movie. That Goyer was proud of his script, makes me sad - because when David is on, like he was on his GHOST RIDER script or BATMAN BEGINS... he's firing on all pistons. Oh well, guess I'll listen to Elfman's FLASH theme and dream of the big screen FLASH eventualities...

Well, I've been waiting a few months to relate this news -- but I am sad to say that my version of The Flash is dead at WB. The God's honest truth is that WB and myself simply couldn't agree on what would make for a cool Flash film. I'm quite proud of the screenplay I turned it. I threw my heart into it and I genuinely think it would've been the basis of a ground-breaking film. But as of now, the studio is heading off in a completely different direction. I expect you'll hear of some new developments on that front shortly. But in happier news, I'll soon be able to report on what I've been doing INSTEAD of The Flash. Stay tuned.
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  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Goyer own way.

    by BobDole

    I can't improve on the subject.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Oh!

    by BobDole

    First.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

    by jslstrauss

    Whatever.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Ryab Reynolds would make a better Deadpool

    by DOGSOUP

    Than Flash anyway.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Good news because DAVID GOYER SUCKS!

    by Proman1984

    You heard me, David Goyer is the most overrated of all superhero screenwriters. And his script for Batman Begins is nothing to be proud of. Boring script for an overrated movie.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Shame. He's a good writer, at times great, and I...

    by rbatty024

    expect him to only improve with time. I wonder what was going to be so innovative and groundbreaking?

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    maybe just maybe....

    by emeraldboy

    hollywood is realising that really isnt worth the hassle making these kinds of movie. I saw the trailer for Ghostrider today with the Last king of scotland. That one is gonna tank. big time and for one reason: nicholas"elvis" cage. and it cost too much to make these novies.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:20 p.m. CST

    yeah...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...so the word seems to be that they are shelving this entire project for now... just asking, was The Flash really ever that big a property anyway? Also, does anyone think the lackluster quality of Superman Returns might have led to this decision? ...perhaps more so than anyone attached to developing a script?

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST

    WB Flash movie would star Jet Li

    by dregmobile

    I'm betting. With Joel Silver producing ...

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Maybe they saw Ghost Rider.

    by Kasch

    Just a thought. Goyer is capable writer, but only when he's filtered through better talent. Blade: Trinity, anyone?

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Like with Halo the studio just wants cheap crap

    by performingmonkey

    Halo was going to be something special but the studio just wanted a cheap crappy AvP-style movie so the talent took flight, the same has happened here I expect. In the end the studio just sees 'a video game movie' 'a comic book movie'

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    I have a fuuny feeling...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    WB looked at how Supes Returns came out and thought, "Wow, this is the biggest superhero name we own and the fans turned on the product"... (rightfully so, the story was all over the road)..."if Bryan Singer couldn't make 'em love *that* movie can *anyone* make 'em love The Flash?"...

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I always thought this would be a tough sell

    by instant_karma

    Given that most of the cool stuff he does is at a speed that the human eye cannot follow. There's only so many times you can have a guy moving freely while everyone else is stuck in place like statues before it would become boring. <p> Even if you slowed him down to the point where you'd see a red blur, the effect they'd use would probably be something like the one they use on Smallville whenever Clark runs, which I've never been very fond of. <p> Maybe this is another case of material that can only be done properly in the medium that it was created in and DC should focus on putting together a decent Green Lantern script. Now there's a property that does have great cinematic potential. But please, not as some kind of 3rd rate Mask comedy rip-off.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:48 p.m. CST

    right..

    by jimmy rabbitte

    it would be that Smallville effect or a feature length use of "bullet-time" which has been done to death.<p> ...now the Green Lantern...there's something if done properly could become a true franchise ...definitely agree with that

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:02 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with the Flash...

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Someone give that bugger ritalin...

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Wait...I thought *I* just got off the phone with Flash

    by adambalm

    Oh wait no, it's my mom. I'll put it on speaker.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 3:58 p.m. CST

    a better question is what's up with WB & comic books?

    by newc0253

    first Whedon off WW, now Goyer of the Flash. i'm not the biggest fan of Goyer (i didn't care much for Blade), but his script for Batman Begins was excellent.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:02 p.m. CST

    David goyer does not suck

    by salamimansam

    WB is fairly lame, wanting perhaps to make every super hero appeal to the teens who don't even know who these heroes are. What made Batman Begins so effective was it was not a kids movie. I am sure his flash script rocked judging by what he said about it last year.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:05 p.m. CST

    superman blew

    by salamimansam

    all that potential and perhaps the most mind-numbingly dull superhero movie ever made. I mean, 'BarbWire' had more spark than that...and that mangy, prozac performance by our new lois lane....lame lame lame. The actual superman character was great, but everything else, from the semi-retarded offspring to spacey's DULL performance....zzzzzzzzzz...sorry, fell asleep remembering it. I mean really, does the'property' really have to be 'big' to be 'worth' doing? Bring back Doc Savage. ??

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST

    We have Bryan Singer to thank for this

    by Immortal_Fish

    I suspect that jimmy rabbitte and I part ways on the details behind the reasons why, but that's one TB'er that is dead on the money.<P>The suits are likely thinking, "If Singer couldn't save Superman (#1 superhero ever and #1 ALLEGED superhero director ever), then who else can make a decent movie with any other hero?" Indeed.<P>The problem with that train of thought is that it was all of Singer's meddling that finally caught up with him, not that superhero movies are past their prime. Take Raimi's Spider-Man, for example. There is a good case of director meddling that didn't sink the property.<P>I hope that Ghost Rider will surprise folks and do alright. I doubt it will do huge numbers, but it may be turn enough profit to give the haters lesser things to gripe about, similar to FF, Hulk, and DD. And if GR does okay, WB may be a little disappointed with themselves for letting Goyer go. After all, this was the guy that brought us BB to an extent, which most fans ultimately agree that it treated the source material with respect. Then there's the whole Blade franchise. Love it or hate it, Blade was a 3-picture franchise and TV series. Quite rare. And all thanks in large part to Goyer.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:12 p.m. CST

    no...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...it doesn't *have* to be big to be worthwhile, but let's not kid ourselves about what makes Hollywood tick when the suits are deciding what to go ahead with and what to put the brakes on.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Goyer's MySpace page...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...led me to Ryan Reynolds' MySpace Page, which led me to Nathan Fillion's MySpace page, which led me to James Gunn's MySpace page which led me to Lloyd Kaufman's MySpace page. Unfortunately Kaufman only adds people that he knows. But it'S good to know that it exists :)

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Goyer's work is garbage

    by dragon-lord

    Which means he was PERFECT for a LAME take on Flash Gordon, but not even close if WB wants to do something original, fun, and exciting.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:28 p.m. CST

    The more Goyer had to do with BLADE...

    by dragon-lord

    ...the worse the franchise got. You know I'm right.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:17 p.m. CST

    thanks Immortal-Fish...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    I see your point about how good directors have the talent to guide the material. Now we just have to get the afore mentioned suits to give these directors some room to get the job done.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:31 p.m. CST

    dot dot dot

    by I Cant Believe I Actually Registered

    nick fury agent of shield was pretty sweet

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:20 p.m. CST

    DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!!!

    by Doc_Strange

    Wait, this is Warner Bros. right? DAMN YOU WARNER!!!!!

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:21 p.m. CST

    The Talkbacks are fucked up again

    by Doc_Strange

    Looks like the TB's are out of posting order again. FUCK!!

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    DC

    by Venkie007

    Someone take DC Comics outside, tie it to a tree, and shoot them, they're done. COmics are sucking hard,they're losing all their talent to Marvel, the movie properties are dying left right and centre....

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Also Blade: The Series got good...

    by Kasch

    ...AFTER Goyer stopped writing the scripts. Coincidence?

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Ghost Rider is going to tank hard

    by jimmy_009

    Mark my words.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Thnak goodness

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    Blase trinity and The Invisible. Flash is my favorite, get goyer away from it.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    On his Game with Ghost Rider ??? WTF?

    by EUROPA

    The only way Ghost Rider is going to suck harder is if Jack Black was in it and Blaze spent 45 mins fighting giant cockroaches

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 5:23 p.m. CST

    This sucks. Somebody get Geoff Johns on the phone!

    by SpyGuy

    Johns wrote a great run (pun intended) on THE FLASH for about five years and he's tight with Richard Donner. Call him NOW.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Whats the bet we get a comedy

    by Ridge

    A light hearted teen comedy about the Flash and how he uses his powers to get up to mischief instead of a serious one...

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Apples and some fruit no one's ever heard of

    by falawful-314

    Is there anyway to somehow convince the studios that "comic books" aren't exactly a "genre" anymore? Sweet Jesus, this isn't like saying, "Wow, the smash hit 'Chicago' revitalized the musical genre!" or "Huh, look how 'Casino Royale' brought the Bond franchise back to life!" Talking about how 'Superman Returns' is sinking DC's trust in their product is more like saying, "Wow, 'Silence of the Lambs' really brought movie adaptations of bestselling novels back from the dead. Let's adapt more novels for the big screen!" I mean, I get that superheroes generally fit into a category of storytelling, but what makes Superman work is going to be a far cry from what makes X-Men or 'V for Vendetta' or 'Ghost World' or (etc. etc. etc.) work as films. And all of our bullshit arguing about whether 'X3' was worse or better than 'Supreman Returns' isn't helping anything. We get fixated on which story was "truer" to the source material intead of evaluating the films as individual works of art. I personally disliked 'X3' because it broke the tone of the first two films, which I came to really appreciate. I never read any X-Men comics, so I have no idea if Singer's delicate approach or Ratner's clusterfuck was a better reflection of the X-Men comic world. But the idea that studios would look at how an X-Men film performed relative to a Superman film and conclude (as we're all speculating here) that the weightier, more sophisticated, "adult" storytelling just won't sell ... that just pisses me off. Not just because I'd rather see the "adult" take on Flash instead of the "wowee, look at all the 'splosions!!!!!!" approach, but because I'd like to think they'd stop lumping all the "comics" characters into the "Reliable Stock Characters to Bring Geeks to the Theaters No Matter Who the Fuck We Hire to Write/Direct/Produce" bin. Ugh. Maybe I'm wrong - there's a million reasons why they'd let Goyer off the project, and it's not even a bad thing necessarily. But if they throw another two-bit jack-off fresh from "Employee of the Month" or something, I'll start to think the Golden Age of superhero films we've seen from X-Men 1 & 2 and the Spider-Man series through to Batman Begins and (yeah, I'll say it) Superman Returns is coming to a crashing halt.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6:06 p.m. CST

    First Whedon, now Goyer

    by LittleDudes

    Hey Warner, fuck you! And FUCK MICHAEL BAY. I JUST OFF THE PHONE WITH your moms, she wants my Brian Cocks in her mouth again 'cause she says she's just GOTTA EAT.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6:08 p.m. CST

    DC cancelled The Boys. Fuck 'em where they breathe.

    by Horseflesh

    Not to mention for the limits they put on the JLU cartoon.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6:30 p.m. CST

    good cause we dont need no goyer flash ....

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    he sucks on dc stuff

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST

    He cant direct

    by DirkD13"

    Blade, awesme<p>Blade 2, even better<p>Blade: Trinity, utter bollocks. He can,however, write some good shit when he wants to!

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Spidey 3 should get the big comic films off the

    by ComputerGuy68

    back burners. Once they see the $$$ coming in, they will start to greenlight more projects. <p> Well as long as FF2 and Ghost Rider aren't massive bombs.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Fuck Off!

    by darquelyte

    How did this happen?

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Buncha tards' at WB without balls or brains...

    by Monkey_King

    pretty much sums it up.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Bilson and DeMeo

    by Playhouse

    I wonder if they'll put Bilson and DeMeo on the movie now. I mean, they've got the pedigree. They did the TV show in the '90s and they're writing the comics now. I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a shot at this.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 7:59 p.m. CST

    As long as Ryan Reynolds is the Flash it may be good

    by modlight

    I know he was never officially the Flash, but if you can think of a better person to play it, chime in. Shame about Goyer, I love his work, and yeah Blade 3 was no work of art, but it sure was fun.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 8:08 p.m. CST

    I agree about the potential for a GL movie.

    by Orbots Commander

    The character's powers are very cinematic and very easily done; it's all CGI. And WB already has their GL, he was in Superman Returns: James Marsden.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 8:15 p.m. CST

    First Whedon, now Goyer? THANK YOU WARNERS!

    by Karl Hungus

    Great, GREAT news! So glad these self-absorbed screwheads got the boot. Filmmakers who willingly go to Comic-Con every year should not be involved in film adaptations. Their creativity is too inbred and beholden. That's why Nolan (filmmaker first; fan second) delivered the goods with Batman Begin.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Fuck Phantom Four

    by hank quinlan

    Yeah...you know why, DG! I'd be sad for you. But screw you. Karma is a bitch. And your alien show sucked. And so did Blade the series.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Goyer did right decent comics

    by ViPete

    Read his old JSA stuff, it's not half bad.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 8:51 p.m. CST

    not sure how to edit...

    by ViPete

    but i realize i misspelled write with "right". I'm actually not a mongoloid.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 9:30 p.m. CST

    what's up at WB/DC?

    by Demosthenes2

    First Joss Whedon off Wonder Woman, now this? Who are they going to rehire, Pitof and Michael Bay?

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Marvel Dropped Goyer's Ghost Rider

    by MagicPhone

    What was so great about that Daredevil movie that they had to let Mark Stephen Johnson (is that his name? I don't know or care...) ruin another potentially great franchise? I want Ghost Rider to be a great movie, I really do, but every trailer for it I see is chock full of lame jokes referring to GR's flaming skull, as if it's something that must be apologized for.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 9:28 p.m. CST

    FLASH GOTTA EAT !!!!!!!

    by The Atomic Worm

    ...emm, his heightened metabolism demands it... yeah.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 10:44 p.m. CST

    UWE BOLL for FLASH!

    by AvengingFist

    It would be genius. AB-SO-LUTE-LY GENIUS.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Obviously Goyer didn't write The Flash gay enough.

    by bioforge

    The Smallville curse strikes again. Blade had too much guts so did Molly on Threshold (especially for a (fictional)woman). You want succes. Turn him into a fag ,lots of crying and holding hands just as long as it appeals to the PG crowd.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Flash Ohhh....Nooo!

    by Maegnarval

    It would be cool to bring in Bilson & DeMeo for the movie version! Have them read Goyer's script & if they dig it say they would film it unless Goyer is still involved. This may then Jinx the the project in a good way in that no other directors will touch it cuz it's cool that way. Sort of like with how no one will do Green Hornet, since Kevin Smith left it, cuz the studio won't buddy up to the studio that owns Lone Ranger.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST

    He's a terrible writer anyway.

    by Ash Talon

    Two things. The public doesn't care about the Flash anyway. He's got no personality. Plus powers are too out there. Goyer isn't a very good writer. Like Batman Begins but hate the over-the-top "villain tries to destroy the city" BS again? That part was Goyer. Thank him for that cliched third act. Whedon off WW would be a good thing if WW was a potential franchise. He's not a good writer (just relies on gimmicky dialogue that comes out of every character). WW would have a big opening and fade fast. She's lame. People would see here for the T&A. Otherwise, she's boring.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Good, now Reynolds might play Deadpool instead

    by TheSecondQuest

    Without oyer pushing for Ryna Reynolds as The Flash, now we'll hpefully be more likely to see him play the role he's best suited for- Deadpool (cause, let's face it, there's no one the powers that be would hire him for two different superhero characters). Besides, Deadpool is by far the more fun character of the two, and better suited to Reynolds' delivery.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Two points

    by Vern

    1. Blade <p> 2. Blade II <p> As far as Batman Begins, I like that movie but I also think it wasn't playing to Goyer's strengths. Watch that movie closely and you can see where he sets it up for badass fight scenes that never happens. For example, he's got Bruce Wayne (Batman) up on a mountain in a temple that's on fire surrounded by ninjas, who he turns on, and he has to escape. Goyer did his job there, he set up what I call the OSIO (oh shit, it's on) moment that is the backbone of all the great action movies. Nolan made a great character movie so it ultimately works, but the dude apparently doesn't do action, so he took these classic OSIO moments that would've led to unforgettable setpieces in the Blade movies and then just skipped over them. Burning temple, ninjas, and then he just slides down the mountain and it goes to the next scene. Oh well.<p> Anyway, my point is that Goyer was doing his job, give him some credit.<p> As for the Flash, I don't really give a shit about that one, but I would've watched it if Goyer did it. What I'd really like to see him do is that post-apocalyptic Blade 3 he said he was gonna do before he changed his mind and made the one everybody hates.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 3:09 a.m. CST

    FINALLY someone calls out Batman begins....

    by IndustryKiller!

    on it's directorial flaws. Too long has that movie been fucking teflon. Thank you Vern.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Blade 3= AUBS (Almost Uwe Boll Standard)

    by AvengingFist

    David Goyer sucks for the shit he did to the Great DR. W.Snipes on Blade3.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 4:18 a.m. CST

    i don't hate blade 3 completely:

    by newc0253

    just all the parts that don't have jessica biel in them.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 5:11 a.m. CST

    I love me some '70s era Flash

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Almost as much as I love the Talkbacker name "I Cant Believe I Actually Registered." The Flash was one of my favorites. Barry Allen was a cool character: not angst-ridden whatsover, Spidey wit without the girlfriend troubles, and always late picking up his wife. I read somewhere that when testing the "speed" effect for "Six Million Dollar Man," they had tried filming Lee Majors on a treadmill on the back of a truck before settling on slo-mo. Me, I'd love to see some bullet-time Flash action, some FPOV.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Burning Ninjas Give You So Much More

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Because you care about my opinion, I kinda liked Batman Begins, though I remember just about none of it. Like Vern said, I recall a lot of setup for things that never happened. As a kid who grew up on Batman, Detective Comics, World's Finest, Brave and the Bold, JLA (and even the Joker and Creeper runs!), allow me to present my list of Batman movies that weren't a major disappointment:<br><br>

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 5:37 a.m. CST

    "The Boys"

    by Venkie007

    One of the most original, hilarious. disturbing mini-series I have ver read. ANd yes, DC cancelling "The Boys" was a horrible, horrible move on their part. Here's hoping Image picks it up instead.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 8:48 a.m. CST

    BLADE 3 = waaaaay better than BLADE 2

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    B2 was a complete utter mess. A total disaster.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Ghostrider's Comedic tone maybe due to advertising.

    by MRJONZ72

    I saw a posting by Mark Stephen Johnson himself on the Super Hero Hype boards a couple of weeks ago, he pretty much said that the studio is marketing the more comedic elements, so they can hopefully get more butts in the seats. He said that the movie is a darker movie thatn what the ads let on.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Transformers FRENZY revealed http://tinyurl.com/yrxey5

    by all your base

    give him some love

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Sure, Batman Begins had crappy action...

    by rbatty024

    sequences (I'm always shocked people rip on Superman Returns' action and not BB), but it did a great job getting into the character of Batman. The first film (except for maybe the Mask of the Phantasm) was the only movie actually concerned with Batman. I blame all these WB moves on X3. Why, you ask? I think that after that movie studios think all you need is name recognition and some really fake looking action sequences. What they don't realize is that Singer had already done the heavy lifting with the first two movies so that we cared about the characters and allowed X3 to be a major blockbuster even if it sucked. Superhero movies are going the way of the horror film, where they're cheaply produced so they can make back a cheap buck. For shame Warner Brothers, for shame.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Spared the Goyer Curse - Oh Yeah!

    by Shub-Wankalot

    After suffering through the trainwreck of Blade 3, I'm happy to see that studios are more sensitive what they hand over to wannabee pseudo-director hacks like Goyer. Sanity prevails.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I wanna see Ghost Rider.

    by Cotton McKnight

    It looks good. Am I the only one?

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 11:39 a.m. CST

    This is Fantastic...read more to see why!

    by Donnie_Drunko

    It is one more person with free time in this world to start focusing in on a GYMKATA sequel. Speaking of GYMKATA, Where the HEll is the GYMKATA DVD Review??!!?! VERN I am calling you out. Mori seems to good to review this treasured GEM. So sir I leave it too you to fill this void in all the lives of the 4 GYMKATA fans waiting on this DVD review.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Donnie

    by Vern

    You know what bud, I would like to watch that movie. I can't guarantee I can do it right away or if they will run it here but at the very least I will review it on my sight one of these days. First they gotta have a copy in at the video store. then the magic will happen. thanks drunko.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Keep Bilson & DeMeo the hell away from THE FLASH movie

    by SpyGuy

    Anyone who wants these two as Goyer's replacements needs to read (or try to read) THE FLASH: THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE #1-8, some of the worst FLASH comics ever made. Geoff Johns would be a much better pick, especially if he used Zoom (Hunter Zolomon) as Wally's nemesis for the first film. Other Rogues with film potential...the Mirror Master (Evan McCullough), the Weather Wizard, Savitar, Magenta, and the Thinker (the current digital construct version) immediately spring to mind. Heat Wave and Captain Cold could be fun paired against each other with the Flash caught in the middle, but not until the fourth film or so provided the series gets that far.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 1:39 p.m. CST

    What a shame

    by MrJJonz

    No its not. Goyer seems to be massively overrated. At least people now are seeing that BB was not a good film. I couldn't believe the hype for this film when it came out. I remember how disappointed my mate and I were when we left the cinema. (My mate has no particular background knowledge of Batman and BB was bad.) <P>And why try to get 1 man to write every superhero film. Surely different writers with different angles for different characters makes more sense

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill as the Trickster!!!!!!!!

    by hadez

    What? It worked before

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 1:53 p.m. CST

    KipKinkel, don'T diss the Gilmore Girls!

    by DerLanghaarige

    I'm serious. Don't.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Thanks Vern!

    by Donnie_Drunko

    Cool man thanks. I'll keep and eye out for the review on your site as well as possibly here. I believe they made the movie back in 1985 just so you could review it in 2007. The dvd hit stores on Jan. 30th I am waiting for mine to come via postal services as we speak...eerr type. As long as I have your attention thanks for all the past reviews I find them very entertaining.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 6:14 p.m. CST

    ...here's what's up at WB...

    by genro

    As concise as I can be - Justice League is now seen as a a smarter investment than a bunch of individual flicks. Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern (which was shifted into stall a few months ago)...as Rabbitte pointed out, the Superman fiasco has made WB re-think the churn-em-out Marvel philosophy. So when Arad made some noise about a possible Avengers flick last year, he got WB's attention. It's the big concept film that sets itself apart from the glut of superhero properties. The Bats franchise will continue, but everything else is a coin toss and depends on who would get involved with the property. In other words, Jessica Biel and Joss Whedon ain't gonna get Wonder Woman greenlit. Del Toro could get Deadman made, but he's going to walk after the Oscars. And Snyder's Watchmen is all based on 300's returns. Odds are *highly* against that film. So whatever "talent-over-star-fucking" impact Batman Begins had, Superman negated it, which is why you're seeing names like Jamie Foxx being thrown about for Bats2. So the choice is either massive SPFX or massive names.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 7:20 p.m. CST

    My favorite GYMKATA moment is

    by Mace Tofu

    when he gets chased into an alleyway and they have pre powdered bars between the buildings for him to jump up and swing on just like in the Olympics...talk about a classic fight scene lol

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Hahaha Nice Mace

    by Donnie_Drunko

    That classic moment is one of mine as well. The gymnastic pommel horse located nicely in the Crazed Village was also a nice touch.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Donnie, GYMKATA was the most fun I had in a theater

    by Mace Tofu

    heckling since THE LONLEY LADY.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 7:54 p.m. CST

    whoops! That should of been The LONELY LADY

    by Mace Tofu

    for anyone brave enough to rent it lol

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 8:44 p.m. CST

    "Got me again, Flash!"

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    Greatest Flash moment ever. http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=fo_Z527cYbM The fight scene between Flash and Luthor-Braniac comes very close. To the person who says he has the gayest power ever...Depending on which Flash, he can vibrate through solid objects, speed up his fists to deliver a massive punch(es), create a whirlwind...yep...completely boring power right there. Never cared for the idea of Ryan Reynolds in the role. I always thought Jensen Ackles from Supernatural would be a good Flash.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 10:22 p.m. CST

    I'm glad...

    by hooties mcboob

    Do we really need the Flash as a movie? This was the first superhero adaptation that genuinely made me go 'ho-hum'. Put that cash into Lobo instead.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 10:41 p.m. CST

    genro... s'up at WB?

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...sometimes it's hard to face up to these facts, but that's how Hollywood is. What's unfortunate is that just because Superman Returns didn't gel together doesn't mean a good Flash film can't be done... but just try getting a studio to front the cash and you'll see how fast they can disappear. With what they'll have to pay out up front to secure top shelf talent, the numbers start to become production obstacles. In the end it's the Flash fans who lose out but the studios are willing to live with slighting them.

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Are we getting closer to when Warners.....

    by Kenny8

    ...announce that Singer is off a Superman sequel? There will be much rejoicing

  • Feb. 4, 2007, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Goyer would be great for a Kain movie.

    by bioforge

    He is about the only person in Hollywood who has a clue when it comes to making vampires with balls. As for BB in the current climate its still as good as it gets.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 12:34 a.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with the Wayans Bros...

    by hadez

    They said that as soon as they finish fucking up The Munsters, they're setting their eyes on the Flash

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Shawn Levy directing "The Flash"

    by Lighthouse

    Not a huge fan of Goyer but oh man he has to be better than this guy. Ugh!

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Is it worth doing?

    by SWR 77

    Could a Flash movie be a big hit? Does the general public know the character at all? I used to like Flash but I think he, like Green Lantern, is a little too obscure to catch on.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Green Lantern Obscure?!?

    by Abin Sur

    SWR 77, Obviously you have never heard Donovan's "Sunshine Superman," where Mr. Lantern gets multiple shout-outs. Where is YOUR psychedelic album, Barry Allen??

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Personally, I think they should re-boot Superman again

    by Snookeroo

    Dump Singer's abortion of a movie, and start all over. I'm glad that Singer had respect for the character, and tried something new. Certainly, it was better than a gay robot and giant spider storyline. But ultimately, it was horrifically boring and terribly miscast. So do it again, this time with a decent storyline (some actual action/fight scenes would be nice, eh?) Then let's have a Green Lantern and/or Green Arrow movie. New characters from the DC stables that have never had their shot. Hells bells, do a Specter movie, or even the Atom. Try something new. Oh, wait, this is Hollywood we're talking about. Never mind.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 9:01 a.m. CST

    I can't believe singer and superman are getting blamed

    by BendersShinyAss

    It appears the magic hex david goyer had on hollywood to rewrite and remake every comic book character into new film franchises, has poped. I sure as fuck hope Dark knight is nothing like Batman Begins. I'm sorry David, for all it's praise, it is a horrible film. I say this out of love

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST

    The replacement writer and director is

    by emeraldboy

    Shawn Levy. Now before the fan boys start to choose thier clubs and pick axe handle. I went to Night at the Mueseum. I know how hated that film is by some if not many but saw it and I liked. I thought it was very entertaining movie. I want to further add something else too. People are entitled to thier opinions. one of the reasons I hate IMdb. Every message on that site is like a mini clique. try and say anything critical about supergirl and you will get living tar kicked out of you. There are some who are now putting thier head above the parapit and say now how awful the film. But to berate and bully someone who doesnt like a film that someone else does is wrong. Despite the fact I think re-doing the pink panther is scariligious. The idea of sequel is horrible. I think the cycle of comic book movies is coming to an end. Hence the fact that thse DC movies are being dumped.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST

    warners to announce they are replacing singer with

    by emeraldboy

    Schumacjer. If that happens singer bahsers will not be so quick to bash singer in the future. Burton could do it. If TF is a success Bay could be a good bet.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Rabbitte...

    by genro

    You're right about the numbers..and anyone thinking Levy will get this movie made might as well buy a ticket for Snyder's Watchmen tomorrow. In other words, these flicks are kept in pre-production so the big bosses can show a full slate to the shareholders - "look, we're making movies"!. But it doesn't mean anyone's being cut a check.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 10 a.m. CST

    Shawn Levy? CRAP!!! At least it wasn't Michael Bay...

    by SpyGuy

    And anyone who thinks the ability to beat the holy crap out of somebody with over 900 punches before they can even blink is gay...is automatically gayer than gay.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 10:17 a.m. CST

    I cannot think of a worse job

    by emeraldboy

    being a filmmaker. The pressure must be huge. You start off Indy and then slowly you get lured into the studio system. This site starts of feteing you as cool and then once you become a player, this site targets you and goes out thier way to dump on you from a great height, querying your sexuality amongst other things, calling you a hack etc. I couldnt imagine a worse job then to be a filmmaker. Edgar wright will in time get the same treatment. at the moment he is being treated as cool by this site. one fuck up is all it will take. He will sign a big deal with a movie studio that film will bomb and he will be tarred. and from then on him and his films will be personae no grata. it always happens.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't be at all surprised...

    by Childe Roland

    ...in the wake of the lukewarm reception Superman Returns received, to see DC stall or shelve all of its other character flicks and focus on the ol' one-hero-at-a-time approach. Batman seems to be doing well now. They can cross promote the ever-loving fuck out of that until the movies come to a logical, symmetrical conclusion (I'd prefer they keep it a trilogy) or until someone comes along and suck out all the feeling for a fourth or fifth installment. Has anyone heard anything on Superman Returns Again or whatever Singer's calling his planned sequel?

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    WB's DC development seems to be an all or nothing deal

    by lettersoftransit

    Either they fuck with you endlessly and second guess you in a roomful of people who can't agree with each other, let alone you. OR they surrender all right to have input and just let you do whatever you want. The middle ground of giving a filmmaker useful notes and insight seems to be unachievable. Goyer and others get too much help, and Singer gets too little (how many millions more do you suppose that picture would have earned from middle america if they'd had the sense to put in one line about Lois and Supes having some sort of Kryptonian quasi-marriage so it didn't have to come off as just some one night fuckfest?

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST

    You know, letters...

    by Childe Roland

    ...of all the many problems SUperman Returns had, the fact that Supes and Lois weren't married when they bumped uglies really isn't one of them. Heck, the violations of the film's own logic and physical laws were far more distracting than any possible moral ramifications of a hybrid baby being born out of wedlock. How many alien invasion movies do you need to see before you understand: The aliens aren't about commitment. They're here to impregnate our women and then fly back off into space without a care in the world. Stupid lucky aliens.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Flash not a viable or interesting character?

    by Immortal_Fish

    His powers are lame? Why, because Superman can do many of the same things and then some? If speed force leaves people disinterested, then why is it that DC, Marvel, and all the rest tend to have several such characters in their roster?<P>Something that goes overlooked by many -- Unlike most heroes, here you also have at least four major variants to run with instead of only one. Don't like Barry Allen? Then pick Wally West or another Flash. Few superheroes have such an option, such as Green Lantern.<P>The Flash is a character with a rich and diverse history that has been around since the 40's. He's found his way into all forms of media since. Someone's gotta at least recognize him if not like him. YOU may not like the character, but your own interests likely diverge from the mass appeal. And that's a healthy thing.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Goyer's script kept calling Impulse "Flash"

    by BitterMan23

    so WB thought he was deranged and fired him

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 6:06 p.m. CST

    GREEN LANTERN

    by DonLogan

    first off, I'm English and I'd say 95% of the UK poulation has no idea who the green lantern is. Of course they know Superman, Spiderman & Batman. Because of the TV show most already knew The Hulk, a few others too maybe like Captain America, X-Men, F4, Iron Man, but to say The original line up Of the JLA is as well known as most of Marvel's characters is bollocks, not around the world in any case. However i'd like to see a Green Lantern movie done properly myself. I really like the idea of the first one introducing that alien chap and him handing the ring over to Hal Jordan and then any sequels focusing on the others, Guy Gardener would be really interesting to show on film with his personality and how it clashes with Hal Jordan. Maybe a reason why it won't make the screen as a 'serious' movie is the basic premise, i think it would be quite difficult to show this stuff in cinemas and expect people to take any of it seriously. I mean, they had to change the X Men's suits to just black leather numbers, even Superman's cape was made less red so he looked a bit cooler and less Gay.Try explaing to someone who knows very little about comic books the Green Lantern. He does sound a bit rubbish. He's got a Lantern. Nice one. (did i mention it was Green?) I'd like to see a flash movie too but it's pretty frickin certain that they'll get it wrong.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST

    No loss.

    by superninja

    He's on a ton of superhero films, and I don't picture him doing a more lighthearted film which is what Flash should be. In fact, I'm not sure there is a way to do Flash other than campy. He's just not a serious character. When I think of a Flash movie, the first thing I want to see is Gorilla Grodd.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern could essentially be Star Wars

    by superninja

    all over again in the hands of a smart group of people. And by Star Wars, I mean the Original Trilogy. But that won't happen.

  • Feb. 5, 2007, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Or, maybe WB wants someone that will take it to

    by superninja

    the next level and not write more dark, angsty superhero films that underperform?

  • Feb. 10, 2007, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Ryan Reynolds says

    by Maegnarval

    He would play FLASH, if it was the Wally West character & not Barry Allen. This even though he claims to not be officially on the project. This was mentioned over at Latino Review.

  • Feb. 17, 2007, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Just worried

    by Gremlin517

    I'm just worried that this means that Warner Brothers is going to do one of their stupid, middle-of-the-road, mildly funny, movies that has very little to avtually do with the character as he is known to fans. Take Under-stupid-what the heck were they thinking-dog. This is the kind of crap that they should abort at the very early stages of the game. For insance, SmallVille should never have made it past the talking stage...