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re: That JJ ABRAMS off the STAR TREK movie Rumor
Hey folks, Harry here... 2 days ago I got sent a "SCOOP: JJ ABRAMS IS OFF STAR TREK MOVIE" rumor. Well, thanks to my interview with JJ back around the time of MI3 that I did for Penthouse, I had JJ's contact info and sent his Blackberry a, "Is this BS or not" email. JJ wrote back in about 20 minutes with a one word response, 'False!" - I then wrote him back to say, "Well, heads up, somebody is trying to spread that rumor." - I then wrote the scooper back to say JJ says it ain't so. Shortly later, JJ responded with, "Haha!" Now today, LatinoReview is running the rumor, pending checking up on it - and I'm getting emails from folks wanting to give us the heads up. Well - It is BULLSHIT! No truth to it. JJ says so.
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WOOOHOOOO
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Just so as long as the Matt Damon casting rumor ISNT true. I dont think i could handle him as the one and only Captain Kirk.
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I nearly tore off my vulcan ears in rage and took my thumb out of my ass! ...almost. Pfft. Who cares.
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I'm telling you Jake Gylananhell and Heath Ledger. Fanfic is go!
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I'm sorry but if he's not in Boston or a digital cartoon character, he's not news.
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Should I believe Harry? Mmmmmm, oh, uh, yeah, Harry said for months that X-Men:The Last Stand sucked and was a terrible movie. Godzilla was awesome, and Armaggedon is pure bliss. Yeah, got it, Harry doesn't know shit, and he thinks he's an insider and got contacts, but, well yeah, that's also shit. And one that comes from a bull, no less.
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Thank God Abrams is still on.
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"Jack AbramsOff" scandal. Ney?
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Can't wait for the JJ Evans version of Trek!
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Haven't felt such a juxtaposition of Intense Joy followed by Intense Disappointment since that girl agreed to have sex with me only if I sucked her cock first.
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Well, at least don't let Damon and Carlton slack off.
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He's still on Rush Hour 3.
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I asked him "omg! what r u doing 4 next film?" He wrote back, "lol sumthin based on vidgame"
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'I then wrote the scooper back to say JJ says it ain't so. Shortly later, JJ responded with, "Haha!"'
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Damn you Err, I'm flipping you the bird so hard right now.
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if you're looking to dodge some chick's calls. Otherwise amongst my buddies nobody texts each other. It's strictly for dodging calls and not wanting to talk to someone. Plus, did you ever notice that women are heavy text users? Why is that so? I was never a big phone-chat guy, but even more not into text messaging.
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'I then wrote the scooper back to say JJ says it ain't so. Shortly later, JJ responded with, "Haha!"' - and that's the kind of linear storytelling we can look forward to on any Harry-involved production.
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Frankly I don't want to see someone else playing Kirk and Spock. It just can't be done. I have to say this whole debacle is going to be the nail in the coffin. You heard it here first.
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You smoke when you shoot the bird!
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Is dodging calls from girls really something you have to worry all that much about? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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what a fuckin waste of time.
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Is it going to be as kraptastic as that screenplay that Abrams - or those 1,000 monkeys - cranked out for Superman? And in response, will the studio go nuts and hire Bryan Singer and the Wonder Twins to produce the reboot of Trek all metro'ized with all the quality concern going towards making the most to-die-for Starfleet uniforms eva? Pfff... just hire either JMS or RDM to do this reboot, and hire Gerard Butler for Scotty.
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Other titles considered for this update were:<p> I can blackberry JJ Abrams<p> Some news I discovered was not true<p> Test<p> This just in from our 'pointless information' desk in Washington...<p> My girlfriend likes nachos<p> I have a girlfriend<p> My ego gotta eat<p>
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No offense meant, but just like any other job situation where someone has been taken off a high profile project (or even been fired outright) pretty much the FIRST thing that people will always do is deny it and claim its just a rumor, all to buy themselves some breathing room while they try to shift onto a new project (or find a whole new job) to save some personal face -- not to mention (and just as importantly) buy themselves some time to put out their own version about what "really happened" (ie. spin doctor it to their own advantage). And speaking as someone who lives and works out in LA and La-la-land, let me assure you creative egos out here get bruised at the drop of a hat and the spin doctoring flies so fast and furious you have to carry an umbrella at all times just to avoid the ever-flying bullshit.<p>So is JJ still on TREK? I'll assume so simply because Hollywood rumors are notoriously false for the most part and people out here love to spread shit simply for the sake of spreading shit. Seriously, to anyone who has never lived or worked here, this is one SERIOUSLY mean-spirited town with some pretty mean-spirited fucks, and any chance to tear down another person, for any reason at all, is standard operating procedure. So until I see official word of JJ's departure in VARITEY or HOLLYWOOD REPORTER, I'll assume the project is still moving forward with him attached.<p>On the flip side, and with no offense meant to Harry (but as a friendly, joking nudge) I find it a bit ironic and funny that Harry is so quick to post this as a "false rumor" (versus other sites who are still going with it) considering that we had to find out Harry was OFF the JOHN CARTER OF MARS project well after the fact -- mind you, a project he clearly loved and raved and raved about -- NOT at his own web site and here at AICN, but through the mainstream Hollywood press when IT announced that Paramount had let the CARTER deal lapse and Disney picked it up sans any of its creative personnel, choosing to boot everyone and simply start fresh. Which as I said I find ironic and a bit funny since -- to the best of my knowledge and I apologize profusely IF I'm wrong about this -- here at AICN we never got an actual explanation regarding "what" happened behind the scenes with JOHN CARTER and WHY Paramount ultimately chose to pass, WHAT problems they had with it, WHAT meetings took place, WHO was there, WHO said what, WHO lost faith in it and at what point...etc, etc, etc. Which seems funny to me since isn't that the whole POINT of this site? To kick open those doors and reveal those very behind the scenes things? Yet here Harry had a front row seat to the whole shebang and we heard a peep. So for fun...now that the deal is dead...I'd certainly like Harry to still put together a column about the whole CARTER development process -- what happened, who said what, and spill a few beans. Well, unless the unspoken truth here is that he doesn't want to piss off Paramount by saying "Yeah, this is what Mr Dick (insert suit's name here) said at Meeting X, and that's when we pretty much knew the project was in the shitter." Personally, being a HUGE lifelong JOHN CARTER fan...as well as a lover of Hollywood lore and backstage trivia...I'd love to hear EXACTLY why Carter died at Paramount, even if it is just Harry naming names and saying "Guy X was a total dick and then Guy Y said this, so Guy Z said he wouldn't write us any more checks."<p> Which brings us full circle to my initial point that people more often than not DON'T initially tell the truth and DON'T admit that they've been taken off a project while they're trying to re-shift themselves onto other things, onto new jobs -- at which point they can then put on that classic face face of saying "Ohhhh, did I forget to tell you that deal I raved and raved about was dead? (shifting eyes back and forth) Yeah, yeah, that died, but it's no big deal. No, no, I didn't really care about it anymore -- in fact now that its dead my life is better for it. Yeah, who needed THAT deal? In fact, let me tell you about the BIGGER deal I'm onto now."<p>Trust me, statistically speaking, that is pretty much how every other conversation goes out here in Hollywood...
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Abrams' SUPERMAN script was one of the most painful things I've ever read. He should stick to his own original creations...or, you know, things that some up 'n' comer creates and he then just slaps his name on. He should stay away from classic franchises. Oh, and yeah, based on Harry's report, it sounds like Abrams himself was spreading this rumor. WTF?
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wasn't that Star Trek: Insurrection? no wait, wasn't that Enterprise? no wait, wasn't that Voyager? .. the coffin has enough nails, question is: is JJ Abrams the crowbar?
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BITCHES!
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Frankly, I'd love to see a new TREK -- a great, big budgeted screen adventure complete with some worthy stars, a worthy story, top flight effects, all taking place on a new kick ass Enterprise out kicking alien butt...<p>...But why do this with a (new) Young Kirk? Seriously, what the fuck? I REALLY don't get this concept at all, other than Paramount being whore-meisters hoping it can milk the cow one more time. If you want to see a Young Kirk then watch the freakin' first season of TOS where Shatner WAS young. For crying out loud the whole point of the TOS is that its ABOUT Kirk's first 5-year mission. Its ABOUT Kirk being a lightning rod because its repeated over and over that he's the YOUNGEST captain EVER in Starfleet's history.<s>So bottom line: why do I care about someone who's NOT Shatner going to the academy? Oh boy! Just what I want to see! A NON-Shat NOT kicking ass on the bridge of the Enterprise. And if Abrams IS going to put this new, young non-actor on the Enterprise, we've come fill circle to my point -- namely TOS is ABOUT showing Kirk on his first, learning voyages aboard the Enterpise.<p>Seriously, this project has "fucked up beyond all comprehension" stamped all over it. An as others have noted, given how much LOST and ALIAS actually lost their ways under Abrams' watch... given how unexciting I found MI:3 to be... and given how much I thought Abrams' concepts for rebooting SUPERMAN were utter crap, I really don't hold out much hope here for his "reenvisioning" the start of Kirk's career.
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I agree that replacing Kirk is a bad idea. It's like replacing the guns in ET with digital walkie-talkies. Would have been better to put the story further back in time write it about either Captain Pike or Captain April. Personally, I'd prefer Captain Robert April since we know almost nothing about him.....and he WAS the first captain of the original Enterprise.
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But I don't think JJ is messing around with Harry. I bet JJ doesn't even know he's off it yet.
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Bob Guccione gotta eat.
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That Rob Zombie is dead...... If enough of us say it, maybe it will come true.......
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He saw The Bourne Identity and thinks Damon could be okay. However, his first preference is still Steven Segal.
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I mean it is what it is. If the source is unverified, and if Abrams himself denies it, then I'm going to take Abrams' word for it for the time being. If Abrams is lying, I suppose we'll find out sooner rather than later.
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He admitted that going back to the Kirk/Spock well when there's such a vast Trek universe smacks of desperation and creative bankruptcy. You heard it here first, the title will be Star Trek XI: We Got Nuthin'
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i love star trek, but i doubt some "flavor of the month" writter/producer/director will be able to re energized this franchise
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Star Trek XI- TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.... Spock destroys the academy with his GPA (if there is one) and Kirk destroys vaginas with his powers of Penis.... The guys after Kirk feel like they're throwing a hot dog down a hallway when then bang his chicks....
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Mmmm...tasty <br>Abrams won't pull this off.
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HEll NO, The HALO Stays On!-"Now given what I've heard from some who have been involved in this project briefly - getting away from FOX was a very good thing. Fact is - right now - every studio in town is trying to hop in bed on this project and rightfully so. Microsoft and Bungie say that everybody is still moving forward on the project. Ultimately - at the end of the day, Fox and Universal just seriously lost out on a new franchise. Wherever this ends up, it's just escaped Fox. That's something to be greatly happy for." That's straight from the Knowles and he's in the know!
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I don't mind Abrams, but I am not digging his vision for the Star Trek universe. This Academy idea is awful. Why not have the Enterprise warp into the middle of some extradimensional war or something cool like that? Have the new Enterprise captain be Kirk-like while not being James Kirk.
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I'm no Don Juan Demarco, but I've found myself in instances, after a night of sex, I've been dumb enough to say, "I'll call you..." when not really meaning it. That would result in the phone call dodging. I can admit it: I'm a commitment-phobe.
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The destruction of the Federation, Section 31, time cops from the future, anything that doesn't involve rehashing everything. But no, we're empty.
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where the main characters are good guys rebelling against the evil Federation. Anything but another reimagining.
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but did anyone else hear the news today about the 7th Potter novel? Seems it's coming out on 7-21-07. Just thought you'd want to know...
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This is from the official STAR TREK site: 01.11.2007 Abrams: First Draft Done J.J. Abrams said this week that a draft of the new Star Trek movie is done, and that some trimming to the script will soon ensue. In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Abrams was still mum on the details of the plot of the film currently referred to as "Star Trek XI." But he assured that it is designed for both established fans and newcomers to the franchise. ''On the one hand, for people who love Star Trek, the fix that they will get will be really satisfying,'' Abrams said. ''For people who've never seen it or know it vaguely, I think they will enjoy it equally, because the movie does not require you to know anything about Star Trek. I would actually prefer [that] people don't know the series, because I feel like they will come to it with an open mind.'' Abrams spoke to the magazine in New York last weekend while taking part in the New York Times Arts & Leisure Weekend. The script is being developed by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who worked with Abrams on "Mission: Impossible III," and prior to that, Alias. Besides Abrams, the project is being produced by Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. There is still no official word on casting or a director, though talk has been very strong that Abrams will direct himself. Abrams further told EW that he is very anxious to move forward. ''I can't wait to do this,'' he said. ''It is an absolute thrill to work on this project. We really are still like, 'How the hell are we able to do this?''' See the full article at this EW.com link. "Star Trek XI" is targeted for release in 2008, and filming is expected to start this year.
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Bryan Singer would be better for this franchisee than J.J.
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And she said I'm special.
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Seriously, folks: fresh eyes are usually quite good for the franchise. See also: Ira Behr and Ron D Moore, Nick Meyer, and Harve Bennett. Even if this is bad, it'll still be interesting, and will at least keep the Trek torch burning a while longer.
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As much as I'm looking forward to this film, i just don't think it'll truely be star trek. Trek is linear and not something that is 're-make-able'
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If JJ Abrams is really off, here are three options.<P>1. Sit down with John Milius and the ROME people. If they can inject new life into the Swords and Sandals genre, why not Trek?<P>2. It’ll cost a pretty penny, but the other option is to snag James Cameron before he’s too deep into AVATAR. He is the guy who wanted the Spidey franchise. Imagine what he would do with Trek.<P>3. If you want to go heavy on the drama and relationships, hire Clint Eastwood to direct. Let him bring his MILLION DOLLAR BABY, UNFORGIVEN thing to Trek. Another plus is Eastwood gets it done quickly. He’ll have the thing in the can one year flat.
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was when Trek started, so how's he going to play a young Kirk? <p>The problem with this isn't the new blood, that's obviously a good thing. What sucks is that with all the areas of the Trek universe they could explore, they have to rehash the olden days. If it follows established canon, they'll make continuity errors. If they reboot with their own canon then fans will hate it. It's just a bad idea.</p>
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What in the world makes you think Milius, Cameron or Eastwood would be interested in taking on the 11th Star trek film? Or did I just not get the joke?
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Rick Berman used to always say that he was making his trek films for 'non fans'. Now abrams is saying the same thing. But he elaborates that established trek fans will get a nice surprise. Berman used to say this also. I'm starting to think these guys are just puppets for the real trek destructors. Remember how Berman would always sprout off about how the new trek film will cater to the non fan. Well I am a fan and I say FUCK the non fan. Trying to suck the balls of the non fans has just aliented the established fan base of star trek and it has lead to the most lack luster films and half arsed tv series & episodes. back in the day, Star trek was an outlet for sci-fi writers. The only requirements were to utylise the established characters and universe. That doesn't happen anymore, and hasn't since the 6th season of the next generation. Seriosuly, you want a star trek creative consultant? give me a call
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He thinks he may have wet himself...
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Rob Zombie's dead!
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write a trek movie full of spock/sarek flashbacks??
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Let's take a look at recent sci-fi films that aren't based on comic books and don't have lightsabers. Serenity, The Island, Deja Vu, The Fountain...Children of Men is somewhat sci-fi and did somewhat well. The point is, without a built in fan base, sci-fi movies generally flop. Even with the fans, Trek 10 ate it. <p>And for people doubting the wisdom of the internet geeks, the script for Trek 10 was leaked months ahead of time and all the nerds said it would tank and it did. </p>
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http://tinyurl.com/2gnxmh
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after a day of arguing with some Dimension execs he went home sobbing,put on a brown Shatner mask,reread his own script,and in the proverbial "moment of clarity"hung himself.He was found with a run-over,not-quite-dead weasel dangling from his cheadle.
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All they had to do to make trek 10 great was to have patrick steward play his evil clone. And instead of the remans, have the romulans with a true old style romulan war bird.
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...the caliber of talent required for this enterprise IMHO.<P>Would those guys in particular want to do it? Who knows. As always with any such film project, it all depends on two magic words -- "the offer."
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This horse has been flogged once too many times. Let it die in peace.
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This is the the JJ ABRAMS off the STAR TREK movie Rumor. I don't think we've met.
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The reason why Star Trek is dead in cinema is because of INSURRECTION and NEMESIS. had NEMESIS actually been an enjoyable movie, they would surely still be going, despite the death of Data (they may have even made a Search for Data to follow it up, since Nemesis was a lot like Wrath of Khan). The idea of Patrick Stewart actually playing his own clone did not once occur to me and it is a great idea. I would have preferred that by far. More interesting. Yet ATTACK OF THE CLONES had opened earlier that year and I'm guessing they didn't go in that direction because of the comparison. hard to believe NEMESIS made less than half the money (after adjusting for inflation) that THE FINAL FRONTIER did. but in my opinion it's a worse film than FINAL FRONTIER. <br> <br> JJ did a pretty good job with M:I:III so he is the safest bet for TREK XI imo.
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That was almost good news until it had to be false.
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Feb. 2, 2007, 1:05 a.m. CST
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Glad to know the reboot idea is eating shit now. Can't wait for Kirk, played by the god-like William Shatner, to return where he belongs. Trek isn't done, it just needed the right creative blood and passion held by Harve Bennett and Nic Meyers. Glad to see Rick Berman's name is officially MUD. Looking forward to this lots.
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So erase all that happened in TNG and all the possibilities to be able make a good movie. Leave the Enterprise with Retard data and never show Q on the big screen, or that alien parasite that left the signal at the end And what ever happened to Wesley Crusher. lets just do a reboot w/ Matt Damon.
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maybe he just says its false because he wants us to think its false and the internet will get all excited about him doing star trek when hes already been fired to make paramount worry when we find out hes really been fired we wont go to the movie after the movie is already done.
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According to my trusty Trek encyclopedia, Pike commanded two five-year missions before leaving the Enterprise and Kirk took over. This movie could be about that and Kirk's first mission as captain. We could also see Kirk's early days rising through the ranks, but that would probably be cheesy.
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Plus, Star Trek blows.
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I give up.I really do.Never has there been a greater example of seriously misunderstanding quite what made Trek so popular in the first place.It fucking makes my blood boil,I tell ya.If JJ Abrams has any fucking talent whatsoever then write a new Next Gen film to re-energize the whole shebang.Jesus,I'd even understand going with a new Enterprise and crew.Quite why they think the cinema is the place to introduce a new crew or re-casted bunch of fuck monkeys,I don't know.Christ,Next Gen had a few dicky episodes but I'll any Wesley fucking Crusher show over some other arsehole playing Kirk.They just don't know what to do at all.Idiots.Trek has been Paramounts whore for decades,giving her a facelift to get more tricks is one thing-at least she still has the personality to charm.Killing her and replacing her with someone else and calling her the same name doesn't take into account I may not get turned on by the stupid bitch.Fuck it,I'll stay with my dvds and just wish that Nemesis hadn't killed Data as it kinda meant filmakers would have to ignore it or spend $40 million resurrecting him.Fucking Pararmount.JJ abrams?Christ's sake get Picard back on the screen.Fucking hell...
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With cast consisting entirely of little people... that's pretty much the only thing they haven't tried and failed with so far...
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I could be wrong but I don't think anyone directly involved in the production has said this is definitely about Kirk and Spock. I know the Shat has been saying things along those lines but that guy has a habit of just talking out of his ass.<p>I know the poster has the old Command/Science shirt colors with the Enterprise logo, but that could very well be either of the captains that came before Kirk on the Enterprise. Although I think if that's the case Spock and Scotty would have to be in it. I don't know that Kirk is definitely going to be in this.
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ENTERPRISE was bad enough; shitting on all the past work of other writers and destroying Star Trek continuity. Now they persist on dredging up more bad ideas to go back to the past instead of moving past Star Trek: Voyager and setting up original stories that go beyond that time line. It's not that damn hard to do it!
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if JJ's new script is BORING??? He seems to be a reliable chap with a strong vocabulary.
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Star Trek is so easy...even a Caveman could do it...
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Anyway I was like "JJ BDDY THS PPL SCK." And he was all "YEAH I KNW. EVRYN SCKS BT US BDDY." And I said "HA HA." and he said "WTF GT 2 EAT!" And I said "HA HA." and he said "PLEAS STP TXTNG ME."
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http://tinyurl.com/39aayf
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The best way forward for Trek would be to do a new series based on the adventures of the USS Titan, with Captain Riker, Im sure Frakes & Sirtis wouldnt mind the work. Plus guest appearances from TNG,DS9 & VOY characters could be good. The Novels of Titan is not that bad either.
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everytime you see that Geico commercial, think of this update.
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How did this happen?
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so does spock for that matter!!
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TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
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I'm not gonna be a prick and dish out copious amounts of star trek hating bullshit, I just genuinely, honest to god do not understand the appeal of this show to anyone. I've made an attempt at a few movies, and at least a few episodes of every series.But sweet jesus it is so cheesy. Someone please help me.
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