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THE GRINCH WHO STOLE CHRISTMAS
Wellllll.... Hmmmmmmm.... Ya know.... Weird.... When reading over this report (which is basically echoed throughout the New York area (seems a flyer... or audition papers hit the street) well... It looks like they're casting up the folks of WHOVILLE... and well... From the report there are changes... and it seems that there is an 'angle' on the story, but ya know... I just don't know. I love DR SEUSS.... I love his books and illustrations.... I love the animated specials.... and I would love to see that stuff rendered in the real world. And from my brief talk with Mr Howard a week or two ago... it seems he wants to really create a world to throw these characters into. Though not owning ILM seems to be a problem he seemed to be hinting at a couple of times. Well... here's the report... let's see what you folks have to think about it...
Once again, I have been lucky enuff to stumble across some audition-related
goodies, this time from the Imagine Entertainment live-action production of
HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS.
From the info supplied to actors auditioning...Jimbo Carrey stars....Ron
Howard directs...Brian Grazer (of course) produces....Script is by Jeffrey
Price (no credits available on the IMDB) and Peter Seaman (The Wild Wild
West,
Doc Hollywood, and Who Framed Roger Rabbit?)....Shooting begins in August in
Los Angeles....
Film breakdown includes "This will be a live-action film, and will require
all
actors to wear prosthetic make-up and costumes that will be designed by RICK
BAKER. We are particularly looking for performers with strong physical
abilities, like dance or pantomime or acrobatics, as movement will be an
important aspect of the characters....Think Cirque du Soleil or (Broadway's)
The Lion King."
Interesting eh? The prosthetics sound like something better-suited to the
Jim
Henson effects people than Rick Baker. Not that Mr. Baker isn't fully
capable...but I digress...onto the cast listing...
Carrey is the Grinch, obviously, but the Who-Ville residents are listed as
follows:
CINDY LOU-WHO: 6-8 years old, going on 30. Cindy is sensitive, smart and
serious. She is very happy to have been adopted by such loving and good
parents. (Info adds that they are looking for twins, but will consider
individual girls. Interesting that they are throwing in the "adopted"
gimmick.)
MR. MAY-WHO: Late 30s to early 40s. The CEO of a Who-Ville Company. Wealthy,
successful and arrogant.
LOU LOU-WHO: Cindy's loving dad. Mid 30's.
BETTY LOU-WHO: Cindy's mom.
GRAMPS LOU-WHO: 60s to 70s. A too-good-to-be-true who. A Pops Walton type.
Cindy's grandpa.
MARTHA WHO-ART MAY-WHO: Mid 30s. Wife of MR. MAY-WHO.
DOCTOR: The Who-Ville doctor.
STU LOU-WHO: 18-20. A callow youth who works at the post office.
DREW LOU-WHO: 15 year old brother of Cindy.
The one-page of script I read took place in the Who-Ville "toy store". A
little girl asks Cindy Lou what doll she wants for Christmas, and Cindy Lou
answers that she doesnt want any doll, and that "They've been so generous as
it is...you know...letting me live with them and all, feeding me..." The two
girls walk to the town square where the GIANT PINE TREE is being strung with
lights. Cindy then continues "I suppose if they were my real parents...I'd
ask
them to please make a contribution to a charity in my name...." The little
girl says "I don't understand a word you're saying." To which Cindy replies,
"How could you? You're not an orphan."
That's all I have....seems very exciting though. Carrey underneath mounds of
Rick Baker green-faced prosthetics. Will the Grinch have a smooth or hairy
face? How much will the design mimic the Seuss books and the now-legendary
animated holiday special. How about Max? Real doggie? Or will the ILM people
be called to save the day?!?! And if you're at all familiar with the Cirque
du
Soleil, then you know how natural that world would fuse with that of Dr.
Seuss.
In any case, this could very well be one of the year 2000's most exciting
projects.
---WAMO
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I'm glad I got on here at 8:00 am so I could be 1st to Talk Back. This movie will rule, as long as its not all blue screen like last night's Alice In Wonnderland TVmovie.
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Of course there will have to be an 'angle' on the story - Opie has to find a way to turn a 30 minute animated holiday special into a 2 hour, big-budget, live-action, Jim Carrey starring holiday tentpole. I'm sure there will be some changes that we may or may not like. We'll see...
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This looks like Ron Howard is heading into Tim Burton territory. I can't imagine what this will say that the animated Christmas cartoon hasn't already. This one sounds like another Hollywood film thought up in committee. I like Ron Howard, but I don't see the point. Jim Carrey should probably keep exploring his persona a little more, like in films like Man on the Moon and The Truman Show, and not this one. Oh, yeah, since all the TalkBacks have to have the obligatory foul language to be responded to nowadays: FUCK! SHIT! THEY ALL SUCK ASSHOLE! There.
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How in the world do you turn a fifteen to twenty page children's book into a (probably) 90 minute movie? Ask Price and Seaman (they co-adapted Who Framed Roger Rabbit)... The answer is, Pad that sucker until it can't feel the blows. I just hope this project is still recognizable after all is said and done. "I will not do it, Sam you knave. I busy spinning in my grave."
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Smells like, BULLSHIT. Jim Carrey goes to the bathroom and its on ET or E. Who honestly thinks he has signed a deal or is in negotiations to do this. It doesnt fall into the Ron Howard movie mold either. Oppie Cunningham is an ensemble cast kind of movie guy. I cant se him doing a Jim Carrey show case movie. Besides the grinch is fine as it is now. A classic animated holiday staple. who needs hollywood f'ing that up??
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The only movie in history that could possibly be more stupid than this one, is the live-action Rocky and Bullwinkle. This movie will launch whole new catergories of badness. All other movies will move up one notch on a scale of one-to-ten, as this movie takes it's place at the bottom. Movie Critics will search for hours through their dictionaries as they look in vain for words that will come close to empress how stupid this movie is, and what a bad idea it was to even consider making it. I'm not afraid of the Y2K bug; it's things like this that show me society is doomed to failure in the near future.
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Why on earth would they do this? The cartoon was nearly perfect. This upcoming bomb is headed directly for "Santa Claus: The Movie" territory -- a wanna-be Christmas classic that sort of fades away into a chilly North Pole of lameness.
And haven't we already seen Jim Carrey underneath mounds of green makeup -- TWICE?
And I love how they sort of lump "The Lion King" and "Cirque De Soleil" together, two theatrical events that are amazing because they're THEATER and not MOVIES.
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as if Hollywood was saying "yes look mom, I really DO have my head up my ass!" you'd think they would have learned by now after the Flintstones live action movie and all those comic book related movies. A-NEEE-MAY-SHUN is not, should not and never will be LIVE-ACTION. Hollywood needs to grow a brain, JIM CARRY as the Grinch??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA My god, what a suckfest this will be.
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There are a few movies that I just refuse to see. Congo, From Dusk till Dawn: Texas Blood Money, Encino Man, etc. I think I will hav eto add the live action Grinch to this list. What a bad idea. What's the point of an arrogant Who? This project sounds like something Ed Wod would have his name attached to? What studio will be making this shitfest? Whoever is should bare the wrath and ridicule that Warner Bros. has gotten.
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Save the Grinch from this disaster!!I would hate for my kids' first exposure to the Grinch be this lame attempt at making a perrenial holiday classic. We have It's A Wonderful Life,Miracle on 34th Street, A Christmas Story,not to mention the original Grinch cartoon! The Holiday plate is too full. I think Ron Howard is a good director(Night Shift,Far and Away are two of my favorites)but he needs to let this one die. The sample of the script is so sugar sweet I'm puking already!Why does Jim Carrey have to be in this thing,anyway?I wish he would have gotten an Oscar nomination and his ego would have gotten even bigger,if that's possible, then he might stay away from this kind of crap. Truman Show was good, and I'm looking forward to Man on the Moon, but I'm so sick of people praising Carrey as the funniest man alive because his movies usually make 100 million or more. Hollywood and the public haven't recognized true comedic genuis--Chris Elliot! The only people in the movie industry that have had the good sense to work with Elliot are Tim Burton,prducer of Cabin Boy,one of the most underrated movies of the decade,The Farrelly Brothers--Elliot was the only good thing in Something About Mary(Don't forget about his hillarious cameo in Kingpin)and Harold Ramis.Egon gave him a nice,showey supporting role in Groundhog Day. Ramis should get him involved with Ghostbusters 3 if that ever happens.
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Wasn't the whole point of Who-ville is that they're all innocent and full of love? Why the hell is there an arrogant CEO and an adopted Cindy Lou? Ron Howard should know better.
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...johnb! I love it when the second post says "I'm 1st!" It made my day, so I just need to say, in my best Nelson accent... "Ha Ha!" (just playin, dont flame me)
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I agree with all the above posts slamming this crap. I personally will refuse to see this movie based on principal alone. As you know, come Christmas time there has to be some kinda cheeseball flick in theaters with a christmas theme. Just put the word Christmas in the title of any p.o.s. and the little kiddies will flock to line the pockets of the idiot execs. maybe they're not idiots after all.
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HOOK, POPEYE and the like (some of the most ill conceived and worst films of all time, films that try to be magical and otherwordly, but end up being over-designed, soulless pieces of garbage). The Dr. Suess imagery is so unique, instead of drowning good actors in prosthetics and having them dance around probably to no avail but something really overproduced, lifeless and iritating-- why don't they do an all CGI or CGI stop-motion mix (Henry Selick perhaps) that can really bring those bizarro, beautiful characters to life. Then get Tom Waits to create his first children's movie score (now that would capture the flavorof the books in an interesting way). I know, I'm dreaming -- but still why the hell not. People like Phil Collins and Elton John should be banned from scoring animation and kids films -- what are they trying to do, permanently scar the psyches of the worlds youth? I'm no purist, but live-action Dr.Suess is an inherently SHITTY idea!.... and definetly NOT a good way to introduce his genius to a new generation.
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"DOCTOR. The Who-ville doctor." What?! They didn't call him "Doctor Who"? Probably couldn't get the rights to it, I guess...
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I think it's time to stop following the crowd and bashing movies before they even begin to shoot. What exactly are you basing this criticism on? All we know as of now is that it stars Jim Carrey and will be a live action film. In the interest of fairness, here is one reason why I think that this movie could be good. This film sounds like it is heavily based on the recent staged production of the Grinch story. The play also padded the original story by focusing on the citizens of Who-Ville (who were acrobatic-type actors in outlandish costumes). The play was sold out for its entire run and got great reviews from the critics. The entire production was praised for being both true to source material and great fun for kids. And being fun for kids was what Suess was all about. So maybe you guys should hold off on the criticism for now. It IS possible to make a great live-action version of this story (it's not inherently shitty in other words Los Gordos). Let's at least wait until the movie comes out before we start complaining about it ruining the Grinch.
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I think it's time to stop following the crowd and bashing movies before they even begin to shoot. What exactly are you basing this criticism on? All we know as of now is that it stars Jim Carrey and will be a live action film. In the interest of fairness, here is one reason why I think that this movie could be good. This film sounds like it is heavily based on the recent staged production of the Grinch story. The play also padded the original story by focusing on the citizens of Who-Ville (who were acrobatic-type actors in outlandish costumes). The play was sold out for its entire run and got great reviews from the critics. The entire production was praised for being both true to source material and great fun for kids. And being fun for kids was what Suess was all about. So maybe you guys should hold off on the criticism for now. It IS possible to make a great live-action version of this story (it's not inherently shitty in other words Los Gordos). Let's at least wait until the movie comes out before we start complaining about it ruining the Grinch.
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Hey Harry,
I hat eto burst your bubble, but I found out about this 3 months ago.
Better late than never.
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This is a remake. Most remakes suck. This movie gives off bad vibes from the get-go. It is a rape of the orginal. Dr. Seuss is surely rolling in his grave and so is Mr. Siskel, I am sure.
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Alright!, let me just ask, "What were they thinking in not casting Tim Curry ala that scene in Home Alone 2???!!? He is the ONLY person to cast in my opinion, not that god-forsaken loon that will soon be playing a character half-as-short as himself (and twice as weighty) although Milos Foreman seems to have ignored that little predicament for some unknown reason...could it be he is trying to take an easy box-office draw???
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I have never seen a more justifiable case for homicide. This movie is going to suck the big red dick, and I am absolutely ashamed that Carrey would be involved. Where the hell is MAN ON THE MOON? I was watching a Kauffman special this weekend, and I got all excited about that movie all over again. Instead, looks like we'll be assaulted with this pile of rancid shit, and it's going to ruin my opinion of Carrey if it comes out before MAN ON THE MOON. Save us, someone kill Ron Howard!
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Ug, why, oh why, oh WHY are they making this? I'm so glad that the overrated pile of garbage LIAR LIAR was such a big hit that Imagine Entertainment will now stick Jim Carrey in ANYTHING. Yahoo! You know that's why! And Ron Howard is such a safe, lame director. Blah! And why don't they have Jack Nicholson for the Grinch? I mean, why not let the world's most successful character actor slip into the shoes of the Grinch? Ok, next quiz question: Which dumb-ass group of the week is going to get to do the re-make of the song, which won't be played DURING the movie, only during the credits? (for maximum lame-ness) I'm guessing either Celine Dion, The Barenaked Ladies or Puff Daddy. (Sample lyric "I wouldn't touch you with a 39 and a half foot gat!") Oh, no, they'll probably get Adam Sandler to do it, if he's not too busy making a movie where he plays either an asshole or a moron. Ok, and so now the Who's down in Who-ville can talk? I thought it was neat that only one of them had a speaking part in the cartoon. But now we've got Who-sub plots. Barf! The original did everything it needed to in 30 minutes, so in a 2 hour movie, guess what the extra 90 minutes is? CRAP!!!!! Remakes are lame! Prince of Egypt was lame! If they re-make Ben Hur I'm moving to the moon. (Sample scene in animated Ben Hur remake, entitled 'Prince Of Judea'. Ben Hur is rowing the boat and Quintis Arias, voiced by Chris Rock, falls off the boat during the battle. He grabs onto a rope and swings across the side of the boat, painting a smiley face with blood as he goes. Then Ben Hur (voiced by Nic Cage) jumps into the water and has to fight a crocidile in order to save him. Later, during the chariot race, Ben Hur causes his arch-rival Messala (voiced by Brent Spiner) to fall off his horse and sprain his ankle. Messala tells Ben Hur that his mother (Jessica Lange) and sister (Jennifer Love Hewitt) are in the Valley of the Lepers. At the end, they send Jesus to the cross, but we don't get to see it, kinda like the missing orgy scene in Prince of Egypt. The end.)
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no they are not remaking BenHur as far as I know(although I wouldn't be surprised if the idea is floating around Hollywood) but The Charlton Heston Ben-Hur IS a remake. The orignial Ben-Hur is a silent b/w film(a little bit was showen a while back on a commerical for a car company...Saturn or Lexus) but Ben-hur WAS a remake.
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Emporor, your so right. Carrey was good in Batman Forever,Truman Show and Dumb and Dumber but his oither films arte either mediocre or flat out SUCK. Both Ace Ventura films stunk REAL bad, and Liar, Liar and the Mask were mearly "ok". Chris Elliot IS funny. I LOVE Cabin Boy and Get a Life was HILARIOUS. I was so mad that Saturday Night Live squandared such comic genius when he was in the cast several years back. They gave him nothing to do but play straight man to the other actors. He would be awesome in GB 3. As for the Grinch, there is no douibt about it, done right this movie will rock! The chances are, however, that it WON'T be done right. I mean they already screwed up by hiring Carrey. Jack Nicholson should be the Grinch!
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Emporor, your so right. Carrey was good in Batman Forever,Truman Show and Dumb and Dumber but his oither films arte either mediocre or flat out SUCK. Both Ace Ventura films stunk REAL bad, and Liar, Liar and the Mask were mearly "ok". Chris Elliot IS funny. I LOVE Cabin Boy and Get a Life was HILARIOUS. I was so mad that Saturday Night Live squandared such comic genius when he was in the cast several years back. They gave him nothing to do but play straight man to the other actors. He would be awesome in GB 3. As for the Grinch, there is no douibt about it, done right this movie will rock! The chances are, however, that it WON'T be done right. I mean they already screwed up by hiring Carrey. Jack Nicholson should be the Grinch!
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Okay, for the record:
Dr. Seuss' widow was approached by several production companies to land production rights for this property. Universal won her over with not only a pretty gernerous payoff (hey, business is business), but also because Jim Carrey stars as the Grinch, and Howard directs. She had a chance to meet with Jim on the set of MOTM to talk it over. She was agreeable to the whole thing as long as Howard and Carrey were tied with the project.
Another story circulating is that Dr. Seuss himself had already written a film treatment of the classic tale that included several musical numbers. But, as I said, that's just a story.
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Good god, I was waiting to hear what Rick was going to do next. I stopped by his shop when he was doing Nutty Porfessor. I cant wait to see his creations for this one. I think it might actually be kinda scary. I mean If Henson did it, it would be kinda cute and bouncy. But we are talking the King of realistic make-up. Uhgg I might have nightmares. Skeltnman
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Will you eat them on a hill? Will you eat them Brother Bill? Will you eat them in a well? Will you eat them when you burn in hell? That is plot for the new "GREEN EGGS AND HAM-THE MOVIE". Please send me my roalty check so I can get back to my bottle of scotch. This sterno is killing me! Burmashave!
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Could you please send everyone who doesn't like the preconcieved film on this site $8.50 to go see it when it comes out? If everyone agrees its a classic and much better than the animated Boris Karloff narrated film, we'll send you the money back. Promise.
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First off, let me say that I think Andy Kaufman was a heck of a showman. Let me add that I think the same of Jim Carrey at least because of a few moments in Dumb and Dumber. But Jim Carrey doesn't look ANYTHING like Andy Kaufman and he doesn't remind me at all of Andy Kaufman.
Furthermore, naming this movie after the REM song, I'm assuming that's the source, is complete shit. If they have to do a movie on Kaufman and bring him back as a trend, fine. But at least do it with the same aggressiveness and flare as Andy himself would take. This movie doesn't seem to have the balls to offend the public like it should. If you're going to make a movie about Andy Kaufman, the joke STILL has to be on the audience. And they're not smart enough to pull that off. it should be offensive and make lots of people feel really bad and dumb and want to walk out. And that's exactly what the audience deserves! Most people deserve to be offended for paying to see this. I deserve to watch them walk out. So take that, fuzzballs! -
I say they cast that little girl who does the Welch's grape juice commercials. If they're looking for a 6-8 year old, going on 30, she would be my first choice. She just comes across as an adorable, yet rather smart child. But if you want my real opinion, I say don't make this movie. What was wrong with the classic animated version? It is in my top three favorite Christmas classics of all time. Come on, Hollywood, just be original for once. This remake/TV-nostalgia kick is really making me nauseous (Psycho, My Favorite Martian, Beverly Hillbillies, Brady Bunch, Bedman & Throbbin', etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)
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I'm a huge, obsessive Dr. Seuss fan and I don't like the idea of humans playing Grinches and Whos. I'm also not at all a Ron Howard fan (although I was relieved that at least it wasn't that Farting Professor guy, who was also trying to get the gig). But I'm trying to keep an open mind about this one. No sense in getting outraged before they've even started shooting.
But good god! Cindy Lou Who is a god damned orphan? Okay, I admit that this is not as bad as if John Huges was producing it and the Grinch repeatedly got kicked in the balls. But still, it's only SLIGHTLY better. The quoted dialogue is absolutely inexcusable. It does not in any way resemble the world of Dr. Seuss that we all love.
I also agree with the person above who thought that Whoville should remain innocent. That is the way it is portrayed in The Grinch and Horton Hears a Who. A greedy CEO just plain does not at all fit. And neither do sullen teenagers. Sorry. Buy The Lorax if you want to deal with greedy corporations. This one just won't work. -
This is one of the worst ideas in a long and grand tradition of bad Hollywood ideas. We can only hope that the project dies before it can get off the ground. An utterly pointless and ill-conceived idea for a film. What are they thinking?
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That girl on the Welch's grape juice ads is the most terrifying thing on television. I get more heebie-jeebies from one 15-second spot featuring HER than I did for all six hours of "Stephen King's The Storm."
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I think "Man on the Moon" is going to be the definitive Jim Carrey movie. Forget "The Truman Show." MOTM will be the one to get Mr. Carrey an Oscar nomination. I cannot WAIT for this movie! The script is written by Scott Alexander and Larry Karaszewski, who wrote the earlier, offbeat (and brilliant) biopics "Ed Wood" and "The People Vs. Larry Flynt," both totally original and unusual subjects for a mainstream Hollywood film. I've been a huge fan of Andy Kaufman for years now, but most people only know him for "Taxi." I'm sure this film will spark new interest in this rather eccentric performance artist. I'll be at the theater the day this film opens. I'm sure I'll come back for repeat viewings. Okay. Now on to the subject at hand. Since this talkback is for the Grinch movie, I might as well add my two cents. The 1966 animated classic has been an annual viewing requirement for me since I was about two years old. *CLICHE ALERT* Christmas isn't the same unless I get to see it at least once (Cliche over). Will this new live-action version be a perennial favorite? I can't say. Sure, the idea sounds risky, but it also sounds strangely interesting. I personally would like to see how Ron Howard and Co. will bring Who-Ville to life. Will I see this movie? Definitely, out of curiousity. Will I see it more than once? I might, if the filmmakers stick VERY close to the look and the feel of the original Dr. Seuss book. A final thought: as all Grinch fans know, the great Boris Karloff narrated the animated version. I think the filmmakers should dust off this recording, spruce it up (Karloff in THX!), and include it in the movie.
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