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STAR TREK Remastered!!
Vulcan Conformed!! Shuttlecraft Landing Before An Audience!!
An Exclusive Ship Pic, Too!!

Merrick here...
..with some images from this weekend's STAR TREK Remastered. It's "Journey to Babel", the episode in which Enterprise is assigned to transport delegates (Spock's parents among them) from many worlds to a conference on Babel. Along the way, many things go very wrong - including murder, the discovery of a secret operative, and a vicious attack by a high-speed alien vessel. First up: a reworked shot of Enterprise orbiting Vulcan, from which Spock's mom and dad will visit. Seems Vulcan's appearance has been modified to (more or less) match the way it looked in the later TREK movies/subsequent series.



Here's a shot of a reworked shuttlecraft landing on the Enterprise. In the remastered version, note the addition of onlookers observing through the hangar's gallery windows - as well as the personnel now visible through the shuttlecraft's viewports.



Another angle from the same sequence - the shuttlecraft is being positioned in the bay by a turntable.



Here's a look at the original/remastered Orion ship that attacks Enterprise. Quite a difference...



Finally, an image exclusive to AICN. When that Orion ship attacks, it's zooping around at blazing speeds and is seen in something of a blur. Here's a super-sharp close-up of what that ship looks like...I don't believe we'll actually see it this clearly in the episode. The ship was developed under CBS Digital visual effects supervisor Niel Wray, and modeled by Apollo Kim from a ship design by Michael Okuda.
I like it; it maintains the "ring" (pinwheel) vibe of the original - but still feels kinda retro fresh (that's an oxymoron, but I think it makes sense). "Original" images from TrekCore
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  • Jan. 31, 2007, 9:42 p.m. CST

    very nice!

    by tristeele

    i like these pics alot. cant wait to see the remastered shows!

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 9:46 p.m. CST


    by Turd Furgeson


  • Jan. 31, 2007, 9:47 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Leonard Nimoy

    by Turd Furgeson

    And he said he still hates Shatner....

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Ben Affleck for Spock

    by Turd Furgeson

    He wouldn't even have to act..... He's already wooden and has horrible delivery......

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 9:49 p.m. CST


    by Turd Furgeson

    OH YEAH....

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Did Merrick cover the release date for the DVDs?

    by adambalm

    I believe it was announced a few weeks back, or at least that the remastered eps would be out on DVD before the year was out. But I didn't see it covered here.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 9:51 p.m. CST

    The title of this movie should be

    by Turd Furgeson

    Star Trek XI- TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION..... Oh yeah TFD, it's catching on....

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:10 p.m. CST

    It's nice to see the studios getting us psyched...

    by nomihs

    Getting the trek fans a taste of what is to come in the form of J.J.'s vision. Can't wait for the Kirk on Blue Skinned Alien (soft) porn.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:11 p.m. CST


    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    What is the need and desire to tamper with something that did not need tampering with? I think it's a fucking disgrace to Rodnberrry that this is taking place at all. 1st Star Wars now this. So glad I got my box set of the orginals in tact.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:14 p.m. CST

    I'm of the mind that the digital effects...

    by rbatty024

    actually enhance the show. I feel like it's actually taking place in the Trek universe rather than on a crappy soundstage. The best thing these designers did was make sure everything has a retro feel. It meshes perfectly.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Mad Cool

    by DarthDooku

    Good to see that they're really improving on these stuff, looks really nice.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:26 p.m. CST

    RE : Allpowerfulwhatever

    by Real Deal

    The only pointless thing here is someone trying to think for Roddenberry. By the way his wife in an interview said he would have been in favor of it because he was always looking for the best, cutting edge way to portray Star Trek on the screen. So there. You'd have to be blind not to see this is making these stories new and fresh all over again. And that's without changing the story or the acting. Keep up the good work CBS! Ps. Next up " The Doomsday Machine " !

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Meh, I prefer the "original" examples ...

    by 7-zark-7

    ... with the possible exception of the planet shot. That new shuttlecraft bay is too cluttered with detail for its own good. Just my own opinion, which I'm well-aware is about to get stomped on.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Has AICN become CBS' marketing dpt.?

    by GregoryHarbin

    I mean, cool, but...why is this all of a sudden starting with the promoting?<p>Also: I'll watch when I can get it on HD-DVD. I have no desire to watch a 30 year old show edited and with commercials, even if there are new effects.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Everyone will have their preference

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    There is no right or wrong and I am not trying to think for Rodnberry. His wife's comments are hers and not his since he's not here to really say anything so we are both assuming. Touche. I prefer my trek not fucked with thank you very much.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:35 p.m. CST

    JJ will have a party scene at Starfleet Academy.

    by kabong

    The guy who was Weiss on "Alias" will roll his eyes about Spock being boring. The "Felicity" chick will show up as a Starfleet admiral. And the title has got to be . . . TEEN TREK . . . with the emphasis on TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:39 p.m. CST

    it's really half the fun...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    When Star Wars was retooled and now classic Trek, half the fun is how people react to it. Personally I like what they've done with these episodes. I agree that it enhances without distracting, and find I prefer the new effects above the old ones. But I thoroughly enjoy reading comments from people who don't like them...and it's even more fun reading stuff from folks who downright hate them. So...keep on keeping on 7-zark-7...long live The Fiery Phoenix...*transmute*

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:42 p.m. CST


    by 8footTallGopher

    in tact?

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    RE : Allpowerfulwhateve

    by ulcer

    Nice to see, AllPowerfulWizardOfOz, that you think you know Gene Roddenberry woud think as much his wife who has shared his life for 20 years. There is absolutely no reason to watch these tired old shows ever again; the new special effects gives them new life.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:50 p.m. CST

    you know

    by jimmy rabbitte

    in tact, out of tact, got a thumb-tact?

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:56 p.m. CST

    no tact!

    by 8footTallGopher

    tactfully put! your 'tact' wit is intact.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:57 p.m. CST

    deep space orion?

    by Amy Chasing

    that orion ship looks like someone didn't know how to build Deep Space 9 out of lego and got the color wrong too. But I'm with that guy from 'Free Enterprise': "Only originals!" (although it's nice to see these 'DVD extras' being inserted into remastered episodes - nice job if you can get it).

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST


    by jimmy rabbitte

    and you'll be receiving the AICN good spelling star of the day. Good on ya, Man!

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11 p.m. CST

    Did someone say orion?

    by Orionsangels

    Forest Whitaker hosting SNL, you heard it her first.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:10 p.m. CST

    I liked the original shot of the Enterprise

    by LordMadhammer

    that classic "yup, here's the Enterprise" shot that they used in like every episode is burned into my brain... changing it just seems gratuitous and Lucas-y.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Scooping info from LENO, eh, Orionsangels?

    by George Newman

    gosh i was watching too, surfing back and forth with adult swim

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Everyone's seen the ST: Of Gods and Men trailer, right?

    by George Newman

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Spock gotta pon farr

    by jimmy rabbitte

    It' Starfleet Week, the ships are in spacedock... time to score some pointy-eared, prearranged vulcan honeys...

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:18 p.m. CST

    As fun as tryin 2 flip a coin while having a seizure

    by George Newman

    un-truncated text: "It looks about as much fun as trying to flip a while having a seizure"

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    quote from han solo...

    by theonecalledshoe

    "Instead of a big dark blur, I see a big bright blur." heh.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Damn you George!

    by Orionsangels

    Sad when you gotta get your news from talkshows hehe. Conan just said Armed and Famous was cancelled, d'oh!

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    conan's hair...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...gotta eat.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    conan's hair...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...gotta eat.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:30 p.m. CST


    by jimmy rabbitte

    you're not supposed to feed it twice after midnight... everyone run for yer lives!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:30 p.m. CST

    rabbitte's post GOTTA repEAT

    by George Newman


  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:32 p.m. CST


    by CornsilkSW

    you can see the pre-fab CGI textures all over the sides of the polygon shapes in the effects. That's just sad.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:33 p.m. CST


    by jimmy rabbitte

    never twice after midnight... run!!!! run fer yer lives!!!

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Kirk Shot First!

    by Gorrister

    I don't really mind these new versions of Star Trek. Especially since the originals are still widely available (and probably always will be) and, so far, they aren't using CGI to change storylines, like having the Gorn Captain shoot at Kirk first.

  • Jan. 31, 2007, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Jonathan Rhys Meyers For Spock!

    by Darth Fabulous

    In Star Trek XI, not erasing Nimoy and using Meyers as a "digital remastering" of Spock in TOS: Special Editions.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:03 a.m. CST

    gimme those giant statues!

    by werideatdusk

    i loved how they retouched Vulcan in the DVD version of TMP to match "III", "IV," and the later TV shows. I love that Vulcan has those gigantic statues and temples.. such a mysterious place. I really hope they do a lot for "Amok Time" when the time comes.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Somebody who loves Trek, please explain

    by ebolamonkey

    How this is any fucking different than what Lucas did with the original trilogy.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:27 a.m. CST


    by Motoko Kusanagi

    there!I said it!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:35 a.m. CST

    I don't LOVE Trek, but I like it enough to explain.....

    by Gorrister

    The number one difference is that, when Lucas screwed with Star Wars, he refused to allow the unaltered versions of the movie to be released to the public. Even what that changed last year, it was only as a cheap "bonus" feature and didn't take advantage of the quality that DVD could bring to the Trilogy. This version of Star Trek will exist side-by-side with the original versions. Lucas intended the "Special Editions" to REPLACE the originals. These versions also do not attempt to alter the original storylines as well (ie: Greedo shoots first, Han steps on Jabbas tail...and lives!, Emperor's altered ESB scene, "young" Anakin's ghost, etc) and doesn't overload the audience with useless special effects (ie: all the fucking Rontos in Mos Eisley).

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:43 a.m. CST

    I love Star Trek and I'll tell you what GL gid wrong

    by George Newman

    These new Trek FX are not changing the story like some of the segments in the SW SEs. No one complains about the new FX in hte Death Star trench run because the FX just made the scene cooler. The entrance to cloud city and those background effects were great! These "sprucings" in ST and SW are fine. But GL didnt stop there. He altered characterizations and inserted distracting excess. I don't need to argue "Han shot first" cuz that is ellaborated here every other day. My biggest problems are with ROTJ anyway. Why change the music in Jabba's palace? GL:"I was never really happy with what we did, but now we could go back and create the Musical Number we always intended." GL just lost sight of what was important. The truth is nobody cared that there wasn't a musical number. Just hurry up and get to the lightsabers. We didnt need a bunch of jive jibberish "chicka monkey ho" and CG alien spit. That blue alien muppet wasn't on beat with his instrument before, and its even worse now...Why does the Sarlacc(googled that spelling) Pit have a mouth inside of its mouth? I though those were teeth on the walls, but I guess not, cuz everything now just goes into the toothless beak... Why change the closing ewok song if you're gonna replace it with something even more forgettablethan before, and something even harder for Lando to clap to? Ugh, I cant believe i just got sucked into that, and i 've got so much more,. someone help me out

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:49 a.m. CST

    thx Gorrister, i'm typing slow with no contact lenses

    by George Newman

    I might loathe that altered DVD ESB emperor scene more than any other change. ludicrous. Why?! Why, Biggs, WHY??!!!!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:51 a.m. CST

    And I'm not defending every new ST effect either

    by George Newman

    Those stills from the shuttle bay sequence look like anus

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 2:21 a.m. CST

    I like them they look classic not cg'd to death

    by skiff

    I like the colors to very natural the doc looks nice too.I love that old gost grey look.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 3:45 a.m. CST

    I have to say..

    by Lemming

    the preview trailers with the voice over thing make this remastered trek look/sound like some really dark and cool shit. not sure if that's a testiment to the show and it's remastering, or just good trailer hype.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 5:18 a.m. CST

    "gotta eat"

    by Milton Waddams

    You gotta eat people are almost as funny as the damn you michael bay people! No matter how many times I read that I almost piss myself laughing! You are some funny bastards!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 6:33 a.m. CST

    I hope that was sarcasm

    by Lone Fox

    Screw these remastered efforts. The originals look so much better. They capture the time and spirit of the series. They were CREATIVE. Next up: Batman TV show redmastered. Adam West with nipple armour against a gothic 30's style cityscape. Eat one!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 6:33 a.m. CST

    the shots look good

    by just pillow talk

    but I do not understand the need to 'update' the look. The show was made 40 yrs ago, why change how it looks? It's part of what made it appealing to fans. Perhaps every single movie/TV show made pre 2000 should be digitally enhanced? That includes original Star Wars....

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Are they gonna CG moving antennae...

    by Kid Z

    ...on all the Andorians, too? Keep the Tellarites as they are though. I liked the "piggy" look. The somewhat non-piggy Tellarites in Enterprise were lame. Well, actually, that whole series was lame. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, they redo these space scenes and some of the old matte shots, then the rest of the series is still all balsa wood and aluminum strips from Lowes. It's not "Cool! New FX!" It's just jarring and, yes, again... lame!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Can't wait to see flames on the Doomsday Machine...

    by SpyGuy

    ...or Tribbles replaced by walkie-talkies. Still, it sounds better than that new CGI remastered version of THE MUPPET SHOW.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 7:59 a.m. CST

    I always thought

    by SithMenace

    that this episode was the better version of The Undiscovered Country.<p> Anyway, in my opinion, with the exception of Greedo shooting first, ANH special edition was a definite improvement over the original. I LOVE Star Wars but those fx looked dated by the early 80's. The extra scenes were really cool because it was our first new Star Wars in 12 years and they actually added to the movie. But as the SE trilogy progressed, the bonuses got more forced. The reason is by the time he did the original Empire and Jedi, he HAD the money he needed to make the movies he wanted, with some minor exceptions. So there was very little to add or fix on those two, and anything added to them was just a gimmick to get people into theaters. <p>Now, I think the added scenes in Empire are pretty good too, with the exception of Luke screaming as he fell and Fett's redubbed voice (travesty), but Jedi just got fucked over. In fact, I can't remember one addition to Jedi that I think enhanced it. If I remember right, there's the herd of banthas (kinda cool but unnecessary), the gay Sarlaac face, and the musical number. That's it, right? Not a single addition that added to that film. The cleaned up fx were nice, but they didn't even clean up the most glaring mistakes.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    How about that guy who plays Sylar (sp?) on Heroes as S

    by cutest_of_borg

    Definitely a better choice that Affleck. Fuck you, Strabo.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    SPOCK, that is.

    by cutest_of_borg

    That is all.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Turntable Shot

    by gengrievous82

    The onlookers in the window for the turntable shot are a bit too obvious in the 2D persuasion. Probably a time constraint and therefore a necessary evil, but the onlookers are definitely 2D digital mattes projected on the 3D environment. I need to stop reading Cinefex.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Journey To Babble?

    by TheBaxter

    Did the remaster the pronunciation of "Babel" for this episode too, now that everyone in the world has seemingly decided to pronounce it "Babble" instead?

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Rubber masks all the way. Long live muppets!!

    by George Newman

    Looking at the puppets in Hitchhiker's Guide, I don't know why anyone would insist on CG characters over puppeteering. Puppets today are better than ever

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 11:18 a.m. CST

    CGI Khan pectorals

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    I think that it should be done...Those things were as fake as that chicks breasts in Battle Beyond the Stars!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:11 p.m. CST

    About Roddenberry's preference....

    by DreadPirateRoberts

    Anyone saying that Roddenberry would have been against this, or even that we don't know what he would have said , is wrong.<br><br> How do I know? Because he already voted on this in a way. When it came time for the films, he was all for changing the look of the Klingons and updating to newer sleeker ship designs since the money and technology allowed. He did not keep the Klingon makeup the same out of tradition or faithfulness to the old series. In fact, when asked about the new Klingon look he even said in one interview he would go back in time and change it in TOS if such a thing were possible. He thought they just looked cooler. And these new episodes are not changing stuff that extreme. (Yes, I KNOW that technically they don't have to anyway since the DS9 and Enterprise writers decided to work the old look/new look thing into the Cannon).

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I thought the X-Wings looked pretty good

    by SithMenace

    Granted, CGI doesn't have the realism a photographed model has, but it was cool as they flew by and you could see the pilots moving inside. If there was one piece of CGI that bothered me in that movie it was Jabba and that whole sequence. The CGI wasn't that great and I prefer the mystery of just hearing about him until ROTJ. You hear Han talk about him in the first two so by the time you see him in Jedi he's already a legend.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST


    by SithMenace

    That was Khan's real chest. I know, I couldn't believe it either.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Khan's breasticles or Surfers silver cosmic package

    by just pillow talk

    whoever wins all of humanity loses...

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Roddenberry GOTTA EAT!!!

    by screamster101

    Didn't GL already do this? Another part of my childhood... raped. I LOVE THOSE SHITTY SPECIAL EFFECTS!!!! If Gene were alive today, he would shit a sandwich over this.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Every one of you crybabies

    by skydemon

    who wanna come in here and whine about Whyyyyyyy the hell are they doing this; It's because there are a lot more fans like myself out here who love it, and think it's a good idea. BESIDES, unimproved versions are on TV Land, or DVD. The rest of us are going to enjoy this. I've been watching Star Trek since 74 and I think this is Great, and getting better all the time. As long as there are no "Greedo shot first" changes made, update the hell outta Star Trek, and Let's do TNG next.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:20 p.m. CST

    WHY they are changing the special effects

    by The Disco Plumber

    Didn't anyone read the initial press release for the HD versions? They are doing the effects over because they HAD to. When they went back to the original film to remaster it for HD, the effects looked soooooo much worse in HD that they felt they needed to be re-done. I think the example they gave was that you could see through the Enterprise in many of he shots. Of course, his doesn't explain why they had to make the Gorn blink (a subtle touch I thought was awesome, by the way), but whatever. From what i understand, if they ever release ST:TNG in HD, they'll HAVE to redo those effects. Apparently, after the show was filmed, the film was transferred to video and the effects were added on the video. If they go back to the original film masters for HD, there will be NO effects. Way to think ahead guys.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Just to clarify

    by ebolamonkey

    When I was a kid, I thought Star Wars and Star Trek were amazing. Even watching the cheap effects today, I remember how I felt when I though they were the greatest special FX that could ever possibly be produced. These remasterings only seem to prove to me that (1) they can't really update them, they don't feel like a part of the original and (2) since they can't impress me with tacked on effects, the nostalgic side of me wants to see the originals. Glad to hear these won't become the de facto standard Treks.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by mrbong

    i think it's great that they can go back and make seamless, perfect touch up jobs on things like Star Trek and Star Wars. the excellent stories don't change, the picture just looks better. anyone who is so devistated by this thing we call "new technology" can fuck off and watch Battleship Potempkin on their Betamax ad nauseum, quite frankly.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST

    from one extreme to the other

    by monorail77

    First Star Wars made so many digital changes, there was a fan outcry. Now Star Trek, mindful of the Star Wars backlash, makes its digital changes. They are respectful and unobtrusive, to a fault. The more I see of these innocuous, unnecessary changes, the more I wonder "what's the point?" The pendulum sure has swung. Maybe the next "digital reimagining" of classic sci-fi will find that happy balance that has so far eluded both Star Wars and Star Trek.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Vulcan's had its books cooked by New Line!

    by performingmonkey

    You knoe Bob Shaye gotta eat.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 2:14 p.m. CST

    They need to go back to the Star Trek movies

    by Darth Kosher

    Remaster Shatner's hair.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 3:09 p.m. CST


    by Abin Sur

    Damn you Rick Berman!!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Lucas is a hypocrite

    by Gorrister

    Back in the 70's, an FX company (that eventually went on to do effects for Last Starfighter) pitched Lucas with the idea of using digital effects in Star Wars. They even did an animatic for part of the dogfight scene. Lucas shot the idea down. Now he's see as the pioneer of digital effects....yet he originally scoffed at the idea when he made Star Wars.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 8:36 p.m. CST

    could Lost in Space be next??

    by Texbear2000

    lets replace the robot with the terminator..and put boobs on Penny!

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Airdate & Time, Anyone?

    by jorson2

    Just so everyone can actually WATCH the remastered episode when it debuts (and I know it's on televison now because I've seen at least one remastered show), could this site include a little reminder of at least what day of the week and time of day we might expect this? As said, I've seen one remastered episode but can't remember day and time.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Airdate & Time, Anyone?

    by jorson2

    Just so everyone can actually WATCH the remastered episode when it debuts (and I know it's on televison now because I've seen at least one remastered show), could this site include a little reminder of at least what day of the week and time of day we might expect this? As said, I've seen one remastered episode but can't remember day and time.

  • Feb. 1, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST


    by MGTHEDJ

    This weekend, on a broadcast channel. Check your local listings and look all the way from Friday night to about 7 am Monday morning. In most markets, including mine, it is on the channel that was running the 4th season of "Star Trek: Enterprise." Usually it's on between 1-5 A.M.----later-----m

  • Feb. 2, 2007, 4:01 a.m. CST

    Star Trek: Remasturbated

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Gimme that sweet alien lovin'!

  • Feb. 2, 2007, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Leave Lucas Alone

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Jeez, you don't own Star Wars, he does! Now we have some individuals calling him a hypocrite because he did not want LAST STAR FIGHTER quality CGI in STAR WARS! Go watch that movie again, and tell him that was a bad call effects-wise.

  • Feb. 2, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST

    oh no, Lucas deserves any outcry against him

    by just pillow talk

    And instead of wasting time updating the original SW, he should have been working on the prequels story/direction wise and not lost himself in CGI.

  • Feb. 2, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Captain Pike said it best:

    by Darth Kosher


  • Feb. 2, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Cool New Effects!

    by Maegnarval

    The New remastered F/X upgrades are looking cool! Can't wait to see it all when it comes out on DvD/blu-ray Discs! Just one thing, is the funny way that the Enterprise likes to orbit the planets appearently with it's port side always facing the planet! Or how about that shot of the Enterprise with it's Backend towards the Asteriod-like Space ship! You'd think the crew would re-orientate the Enterprise! Seems more realistic if they showed the Enterprise with its belly towards any planet it orbits!!!! Or if you really wanna get Nitpicky, with it's main sensor array pointing down at the planet, since there are no visible sensor arrays on the Enterprises belly to scan a planets surface!

  • Feb. 2, 2007, 4:54 p.m. CST

    just pillow talk

    by Mr. Charmand Grimloch

    This is a test. How about you shut the fuck up, dickhead? Hey cutest of borg, long time, no see. How's it goin'? Remastered Trek is a great idea. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an ignorant jackass. Period.

  • Feb. 2, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Yeah, thats right, i'm back......

    by Mr. Charmand Grimloch

    Trust me, anyone who starts whining over the remastered Trek is going to go to bed crying, because i'm gonna flame you to Hell and back again. Is it perfect? Hardly. In fact, i'd love it if they would go farther, and i've seen the arguments suggesting that they do. But what you all must realize, and i'm sure some of you are too young or stupid to know better, we are talking about Paramount here, and they have NEVER EVER EVER spent the full amount of time and effort on anything known as Star Trek when it comes to making spotless, perfect effects integrated into an episode or movie. The job is always half baked. For Christ's sake, even with the full blown effort 5 years ago to "finish" ST:TMP with a Director's Edition, they forgot that it would be a good idea to actually do a frame by frame cleanup on the original print. So what we have is a beautifully realized version of the original film, but with the same dust and dirt specks that were present when the movie was first brought out on VHS. With these original series episodes being given a digital tweaking, it is clear, at least on the broadcasts to this point, that scratches and some dirt still exist on the original prints, and clearly nothing has been done to correct that. I agree that it would be wonderful if somehow entire backgrounds could be rendered digitally, along with correcting any and all visuals that are deemed to be questionable, but to expect that sort of effort is setting oneself up for disappointment. It would be great, but it aint gonna happen. For that matter, the plainly evident stuntmen that suddenly appear on screen every time a fight ensues could certainly use some Lucas style fixing, but it won't happen, and that's too bad because the entire point of this exercise is to make the episodes ready and presentable for high definition broadcast. Clearly, a large screen in high def is going to make a fight sequence between two stuntmen who are obviously not the original actors playing the scene's characters is going to look far more foolish than even the original photographic effects that might have dirt and debris inherant in their production from 40 years ago. If asked which one "hurts" the credibility of the scene more, my vote would have gone with the stunt doubles. However, don't misunderstand. I applaud the intentions of the production team to give a facelift to this legendary series. I just wish they would be allowed to truly "go nuts" and tweak everything that would need to be tweaked. (again, don't misunderstand. the originals are great AS IS, but to see the effects updated is a great idea.) Star Trek's writing and performances were always ahead of the special effects in terms of quality, so this is certainly something that should be welcomed. However, the fact that they are tiptoeing around fixing "everything" is unnecessary. It would be possible to do a full blown overhaul on every visual in each show, while still staying true to each effects shot in terms of how it was directed, and never affecting the flow of the story. This is, sadly, another example of Paramount not investing fully into a Star Trek project. Can you imagine how much better the Trek universe would be if all the money that was sunk into "Voyager" and "Enterprise" had instead been placed into a "no holds barred" remastering of the entire original series?

  • Feb. 2, 2007, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Surely not THE Grimloch of the good old days?

    by cutest_of_borg

    Welcome back, friend. Life is good, thank you very much. Yourself? Thoughts on STXI? Can Damon fill Shat's shoes?

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST


    by chetedawg02

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Best scenes are edited out and missing anyway

    by rrchambers

    Has anyone noticed that the new remastered episodes are edited and scenes and/or dialog are missing? At least they are on WLNO Buffalo.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6 p.m. CST

    Yes, cutest of borg.....

    by Mr. Charmand Grimloch

    It is I, Grimloch, from the old days. Parted from thee, and never parted. Never and always touching and.....oh, wait, that isn't quite how we should greet each other is it? How is "the old gang" (ya know, Ribbons, Orionsangel, and that bunch of bunch of fuck sticks who used to dare claim LOTR was better than SW. Ya know, the likes of Morgoth and such? Hopefully they are gone. Ribbons and Orionsangel, however, i have nothing but good words about, although Orion and I used to swap insults. As for Trek XI, i am happily back to being interested in seeing a TREK film for the first time in over 10 years. I am not well versed in J.J. however, but i can only assume he would by default have to be better than Rick Berman. Tell me your thoughts on the remastered Trek. Since i assume you read my post, you know that i am very happy about it. Just wish they would go further.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 6:05 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Charmand Grimloch

    Is Damon an absolute confirmation? I have heard he is NOT yet officially connected with the film. If it happens, i have to admit that my hopes would have been for the casting of these iconic characters to go to talented, but unknown actors. Casting obvious celebrities in such roles is, to me, a dissapointing move.

  • Feb. 3, 2007, 9:37 p.m. CST


    by cutest_of_borg

    Haven't spoken w/the LOTR crowd in a while...thanks to HBO have revisited SW lately. In fact, just watched Ep. 5 today. I had forgotten just how good SW can be. Not to take anything away from LOTR but I think SW is better suited to repeat viewings which may cement its place in movie history as the "best" fantasy/sci-fi film. It is much easier for the kiddies to come in and just watch from any point during the saga-not so much with LOTR. As for remastered TREK - hell yes, I love it! I think we are getting a preview of STXI in these remastered eps. Of course, the big screen treatment will pour on the fx but I think the Enterprise may look quite the same. At least I hope so. I can't imagine JJ will change the icon of Trek too much. As for JJ, he is excellent at creating interesting, flawed, noble characters. Check out Lost this coming WED to see what I mean. As for Damon - no, he is not confirmed. His is just the name that has been bandied about by the fanboys. If the on-line rags are to be believed (this site included) Damon has been approached by JJ for Capt. Kirk discussions. Supposedly Shat has given his blessing. We'll see. I think Damon could do a great job. He can definitely act. I am more concered about the plot. Some rumors are that it takes place when Kirk and Spock meet at Starfleet Academy. I hope this is incorrect. I think it would be better to see them both already out of school and on active duty. Perhaps the film could deal with how Kirk gets the Enterprise. This way we get to see Pike and Spock in action on the ENT and Kirk doing something heroic to impress Pike enough to recommend Kirk as his successor. Lets hope they keep the overall continuity going. Here's two picks for roles: Ray Liotta as Pike and Gary Sinise as McCoy. I'd be happy with an unknown cast, too. I'm just glad the old girl is getting a second wind.