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UPDATED!! "For The Newly Rendered CG World Is Hollow..." A Shot From This Weekend's STAR TREK Remastered!!
Merrick here...
Here's a shot from this weekend's STAR TREK Remastered. The episode is "For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky", in which the Enterprise encounters an asteroid that is actuality a multi-generational ship...conveying a populace that has long since forgotten they're actually on a space vessel.
The newly rendered "asteroid" is based on NASA photographs of real asteroids. The asteroid-ship seen here is called Yonada. As a youth, it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out it wasn't called "Yomama".
FTWIHAIHTTS is also the episode in which the intimidating monolith tries to cook Kirk and Spock, which scared the hell out of me back in the day.
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Remastered
Check out the trailer for NEXT WEEKEND'S EPISODE..."Journey to Babel"...HERE.
Love that shuttle craft landing!
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I thought I might be first. Damn you slow log in. Also, remastered Trek is awesome, I hope other shows follow suit.
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to first? This seems like a matter for the Enterprise.
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...it looks like Louie Anderson.
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Then we'll see some real action.
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Looks good.Needs more snakes i think,and trains!!!
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And the web site says check your local listings...
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That actually looks _really good_. Count me in as a fan of the way they're doing these graphical updates. They're not completely changing the look and feel of the show, but giving it some nice improvements. Very tastefully done. Now, if only I could find somewhere to watch these things...
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Even if it IS Kirk and Spock.
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George Lucas should do something like this with Star Wars!
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They'll make quick work of that dastardly piece of rock!
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Pillow Talk is right. Harry never met a depth that he could not hit.....cue the Aerosmith ballad!
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Best acronym ever
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Howard the Duck with a cg duck that looked like the one from the comics. But leave Phil Tipperts monster at the end, that was great. I mean nobody could complain that the original duck looked better? Oh, yeah this is AICN somebody out there loves that duck. Any takers?
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Which needs to be harvested so that a rag tag fleet could make it to Earth....oh wrong series!
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Heard it hear first
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that's how he got his freedom.
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oh sorry "trekkers". the genuis of star trek is making a show involving huge spaceships with lasers...and never having them fight. You could tell the universe would be such a dull place?
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movie 5 was cool though.
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"actuality" "populous"...fortunately, I'm available for a modest salary.
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...Can we call it Space Seed......????(bad joke)
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We win, Spockie. *boooooooooooooooom*
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Howard The Duck's irritable and cynical attitude would play well to today's irritable and cynical emo kids.<p> If Howard lost the cigar and started cutting himself, we would have a big summer blockbuster!
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Spaceballs the flamethrower! The kids love it...<p>The cheesiness of the graphics should not be replaced. It is part of what made the show so much fun.
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Maybe they could fix it so that Howard burnt himself on the wings with the cigar as cry for help?
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Afleck's best line of his illustrious career. Spaceball's it is then!
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Hey, that light at the end of the tunnel? Guess what? That's not heaven. That's the 'C' train!<p>I always have coffee when I watch radar!
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Just getting my snark on.
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Maybe lose the little hat and give Howard long bangs brushed over one eye with short hair in the back?<p> Let's call Fall Out Boy to headline the soundtrack.
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How bout' a naked Yoeman Rand? (circa 1966)
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Oh, Snap ! Whaddya mean it's not "Yo Mama?" Oh, it's Yo Nada? My bad.
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'I will... hit 800 feet, I swear... to... God!'
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I'd like B7 Enterprises and the BBC to do this with Blake's 7, the Liberator is a beautiful ship design but it was never shot well.
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You know, this shot does look nice. The problem is that it's then going to be inserted into the rest of the episode. What's the point of trying to make a handful of shots seem realistic, when nothing else in the episode does? I've watched a few of these remastered shows, then compared them with the original versions. Personally, I find the look of the original matte paintings and dated f/x to be more interesting than these flashy planets and tweaked phaser shots. The updated stuff just seems as out of place as spotting a watch on a Roman soldier.
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So quit your bitchin. The remasters are needed because eventually High Def DVD and 50" or bigger HDTV screen sizes will become common. The original Trek FX are going to look like real S#%T when that happens without cleaning up a bit, so there ya go.
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It might have more impact if you also post a still from the unmastered edition with the remastered still. Just a suggestion.
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This is being done to appeal to a new audience, and the tweaks aren't that jarring. It's a rather tasteful way to punch up an old show like Trek.
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You're right. DONE!
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I prefer the original psychedelic asteroid. It's creative exuberance liberates my mind from its ordinary fetters.<p>
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... the 'roid being all lit up in funky dayglo lighting like an old Blue Cheer concert!
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they said the first asteroid was "Way cool, man!" and the remastered version just looks like a big flying boulder and it was "kinda a bummer, man".
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...that concerns young Spock and Kirk I want the original "Constitution Class" Enterprise. I remember early fiction referring to the class as "Constellation" as well and I actually liked that better. I want the real one, the kick your butt one that could transport someone out of an antimatter blast and not mess up your hair. Also I want it fully crewed and not with a cadet, skeleton or otherwise kind of crew. I don't want to hear about broken sensors or atmospheric interference. Also please do not mention anything about Archer or Vulcans that lie their asses off. I'm not kidding anyone ...I will go see it if they get another film done but I don't want to have sit through something I would not take my friends to. If I see anything resembling a counselor - I walk out and throw away my Trek stuff for good. BTW that Surfer picture rocked. SILVER BALLS...SILVER BALLS ...IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME FOR GALACTUS...
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original/remaster, you'd bitch even more. One cool thing, for me anyway, is I haven't watched Trek in yeeaarrs. Never cared about DS9,TNG or whatever but I'm really enjoying this whole thing. I had forgotten how well written some of these episodes were. Look past the goofy costumes, dated hair and FX and you've got some pretty decent sci-fi. The updates are just a bonus. Haters can suck it.
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TOS Enterprise NCC-1701 and the A were bulletproof. The amount of battering that those ships took was incredible. Heck the NCC-1701 took a point blank phaser shot and did not disintegrate in ST II. The NCC-1701-A took a photon torpedo blast which breached the saucer secondary hull and went through it. Did you see how many times that cloaked bird of prey fired torpedoes and the ship. Then we fast forward to the dud that was the Galaxy-Class Enterprise-D. One freaking phaser shot was all that it took to hear the immortal words from Worf "Shields down to 60%" 40 friggin percent from one volley? And how did the NCC-1701-D go down? At the hands of a 70 year old Klingon Bird of Prey, hitting an unshielded Enterprise...pathetic.
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Even that Romulan commander lady was better looking than that Dr Crusher..shivers...
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I've been watching the episodes on a large plasma screen and the clean up is just beautiful. The colors look spectacular. I loved Where No Man Has Gone Before.
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Jan. 26, 2007, 1:14 p.m. CST
It's the Next Generation that really needs remastering
by performingmonkey
TNG was shot on film but transferred to video for broadcast, am I right? What they need to do is an HD master from the original film (if that's possible) and create all-new effects, including multiple CG Enterprise D flybys because there were like 4 used for the whole 7 seasons.
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...I always thought that it was a recurring weakness in the series! All kidding aside, I understand what you mean by those flybys, Monkey
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I love original TREK. Fuck you, Strabo.
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I wish some one would make a kick ass sci-fi movie. what made the starwars ot work was the amazing space ship stuff done by dykstra. It had a weight to it the same as the ships in the old battlestar galactica. When the falcon did a barrel roll you could feel it the space skids made you want to hold on to something. Id4 touched on this efect abit the spiderman swinging stuff dykstra is doing is getting it too but nothing like starwars ot did.If I was an effects company I would do a test and have every artist sequence a space ship flying and see who has the gift or the eye. If you fill a room with guys like that Now thats a move I want to see.
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Asteroids look like chunks of the moon! Who'd have thought? Thanks NASA!......... Personally, I prefer the original FX.
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Myself, that is. And every day I don't see them, I die a little bit more inside. <p>Can't wait for more movie tidbits. C'mon ya guys, start buggin' Abrams for some dirt!
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I love the Originals, but have no problem seeing the stuff remastered. And I agree, nothing can replace the original Enterprise or Enterprise-A; they were shot up to hell and back but kept going. Never had the time for TNG, but came to appreciate DS9 after the fact, especially when Behr took over.
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It's an awful, awful episode; one of the worst of the third season duds. McCoy falls in love (yawn) and thinks he's going to die (yawn).
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sci-fi channel?
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The original looks far better - more inspired.<P>Last TB I said I had stopped being a doubter. I spoke too soon.
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Yes, the updated shot only emphasizes that the original f/x- while dated- are far more imaginative. No matter how advanced our HDTVs get, we're still dealing with a forty-year-old show. No amount of altering is going to disguise that fact.
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Ted & Tom LeGarde live in my town w/a big brick wall surrounding their house. every now and then you see a little shetland pony walking around the front yard. wierd. My Name Is Mudd = good Primus song.
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Yoeman Rand + her psychedelic boulders = crazy delicious!
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Another excuse to buy the DVDs
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It doesn't look like they are matching the vibe of the original at all. Making this nothing more than fancy wall paper. What a waste.
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checked out imdb, rog got to be on a lot of cool shows!! and phil, obviously as well!
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way JMS originally wanted - so season 4 wouldn't be rushed and ended as Sheridan was captured by Earth Alliance, and then season 5 could play out the ending nicely and perhaps even show some of his years in office until he "simply, stops". Well, they're re-doing the anime series of Hellsing to get it right, why not B5? :)
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I think it looks great and they went out of their way to keep it looking as close to the original as they could while improving the FX. People will bitch about anything.
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DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY.
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...I read that while all the stars got requests for photos the one that was asked for the most was "The Ship". There was a reason why the perspective was "ship large" in the original shot. Enterprise was big and she was powerful. The later incarnations were supposed to be bigger but their capabilities made them look small.
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On the topic of "remasterings" and such, I can go either way so long as the original is protected or for the most part somehow kept available. Frankly, I loved the STAR WARS remasters and had no problem with what Lucas did. I mean, come on, some of the additions are perfect and in some cases utterly kick ass. Best example off the top of my head: A NEW HOPE when the X-Wings leave Yavin to fight the Death Star and you see that formation "fly by" into the camera which then pans with the ships. Besides, you did have things in the SW films -- as "modern" and as recent as they were -- that DID need cleaning up, such as clearly evident matte lines that on today's sharper monitors only became worse looking, in some cases to an actual point of distraction. So, yes, the "kid in me" who is old enough to remember seeing SW in the theater back when it debuted in '77 can still enjoy the film as my all-time favorite action/adventure movie, but at the same time now the adult in me can enjoy it without wincing at certain glaring parts.<p>So touching up the original trilogy wasn't that big a deal for me since the fixes Lucas put in didn't really affect the films themselves per se (ie. the actual acting, storyline, sets, etc). Now as to the prequels and how they were handled, that's a whole other debate. Like any SW fan, I can list some remastering and re-edits I'd like to see on those films too now!<p>On the other hand, when it comes to this stuff age is certainly the core issue and problem. Looking at the comparison stills here for this latest STAR TREK episode, I have to say it IS cool to see the Enterprise now passing by a "real" looking asteroid rather than a piece of my breakfast cereal blown up in size and badly matted in. On the other hand, the REAL problem with these remasters is that now you have these spiffier effects, but then you still have to cut back to cardboard sets and cheesy outfits and even cheesier alien makeup. Its not like the SW films where tons of money was spent so that the live action footage is clearly of "equal caliber" to any effects work, so to speak.<p>Overall, if Paramount was going to do this, what I WISHED they had done was simply go balls out and actually touch up all the "live" portions as well. I'm talking a REAL "re-envisioning and remastering" that would have meant adding in new people, new crowds, aliens in the background, digitally changing sets and re-rendering them for entire scenes -- that sort of thing. That would have been cool to see. Instead of doing a modest "tweaking" on all the episodes, I would have preferred to see a balls-out reimagining by taking a few select fan favorite episodes which Paramount then could have put on DVD to recoupe any production money dumped into the venture. In the end, I'm sure more than enough Trekkies would have ponied up the money to see 4-6 of TREK'S best episodes totally "redone" as a special DVD. And by doing it that way, it's aside from the original episodes which could be kept in their original glorious tackiness.
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Or using the internet? No offense, but I cannot make a wholesale switch to HD right now, so how do I get to watch this without resorting to iTunes? Oh, I forgot, this is for people who weren't born when Jurassic Park came out. Nevermind.
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After I just typed out my previous post it just occurred to me. You know what WOULD be funny or totally whacked out to see? Forget TREK. Imagine taking an even OLDER show...say, a classic Fifties TV show like SPACE PATROL or an even older genre serial like the Buster Crabbe FLASH GORDON or BUCK ROGERS cliffhangers from the Forties and then adding new, modern effects to them. Imagine seeing uber-modern day tech creating modern ships and space battles and whatnot...only to then cut back to the Space Patrol people on their REALLY badly dated plywood sets with blinking lightbulbs and whatnot, speaking their REALLY dated dialogue. Talk about a psychodelic genre viewing experience!
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I'm with Triumph poops! that as long as the original is protected and kept available, they can do what they like to it. But I'll still view any new versions like I do special features on a DVD - nice extras, interesting for completeness, but not the real deal. <P> As of yet I'm still to see a new version of anything that's better than the original.
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Roger Carmel was there too with some friends. we talk about it every Christmas.'Grammy was airtight with a coupla handfuls'.
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...and I'd forgotten how good the original Star Trek was, not only as science fiction but as drama. And damnit is young Kirk a bad ass motherfucker. I hope Abrams delivers the goods on the Starfleet Academy flick.
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I think she is thinking of Jay Silverheels and Roger Corman, they were notorious for that sort of thing.
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Think about it... 22 episodes voiced by the ORIGINAL cast. Episodes that most fans have never seen. Why not get rid of that crappy 70's 'Jonny Quest' type animation and replace it with new 3D Shrek-like animation? These episodes were written mostly by the original series writers and starred many guest stars and themes used during the live action series. It would be like getting a new fourth season of Star Trek!
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Is a pretty dumb idea. Are they redoing all of the 25 cent tinfoil and paper-maché monster suits from the old show, as well? Or will they keep that obviously dated stuff right next to the spiffy-slick 2007 updated backgrounds? They might as well update Adam West's Batman series, too. Change the Batmobile into a tank, make Chief O'Hara gay and have ol' Cesar Romero kill a few people... because, you know, nowadays that what the Joker DOES.
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1960's style animation, which was far superior to the garbage 1970's animation of ST:TAS. Re-doing TAS in computer graphics might be interesting if the stories had been better, but I think in a few years, especially after ST/11, we are going to be sick of remastered this and reimaged that.
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Right at the beginning of the "Journey to Babel" commercial... that shuttle landing is exactly the kind of thing they should be doing with this. I think this is another one of those projects whose reach exceeded its grasp. This could be an opportunity to "polish up" the show to make it mesh better with canon - say, by having some random little visual cues that remind you that this actually happens AFTER "Enterprise." And the other promise is more obvious: better, more cinematic effects. That shuttle landing is one. The Galactic Barrier was one. I hope they dont chicken out with "Errand of Mercy"... I wanna see a D7 fleet! And with "Amok Time" I really hope we see Vulcan as it appears in the films and later shows, a vast desert littered with massive statues of antiquity. Too bad the CGI Enterprise looks so iffy.
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on your regular weekend-rerun station. Find the list here: http://tinyurl.com/2cwpub and performingmonkey - I agree that TNG would really benefit from remastering. The film-to-video transfer hurt the picture quality, and those same four or five shots of the Enterprise get pretty monotonous. In season 5 when they built the new regular model they made a few more flybys but it was still about every five minutes that you saw that damn shot from the end of the opening credits. While the nebulae and space formations were beautiful for their day, they would be excellent candidates for a CG facelift. Oh, and they can finally resolve the "big Klingon bird of prey"/"little Klingon bird of prey" conundrum. There's a lot of potential. And I'd love to see a bigger fleet in episodes like "Redemption II."
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Did the digitally fix the wrong middle initial on Kirk's tombstone?
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The CGI shots of the Botany Bay were awful. The ship was a smooth gray lump with no details. I've seen better CGI ships in Trek fan films. BTW, have you all seen http://www.startrekofgodsandmen.com ? Now THAT is an unauthorized Trek film done right!
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The url above was deformed. :(
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I of course here in Miami have to DVR it because it airs at 6am, because obviously someone doesn't care.
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It's huge! Kinda looks like that kidney stone that I pissed out last night.
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with a decent storyline this time? Just sayin'.
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Your comment about remastering the Adam West Batman show was f-ing hysterical!
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Trailer looks awful, someone needs to edit the hell out of it. Also wouldn't hurt if the site had some more info as to what the film is actually about.
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I was blown away by the shots of the Botany Bay and Enterprise. I'd actually say "Space Seed" was the best overall remastered episode I've seen. It's also just a great episode in general, and I love Montalban's performance.
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No hope there, man. Even if they digitally erased the actors and replaced them with the superior cast on Smallville, it would still suck because that script was as lame as that JJ Abrams stinkfest.
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They showed the issue of the Fortean Times with the picture of the Cybermen from Doctor Who... Mandroid indeed!
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...In uncompressed audio and 1080p. It will be a day long remembered when that HD/Blu-Ray disc hits the shelf.
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They didn't show it in my area this week. They were showing "The Toy" instead, followed by some Aretha Franklin Night with the Stars or something.
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...No new storyline needed, just replace some of the scenes of Supes picking up or catching progressively heavier objects with scenes of him punching shit! Oh, and maybe they can replace Kate Bosworth with an actual actress... I'm just sayin'!
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Basic – that is… When are these hitting DVD? I really can’t wait to see ‘em.
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Well the trolls are pretty thick today so I had to pipe in. The job CBS is doing is remarkable! I think the Botany Bay looked great. Al pitted and scared. And when they let the ship go it tumbled just like a space ship would. Kind of 2001! It seems with time they are geting better and better at this. Episodes that I though wouldn't have FX pizzaz seem to have been given just the right amount to have you say wow! Like the Enterprise orbiting a planet in " Friday's Child ". A really minor episode but the orbiting ship looked fantastic. The way it pulled away fro the planet reminded me of the next generation. No. I think anyone who can't see how this is breathing new life into these episodes that I've watched since 1966 ( yes I'm that old )is blind. I really look forward to the acid test which is " The Doomsday Machine ".
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... I don't care what they CGI it into, to me, the classic Doomsday Machine will always be a failed, second grade art class papier mache sculpture, dipped in clear plastic!
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The classic Doomsday Machine maw is still pretty scary.
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This is one lame episode. Why even bother re-mastering it?I can think of a lot better ones that would benefit from the updated effects. This was a wash out....
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