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"Cupid" ((The Fat Lady just won't shut-up this week...))

Published at:  Feb 26, 1999 6:55:36 PM CST

Glen here...




Welcome to COAXIAL, the realm of TV happiness! ((rolls eyes, sighs audibly))

After yesterday's statement indicating Mystery Science Theater 3000
is in its final season, and today's oh-so-zany announcement that Crusade has somehow managed to get
itself canceled before it even hit the air (I'm guessing this is likely some sort of network record), I
thought long and hard about holding onto this next bit of news until the dust had settled a bit.

None the less, I figure: let's just get it over with. So, here you go.

VITAMIN BEE just sent the following news in regarding the possibilities of resurrecting
Cupid, which was recently canceled by ABC - and the subject of fiery fan protest aimed
towards getting the show back on the air. As loyal readers may recall from previous (and frequent)
Coaxial coverage, there were more than a few vocal parties strongly opposed to ABC canceling the
series.

Then came word that networks such as Fox and The WB might be interested in granting
Cupid salvation. Many people really, really tried to bring this show back from the
abyss.

Alas, Vitamin Bee's message suggests their efforts were to no avail. Vitamin Bee's message
speaks for itself.





___________________________




Vitamin Bee wrote:



Several fans had gathered funds to put a ("Save Cupid!") ad in
Variety.

When word came down the pike that Cupid's creator
(Rob Thomas) was joining the producing / writing team of David Kelley's
new ABC series Snoops (Paula Marshall, Cupid's Claire, had already
committed to pilot a week before), one of the fans putting the Variety ad
together e-mail Rob Thomas and he basically said:



"Thanks for everything,
but Cupid is dead."


Good thing he told us too, since we were about two
days away from committing several thousand dollars for an ad to Variety.





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  • Feb 26, 1999 8:00:54 PM CST

    I only have one word...

    by everett robert

    to say about this, it begins in F and ends in U.C.K. and isn't FiretUCK or FatdUCK...

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  • Feb 26, 1999 8:15:06 PM CST

    Cupid- I never watched you.

    by mckracken

    hey Glenn...while your at it, Brimstone bit the dust also (and Millenium is ending due to bad ratings too) :O(
    EVERYTHING IS BEING CANCELLED!!!!!!!! The world is ending on Dec. 31st 1999 anyway so get ready.....

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  • Feb 26, 1999 8:37:12 PM CST

    It'll get worse....

    by clemente

    YOu figure there are maybe one or two good shows that come out every year (at most five). But with so many shows ending this year and the networks prematurely axing great series left and right I have to wonder about what we'll have to sit through next year.

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  • Feb 26, 1999 8:38:48 PM CST

    millenium is dead?

    by wheelie

    woah, hadn't heard about that... i was hoping they were gonna pull thru this year... i really liked that show last year and all that... yeah, it bites this year, but damn, its really gone?

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  • Feb 26, 1999 10:13:50 PM CST

    Cupid...Crusade...whatever!!!

    by harris

    Chris Carter are you listening? Whatever you do, don't let Millennium go. Take a stand. Kick some Rupert Murdoch ass if you have to. Don't let these fans of unproven shows distract you. Your show matters, and I need more.


    Thanks.

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  • Feb 27, 1999 9:32:52 AM CST

    "harris". the person who posted 2 above.

    by superman-kalel

    you are a blithering idiot.

    crusade...whatever...my ass.
    crusade matters more than
    millenium ever has, or will.

    you discuss:

    > Cupid...Crusade...whatever!!!
    > Comment:

    > Don't let these fans of unproven shows distract you. Your show matters, and I need more. Thanks.

    what you need is a swift kick in
    the can. babylon 5, which was the
    progenitor of crusade, was an "unproven show". it suffered myriad setbacks from the beginning, gathered momemtum,
    and was so strong in it's following that despite going down to the wire and having it's 5th season axed, the people at TNT saw how vast and rabid the following was and decided to give B5 a new home on their network for a 5th season. And their ratings numbers paid off for such a wise gesture.

    JMS is a master storywriter, unlike a lot of the claptrap Chris Carter puts out (believe me, I've read enough of his books and comics to know - the only thing he does decently is X-Files) - Millenium started off kind of well in it's first seasons, but has rapidly tumbled downhill in terms of quality and storywriting. Crusade's literally $$$ in the bank for whoever wants to pick it up on their network - Babylon 5 proved that, daring to stand up -- and WIN -- against Trek. The only thing Trek's got going for it (besides the vast Paramount $$$ coffers) is momentum - and even Voyager is doing a good job of killing that off. Crusade, if given a chance, would kick the living shit out of any ratings Millenium could generate. Millenium had a chance, and blew it. Crusade has a chance - and JMS has proven he can crank out winners, not only in story quality, but in ratings as well. Despite having ludicrious time changes in it's schedule, postponing the series on TNT to deal with sports playoffs, and other problems, JMS's stuff has unerringly kept their viewers.

    You can't say the same about Millenium, that's for damn sure.

    "who cares?", they used to display at the end of Millenium's intro...

    i can gladly answer (and again, i was a fan for the first 2 seasons),

    "NOT ME".

    p.s. you might recall a time in the distant past where a little project called "the X-Files" was started, too. *that* had a small - but fierce -- cult following at first. what happened? good storywriting and word of mouth spread and now it's Fox's centerpiece for Sunday night TV.
    Millenium, no matter what night they move it to, will never be that. Because the storywriting, at least now, sucks. (And Crusade could easily be a winner - the viewers have proven it, following B5 despite frequent schedule changes. Crusade would no doubt be the same.)

    So eat that, bud-dy.

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  • Feb 27, 1999 10:32:06 AM CST

    Millenium

    by black angus

    What's all this about Millenium being axed? Is there anything official from Fox or Carter & Co. ? I know that the shows ratings haven't been that great, but then again Fox's whole Friday night supernatural/sci-fi line up hasn't been sucessful ( Sliders died there, so did that virtual reality show "VR5", the show w/ DB Sweeny [what the hell was that? something about luck or chance] and most recently Brimstone). The line up hasn't been sucessful because the supernatural/sci-fi target audience is usually not at home watching tv on a Friday night, as opposed to the more sucessful family-oriented TGIF line up, and shows like Providence and Nash Bridges that appeal to older viewers. This season of Millenium hasn't been nearly as good as the first two, mostly due to the departure of executive producers Glen Morgan and James Wong, and new producer Michael Duggan's self-imposed "no religion" storyline rule (too bad, because the religiously based "Millenium Group" episodes were becoming as good as the X-Files'"Mythology" episodes). Michael Duggan is gone now and Carter has become a little more involved, and recent shows have defintely gotten better. Now it looks like Carter's Harsh Realm series will probably take over Millenium's timeslot next season. If they had any sense at all, Fox would use Harsh Realm as the 8pm lead-in for Millenium and go back to the horror and religion stories of the first two years.

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  • Feb 27, 1999 12:08:17 PM CST

    superman-kalel

    by harris

    This blithering idiot agrees with Black Angus. I should also point out that the word unproven doesn't mean bad, it just means unproven. Thanks again.

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  • Feb 27, 1999 3:35:17 PM CST

    um, hey wait a minute

    by black angus

    How did I get lumped in to this "Crusade VS. Everything Else" arguement? I never said I wanted or was happy that Millenium might get cancelled (this is still just rumor, hey mccracken where did you read this?), just the opposite. I'd rather watch a mediocre Millenium than any of the other junk on Friday nights, I just feel that 1.) Fox has it's head up it's ass as far as programming goes(see my post above) 2.) IMHO Millenium was much better it's first two seasons, but I have yet to give up on it.
    I do not believe everything that Carter writes is "claptrap", nor do I think it's all golden either. This immature competiveness about Crusade VS. Millenium in ratings/storytelling belongs in a sandbox. You'd think people who like both of these intelligently written shows would be mature enough to handle a converstion about them. Comparing these shows to one another is like the proverbial apples and oranges. They are two entirely different shows in writing, production, theme, and tone. Then again, no ones seen Crusade yet, so I'm just going by the A Call to Arms movie and B5 in general. I happen to be able to like B5, A Call to Arms, and Millenium w/out having some kind of mental meltdown. Oh, and since this is actually Cupid's forum, I did think that show was pretty good. It's suprising, that for all the new shows that are being cancelled, Love Boat: the Next Wave is surviving.

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  • Feb 27, 1999 3:43:32 PM CST

    Cupid

    by harris

    I still agree with Black Angus - I personally never saw Cupid, but I heard it was good - I like Jeremy Piven. He's always made me laugh. I have a feeling that he'll be back on t.v. soon enough.

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  • Feb 28, 1999 12:37:25 AM CST

    Cupid's passing ...

    by notpaul

    For what it's worth, I watched Cupid a few times, and I thought it was pretty mediocre stuff.

    Obviously we all have different tastes, but one thing on which I think we can agree is that ALL of the networks generally pull the good shows and keep the CRAP !!!

    I don't know about you folks, but I LOVED Brooklyn South, thought it was the best new cop drama to come down the pike in years. It was amazingly well acted, and fairly well-written. In just half a season, their character development was first-rate. Also, the pilot/opener was totally riveting.

    It was cnacelled and replaced by L.A. Doctors, of all things. Yes, we REALLY needed another show about doctors & hospitals.

    NOT !!!!!!

    Before I get off of this soapbox ... if they don't cancel that Ted Danson doctor show (what the heck is it called?) I am ging to SCREAM. It SUCKS so BAD !!!!!!

    And can somebody PLEASE tell me why Veronica's Closet and Suddenly Susan are still on the air???? Brooke and Kirstie must have locked the networks into some major-tough contract clauses to keep those dogs alive.

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  • Feb 28, 1999 8:55:05 AM CST

    notpaul

    by black angus

    The reason shows Like Suddenly Susan, Veronica's Closet, Working, Caroline in the City, Conrad Bloom, etc. survive (or at least get a longer chance to succeed than most) is because the network that airs them, in this case NBC, owns a piece of them. Thereby making it more profitable for the networks since any revenue from advertisement or syndication goes directly back to the networks, rather than the studio that produces the show. Example: the recent hullaballoo over "ER" getting a ton of cash per episode is because it is not owned by NBC, it is owned and produced by Warner Brothers (I think). Warner Bros. produces the show and basically rents it to NBC, thereby making NBC share any profits from ad's or syndication w/ the studio, and then Warners can turn around and make even more cash by selling the syndication rights to TNT. The reason NBC is shelling out $13 million per show for ER is to insure it gets a bigger cut of the pie (as far as ownership goes) in the long-run. All those shitty sitcoms stick around because the network owns them lock, stock and barrel and all profits are theirs, making it in the best interest of the network (tho not the viewers) to make those shows last.

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  • Jul 07, 2006 7:33:28 PM CDT

    Cupid let it's arrow flow straight to its own heart.

    by wolfpack

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