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Zombie going back to the typewriter? HALLOWEEN delayed?!?

Published at: Jan. 18, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with an interesting rumored development on Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN. My script review wasn't very flattering, but I also purposefully tried to keep the criticism constructive. I think Rob Zombie could make a great movie that is both his own and true to the spirit of HALLOWEEN. Bloody-Disgusting is reporting a rumor that Zombie has decided to put off production for a little while in order to rewrite the script. I've been told by a few people that the script I read wasn't very far removed from the shooting draft, despite what some sites reported. I don't know for sure as I've never talked to Rob Zombie in my life, but if what Bloody-Disgusting has posted is true, then I'd be inclined to believe my other sources. I'm happy that he's gone back and re-evaluated the script. All I want is a good HALLOWEEN movie and doing this semi-remake/semi-prequel is a good chance to focus on what made the first film so great and avoid the trappings that made the sequels suck many nuts. I am arrived at Sundance, so I'll be buried with films and fest stuff here for the next week, but I'm sure my cohorts in crime will keep you updated if Zombie makes an official announcement.


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  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:36 a.m. CST

    FIRST

    by famousmonster33

    wheee...and its my first post here too

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:36 a.m. CST

    MY ADVICE....HIRE A WRITER YOU NO TALENT WANNA BE.

    by i eat cannibals

    I work at a restaurant where Zombie and his production crew came in to eat and talk about the script. I overheard Zombie saying that he's happy with the script. Everyone at the meeting did not look happy. I was laughing so hard. This guy is up shits creek and I love it.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Zombie is dead to me.

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Thank God. Damn these remakes.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie GOTTA EAT!!!!!

    by BatPsycho

    HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Quint has the Power?

    by Ravetin

    You wish. Wait, actually, I wish. Quint, for the love of God write a negative script review for Transformers.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Don't let this new found power go to your head

    by comedian_x

    Quint -- or do -- and strike down films with your saber of criticism.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:47 a.m. CST

    IF IT AINT BROKE....

    by dalbatron

    leave it the fuck alone.. what next... an escape from new york remake...ARSEHOLES THE LOT OF EM

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:48 a.m. CST

    SHATNER SHOULD PLAY MYERS

    by dalbatron

    THAT WOULD BE COOL....

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:05 a.m. CST

    i eat cannibals

    by rivercb

    Those guys should be sending these websites a gift basket for pointing out that crap script before he went and sqeezed out that little multi-million dollar nugget. I wouldn't pay money to see that film but I would pay to see the expressions on their faces when he was defending that turd

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:10 a.m. CST

    "TRICK OR TREAT MUTHAF*CKA!!!!!" - Busta Rhymes

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    That was the pinnacle of the series. No more can be done after that.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:13 a.m. CST

    chickychow

    by HEADGEEK

    Shatner playing The Shape in full white cake make up and digitally removed eyes - slowly stumbling - taking bullets and continuing forward... I would be... awesome. Brilliant idea. giggle.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:12 a.m. CST

    So...

    by The Dum Guy

    Does this in any way inflate your ego Quint? Apparently your the first "Name" that's read the script & thought negative,and then this happens... just saying it is a funny coincidence that this happens so close (plus Dark Horizon's also qouted you). I personally hopes he pulls this off, cause Devil's Rejects did royally rule.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:13 a.m. CST

    HEadGEEK

    by dalbatron

    you get it m man... how freakin cool would that be!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:18 a.m. CST

    SHATNER... THINK ABOUT IT

    by dalbatron

    Come on our there.. lets petition zombie and get the man himself to play The Shape.... 'has been' is one of my top 10 albums Shatner Rocks!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:26 a.m. CST

    How about another sequel?

    by wackybantha

    HALLOWEEN X: THE GREAT PUMPKIN - In this film, Myers turns his life around and becomes a salesman of Grade A Halloween masks. However, no one knows that on all Hallow's eve a nasty surprise awaits the wearers of said masks. Oh, wait.... nevermind.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Snakes on a train...on halloween!!!

    by Snikkar124

    This is great if it`s true.The script Quint wrote about sounded very M.Bay.I think they should can the whole projeckt.Rob want`s to make Halloween into some blood & guts fest.Pure retardation.....

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I've seen

    by THE KNIGHT

    seen about 10 minutes of house of a 1000 corpses and i couldn't get through it... Lets hope Halloween won't be anything like that... smh..

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:58 a.m. CST

    There were good points made in the script review

    by DirkD13"

    I like the idea of Michael Myers having had a perfectly normal pleasant childhood, so there's no explanation or reason for his behaviour. All that stuff about being abused by the step-father was weak. Keeping Myers scary is obviously the number one priority in a film like this.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Would you prefer Ron Howard?

    by DerLanghaarige

    A Studio tool that makes whatever "The Man" wants him to do? Come on, you should be Happy that Zombie gives the fans the finger and says: "This is MY Halloween! Who cares about Michael in the original? This is Michael in MY version!" But all you do is bitching and whining, like you always do, fuckheads.<br> PS: That made me forgot for a few minutes that one of my cats just died :(

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:12 a.m. CST

    HAHA holy crap

    by Mike_D

    i never would have imagined rob zombie would start tearing up and rewrite the thing. the studio must have pressured him.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:16 a.m. CST

    I Eat Cannibals

    by DOGSOUP

    I love that song. Good move Rob.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Quint may have helped save Zombie's Halloween.

    by darthbinks1220

    The director's compass was clearly off here. Quint may have pointed him in the right direction. I still think Mr. Zombie knows what made the original Halloween great. In my 25 Years of Terror DVD, the man sounded like a Carpenter disciple. Your critique centered on the mistake of demystifying Myers. That point will go a long way in determining the quality of the new film. The Shape's menace was never tangible, and never predictable. Only the terror he invoked could be measured. This new development is very encouraging. Perhaps making a good film IS the priority. Being a smart man, Rob hopefully will choose the road less traveled in the crowded highway of subpar horror remakes.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Shatner as Michael Myer is the best idea ever

    by Rambo in the Bronx

    It would catapult this messy remake into super-cult status beyond anything imaginable. It would be playing in arthouse theater for 200 years...maybe even more. Let's just star Shatner in everything while he's still alive.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Zombie, if you're reading this....

    by SebastianHaff

    I have nothing but faith in you. Even the rough draft sounded great save one minor detail: Reimagining, remake, sequal, whatever, Michael Myers did NOT become what he became due to abusive parents or bullies. Just doesn't work that way. So please don't go down that route. Other than that, I think it all sounds rad, a worthy upgrade to a perfect film. And if this rewrite stuff is true, please, PLEASE don't lose the gratuitous nudity I've been hearing about. Modern horror is just a big tease when it comes to the goods. Yeah, Zombie'll never read this, but it makes me feel good to vent. That is all.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Hulk Hogan as Michael Meyers.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Just picture....sweaty Hulk Hogan in jeans, no shirt, and the mask flexing at the guy then breaking his neck.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:50 a.m. CST

    SHATNER... COME ON!!!

    by dalbatron

    SHATNER PLAYING THE SHAPE.. I SAY IT AGAIN... UBERCOOL.. ZOMBIE DO IT!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:14 a.m. CST

    If this is true...

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    ...the guy deserves some credit for recognising a problem and trying to fix it before filming starts. Is it true, though? How would a delay like this affect his cast? They're not likely to sit and twiddle their thumbs while he tinkers, are they? What I am saying is, I don't know what this means.<p>In conclusion, Frank knows nothing. We have all learned a very valuable lesson today.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST

    TOO SOON!!!

    by BannedOnTheRun

    This script needs another week's worth of revisions.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:48 a.m. CST

    And Quint left out a very important thing...

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Specifically, the obligatory paragraph recounting all the details of his flight.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:56 a.m. CST

    SHERRIE MOON GOTTA EAT!!

    by WinkyDinkyHoeCakes

    I don't know, but somehow the image of her in THE DEVIL'S REJECTS walking around in a pair of jeans JUST about to fall off her ass was actually sexier than if we'd seen her naked...not that I mind naked, you understand...

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4 a.m. CST

    huge Zombie fan

    by mr. brownstone

    but that script sounded like a mistake. I've always thought that what made the original scary is that it's *suburban* horror. It happens in the most mundane place for no apparent reason. Myers is from a regular home but he was born without a "soul". The only way he know how to affect the world is through hurting people. Thats what made the original work so well. To me it just robs the concept of it effectiveness with Myers as an abused red neck with a body builder physique. I think Zombie can make this his own without recasting Devil's Rejects in the Halloween mold, he's just gotta dig a bit deeper into the 'ol gray matter.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:01 a.m. CST

    please excuse

    by mr. brownstone

    my rampant typos.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:02 a.m. CST

    I bet Zombie read quint's review and the talkbacks

    by nopix

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Gary Coleman as Myers.

    by mrfan

    Aint nothing scarier than a midget with a knife. AAAAAAAAAAAAH.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Myers isn't scary

    by martinsmith93

    That's my problem with this remake. The first movie ruled and the rest sucked. Myers became a clown performing tricks to amuse the kids. I hope Zombie can get around it. I like his style, hopefully we'll get something original out of it and not just another retread.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Phew. Thank God!

    by Sit and Watch

    I was really saddend by what I read about the script. It sounded like an alright serial killer movie, but terrible for a Halloween/Meyers movie. So bad that I'm still not going to get my hopes up. But at least RZ knows something is not right and hopefully it will change for the better.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Hey Rob

    by Sigmar25

    You should fuck with everybody and remake part 3 - "Rob Zombie's Season of the Witch" That would be way cool

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Leave Zombie alone.

    by jack-torrance

    If you wanna see the original, put on the DVD. He's making a different film altogether. Besides, any guy who covers I'm Your Boogie Man can't be all bad.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie: Talented Director - Horrible Screenwriter

    by Sam Kinison

    Rob Zombie can have as much violence as he wants in his films, but he seriously needs to hire someone who can write. Although his previous two movies looked good on a technical level, the scripts were so hackneyed and trite. People accuse Tarantino of ripping off other people's work, but just listen to that Elvis speech the cop gives in Devil's Rejects. It's taken straight out of True Romance.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:53 a.m. CST

    mrfan

    by DarthBakpao

    ...what scarier is that he always aim at his victim's crotch...

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie's Wizard of Oz, with William Shatner?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    As everyone, including Dorothy. Ew.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:11 a.m. CST

    You Rock Rob

    by Captain Sensible

    You don't go into Michael's origins. We shouldn't know. You build from there. Kudos for rewriting this and not being Jonathan Hensleigh.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:29 a.m. CST

    We already know Michael Myer's origin.

    by rev_skarekroe

    He's evil because he put on one of the haunted masks from Halloween III.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Let's hope the delay is about the script.

    by Felix Buckman

    It could be anything, e.g., insurance, accounting, catering. However, I do like the thought that the feedback here helped move Zombie and/or the IP holders in the right direction. I want him to succeed -- otherwise I wouldn't have said anything, and people are clearly passionate about Halloween, but it's also clear that people interested in it are sophisticated enough to understand the premise and what makes it scary. I bet I'm not the only one of you who has written his own Halloween script.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Don't get your hopes up

    by Gorrister

    If he did read the Talkbacks, he probably decided to rewrite the script in order to piss everyone off even more. LOL

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie's House Of The Dead with Captain Spaulding?

    by FilmFanatik

    Well fuck my ozone.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 8:02 a.m. CST

    AICN helped??

    by Lerkst

    I'm hoping those who say that 'AICN helped Zombie change his mind' are joking, I really do. Zombie DOES have talent, though he's 1 and 1 right now; Corpses was brilliant, but Rejects was flat out boring. He's like Shymalan--direct someone else's material. Zombie should have more self-respect than to do a remake; no matter what he does, how he makes it, how good it is, it will be one thing, and one thing ONLY--a REMAKE. People here can say 'oh, it's wrong, it's right, don't cast this, don't cast that' all they want. IT's a REMAKE....period Zombie should keep trying to improve his game doing original ideas.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 8:40 a.m. CST

    If Zombie liked my idea - it's free, take it

    by Doctor_Sin

    No goofy childhood crapola - make it more like The Omen and shoot for the "what the fuck is wrong with this evil kid?" angle. I really want this to be a great movie. And it could be.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Zombie

    by porterdsgn

    Your still treading in bad waters. You won't be able to do this film the justice it deserves. Stop now!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 8:51 a.m. CST

    If this is true...

    by BJ Stumpz

    ...this is the best news I've heard all week. Judging from his comments on the 25 Years of Terror DVD, Zombie KNOWS 'Halloween.' But that script review certainly indicated otherwise.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Nudity in Horror

    by JohnRevik

    Speaking of nudity in Horror, did anyone see Julia Anderson's Unbelievably gorgeous DD's in the 'Masters of Horror-Right to Die'?..My god man. She's gonna be a big star.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST

    sigmar25

    by foree forehead

    agreed, plus we need more pagan celtohorror. all we have are a few lame leprechaun movies. just for ye: http://tinyurl.com/2s8lnu

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST

    It's quite simple....

    by Mr. Profit

    Do what the "Dawn of the Dead" remake did. Just make a faster paced, audience pleasing remake with better stalk and slash chases, better kills, a better final act between Laurie and The Shape that is more action horror than horror, and leave the original creepy ending. Do Not Make Michael 6'5 and 280. If anything, he should be tall but not built like a Wrestler. Then the whole essence of how Michael was creepy and could hide anywhere is gone because I dunno about you, but I can notice a 6'5 280 beast hiding in my closet. And the emotionless Myers who is just plain evil works better anyway than a retard who jerked off to pics of animals. No one wants to sit down to watch a 2 hour horror film remake. Just stick to the original and remember why this movie is being made. Out of greed. so embrace the fact that you will not top the original and just give us an enjoyable ride. You are only remaking it to bring back Michael and save him from all the shitty sequels in order to make more sequels. Also please make sure that Laurie is strong. I like slasher films and go see them in the movies, and the last time the crowd was on the heroine's side was Jessica Biel in the TCM remake. Say what you will about that film, but she played her role well. In that films sequel people booed Jordana Brewster as soon as she got up and screamed "Somebody Help Me!".

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Hooray For Captain Spaulding

    by Gorrister

    I know it's a petty issue, but I really wanted to see Devil's Rejects until I found out he was naming many of the characters after characters portrayed by Groucho Marx. Just made the movie seem excessively cheesy.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Hey, How About This?

    by KingKirby

    Instead of a remake that just shits all over the what we love about HALLOWEEN...what if Zombie took this script and made it about this abused kid (who is not Michael Myers) with the stripper mom who has a scumbag boyfriend and a sister who's a ho and then have the kid sitting in the crawlspace after a particularly ferocious beating and he watches the original "Halloween" and you see this evil dawning in his eyes as he gets the idea to hack up his sister and then they send him to the crazy house where he grows up and escapes, and steals an actual Michael Myers mask from a store. It's only then that his psychiatrist realizes the connection and rushes to stop the now "real-world" Shape before he kills a bunch of nekkid teenagers. It's kind of a remake; it's kind of a reimagining; but then that this project does become ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN. That idea I could actually get behind...you leave the original as the gospel according to Carpenter and everything else becomes either new or a wicked ass homage to the original...like you don't hear the HALLOWEEN theme anywhere except in the movie the kid is watching UNTIL he later puts on the Shape mask, and then you have this crazy ass heavy metal version from there on out. It's the old, but made new. Huh? What do you think?

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:32 a.m. CST

    DAM YOU ROB ZOMBIE

    by Turd Furgeson

    DAM YOU ROB ZOMBIE

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Michael Myers is pushing to the limit!

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    If Michael Myers is going to be a huge wrestling looking fucker and they're keeping the 'explain everything' approach in this Rob Zombie's John Carpenter's Halloween, then I believe this raises the possibility of the first training montage in a Halloween film. We will need to know how he got those muscles, right? Cue the classic eighties rock and shots of Mikey slowly adding weight to his bench press, running up a mountain, and maybe some of those weird hanging upside-down situps Rocky did in part 4. Eye of the tiger, Mike!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Like your review was what did it?

    by riskebiz

    Doubtful.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:58 a.m. CST

    ARRR.. ME QUINT... I AM ARRIVED AT SUNDANCE.... BAAAHHH

    by BEARison Ford

    grammar.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 10:20 a.m. CST

    He should keep the "GOTTA TAKE A SHIT MASK" :^)

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    ...and lose nearly everything else!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 10:26 a.m. CST

    revising the script

    by thomasjarvis

    Zombie should seriously consider postponing filming for a few weeks and call in a favor from a filmmaking collegue and acqaintance of his; Quentin Tarantino. QT spent a good portion of his early days as a script doctor and story consultant. He actually did an uncredited script polish on 'Crimson Tide'. Robert Rodriguez has admitted that QT rewrote several scenes for his 'Planet Terror' script. QT's also a self professed 'Halloween' fan, and was even once attached in an executive producer capacity to an aborted 'Halloween 6' project with Scott Speigal slated as director, which ultimately never came to fruition because Tarantino and Speigal were unhappy with the script that Dimension wanted to use (which was later scrapped anyways). Zombie is already helming a faux movie trailer to contribute to Tarantino and Rodriguez's upcoming 'Grindhouse' double-feature, and QT and RZ are both under contract to the same studio (the Weinstein Company). Honestly, I feel Tarantino's potential contributions to Zombie's script could prove invaluable. Also, Tarantino has quite a few more notches to his belt as a filmmaker, there is much that Zombie could learn from the man, with only two films to his name he's still more than just a little green to the world of filmmaking. It would be wise of Zombie to swallow his pride and consult a fellow filmmaker who I reckon would be more than willing to offer some assistance, time permitting. Tarantino paid Rodriguez exactly one dollar for his contribution to the score of 'Kill Bill Vol. II', and in return Rodriguez paid QT the same for his brief directorial contribution to 'Sin City'. I imagine Tarantino would be delighted to assist RZ in some small manner with the 'Halloween' remake in return for Zombie's small directorial contribution to 'Grindhouse'. It just makes good business sence. Unfortunantely, I'm not sure Rob Zombie would be open to the idea of asking another filmmaker for this type of assistance.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I wrote a treatment for Halloween in math class

    by CTU Mole

    I have a degree in computer science but now I'm going to film school. Because of a fuck up in the transfer credits, I actually have to take algebra again so sometimes I write during class. I wrote a script for Halloween from the beginning to where Michael breaks out of the asylum. It focuses on the normalcy of his suburban upbringing, his loving family and the shocking acts he commits that Halloween night. It also focuses on Dr. Loomis, a well adjusted family man and genius in abnormal psychology who arrogantly takes the Myers case pro-bono. It then follows his decent into obsession and eventual psychosis as he realizes he's dealing with something he can't treat or cure. Then class ended and I threw it out. Call me, Zombie, if you need help.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Tarantino script doctoring

    by JohnRevik

    *He also wrote the original draft for, of all things...'It's Pat'(That shitty SNL character) mostly due to his friendship with Julia Sweeney (who had a cameo at the end of Pulp fiction). The draft was junked because it was dog shit;unproducable. *Source:the Tarantino Biography.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Completely off topic.

    by Tin Snoman

    I miss Battleposter.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 10:48 a.m. CST

    This Ain't A Remake, It's A New Franchise

    by StockTowns Finest

    What I don't understand about all these remakes that change everything made the originals so special is why they don't just make a totally new series, instead of Halloween change the character names and call it something else, because it definitely isn't Halloween. Rob Zombie thinks that because he is a fan he had the right change things the way he sees fit, but instead of alienating established fans of the original and of horror, he should just start his own horror series based on his mask making, masturbating, eviscerating, people chasing, one-word saying, bodybuilding, deviant children, throat crushing, motherf***ing monster and leave the original Halloween alone so it can inspire generations more of moviemakers to scare the s**t out of viewer with silent and subtlety instead of gore and rock soundtracks.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 10:49 a.m. CST

    geez

    by PushTheButton

    Zombie said himself "I wouldn't have done this film if I didn't feel I had really great ideas for it." Well now he knows he obviously doesn't, and now he's committed. It's not looking good...

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:04 a.m. CST

    It's all a big scam...

    by TheTerminator

    ALL OF IT. Moustapha Akkad used to say he was "doing it for the fans." That's why he kicked the FANS in the balls and basically destroyed the series. Rob Zombie says he's a "fan." Right, a fan that basically says, "fuck you, I don't care what you think" to everyone that questions what he does. All these people care about is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. They don't care about what you think, they don't care about what I think, all they care about is making DOLLARS. When Zombie first announced this stupid remake, he mentioned that Carpenter gave his blessing. Well, no fucking shit. Considering Carpenter is probably going to make a good chunk off royalties, OF COURSE he gave his blessing! This is just more evidence of the bullshit they keep feeding us. The whole thing is bullshit. Another poster mentioned that Zombie should just call this something different. I've been saying that for months, too. You know why they will never do that? Because the name 'HALLOWEEN' guarantees that people will show up. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:13 a.m. CST

    I stroked it SIX times!!

    by Dr Gregory House

    SIX!! And still, my junk is hard. It's not human!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Bud from Part II gots ta get paid

    by Dr Gregory House

    Bud: "Julie's full of shit. He didn't escape until last night." Janet: "You don't have to swear about it." Bud: "She's a goddamn moron anyway." Janet: "Every other word you say is either hell or shit or damn." Bud: "Sorry. I guess I just fuck up all the time."

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Did you guys read the BD article???

    by Cellar Door

    RZ says that people are going all batshit because of what a reviewer *thinks* about a film. While that might be true in some cases...I think if he's referring to TB's (which is kinda likely) then he's wrong in that most of the TB's were reacting to what was presented as *facts* in the script itself. People care, not for what a reviewer thinks, but for the film itself! How many of these classic legacy films have been exploited/belittled already by a bad approach to the "remake"? Tho I'd like to see RZ succeed in this I still think a remake of Halloween is simply unnecessary..same thing for the coming "Thing" remake! Greatness doesn't lend itself to remakes.<p><p><p>A talking, hulking, de-mystified Shape = too silvery nipples on Optimus Prime!!<p><p><p>Nuff said!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:35 a.m. CST

    RE:SHATNER AS MYERS

    by TORTURE PWN

    ...and you thought people bitched about Zombie making him 280 lbs. before...

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Shatner should be loomis

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    and because of michael's obsesion with loomis he makes a mask that looks like shatner ..... wow yes thats a good movie right there

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Not bad Dickhard...

    by Dr Gregory House

    ...not bad at all

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:01 p.m. CST

    JohnRevik,

    by thomasjarvis

    *Quentin provided a one-week polish for the script of the movie 'It's Pat' (just a polish, even QT couldn't polish a dogturd and turn it into a diamond) *source 'Quentin Tarantino: Shooting From the Hip' by Wensley Clarkson

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:02 p.m. CST

    "Who gives a fuck?"

    by Darksider

    We do asshole! Zombie is just pissed that his shit script got leaked and we see what a one trick pony he is. Myers isn't a white trash psycho with parental issues. Myers was pure evil. Cold and calculating. That was evident from childhood. That's why he killed. Halloween is about suspense, not psychedelic, over the top madness. That's why you see through the mask. That's why there's no blood. Suspense! The opposite of the shit Zombie makes. Make a Texas Chainsaw movie, asshole. Let someone with some tact make Halloween. Fuck, LET CARPENTER DO IT AGAIN!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:07 p.m. CST

    A director taking critism...

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    ...and LISTENING to that critism in an attempt to improve a money-making cert? I couldn't give two shits about this film - the original did nothing for me anyway - but I'm... shocked.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:09 p.m. CST

    That's "criticism", obviously...

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    Not that you bunch of cunts care...

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Why Shatner As Myers Would Work In RZ's Halloween

    by StockTowns Finest

    Shatner as Myers in Zombie's Halloween would be absolutely perfect, since Zombie wants Myers to be from redneck stock, why not be an all out inbred retard who disguises himself by wearing a mask of his own face. And Fangoria reports that he kills people by charging at them, crushing their throat and eviscerating them...and then utters one word. Now if this remake is going to rat shit anyway, I say he uses the Vulcan Deathgrip and his one word be "Rocketman"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST

    ROB ZOMBIE DOESN'T GET HALLOWEEN!

    by TORTURE PWN

    ...confiscate that man's pumpkins!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Where are all the talkbackers films??

    by dogstar69

    Cause all i seem to read is people tearing into others work. If some of you put as much creativity into your own movies as you do in your comments, Zombie will be watching his back

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:47 p.m. CST

    I disliked *House of 78 Corpses*....

    by lynxpro

    ...but I really enjoyed *The Devil's Rejects*. Maybe John Carpenter should "supervise" and take part in the remake of his classic, kinda like how Grandmaster Flash worked with Duran Duran on their cover of "White Lines". :)

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Darksider, The Force Is Strong In You

    by georges garvaren

    and I agree completely with what you're saying or typing or something. A true Slasher film is slight on gore and heavy on creeps and screams. Gore requires very little audience participation and are often forgettable because of that. 'Halloween' has existed in the public conscience for so long partly because it forced the audience to ask questions and form their own answers. Mr. Zombie appears to be giving us the answers we've often wondered and truly ruining the mystique that makes up a large part of why Michael Myers was always great to watch. That being said, the film will never surpass the original (less talent dictates that) so maybe Mr.Zombie should do what he would likes.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:01 p.m. CST

    dogstar69, if you were any more illogical

    by georges garvaren

    you would be dead. So please, keep trying.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:02 p.m. CST

    the first thing he needs to do

    by slappy jones

    is highlight all of michaels dialogue and delete....

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST

    georges garvaren

    by dogstar69

    you are exactly the type of arsehole i am talking about. Probably a transformers fan aren't you

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Just to be fair...

    by Darksider

    There's different, and there's shit. I am very pro-remake, but it still has to be a good film on it's own despite the changes. I was also very pro Dawn of the Dead 2004. Different from the original, but still good on it's own. My problem is Zombie. His movies are shit to me. If someone remakes Halloween different and rocks it, fine. But I know Rob's track record and this script confirms what I feared. Give this to someone else. Maybe Zach Snyder will be available after 300 or The Watchmen. Still not sure if he's right for that one yet. Alfonso Cuaron would own that movie. Children of Men fucking rocked.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:09 p.m. CST

    mrfan

    by lynxpro

    Pick up on DVD *Doctor Who - The Talons of Weng Chiang* (from the 70s) some time and you'll see how terrifying a midget assassin can be, especially since he's supposed to be a dummy. Its one of Deep Roy's (sic) first roles [as Mr. Sin]; you know, the dude that played the Umpa Loompa(s) in Burton's Choco Factory flick.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:16 p.m. CST

    obvious casting choice...

    by lynxpro

    Mike Myers for the role of Michael Myers.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:20 p.m. CST

    RE: Quint getting served

    by gemil03

    got to agree with the above. It's sad to say but i purchased the Reservoir Dogs script. and had i been an executive reading it, i would have tossed it aside. the script felt flat and lifeless, where the film just exploded off the screen. It could be because i'd seen the film first and knew the outcome, but i think it's a bit early to be judging a movie. But, if it succeeds we can call it a remake, if it sucks we can call it a sequel. Leaving the door open for another inevitable remake 30 years down the line

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST

    If some big studio gave us TBers the kind of loot

    by Doctor_Sin

    they're giving Rob and the other hundreds of douchebag "name" filmmakers, they'd be getting some badass movies for their buck. And, dammit - quit remaking BIG NAME CLASSICS. Just remake 'bad' movies that failed because of their limitations or have not aged well. Hell, I'd rather someone made an all-out, big budget, violent sci-fi/horror revamp of "Plan 9 From Outer Space" than revisit "Halloween."

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Zombie sucks

    by grendel69

    I find the fact that people out there actually like his movies to be more frightening than any tenticled beast to come at me from the Void. At least I have a chance of reasoning with the tenticled beast. I felt my IQ drop watching Devils Rejects. Only a Reject would find any entertainment in such a piece of shit. Its got about as much value as watching someone take a shit for a hour and 1/2. It doesnt suprise me that Zombie fans are so gung ho for him to make Halloween. Theyre his fans, they obviously dont have any taste. If you see a copy of 1000 Corpses or Devils Rejects, destroy it, youll be doing the human race a favor.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Myers worked because...

    by Darksider

    He wasn't crazy and that made him more dangerous. It was personal. It's scarier that the killer is targeting YOU and just killing anyone who got in his way. He was normal enough to walk down the street, drive a car, or enter a store. He could go anywhere. He's just fucking with you! No one would know who he was because he's been locked up for years but he still wears a fucking mask just because! And the mask. A plain, white, blank expression. A reflection of Myers himself. His name is just a pretense. You could imagine anyone's face there. He was the boogeyman. His name wasn't even in the credits. That's how obvious it was. He is just there to scare you.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    More Than Meets The Eye

    by georges garvaren

    That’s me, baby. But come on; do you really think that having an opinion on art (however researched it may be) and creating the art that said opinion may pertain to need to be encompassed in the same person for the opinion (and by that rational, the art) to have any public worth? Are you stating that if one were to do either then one should most certainly do the other? My mother dislikes ‘Gone With The Wind’ ( what a cunt, eh?), but by your rational she should shut her yapper and go make a better film about the American Civil War to prove that her opinion had value. Seems, oh I don’t know, like the reasoning of a child that watches cartoons about morphable robots from another universe. Maybe it’s just me? But, it’s not. And awaaaaay we go!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Dogstar69

    by Yogsoggoth

    If you awnt to bankrol my film, I guarantee it will be better than anything Rob Zombie has ever done or will ever do. Contrary to what you might think, not everyone has the money to make a movie, but everyone can smell a steaming pile of shit.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie...

    by coolhanderik

    IS BOX OFFICE POISON!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    20 thou + 2 actresses who will do nude + Abe Vigoda

    by Doctor_Sin

    will give you a better film than anything Zombie can produce. Even if he filmed himself shitting ostrich eggs, Rob Zombie couldn't compete.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    SHATNER AS LOOMIS... THATS IT!!!

    by dalbatron

    well done dickhard..... Or he was abused whilst Star Trek played on the TV in the background

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Did you know?

    by Darksider

    That Halloween: Resurrection made as much money as both of Zombie's movies combined? Source: boxofficemojo.com

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:41 p.m. CST

    RE: My Comments

    by dogstar69

    your right, everyone can smell a piece of shit, I'm a Huge halloween fan, hell, a framed poster hangs above my marital bed, but i'm not totally averse to a remake, who knows it may actually turn out well, some of the ideas added to the story seemed fine to me, Granted, some were also utter crud. People, we've all got to face a fact, Every movie WILL be remade, reimagined, however you put it. it will return in another form, some might be better than the original over time. But theres no point getting wound up over it. The re*whatever* of Citizen Kane is just waiting around the corner

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Shatner as the stripper mom's redneck boyfriend

    by Doctor_Sin

    Just to hear him tell young Mike: "You are.....a....faggot. *chugs whiskey* Now....I'm....going to.....bang your stripper mom. Don't....take a shit....without...your mask!"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST

    THE ACCEPTANCE OF A REMAKE / REDUX

    by dalbatron

    Yeah they will remake most movies BUT I cannot see in the new script how Zombie can call himself a fan.. it seems to me he totally missed the whole point and is all jacked upon mountain dew.. Zombie with Halloween is like giving a baby a razorblade... shatner as his transexual stripper mom?

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Shatner Should Play Myers

    by georges garvaren

    "I've got...GOT to kill you."

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:57 p.m. CST

    shatner as loomis

    by dalbatron

    with the shape wearing a donald pleasance mask

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:57 p.m. CST

    I'm not opposed to a remake but...

    by Yogsoggoth

    Zombie doesn't even seem to understand the original and what made it work. My first instinct (when I heard Zombie was directing this) was that his directing style doesn't mesh with the material. Everything that I have read since suggests this to be true. Hell, if he wants to remake Friday the 13th, I'm all for it. But, if you are going to remake a film, you have to preserve the basic core of the story or it isn't a remake anymore. The first time I saw Halloween, I was scared shitless. Here was this killer who stalked people for no reason and he COULDN'T BE KILLED (it was a new idea back then). Why did he do it? Don't know. Where did he go at the end of the movie? Under everyone's bed. I just don't think this movie can be remade. We are a different country with a different psychology and the un-killable killer has been done to death. I understand why Zombie wanted to change things up with his remake, but he looses everything that made the original great in the process. I just can't see anyone pulling this off.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST

    give it to peter jackson...

    by dalbatron

    and get serkis to play the shape in cgi form

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 1:59 p.m. CST

    give it to Tim Burton

    by dalbatron

    and get depp to play the shape and bonham as his mom... even better get depp to play the shape and get bonham to play the mask. She can sit on depps face!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2 p.m. CST

    GOT IT !!...

    by dalbatron

    give the role of the shape to Jim Carrey and give him the mask from 'the mask!!!' now that would be crazy fucked up monster!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:01 p.m. CST

    THE ACCEPTANCE OF A REMAKE / REDUX

    by dogstar69

    from what i've heard we've also got an elm street and friday the 13th recreations to come up, possibly even another shot at hellraiser (i read this in the british publication of The Dark Side, i think)

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:02 p.m. CST

    dogstar...

    by dalbatron

    FUCK ME THE LAZY LAZY BASTARDS

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Shatner as a voice in Mike's head telling him to kill

    by Doctor_Sin

    "Take...another life! Don't...forget....the mask!"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:05 p.m. CST

    THE VOICE!!

    by dalbatron

    "youve...got..to kill again! " Funny as fuck!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Re: The Voice

    by Doctor_Sin

    LOL, dalbatron <p> "You must....stab once more. I....am.....hungry for lives! No...no...wait for them....to smoke weed....or....to....start having sex!"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Let Shatner direct.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    He did a hell of a job with Star Trek 5, "The Search For More Money".

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Doctor Sin

    by dalbatron

    "YES!...YES!... thats it!! Now...move upstairs...slowly.. youve..got to kill....Picture yourself...in a boat on a river... With tangerine trees...and marmalade skies..Kill...Kill...KILL!!!"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST

    tompbeast..you swine!!!

    by dalbatron

    Shats is a phenomenally versatile actor with a huge rance of acting skills... Oh hold on im thinking of Robert Deniro

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Have Joe Pesci play Loomis

    by Doctor_Sin

    "What? Another fucking mask? What? You gotta take a shit now or something? What is this? Fucking Mardi Gras? Fucking Hallo-fucking-ween? Yeah, dat's right. Dat's right, you mask-wearing fuck. You little fucking redneck brat. You fucking whacko. What the fuck is wrong wit' you? Huh? What? Am I just talkin' to myself here? Am I? Of course I fucking am. I'm fucking talking to myself. With this shit-mask wearing fucking whacko fucking sitting here like a fucking statue!"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Pesci - the voice...

    by dalbatron

    " Yeah take the knife? You fuckin kiddin me.. not that fuckin knife? What are you? a fuckin retard? The big knife! Jesus fuckin christ. YES that knife? What is this kindergarden? Now go up the motherfuckin stairs! Are you for real motherfucker! be quiet.Jesus to got lead in them shoes or just shit for brains maotherfucker! you want those little snot nosed pricks to hear you.. Hey!! You listening to me.. ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME!"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:02 p.m. CST

    danny trejo

    by dalbatron

    get danny trejo to play the shape and just leave the mask off. that would scare the bejesus out of me

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:12 p.m. CST

    The Guy from Johnny Dangerously-the voice

    by thefreeagents

    You faaargin bastages. I taka the knife and I cutta offa your bells and shove them upa your icehole!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Dang!

    by Sigmar25

    There goes our Danielle Harris money-shot

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Re: That Bloody Disgusting article

    by Doctor_Sin

    I love how filmmakers like him get all pissy with that whole counter-culture "don't be influenced by what everyone else thinks" bullshit. Rob - we read that summary and it was my opinion that what I read SUCKED. No one told me it sucked. I just think your ideas reek. Oh, and fuck that whole "go see it for yourself" crap, because Mr. Zombie ain't mailing me a refund of the ticket if it blows. That's profit into the film, assbag. If Rob had balls, he'd do a Q&A. Yeah, Rob thinks we suck - and yet he's off doing rewrites like a little puddy tat.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:32 p.m. CST

    I got an idea Rob

    by VERY METAL

    Instead of writing a new script why not write off this whole terrible idea of even thinking that you could remake halloween! NO MORE FUCKING REMAKES! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Danny Devito as Mike Myers

    by samdamme

    Halloween meets Throw Momma from the Train. Criss, cross. You kill my ex-wife and I'll kill EVERYONE on Halloween. M'kay?

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:53 p.m. CST

    ROB ZOMBIE

    by dalbatron

    ROB ZOMBIE IS THE HORROR GENRES MICHAEL BAY

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 3:58 p.m. CST

    A serious message for Rob:

    by Doctor_Sin

    Look - I would love to see you film some sick and twisted scuz-fest with some disturbed, abused kid who suffers all through life and turns into a pathetic, albeit ultraviolent, serial killer/slasher. Do it, don't rewrite it. BUT - that is NOT "Halloween." <p> That is a film that is closer to old stuff like "Maniac," where the ultraviolence is somehow countered with us pitying the creature we are hating and rooting against. Make your film about some white trash kid who goes through hell to come out the other end cold, emotionless, and full of hate and violence. But, that isn't "Halloween." <p> Why *remake* stuff? Start from scratch. Why be a part of the ugliest side of the industry you are capable of challenging at every turn? <p> Why not "Rob Zombie's Bred to Kill" or some other exploitation-style title? Honestly, just give up the remake idea and concentrate on quality original product. You've got it in you. Regardless of if any TBer likes your flicks or not, you'll win more fans by bringing something REALLY new to the table, not buttfucking a classic film. That's really what we see Hollywood as doing now - degrading the beloved films we grew up with. Don't fall into a "TCM" remake fiasco. <p>Basically, if someone asks me if I wanna see a new Rob Zombie film or if I wanna see a remake/revisiting/reimagining of "Halloween," I'll pick the former. Even if you made a dozen films and I hated them all, I would give a new film by you a chance if it wasn't masquerading as some remake, and I would gladly spend a Saturday afternoon in the theater. To many, the very word "remake" or (shudder) "reimagining" is anathema. Myself included. <p>Look, if Rob sees this in any way, pass it along that he needs to either respect the legacy of a great film or just be original and make his own movie his own way and be original about it and not try to tie it in with "Halloween." No more remakes.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:03 p.m. CST

    I'm cutting Rob some slack (I must be crazy)

    by Doctor_Sin

    But, damn it, I don't think any of us would be half as pissed off if we saw that script review and the film was called something like "Rob Zombie's Twisted Sickfuck Nightmare." Rob says he respects this film, but he is just another hack downing creativity laxatives and shitting out buckets of bullshit. I'm challenging Rob to prove me wrong.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:09 p.m. CST

    DAMN YOU ZOMBAY!

    by TORTURE PWN

    ...so there!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Billy Bob Thornton as Loomis

    by Doctor_Sin

    "Grumble....grumble...mumble....take a shit...mumble...grumble...you fucking little brat....mumble...mumble....pure evil....grumble....mumble...asshole."

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Fucking brilliant quote below.....

    by grendel69

    "ROB ZOMBIE IS THE HORROR GENRES MICHAEL BAY" Amen.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST

    GRENDEL YOU HAVE TASTE

    by dalbatron

    Whenever I used to hear Rob Zombie i thought anti-establishment... this is in direct conflict with the notion of a halloween re-whatever.. Lets be honest when Bay did "Playboy Video Centerfold: Kerri Kendall" we thought he had a great future.. Now look at him. Zombie stop the car now.. back up and take the turning signposted "refreshingly different director"

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:53 p.m. CST

    i still wonder why...

    by TORTURE PWN

    someone who claims to love a film that struck such a nerve with the public that it not only became a film classic but kicked off the entire sub-genre of the slasher film(I'm not counting BLACK CHRISTMAS)would want to imitate the worst of the imitations.Not only that, but to claim that by doing so is doing something different/original.As I said before,Zombie's previous two films weren't much more than recycled scenes,character names,and half assed Tarantino wannabe dialog.It seems as though he's looked at every other crappy HALLOWEEN knockoff for inspiration and only paying minimal lip service to the original.They should call this movie 'William Lustig's HALLOWEEN as filtered through Rob Zombie'.(absolutly NO offense meant towards Mr.Lustig.BLUE UNDERGROUND FOREVER!!!!)

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    PICKLES!!!

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I am so tired of remakes. Rob Zombie sucks. His music is a one trick pony and his horror films are nothing more then bad rip offs of Tobe Hoopers style. Zombie ranks right up there with that other wanna be overhyped douche bag, Eli Roth.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Kerri Kendal ...

    by grendel69

    was my favorite vid after the Van Breeschooten Twins. I remember being in a gym back in the early 90s and hearing Zombies Children of the Grave cover on the radio. I was laughed so goddamn hard my side hurt.People were looking at me. I said "who the fuck is that?" and some guy said "Rob Zombie man" The guys a hack and a brainless scumbag.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 5:05 p.m. CST

    sorry meant White Zombie

    by grendel69

    Peace

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 5:07 p.m. CST

    christopher walken as loomis

    by dalbatron

    " hah... you just sit there.....no expression... knife in hand...come here, come come here.... let me tell YOU something....pause pause smile smile... you piece of shit..."

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Did he cut out the part about the Midi-chlorians?

    by JAGUART

    Whew.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Re: Shatner as Myers

    by JAGUART

    Three Words: Flying Leg Kick.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:21 p.m. CST

    was he really gonna use a diffrent mask

    by adzigjo

    and why does Zombie make films now? who gave the green light to start this shit

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:47 p.m. CST

    YOU FOOLS! We probably won't see Danielle NEKKID now!!

    by Rex Manning

    BAH!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Shatner as Loomis...Rick Moranis as Myers

    by Bong

    Now that would be awesome

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Pesci as Loomis

    by Dr Gregory House

    "Ok ok ok ok. They fuck you at the asylum. First they drug you, then they fuck you. And when they are done fucking you along comes the Haddonfield Police Department and fucks you some more."

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST

    burn this idea already.

    by future help

    BURN IT TO THE GROUND! same goes with an Evil Dead remake. same goes with a Hannibal prequel. same goes with yadda yadda yadaa!!!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:24 p.m. CST

    WWF to Halloween...fuck me!!

    by dalbatron

    To go from WWF songs to Halloween is like going from filming playboy to making transformers. WRONG WRONG WRONG... AGAIN ITS LIKE GIVING A BABY A RAZORBLADE... SHATNERSHOULD APPEAR AS THE VOICE LIKE ELVIS IN TRUE ROMANCE

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST

    ZOMBIES MYSPACE PAGE IS HILARIOUS

    by dalbatron

    I suppose the point is ... if you dont give a fuck what AICN thinks then why are you ranting on about it on your page... He is almost a self parody now. He doesnt care what people think.. Eerm.. isnt that his job as a paid director?

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 9:30 p.m. CST

    I know he will pull through with this

    by streakerfreak1983

    I felt betrayed when I first heard the news, but I think or at least I hope he can pull this all together just right.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Jessica Biel as Laurie Strode.

    by darthbinks1220

    Yeah I know she's been making the rounds in lame horror remakes (Chainsaw), and sequels (Trinity). She was however, the bright spot in both those turkeys. Jessica is a talented actress, with very expressive emotions. While she is glamourous, I think she could play the bookish Strode. Jamie Lee was beautiful w/ a real-life lifestyle very much like "totally" Lynda, yet tranformed into the repressed heroine very well. Biel is younger than Danielle Harris, so age shouldn't be an issue.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie?

    by TORTURE PWN

    ...let him starve.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 12:57 a.m. CST

    KingKirby is right...

    by Seph_J

    ... I would see THAT film. Also, I would love to see Shatner as Myers. It would be BEYOND cool.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 1 a.m. CST

    don't care I still wont see it.

    by Power_Girl

    It will still suck!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Surprisingly AMAZING casting ideas...

    by Seph_J

    ... My God, Shatner as Myers... or indeed Loomis. Pesci as Loomis.... WALKEN as Loomis!! My God, although these ideas began as jokes, I seriously would love to see all of them play the roles. Well done everyone for some inspired ideas. Pesci or Walken as Loomis... wow.... I can't stop thinking about it.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Don't remake Halloween, just scenes from it...

    by Ravetin

    Key scenes of Myers and Loomis with different actors. I like Pesci as Loomis. "I tell ya, I met this fucking fucked up son of a bitch years ago. Crazy little faggot couldn't even tell the fuckin' difference between life and death, like he had no fucking conscience at all. Holy shit, and the kid's eyes. You should've seen the fucking kid's eyes, black as fuckin' shit. I tell ya, there was one thing, absolutely one fucking thing behind that boy's eyes.."--ah, you know the rest.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Casting...

    by Cellar Door

    I still think McDowell is good casting for Loomis. <p><p><p>"Ho, Ho, Ho... Well, if it isn't stinking Mikeygoat, Mikeyboy in poison. How are thou, thou globby bottle of cheap stinking chip oil? Come and get one in the yarbles, if you have any yarbles, you eunuch jelly thou."<p><p><p>Now that's pure sweetness says I!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST

    TO QUINT AND OTHER CRY BABYS

    by lilpottan

    this crying and whining has gone on long enough. if rob zombies halloween came out first in 1978, carpenter was the one remaking it in 07, all of you would STILL bitch and moan about it because everyone seems to be close minded!! its a new damn movie, with a new vision. it doesnt need to be the exact same movie from 78! ive been a die hard fan since age 5 when i first saw the series, and NOTHING could ever be worse than H20 or Resurrection!! this is a new beginning, so let the man do HIS job and make the best he can with this film... there NEEDS to be a method/reason for michaels madness, whether its a screwed up family, thorn, genital herpes, or impotence!! this movie doest have to be much better than the first, but it will def. kick every other Halloween sequels ASSSSS!!! and let the man talk! its just a damn word!

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 12:27 p.m. CST

    CGI Busta-Rhymes Rematch!!!

    by Sigmar25

    Christopher Lloyd as Dr. Loomis, Lou Ferrigno as The Shape, Bill Bixby as Laurie Strode - and a new soundtrack by Nickleback!

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Sigmar25

    by mr. brownstone

    what you are describing is an alternate universe version of the original. Christopher Lloyd as Dr. Loomis, Lou Ferrigno as The Shape -- yes. But Bill Bixby would have played Sheriff Brackett and the soundtrack was by Tangerine Dream because the studio didn't trust Carpenter to do i himself. Now close your eyes and imagine...

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Ya now what..

    by Sigmar25

    I don't care who does the soundtrack as long as we get to hear Michael Myers finally talk - he's SOOO quiet! It's like oh my god!

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Not delayed

    by grendel69

    according to fuckgoria speaking to the hack himself. This piece of shit is doomed. Adrienne Barbeau and Clint Howard are in it now too.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 6 p.m. CST

    to grendel69

    by lilpottan

    if its doomed, then dont watch it....

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 6 p.m. CST

    to grendel69

    by lilpottan

    if its doomed, then dont watch it....

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 6:37 p.m. CST

    I wont

    by grendel69

    Why the hell would I want to subject myself to a trainwreck puked out by a talentless hack. Then again Danielle Harris naked.... That would prob be enough to make me download it a few days after it hits theaters. Watching Pan's Labyrinth again now. When this thing hit DVD? Good ole Guillermo. At least he has some respect for genres films and talent to spare.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 7:32 p.m. CST

    lilpottan

    by HotblackDesiato

    You are a fucking retard. You have no understanding of anything regarding the original film. You are simply a sycophant of Zombie, a man who has filled the world with lousy stupid music and is now filling it with lousy stupid movies. Even if he eliminates any connection with Halloween this movie STILL sounds really stupid, especially from someone who can't write dialogue, stage a coherent scene or tell a story. Garbage plain and simple at it's very core.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 11:18 p.m. CST

    I Was A Ninja Turtle For Halloween.

    by georges garvaren

    My mom made it for me. I love my orange colored VHS copy of 'Halloween'. Oddly enough, the 'TMNT: Secret of the Ooze' soundtrack was packaged in a orange cassette. Rob Zombie’s favorite film is ‘A Clockwork Orange’. What does all this 'orange' have to do with a remake of ‘Halloween’? If you don’t know then Rob Zombie has already won.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 11:24 p.m. CST

    People want to be spoonfed....

    by grendel69

    Anyone who thinks Michaels needs a backstory or is a common textbook mass murderer doesnt understand the film at all are are missing the whole theme of Myers being without any sort of humanity. I mean,are they brainless or what? These Zombie supporters just want to see cool killings. They have no appreciate for the significance of the film, its brilliance or its place in film history.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 12:12 a.m. CST

    okay seriously

    by lilpottan

    people listen...... i've been a DIE HARD fan since childhood.... HotblackDesiato, seriously dude, dont tell me i have no understanding regarding the original.... i watch the original atleast 3 times a month for the past 8 or 9 years... first of all, you people are in rant about something that was NOT 100% confirmed.... secondly, there was NO hope in continuing the franchise by following up ANYTHING after HII... The story was dead... they totally killed the whole jamie lloyd charachter after MICHAEL IMPREGNATES HER in H6.. yet, theres nothing wrong with that?? the only good thing that HAS happened is that a remake was planned.... and what do you people expect from this??? why the hell would anyone copy clip for clip from the original??? its pointless... i'm not a rob zombie fan... i dont think theres anything wrong with his music, the instrumentals are amazing, he has a decent voice, but im not into his style of music... but everyone has more than enough complained and bitched about the same ish over and over and over, and it needs to stop... because honestly, it will NOT change a damn thing..... you people want to see michael for 14 movies, just kill random people, for NO reason, i think that is freakin retarded, and YOU have no taste in story or charachter.... u wanna see a big guy in a mask killing people for no reason, go to blockbusters and rent out any of the 49,000 Friday the 13th movies...

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 12:31 a.m. CST

    You've Seen This Movie Over 300 Times?

    by georges garvaren

    Man, that's psycho.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 1 a.m. CST

    A million zombies at a million typewriters

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Would come up with a better Halloween script than Rob Z.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 1:13 a.m. CST

    uuuuh no

    by grendel69

    "you people want to see michael for 14 movies, just kill random people, for NO reason, i think that is freakin retarded, and YOU have no taste in story or charachter.... u wanna see a big guy in a mask killing people for no reason" NO THATS what your going to get with Zombies version.Serial killer cliches and gore. If they really wanted to do something different they should go back to what made the first one so great since its been 30 years since that was done. Weve seen nothing but gory slashers for years. Halloween wasnt a slasher. As I said elsewhere, Its the Loomis Myers dynamic that makes the first one so great. Myers should defy all of Loomis training,beliefs,and rational - thats what makes Loomis driven. And you cant have that with Myers being a textbook killer. Whats the point, the FBI has file cabinets full of textbook killers, just bring them in on the case. All Loomis will need to understand Zombies Myers is any serial killer book - Myers must be a enigma. It also make swearing the blank emotionaless mask stupid. It looses the whole point if Myers is gonna show emotion.he never should, especially whiel killing. He shoudl never be humanized. Not even a little bit. Myers showing emotional pain?? Its a a betrayal of the basic concept that makes the character, his dynamic with Loomis and movie work. Zombie isnt even gonna flesh out the characters Myers is gonna stalk according to the script review, they appear so late. Myers stalks his victims. Its called stalk for a reason. How are we supposed to care about them, how are they supposed to become rounded characters if we dont spend any time with them before they lined up for the slaughter (which Im sure will be bitchin in Zombies version). Sorry but every idea he has goes against the basics of what makes Halloween great. The first film wasnt a slasher. Zombies will be.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Con't

    by grendel69

    Dont even get me started on the guys dialogue or his incompetence with a camera. Halloween should ooze atmosphere, not shaky cam quick MTV edits. Damn get Danny Boyle, Alexandre Aja, Paul Greengrass - somebody, anybody but this guy. Its X3 all over again. A rushed production of a shitty script. But Zombie doesnt even have a shred of Ratners talent or ability so, yes we're doomed.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 1:51 a.m. CST

    grendel

    by lilpottan

    if its doomed then dont watch it

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 1:59 a.m. CST

    =) just messin dude...lets

    by lilpottan

    =) just messin dude...lets just hope 4 the best.... its all about michael!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Shoulda got...

    by TORTURE PWN

    Shoulda got Argento.I'm tellin ya.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Argento w/ Carpenter producing/writing

    by TORTURE PWN

    Put J.C. in a capacity similar to Cravens on the 'Hills'remake just to keep him on track.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 1:31 p.m. CST

    lilpottan, You are assuming things that aren't true

    by HotblackDesiato

    I think the sequels suck, too. I don't want another color-by-numbers entry. And I don't care that it's being remade. Remake everything for all I care. And Zombie not denying any of this is as good as confirming it. He's been opening his mouth every other day regarding the movie and never have I seen him say "no, there is no I gotta poop mask." If he did point me to it and I'll retract my statement. My point is and will be that his approach to the remake is fine, but his storyline and concepts are stupid and repetative. He's doing the same thing he failed at twice before. The guy seems to think that if he tries really really hard to make EVERYTHING edgey and scary and outrageous then it will be good. No, when you do that all you get is white noise. When everything is loud then NOTHING is loud. His 2 previous films are just that. They look good and show some skill with a camera, but they are essentially artificial and forced to the point of numbness. Hell, even numbness is to kind. There is nothing in them that make me think another shot of this immature filmmaking is the cure for what ails this franchise. He is--as Marty DiBergi once related to Spinal Tap--treading water in a sea bad poetry and retarded sexuality. Not to mention just poor filmmaking. Again, different does not automatically equal good.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Here's an idea...

    by TORTURE PWN

    Make HALLOWEEN an anthology series using a different directors take on the original every year.Examples:"Dario Argento's Halloween","David Fincher's Halloween","Quentin Tarantino's"...,"Clive Barker's..."etc.That way we won't get locked into a string of even lamer sequels based on Zombie's already lame mythology.It would be an urban legend type of thing that changes somewhat with each telling but still honors the original.I think this is a pretty good idea if I may say so myself.Any seconds?

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    But...

    by TORTURE PWN

    Michael Bay's not invited.

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST

    First!

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    To be the one to second your excellent idea Torture pwn

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Only if they are allowed to include elements of

    by INWOsuxRED

    Season of the Witch when shooting their anthology. The best things to remake are things with potential, that failed on execution, and Season of the Witch fits that bill way more than Halloween. Personally I think Halloween works when it is edited for broadcast TV, and that is because it isn't a gore fest, but a cool movie that spawned some bad immitations. This world needs less children masterbating to dead andimals, and MORE MASS MURDERING OF CHILDREN WITH RIDICULOUS SCHEMES INVOLVING COOL MASKS, PLEASE! Silver Shamrock!

  • Jan. 20, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    INWOsuxRED...

    by TORTURE PWN

    Absolutely!I've actually had an idea including Silver Shamrock in the origin of Michael Myers but thats just a little personal 'what if' type thing.Actually a full on remake of Halloween3 would rock HARD in the right hands.I would suggest David Cronenberg.

  • Jan. 21, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Rob seems hell-bent on trying to impress with the cast

    by WesReviews

    Too bad, he should've spent more time trying to impress with the script. What's he gonna do next? Try to resurrect Boris Karloff and cast him as Loomis' sidekick? Zombie claims that the movie is different...that it 'changes' minute to minute and all that bullshit. The fact remains, Ken Foree is still among the cast and that means his character is still in the film...And any Halloween movie directed by Zombie that has a character by the name of "Big Joe Grizzly", certainly gives me pause. Zombie just doesn't get it. Halloween wasn't an exploitation film. Michael Myers isn't a serial killer (if you ignore the sequels and base things solely on the first movie). Why the hell is he doing this, if he's a 'fan'? Tarantino is a fan of plenty of horror flicks, and you don't see him doing this. Whoever said "if Moustapha Akkad were alive, he wouldn't have let this happen" was right on the money. He may have stopped Helloween, as well, but I'd much rather see Michael & Pinhead duke it out than this soon-to-be House of 1000 Corpses type shitfest. Just because someone remade Texas Chainsaw Massacre, doesn't mean you have to piss all over another beloved horror classic, Rob!

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