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The Following Takes Place Between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m.!! Hercules Has Seen The First 4 New Hours of 24 Since May!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
Here’s what we don’t get in the first four hours. No Charles or Martha Logan, no Aaron Pierce, no Audrey Raines, no Kim Bauer, no Naked Mandy, no Soul-Patch Tony, no Ricky Schroeder, no Paul McCrane, and no sporty jacksack. And we don’t yet meet Jack’s father or brother.
You’re not likely to notice their absences. What happens in the first four hours of “24’s” sixth season, which takes up all of the Fox network’s primetime schedule Sunday and Monday, compensates splendidly.
We do meet Wayne and David’s lawyering sister (Regina King), and her boyfriend, played by Harry Lennix, the “knuckle-up” guy from the “Matrix” movies. We reconnect with “Deep Space Nine’s” Alexander Siddig, who plays the handsomest terrorist in the history of terrorism. Kal Penn, who played one of the title roles in the stoner movie about White Castle, plays here a teen of Mideast descent who finds himself menaced by neighbors enraged at the escalating series of deadly terrorist attacks on American soil. Peter MacNicol appears in all four hours, and presumably a fifth, despite the fact that he already has a full-time job as a regular on CBS’ “Numb3rs.”
And the Jack Bauer of season six is not the Jack Bauer of seasons one through five. Before he spent two years being tortured in a Chinese prison camp, Jack incessantly found himself making tough choices, but always seemed to make the best ones.
Not so much anymore. As season six begins, Jack hasn’t said a word in two years. He is covered in horrifying scars. He doesn’t know Wayne Palmer is now president. And Jack’s instincts are shot; he no longer makes the right choices. He is a Jack Bauer who, mid-mission, can fall weeping to the ground in front of all the other government agents.
I’d love to reveal more but Fox might stop sending screeners (and I might be tempted to rip the episodes off the bittorrents like everybody else).
I will say this: It’s hard to imagine that people will be talking about much else come Tuesday morning.
How does it end, spoiler-boy? “There’s four more of these things out there.”
And what matters Herc’s opinion?
USA Today gives it four stars (out of four) and says:
… that's what you get with Sunday and Monday's four-hour return: TV's top action/adventure, reinvented once more, the same and yet completely, thrillingly different. … what's remarkable is that 24 still finds so many ways to surprise us, to take our knowledge of how things are done and turn it against us. Once again, it's a hugely enjoyable if daunting lesson, for anyone planning a serial, on what a serial should be. ……
Entertainment Weekly gives it a “B” and says:
… This year could finally be Jack’s year to fascinate – the surefire man, unsure. Otherwise, this round of mayhem has little to differentiate itself. … 24 just needs to let its strongest character get weaker.
TV Guide says:
… 24's first four hours, airing over two nights, aren't quite as electrifying as last season's opening act. CTU is less fun minus some of last year's casualties, and watching Chloe's ex, Morris (Carlo Rota), squabble with middle manager Milo (Eric Balfour) is truly tiresome. But none of these problems diminish the pulse-pounding pleasures of watching 24. The nastier things get — and by the end of the fourth hour, this day is an absolute nightmare — the more we love it and dread that moment when the clock strikes a new hour, signaling the episode is over. …
The New York Times says:
… Every new season of this Fox thriller is another twist of a kaleidoscope: the same pieces — terrorists; counterterrorists (and, almost inevitably, a mole); an innocent suburban family; and the president, his aides and his family — are tumbled together to form new patterns around the central figure of the special agent Jack Bauer. And that makes the four-hour, two-part premiere on Sunday and Monday both comfortingly familiar and strangely gripping. …
The Chicago Tribune says:
… A story line about a hostage situation and several of Jack’s narrow escapes feel familiar, if not recycled, but “24’s” writers are so expert at taut pacing that such déjà vu moments slip by fairly painlessly. In any case, “24’s” secret weapon — the thing that makes the show’s fans positively antsy for Monday nights — is in the fact that the show isn’t just an action thriller: There are many other layers to get lost in.
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The San Francisco Chronicle says:
… That "24" could be seriously considered for Emmys and Golden Globes is incomprehensible, not to mention wrong, but that doesn't make it any less addictive and entertaining. Season 6 proves that the best part of "24" is its ability to make your pulse race as you sit slack jawed in front of the bastard machine mumbling, "They didn't just do that, did they?" There are at least four of those moments in the first four hours, including a plot twist that is not only ill conceived and unbelievable, but will certainly annoy the bejesus out of faithful viewers. But that, in turn, helps create the "anything can happen" environment that "24" has cultivated.…
The Hollywood Reporter says:
… once again, it's heart-in-your-throat time. This show consistently grabs your innards, shakes and doesn't stop. And the year opens with a darker and more disturbing story line than ever … This remains a superb, positively riveting TV drama, however repetitive the themes and grandly implausible the scenarios. Just don't ask me to say any more. …
Variety says:
… The four episodes previewed are far from flawless, but even with their lapses and excesses, I can hardly wait for the next hour. … It spoils nothing, too, to say the show delivers a couple of visceral jolts on its second night -- the kind necessary to maintain a real sense of jeopardy. Through such moments, "24" provides the best of both worlds -- thrilling escapism that invites you to check your brain at the door, and events that can be contemplated, off and on, until the train boards again 167 hours later.
8 p.m. Sunday and Monday. Fox.
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My first first ever.
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...who want to seem all toff with their nones in the air regarding "this kind of thing" nonetheless are still forced to pony up and say how good the show is, even if they do it through gritted teeth or in backhanded compliments.
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That'd be season five. Got my fingers crossed for this one though, but it already has a strike against it due to no Tony.ZOMBIE ALMEIDA FTW!!!
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Can the 24 universe please merge with the LIVING DEAD universe? I would be ever so grateful...
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Good to have you back, Jack.
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Believes in the 'dream', be damned any that stand his way of preserving it. Best drama EVER on TV. Turn the phones off, fire up the tube and put on the seatbelts...Jack is back to deliver all the action, danger, and five across the eyes you can handle! Heroes is now officially VCR/DVR fodder! Battlestar what? Lost is lousy! C.S.I.: Crappy Stupid Idiotic! Desperate who? Law & Order: Poop Scooper Unit! The time is now to bow down before the power of Bauer! You have been warned.
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TV heaven is here for the next few months...
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Ummm...no. Mostly illogical, violent, direct, and most certainly outlandish for maximum audience effect. Still, if at least for the first four eps, we get a different Jack, and the not the same old Jack, I'll be happy. Admittedly, Formula 24 works, but they've gotta mix it up at some point before it reaches broken record stage.
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You have to forgive the guy. He's still a bit cranky from going to bed only to wake up the next morning and discovering that he now has custom flames painted on his chest and nipples, signed "Congratulations. You are now my bitch. Love and kisses, Michael Bay."As for 24 and Season 6, I'm sure the Jack Bauer Power Hour will once again kick all kinds of serious ass and remind us why it is hands down the absolute BEST show on TV, bar none. Pizza, beer and whatever other snacks are on hand together with back-to-back playoff football games and then Jack's return in a 2 hour premiere. Does a Sunday off plopped on the couch in front of the TV get any better? I think NOT.
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Yes, it's nihilistic and evil, because the main character does not care about anything. Nor does he care about the consequences, and will throw EVIL down upon his advesaries. That's the best you can do with that bullshit of a nickname? Seriously? I am not even close to being a Republican. However, please explain to me, how the head writers who lean more to right, are so sucky. When they spent last year writing an allegory that can easily be projected onto the current administration. If you want to complain about good writing. At least be deft enough to realize what the fuck the writers are writing about...it would be appreciated. VIVA LA BAUER! VIVA LA JACK SACK! VIVA LA JIMMY!
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The VP Dick loves this show. If that isn't an indication of the bullshit level, I don't know what is.
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I told ya, 24 is a very liberal show. It illuminates the excess of government without restriction.
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Wouldn't Syriana be the bigger resume builder than trek?
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I find that highly ironic considering the content of Season 5. Season 4 was a neo-con's wet dream though, so maybe that's where he got on board.
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But bad language is a no-no, (except that "I can get my own fucking job" line from the season 4 preview).Wouldn't it be awesome if HBO had made this show from the start?
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Battlestar galactica...I mean, really...
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I'm now in a catatonic state waiting for next monday.
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Why waste your time being a contrarian twat on a TB about a show you hate?
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No matter how good it may be, it loses every last shred of credibility by using shitty bands like Nikelback in its commercials. ;)
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Lennix was not the "knuckle up" guy from "The Matrix Revolutions - instead, he was the dickhead commander who was always naysaying everything Morpheus believed in.
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I just hope I enjoy it. As I have a strange relationship with this show.
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all haters should be shot by cheney!
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and actually watch the show. i generally dont watch much TV (broadcast anyways) but i dont think i can resist this any longer.
oh and speaking of terrorists and shit...anyone down for a game of R6:Vegas? if u have Xbox live my handle is RedWolfGreyFox. add me if u wanna play -
clearly is not living in the same universe as people who can recognise a quality show when we see one.
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I believe went to work on a space station for a while. I guess it was to make time for him to work on this.
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thank you internet! seems to be back in gear, although i kinda have already started to drift off a bit between eps 3 & 4, nice to see another star trek alumini join the show... and for anyone whose seen the first 4 eps, i must say that the death in ep 4 was just ridiculous and so out of character
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He was on Commander In Chief, now he's hanging around another TV White House. I can't help be annoyed by him. He's one of those actors who has to overcome being famous in a dickhead role, like the EPA guy from Ghostbusters.
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Jan 14, 2007 10:05:38 AM CST
The first four hours plus Act I of hour 5 are maybe...
by atticus finch
The best of the series so far. I love how Jack is unsure of himself at times. And when he goes all Dracula on a terrorist!
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I completely disagree, Mr_X. I'll be back after the episode airs tomorrow night if you want to discuss why.
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I know I'm nit picking. But I've not seen a president with facial hair in years. He looks more like a model than the president of the United States. just an observation
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MacNicol's character on Numb3rs is indeed taking a break from being in the stories, as he is orbiting the earth. Here's hoping he rocks the shit out of 24.
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The first four episodes are fantastic. Thanks to Kumar and Barak Obama joining the cast.
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Twenty Bore
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It's cool that they can take a character that is extremely world weary, and attempt to break him even more....Two years in a Chinese prison camp?? I just re-watched season 1....everything that's happened to this man over the course of six or seven years...and he's still loyal and stand-up...He's lost his job three or four times, almost lost his life several times, lost his wife to his co-worker ans ex-lover...estranged from his daughter, lost his friends and co-workers...falsely accused and arrested...murdered several souls that are on his consience, addicted to heroin, saved the world five times with no thank you's....and most of the time it's for some bogus politician... When the show wraps up in two years, Jack should really be offered a presidential seat and run the country (if they don't have Jack die in the last episode..)
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I count only 3 holy crap moments 1 in ep1 and 2 in ep4.
The Morris thing is absolutly aweful.
Sans the 10 min killing of Palmer / Dessler last season the start wasn't that great. And I really dont recall too many of these poor decision jack's made so far, no more so than in the past. -
Because there are movies! The last scene of the last episode should be Jack and Kim finishing the chess game they were playing at the end of Day 1.
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I have no idea I guess. I'm just not into TV shows on such a loyal following. I never liked Kiefer sutherland either. What kind of a name is Kiefer? I also never understood why people like despressing, tragic stuff on TV. How many TV shows in history haved started with someone getting murdered? Aren't you people tired of this. Oh and hospital shows, yuck! I hate hospitals. Why would I wanna see one on TV? Oh and forensic shows, wtf. Are you people that morbid? No one makes happy shows anymore. Let's make shows about Terrorist on showtime. Let's remind you of 9/11. Lets give terrorist ideas. I don't get my country when it comes to TV.
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I think I'm surrendering this year from the pushing of my friends who say it's so great. So, will I appreciate it even without knowing lots of back story? Oh, and Orion, I know what you mean somewhat. I mean, I didn't mind when the main cop shows were L&O and NYPD Blue, but I barely even watch L&O anymore. Week after week of murder takes a toll. And the confusingly popular SVU added some nice disturbing aspects to the crime to sicken us even more. Don't worry, someone will buck the trend and start a new trend with a happier, more fun "drama" show we can watch that includes no death. Then again, that's what comedies are for.
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they make places for people like you. They're called Libraries. Go check one out. they have thousands of different types of stories for you to enjoy. no one is forcing you to watch TV, since it apperently upsets you so much. in the mean time. please leave us alone to enjoy these shows and we will do the same for you.
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Cool concept, a good way to give him the rest that he deserves....the only thing that I think that could be added to the show is showing a flashback to when Jack recieved his military training (ala Benicio Del Toro in "The Hunted")....Maybe even put it in the movie to create a new antagonist for one of the final seasons....Creating new characters that should re-appear in the 24 universe, not ones that are just created new...
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why do u watch tv?
LO sucks its not even creative you like that show that just copies real life? so you're sick of carnage but watch a show that obscenely just copies it? they do have some channels for you like the new CW or PBS. I for one am a huge fan of the knowledge channels like Discovery, History, Science...etc. -
I think you will enjoy this season without having seen any others. Granted, there's a little more appreciation if you've seen the others. But really, given how the casts are constantly morphing year after year, and how Jack has become more and more alone, there is less a concern about what happened last year. I say definitely check it out. I personally thought the first four episodes were the four best consecutive episodes I've ever seen.
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FINALLY!! I got me an appointment with the Big Screen, Surround Sound, a nice tall cup of Hot Chocolate (with marshmallows of course), and two hours of Ass Whoopin Jack Bauer Power. What more could one possibly ask for; Pizza maybe.
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Closer to Zombiedom than Vampirism.
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on the series finale it turns out to all be a dream and jack bauer is a CSR at macy's.
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if you never saw the show. I started watching at Season 5, probably the worst possible one to start with. I didn't know I was supposed to care when Tony and company died and it was hard catching up until I got the other 4 seasons.
With Season 6, almost everyone is dead so there's not a lot of interpersonal backstories to learn. You know from the commercials that Jack's being held by the Chinese. The reason why isn't important except to say he took a fall to save the (then) President's ass. -
Tim Goodman is one of the best, funniest and most vitriolic television writers in mainstream AND online news. He quite enjoys 24, he just simply is acknowledging the that show is ridiculous, which is exactly why many (if not most) of us like it.
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no spoilers here, but Jack tells you everything you need to know about getting up.
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Perhaps you'd like this show if it featured nothing but in-depth discussions about healthcare written by Aaron Sorkin, and plenty of "West Wing"-esque "walk-and-talks"? Pffft. Get bent, you fucking hippie.
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yes we know these 4 hours of 24 have been available as a torrent for a few days now. just cause youve seen them already do dosnt give you the right to ruin for those of us who are waiting. thanks alot jerk
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Why am I all drippings with goo?
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Repeat. That's my prediction for the new season. Hey, I've been right so far. Why break a tradition?
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Whats the DL link for the new eposides??
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as a lawyer should never ever work in Hollywood again. All of her scenes are cringe-inducing. Other than that, the first four episodes are amazing.
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http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/words-113 REMOVE THE SPACE
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Was the bomb.
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Just watched digital8 youtube.
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for the year of 2007.
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Um, you're not a bus driver chief.
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Another Black president bitches!!!!! (respectfully, of course)
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Welcome back Milo!
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Shermdog....You're fucking hilarious, man......
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the guy who shouts "knuckle up" in the Matrix isn't the guy in 24. Also, Shermdawg, that was great, man. I remember thinking the exact same thing, but nobody was around when I watched the episode :(
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Buchanan's gettin' busssssaaaayyyy!!!
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Just wait and see.
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And in my unbiased opinion, I thought they were pretty good. I like Jack being unsure of himself, and tired, and I wish they featured it more, and his statement in the fourth episode obviously won't be kept, as there are still 20 episodes left. But yeah, those final moments of the fourth episode were pretty good.
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Bower went and joined the Vato's!!
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in nine minutes jack is clean shaven, changed, and riding in a car towards the drop off. no doubt he killed 6 terrorists while the cameras were not rolling.
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for the first time last night, I wanna see Pedro as the main baddie in a future season of 24.
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Yeah it is.
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bring on the redshirts
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He was in it for a second at CTU but who cares its the Ogmonster and Office co-creator on 24!!!
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Chloe Sullivan = Not
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nice eye, jcrew. Merchant is a big fan of the show and they gave him a small CTU cameo.
It's nice to see Obama hooking up with Miss Palmer.
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feasting on the jugular
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Best. Bauer. Kill. Ever.
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you took the words right out of my mouth
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Yeah, the Lost Boys nod was great, but c'mon, the guy didn't scream or fight back? And wasn't Jack strapped to the chair? After five seasons, can't they choreograph a decent escape by now?
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Utterly orgasmic. Not as good as the "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Bauer" walk the wall kill, but close. "You're a killer, Michael!"
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did we really need a recap before the second episode. Couldn't they have just saved that for the time they reair the season in the summer.
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Wolfman Jack!!
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A simple bite on the side of the neck would not kill the guy. If that was the case, my ex-girlfriend woulda killed me years ago.
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WHERE YOU THINK DUMBASS???
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Nah, he'd never be there.
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So whoever owns the car Jack stole, which looks like some easily hot-wire-able thing from the 80's, also owns a phone advanced enough to automatically locate a location through longitude latitude points. Glad to see the suspension of belief is still strong early this season.
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wow, no sooner do I post that, than there's two consecutive cell phone ads both mentioning their gps capabilities.
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I guess he doesn't want to do the ads after SNL spoofed him.
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Baked with cinnamon and brown sugar please.
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Check YouTube...if you dare.
"Mein Fuerher!! I CAN WALK!!!"
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Lost power...he was kidnapped. tied to chair, next thing I see he's talking to dr. julian bashir...heard the ph one call to president, but HOW DID HE ESCAPE???
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He gave a guy a hickey.
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VAMPIRE TAINT!!! Jack goes from mute to "PUT ME ON WITH THE PRESIDENT NOW!!!"
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I thought they were saving that for the movie.
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He waited until all but one guard left the room he pulled off his sensor, giving a dead (beeeeeeeeep....) reading, and when the dude went toi check em', he went all Lost Boys on em! It was the shit....
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...Will Hunting.
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Well...you're a doctor, get to doctoring.
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Or what Sherm said, which is probably cooler.....
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so this guy's a good terrorist?
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what shall we call him?
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"Hi, I'm Jack Bauer of CTU, and this is a Terrorist's neck sub from "Subway". I don't know if you knew this, but this terrorist's neck sub has twice the meat but half the fat of a McDonald's Big Mac, which means it fills me up without slowin' me down, Dammit!"
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Jack got that kung-fu kane awareness now!
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bark
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so apparently in addition to a shave, he was able to give himself a professional level haircut in no time flat.
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Dr. Bashir has become rather a badass of sorts since being laid off by Starfleet Medical
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funny stuff..
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that was damn funny.
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She was a terrorist..remember. He's just doing his MARQUIS thing!
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He then rides on a cheetah, straps onto a a hangglider, and blows up the nearest White Castle.
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HELLO???
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pulled a gun on a man for not being able to pronounce his n ame. "Shawn! Like sausage!"
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"Thats what they said about my Flux Capasitor!"
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The two Agents with that locked up Palmer's sister are officially the new 'Johnson /Johnson', (No relation)
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Imagine what would Jack Baur be capable of with an iPhone.
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I see a Die Hard 3 coming up...
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He's not a federal agent...
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Cheese and Rice, man...have you learned nothing from 24? We could have not one, but two black presidents if it weren't for you!
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...why did he sit at the very end of the last car?
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Nice mule kick Jack!
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"Yeah...wel at least I'm taller".... (Ok...I'm trying here....
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The number one rule in the 24 universe is "Jack Bauer is always right".
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Lame.
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how will I know whats going to be on tomorrow's episode??? Oh yeah, wait till tomorrow.
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WRONG! He's been wrong countless times. Including tonight when he thought the dude wasn't gonna talk.
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Not since Howie Long's death in "Broken Arrow" have we seen a mule kick kill excecuted to such perfection. And, by the way, Didn't Robin Williams drive a compact Toyota in "One Hour Photo", too? I'm just sayin.
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At least the first two hours.
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This was simply amazing. I'm speechless.
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There ya go.
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My posts are jumping ahead of the ones I'm responding to.
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...would've been a perfect one-liner for Jack to say to the frightened passengers after kicking the exploding terrorist off the train.
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yeah, sorry about that, I got kind of carried away
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Ya gotta learn how to spell it, before ya can second it! ;)
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I screamed this when Jack kicked that raghead out of the subway car!
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Chuck Norris doesn't have to yell. The only loud noise Chuck Norris makes, besides his intentional flatulance(to ward off skanks),is the thunder clap created by his ejaculations.
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...turns out the Dominion has followed Dr. Bashir back to 21st century Earth and it's up to Jack Bauer to bring them down.
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I am really liking the fact that the writing is starting to focus on Jack's humanity and how he is losing it. Sutherland is showing some depth.
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A day I look forward too all year. This did not disappoint. Though the first hour was kinda slow, the 2nd was great. Give up on Zombie Almieda already! Good to see Dr. Bashir again on TV. Say what you want, the last two years of DS9 with the war storyline were better than most of TNBG. Anyway, can't wait for tomorrow and more Bauer Power!!!
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The 7 month wait is over...Jack is Back! "24" is one of the very few serialized shows that has kept me a fan for so many years and boy does it feel good to be back. This premiere has a lot of tough competition from last year's premiere which had so many jaw-dropping moments I couldn't even count. Even season 4's excellent premiere with the Sect. of Defense kidnapping outdid this year's premiere. It was, however, a solid beginning and has me very excited for the next 4 months. Jack seemed to be back to his old self just a little too quickly after years of blood-curdling torture. There were some great moments though...Jack tracking down the suicide bomber had me reliving the grade A suspense of the first season. I am also REALLY happy that the writers have brought back the "outsider" plot of the everyday family and how they deal with the ongoing events, it was sorely missed from last season. There was also some lazy writing going on...why the hell would the government go through all that trouble to rescue Jack just for the slight chance they could find Hassad. Having characters make bad decisions is one thing but the GOVERNMENT? They don't jump through that many hoops just to negotiate with terrorists. It was transparent writing that made it clear the writers just wanted to put Jack into a dire situation that he can escape out of. Other than that and a few minor issues, it was good, solid entertainment and supposedly gets even better during tomorrow night's episodes...CAN'T WAIT!!!
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really.. how awesome was that kill in episode one? the guy doesn't talk for two years, and after being dropped of a plane he's in full ass kicking mode in less that 55 minutes.
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Tom Paris from ST Voyager? Not a big Voyager fan, prefer TOS-DS9 but me thinks it was. Damn, tomorrow night can't get here quick enough.
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THANK YOU. Yes, that was Paris. That was driving me nuts. I couldn't place the guy.
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It was the prick from Good Will Hunting.
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just saw the preview of tomorrow night, and even though I know what the big closing is going to be, I still can't wait to see it happen. It would have been cool though had they gone a different way with this season. Rather than the tried and true terrorist in L.A. method, they could have gone with a story a talkbacker proposed at the end of last season, of having 24 hours of Black Bauer and some other ctu operative breaking Jack out of a Chinese prison. Maybe have it so that Jack was being kept in North Korea, and they break him out of there, all the while the President is in South Korea trying to get a treaty signed, and there's a plot by asian terrorists to assassinate him there. That could have brought all the same characters together, but in a different situation, with different stakes. It would have been nice to see that kind of payoff after last years conclusion.
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24 I will watch live, Heroes gets the ol' Tivo treatment. I love me some Hiro, but the Jack Sack trumps even Ali Larter in a babydoll wifebeater.
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Scott William Winters.
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MacNicol's character is actually a mole for Vigo von Homberg Deutschendorf, the scourge of Carpathia, the Sorrow of Moldavia, Vigo the Cruel, Vigo the Torturer, Vigo the Despised, Vigo the Unholy!
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I fell asleep. What happened?
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is because the show is pretty big in Asia, and as we've seen in the past, certain countries have banned such entertainment properties if they badmouth them in any way, shape, or form. It's al about the money. So expect to see Jack fighting American, Middle Eastern, and Eurotrash terrorists from now on.
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I've been off doing research. He does look a lot like Robert Duncan McNeill though.
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It's a cooler nick than SaluteYourShorts...I'm just sayin'.
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One "Dammit!" and one "Copy that". And the Lost Boys bit? Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.
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I don't get it...what did the Chinese get in return for giving Jack up??...I understand what the US got and what the terrorists thought they were getting but it was never explained what the Chinese got...had to have been something major...or just another plot hole to get Jack back in Los Angeles...are the Chinese going to be back later on this season??...the look Jack gave that Chinese leader after leaving the plane had revenge all over it
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Well, never mind, then.
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Take those cuffs off him!!! YEA DAMMIT!! Fracking Chinese!
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Enough said!
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I cannot imagine there will not be some follow up with the Chinese, if for no other reason than to not have Middle Eastern terrorists in all of the remaining seasons.
Jack getting his will back and going rogue for revenge would make for a cool season if they avoid the pitfalls of James Bond's :ICENSE TO KILL.
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Hey, maybe he makes a cameo in 24, Eye. By the way, while recovering from the aerobic stress of tonight's eps, caught the end of Mr. & Mrs. Smith on HBO-W...it occurred to me...no tats on Angelina. There must be one massive line item for CGI in the budget for all her flicks to erase all those tats because body makeup wouldn't quite hide them all, right? I'm just sayin'...
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I am tired of these motherfuckin' terrorists in my motherfuckin' country!
If Jack is losing his nerve then it's time to call in Samuel Jackson!
I love 24 because unlike most PC shows on tv it gives both sides of the security vs constitutional rights issues!
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I'm freaking SURE of it. I can't wait to find out what we gave them in return for Jack.
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Jan 14, 2007 9:38:01 PM CST
What we gave the Chinese in exchange for Jack...
by iwatchtoodamnmanymovies
For Shame, (Insert Name Here) Gotta Eat, & Sexiest Tomboy Beanpole Ever. They now have the rights to beat those catchphrases they way they beat on Jack's Sack.
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It'sjust like The Rock. He's got some massive tats on both his arms now. You gotta wonder the same thing about him.
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Jan 14, 2007 9:39:24 PM CST
Could you imagine the CGI budget for a flick starring..
by iwatchtoodamnmanymovies
...Johnny Depp, The Rock & Angelina?!? Holy crap!
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The real thing they need to delve into, is what the fuck is up with Desmond? And will, or even could his character return now that he's a fulltimer on LOST.
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I said it in an earlier talkback, you get Denzel Washington in as Creasy from "Man On Fire (forget the movie ending)" after the end of hour 4 to pick Jack up off the lawn, and you've got a level of television yet unseen in human history. "Their forgiveness is between themselves and Allah. It's our job to arrange the meeting, Bauer." UNNGH-PLOP.
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wasn't he also Vigo the Butch?
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wasn't he also Vigo the Butch?
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JACK BAUER POWER HOUR!!!!!!
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double post, dammit!
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They just use body make-up. Sutherland has a lot himself. It's too bad they have to apply that Freddy Kruger hand from now on though.
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I think they just said "price", so that could be anything.
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They probably had to own up to ordering the strike on the embassy.
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It's pronounced "Jeee-hkhkhkaaaahhd."
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get the fuck out of my country and go to one where they can pronounce your name right Akkrdkskkdmed!
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your crap just keeps on coming. Oh yea thanks for backing your statement up with examples. go back to watching the apprentice and leave us alone to enjoy our show
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If you are not wearing a rag on your head then don't worry about it, if you are then go fuck yourself and the camel you rode in on! I love free speech!
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He bit his neck!!!! He Bit is neck out!!!!
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Damn, that's a hardcore way to take somebody out even for Jack. :)
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Every time I look at her I just want to slap her. Ugh. And her loser boyfriend is no help. And who the hell hires the Out Cold snowboarder as middle manager for a CTU in freakin AMERICA?!?!
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Digital8 loves 24, and perhaps will marry it one day. I think that's lovely. I wonder what will happen this season...I've heard a rumor Jack will be teamed up with John Lithgow and the two will have a hilarious back-and-forth dialogue (Jack being hard and tough, John a flamboyant choir teacher who brings out Jack's softer side), but either way I'm sure Digital8 will love it. Digital8 shampoos hair for a living. Digital8 likes 'Frasier' and the phrase "Whoomp There It Is". I don't like Digital8. But I do like his sneakers, as I'm currently wearing them.
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Jack go to the bathroom while changing clothes and why does the name PARADYME(selling the house) ring a bell??????
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The plot is so predictable. Jack can't eat past midnight, or he comes a monster. Jack can't come in contact with water or he replicates. Never ever shine a bright light in Jack's face, as it will kill him.
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Will never, ever be topped. This season is certainly good so far.
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I think it's a very good way to get Jack back. The "lazy writing" method would have been that he was rescued off camera and he's dealing with the results of that experience now, if they bring it up at all. Remember, that precedent was set when David Palmer got the handshake from Mandy back in season 2. That was BARELY mentioned in the first hour and only referenced one other time- when Jack saw Palmer's scarred hand last season. This is where I would really like to know how to use split paragraphs but ANYWAY, what you have to remember is that terrorism is happening on a daily basis in the 24 universe, AND they have a new president. In other words, the situation is ripe for negotiating with terrorists. On top of all that, it sets an ominous tone for the rest of the season, because we are all left wondering WHAT the US had to give up to get Jack. I thought it was really nicely done.
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with the beard and all.
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I wonder why on earth Jack makes me cry. Is it because I put him on a pedestal to worship him? Is it because I see him as a badass with average Joe emotions and qualities? And/or is it that every few steps he takes forward there's one gigantic leap of ass-backwards disaster? Holy shit is Kiefer thee best actor in action filmmaking nowadays. Besides the almighty Jack, you have the show with its twists and turns that turn your body into a twitchy convulsioning sack of H20. Episode Four of S6, by which some of you might have already been spoiled, will be the turning point for Jack Bauer. He will face the most horrific and traumatic events in his life, which might rank above his wife and Tony dying in his arms and him breaking down in the last minutes of Day Three. These events will drive him into becoming a character of true Demigod status that will make sure the terrorists pay with their worthless lives. This show, my fine young fellow Bauer lovers, is what keeps me from relaxing in our so-called quiet world. The adrenaline Jack serves me gives me the jolt I need to realize we are in a world of shit. After tomorrow night, imagine if you will a world where Bauer starts to do some real ass kicking. Welcome to Bauer's nightmare. ___KNEEL___ before Bauer
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It's an honor system. If anyone checks tickets it's LAPD doing spot checks. Wooo! Good 2 hours tonight!
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Anyone want to suggest the over/under?
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First off; didn't notice damnit count :P
1. Isn't it funny that Jack / Bashir pull the "swoop and squat" and Prez Palmer always pitched on behalf of allstate?
2. Isn't it strange that terrorist didnt' recognize Bashir???
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Gets my vote for the best damn scene in the season so far. Kiefer really sells it - when you see him trying too hard to go for the quick and easy answer through torture - and he suddenly seems to feel empathy for the guy after he's been tortured for two years himself. And then the expression when he sees Assad go for it even further. So much is said with just Kiefer's expressions and the one line 'I can't do this anymore.' Wow. just...Wow. Ridiculous, unbelievable plots be damned. It's Sutherland that makes this show what it is. If it wasn't for him, it would have tanked years ago. And what the fuck happened to his hands?! Maybe it's a good thing 24 doesn't do flashbacks. And yes, rule #1 of Formula 24 (I'm gonna use that one!) is definitely, Jack's always right (at least when he's trying to convince CTU and the government of something).
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Looks like Agent Baker will finally make his return, now that there's an openning.
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really is a very handsome terrorist. Of course the hot one is the "fake" terrorist and the bald, not as attractive one is the real baddie. That knife to the knee was pretty brutal.
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"This terrorist's neck is delicious.It tastes like Eva Braun's pussy is dancing on my tongue"
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Alexander Siddig needs more work.
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as loud as I could. Thank you 24 people for giving Kiefer another chance to bite the fuck out of someone. Did anyone else watch on the DVD's the fact that they had a poster of him all vamped from Lost Boys hanging around on the set? (sigh) Thank you thank you.
Of course Bashir's going to kick ass...his uncle is Malcolm McDowell. The knee thing nearly made me pass out. Fark...
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First, the President turns out to be a slayer watcher. Then, Jack goes all Angelus on a terrorist lackey. Is this the Jossification of 24?
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At the end of the 4 episodes, I believe the DAMMIT count is at 5 - 1 from Jack, 4 other from other people. One of the twists at the end of ep. 4 was spoiled in the 24 movie talkback, goshdarnit, but the even more major one wasn't. I think we get a scene of Jack saying he can't do this anymore every episode, its going to get old quickly. Also, its neat to see that Jack Bauer literally drinks the blood of terrorist scum. Oh, and go and type in Calorie Mate on youtube and see what you get.
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Problems: Someone needs to smack that look off of Chloe's face. Would they really just hand over Jack to be killed? If so, then fuck them. A young black bald man as President? And the feds arrested his sister? Not likely. Jack was in remarkable shape for having just spent 2 years in Chinese prison and gettin a knife in the shoulder and a steel spike in his back. Does anyone else work at CTU? Jack is all over the city getting the relevant intel, rescuing Assad, Kicking suicide bombers off the subway. Do they have any other agents or are they all busy shaking down muslims and confiscating hard drives? BTW, that Database wipe sure went down fast.."I don't know where the files are, they just dissapeared". I delete shit off of my computer and it takes 10 minutes..a frakkin' third of the show..not to mention I have backups all over the damn place..pointless exercise..Sorry to dump on your show fellas but after watching Rome, I felt a little let down. Kieffer is a good actor so I will give him that. I think someone already pointed out that without him this show would not be what it is. Having said that...I'll be back tomorrow.
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I know that it's part of the "fun" to find the inconsistencies and plot holes in a show that takes place in real time, but some of the stuff people like "apersonofinterest" come up with is ridiculous. Newsflash: this show is about the CTU based in Los Angeles. Yes, it could take place other places because it follows the adventures of Jack Bauer, but that is where it has always been based and there is no need to see what is going on in other agencies. To do so would spread the plot too thin, because you can only cover so much in real time. Point 2: did it occur to you that the FBI agents (heretoafter referred to as Johnson and Johsnon as an homage to Die Hard) don't exactly have the president's best interests at heart? As we saw last year, there are factions in the executive branch that have their own agenda, and they MIGHT just be sending the president a message with that arrest. As for Jack doing all the work in this episode, remember he is the only one who knows Assad is innocent. The rest of the agency is focusing on tracking the man down. As a result, they didn't know about the subway bomb, because that's intel that Jack obtained through his rogue dealings. The data backups went by quick but hey, give them some latitude here for crying out loud. And the president's sister WAS tipped off that they would be coming back. Who's to say that she didn't consolidate the files and have an emergency plan in place? After all, she gave up pretty easily. I can't believe I am up at 3 am explaining this to you monkeys.
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He's a terrorist in 24 S.6 eps 3 and 4, and has a particularly pronounced and pivotal role in both. Now I know all the yanks won't notice, but I kept expecting him to look at the camera and make a quip (its a kind of Weekend Update / Daily Show fake news style. Kinda.) so it was slightly harder to take him seriously as a bad guy, but he gets a real seething look of hatred out there at the end. Poor CBC, if they lose Hockey Night In Canada, This Hour Has 22 Minutes will be its headlining show. Yeesh.
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At the end of episode 4, Jack takes a lunch break at a Taco Bell and uses only the MILD salsa. Man, he has changed!!!
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.....are attached to many vehicles.
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Jan 15, 2007 3:57:50 AM CST
Hey, TheyCallHimFlane - regarding your "No Ticket" line
by triumph poops!
You said that would have been a good comeback line for Jack to say once he had kicked the guy out and he blew up, as Jack turned to the passengers.Just for the record, that WAS the gag/line that Harrison Ford used in INDIANA JONES 3 when he snuck up behind the German officer on the zeppelin and tossed him out the window, and then Indy turned to everyone else -- at which point Spielberg inserted the visual gag of having all the passengers frantically pulling out their ticket stubs and waving them at Ford.
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Great opening, can't wait for tomorrow's 2 hours as well. As for what happens in the future, I'll only say this: as Jack came off the plane they made it a clear point to show the exchanged look between him and the Chinese official. In fact despite Jack's condition, once he was now standing on American soil and as he passed that guy, it seemed to me that onscreen you literally saw Bauer get a minor energy surge FROM exchanging looks with the guy. So I say NO WAY that by the end of this that there isn't some convenient story hook so paths are crossed once again, simply so Jack can get some ass-whipping payback in. So some way, some how that Chinese official or a whole slew of them are going to become Bauer roadkill. You can bank on it!
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that Chinese dude is way gone. If not this season, next season. Even though Jack "can't do this anymore" Bauer seems a little unsure of himself, he did after all rip the dude's neck apart with his teeth. Lost Boys Part II....Damn, I love this show! I was crying like a little school girl when Jack was giving his spiel while chained to the fence.
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Guard's jugular ripped out = 1 Kill. Guard beaten with firewood = .5 Kill. Suicide Bomber on subway = 1 Kill.
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He only takes credit for outright kills.Neck smooching = brutalBlown bits of bad guy = spectacular
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Baghdad Bauer?
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I agree with you about letting Jack go.. maybe they could have left a guy there but you know Jack would have killed him so there you go. As for the tunnel, I think there were multiple exit points, including any number of storm drains that got Jack down there in the first place. Jack took the main exit because he knew that he wasn't being followed/chased.
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Jack doesn't want them to know that he is back in the country, yet he is running all over LA and fighting terrorist on the subway; no one got any of that on their camera phones? Subway security cameras? With all of the terrorist attacks around the country, you would think the media would be all over a story of someone fighting back. Plus, by now, Jack should be something of a legend in LA; okay, maybe the general public doesn't know his name, but it seems like his face would be recognized by a lot of people.
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Jihad Jack.
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WARNING, Spoileresque speculation follows: I won't go into detail since part of this observation is based on tonight's episodes. I noticed an odd parallel between the look that Jack gave the Chinese guy when being freed at the beginning of S6/Ep1, and the look given by the prisoner/terrorist to the guard in tonight's episodes when they are considering using the buses (trying to be a little vague as to not spoil anyone). Coincidence, or something for the future?
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Jack didn't want Kim and Audrey to know that he was back because he was being given over to terrorists to be (presumably) tortured and killed. He didn't want them to know that he went out that way (though I guess that dying in a Chinese prison isn't a good exit, either).
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That's true, now that he is free I guess he might feel differently about it.
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There are certain things that you cant show on uk televsion. I cant imagined that sky will want to be dragged to ofcom, which is the tv regulator. I can see a much later time slot.
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and literally goes for the jugular.
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Just kidding.
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Less than 7 hours until more 24, and Chloe is looking a little bit sassy for this run eh?
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anyone have the url to the blog that keeps track of all the kills and stuff?
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Jack said he didn't want Audrey or Kim to know he's in L.A when he thought he'd be dead in a few minutes. Obviously, things changed.
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I mean literally seeing. It was filmed so god damned dark I couldn't tell what was going on in a lot of scenes.
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This show is addictive, but it really is stupid sometimes. It's also interesting how it shifted from a right wing to a left wing show over the years. I'm as anti-war / pro constitutional rights as they come, but even I thought it was poured on a little thick these first four eps. ***MINOR SPOILER WARNING FOR HOUR 4*** The US has a strict policy against negotiating with terrorists, so I don't get how or why Palmer gave in to their demands so easily. The didn't know anything about what they were building when he decided to release the prisoners, so why release so many, when the typical attack was killing like maybe 20 at a time? The fact that no one brought up that they shouldn't be negotiating out of principle made no sense either. I agree that the whole revenge against Assad thing seemed a bit out of character. A trained agent should have been able to think it through better. Jack's little breakdown, at the end, should be evident through the day/season. ***END SPOILER WARNING*** It always annoyed me how he was able to get over a heroin addiction in like four hours. Two years in a Chinese prison camp should take a toll that I see in every episode. My guess is that Bashir has a master bad guy plan, since they established his goodness so early on in the season. Given that Jack saved him at such a cost, it'll make the end season tension all the more sweet.
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as soul patches dad.
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is none other than audrey griswold from vegas vacation? she got a lot hotter since then.
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It's in the by-laws of CTU. If only Michelle would come back...(sigh)
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If I watch 24 I'm afraid I might miss Kiefer taking home piece of Johnny Depp's neck.
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Of course Jack can still do it, and nobody does it better! Great eps so far, looking forward to the rest of the season. And yeah, the Chinese official is a dead man walking, he just doesn't know it yet! (but with 24, Jack may not get his revenge until next season, when the Chinese are the big bad)
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Yeah, that was essentially the point. Didn't you know that television shows referencing points of pop culture is all the rage?
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.....some blood. I feel so dirty now . Can't wait to see the reactions from hour 4.
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It's funny how the ex-terrorist consoles Jack by saying he'll get his torturing mojo back soon enough. Keifer is on fire this year as Bauer. You'll see soon enough.
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its jack bauer time kids
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says jack as he carjacks someone... classic.
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Kumar's got a gun!!!!!!!! Somebody get this kid a slider quick!
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Kumar's got a gun!!!!!!!! Somebody get this kid a slider quick!
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Why din't they just cast him again for this one? Like it would matter.
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= FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NIPPLES ON BATMAN = GREEDO SHOOTS FIRST
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they pretty much kill 24.
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theres a showdown brewing there
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these CTU field teams are real well trained, huh?
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That was a Jack Bauer-esque ass whipping!
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havent we been here before?
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DAMNIT--WE HAVE TO DO BETTER THAN WERE DOING AND WE HAVE TO DO IT FASTER!!!
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A few too many "Damnit" from the peanut gallery, no?
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Curtis is turning in to a li' bitch, lately...
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get this man some weed fast!
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The innocent middle eastern next door turns out to be a terrorist. I don't know whether to like this or not.
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...I'm getting far too much of a season 4 vibe. I've just finished watching the first 4 (no spoilers here) and whilst the last 15 minutes are great the rest of the episodes are slightly meandering. I knew the "Jack must be sacrificed" hook would be sorted int he first four but being sorted in the first hour was a hell of a lot faster than I would have guessed. And episodes 2 and 3 seem to drop Jack's broken man thing fairly quickly (glad it's brought back though, and wonderfully so) and I have an inkling it's to become this year's heroin addiction - not so much a hinderance for Jack as much as it is a crutch for the writers when they need to prove they can write character drama. It will be forgotten about when it gets in the way of the main plot. It sounds like I'm moaning - and I hope I'm wrong and Broken Bauer stays with us - and there's a chance that my opinion is hindered by the fact I watched season 5 again in preparation for this so my head's full of Logan, Martha, Aaron, Mike and co. But so far the first four episodes are pretty good more than anything else. A few great moments, mostly padding in order to get a four-episode story to hook the casual viewers before ending with enough of a cliffhanger to keep them there next week. Let's hope the really good stuff is yet to come.
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The stupid cunt doesn't know how to listen.
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not jack though
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i love it
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I was speaking sequentially. He cherishes his son more. Then he cherishes his wife. Ohhh, why all the lies. Yes, I admit it, I used 'then' incorrectly. That still doesn't make me as bad as those who correct other's grammer in TalkBacks. Or even as bad as those who use smilies.
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I'll take a piece of that action..........
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I have money on the chick that speaks arabic even though she's kinda Hot
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...got in it for the White Castle, now he's finding out like everyone else that there's a price to pay for novelty sized hamburgers.
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although that arabic chick is smoking...
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Marisol Nichols... you may remember her as Audrey Griswold from Vegas Vacation
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... it turns out that ALL middle eastern people living the the US are actually terrorists.
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has nuthin on Michelle. Well, uh, besides being alive, that is.
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barak obama throws down on lady palmer
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Middle eastern people and Muslims who are not terrorists should allow themselves to be illigally aprehended and held, so they can spy for us and be true patriots.
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we hardly knew Ye.
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Did you see his face as he went down? His face said "why?!" Even he was shocked that Jack actually pulled the trigger. Nooooo! They fucking killed off Black Bauer!
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No kidding.
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I can't bear the thought of no more black Jack...but...he could be replaced by...JACK BLACK!!!!
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That's the only explanation I can think of for the SNAG Jack.
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He is in heaven being feed 17 White Castle hamburgers from 17 virgins...
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That took tons of balls. But could he have, I don't know, shot Curtis' hand?
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Some things in this room don't react well to bullets....
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of course the F'ed up shit happened when the brothers on the job.
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I hate how it treats its supporting characters. It's all fucking shock value. That's all the writers are going for. I will admit this was better than Tonys death, but still, it's horse shit how things go down on this show.*sigh*Fuck this shit, I'm watching Heroes next week.
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Think about how much it would rock if 24 did a remake of the post-apocalyptic Heston flick.Heck, Zombie Almeda and Zombie Curtis would even have a logical place in the film...
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boom
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damn thats insanity... what a way to close out the season premiere: curtis shot dead, jack weeping on the grass, and a mushroom cloud in the distance. jebus this show is nuts.
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I can barely type...must breath....curtis dead...nuke go boom...jack go nuts....fuck....gret tv no matter what you haters think....right wing left wing...how about great tv...period...
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He could have prevented all of this, by:* Buying Kumar some White Castle* Operating on and saving Curtis' life with his genuis doctor skills* Convincing the terrorists to become peaceniks with his psychic powers* Solving racial tensions with his off-kilter zany anticsand if all that fails,* Turning into a Lifetime movie serial killer and exterminating all that stand in his way...
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He's no longer on the Sub? Maybe he's one of the OTHERS!?!?!
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Right?
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black bauer...hehehe
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jacks not out of CTU now that those fuckers set off a nuke is his town.
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...gets my vote for best comment of the night. Awesome.
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two holy shit 24 moments in the last 15 minutes. They may have been a little telegraphed but still holy shit nonetheless
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...but if there is one thing I can't bare to see, it's Jack Bauer crying. And Black Jack's death was seriously the saddest thing I've ever seen! Shock value death, sure, but unlike Soul Patch, it was shock value done right!
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still can't breath...I can't wait to see how Jack goes nuts....what's got me going is that this is only the first four hours....it better not boring for the next half day (eight hours) and then slowly pick up....cause that was insane....
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He got a good death, unlike Tony. I still can't believe they let Tony die like such a punk after 5 seasons.
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Could you explain why it is that you hate 24 so much? I thought that the way they have treated supporting characters to be diverse and intriguing. Really interested in seeing how you disagree. I love 'Heros' as well, do you believe that the treatment of supporting characters is really more believable?
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Sure we all knew Curtis was a goner, but goddamn I wasn't expecting a suitcase nuke to go off at the end of only the FOURTH hour! Damnit! I LOVE THIS FUCKING SHOW!!!!!!!! WHOO!
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This season so far is stretching believability to the breaking point, but it is still kicking ass. After hour 4, oh man. Jack is going to start breaking people.
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The interesting thing is the way Curtis died is a recycled idea from season 5. Replace Assan with Henderson and Curtis with Tony and that's exactly how his death was originally planned. By the time it came to writing it through they realised they couldn't do it and fit Jack's grief, guilt and remorse for killing Tony into the remaining episodes without diverting from the main plot.
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did they say they only needed Numair for the one suitcase nuke? If not, he's dead, so anymore problems with the suitcases and they're SCREWED!
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All speculation on my part, but in my opinion, Assan is as good as dead. Jack will prolly kill him for forcing him to kill Curtis, presidential pardon be damned.
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Man, another one bites the dust. If they're not careful, they're going to be down to Chloe and a Palmer sibling. And not exactly the right one. Good to see they're going to bring in some family. Meanwhile, are they killing enough Eskimos on this show? HELL NO!!
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I don't even know what to say.
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What did you do, Ray?!?
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I laughed for 2 hours after that line, so I missed everything else. Nothing too big I hope.
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they killed Curtis so they could bring in Ricky Schroeder as his replacement...sorry but little Ricky does not have the right look to be a hard/tough CTU agent...they should have kept Curtis alive...why the brotha always gotta die like that?
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one more thing...Ricky Schroeder looks way too much like Chase (Kim's ex-husband)...if they were gonna replace Curtis they should have at least brought in somebody that doesn't look exactly like James Badge Dale to play Jack's new partner
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Only 24 could make me cry then give me a chubby all in the span of 15 minutes. i don't care what anybody says this (and family guy) is my favorite show of all time
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"exactly" like James Badge Dale? WTF?
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Bigger surprise than Curtis dying!
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how the hell are Jack and anyone else near the detonation site gonna escape the radiation fallout from the nuke??...Karen Hayes even stated that the radiation will extend way beyond the blast point...how are they gonna get by this major plot hole??...no way that anyone can just keep running around LA without feeling the effects
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the wind was blowing away from Jack. That and Jack Bauer will bite the radiation in the neck before it will effect him.
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a suitcase nuke would yield an explosion from .5 to 5 kilotons. Certainly a major explosion, but if they were far enough away they wouldn't be in too much danger immediately.
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Did we really see him die.
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Jack Bauer, with 2 teeth and no hair left from the radiation, stumbles into a warehouse and pukes all over Fayed, contaminating him and saving the world.
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What a dick he acted like.
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Season 2? Ricky Schroeder is this years Sean Astin, I hope he dies as horribly. Manny Coto is the man.
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Add five more Copy Thats and a Son Of A Bitch. R.I.P., BlackJack... :o(
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is th eworst character on the show...i cant stand that ugly bitch...plus, why is that guy from TCM in 24...He has that dirty ass stashe
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I liked how they introduced Curtis' backstory of how he was in the Special Forces during Desert Storm. His squad comes under attack, Curtis gets mortally wounded, most of his squad gets killed and two get POW'd and beheaded. Given this, I believe this pivotal action by Curtis grabbing Assan is natural. You ever hear of PTSD afflicting soldiers and marines? Losing buddies to despicable and barbaric deaths would cause any seasoned professional to lose it if it means getting a chance for payback. Curtis had a terrible experience, of which he might have been cured temporarily, but when he realized he had the chance for revenge he took it no matter what the cost. Personally, if I ever lost a soldier buddy to a senseless murder and I had the chance to meet the killer on the street, I would kill him myself. It's too bad Curtis had to be shot, but we still don't know if he died. No silent clock and no word of his death is good news to me. ___KNEEL___
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Seriously. That's ALL SHE CAN DO throughout all of the first four hours. She looks like one of the GEICO cavemen. Not hot.
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Wow, so it's ALWAYS been a Zombie Curtis!
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Dude, if you don't agree, you're gay.
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Wow, before I didn't really have an opinion about Curtis - we knew nothing about his past until now. But damn, if that wasn't a wrenching scene. His expression and Jack's reaction. Damn! Is this season going to end with Jack crying again? I really hope they don't forget this as easily as his heroin addiction, because this is some of the best dramatic shit's Kiefer's done. HEAVY gravitas, baby! And did anyone else notice that they dubbed Curtis' voice over Wayne Palmer's when he was sending a message to the Attorney General?
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I was a bit bummed he's gone because this was one time the 'typical family' thing worked - I was hoping we'd see him dealing with killing someone. Anyway, time to bust a Bluetooth!
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to get a response to my question. Didn't Jack just shoot Curtis in the shoulder? Maybe he passed out from the pain.
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Fuckin' A!
Not since the last five minutes of season 1, and Connor Gavin's death in in season 3 of "Rescue Me", have I been this absolutely knocked on my ass, speechless at a TV show. "That's one thing I always hated about Santa Clara...all the damn Vampires with suitcase nukes."
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Also, Taj is pissed because nobody saw his movie so he's risen for vengence.
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but the shoulder/collarbone area. I looked at the freeze-frame for the entry point, and it was right there. Curtis would have been convulsing, gagging, and spitting up blood if he had been shot in the throat. Instead, he floated to the ground while giving Jack the look 'WHY?!?!'. One thing I sometimes don't like is how entertainment sometimes focuses on drama way too much. When President Palmer died by getting shot it the neck, it was unrealistic. If you get shot in that spot you go down without having time to stand there and think 'Oh, I've been shot. Let me see if I can give the effect some meaning.' You get shot, you go into immediate shock or paralysis, and you fall down into a sack of meat. Plain and simple. But DAMMIT, I love this drama because the thought of a friend means a whole lot more to me. The pain Jack has been through is unsurpassable, yet we find out it escalates day after day. I just wish we had Jack Bauers out there to kick terrorist ass. ___KNEEL___
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A very good, solid two hours. I'm still caught up over that ending. Jack really killed Curtis? I knew something big was going to happen but I didn't see it coming...not until seconds before when I saw that look in Curtis' eye. Not the character, but the actor "Roger Cross" making the look you make when you know you're never going to appear on National Television AGAIN! And what's up with ANOTHER nuclear weapon. We had one in season 2, it was well used. Then in season 4, it was recycled plot device but saved for the end of the season. Now in season 6...ANOTHER nuclear device? Sure, it's a little bit different...and that scene where the mushroom cloud goes up was really well done, but the basic idea is so unoriginal not just in the world of TV and movies but more importantly in the world of 24! Part of this shows appeal is how it manage to use similar ingredients each year and cook them together to form thrilling, yet unique season every year. I just think yet ANOTHER mass-casualty bomb/virus/nerve-gas threat might be one too many. Season One was the best season to date and that was mostly fueld by Jack's determination to get his family back. What about a serial assassin or a swarm of Eboli carrying mosquitos. There are so many ways to add an original spin on this series, I really hope the writers do that with this series. NEW YORK CITY - 24: SEASON 8!!!!
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I guess we will not know for sure until the next episode.
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Although a suitcase bomb has never been detonated the likelihood of it being 'mushroom' big is not possible. A blast that big could only be caused if it were dropped from a plane. Physics dictates a stationary object that small just cannot cause extensive damage. The only example I can think of is the Chernobyl incident the surface area of which was roughly 3 stories. What we saw on 24 is utterly rediculous. Thank you.
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I laughed pretty hard at that too. I wonder if that guy is still laying in the middle of the street wondering when he can get up...and so...does hollywood think we're too stupid to not be able to tell indian people from arabs?
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What we see MOST of the time on 24 is "utterly rediculous[sic]" and damned if we don't love 'em for it!! Great season thus far, and the best acting by Kiefer yet in the series. Some people who I was watching it with said it was unrealistic in ep. 2 how he just snapped back into Bauer-mode. I like it though. He realizes the threat to America and it's an instant reaction . . . but he cracks(while torturing, talking to Palmer, the very end, obviously).
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"It's not how hard you're hit but how hard you can GET HIT and keep going. Get up Jack. Get up Dammit!" Don't know why that came to mind.
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CURTIS!!!! Almost as bad as Tony. ALMOST. When Tony died I was in denial for about two and a half months. *sob*
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On a sidenote, isn't it in bad taste to kill off Curtis on Martin Luther King day?
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But if one nuke goes off and the other four get stopped it's basically a replay of when the nuclear plants were all going to go up and they stopped all but one of them (remember, it was when Edgar's mommy croaked). Damn, you know working at CTU really sucks. When they bring people in they need to introduce them to Jack and say "there's only two ways out of CTU. Either you're going to be killed because of this man, or if you aren't, eventually he'll kill you himself. Sometimes the waiting gets to him." Sure, you can say it's tough on Jack. But I bet Chapelle or poor old Curtis would swap with him if they could. Anyway, hope the five visitors doesn't turn into a replay of the nuclear plants, but otherwise, so far so good, and a nice, economical way out of the Chinese imprisonment.
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Let's just hope that the producers/writers actually have the balls to make the big bad guy Islamic for once, rather than every season being "oh wait it's actually an evil British guy behind it after all!" Grr.
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AND FUCK KIEFER TOO! FUCK THEM ALL!!!AARON PIERCE YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED, WATCH OUT, THEY GONNA KILL YOU!!! YOU'RE FUCKING NEXT!!! WHETHER YOU DESERVE IT OR NOT! DEAD. GONE. KAPUT.
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and should die from the fallout.
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Okay! :D
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Now granted we have only seen him since he was dealing with Ayed (sp) but he really looked like her was more out of it than Jack- and Jack's been in prison for two years! He just seemed unhinged to me. I didn't like his death and it was heartbreaking to see him linger there for a few seconds, looking at Jack as if to say "why?" But really, I don't think the Curtis we all know would do that. I really, really don't. But again, I keep wrestling with the FULL presidential pardon, so I don't know.
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The music this year is a lot better than in the past. Also, how come the Tac units don't have silencers built in on their guns? Nice that they set off the nuke too! That'll get Jack back into the game. They're hitting hard this year. Thank god there's no Kim being chased by a cougar or wifey-poo hitting her head and losing her memory.
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Maybe they do another Secretary Heller and we get some throwaway comment about how Curtis is recovering. We can only hope. I don't see why not- this show has certainly proven that it has the guts to kill people off, so NOT killing one off would be a refreshing change of pace.
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did you not watch last season when Jack was on the verge of killing President Logan? Not only that, but he contradicted Palmer's orders by rescuing Ayed. So he isn't just a yes man, if that's what you're getting at.
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the show takes into account the commercial breaks, because when we come back from one, the clock has advanced to reflect that. We just don't see what's going on during that time.
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obviously they weren't going to set the nuke off in Valencia, they did that because they were surrounded by agents. Better to have it go off period than not go off at all. Anything else?
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That's when they poop.
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///tongue in cheek/// What the fuck are you talking about? Are you some sort of CTU Nuclear Scientologist or something? Your reasoning behind the effectiveness of the suitcase nuke is wrong. Sure, nuclear weapons are traditionally dropped from planes onto targets. But in tonight's case it is on a couple of boxes. Which leads me to explain this point. A nuke that small is made for one reason and one reason only: to destroy an area of a couple city blocks with the fallout expanding due to variations in wind speed and direction. Anyways, being the nuke was only a couple feet in the air, it still had the capability to create the 'shroom cloud. A nuke is still a NUKE. The estimation that a suitcase nuke has a range of .5-1 mile in the blast area is close to common sense. I'm no nuclear scientist, but a one foot nuke is not as big as the WWII's Fat Man, Little Boy, or today's more efficient Uranium nukes. You said something about the damage to Chernobyl being held to the 3 stories of the structure. You are wrong, since the whole area is still a ghost town due to fallout. The facility was damaged from the blast, and the fallout traveled for miles. When the bomb went off tonight it was big since it is still a modern version of a nuclear weapon with high potential for destruction for its size. The Soviets sure knew how to make 'em back in the Cold War days... ___KNEEL___
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Dont they change the title to 18 when they release it on DVD. Suspetion of Disbelief..."Don't get up!"
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Damn it! To all the haters, I'm sorry I can barely concentrate on what you're saying what with the shinny Emmy that 24 got for best drama and the big ass mushroom cloud that just went off.
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I wasn't expecting Dead Black Bauer. It's gutsy to do a mushroom cloud because that complicates the story a lot. BTW, smackfu: you demonstrate your own ignorance by referring to folks as "Arabs" when clearly you mean people of Middle Eastern descent and Muslims. Whatever. There are plenty of Muslims in India too. In fact, India has the second largest Muslim population in the world.
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Now that Curtis is gone, Pierce needs to step up and take his rightful place at Jack's side. It seems pretty apparent so far that he isn't on Lil Boy Palmer's detail. We need some serious Pierce asskickery.
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forgivaness uh preese
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Fuck them. I'm sick of them killing off every single sidekick and series regular. Anybody who's been on more than 1 season might demand a pay raise, and they just don't want to pony up. I blame David Fury. He must be a stingy exec producer. Ever since he joined for Season 5, they have been killing off favorite characters FOR NO REASON. BTW, season 5 was seriously overrated. Way below the quality and excitement of season 4. It's a fluke that it received the emmy win. It was more of a win for the series as a whole than Season 5. Sort of like ROTK won for LOTR, even though it was the weakest of the three films.
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What a way to remember MLK day. Now its time to call Agent Baker in from Hawaii. Agent Pierce is saving the world from the transformers, so he's kind of busy right now.
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Jack and Tony's tag team action in Season 4 was a highlight of the series.
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Um, did you see season 4? I'm pretty sure the big bad was a Muslim guy. Granted, a Muslim guy with escape artist powers (the old 'running up the stairs' trick). And moasi (and smackfu) - I think they did acknowledge the differences between Arabs and other Muslims. The guy who's the head of the Muslim American Association or something (I'm guessing he's from an African country) - he says he doesn't speak Arab but he recognizes a few words. Now how he knew these words were significant when they were in code, that's another question.
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...they just made him watch Studio 60 and Katie Couric's Evening NewsThe scars are from Jack's attempts to kill himself to escape that torture.
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...you frickin STAY down for DAYS until He comes back His Very Own Self and gives you permission to get back up.That's GRAVITAS, folks, GRAVITAS!I loved that scene....
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truly gravitas at its best . .
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I was thinking the same thing.
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Give that talk a rest.
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Jan 16, 2007 2:11:29 AM CST
Hold up, the people are still mourning that mall-bombin
by rambo in the bronx
from an hour earlier and now, a nuclear bomb went off? This is insane.
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I'm done with this show. Another meaningless death of a major character (Curtis) shows that the writers are running out of ways to shock people. Also, the atomic bomb would have been more of a shock if not for 2 things: A) the nuclear meltdown that killed Edgar's mother and B) "Jericho" already doing this on a much greater scale.
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Puking, crying, fuck he went all prison bitch. Must have been in Chinese OZ.
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Yep, Bush 1 and 2. At least poppy had enough sense to walk and chew gum. Too damn bad he didn't have enough sense to trun his and puke on someone elses lap instead of the Prime Minister of Japan.
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When addressing speaking to the President, doesn't matter what you are to him or how long you've known him you call him Mr. President. Plus, commericals are taken into account with the show... that's why it always ends at the top of the hour. During the commericals is when they sleep/eat/pee+poop/jerk-off.
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Granted he probably road the momentum following his bro's death... but, really, wasn't he responsible for the downfall of David's administration and ultimate resignation?
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C'mon EvilWiz, cut the man some slack. Ya know he'll end up at some point cutting loose and being the 'old' Jack, and it looks like the nuke may have refocused him. They couldn't just have him balls to the wall Jack Bauer from the get-go.However, he still seems to be in remarkable shape considering he had the shit beat out of him for two years. Maybe they let him use the Band Flex home gym?
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Advantage Jack Sack.
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Was that Bizarro Curtis? That wasn't the Curtis we've come to know and love in our 24 universe. At least he had a more noble death than Tony. If you're a regular who's become a guest star, be afraid. The idea of putting Chloe's personality quirks on parade mixed with a love triangle is probably the worst idea this series has yet produced. She was tolerable as a minor character in comic relief, with her current prominence, she's just plain annoying, made worse by the fact they've killed better characters like Tony and Curtis. And Milo must have gone to Putz School in his long absence. In addition, some of the new casting just doesn't work. Carlo Rota will always be goofball Mick from Nikita. DB Woodside doesn't have the gravity to be president. Making Lennix use a phony accent with his great voice is a pity. The good: Bashir, Jack showing vulnerability (not related to a woman) after having endured 5 world-saving days; the continuation of the new snazzier music.
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This is highly unlikely BUT what if Tony was about to inject Henderson with the same stuff that they injected Jack Bauer with at the end of Season 4? Perhaps Tony was revived. Jack wouldn't know about it because he's been in a Chinese prison for 2 years. Maybe everyone at CTU (who knew Tony) knows he's alive and retired. Unfortunately, they just haven't gotten around to telling Jack about it because the whole world is going to HELL!!! Wouldn't that be cool? And what if Tony and Audrey are now a couple? Or maybe Tony and Kim? I still say that if Tony is really dead, it was solely so they can put him in his own FOX action series of some kind.
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So Jack cut his own hair? Pretty decent job I must say. The man can do it all.
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Yeah, and he did that, showered, changed clothes and cut that 2 years worth of beard - IN 10 MINUTES!!! Jaysis, I can't even get my face ready for a shave in 10 minutes...
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all the injuries Jack has suffered, he would have never saved the U.S. each season. He's the energizer fucking bunny....Oh, and they froze Tony so that they can bring him back when the machines take over.
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Why did Curtis just stand there with the gun against Bashirs head? If he knew Jack could drop him even with Bashir in front of him he should have just shot him and put down his gun. Jack would not have shot him if his gun was down.
Also, If Jack is such a supershot , I'm sure he could have wounded Curtis before he got a shot off.
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Maybe this was mentioned already in the talkback (don't have time to read them all) but watching a preview for the new series of 24 on SKY one (UK & Ireland) showed something that really got my juices flowing. As well as showing the usual 'Jack Bauer must be sacrificed' shit that already seems so old, there is a six second shot of Jack interrogating Paul McCrane's chacter Graham (president-controlling, swivel chair-rocking blutooth guy from last season.) It looks like they're in a house, Graham's possibly, he's sitting in an armchair whimmpering "stop it you're hurting me", and standing over him is Jack 'fuckin' Bauer saying "I haven't even begun to hurt you yet". This can only be good. I want to see the blutooth group thing from last season resolved this season. Most avid 24 fans will know already that Paul McCrane is signed up for this season but the fact that I saw this in a preview has to mean that we'll see Jack catching up with Graham somewhere between eps 4 and 8, please don't fuck this up writers, i've a really good feeling bout this season, and you owe us for last years piss-poor effort.
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Hilarious. They used a scene where he cries for an ad for i think it was sky plus.
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He'll need his help if they're to capture the Brit behind all of this.
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and now that we know they kill off Curtis, its seems that writers are running out of road. I am sure the racists on this will love a pop at the chinese but that shit is old. This series is getting old. I Thought the most moving scene was when edgar said goodby to his mother, there is an image of her on the porch, with the sun going down was heartbreaking stuff. Last years lets kill half the cast was a reckless decision, one which will come back to haunt this programme.
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getting messier but I will still be watching. This show is entertaining.
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Jan 16, 2007 10:22:48 AM CST
I think Wayne Palmer being president is interesting.
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Yeah he rode the momentum of David's death, but I get the idea that maybe the party bosses pushed him into running. Unlike his brother, I don't think he has a natural instinct (or even desire) for the job and I think they are making that pretty obvious with his decision making so far. I mean think about it- in the last 4 hours, he has been duped by Fayed TWICE, one of which DIRECTLY led to the nuclear suitcase bomb going off. And why? Because he's negotiating with a terrorist. David Palmer would NEVER do that. I also think it's interesting that David had the passion and conviction of his sister, but the ability to compromise like Wayne. Seeing these two spar is like watching the two halves of Kirk in that old star trek episode.
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What about the Chinese?! This show has to have a twist away from the Muslim terror thing. Besides, you don't torture Jack for 2 years and just walk away.
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regarding the Chinese angle. Normally I defer to his well-reasoned and well-informed opinions, but in this case I must risk to differ. They've already cast the Chinese in a very bad light. Now, there must be a price to pay. Even Robocop can't cross Jack.
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You know it's coming.
Curtis is not dead. They would so have given the silent clock to Black Jack (hell, he got a phone named after him) But will the sack show up soon? And no, I'm not talking about Ricky Schroeder.
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And he knew he was the bad bad guy. Why didn't he stay and kill the bad bad guy at the time, rather than kill him 23 hours later when he finds him again?
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Their conversations are charged with sexual tension, and those wordless moments when their eyes lock or loving stares when the other one isn't looking - I can't wait for the episode where they have to share a hotel room that only has one king-size bed.
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Assad was already helping to find Fayed, why the full pardon without trying to get something else out of it? Releasing all those prisoners over some vague demand is the most unrealistic thing I've ever seen on this show (and that's saying a lot). It was even more ridiculous given that Fayed was counting on this happening.
The Curtis thing was contrived. These guys deal with people they hate every day. Given the stakes and his position, there's no way he'd have done that. Still, they never really did much to develop his character, so no love loss there. Time for a new husk I guess.
I haven't liked this Morris guy since he was introduced. I never liked the Milo guy. And I want them both to stay away from Chloe. Why was Morris working in a shoe store anyway? He couldn't find a computer job somewhere?
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Ever see her when she's not scowling, like at awards shows or in the short lived "The Sketch Show"? See: http://tinyurl.com/w5fwx Cute! :) And she's even from Michigan.
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Fayed didn't need the President to go through with the prisoner release, remember? He had his man on the inside. They only had to get to the point where the prisoners were put on the BUS, not the plane (which never took off anyway, remember?) So all Fayed was counting on was the President would PREPARE to meet his demands, whether he actually gave the final order or not. That's why it works.
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"And why? Because he's negotiating with a terrorist. David Palmer would NEVER do that."
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...when the nation has a policy against it? It might have been one thing had Palmer known about the nuke but, at that point, there was only a low casualty bombing once in a while. Fayed should not have even expected that preparations would be made. And the negotiations made in the past by the previous Palmer were small things to buy time. Shooting Chappelle doesn't compare with giving the terrorists their end game.
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now thats something you don't here everyday! Damn you Raj Binder! :) Canadians will know what i'm talking about...
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I believe they said over 900 people had died.
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on the '24' talkbac, 37 were playing 24: the Game, and the rest were watching '24'. Weird.
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They talk down to the audience too much, there is zero subtelty in the dialogue every point is hammered home incessently. And there is far too much obvious exposition. Like Prez Palmer saying " wasn't it only 3 months ago I swore an oath", or Chloe saying " Your wife, ops I mean secretary of defense". And the message of security vs. civil rights is overdone, and the message is bluntly spelled out to us over and over. Okay so they make Jack a little unsure, but the rest is old bag. I like plenty of it such as Kal Penns plot, but the increased focus on Chloe is horrible, she sucks. Her character is more annoying now that she is always, " Jack was my friend, you hurt my feelings" bullcrap.
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If you think Jack crying is bothering you, grow up. Why don't you guys go train to become a Special Forces soldier and U.S. Special Agent (NSA+FBI+CIA). Both Curtis and Jack went this route. With the work experiences that come with these professions, the pressure can be so overwhelming sometimes that when after task completion people break down in moments of serenity. I guess average joes like yourselves don't have any idea on how real world shit can have an effect on someone. Jack has been through so much shit in the past 20 years of his life that would make a billy goat puke. Because of his *job* his daughter doesn't want to be around him any more, his wife died in his arms, friends die, bombs blow up, traitorous ex-lover Nina wanted to kill him, and he knowingly killed his friend(s) in some manner. This is a tv show, and 24 is structured to affect our emotions. I guess you guys don't know Jack. ___KNEEL___
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All his wounds have healed into scars. They tortured him for a long time and then just tossed him in prison for the remaining time. He had to have had a few months off at least from the torture prior to the season opener.
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Oh please. Jack from day one has been a macho caricature of a government agent. Why change it now and make him all touchy feely, sniff, sniff.
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"They tortured him for a long time and then just tossed him in prison for the remaining time"
Why did he need time off? Not all torture is physical. Fucking asians are masters of torture. Like rats in a cage eating your face. Or water dripping on your head.
But one of the previews showed a false escape. How many fake buds you think were dropped in Jacks cell? How many ass fuckings they give him to shake his "manhood"?
One of the great lines from Rolling Thunder is
Major Charles Rane: You learn to love the rope, that's how you beat them. That's how you beat people who torture you, you learn to love them and that way they don't know you're beating them.
Here is another
Mark Rane: Why's he staying out in the shed?
Janet: Because its cold, small and dark.
Or even the most recent Doonesbury and the vet reactions.
So why would Jack NOT react this way now? The best he can do is tears and vomit?
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The music at the end wasn't "Arabic".. I believe it was from the Crash soundtrack.
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After further research, I found that the track from the Crash soundtrack used at the end was called Negligence.
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Kiefer said on an excellent Charlie Rose interview last week that the Chinese have a tv show that is a direct rip-off of 24, so they ( the producers, which KS is an ex-prod ) don't care how the Chinese are represented...and I love how if you're a recognizable character actor or actress, and show up in the first couple of episodes....hey, isn't that Darlene from "Rosanne", that hot chick from "Talk Soup", Kumar from "White Castle", that kid from "Witness" all grown up, suburban nuclear dad, Ralph Sbarge or sumtin'...they get offed or never seen again...
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Neither did Berooz, from Season 4 and HOSAF, Now My question is who is Wayne Married to who is the First Lady And we all no Ex-president Dick head will be making a appearance.
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during the campaign. Remember? He was having an affair with the wife/girlfriend of that big financial donor, who wanted Wayne fired. Sherry intervened and killed the guy by witholding his medicine. One way or another Wayne killed Sherry but I don't remember how exactly. Anyway, his hands were all over that. I never really thought of Wayne as a president, and maybe that's the point- he is really doing a bad job so far.
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Curtis gets one second of backstory and then gets whacked?! I hope this show isn't so desparate for "oh shit" moments that they forget how to do them correctly. And office hottie Chloe? Nobody's buying that shit.
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And I'm still sticking up for Chloe. :)
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Ponyboy did not die.
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Remember, these are all tech nerds that are after her. I remember when I was in high school, the ROTC guys would go bananas over a girl in ROTC, because they were all part of the same clique. Put that girl in the general school population, and she was considered ugly as hell. Same thing went for band geeks- there was always that one girl that everyone swooned over. If higher ups start dating Chloe- guys from military/political backgrounds, then yeah, it will start being ridiculous. ESPECIALLY with hot women like Nadia walking around. I even think Chloe's reaction to this attention is pretty realistic. Think about it- would a nerdy girl have the grace and poise to handle two guys fighting over her? Of course not, so Chloe just blurts everything out. Sometimes her dialogue seems a little bit forced because she is always stating the obvious or moving the plot, but I honestly think that's how a girl like that would talk.
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if you didn't enjoy those four hours, you really are too cynical. Sure there are things wrong here and there, but good lord, this thing is on FOX? Watch American Idol tonight instead if this isn't your cup of tea. But then come back and complain that the terrible singers they mock tonight would never have made it through the interviewing process, okay?
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This episode was as good as the show always is, but I think they made a big mistake getting rid of Soul Patch and not bringing back Kate Warner. Black Jack was boring and Chloe is not hot at all, she is strange looking. They need to play up how much of a geek she is and not try to make her look hot. A show that has Kim Bauer, Kate Warner and now the Griswold chick should stick to featuring the hotties. At least Skeletor Audrey is not back....yet.
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... I normally don't get into the irreverent posts, but your last one was the most hilarious comment I've seen--- on this board--- in months! "General population." On a different note... the one thing I'll say is that, with Curtis gone, the guy who plays Buchanan had better watch his back. Since I wouldn't expect for Chloe to get killed-off any time soon, he's pretty much the only other long-standing character whose death could potentially provide enough emotional payoff to top that of Curtis.
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I really didn't like Chloe when she was first introduced in season 3. Then she started to grow on me in season 4 and became tolerable in season 5. While I don't hate her, she has the sarcastically monotonous way of speaking that is distracting and annoying, I can't figure out why they'd kill of so many great characters but leave her on the show? My guess is that she isn't very expensive to keep on the show since the actress knows "24" will be her only claim to fame.
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too get the West prepared for what is to come. it's a tool to get our minds around the kind of thinking and scearios we ARE going to face.It's also BTW kinda disapointing that they toned down the Religious retoric in the Terrorist dialog. if we didn't know better you'de never even thinkj they were Religious extremists. are they? these are Muslim Radicals and ALLAH almost never gets used in their language on this show. the terrorists in the premier are Cartoon and they remind me of the terrorists from Chuck Norris and bad 80's movies. it's almost like the producers toned it down from Religious Fanatics to Middle Eastern people with a Vendetta to avoid backlash from muslims . i found this aspect disapointing . overall it was a good premier and should get people thinking about WHAT these madmen are prepared to do.
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Chinese Talkback Catchphrase Torture
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J:"Watch out Curtis, it's slippery through here." C:"Okay I'm with you Jack...whoa, shit!" J:"CURTIS!" C:"It's ok Jack, I'm alright." J:"STAY DOWN!" C:"I'm alright.." J:"Dammit Curtis, I said STAY DOWN!" C:"What the fuck Jack?" J:"Don't make me do this Curtis!" C:"SHIT!What's with the gun? I fuckin' slipped!" *pop* J:"CUUURTIISSS!...I can't do this anymore!" C:"I, I...fuckin...slipped you.....crazy.....mutha........fu"
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Shit is going down!And Chloe is not hot. Time to take a nap.
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But who cares? There are some people out there that think Angelina Jolie is HOT and some that think she's NOT. In fact, some think Angie is weird looking. Not me, but these people do exist. So, let's all just agree to disagree and move on. Oh, and by the way...CHLOE IS HOT!!!
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that way I'll have my fix, though it would end in half the time. Perhaps they should make it '48'...Update: Chloe still not hot.
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AS A FORCE GHOST!!!
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Anyone have any final words?
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as being very hot. She should go undercover and have to 'infiltrate' naked Mandy, who shows up and is connected to today's events.
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fuck eye patch, bring back the hot chick!
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wa-hoo.
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hey may be coming back.... Behrooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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LAST POST!!!AS IN LAST POST FROM ME!!!I'M OUT!!!I'M DONE!!!AND NO, YOU CAN'T PLL ME BACK IN!!!DON'T EVEN TRY!!!EVEN IF THEY BRING DESMOND BACK, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT!!!NAKED MANDY CAVORTING???DON'T CARE!!!THEY'VE INSULTED THIS FAN FOR THE LAST TIME!!!FUCK THIS SHOW!!!TAKE YOUR UNDESERVED EMMY AND TAKE TURNS SHOVING IT UP EACH AN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR ASSES!!!I'M OUT!!!!!!*bloop... bleep... bloop... bleep...*
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All I gotta say is if they keep the momentum up like this, it's going to be one hell of a season. Too bad about Curtis.
Gotta love the weasely guy from Ghostbusters 2 as the new White House weasel!
HE IS VIGO! YOU ARE LIKE THE BUZZING OF FLIES TO HIM!
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I just wanted to add, unless Ricky Schroder is accompanied by a mini choo choo with Erin Gray in a bikini, Alfonso Ribiera singing Michael Jackson songs, and a constipated Dennis Franz riding on the caboose, he will never, and I mean NEVER replace Tony or Curtis.Nope, they'll Kill his ass off right when he becomes popular. We can't have anyone challenging the almighty Jack Bauer. And we certainly can't open up the possibility of a bankable 24 spinoff. No, fuck that. We'll just kill EVERYBODY!!! KILL 'EM ALL!!!Fucking bastards.
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Yeah, they're bastards for killing them all off. Hell, I still miss George Mason, the wise-cracking SOB from season 2. Tony, Michelle, and David Palmer probably left the biggest wounds in the show though.
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