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Moriarty’s DVD Blog! Is The Format War Over?!

There’s one big story developing out of the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas this week, and it’s the word many of us have been waiting for in the brewing format war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Porn appears to have chosen sides. And as far as I can tell, that means the war is over. There are two stories I’ve had sent to me today. One is here. The other is here. And both stories seem to indicate that HD-DVD is the format that the porn industry is going to embrace. Even the creation of the hybrid players isn’t as significant as this development, because any time there’s been a format war before now, it was the format used by the porn industry that emerged as the victor. It’s particularly bizarre if the second story is true and Blu-Ray actively chose not to be involved with the porn industry. That’s commercial suicide, and it’s going to come back to haunt whoever made that decision. Of course, all of this avoids the elephant in the room, which is that HD porn is a scary prospect on many levels. I’m not sure I’d want to see someone like Ron Jeremy in high definition. There are, after all, things you can’t unsee.

Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • Jan. 11, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST

    All hail Porn, the savior of civilization as we know it

    by SpyGuy

    What, did you think I was going to say "First!" or some stupid shit like that?

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 9:55 p.m. CST


    by Zakari Paolon

    Now I can shop!

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 9:53 p.m. CST

    WOW! STD's in 1080P

    by Mace Tofu

    : P

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 9:57 p.m. CST

    People buy porn on DVD ?

    by CTU Mole

    We have the internet. That was Al Gore's whole point when he invented the internet.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:04 p.m. CST

    HD-DVD Porn.....

    by Thorstrongstone

    Damn it, now we are going to have to re-stock our fucking movies........again. Now the Amazing TY can shove 17-inch plastic cocks into her gaping brown eye in an amazing new format. Sony is against porn because they are a company of Mormons and eunichs. I, for one, love it!

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:05 p.m. CST

    this is a great site...

    by Colonel Kane check out the famous peeps link

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Maybe not...

    by Sinisterjim

    I've gotta disagree a litte Mori...on the surface, this makes sense, but considering the multi-media world we live in today, things may go differently...Bill Hunt at the great made a very knowing statement regarding this..."I've also been getting a few e-mails this week about how a few of the leading porn companies, like Digital Underground and Wicked Pictures, have decided to back HD-DVD for cost and ease of production reasons (see story here at ABC News)."Porn decided the VHS vs. Betamax format war, so it'll decide the HD format war too!" is the typical comment. Here's why that won't matter: Back in the days of the VHS vs. Beta format war, the only way to watch porn was to visit a seedy adult movie theater. So when cheap, convenient porn on tape finally arrived, it was a HUGE deal, demand was massive and it benefited VHS greatly. The difference today is, porn is EVERYWHERE on the Internet and particularly on good old standard DVD... and it's already cheap. Plus, hot naked babes that look sexy as all get out in standard definition... well, let's just say maybe not so much in HD. You can't hide those plastic surgery scars and ass-pimples in high-def. I'm just saying. Bottom line: Porn will NOT decide this format war."

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Sony didn't want parents walking in

    by Mace Tofu

    on their children watchin' Blueray Porn on the PS3's. Just a guess on why they didn't take the porn $$$ with most parents dropping a grand on the player and a few games. For $299 Apple will let you see millions of pages of free internet porn on your TV at home with it's new iTV gizmo CTU. Porn is about $8 billion in sales so the Blueray pie would of been big.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Does people buy porn anymore???

    by Dave257

    Face it guys, when it comes to porn downloads are up, dvds are down. Way down. All the porn industry is more worried about bittorrent than what the next high def format is going to be.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Is Harry related to Beyonce?

    by darthbinks1220

    I dunno, oh and Damn you Jar Jar.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:19 p.m. CST

    How to direct porn in HD ... Back up , Back up, Back up

    by Mace Tofu

    Back up, OK that looks better. Will HD porn be the end of the extreme close-up or the start of a new fetish? Horror Porn.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I can't wait

    by redshirt

    Acne scars, ass pimples, crooked teeth, and stretch marks all in high def. This may be the death of lots of porn stars who look great on standard, but horrid in HD. Won't just be porn either. Lots of hollywood stars and starlets have a lot to hide on their faces, this will be magnifying glass.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    RE: HD DVD and teh pron

    by Pound Sand

    I think the reason is because Disney cast their lot with Blu-Ray, with stipulations that this would be a "No Pron" format. It doesn't matter though, because in this format war, both Blu Ray and HD DVD will be losers. Be an early adopter at your own peril.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:24 p.m. CST

    "any time there’s been a format war before now ...

    by Toe Jam

    it was the format used by the porn industry that emerged as the victor." um, as far as i can recall, there was only one format war that porn was involved in: vhs vs. beta. and as has been already pointed out, internet porn has totally surpassed store-bought porn in terms of revenue, so i don't think the industry backing hd dvd will make one iota of difference. if anything decides the format war, i think, it will be the fact that more non-early adopters (i.e., the mouth breathers out there) will just automatically go with hd dvd because of the recognizable and safe name ... as opposed to blu-ray, which is a pretty horrible name for a format and will never be embraced by the general public.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:29 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    I just dropped $3000 on a new big flat screen LCD HDTV, and the prospect of having to replace my DVD's wih blu-ray, or buy a player just for new ones, god that would suck. thanks Mori for this. good info.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Re: People buy porn on DVD ?

    by Fievel

    Exactly. Who actually spends money on this stuff anymore? I wouldn't call it commercial suicide to exclude porn from the next-gen DVD format as the Internet is the way. Rememeber that scene in Boogie Nights when Burt Reynolds' character is told that film is dead and that videotape is the way of the future? Well that moment is happening now, and the internet is the future.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST


    by Deus Vult

    when I read this story--taint in high def? dear God no. in other news, I was FORCED to buy my wife the new Justin Timberlake cd today with the last $13 on my target gift card from Christmas. sometimes being married isn't as wonderful as I was lead to believe it would be...

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:32 p.m. CST

    This doesn't mean shit.

    by Angry Mean Panda

    However, the fact that the porn industry is collectively shitting itself over the switch to HD is hilarious. I haven't seen in any HD yet, but apparentally most of the top starlets look fucking ghastly- scars, stretch marks, botched plastic surgery clearly visible. Disgusting.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:35 p.m. CST

    "I'm 'baiting!" IDIOCRACY was Good.

    by Mace Tofu

    PORN on a BIG ASS TV! I watched the new IDIOCRACY DVD 3 times yesterday and found it funny all 3 times. I had lowered my expectations after reading post here and on IMDB about it when it played in a few theaters but I was happy it was well done and funny. This and Sleeper would make a good double bill.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Blu-ray loses?

    by darthbinks1220

    Guess that makes the PS3 an afterthought?

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST


    by DOGSOUP

    And by "Books" I mean every feamle vagina in a 30 mile radius of his ass.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Porn is only one of the 500lb. gorillas in the room...

    by Dark Knight Lite

    The other is STAR WARS. If Lucas decides to let Fox release the films on blu-ray, the format war will rage well beyond 2007. If he decides to wait till a clear winner emerges, we'll probably see hd-dvd come out on top by 3rd quarter. The price on hd-dvd players keeps dropping, and we'll see the early adopters bypassed by regular joes looking for 1080p at the lowest price.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:53 p.m. CST

    So no porn on the PS3 or the XBox 360 HDDVD...

    by themikejonas

    But come on, we need porn for the Wii!

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:58 p.m. CST

    cheaper-is-better won't work on consumers

    by ScreamingPenis

    if Blu-ray is superior to HD-DVD in the way that has been reported, then a few bucks on the consumer end is not gonna make a difference. there's a much greater push among consumers to have the best and brightest media gadgets -- gaming consoles, video phones, iPods, TVs. it's not like these new technologies even stay expensive for too long anymore. look at something like HDTV where price deflation (maybe thanks to more open markets and trade?) occurred at an incredible rate over the last few years. the same will be true with next gen DVDs. better quality and advanced technology will win. Blu Ray has a clear storage capacity advantage. is it like 50 GB for a dual layered disc? consumers will drive the format winner, and nothing from the last couple of years suggests they'll pick an inferior format.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 10:59 p.m. CST

    I'm holding out for the $199 price point for HD decks

    by Mace Tofu

    Maybe by this Christmas? 1080P? Most of the sets I see for sell only do 720P lol. Kinda like a Half/HD better than 480 but not as good as 1080.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Anyone that buys porn on HD DVD...

    by Zarles obviously watching it by themselves.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 11:09 p.m. CST

    I don't think porn will make a difference...

    by Nexus-6

    The PS3 or Blu-ray's storage capacity won't make a difference, either. In the end, if there is a "winner", it's probably going to be HD-DVD, for one reason, and one reason only. The name has "DVD" in it. Your average joe consumer knows DVD, what the fuck is a Blu-ray? That's all it boils down to, name recognition. Not that much of this matters to me though, because I think HD discs for films are going to be a niche market anyway. Kind of like lasers were, but more people are going to be on this bandwagon. The studios don't realize that a good portion of the population is still perfectly happy watching shit quality bootlegs, tiny downloads and standard def. TV. The main reason a lot of these people switched to DVDs in the first place was because they took up less space and you didn't have to rewind them.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 11:13 p.m. CST

    "That's all it boils down to, name recognition."

    by Zarles

    Precisely, Nexus. Blu-Ray is too gimmicky to succeed, even if it is the better quality format. Remember Super VHS? Me neither. ;)

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 11:19 p.m. CST


    by al aero

    Haha Sony just got Pwned buy the Porn industry !! Try the chicken i will be here all week

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Moral of the story

    by Lando Griffin

    porn builds bridges and solves problems people. Like our President porn is a uniter, nt a divider

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    And we all will enjoy watching her do so.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 11:57 p.m. CST

    I work in the home theater

    by Snow Is Fun

    I work in the home theater department at Best Buy, and I can say for certain that the name Blu-Ray has done nothing to scare people off. People ask just as many questions about Blu-Ray as they do HD-DVD. In fact, more people are familiar with the term Blu-Ray than HD-DVD. What scares people off is the price and the fact that they don't understand that both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are completely different formats. Heck, most people don't even realize that DVDs aren't high-def. And since capacity is the only real difference between the two high-def formats, the deciding factors will be 1)Which format gets the better movies? and 2)Which format comes down in price faster. In both of those catagories, HD-DVD has the advantage. But I'm not going to try to predict a winner here. That's damn near impossible. These are just my own observations.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Dont forget the Wii too...

    by radjac33

    remember some porn sites now have "Wii Friendly" pages. So the porn industry has chosen the winners once again, both in dvd format and new gen gaming.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 12:38 a.m. CST

    This is why Beta died

    by Stringer Bell

    Sony didn't want porn on Beta back then too. How'd that work out for them?

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 12:49 a.m. CST

    hd penis wrinkle?

    by Bob C. Cock

    lates hd porn.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Oh yes!!

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Man, I cant wait to see a close up of some whores prolapsed anus filled with man milk. The worst thing is, I'm being serious!<br><br> The format war depresses me I think HD is going to be somewhat of a failure as a result and lower uptake means less movies and higher prices.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 1 a.m. CST

    whats wrong with female ejaculation BSB

    by streakerfreak1983

    I love it when I get my fiance to do that. Fun for the whole family. Sorry, I just watched Pink Flamingos for the first time so my is in the gutter right now. Anyways, there really is no need for HD porn. I think we are all happy with what we have now. As some others have said this is not the same thing as the VHS/Beta wars.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 1:20 a.m. CST

    I'm blu-ray all the way

    by skiff

    Anyone who goes with hd dvd is uninformed I have seen porn in hd and it is not pretty. Who buys porn on disc anyway just read bill hunts take on it over at the

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Blu-ray is a better product

    by skiff

    Info loads off the disc at a faster rate in blu-ray so menus load quicker the whole thing works better it is based on blue lazer technology hd dvd is based on old red lazer technology and that has been tweeked to death. Red lazer is a bottleneck that is why its cheap this is more like the battle between lazer disc and dvd than the vhs vs beta war.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Bring on the stretchmarks and pimples!

    by Eyegore

    All of you homos saying this will be scary should go play with your barbie dolls. Seriously, if you ever want to see a real woman's body UP CLOSE, you should work on getting over your revulsion now, or just put on a dress and find a boyfriend so you don't have to look at his blemishes while he pounds your ass from behind during 'sex'.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 3:10 a.m. CST

    On Digital Bits

    by conbarba

    they have good theory why porn won´t decide the winner of this war. And I agree with them.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 3:10 a.m. CST


    by conbarba

    already somebody said so...

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 3:42 a.m. CST

    HD DVD and Blue Ray are for tech geeks only

    by Floyd_Dylan

    In all honesty I can't see the average general public going out and splashing loads of money AGAIN, on something that they can already see and hear perfectly and takes up less shelf space. The general public doesn't really care if a picture has even more colour detail than before. They're more likely to be impressed if they're watching a nature programe in HD, but when it comes to movies or television, THEY DON'T CARE!!! And won't spend X amount of money on the same product twice, when there is nothing wrong with their DVD collection in the first place. Sorry but Blu Ray and HD DVD will only be a big hit for tech geeks only.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Give it a few years

    by Atomic.Lobster

    and we'll have the bandwidth and storage capacity for a 1080p download service. Buy the movie, not the shiny little coaster that happens to have the movie on it. That is all.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 5:23 a.m. CST

    BIGGER blow to Blu Ray was the PS3 being BUNGLED!

    by Triumph poops!

    Sales reports are in and the big, big, BIG winner from the Thanksgiving/Christmas sales season was believe it or not, "the little console that could", the one "those in the know" declared a longshot at best all along... yes, the Nintendo WII. In Japan its outselling the PS3 by MORE than a 2-1 margin and the buzz on it is high, while even the Japanese are making fun of the PS3 follies. Meanwhile the XBox 360 racked up incredibly solid sales as well, and that IS aligned with HD-DVD, thus helping to push that format along even further.<p>Bottom line: Sony still can't ship PS3's in quantity or on time and aside from the most rabid, foam in the mouth gamer, just about everyone is still choking over the PS3's price. Meanwhile everyone thinks the WII is fun to play and the average Mom & Dad finds it easily affordable to bring home to the kids. And the XBox 360 is not only out there in quantity, but now from the CES show Bill Gates has announced the XBox 360 version 2 is preparing to set sail (ie. the current premium edition will drop in price and become the new basic entry level console and Microsoft will offer a "new" premium box with HD-DVD and a far larger hard drive and other things. The truth is in addition to consumers being turned off by a new format war (not wanting to have another VHS vs Beta debacle) Sony dropped the ball on the PS3 by betting so heavily on BluRay being a part of it. And once they fumbled the ball in price pointing the PS3 waaaaaaaaaay too high AND couldn't get them out there, Bill Gates just put on the theme to JAWS and decided to feast on the wide open market before him.<p> So all in all, the botched job that was committed with the launch of the PS3 truly put a major knife in Blu Ray's heart TOO since the cosole really was Sony's modern Trojan Horse to try and place the format into the average consumer's home...

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Porn was my mentor

    by quentintarantado

    If it weren't for my endless quest for naked women, I wouldn't know anything about the internet and the technology behind it (how to search for porn other people surfed through in the computer's cache, for instance). That led to greater expertise in computers which led to my present job--as a teacher for middle school kids. So I owe porn my success as an educator. Sony's move, I believe, will seriously hurt itself. There are still a few months to go before we know the clear winner of the format wars but I agree, the fog is thinning and the signs up ahead are getting clearer. It's a pity, I kind of favored blu-ray.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Tit Queens of the Past: Volume II

    by just pillow talk

    They would all like to thank you Mori.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Disney chose Blu-Ray and Porn chose HD-DVD

    by brycemonkey

    Fuck you Disney! Go peddle your lame pirate movies elsewhere. I'm busy watching this girl go air-tight!

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Floyd_Dylan speaks the truth!

    by SpyGuy

    The upgrade from VHS to DVD made sense to the general populace because VHS tapes had been around for 20 years and were sometimes eaten by VCRs and DVDs provided digital quality picture and the ability to easily access scenes and special features. The upgrade from DVD to HD-DVD (Sorry abou your luck, Blu-Ray) isn't as easy of a sell because most people just upgraded over the last five years or so and you have to buy a hi-def TV to fully appreciate the improved quality. HD-DVD will only take off after the price for players and hi-def TVs comes down to more affordable levels. Until then, as Floyd_Dylan remarked, HD-DVD is just for tech geeks, not the masses.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 7:25 a.m. CST

    It's not about pimples and stretchmarks, Eyegore

    by rev_skarekroe

    It's about dilated anuses and gallons of semen. Have you seen the state of pornography lately? It's pretty disgusting on regular tv - HD'll be a nightmare.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Too Soon!

    by boba_rob

    Cant wait to see Jenna Jameson take a huge load on her face in Hi-Def.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 7:42 a.m. CST

    The Word on the Street

    by ye olde shiza

    Yep ... HDDVD is taking its sweet time to come out. For example, I'm working at the busiest and largest Blockbuster in Portland. We haven't received one copy of an HD-DVD, yet. <br><br> The Protector was supposed to be our first one, but I've haven't seen it come in, and no one's passed on any word from corporate as to how we'd rearrange the shelves (side-by-side, new sections, etc.). Blockbuster Online stocks them, but again ... that's a more specialized, demanding audience. <br><br> I've had one guy call me up and ask about HD-DVDs in the past month, and the PS3 games are sitting on the shelf. Even I, who actually would love to partake in all this HD-DVD goodness am not advacing because I don't have a new TV and can't really afford to buy one. <br><br> The porn industry choosing sides is important in seeing which format wins, I would guess, since that's a huge chunk of change. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for the HD to catch up with DVD. <br><br> Anyone remember those headlines that hit about how more people, for the first time in history, rented a higher percentage of DVDs than VHS. That signaled the end. The bell tolling. And it was only four years ago, or so ... <br><br> Trust me, I don't think half of the people at my Blockbuster are qualified to operate their DVD players, much less jump into a new standard.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 7:47 a.m. CST


    by Delete Me

    Best first post ever.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 8:14 a.m. CST

    It's the price, stupid.

    by Zarles

    Why are PS3s and its games sitting on the shelves? Price. Nothing else. It's not about brand identification or better quality or any of the other concepts that your average Joe Schmo consumer doesn't give a fat shit about - it's about how much it costs. However, Sony and the PS are a tested brand - if it weren't so expensive, I think Blu-Ray would be giving HD-DVD a serious run for its money. I'd love to have a PS3 and a Blu-Ray player, but good lord - $700? Yeah, the roof over my head is nice, too. When the price comes down and the market has chosen which format is the rightful successor to ordinary DVD, then we'll talk.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 8:59 a.m. CST


    by Mr Incredible

    Sorry for all you BLU-RAY fans out there who had to have a PS3 immediately. Now everybody else has a choice.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by just pillow talk

    make sure you post that online petition in all the old talkbacks too and the zone. In fact, post it every day, every hour. Fight the power!

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 9:29 a.m. CST

    I knew this was going to come back to porn!

    by porterdsgn

    The best things always do!

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 10:21 a.m. CST

    im glad

    by macgruder

    that I haven't invested any money in either format yet. I'll wait a yerar and buy PS3 when it goes down cheaper and not in high demand. I really dont give a rats ass about these formats anyway. I already have over 1000 dvds and im not going to spend money to replace any of them.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Blue Ray is FAR from dead, believe me

    by Acappellaman

    One HUGE, HUGE, HUGE thing to keep in mind in this discussion, aside from the fact that I've never once heard about anybody I know buying porn on DVD, is that the internet was not around during the last format war. Back during VHS vs. Betamax, the internet did not exist. Now it's more than enough for people to get their jollies to watch porn. I'd bet everything I own that the porn industry makes a GREAT deal more money from internet porn sales than from DVD. By no means do I consider this a win for HD-DVD. All it does is dirty it up a little. I'm still a big supporter for Blue Ray - it's a much better and more versatile format. I don't care a single bit whether or not HD-DVD dies and goes away. Some day there will only be hybrid players available anyway, so I think in the long run it's all a moo point (Friends fans will get that one). Mark my words... Blue Ray will NOT die until the NEXT next gen format comes along sometime around 2015.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST

    PS3 is not in high demand

    by radjac33

    you can find it anywhere now gathering dust.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    They will need to remaster classic porn, though

    by Doctor_Sin

    That is the only selling point for me. Current porn is boring. I need Hypatia Lee, Ginger Lynn, Desiree Cousteau, and a bunch of other women who are either dead or living in seclusion now. What good is HD-DVD if Janey Robbins' "Private Teacher" is all hazy with film grain? DVD is cheaper, so TONS of classics are available. If they switch to HD-DVD, I can't see the porn industry digitally remastering old 35mm fare like "The Filthy Rich." So, basically I don't care. I like my DVDs, can't afford a Hi-Def player or TV, so it means nothing.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Blu-Ray is getting clobbered by HD-DVD

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Nobody trusts the shit that Sony pulled with their rootkit on CDs. The DRM issues that they want to put in this format is repulsive. Also, the encoding of present day Blu Ray movies are not as good as HD-DVD. That said it was Bill Gates himself that said that this will be that last format war, because after this we will be getting ALL of our movies online.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Nobody's mentioned the future of Scat and Piss porn

    by Doctor_Sin

    Because I ain't watching it. Fuck even thinking of it being HD.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    5 inch butt pimples ahoy!

    by Larry of Arabia

    1) The LAST think I want to see is hi-def vagina on a 56" screen. 2) We will soon realize that porn stars have blemishes and use a lot of body makeup. 5 inch ass pimple ahoy!

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 6:42 p.m. CST

    The FACTS From NPD HDDVD 92k BLURAY 687k

    by topaz4206

    NPD has the cold facts. 92,000 HD-DVD Xbox 360 Add-on drives sold as of Jan 1 2007, and 687,000 Built-In Blu-Ray drives on PS3's. This war is far from over gentlemen.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 7:03 p.m. CST

    who the heck actually still buys porn, anyway?

    by TallBoy66

    Its for free on the intraweb, you know. Yeah, its harder to find full-length pornography, but I'm fine with a a few 7 seconds clip on loop. Does the job, really.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 8:15 p.m. CST

    My take...

    by Lobanhaki

    Well, as far as porn goes, there's a little something called moving the camera back. if you can't stand the detail, get out of the close up. Because of the high definition, it'll look better in the *ahem* long shots than VHS or DVD would. On the subject of the format wars, format may become a distinction without a difference. I have heard on the news that a new combo player has been released capable of playing both formats. this is the beauty of optical formats: it's all read by basically the same mechanisms. This is how you can get that neat combo drive that burns all those different formats. After combo drives become common, it's no different than deciding between DVD-R and DVD+R.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 9:47 p.m. CST


    by zombieslayer

    Sony always loses the format wars.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST


    by Mace Tofu

    You know that someone who worked on the Frame-by-Frame digital restoration of the Bond films and other classics will go off and start their own side business doing all those classic Pornos that were shot on film back in the day. Criterion could even do a boxset as some of those older movies were more a arty "X" than the "XXXXXX" porns today. Yeah Lo, those Blu-Ray/HD-DVD combo players are the way to go but they still have to get it under $200 for me to run out and get one. I'll stick with my FAUX HD upconverter player for now.

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 2:45 a.m. CST

    "I've never heard about anybody I know buying porn DVD"

    by Triumph poops!

    Acappellaman, just an FYI. You said "I've never once heard about anybody I know buying porn on DVD." Well, that may be true of your friends or those you hang out with, but don't think for a second that adult DVDs are chump change or that no one's out there picking them up in droves. In 2006 the porn industry reported a marked increase in DVD sales, with California-based Adult Video News noting a revenue of $4.28 BILLON from sales of porn DVDs alone. That was billion with a "B". So someone's sure out there running up their Mastercard!

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Thank Christ

    by TheFunkyEnigma

    I got a 360 instead of holding out for ps3.....Its great to know my wanking future is secure.

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    topaz4206.. about you "facts"

    by Nachokoolaid

    But how many of those Blu-ray players were specifically for movies? <p> 100% of the HD-DVD players were for movies.

  • Jan. 16, 2007, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Triumph... $4.28 Billion...


    I don't doubt that, but there's no indication as to how many of those DVDs were bought by rental stores and rental outlets like Intelliflix. Just because they're selling doesn't mean that people aren't renting them more often. Not saying that HD-DVD won't benefit from this development, I just can't believe it will be the deciding factor. I agree with what almost everyone else has said: The Internets have changed the way we get our porn, plus full-on bukkake in 1080i is a little too much for even me to enjoy.

  • Jan. 16, 2007, 4:39 a.m. CST



    Whether the PS3s were bought "specifically" for movies is irrelevant. According to research done by the Blu-ray camp, 90% of the people who bought the PS3 (to keep, rather than Ebaying it,) said they are interested in buying Blu-Ray movies since the PS3 plays them. Whether or not that was their intention when they bought the system, it doesn't matter. If their favorite movies come out on BR, that side earns the customer. If all those same people went out and spent an additional $500 on HDDVD players, then those numbers become moot, but that's quite the long shot. And face it, I'd much rather have 90% of 687,000 people on my side than 100% of 92,000. Plus, it's a simple fact, every person that buys a PS3 automatically takes part in the format war, and it sure sounds like BR is coming on strong.

  • Jan. 16, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Movies exclusive to Blu-Ray


    Fox, Disney, Sony/Columbia and MGM are all exclusively releasing titles on Blu-Ray. That means the following movies (whether already available on Blu-Ray or not,) will NOT be released on HD-DVD: The Star Wars films. The Alien films. The Die Hard films. Beauty & The Beast. The Little Mermaid. The Rocky films. Dances With Wolves. Pulp Fiction. Kill Bill. The Rock. The Pirates of the Carribbean films. Aladdin. The Abyss. True Lies. The Shawshank Redemption. The Terminator. A Christmas Story. A Few Good Men. Clerks. Jackie Brown. The X-Men movies. The Spider-Man movies. The Monty Python movies. Speed. Man on Fire. The Transporter. Fight Club. Con Air. Cast Away. Any of the PIXAR movies. Independence Day. Moulin Rouge. Chicago. MASH. Jerry Maguirre. Robocop. The Predator movies. Tombstone. The Planet of the Apes. The Lion King. Enemy of the State. Desperado. Home Alone. The Fifth Element. Ice Age. Platoon. The Fly. The Sound of Music. The Karate Kid movies. Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Men In Black. Office Space. The People Vs. Larry Flynt. Kramer vs. Kramer. Ghostbusters. The Crow. Not to mention TV shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, The Simpsons, The Shield, The X-Files, 24, Seinfeld, or Lost. And HD-DVD has... Jenna Jameson.

  • Jan. 16, 2007, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Bill Hunt was wrong.

    by ZeroCorpse

    Back when Beta vs. VHS happened, seedy theaters were NOT the only way to watch porn at home. We had projectors and slides, and a lot of people had some pretty good collections of adult films on FILM REELS. All videotape did was expand the audience, but it didn't introduce porn to the home audience. Let me also point out that he's greatly underplaying the effect of porn on sales, because NOT EVERYBODY USES THE INTERNET. The guy who doesn't want to spend all day looking for his porn is just going to want the BEST picture on his big TV, and he wants to be able to walk into an adult store and make a purchase or rental and be on his way so he can bring it back in 20 minutes and get on with the rest of his day. Since VHS is NO LONGER AN OPTION, and 480i DVD looks like CRAP on an HDTV, his only decent option will be HD-DVD. You can bank on it: HD-DVD will win due to porn, and Blu-Ray loyalists and apologists can cite all the format history they want, but it won't change the "ease of use" factor and the "best picture quality" factor for the average Joe Consumer.

  • Jan. 16, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST

    "Whaa! HDTVs are teh expensive!" & "Not on HD-DVD"

    by ZeroCorpse

    As to the first point, that HDTVs are "too expensive", let me edumacate you heathens on HDTV: You're probably looking at one RIGHT NOW. Yes, your computer monitor is very likely at least 720p, and all you need to do is run an HD-DVD player or ATSC tuner into it (use a VGA-DVI converter if need be) and you're watching high definition content. How much did that monitor set you back? About $200, max? If that's not big enough, you can pick up a 27" CRT HDTV for around $400-$500 at the big box stores, so please stop whining about it being "too expensive" because if you get an HDTV that is of reasonable size, it's perfectly affordable. You don't need a damned 60" plasma to get into HDTV. ---- Next, I keep seeing people saying "Nyah nyah, Star Wars and [insert franchise film from FOX or SONY here] won't be on HD-DVD." and to them I say "you're probably right" BUT, I can always watch the upscaled DVD version on my HD-DVD player, which in 720p, 1080i, and 1080p, so if Spider-Man or Star Wars never hits HD-DVD, I won't be missing much; I'll have near-HD quality anyway. -- Another nice thing about HD-DVD is that many of them are dual-format HD-DVD/DVD, and that means I can watch on my other players- Not so with Blu-Ray. --- Finally, as predicted, HD-DVD has just cracked the layer puzzle, and now will be offering MORE SPACE THAN BLU-RAY, at a whopping 51GB per disc. ----- As I said earlier, people will pick up HD-DVD porn because once they get HDTVs, they'll prefer watching HD content rather than watching on an older, plain DVD player at 480i, which looks kinda chunky on an HD display.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 11:14 a.m. CST

    HD porn will simply drive

    by auraboy

    HD porn will simply drive the evolution of porn to recruit more and more perfect bodies. Great news. Less choice but finer looking fuckers. It happened to an extent with DVD being clearer than VHS. Hey, what can I say, I'm a porn optimist.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Better Actor's Director....


    George Lucas or Seymour Butts? Discuss.

  • Jan. 18, 2007, 4:18 p.m. CST


    by auraboy

    They both just say 'Faster and more intense'. Except Seymour occasionally adds, 'Now swap for the double anal', which Lucas probably never said. Except maybe when he was really annoyed.

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Nobdy buys porn on DVD anymore

    by polyh3dron

    Everyone gets their porn online now, so this really doesn't matter. Blu-Ray has more movies slated to come out this year than HD-DVD and Blu-Ray has more capacity which will be needed for those deluxe special editions of long movies like LOTR to be on one disc. HD-DVD movies will never be anything more than 30GB because that's all the spec allows and that's all the current players will recognize. TDK can make a 50 layer HD-DVD holding 2 terabytes but it won't work with HD-DVD players. Blu-Ray Discs hold more, don't cost that much more than HD-DVD(you can get a 20GB PS3 for $500) and by the end of the year there will be much more selection of films than HD-DVD. Blu-Ray has every big studio except for Universal on board, HD-DVD only has Universal, Warner and Paramount. Blu-Ray movies have been selling better than HD-DVD ever since Christmas. Blu-Ray is going to be the winner.

  • Jan. 22, 2007, 12:13 a.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse - No DVDs on Blu-Ray players??

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    My DVDs work fine in my PS3. They also appear to look better. That's probably because of the HD-TV screen and the HDMI cable feeding it a cleaner signal. I got my PS3 a few weeks ago and I love it. Resistance: Fall of Man is a fucking awesome game!!

  • Jan. 22, 2007, 12:45 a.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse - Sorry Dude, I think I misread your post.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    I thought you meant the HD-DVD players were dual format (HD-DVD/DVD) and Blu-Ray wasn't, but you meant that some HD-DVD movies have both of those formats included in the package. Have you heard of THD movies? They're supposed to have two sides. One side HD-DVD and the other Blu-Ray. Between THDs and Multidisc players this format war may last for years or just call a truce and shake hands. Who knows?

  • Jan. 23, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Looks like Vivid is doing porn on Blu-Ray

    by polyh3dron

    Check the link for an article about it:

  • May 26, 2007, 8:26 a.m. CST

    HD DVD or Blu-Ray, Microsoft wins either way

    by bart1190

    Microsoft is preparing something big and nobody seems to notice... Yet it's out there already: WMV-HD. With WMV-HD, you can watch HD even if you don't have a HD player or an HDTV... and you can watch it as soon as now! But where these guys are geniuses, it's with their strategy. They're not trying to promote the standard, they let the porn industry do it for them. In less than a year, all porn videos will be encoded with their new HD codec, and as the codec is also used to distribute High Definition videos on standard DVDs(!!!), people will play back their clips on compatible DVD players (either blu-ray or HD-DVD players) and on their computers (with standard DVD players!). The net will be the real battle ground. I already found free HD clips to download! and it's amazing. If you're not afraid of extreme close ups, have a look on this site (the clip is hidden on page 2 of the tour),you will see by yourself how msft is going to win this battle...