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UPDATED!! A Little More Information On Kevin Smith's LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD Appearance!!
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Transformerswillruletheworldcomejuly! (*sigh* - there's a troll of a screen name if I ever saw one) wrote in to follow-up on LAST WEEK'S REPORT.
The detail doesn't come as a particularly big surprise...and I'm thinking Smith's appearance could still be rather grating. But, as long as we don't have to deal with "Kevin Smith: Action Hero", I guess things could be worse.
Word has it that Smith's role is a supporting character that is a hacker/computer wiz with some witty and sarcastic dialogue. Think about the Jack Black, Seth Green, and Jamie Kennedy parts in Enemy of the State. Similar to those type of roles and dialogue that was used.
People will love this movie. It's a John McClane flick but amped up to the extreme... obviously to match "24", which I consider to be the ultimate unofficial Die Hard franchise in the absence of years past. Plenty of smart ass Willis moments!
Call me "Transformerswillruletheworldcomejuly!" ;)
Thanks for the note...appreciated.
UPDATE 12 JANUARY 2007 8:26AM CST USA
Mish sent in a bit more information from Kevin Smith's recent appearance at MacWorld Expo. Thanks for the message!
Kevin Smith appeared at MacWorld expo in San Francisco. I got to ask him what he's doing with Live free or Die Hard, and he says he has a pretty covered role, that it isn't just a cameo but a supporting role and that if they wanted to cut him out they'd have lot of cutting to do because he gets referred to throughout the film.
He described his role as "one of those dudes that you don't see until that one moment". Apparently he gives McClane some vital info to saving the day.
He was pretty hyped about it.
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People will love this movie. It's a John McClane flick but amped up to the extreme... obviously to match "24", which I consider to be the ultimate unofficial Die Hard franchise in the absence of years past. Plenty of smart ass Willis moments!
Call me "Transformerswillruletheworldcomejuly!" ;)
He described his role as "one of those dudes that you don't see until that one moment". Apparently he gives McClane some vital info to saving the day.
He was pretty hyped about it.
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Wanna see this film, I'm just an action junkie!
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The computer app they'll show him running will not only run incredibly fast, but feature incredible and totally unnecessary graphics, like highlighting a name in a list will instantly bring up pictures with 3D rotation, a map with the person's current realtime location, and info from the DOT and other government agencies. Hollywood computer app rant concluded.
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doesn't have a director at the helm, merely a hack.
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I've seen this character in 800 movies and hated them all, and lame crime investigation TV shows. This character sucks and PEOPLE WILL HATE THIS MOVIE.
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IS COOKING THE BOOKS! We all know the will be some book-cooking on that one.
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You are not an actor. You are not a director. You do not have a "vision."
Please go write books, and leave movies alone, before you decide to make "Clerks 3" with three more music videos and another ill-conceived dance number.
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Okay that was weak. LIVE FAT OR DIE OF LARD was hilarious.
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"...a hacker/computer wiz with some witty and sarcastic dialogue." Gee, I never saw that coming. Not at all. I wonder if they'll have a shot of him smoking while standing against a wall, too.
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As a coroner/informant with some witty and sarcastic dialogue. Good for him.
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maybe they should just get Simon Peg to reprise his role from MI:3. i could watch that again
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Really.
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Keep it coming.
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He is the last thing we need in a new Die Hard film.
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So Kevin Smith will be like Charlie from DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE. Buddy who got sprayed in the face with pancake syrup when he took an axe to the big bomb. That ain't bad.
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to give the character a "proper" send off after an atrocious "final installment" to the series.
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that phrase made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.
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Good god Megatron looks awful. What the fuck is that supposed to be?
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Once again, why don't we WAIT for the movie before we write it off! Don't succomb to fanboy fever. Wait for the frackin' movie. All you've seen is some small teaser trailer that was designed for a mass audience showing the biggest explosions and action shots. That's it. Hey, it's gotta be better than the terrible third movie! And for the record, I think this guy used that transformerswillrule moniker to make a point. Maybe he sees that you guys are railing on this movie just like many of you are with transformers... even though you haven't seen the finished product. Also, if he was a plant, why would he use a competing movie in his moniker? Transformers is going up against Die Hard this summer. Think people. Think.
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Good god Megatron looks awful. What the fuck is that supposed to be?
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Thats worse than flames on Optimus
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and any other decent directors that stink up the screen with their appearances
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How ground breaking...they will save in wardrobe if he wears his standard jersey and shorts....Maybe he can get into a philosophical discussion with Willis on the merits of Armegeddon versus Deep Impact?
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He's a robot, and probably doesn't have hummanoid junk. Why the codpiece?
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"A fat geek in the film does not automatically guarantee fat geek asses in theater seats." - Confucious
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What the hell does he transform to? It looks like a mess. I can't imagine what the toy and the instructions will be to change it from a robot to a car wreck.
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Damn you Len Wiseman
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In the Bay movie, Megs transforms into an alien Jet.
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I feel so ashamed.
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...and Jason Mewes at Casino Morongo in Palm Springs. They were both quiet, but they didn't mind my girlfriend and I harrassing them for pictures, and we all won an assload of money. We had an old Asian lady as the dealer and she kept asking them who they were and why people wanted pictures with them. Smith just told her, "We're nobody."
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it made much more sense in my head then printed on the screen...
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Not a fan of the Megatron design there I'll admit. Although the representation on screen will be the deciding factor. Barricade looks frickin perfect though.
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...be overly sensitive to criticism yet more than willing to criticize others? Take the bait Kevin. Resistance is futile.
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Yo Adrian! ROCKY BALBOA only cost $24m to make, it's a fifth sequel and comes 16 years after the last one, and has now grossed $61m in the US alone! It hasn't even got to international box office and DVD yet! See it again! Gaffers gotta eat!
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Steadicam operators Gotta Eat!
Key Grips Gotta Eat!
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And Hulk Hogan says' "brother"
I think that sums it all up -- or did I forget something?
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That is all. Go that way really fast. If something gets in your way...turn.
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"You wanna see the first Die Hard movie?"(Kevin runs around in a little circle, pretends to shoot someone.) "Yippee Kay-Yay, motherfucker!""You wanna see the second Die Hard movie?"(Kevin runs around in a slightly bigger circle, pretends to shoot someone.) "Yippee Kay-Yay, motherfucker!""You wanna see the third Die Hard movie?"(Kevin runs around in a bigger circle, pretends to shoot someone.) "Yippee Kay-Yay, motherfucker!"
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Too soon?
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sick of him - the into he did to Clerks II dvd - 'cmon! Pompus fuck. I did enjoy the movie (thought #1 was better - Randell's character was a shock in that one, the let down was knowing what to expect from him in #2). His intro to the DVD ruined anything and everything I ever thought about him. Smith=KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!
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So much for blending in with everyday objects. And enough with "taint" and "gotta eat". How about putting "Hentai" after every noun or phrase? Such as "Kevin Smith Hentai" or "Megatron Hentai".
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... will be sorely missed. As will any one of Britains best (ala Alan Rickman, Jeremy Irons). As will McTiernan. McTiernan rocks. I'm gonna open a can of worms and say "fast-track Rollerball 2!"
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re: "come as you are." That's exactly right. But much like Manny Ramirez, it's just Kevin being Kevin.
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fuck this wanna be 24 movie
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So I take it the film's premise is quite flimsy then.....TO THE MAX
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I am a little behind on my Die Hard knowledge, but Len Wismen is directing that does not bode well for this film at all, despite the inclusion of an extremely overplayed and cliched character of the witty fat techo geek. I was kind of excited to hear about another Die Hard film, but ole Lenny should be branded a criminal, the man should be tried at war crimes tribunal for cinematic atrocities. Jesus, are they purposely trying to sabotage this film?
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I love the transformer show from the 80's, and now Bay is bringing us a live action version. I'd rather nail my nutsack to the lincoln memorial!!!
Diehard franchise never dissapoint like an obese cat at a urinary doctors visit!!!
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Do you spell dissapoint?
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are all very irritating and grating on the nerves. I hope Kevin Smith is nothing like that.
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I'm gonna call him a nut-gobbling, butt-munching, taint-smelling cocksmoker hack of a filmmaker to see if he trashes me in public like he does everyone else.
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T-R-A-N-S-F-O-R-M-E-R-S
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you also forgot to call him a poop head.
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That they're robots in disguise. (*SPOILERS*)
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I just discovered this informational bombshell. Mute Witness is a guilty pleasure of mine, possibly the best Brian De Palma film never made, and Alec Guinness's time-travelling swansong. It's tense, funny, bloody and unpredictable. See the original before Hollywood Wicker Parks the fucker! In the words of Kevin Kline (this is for you, samuraiyao): "DISAPPOINTED!" Sorry to be off-topic, but I don't know anything about Transformers.
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Second followed by first. There's oddness a-transpiring here. I wonder where and when this post will end up? The last Stallone talkback?
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A 2.5 hour DH and 24 mash-up.
John McClane and Jack Bauer come at the same terrorist conspiracy from different angles. Jack is undercover, John finds himself unravelling a plot in NYC. McClane eventually gets lead to Bauer before realizing he's undercover. They butt heads and fight and eventually team up. Hardcore action, hardcore violence. Torture, wisecracks, etc. It could be great. Shades of Batman vs. Superman but more "realistic," in that neither character wears tights or has powers.
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Except they need a gratuitous Turkish-Bath type scene to cause mutual homophobic embarrassment and comic relief. It should happen just after they team up, but before they know each other too well.
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Yeah, just like Tango and Cash.
"Don't worry Jack, someday the other one WILL drop." "Look who's talking, Minnie Mouse!"
Classic stuff. Then Kevin Smith comes in and they go bukkakke on him. -
every comic book from the 90's? If you wanna update it for today, then you have to make it a prequel. It's not derivative, it's a prequel!
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I never read comic books. But what is 24 if not a big comic book? It's not the premise that makes the idea interesting, it's the teaming up of those two guys. Whoever sent in that so-called "scoop" is clearly a douchebag ("amped up to the extreme!") but he's not totally wrong in comparing Die Hard to 24. McClane may have made wisecracks, but the movies were serious. Not much action is anymore, it's either sci-fi (Matrix) or empty gloss (Michael Bay). McClane was human. Bauer is clearly a superhero, but at least the story lines are relevant, current event wise and push the outside of the envelope a tad. I would love to see Bauer and McClane team up. I don't have much hope for Die Hard 4, and I doubt they'd make a R-rated 24 movie, but if they combined the two, we might have a winner. Probably not, but this is a fucking AICN talkback. I'm required to talk out of my ass.
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I'm cool with him.
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Wasn't Smith cool in geekdom a decade ago? How did it get to this point? Oh yeah, he turned into self indulgent sell out. OLOLOL jay and silent bob r lyke so kewl and obscure d00dz!r0x0rz!!!11!
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The Bukakke Years starring jessica Alba. Nuff said.
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Like those baked Mexican goods downtown?
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THERE'S A BOMB IN HIS RIBCAGE!!!!
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Let's just say she would give new meaning to the term "skeet shooting". Now that's Hentaigious!
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Because I think we have a PLANT.
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OR FLAMES ON OPTIMUS, GREEDO SHOOTS FIRST, ETC.
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The man can write decently enough, but he can't direct for shit.
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An obvious plant.
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Stephen King already turned down the role.
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really Kevin Smith. That makes him a plant. Didn't anyone else spot this????
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Oh yes............he re.
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SILENT BOB IN REHAB
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"They found Saddam/
But they won't find me (naah)/
I be under a tree/
In buttfuck Tennessee." -
"They found Saddam/
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"They found Saddam/
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How many wisecracking computer nerds can you put in a half ass attempt at a "Die Hard" movie before you blow it? Does anyone else remember when John Mclane was the sarcastic one in a "Die Hard" movie?
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I ask Boss Man, "Why you got to have Comedy Guy on computer? Why not just get really good computer guy?" Boss Man say ask no questions. All Computer Guys are comedy guys. Some are Fat Guys. Remember Newman in JURASSIC PARK? I wait for raptor to say, "Oh, hello, Newman!" before he eats fat ass, but no. Boss Man should have taken over Jurassic Park. We could have attacked Bald One with dinosaurs. You are YIPPE-KAI-EATEN, Bald One! Mood: Skeptical about Fat One / pissed at Bald One. Music: Ballad of the Stone Faced Henchman by Colonel Stuart.
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the soul of that director needs to be in the mix.
AND YES...i know his current situation and YES, i know that his directing chores have been piss-poor lately.
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the script review on this site got me psyched....but why les wiseman? why the fuck why? the trailer was horrible....
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Alien Vs Predator 2. It's really shaping up...youre all gonna be totally suprised. Who would have thought it, eh? nipples on optimus=flames on kevin smith...who gotta eat, have a beer and cheet on his wife.
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John McClane IS supposed to be the wise cracking one. What the hell happened to this franchise??!!
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there is NO WAY AVP2 will be good in any way shape or form. I'm sorry to inform.
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Jan 11, 2007 5:50:11 PM CST
Same people making fun of this movie will be suckin....
by sydbarretsmydad
Bruce Willis cock if he does a Sly type Q&A with AICN before the movie opens.
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THERE! are you all happy now? i said "gotta eat"...now can we let it die?...HARD....OOOOOOOOHHHH SNAP!
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BROTHER!
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who is he and how does he know all this information that the movie will be soooo john mcclane and yet a twee bit of '24' mixed with the dialogue of enemy of the state hackers as heard by the hilarious kevin smith? i don't buy iy. but i hope he/she/it's right.
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Anything remotely positive that is posted on this site is labeled as a PLANT. That's just the mantality of film buffs (who have now evolved into fanboys thanks to AICN). Give me a break. Is that the best way you can back up your preconceived viewpoints (which are always based on next to nothing)? By saying such positive news is a plant? Clearly the problem nowadays. The magic of genre filmmaking is gone. Before AICN/Internet existed... and virtually no inside spy news was out there, we'd see the teasers for Die Hard 4 and Transformers and flip out over them. I remember seeing a two page spread of Stargate in one of the sci-fi magazines and just being pumped as hell. That feeling added to the movie, which yes, was a mixed bag in the end, but still a great experience. Now though, if a movie doesn't meet each and every expectation, you guys blast it. We've been spoiled... and spoiled hard. I said it before and I'll say it again, at least wait until the damn film comes out... just so you can have even an ounce of validity for your arguments. Okay, you CAN say "I didn't like the teaser", but to say this movie is going to suck is just a typical TBers/fanboy cynical response. You're ruining the whole film experience for yourselves by prejudging movies based on an image or two, or a 60 second teaser. But to each his own I guess.
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Jan 11, 2007 7:22:55 PM CST
i hope they take it to the next level...to the XTREME!
by screamingpenis
talk to the hand, brother! seriously, die hard has been a fine franchise. i'm looking forward to this.
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yeah kevin smith better be different for this role, not just playing himself sitting at a computer, its kinda dumb and might ruin the movie if he plays the part wrong. shaving his beard might help and not being funny would help even more, or just saying one thing for two seconds and then cut to next scene would be the best. i don't want to be taken out of the movie and have some dumb scene i have to fst forward thru. he should be serious cause this ius a serious situation. wise cracking hackers has been done. what i am saying now has been said. i know he filmed the scene already so i hope he did us right. us the fans of the films which i've been since the first one came to hbo when i was young.
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yeah kevin smith better be different for this role, not just playing himself sitting at a computer, its kinda dumb and might ruin the movie if he plays the part wrong. shaving his beard might help and not being funny would help even more, or just saying one thing for two seconds and then cut to next scene would be the best. i don't want to be taken out of the movie and have some dumb scene i have to fst forward thru. he should be serious cause this ius a serious situation. wise cracking hackers has been done. what i am saying now has been said. i know he filmed the scene already so i hope he did us right. us the fans of the films which i've been since the first one came to hbo when i was young.
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Usually I wait until AFTER a films release to pretend it doesn't exist. In this case, I'm starting now.
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you fucks.
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Carry on, don't mind me.
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dont you agree?
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I'd pay money to see him get blown the fuck up, no question. Smarmy no talent claptrap GOTTA BOOM.
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But Jesus, "he'll be like Jack Black or Seth Green." Those two dung swishers? Come on Kevin, you wrote the Superman cumshot line in Mallrats, dont stoop to this.
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I have NEVER heard of a computer guy with smart/witty comebacks. These are the same people who use "pwned" conversationally.
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First and foremost because of saying that something is "to the extreme" but without being sarcastic and making it sound like "extreeeeeeeme!", which is the only acceptable way.
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I mean how cool would that be???? smiths cracks on starwars,LOTR and some political views thrown in with Will's wise cracks... im getting a bonner even thinking about it.
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...lol...will there be EXTREME action with snowboards? Will Vin Diesel be in it? How EXTREME will it be? Will there be EXTREME OPS?
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every time kevin smiths name pops up on aicn, there seems to be a chorus of "waaaaaa- we hate smith!", can anyone honestly tell me why the hate? and why hate on his old lady? dude gets married to a chick and we get "waaaaaa- smith gets some". all the guy does is make movies; some of us like them, many don't. but when dude releases a film, we get "waaaaaaa- smith is spending some not-mine cash to make another movie"- it really boils down to an 'a-b' conversation; those unimpressed with smiths work should not support it, and 'c' their way out. i suspect that if smith ever did a stallone-caliber q&a (once again, a great idea, btw kevin and harry), we'd all go "woooooo! smith we love you!". cut the man a bit of slack; as the popular catchphrase goes (right now, anyways) "smith gotta eat". let the man earn his keep (or not) and let the box office decide whether or not he should continue in his chosen field. we, as geek nation, rose up as one to show stallone how much we supported him in general, and his piece of art in particular. maybe that's what we need to do here, in the opposite direction.
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If we wanted to interact with Smith we could all just go over to movie poop shoot or whatever his site is. Sly got respect because he deserved it Smith wouldn't because the guy is a cock. He would rather exchange childish insults with talkbackers than interact with people on the level Sly did.
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He is fat.
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I can't blame Kevin Smith for wanting to do this. Who wouldn't want to be in a film with John McMotherfuckingClane? I just hope it's not too jarring. Please, makers of Live Free Or Die Hard, can you at least give us that? Also, I hope Argyle returns at the very end, Vin Diesel style. Argyle's got some momma bears who are hot to trot...
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Or just erect a 4 foot brick wall. They'll never get over it.
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I'm sure he is an okay guy, but I just don't like his movies. I find his dialogue rambling, almost essay like, especially in Dogma...it's like he tries to reproduce conversations he's had with his friends after a few beers and a couple joints! It's interesting but not in a movie. And he has appeared in non-event roles in everything (even a Daffy Duck cartoon), so I guess he wants to act as well (voicing someone in the TMNT flick - maybe an IT guy)...truth be told, if I was in the business, I would do everything as well because well, damn, I have got to eat...sigh....but I for one have no interest in him or his work, but probably will see Die Hard or Live Free or whatever its called, simply for the blockbuster spectacle of it...its not going to win Oscars, but it may be entertaining. Whether I contribute to the big money Willis gets through my cinema ticket, or my dvd ticket, is the question. Um...do I add 'Brother' here or later...I love taint it cool - great site!
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But I like the idea of going all 24 with the Die Hard franchise.
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...At which point the Donald will come on TV and utilize every media outlet there is to announce to all the whole world what a truly talentless hack and ginormous lard ass Smith is too. It's coming, just wait for it. At which point hopefully the Donald will use some of his money to buy up any film stock from DIE FREE that has Smith in it and burn it, thus sparing all real DIE HARD fans from Smith's shit-tacular cameo which Fox should yank out anyway!
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Trying to start a trend...
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That trailer blew.
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http://tinyurl.com/twab2
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grok both your points, and totallunderstand where you both come from (especially the kirby dis, agent), but the hate this cat earns is akin to what is usually reserved for don murphy, ratner. mcg, mino, or any other of the (rightfully so) insults to geek nation. and judge, as you have pointed out, sly DID come to our house and courted us, rightfully earning our respect, greater admiration, and ultimately our dollars. all i'm saying is, if being opinionated is a crime, execute that poor bastard in the xformer/venom thread who keeps holding onto hope that xformers won't be a total shitfest:) as far as poop shhot or view askew- yep, we sure could interact with him over there at his house, but this poor bastard is holding onto hope that he'll come to ours
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