Jan. 10, 2007, 1:57 p.m. CST
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jan. 10, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jan. 10, 2007, 1:59 p.m. CST
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:28 p.m. CST
...Can you please point me in the direction of my imminent death?
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:29 p.m. CST
by Abin Sur
The only thing this picture tells me is that the guy behind Kirk is gonna bite it in about 10 minutes...
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:34 p.m. CST
by Pound Sand
Can we bring this sort of technology to update the Brady Bunch? I would love to see somebody give the Pimp My Ride treatment to the family station wagon. Or update Cousin Oliver so that he has contacts. Or give Sam the Butcher an iPod. Stuff that like would be great.
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:38 p.m. CST
Let Lucas and ILM have a crack at it so roughly 20 million things are happening in the background.
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST
by Abin Sur
But the Atlanta ABC affiliate shows them in DTV format, not HDTV format...plus they bury them at about 1am Sunday morning too (but Tivo corrects that).
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:40 p.m. CST
I wasn't immpressed with Balance of Terror. Felt like baby steps.
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:42 p.m. CST
by Mr Incredible
The affliate in my town shows them at odd times or not at all. I wondered if it was worth the time to hunt it down. The episode I'm waiting to see if they it do justice is "The Doomsday Machine".
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST
by Tin Snoman
Looks kinda tainted to me...
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST
..sorry, but it makes me laugh. Having said that, I disagree with myself; this Star Trek update is long overdue. Can't wait to eat it with my eyes.
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:48 p.m. CST
Do you have an XBOX 360? If so, they're available for download via XBOX LIVE; they have them in HD. They are a little behind posting the recently aired eps, but they're catching up.
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:50 p.m. CST
There have been MANY improvements since "Balance". It's still not perfect, but...overall...the results are now *much* classier and organic.
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST
as well. While you can only get the 1st season episodes as of now, you can get a pretty good take of the strides they made between BoT, and The Menagerie or Space Seed.
Jan. 10, 2007, 3:19 p.m. CST
...I will certainly buy these if they come out on DVD, but here's a question for you to ask Paramount. Will they go back, for a dvd release, to make all the effects equal or will we have this uneven application? I am not really interested in purchasing a work in progress, but if they are committed to a uniform, high quality updated effects release, I will happily fork over my bucks.
Jan. 10, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST
Wait til George Lucas gets a hold of these episodes. He'll have Kirk yelling "Yipeeee!" everytime the Enterprise jumps to warp.
Jan. 10, 2007, 3:58 p.m. CST
Let's face it, the Doomsday Machine will be the most watched, and most scrutinized episode they do. I've watched these and they are good, not over done, but often effects and clean up is lacking, specks and spots that could have easily been lifted have been left. But yet the bridge push in shot they did in "The Menagerie" was jaw dropping (although small) and that took some real CGI work to get that shot to look that good. Doomsday will be the high watermark because it's been done and re-done already, by fans efforts and they look great. They are going to have to really bring their A game when they show off that episode.
Jan. 10, 2007, 4:16 p.m. CST
This is exactly what I was afraid of. They started with the big guns (Balance of Terror, City on the Edge of Forever), ostensibly to bring out the good stuff as soon as possible, but I would've preferred it if they had done some low-key episodes first, to work out the kinks before the messed with the touchstones. 'Cause let's face it, there's no way they're gonna go back and fix up those early eps. Damn. Well, at least now they're up and running.
Jan. 10, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST
by Big Bad Clone
Just look at that redshirt's face!
Jan. 10, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST
Thanks for the note, mate. I can't blame them for trying to lure people back into original Trek. I encourage them to keep refining the effects, maybe even budgeting a little more to get the process down. If they do that, let syndication be their lab. However, for an eventual Hi-Def release, they really need to do a "in for a penny, in for a pound" approach. If you are going to upgrade the effects, the film stock, and the music, then you need to apply a consistent level of quality from the first episode to the last. At the least, this means taking your approach to the last remastered episode and applying it to however many episodes used inferior processes.
Jan. 10, 2007, 5:03 p.m. CST
Well, let's hope for the best.
Jan. 10, 2007, 5:38 p.m. CST
The shot looks like shit.
Jan. 10, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST
by Sir Loin
CBS Digital really is doing a great job, if you haven't seen any of these yet. The remastered things "fit" the look of the show and there are many subtle things they've added, such as computer screens actually WORKING on the bridge. You can tell these guys care about what they're doing, and are listening to fan feedback. Unlike a certain other guy whose initials are GL.
Jan. 10, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST
by Sir Loin
Forgot to mention, TREKMOVIE.COM has breakdowns of each remastered episode, with comparison shots so you can see what's been updated, along with video clips and other info. Word has it that the CBS guys read that site and its comments...
Jan. 10, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST
cg is going on what? 20 some years now...I forget when "young shelock holmes" came out but it seems like the more "advanced" cg gets, the shittier it looks with VERY few exceptions. The lighting is usually off especially when real actors are involved and it just looks fake. Right now, I'd settle for the painted backdrops of Wizard of Oz compared to the crap getting made nowadays. They woulda been better off making a model and comping it into that Trek shot..woulda looked ALOT better!
Jan. 10, 2007, 6:42 p.m. CST
by CTU Mole
even in the much reviled SW Prequels where you can't tell what's CG and what's a model. It works a lot of the time but even when it doesn't, it looks better than a static matte painting.
Jan. 10, 2007, 6:51 p.m. CST
I'm in Los Angeles. Anyone want to help a nigga out and lemme know what time/channel these are on?
Jan. 10, 2007, 6:59 p.m. CST
Jan. 10, 2007, 7:06 p.m. CST
It's like I am totally rediscovering the series. I love each ep trying to figure out what new changes they have made. It's on at 5:00 here in Sacramento, right after Farscape on Saturday. The same place that is the home of 3 star trek bands, lol. Check out Warp 11! Sacramento's finest star trek band. www.warp11.com
Jan. 10, 2007, 7:35 p.m. CST
by white owl
the question is... WHEN IS MARIO GONNA TAP THAT SORORITY ASS ON BEAUTY AND THE GEEK?
Jan. 10, 2007, 7:45 p.m. CST
I agree, they are getting better. For Some Stupid reason the local CBS station here failed to air "I Mudd" so I missed that one, but "The Corbomite Manuever" looked really good, so did "Space Seed". I guess my nitpick for now is that the starfield in the space shots suck. Maybe they are trying to keep that part of the FX looking like the Original, but for me it just doens't work. With the Kick Ass CGI ship and planets there should also be a more realistic starfield surrounding them.
Jan. 10, 2007, 8:32 p.m. CST
Stars don't move through space, stop it! I hate that more than anything else.
Jan. 10, 2007, 9:16 p.m. CST
I kind of looked into some of the comparison screen-grabs and must say I am impressed. Get me excited - what is the overall feeling about them?
Jan. 10, 2007, 9:59 p.m. CST
But if the episodes are going to be in HD shouldn't they be in widescreen the entire time and not just when a ship or a planet is on-screen? The jump from 16:9 to 4:3 is awkward and distracting...
Jan. 10, 2007, 10:08 p.m. CST
Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor not Bob Shaye!"
Jan. 10, 2007, 10:34 p.m. CST
Example: Catspaw. Frigging beautiful matte opening on the haunted castle. Then they end with the same pipe-cleaner puppets on strings as the original (and thats a strict effects insert shot). They do a nice job on the android innards in the Mudd episode, but leave other things alone (star chart in Balance of Terror). I guess us geeks bitched so much about Lucas and Star Wars that their a bit gun shy about going too far, and now I can't help feeling they're not going quite far enough. Still having a blast rewatching shows I haven't seen in 20 years.
Jan. 10, 2007, 10:47 p.m. CST
These losers have been plugging their dumbassed Warp 11 band for a coon's age.[br] [br] Jesus. With an audience as massive as the Trekker audience is, they must really eat their own balls if they have to resort to links from AICN.[br] [br] I'm just sayin'.
Jan. 10, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST
by Bill Clay
The effects don't go far enough. They could really jazz up the old episodes with some modern fx, but they seem to be too scared to make big changes. In many episodes the updating is so slight as to be imperceptible.
Jan. 10, 2007, 11:49 p.m. CST
knowing what's aletered each week. I'm not a hardcore trekkie though. I haven't watched the original series a zillion times. I'm sure hardcore fans know right away. It's good to know they don't over do it with the modern effects. they just create the simple effects they wish they could have made at that time.
Jan. 10, 2007, 11:54 p.m. CST
...in the late 60's. That's fine. Gene would have loved it. If they go overboard it'll stick out like a sore thumb. It's Trektastic! It's important to retain the look and feel of the show for prosperity.
Jan. 11, 2007, midnight CST
by Det. John Kimble
Looks like they recreated the opening titles and scenes with the Khan's ship.
Jan. 11, 2007, 12:22 a.m. CST
It does look fantastic. Seeing the space scenes in widescreen isn't much of a distraction really, since you're seeing an entirley different viewpoint from the rest of the show. I have to agree that the quality of the CG has improved. Just wish I didn't have to pay 3 bucks a pop to watch these in HD on my Xbox; I'd rather see this on my Comcast or spring for the inevitable blu-ray or hd-dvd disc.
Jan. 11, 2007, 1:48 a.m. CST
Star date 4.777843: Im sure....this city.....was notbehiind...us before....Scotty....rest in piece....
Jan. 11, 2007, 2:52 a.m. CST
It looks nice but I'm curious as to what it looked like originally. Are there any side-by-side comparisons anywhere?
Jan. 11, 2007, 4:25 a.m. CST
Plus it looks like they've been under a sunbed a bit too long.
Jan. 11, 2007, 6:09 a.m. CST
I like the fact that they kept it retro, and that they don't overdo it. It really does look like the original effects people just had better resources. One of the charms of Star Trek is that fact that it's kind of cheesy. If they start overdoing everything then you'll lose that cheesy 60's sci-fi feel. Can't wait for these things to hit store shelves.
Jan. 11, 2007, 6:13 a.m. CST
...you'll start to see the cracks in the ply wood, the wrinckles in the curtain backdrops, the plastic sitting on top of leonard nimoy's ears.
Jan. 11, 2007, 8:28 a.m. CST
Dude, I just fucking love the band and it's trek related. I'm not in the band, idiot. And learn how to use html tags. <P> Is there a trailer for the remastered Space Seed episode available? What does the CGI look like for Kahn's ship? More Enterprise like?
Jan. 11, 2007, 8:54 a.m. CST
The Doomsday Machine. If any ST;TOS ep was effects intensive, that one was it. I hope they go overboard on it, with some great shots of the wrecked Constellation, high end battle scenes and so forth.
Jan. 11, 2007, 9:04 a.m. CST
Space Seed was the best Trek remastered I've seen yet. Khan's ship looked exactly the same, only more detailed and realistic. Check out this video of FX shots. <p> http://tinyurl.com/y4mgw9
Jan. 11, 2007, 9:08 a.m. CST
Here is a comparison shot. Good website too. <p> http://tinyurl.com/y24kn2
Jan. 11, 2007, 9:23 a.m. CST
Older effects from the first few episodes ARE being redone to match the newer ones.
Jan. 11, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST
Some people are happy with nothing. If they made, huge, major obvious changes to the series, people would complain they changed the classics too much. The point of this rerelease was not cool special effects. It was to remaster the series, and fix cheesy effects where they could without screwing with the original too much. Some of the changes have worked very well.
Jan. 11, 2007, 9:58 a.m. CST
AICN picked a strange example to show people. Not the best representation of the series' changes at all. Would it kill AICN to make a couple of video captures of their own??
Jan. 11, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST
It would be interesting to see Shatner's version of the film, and how he originally wanted it to be.
Jan. 11, 2007, 10:32 a.m. CST
Star Trek is on at 12am on Mondays. I TIVO them every week. They look great in HD. I think all the work has been fine. People are nitpicking.
Jan. 11, 2007, 10:40 a.m. CST
I find the original Trek hard to watch. To me the worst part was always the lighting. Did they not know anything about cinematic lighting back then? Not to mention the sets and 60's attire. Very hard to watch.
Jan. 11, 2007, 10:41 a.m. CST
Unfortunately, it wasn't the lousy FX that made it such a bad movie.
Jan. 11, 2007, 11:22 a.m. CST
Yeah, I've definitely seen better matte work in the previous episodes. Check out the side by side shots of the picnic scene from The Menagerie... <p> http://tinyurl.com/ylfvzu
Jan. 11, 2007, 11:52 a.m. CST
Checked out all of the VFX reels on Youtube. So basically, they inserted a bunch of shots of the new bridge big screen plasma tv that Captain Kirk is hawking in commercials these days. Magnavox is it? Shameless...
Jan. 11, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST
bones is dead. please stop with the catchphrases.
Jan. 11, 2007, 2:33 p.m. CST
Does anyone know which of the remastered are on itunes? It seems to be a mixed bag. Some of the itunes, like Space Seed and corbomite are remastered and others are the regular. I had suggested long ago that TOS should be remastered with new CGI shots. While they are trying to do it with a light touch with just cleaner ship models (I'm assuming the star bases will also be cleaned up), I think there might be some leeway to really jazz up some of the scenes (better space battles, better establishing shots of planets, better star fields and warp effects, and swapping out matte paintings for CGI cities, or adding in civilizations where needed, such as a Vulcan, and maybe even better monsters although that Gorn that was done for ENT was horrible, keep man in suit. I think there will probably be remastering 1.0 and if they sell lots of DVDs, we might see 2.0 in a few more years on blu-ray.
Jan. 11, 2007, 2:58 p.m. CST
Even though the channel is the CW channel in HD. Instead it airs with those black bars on the side. Sad.
Jan. 11, 2007, 3:02 p.m. CST
Yeah and it looks like it was filmed in the 60's. Imagine that lol. They're just retaining the look of the show. Be kind of weird if they were suddendly standing in some fantastic CG virtual world. Totally out of place. I'm glad they're staying faithful to the era in which these classic episodes were made.
Jan. 11, 2007, 3:10 p.m. CST
It's a good story. F/Xs came second. When you're engaged in a good storyline effects don't matter as much. What they're doing is just adding new effects that compliment the existing material in a way that the effects have continuity and aren't falling apart at the seems. It all matches and can be perserved forever in a digital format. The originals will never be lost, but future generations can see the updated version and better understand Roddenberry's vision. In a more presentable fashion that doesn't have extremely low budget shoty effects.
Jan. 11, 2007, 3:18 p.m. CST
I sound like George Bush. I state the obvious and talk down to everyone lol. Like I'm saying. What don't you get people? Duh! lol.
Jan. 12, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST
Thanks for the link! Much appreciated.
Jan. 12, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST