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Harry interviews James Cameron regarding AVATAR - Part 1!

Hey folks, Harry here… Today was a weird day. I was out shopping for my fiancee’s birthday and our upcoming 1 year anniversary – when suddenly my cel phone began letting out with “When you Wish Upon A Star,” – the screen read that it was originating from California – and the voice stated it was Jon Landau of Lightstorm Entertainment. OOOOO. K. We exchange niceties – and Jon moves on to the business at hand. Seems that Fox had just announced and released a press release stating that they had formally greenlit AVATAR – big duh – they’ve only been shooting stuff on secret stages that only our spies know about for the past 4 months… but whatever, I suppose their stocks needed a lift. But whatever the case may be, Jon was calling to give me fair warning that James Cameron wanted to talk to me later today. No set time mind you, just… later today. Ok – so it was at this point that I put off the shopping till tomorrow – and I got back home to all my recording whiz bang stuff – hooked the cel phone up to my robotic secretary that looks like Maria from METROPOLIS and waited for Jim’s call. This was approximately 3:58pm. When given this kind of heads up – you quite the liquids and you don’t eat. Nothing can take you away from your post. You must be alert, ready – diligent. Finally – the cuckoo struck Seven and Fincher was nowhere in sight. BUT – the phone rang… and James Cameron was on the line… Jim – Hello Harry – Hey, Jim how’re you? Jim – Good, Harry how’re you? Harry – Oh, good. Jim – You believe it’s me this time, it’s not one of your friends pulling a prank on ya. Laughs Harry – Nah, I definitely recognize your voice. Jim – Alright (chuckles) Good. So we’re doing this little movie, AVATAR, which you got the scoop on. Harry – Absolutely. Jim – So now it’s time to tell the rest of the world about it. So is there anything you’d like to know that hasn’t gone out in the press release? Harry – Why so long? Why is this going to take till 2009? Jim – Well – it’s the photorealism. You know, in terms of my ‘gung ho’ directing, I’ll be done in terms of a cut of the picture by… um… probably November of this year. And then the rest of the time after that, which is going to be like a year and a half is just going to be me working with the effects guys day in and day out to get the visual caliber up to the highest level. Harry – Now, while your doing the Visual Effects work on this, will you be doing any work on BATTLE ANGEL.. Jim – Probably, Yeah, I’ll probably be sliding into PRE on Battle Angel during that time, it’s hard for me to know, until I’ve gone through the process to know what my time management is going to be capable of. You know, if I spend 5 hours a day doing Visual FX, which is probable, that will leave me time to do Battle Angel. If it winds up being 8 hours a day. NO. But I can’t answer that for right now. I’m hoping to telescope Pre on Battle Angel into post on Avatar. Which has always been the plan. Harry – If you would, explain to my audience why it takes this amount of time to achieve photorealism, because don’t we get that in a faster turn around on films today – or is that just not up to the photorealistic standards you’re setting for this picture? Jim - You do. Well you do, but part of. You know – we’re working with Weta which is a smaller company. They don’t THROW people at it. They’d rather do it with the same 150 artists that really know the characters, which relatively speaking, is a smaller team than ILM or somebody like that, which might throw 300 or more seats at it for a period of time. And I think that that is actually good. It helps with the cost and it helps with the quality. AND it helps with the character. The characters will be consistent throughout. The creatures are all animated. The humanoid characters, I think you know a little about the story – you have the Na’vis as the kind of indigenous peoples are going to be played by actors and their performances will be baked in by the performance capture process, so the animators will have less to do there other than to tweak and massage and to work on the hair and the physics of the clothing and that sort of thing to make it all real and to work on the lighting. Ya know, but you have a lot of animation that has to be done with all the creature characters in the film. So I’m really looking forward to that part of it – and that’s all in post. Although we have had some success with doing some of the creatures using performance capture which is kinda wacky in how much you can do with a human performer. We have these flying creatures called Banshees, and we’ve been trying performance capture with the Banshees and it has been working… ya know, how they land, how they crash, how they get shot Harry – What do you performance capture to get a flying creature? Jim – You get a creature guy and you give him a wand in each hand that corresponds to his wingtips and you get him to think like a pterodactyl and it actually works, though the targeting is a little strange some times. But it works or at least it works ENOUGH that I can compose the kind of shots I want, so I’m not just composing with negative space for something that just gets added later. Harry – How much of this is Performance Capture versus from scratch animation? Jim – Well – Like I said it’s gonna divide.. or bifurcate on whether it’s a humanoid or non-human creature. The Banshees and the other creatures are going to be about 90% or 95% animated. And with the humanoids hopefully we’re going to be coming down to 95% capture with the exception of ears and like I said clothing and hair and stuff like that. Harry – How far along are you on the casting process, I saw that you had Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana… Jim – Pretty far – Pretty far. Well Sam is a big milestone for us. Because the studio was equivocating for a long time about making this with a star, even though originally it was conceived as a non-star film. I think there was a moment kinda towards the end of their due diligence process that made them want a Star. Harry – What was it about Sam that made you want to pull him in? Jim – Well, we found Sam about six months ago now. I was familiar with him from before, he came in and read for me and I just really liked him. He has a quality. You know how Russell Crowe has this kinda innate strength about him and how in GLADIATOR men would follow him into hell. Well Jake (Sully the character) needs to have that and for a young guy. And most of these young guys, they’re either physical, meaning that they’re like buff handsome guys who are pretty good actors; or they have a kind of vulnerability that they can reach, but very few of them know how to stand up and be a man. Ya know, in the old school way – in the way that MEN will respond to. It’s fine for a guy to be attracted to women, but I need the male audience to respond to this guy and say , “Yeah, I see why people would follow him.” So ultimately he becomes this messianic leader who leads them into battle… in the old school Edgar Rice Burroughs, Rudyard Kipling, H. Rider Haggard way. Where a guy kinda wanders into a situation in another culture, then rises through the ranks – or whatever – a Lawrence of Arabia kinda of story. Usually the guy has a military background, usually he is disillusioned or broken in some sort of way. It fits that kinda profile and Sam hits all those beats beautifully. He’s just a really good actor. Harry – What made y’all want to announce to the world right now with names like Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana – I mean will there be more recognizable names attached in parts? Jim – Yeah. I think the studio just wanted to state that “we’re doing this film” There will be additional casting announcements coming up. I still have to cast – ya know – I don’t know if you remember from the treatment – but some of the characters have been retained like (couldn’t hear this name) – so some of the major nemeses are yet to be cast. We still haven’t cast Grace yet, you know, who becomes his ally and she runs the, in the new script she runs the Avatar program. So yes, I think there will be some significant casting announcements coming up. The studio just wanted to drive a stake in the ground and say “We’re doing this, Watch out Summer 2009, don’t plan your big summer movie on Memorial day Mr Spielberg or Disney or whatever. Harry – Take us through what you’re aiming for – for the visual texture of this film. Jim - Well, it’s Photorealism, but I think that doesn’t mean it won’t have a cinematic style … and whatever Cinematic style that we adopt – and there’s still some testing to be done there – it has to work equally well in shooting HD DIGITAL STEREO and with CG. So whether it is a hard light look or something soft with some diffusion or whatever kinda color treatment it is… whatever we decide on as our look – that kind of look up table has to work for the digital cameras as well as the cg stuff so that the audience really feels they’re watching one seamless thing. People should not be thinking that was live action and that was CG. Harry – How early will you tease us with an image? Jim – That’s a good question, because what happens is there’s an awful big flurry of activity for like a year and you finally get one shot that you like and then after that another 1500 shots have to come in batches of hundreds. I would think that realistically it’d be SHOWEST of 07 – I’m sorry – of SHOWEST of 08 Harry – Wow Jim – Yeah, that’s ok – that’s just 14 months away – and by the way – that’s still 14 months before release. Harry – (laughs) Yeah, it’s just curious to see… {loud noises in the background – Jim yells, “Yeah?” “Hang on a second” – then silence – and suddenly one word is heard, “FIRE” then silence… then “Let me finish up this call” Loud noises in background} Jim – Hey, Harry? Harry – Yeah? Jim – Let me give you a call back. Apparently we have a fire about a half mile away and in dry Malibu with the winds blowing – We’re kinda all assholes and elbows here. I’ll call when I know. Harry – Alright, be safe. Jim – Alright – bye. And with that – Jim was gone. According to the L.A. Times a fire raged through Malibu last night through a “celebrity enclave” – Let’s hope that Jim and all his people are ok – and that the fire was controlled before damaging anything of his. I haven’t heard from Jim since, but hopefully later today we’ll reconnect given everything is ok, but for now… Man – I’m fucking jones’d to see this sucker. 2009 isn’t that far away – after all – it is 2007 – we’re already living in the future – and this film is in the not-so-distant future.

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  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:22 a.m. CST

    wow

    by Fortunesfool

    Im so excited about this I think some wee came out.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:32 a.m. CST

    Grr

    by Razorback

    I guess I have something to live for... must make it to 2009. ;)

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:31 a.m. CST

    so

    by conbarba

    this sounds so fucking cool

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Sounds great...

    by v for vienetta

    ...be cool to have Cameron back. Was kinda looking forward to Battle Angel a bit more though.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:35 a.m. CST

    LOL

    by drew mcweeny

    Most dramatic ending to an interview ever, Harry. <P>My response to the interview itself is simple: <P>Boner <P>Boner <P>Boner <P>Boner <P>Boner <P>Boner <P>Boner <P>... ad infinitum, right on through to 2009. Bring it on, motherfucker. Bring it on.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:43 a.m. CST

    psychedelic

    by psychedelic

    Hey Drew, I think I just saw your cock extending past my window. I'm going to cower under my desk now. 2 1/2 years.... sooo long,,,, ahhhhhgh... Need Cameron fix now...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:43 a.m. CST

    sounds cool

    by ne1ne2

    hope jims okay!?!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:45 a.m. CST

    woot

    by Ray Gamma

    that's all

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:46 a.m. CST

    M. Night McDingDong

    by ye olde shiza

    So, I imagine in part 2 we'll get some dirt on why the Hell Shamalamadingdong is directing a popsicle trilogy, while James Manimal Cameron is giving us the real deal, right?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Fucking A.

    by Tubbs Tattsyrup

    Paxton had better be in the damn movie or I'll be wanting at least a few cents of my money back. Sounds like JC really knows what he's doing though - glad that he's taking the extra year JUST for visual effects.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:52 a.m. CST

    mori

    by conbarba

    i guess you found the interview interesting...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:55 a.m. CST

    It seems like..

    by Dr.Zeus

    ....forever since we've gotten a film from Cameron, and it looks like it's going to be even longer now. But I have faith. And he's given us some really great films in the past. I just hope Mori doesn't put all our eyes out with that boner between now and then.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:55 a.m. CST

    M. Night better have a good alibi...

    by Flim_

    ...Because I'm sure he's the prime suspect in this arson. What a twist!!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:03 a.m. CST

    M. Night running backwards through a cornfield

    by ye olde shiza

    Did anyone see that deleted scene in Signs? It was pretty awesome. Ol' M. Night pants-less ... he took a coupla big stalks right in his ass! Ouch! <br><br> Seriously, though, I think M. Night did start that fire. He's a dog without a leash. Someone sick the ASPCA on that rabid director ... he's gone bonkers.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay running backwards through a cornfield

    by ye olde shiza

    Yep.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Thank you, Jim.

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    I actually wrote a letter to Cameron for his 49th birthday. I actually dropped it off at the Lightstorm building, on their mailbox. (Putting things IN someone's mailbox when you're not a mailman is actually a federal offense. Since my name and address were on the envelope, I decided to play it safe.) Anyway, the letter was your average fanboy lovefest - kind of embarrassing to deliver, but sincere when you write it. And since I hadn't written any kind of fan mail since I was, like, eight years old, I figured I was due for some gushing hero worship. Anyway - something tells me the letter never made it to Jim's desk. That kind of thing is either written off as immature fanboy nonsense or evidence in a stalking case. But my point in all this is: I mentioned in the letter that reading the Avatar scriptment changed my life, as it pertains to the kind of movies I want to make and his kind of dedication to the subject matter of a project. I mean, you read the script and you can just tell Cameron loves all things science. Not just science fiction, but science. Astronomy, physics, biology, natural sciences, botany, zoology - all of it. He put so much thought into creating the world of Pandora that I realized when I wrote it that if I ever wanted to really make a movie that would be something special, I'd have to love the shit out of the things the movie was about, and really dig in to the material to find something new to make of it. It blew my mind. And to think that version of the script was really just a sketch of what the final project would be - AND to think now that the movie is actually coming together, coming to life, with effects like we've never seen before, and shown in 3D, just to make the whole thing even more enveloping as an experience - I swear, man. The last time I was even *sort of* as excited about a movie was when I heard George Lucas had finally begun creating a new Star Wars trilogy after a decade and a half. (Of course, the best part is THIS movie will actually be GOOD!) So thanks, Jim. Thank you for coming back to that idea you had, that you hammered out in a basic scriptment form in the mid-90's. You thought it couldn't be done right, then you thought it would be way too expensive to make, and then you spent years developing the technology you'd need to actually bring the project to life, and here it is. You're making it breathe. I honestly think this movie is going to knock the whole world on its ass, even more than Titanic did in 1997; maybe even more than Star Wars did back in 1977. To say that I can't wait is an understatement. Plus, my son will almost be 4 years old when the movie hits, and I can't wait to take him to see it - just like when my parents took me to see Star Wars when I was that age. Damn. Thank God - Iron Jim is back in the game!!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Let the dance of the Mancats commence

    by Nabster

    Does anybody else thing such a cg intesive film is not a good thing? Especially when the characters are going to be pure cg renders? Does anybody even remember the cg characters from the new Star Wars films, and they were created by the best ILM and still there was something off about them. Even Wetas Gollum only worked in bits and peices, he was incredible, no doubt, but it was only one character. Now a whole movie with wacky CG characters layered with some strange alien mythology, this movie sounds like it is headed to be a serious flop. I hope I am wrong, however, lets be honest writing is not Camerons strong point is it?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:17 a.m. CST

    MICHAEL BIEHN!!!

    by Edward Brock

    C'mon, he's gotta get a role in this movie! Other than that, this all soud really great. I'm anticipating this movie in a way that I haven't in a long time.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:19 a.m. CST

    years

    by Seven Seas

    shit thats a long time, and im still picturing wing commander for some reason...the cats?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Edward Brock

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Totally agree, give Biehn a big meaty part Jimbo! A Cameron movie ain't a Cameron movie without Mike! Don't think i've been this excited about a film since Terminator 2!!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Nabster

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Have you seen The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss and T2? Four of the best sci-fi films ever. I've got faith in Cameron on this one.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:27 a.m. CST

    JIM CAMERONS' EXES GOTTA EAT!

    by Driver8

    Cameron=Quality. Looking forward to it.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Nabster, I'm not trying to start a war here, but

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    ... if you don't think writing is one of Cameron's strong points, you don't know a lot about writing. He's one of the best in the industry! If not THE best. True, it's my opinion, and it's admittedly heavily biased, but one of the biggest reasons I've been a Cameron fan my whole adult life is because of the things I learned about writing by watching his films so many times. I wouldn't know Jack Crap about story structure if it hadn't been for Cameron's writing.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:35 a.m. CST

    LIGHTSTORMER

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Well said. His dialogue can be a little corny (hello Titanic) but when it comes to story structure Cameron is king.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Avatar could be JC's Phantom Menace

    by Razorback

    I don't mean that it will not be good, or even great (I think TPM is actually a fun movie), or that it will be blasted for its heavy use of effects... but that people will EXPECT TOO MUCH and it will be blasted for not living up to ridiculous expectations.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Razorback

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Good point, it's easy to get carried away with hyperbole. Cameron usually delivers though.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Nabster, actually

    by conbarba

    i believe davy jones is pretty much the first really believable all cg character out there now, so i think what Cameron says is achievable right now. I think it will be awesome.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Yes James has made some great Sci Fi flicks

    by Nabster

    But none of them were as out there as Avatar is going to be. And none of them are going to be as technically intensive has Avatar, thats a given. Those movies were ground breaking in terms of special effects for their time, especially T2 and the Abyss. T1 on the other hand has not aged well and is a fairly clunky and clumsy film. THis movie cannot bank on the same factor, of being able to wow people with new effects, with so many tentpole films and effects ladden movies we have become desensitized to special effects and cg characters. Just look at new Star Wars Prequels, they had some of the greatest effects sequences ever to grace the movie screens, however, there is only so much one can watch before it becomes uninteresting. I ofcourse hope I am wrong, but the prospect of photorealistic CG characters is not something overly excites me. Has great has some of his movies have been I don't see Avatar broaching the success of those films at all, the obscure Sci Fi storyline is going to alienate mainstream moviegoers in my opinion.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Photorealistic CG was doable ten years ago

    by Razorback

    It is more about cost and time... though, ten years ago they didn't have all the lighting/shading tools they do now that make the effect seem more realistic. What will probably be the greater challenge is making the movements of the characters seem natural.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:59 a.m. CST

    "JC's Phantom Menace"

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    I see what you're saying, Razorback, and I have to admit I'm nervous that it might come to be that way - hell, after 12 years, Cameron's gotta deliver something, and every SF / Fantasy fan in the world is going to expect their socks to be knocked off. BUT keep in mind, this is the guy who always brings some new tricks out with every new movie he has made (more than just a really fun pod racing sequence,) has a track record of consistently pushing the envelope effects-wise, has an even better track record of audience satisfaction and all-around entertainment value in his movies, plus he himself is excited to show off the kind of advances he's made in the past decade. If HE's impressed with the way things are going with this flick, how do you think the public's going to react to the movie? Add all that up and then factor in the 3D element of the film - the fact that this kind of story with these kinds of effects will be so immersive for the audience - it'll make it more than just "going to see a movie." That's why I mentioned the effect Star Wars had on the world in '77. It was unprecedented what we were seeing, just like I believe Avatar will be in '09.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:03 a.m. CST

    Conbarba

    by Nabster

    Forgot about Davy Jones, and yes you are right he was one of most fluid and believable cg characters created, but Avatar is going for cg character creation on completely different scale from what I can gather from this film. I just feel some film directors such as Lucas have lost the plot, in their quest for better effects, wouldnt we better served with the creation of better movies, or atleast more movies in the case of Cameron?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:09 a.m. CST

    All this love for Titanic?

    by MKiro

    I remember when all the fanboys dissed the hell out of that movie. Now, all of a sudden because Cameron has a geek movie in the works and has deigned to be interviewed by Harry, then 'Titanic' is suddenly a classic??!! Titanic was a hack movie. Nice effects, but overindulgent to the extreme. Sure, I want Avatar to be as great as anyone else here, but because Jim C is directing it doesn't automatically mean a slam-dunk. I'm not dissing it - just realisitically want to rein in expectation and hope. We have to wait until 2009... which means that leaves a long way to fall......

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Titanic IS a classic

    by Razorback

    No matter the shit it has received around the Internet for its love story... and really, for making a ton of money... it is an excellent movie that is certainly a classic.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Nabster - Terminator clumsy?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I watched it the other night and it was like falling in love all over again. A ferocious movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:18 a.m. CST

    Razorback Titanic a classic?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It's beautifully made, but the dialogue sinks Titanic.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Titanic was certainly an incredibly well made film

    by Nabster

    But I am not sure being the biggest money maker of all time grants it classic status, that is for each person to decide. If that was the case we could just pull up the all-time box office list to rank the greatest films, and that would be pretty stupid wouldnt it. Look the fact is his movies worked due to their special effects. Those movies were created in much more of a vacuum, but now more than ever we are bombarded with effects ladden films, the premise of so many cg characters is not something I can get so worked up about like some of you in this day in age.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Nabster, it feels like you've got it backwards.

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Titanic had to be the most technically intensive movie ever made, at least up until it was released, and then still was hard to top by other filmmakers. In terms of the stereoscopic photograhy, I can see how it would add a lot to the camel's back, but Jim's been working with this technology for years. I doubt anyone knows it as well as he does. I mean he designed the camera, for God's sake. He's not making this up as he goes along, you know? In regards to T1 being "clunky and clumsy," I think it'd be hard to imagine a movie made even today that would work as well if it had the same budget. $6 mil gets you a lot more now than in 1984, but even so, I don't think it would make the story work any better, just for being more hi-tech in its production. I actually think T2's effects have aged almost worse, but his movies still work excellently **despite** the old FX. And that's where we differ - you seem to be saying Cameron's magic lies in his effects. I believe it's his ability to create great movies, to tell great stories that has served him best over the past 23 years. I agree that we've almost become immune to snazzy visual effects. Hell, kids' movies have great effects these days with zero entertainment value beyond that sometimes. But it's Jim's ability to make the tension and excitement of an idea and a story the primary goal. Trust me - I've paid close attention to the way the man works. If a scene calls for a lo-fi old-style movie technique to get the shot he wants, he'll use it. If he needs bleeding-edge digital effects to achieve the shot, he'll use that. It's not the tools he uses that matters to him, it's how things work best for the scene he's creating. AND, in regards to Avatar being "out there," I really don't get that sense. People keep saying it's "Dances With Wolves in Space." I don't think it'll be too obscure for the masses. Lastly: Thanks for keeping the discussion civil. I hate the childish crap people resort to in Talkbacks when they hear different opinions.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Titanic is Jims worst film, yes worse than pirana 2

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    But thats because its a fucking drippy period romance, that is not what Cameron does well. I'm positive Avatar will be a return to form. I mean Jim on an "off" day results in the abyss which personally i fucking loved. Avatar is going to worth the wait. This is Cameron guys he wont let us down like Lucas.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Loved Terminator when I was a child

    by Nabster

    But now the acting is far too flat and the writing is your typical sci fi fantasy fare, and ofcourse the effects are hard to take seriously, although that aspect is understandable consdering when it came out. Not to mention the story was ripped of from a Harlin Ellison short story I believe, which was converted to a twight light zone episode, infact Cameron was sued over this. So I have a difficult time giving much credit to Cameron over stolen stories.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:25 a.m. CST

    I wasn't amazed when I read the treatment

    by misnomer

    the whole "environment" theme was a bit...well...too forced off a message, but some of the monsters sounded cool...especially the creature with an arrow for a head that it fires. Really what's going to make this movie is the visuals...and I'm sure it'll be a treat. I just don't know what the tones going to be...when I read the treatment I couldnt help but think of the Final Fantasy games.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:26 a.m. CST

    Funny...

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    ...the whole time I was typing that tome above, you guys ran a discussion that made my post both irrelevant and prescient at the same time.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Sounds like he's making this his T3/4

    by performingmonkey

    The Sam Worthington character sounds like John Connor. A young guy who has to have these 'greeeat military leeeader' (said in Edward Furlong's voice) qualities which make men follow him into battle against crazy odds. This is going to be the equivalent of 'what if Cameron made T4?' and we all know how much the fanboys would love that. I say good luck to him with this and Battle Angel. If he can come close to his sci-fi flick heyday I, for one, will be most pleased.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Aww, Dredd!

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Cameron was "off" on the Abyss?? That was totally A-game! It was pure Cameron! (Were you referring to the romantic aspect? I didn't think the movie suffered that bad from it.)

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Lightstormer

    by Nabster

    I don't agree that his strength lies in his ability to tell great stories. The actual story to Aliens, T2, and Titanic are fairly bad actually. The premise for T1 was great, however, it was ripped off from another sci fi writer, the story for T2 was basically a rehash , and excuse to display great new effects thats all. Aliens was simply one long action adventure film, certainly not one of the great sci fi stories, but the effects and action were great. Thats what made these movies, thats for sure, the action and effects, cetainly not the acting.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Terminator still holds up...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    And its not nostalgia. I fucking hate people who moan about old effects, its called suspension of believe guys. I suppose you think Jason and the Argonauts sucks because the skeletons don't have motion blur. Oh and Metropolis yeah that film is soooo lame the effects are like totally gay maaaaaaaan.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:32 a.m. CST

    LlGHTST0RMER

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    With regards to the Abyss I'm just referring to the generally received opinion, I love that movie man.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Misnomer

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Perhaps you weren't "amazed," but I'm Cameron's bitch. I was probably looking for things to be awed by. But I was awed! Plus, I was just floored by the way Jim would take ideas from the natural world and apply them to the ecology of the world he was creating for the story. I mean I know there probably aren't any creatures on Earth whose heads shoot from and reattach to their bodies, but I know it's from his research and his love for science that he found some animal somewhere that had a quality that inspired him to come up with such an idea.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Acting....

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Yeah I mean the acting in aliens sucks god know why Sigourny Weaver was nominated for an oscar. Thats sarcasm by the way. That nomination for Aliens was a big deal, they never acknowledge genre films not until LOTR anyway.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:37 a.m. CST

    about Ellison

    by conbarba

    Cameron explained about the thing in i believe an issue of Premiere magazine in the True Lies years. He put the credit on the movie because he wanted to avoid being sued even though he said he did not use any of Ellison material. ABout the rest of discussion, I believe actually Cameron writes pretty well and he is pretty good screenwriter. I remember William Goldman actually saying very very complimmentary things about him somewhere. Still, liking or not the screenplays is perosnal issue. However i strongly disagree about bad acting. Hardly in any Cameron movie except Billy Zane.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:40 a.m. CST

    This could either be really, really great

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    or really, really awful. Either way, it's good to have Mr Cameron back. This guy is far and away the greatest director of action-themed films I've ever seen. Fingers are well and truly crossed here, which I guess will get pretty uncomfortable over the next two and a bit years.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Nab: Agree to disagree?

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Hey, I ain't out to convince you. Just telling you how I feel. (With the exception of Jim's story structure - I'd argue that to the death.) Just curious: What movies stick out in your mind as having great stories - movies that keep you glued to the screen to find out what happens next? Just looking for a frame of reference for what kinds of films really get you going.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Chiming in on the writing issue

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I agree Cameron's writing is one of the things that separates his work from other action films. Aliens, in particular, is an effective film not just because of action and effects, but because he took the time to establish a great group of characters. So many directors try to emulate Cameron, usually by including a lot of steam and flashing yellow lights, but they almost always miss the character stuff. I'm talking to you, Paul W S Anderson.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Should Cameron be given Credit for T1?

    by Nabster

    "While Cameron was doing interviews to publicize The Terminator, he was asked what inspired the storyline, and he frequently mentioned two episodes of the original Outer Limits, "Demon with a Glass Hand" and "Soldier". What Cameron may not have noticed, but science-fiction author Harlan Ellison certainly did, was that Ellison had written both those episodes -- and their disparate plotlines, merged together, had a hell of a lot in common with the story Cameron had written. Ellison sued, and the case was quickly settled for an undisclosed amount and an amended "acknowledgement to the works of Harlan Ellison" in the movie's credits." http://www.nndb.com/people/385/000025310/

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Conbarba - The acknowledgemnet to Ellison

    by Nabster

    Was only put in after he was sued, not before, if that is what Cameron claims then he is telling a white-faced lie.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Damn right he should get credit

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    A little inspiration from elsewhere does not undo any good work you've produced - Shakespeare did it all the time. And, no, I'm not comparing Cameron to Shakespeare. The Terminator works because of its characters and its sense of pace, not just because it has a cute concept.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Dredd & Conbaraba:

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Dredd: Gotcha on the Abyss misunderstanding. And thanks for the Oscar mention for Aliens. I forgot about that, actually. *** ConB: I was gonna mention that Premiere article, in re: the Ellison debate. I agree with Jim, too; tons of SF writers covered cyborgs and time-travel. Why should Ellison's work be singled out as the "origin" for Terminator? And the studio agreed, but said if it went to court, they'd make Jim fight the fight on his own. And I also remember the issue of Premiere (circa the 1998 Oscars) when William Goldman said Titanic was hands-down the best screenplay of the year, that no other script deserved to win but that one, and it wasn't even nominated. And yeah, Billy Zane brought a whole new level of hamfistedness to the film, that's for sure.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:54 a.m. CST

    well

    by conbarba

    i dont know. Actualy both guys can be quite a prick. I dont really believe any of them 100%

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:55 a.m. CST

    "Watch out Summer 2009"

    by triplefive

    "...don’t plan your big summer movie on Memorial day" translation: "i'm the shit."

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Hmmmm

    by Kawaii

    Kiss ass. lol. How can you look forward to a film when there has been zero info on it? Thats stupid...plus 2008? Could still be shit.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:59 a.m. CST

    No Conbaraba

    by Nabster

    Ellison sued Cameron, and Ellison won, this is a fact, no one knows how much Cameron had to pay Ellison but pay he did, and at the end of the movie a previously non existant acnknowledgement to Ellison was inserted, this is simple fact.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:01 a.m. CST

    yes

    by conbarba

    i never said it is not a fact. i know very well. But i also believe Cameron is the man behind terminator, both movie and story. Not Ellison. I was not denying reality, i was denying that Ellison had any real merit about the story.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:04 a.m. CST

    "The Terminator works

    by Nabster

    "The Terminator works because of its characters and its sense of pace" You are funny. If you think its characters not its high concept sci fi story or effects were its main selling points, well lets just say you are very wrong.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Nabster

    by conbarba

    maybe the sci fi story or fx sold the movie, but the characters carry the whole thing and made of it a classic and hard to forget, that is my opinion. Many films have both sci fi story and fx, but nobody to give a fuck for.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:07 a.m. CST

    How can you deny Ellison had any real merit

    by Nabster

    when Cameron himself admits that both those stories were inspirations for the Teriminator?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Harry! ask him about THE CHRONICLES OF SARAH CONNOR!!!

    by Sagan

    we need to hear what he think of that!!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Inspiration

    by conbarba

    I admit, of course. But just as many other people gets inspiration from Aliens or even Terminator itself there are hardly any sueing around. I read the Avatar script leaked a few years ago and i found ideas from many other places including Miyazaki or even Cameron himself. It does not mean he ripped off any of those. And i dont think is "sueable". Same thing i think about Terminator.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Interesting source you found, Nabs.

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Never heard of NNDB before. I like their story with the headline, "Daryl Hannah narrowly escaped being sold into sex slavery." And their article on Cameron is fair in parts, but WAY biased. PS: I didn't know Linda Hamilton left Jim "for another woman." I though it was because he was shacking up with Suzy Amis.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:20 a.m. CST

    The Abyss

    by kwisatzhaderach

    is Cameron's best movie. Just demented how ambitious that film is. Ed Harris' performance is sensational and there are some powerhouse scenes in the film. If Avatar is half as good as The Abyss we're in for a treat. Oh and yes Cameron deserves credit for the Terminator. Sheesh.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:22 a.m. CST

    James Cameron Pitches "Avatar"

    by Ricky Henderson

    "So, uh, there's this planet, right? And this planet is full of MAN-CATS. And the audience will be able to phsycially feel the MAN-CATS' fur. I've spent the last 10 years in exile in the Alps inventing a totally new form of movie technology that will make this possible. The visual caliber will be up to the highest level. Purely photorealistic. Oh yeah, and Linda Hamilton will be giving me lap dances and allowing me to grope her during the primary shoot of MAN-CATS. It's in her contract."

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:33 a.m. CST

    ABking I love you man.

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    That true lies pitch is the funniest fucking thing I've read in a long time.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:38 a.m. CST

    DP for AVATAR

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Let's hope Russell Carpenter isn't picked by Cameron, he'a pretty bland cinematographer. Get Mikael Salomon to do it, his photography on The Abyss was a beautiful thing to behold.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:41 a.m. CST

    When will we get Part 2 Harry?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Let's hope those Malibu fires didn't take out Iron Jim. I hear Shyamalan was spotted in the area.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:46 a.m. CST

    All is well and great for Cameron, I mean.. whats 14

    by white owl

    months to him, right? We only have to wait for this project day by day while working shitty jobs and living shitty lives and this is just gonna turn into a giant TITAN AE CGI-fest.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST

    now what I've got that outta my system... I LOVE U JIM

    by white owl

    YOU MADE MY FAVORITE MOVIE WITH A GOVERNOR IN IT

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:49 a.m. CST

    DP...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Personally I'm hoping for triple. Erm yeah, what's Adam Greenberg doing these days? Possibly queuing for soup since collateral damage I guess. Cant wait for part two to this interview.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Selling points?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Who gives a monkey's about selling points? I'm talking about what makes The Terminator a great film to watch that still stands up today. What makes it great are the characters (two of whom you're scared for, one of whom you're scared of) and the pace at which it moves. Regardless of genre trappings, that film is a great, fast moving thriller. Harlan Ellison had nothing to do with that.<p>Oh, wait. I just realised you're a troll. Sorry about that, mate. Carry on.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    We need to hear what he think of that.

    by Azlam Orlandu

    Gangsta! Buncha retards.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8 a.m. CST

    I must need more sleep . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . because I'm dragging ass and seem to have been reading too much Titanic praise and Terminator bashing. It's like people are going crazy around here. Must need more sleep. Fucking Choke-eyes.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Judge Dredd's Dirty undies

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Adam Greenberg shot Snakes on a Plane...he must be pretty old now though!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:06 a.m. CST

    If I ever make a science-fiction movie it will be all

    by white owl

    science-ey and less fiction-ey. Like a rogue black hole forming nearby the orbits of our planets around the Sun. But once it appears, scientists won't be able to identify it until it's too late, in which this case when outer-planetary orbits begin to sway towards empty space. After the discovery of this rogue black hole scientists will go on for years theorizing and shit but all will be in vain because the BH is misunderstood, and sooner than later it begins to grow faster than ever, swallowing planets, meteors and stars alike. It'll be as if the universe is folding in on itself. The ultimate wordly ending. After the discovery of an increased growth rate it will be realized that the BH now threatens the very existence of planet Earth and there is nothing we can do about it but wait for it to swallow us whole. So there is mass panic and hysteria and such. And then in the climax we can see in our sky the black hole itself, with our atmosphere swirling around it. Now I dunno if this is at all scientifically or physically possible but it would be bad ass to see everything on Earth just turn to nothing in a flash. Screen turns black. Then we cut to some aliens toking on a waterless bong, right? Then one of the alien tokers hits it pretty hard and sucks through some ash. He's like "aw man that sucks" and swipes the shit off his lips and flings it onto the floor, where we follow the shit to the floor. Turns out the aliens were smoking the universe. Whoa. BONGATAR - as directed by Tommy Chong, with specialdirected surprise ending by M. Night Shlingshlong.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST

    So it's something based on a Japanese game?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Or a comic book, or a cartoon? Or... what, as if I cared. Anyway, it's interesting to see that Night Shlongadongnotverylong has found a new niche: instead of shitting out pathetic "twist" endings, he'll do what the VHS distributors of the late 80s did: release his shit films under the titles of good/big ones! Who would've seen this coming? What a TWIST!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Snakes on a Plane?

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Jesus that's depressing what did the poor bastard do to deserve that!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:19 a.m. CST

    hey, I have no problem with...

    by streakerfreak1983

    Personaly I have no hate for Titanic. I do not love it, but I can't hate it. My favorite Cameron film is The Abyss. I can't imagine how difficult it must have been to film that. As for his worst project that would go to Aliens of the Deep which was one of the worst "documentaries" I have ever seen. My fiancé is a Marine scientist and I have gotten sucked into that world too, as we watched we just sat back and laughed. What scientist says "that's the bomb"? What a fucking joke that was. Thank god he is getting back to real films. Wouldn't it be really sad though if this film was just horrible?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:31 a.m. CST

    hey lightstormer and ab king, lemme help yas out...

    by Deus Vult

    I learned from my man sledge hammer that you can add a space, or paragraph break, in your post using a simple html script like this: < p > but take out the spaces before and after the p so it should read, sans quotes "<p>" literally--this will break up your post and make it more easy and inticing to read!<p>taint easy to make it inticing and easy to read with this crowd, trust me!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:32 a.m. CST

    ooooh no...

    by Deus Vult

    looks like my brilliance is once again in question, I tried to illustrate the break code and cancel the html but was foiled...I give up trying to help people! moving on...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Judge Dredd's Dirty Undies

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I agree! Having said that the photography was pretty good. Shame the rest of the movie stank though! I love Greenberg's blue/night photography in The Terminator, Near Dark, Alien Nation and T2.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:39 a.m. CST

    kwisathaderach

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Yeah Greenberg's work on T2 is truly beautiful.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:58 a.m. CST

    I can't wait for, "UNTITLED MALIBU FIRE THRILLER,"

    by Pound Sand

    ..., such a huge fan.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:01 a.m. CST

    check out this mo-cap company

    by quentintarantado

    I bet Cameron heard of these guys. Will he be using them? http://www.image-metrics.com/ If not, I hope Headgeek might be interested and he'd tell Cameron about them. I think their tech is interesting.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:02 a.m. CST

    The best special effects film ever was Forest Gump

    by BendersShinyAss

    seemless in 1995... and today still hasn't been matched. A Close second on photorealistic visual effects is starship troopers. And i still believe that episode 1 was the only photorealistic CG star wars prequel. for shame actually. Not that episode 2 or 3 weren't fantastic in their effects, but you knew what was real and what wasn't. thats a failure for a film. a big film anyways...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Lightstormer - That Daryl Hannah story

    by Nabster

    "Never heard of NNDB before. I like their story with the headline, "Daryl Hannah narrowly escaped being sold into sex slavery." That actually happened, Daryl Hannah was almost forced into prostitution in Las Vegas many, many years ago only to escape through the bathroom mirror, or so she claims, the story has been picked up by various media organizations and was reported on IMDB as well, so its no discredit to the site. The site was not biased agaisnt Cameron at all, its simply reporting the facts man. I dont mean to be obnoxious about this, its just I feel the best part of T1 was the story, and at the very least we have to acknowledge the truth of what happened. Is Cameron a great film-maker, yes, T2, and the directors cut of the Abyss were great, although the original cut of Abyss was quite a bit worse than the directors cut. Well this movie sure is damned ambitious of Cameron, and thats always admirable, although I really do question this movies boxoffice viablity, regardless sci fi fans should get an interesting movie at the very least.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Cameron

    by thefreeagents

    He won't let us down. He hasnt made a movie I havent liked yet. Even Titanic, with the sappy love story was great imo. Been in love with Kate Winslet ever since.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    THE HALO MOVIE

    by DynamixRo

    It would have been really interesting if that had received a green light as well. In terms of budget and risk factor, both projects are pretty similar. But I guess Peter Jackson is no James Cameron, especially after the dud that was King Kong.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:12 a.m. CST

    I want to be ...

    by forgo10en

    ... amazed as much as when I saw Aliens, Abyss and Terminator movies for the first time. No, let's make it 12 times more cause that's how long - 12 years - he was at the beach drinking pinacolada and watching naked chicks. You left us and we were tortured by Alien Vs' Predator and Resident Evil movies. Cameron should watch these too and experience the pain, dissapointment and rage!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:17 a.m. CST

    This being James cameron

    by emeraldboy

    2009 is abest tentative. 2015 is a more accurate date for when this film will be released or 2050.......

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Sliding into PRE on Battle Angel

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Damn, that's a bold statement! Who woulda thunk that Mrs. Cameron would let Jim get it on with other ladies!??!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Cameron is god because he FIGHTS FIRES

    by Doctor_Sin

    Lucas has some underpaid lackeys in wet Boba Fett t-shirts stand in the fire's way until Lucas can be secreted away to his mountain lair. Not Cameron. He faces those firey fuckers down with a garden hose, buck naked. He's Da Man.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:19 a.m. CST

    kwisatz and Judge--what the hell are you 2 smoking?

    by moondoggy2u

    No way on G-d's green earth does Avatar need that shaky camera. I swear to the almighty here and now, if I see so much as the slightest hint of handcam, I'm gonna butcher one of you SOBs with one of my mad dog pigsticker and film it all with a STEADY FUCKING CAMERA, too!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:19 a.m. CST

    lightstormer... that was beautiful

    by BendersShinyAss

    always knew you were a cameron fan... now i truely see why. you've shown me the light too. I am as excited and hopeful about this film as you.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Camerons does have weak points

    by BendersShinyAss

    He's not very good with scoring his films. i don't care how good Fidel or Horner can be, they are nothing without good direction. James Horner really took control of Titanic, and thats not necc a good thing, because the man can loose sight of his own mystical abilities if left to his own ears alone. I think a composer like James Newton Howard is fit for the biggest sci-fi film ever made. Don't believe me, go listen to Atlantis, Unbreakable, King Kong and dare I say Waterworld.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I cant believe hollywood...

    by emeraldboy

    Giving 200 million to man who hasnt made a proper film in 10 years is unbelievable. I have seen all of his movies. As an action director he is second to none. funnily enough having seen the alien directors cut, I agree with Cameron that the nest sequence is awful and awfully long. Like zemeckis cameron is envelop pusher in terms of effects and I expect that the effects in Avatar will be mindblowing. the summer movie season has felt his absence for far too long. but and this is a warning. I remember that we all pined for the return of QT after his absence and all we got was the mixed bag called Kill Bill. Iam just adding that note of caution.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST

    moondoggy2u

    by kwisatzhaderach

    what are you smoking? Where did I say I wanted shakycam on AVATAR? I hate it!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Abyss - have to agree - the best!

    by kinghenryVIII

    I love Aliens, True Lies, T2. Hell, even the things he was producer on, like the kitchen sink that was Strange Days (that movie had EVERYTHING in it), but story, characters, FX, tension, thrills .... tha tmovie rocks. I love the Spec. Edition that out with the extra - what - 20 + minutes - makes it a MUCH better movie. Love it all but this is my favorite! 2009 is too far away but he's taking his time and getting it right. Avitar will be a mind blowing experience. I.CAN. NOT. WAIT.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:39 a.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Not really unbelievable. This is the guy that made The Terminator, Aliens, the Abyss, T2, True Lies and the highest grossing movie in history with 11 Oscar wins. He's also spent the last 10 years investigating and forwarding the development of the cutting edge of digital technology. If anybody is going to be given $200 million it's Jimbo.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST

    And the Aliens Spec Edition rocked too

    by kinghenryVIII

    I DOG all the added footage. It makes the great stories even better. And for the score .... Aliens had one of the best ever. The fight when Paxton dies - pumpin' man!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:43 a.m. CST

    I menat DIG

    by kinghenryVIII

    sorry

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:44 a.m. CST

    I ment, ment.

    by kinghenryVIII

    Sorry again. Leaving now.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST

    kinghenryVIII

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Amen to that. Watching The Abyss in the cinema aged 15 was an experience never to be forgotten. I'll never forgive my local cinema moving it to screen 2 after a few days to let Shirley Valentine into screen 1. It's a crazy world.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST

    The abyss wasn't his best. just my oppinion

    by BendersShinyAss

    it was long and qhilw i don't mind that, nor do i mind the complete 180 in the story at the end... i think the extended cut is pure gold and i can't watch the shorter original anymore as a result... but both films suffer from a wickedly bad ending. <p> "We should be dead" "They must have did something to us" "ah ha" "hahahaha" "hah" "a a a a a a a a a a" "hah" .... <p> sorry, it bring everything to a crashing holt for me. i just don't understand the reason for the underwater city to surface.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:59 a.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It surfaces to rescue the Deepcore crew who were running out of air.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:04 a.m. CST

    The crucial question for me is...

    by Ghostball

    will the aliens actually look any good, or are we basically just talking about those humanoid Close Encounters goons at the end of AI? I want to be excited about this, but JC's had this joint in his oven for about fifty million years. Still no leaked photos? No concept art? Sure, he doesn't want to give the game away yet, but I don't give a flying fig about emotional content or how much an images POPS OUT at me in a JC film - I want the DESIGNS and the ACTION to rock harder than Jenna Jameson's bed on her wedding night. I swear, if his creatures end up looking like those munchkins in ID4 or WOTW, I'm gonna be watching on Battle Angel Alita on a grainy piece of shit pirate DVD. You hear Jim? We wants ALIENS, not not dumbass HUMANIENS! Hire Rambaldi or Giger, not the goddam guys who worked on Star Trek: The Undiscoverd Country!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:12 a.m. CST

    great interview

    by Evil Hobbit

    This stuff is why I love this site, up close honest and personal interviews and movie reports. 2009 can't come soon enough! Maybe I will freeze myself for this 2 years, like Cartman for his Wii so that I don't have to wait in the torment of a hype that will follow this press release.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:20 a.m. CST

    The Termintor is a stone cold classic.

    by mr. brownstone

    Like it needs to be said. But with some of the yahoos kicking around in here, I guess it does.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:22 a.m. CST

    The Terminator that is.

    by mr. brownstone

    Need. More. Coffee.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:23 a.m. CST

    But Brownstone

    by conbarba

    The Termintor sounds actually awesome!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:28 a.m. CST

    True Pies.

    by Ghostball

    Mmmmm

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:12 a.m. CST

    What's the matter ABking?

    by TraumReiter

    No offense but to me it seems like your stories are getting dumber over the years. Why haven't you asked Sly if he could play Arnie's lover in TRUE ROMANCE.... oh there's already a movie with that title? I love Arnold's movies but I don't want to hear him speak german because it's far worse then his english!! 2009 can't come soon enough!!! TRUE AVATAR!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Tainted Love

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    The love that dare not speak its name.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:28 a.m. CST

    SINGER VS. CAMERON

    by THE KNIGHT

    Poor Singer... Fox is going up against Singer again with another potential franchise movie.... SINGER VS CAMERON!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:32 a.m. CST

    CAMERON VS SPIELBERG

    by THE KNIGHT

    Wow @ Cameron calling out Spielbeg for memorial day Summer 2009... Doesn't Spielberg have that Sci fi worm hole movie in the works for Summer 2009?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:49 a.m. CST

    JIM, YOU MUST CAST MICHAEL BIEHN!! And about Titanic..

    by moto

    Jim, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE cast Michael Biehn in a pivotal role! Not sure if you had a falling out with him or not, but he NEEDS to be in a James Cameron movie again:) Regarding Titanic, you people have to understand that Cameron was making a throwback movie reflecting the golden age of Hollywood (i.e. Gone With the Wind). In technical terms, the film was a masterpiece. As a movie, it was an excellent throwback to those love story epics of late. It's hard to say, but ANY love story plays off as cheesy, unless you just buy into the concept and role with it. Titanic had so much to it... action, adventure, coming-of-age, romance, swashbuckling (i.e. the submersives storyline), etc. THAT is why it appealed to so many, and THAT is why it is the most successful film of all time (not counting inflation... if it was, you'd see yet another love story amidst action, adventure, etc. in GONE WITH THE WIND).

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Lightstormer

    by misnomer

    Well theres certainly worse directors to worship than Cameron. The only reason I hold him in any regard is for "The Terminator" the rest you can keep...but that movie was brutal. Simply the best movie he's ever made, and Titanic - well the B.O speaks for itself. Cheesy or not, "Jack I'm flying!"will be remembered pretty much forever. I just didnt think the treatment for Avatar was particualarly strong...it was kinda run of the mill but with lots of cool creatures and environments. I just hope Cameron has given his script a good working over...because I want this movie to blow my fucking mind.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:51 a.m. CST

    and T2 really doesnt stand up like the first

    by misnomer

    not as good as you remember it. trust me - go watch.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:59 a.m. CST

    misnomer

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Just watched it. Makes the blockbusters of today seems stunted and childish. The canal chase is a blockbuster setpiece of the highest order. Check out Cameron's pacing and choice of shots - the guy is a real filmmaker.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Isn't TF2 coming out in 2009?

    by S-Mart shopper

    movie.go.com said 2&3 are in talks

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Abyss is my favorite Cameron movie.

    by rbatty024

    He creates an absolutely original world. Good to see he's finally getting back into the game.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:18 p.m. CST

    The sinking of Titanic is one of the greatest scenes

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    ever filmed. Dont care what any of you say, the sinking of the boat was truely amazing. Still havent seen anything too similar to that. <p> I would love to see Camerons 9/11 movie. That would blow your mind. <p> PS> T2 still totally rocks! Are you smoking crack?

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:23 p.m. CST

    James Cameron actually started the fire, and is now

    by Quin the Eskimo

    just establishing an alibi

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Time to score a big payday

    by Quin the Eskimo

    for my boy Vinnie Chase! Also, of course FOX will give him the money. They have made an assload of cash through him

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Lightstormer

    by Saluki

    Maybe my favorite talkbacker! Cameron is my #1. Not having him do direct a major feature in a dozen years is like losing a good friend.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:39 p.m. CST

    "I know now why you cry"

    by comedian_x

    Because I wanted him to do Battle Angel first -- now I have to wait 4 years for it.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Respect HARRY'S...Cameron please answer this?

    by ABking

    To the moron that told Harry to hang up and Cameron the next time he calls...why wouldn't Harry, Moriarty or anyone at AICN take calls from Hollywood BIG SHOTS like CAMERON or STALLONE! Some of you guys are a bunch of jealous IDIOTS!!! Ofcourse I can go on about this but think about it, Harry is the one running a major successful website, not you assholes. Ok, next... M. NIGHT better be smart and not try to go up against IRON JIM CAMERON with his AVATAR project. Case closed indeed. By the way, if Mr. Cameron is reading these talkbacks or even his business associates, please answer a question for me. Is there a role written in AVATAR (sequels to Avatar) or BATTLE ANGEL ALITA for his great friend Governor SCHWARZENEGGER? I really want Harry to ask and Cameron to answer! Oh, my TRUE LIES TRILOGY idea is great:)

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Question on ALIEN 5 but not TERMINATOR 4 or T5?

    by ABking

    Here would be a great question for Jim...How is it Cameron would have done a ALIEN 5 sequel but not TERMINATOR 3, 4, 5 ect??? Two other filmmakers did the last two ALIEN films but Jim would do a 5th. It always bugged me. Why not produce some more TERMINATOR films with LIGHTSTORM ENTERTAINMENT and work with ARNOLD again.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Col. Tigh-Fighter

    by just pillow talk

    I agree that the sinking was pretty freak'n great, but the movie up to that point was painful for me to watch. I can't stand that movie, just one of those things. T2 is still a very fine movie, and I'm not sure what anyone is seeing when they say it doesn't hold up. The action is there, Arnold is Arnold, but as the 'protector' rather than the 'terminator'. And shit, like 3 1/2 yrs until this...long time.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Summer 2009 films....

    by amrisharmpit

    The only other release I've heard mentioned for summer '09 is the Superman Returns sequel (possibly to be called The Man of Steel).

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:38 p.m. CST

    If Cameron isn't too busy he should try saving...

    by rbatty024

    the Alien franchise. Three crappy movies in a row is a real shame. C'mon Cameron, produce another Alien or Alien v. Predator movie for some up and coming protoge. Save the legacy.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    ford turns down new starwars FUCKER

    by skiff

    break my fucking heart ford turns down starwars to do indy . Indy is cool but its no starwars freak me fuckingf out. It is a dark day

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    You Heard The Man

    by RowanM

    and you know the drill! Assholes and elbows!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Cameron should do a sequel to aliens...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Fuck Alien 3 and that piece of shit resurrection. And the less said about AvP the better.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I would love for Cameron to do AVP 3 or Aliens 5

    by SithMenace

    but I just don't think it'll ever happen. With the exception of T2, he seems like one of those people that does a movie and says "Been there, time to move on to the next challenge". <p>With that said, I'm cautiously optimistic about AVP2. I know that there are untested special effects guys directing the movie (Hello Eragon) but everything said about it so far seems to be the right thing, including going for an R rating AND the fact that they are trying to do as many practical effects as possible, with only necessary CGI. I'm hoping that after the shitfest that was AVP the studio sees the potential and really wants to get it right.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:17 p.m. CST

    "u know the rest"

    by Lando Griffin

    unfortunately we do

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Surprised at the lack of

    by Lando Griffin

    "giggles" and "delicious" in the transcription

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Harlan Ellison

    by Boromir187

    Ellison is a great science fiction. That aside, he's not the greatest person in the world. I have no idea how much those two episodes inspired Cameron in the writing of Terminator and I really don't care. It is extremely hard for me to believe everything that comes out of Harlan's mouth most of the time. The man usually spends over half of his interviews implying that he is the greatest writer in the world and that everyone is always stealing ideas from him. Whether some of his claims are valid or not, all he ever ends up doing is coming off as a egotistical writer who is extremely bitter that he hasn't been as successful as others around him throughout the years, especially when it comes to writing for film.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Cameron & Arnold

    by Boromir187

    I remember reading that part of the reason Cameron decided to go with Avatar first, instead of Battle Angel, is that he wants Arnold for the role of Dr. Ido in the Battle Angel film.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST

    MALIBU FIRES GOTTA EAT

    by dregmobile

    sorry. just wanted to try this on.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Isn't it time for Harlan Ellison to sue someone again?

    by Doctor_Sin

    Since everyone has ripped him off and defiled all of his genius and no one has ever properly handled his material, blah blah blah...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Paul WS Anderson gotta eat!

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Two brilliant franchise and crap them out as the foulest smelling stool of a film that is possible. I don't think either series will ever recover from Anderson's TAINT.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 3:35 p.m. CST

    DAMMIT

    by THE KNIGHT

    He calls out Spielberg and nobody mentions this! Twats... Steven will be back with his Sci Fi film in Summer 2009 as well...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I have great hopes for this.

    by jmyoung666

    Also, neither Titanic nor True Lies were good. James Cameron has put out some great stuff, but he has turned out some mediocre fare as well. While Titanic may be a technical marvel, the storyline was hacky and the dialog was atrocious. Trues lies seemed like a parody of big-budget action films (if it was intended that way, it failed to achieve the ironic distance it should have had.) An unfunny parody at that.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 3:55 p.m. CST

    This is so cool

    by quadrupletree

    I hope the effects are as good as I imagine them from reading the scripment!! Kick ass James Cameron! Do it for us all!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Harry,

    by mrfan

    Great interview. I really like it when you provide it word for word.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:33 p.m. CST

    How come Jurassic Park still looks better than 90% of

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    ...new films today? It's like things haven't improved, or something.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST

    AVP was such a huge disappointment.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    I was so looking forward to it but was so disappointed. The fact that they called it "AVP" to begin with, and the fact that it was PG13, should have been clear warnings. I hated those Predators.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Are we gonna see Sarah Conner's.....

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    ......taint????????????

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Dated special effects are hard to ignore.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    T2's special effects still hold up. T1's don't. And to the guy who asks us to ignore the dated effects and simply "suspend belief", it's easier said than done. Both Terminators are great but the dated special effects of the first one really hurt it these days, especially for newer viewers.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Gibson USA...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Personally I think T1's effects hold up fine even the stop motion which I think has an unsettling otherworldly look. For me people who complain about dated effects are on the same level as those who cant watch something because "it's in black and white" or has subtitles.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Let me get this straight...

    by idahomer

    He is going to create photorealistic rendering of a world that DOESN'T EXIST?<p> Jim to Computer Guy: That weapon doesn't look real. And those plants look made up.<p> Computer Guy: It's not real and the plants are made up.<p> Jim: Damnit. We're using Photorealism here. I don't care if it takes $300 million.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:11 p.m. CST

    My reaction=same as Moriarty's

    by Rindain

    I'm hard for this film through 2009. Nothing else comes closes in terms of anticipation, other than Battle Angel.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Jimmy C. says:

    by ewokstew

    "And most of these young guys, they’re either physical, meaning that they’re like buff handsome guys who are pretty good actors; or they have a kind of vulnerability that they can reach, but very few of them know how to stand up and be a man." Ouch.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:32 p.m. CST

    WHAT ABOUT ALIENS??

    by moto

    Nobody is really talking about Cameron's Aliens, especially the person who said they love Termintors but we can have the rest. Aliens is by far Cameron's greatest sci-fi... even better than T1 and T2, which I love. Aliens is one film that stands the test of time, especially effects-wise. It is easily the best sci-fi action movie ever made. Name one that tops it. If that film were released today, with the same effects made in the mid-80s, it would rule the box office. That is why I would have loved to see Cameron's SPIDER-MAN. There would be about 80% less CG compared to Raimi, i.e. it would look more like a kickass action flick than a cartoon.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Harry - ASK JC ABOUT HIS ALIEN 5 SCRIPT!

    by Tubbs Tattsyrup

    I really want to know what that was like, before they told him they were doing AVP. For the record, I rank my JC films thusly: Abyss, T2, Aliens, True Lies, T1, Titanic. Cameron is the greatest action director of ALL TIME. YAH! My film lecturer thinks he's a "dumbass" but he clearly will get his comeuppance come 2009. As for calling Spielberg out...bring it on! Could be even more of a deathmatch than summer '07 (Shrek vs Pirates vs Spidey). Maybe not. But it will be to me: Spielberg vs Cameron!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:41 p.m. CST

    skiff

    by Quin the Eskimo

    What in the sphincter of hell are you talkin' bout.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:53 p.m. CST

    why on earth do people...

    by beamish13

    still want to live in Malibu? There's always a damn mudslide, fire, earthquake, or flood. There's tons of nice estates here that aren't nearly as suceptible to danger as homes in Malibu.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:51 p.m. CST

    I like Cameron using the phrase "assholes & elbows."

    by CreasyBear

    Reminds me of Sergeant Apone. "Look into my eye!"

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by Nabster

    Yes its good to dispute semantics when you end up saying stupid things. The dispute is not if T1 is good or not but what is good about it, you say its the characters and "pacing". Thats just downright stupidity, its the scifi story and effects that made the film. The other smart move was casting Arnie whose acting was so robotic, he actually played a robot, not much subtelty though. Guess there is not point in trying to correct an obvious idiot, carry on mate.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Tubbs, is this guy's class any good?

    by ewokstew

    Okay, let's break this down: This guy is a film lecturer. Cameron is a filmmaker. A successful, talented, envelope pushing, great story-telling filmmaker who's achieved a level of success that few will ever attain. My answer to that lecturer is an oldie but a goodie. Those who can't, teach. "Dumbass", indeed.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Speaking of films that don't date much.

    by ewokstew

    Quite a bit of Ridley Scott's ALIEN looks pretty "today" in a lot of regards. Possibly due to the cinematography and lighting. Star Wars is only a couple of years older and it looks horribly dated next to Alien.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:27 p.m. CST

    OH SHITS

    by LittleDudes

    JIM GOT EATED BY THE FIRE

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I'm going to forget about this for a while

    by DOGSOUP

    Because if I don't I'll go ape shit. I'll get excited around July 2008. Until then ....

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:55 p.m. CST

    I'll never get why people hate True Lies

    by Lovecraftfan

    I'm really quite mystified by that. It has great laughs, great story, and a wonderful sense of pace to it.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 6:59 p.m. CST

    RIP dorothy's taint

    by Deus Vult

    Well boys in scanning the most recent posts on the most recent stories it saddens me to say that no one has used any version of taint in hours.<p> Apparently then dorothy's taint is now officially dead as the lastest AICN catchphrase <p> I've been reading this site for six years and never before have I seen a catchphrase set the world on fire so fast, and burn out just as quickly <p> oh my dear dorothy's taint, we hardly knew ye...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:14 p.m. CST

    MEGATRON

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Here is more meat for you TransFans: http://tinyurl.com/toofo

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Sci Fi Story and Effects

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    To say these things are what "made" Terminator is ridiculous. The effects are shit, and the sci-fi aspect accounts for about 10% of the story. I agree with whoever said it was the pacing.<p>I just tried to make a paragraph. It looks fucking awesome. BTW Cameron is beign seriously over-rated here.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Sci Fi Story and Effects

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    To say these things are what "made" Terminator is ridiculous. The effects are shit, and the sci-fi aspect accounts for about 10% of the story. I agree with whoever said it was the pacing.<p>I just tried to make a paragraph. It looks fucking awesome. BTW Cameron is being seriously over-rated here.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Double post

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Sorry about that. But my<p>paragraph mojo is working. Ah the lord giveth and the lord taketh away. <p>After Terminator, the only original movie Cameron did that was truly solid was The Abyss and that did have a lame ending. Titanic is corny, True Lies is a mixed bag, Aliens and T2 are sequels.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Aliens and T2 are sequels.

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Yes. Well done.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Dorothy's taint reeked of death

    by S-Mart shopper

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Deus Vult....

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    I made two tainted posts in this very talkback. Taint lives!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:37 p.m. CST

    I love True Lies

    by QuinnTheEskimo

    That fucking scene at the end with the jet is amazing. I remember I saw it on TV a while back and I coudldn't believe how good that scene looked. That's just a fun fucking film.<p>But no amount of alliteration is as funny as TAINT.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:12 p.m. CST

    QUESTION FOR MR. CAMERON

    by The Heathen

    Will any of his regular actors he's used before like Bill Paxton, Jenette Goldstein, Michael Biehn, etc. be considered for any parts in AVATAR? <br> <br> Thanks so much and if this has already been asked, sorry, didn't have time to read the whole TB. <br> <br> Heh, "assholes and elbows." That's awesome if he really said that. Apone rocked.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus = The Predator's face in AVP

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    In every Predator movie the moment when the Predator takes off his mask is intense. But in AVP he looked like a freakin' muppet!! How disappointing! I hope AVP2 fixes this....and no Predators teaming up with stupid girls either....

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    WHAT'S THIS? TAINT MANIA LIVES?

    by Deus Vult

    by dorothy its up to guys like judge dredd and s mart shopper to keep hope alive, KEEP HOPE ALIVE!<p>oh and Quinn--my sarcasm alert is off the charts after reading your post. remember, it's not the word TAINT that's funny, it's that it's the latest in AICN's awesome run of hot new catchphrases. see the wizard of oz story from yesterday for the full background on the history of why taint is an actual fact really funny.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Megatron gives the Full Monty http://tinyurl.com/ymbjo7

    by all your base

    check it out

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Ewokstew

    by Tubbs Tattsyrup

    Actually, dude's a practicing DOP with a couple hundred music videos and short films, lots of TV stuff, and at couple (indie) features to his name, and as a director won a few awards for a film he did INSTEAD of working on Lord of the Rings (this is in NZ). It's just that his attitude to Cameron is fucked. up.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 11:34 p.m. CST

    About Aliens

    by major_tom_aint_dead

    Everybody´s got an opinion, but my favorite Cameron movie is "Aliens", wich I watch once a year at the very least. It´s his masterpiece with great actors, great script and has the best pre CGI FX ever, wich to this day are so fucking cool. When something FX landen comes out, you shouldnt compare it to a CGI fest, you compare it to "Aliens", and maybe, the original "Return of the Jedi". The proof? LOTR in the cinema was really amazing, but in DVD and cable, on any good quality screen, you can keep good track of whats CGI and whats not. Thats something they havent come up with yet: credible CGI post theather experience. Considering that, "Aliens" hasnt been beaten yet.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Thank god its not gonna be like STAR TREK!!

    by De genX

    Of all the space sci fis i hate star trek the most .thank davy jones, that cameron is not gonna make it like that!!! hope he doesnt over produce it.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Tubbs

    by ewokstew

    Seems like he's done some groundwork. Yeah, guess you need credentials to teach. Still, there's seems to be some curious snobbery going on. Perhaps it's because Cameron's a genre guy? They never get any love.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Oh, Nabster

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Why must you rile me so?<p>It's first thing in the morning, I'm having my hot, delicious tea and contemplating another boring day, and there you are calling me 'downright stupid' for disagreeing with you. Oh, well, this is a talkback. It wouldn't be right if I didn't get some abuse from time to time. I would have expected it when I was defending Fantastic Four, but I'll take it here if I have to.<p>Congratulations on noticing a resemblance between The Terminator and a couple of Harlan Ellison stories. This is not public knowledge at all and you are, I think we can all agree, the smartest guy on the planet for noticing. All of the hard work by Mr Cameron and his team is invalidated by this one single fact, which you alone have the courage the confront. The many film critics who have praised this film for being a lean and efficient thriller are wrong, not to mention the fans of The Terminator who enjoy the characters at the centre of this story. If only you had been around twenty-odd years ago to point out that this film was only successful because it is a sci-fi story with effects in it. We could have saved so much time!<p>You possess a piercing clarity of vision, Nabster, and great fortune awaits you. Thanks for talking.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 4:32 a.m. CST

    If only he made a movie a year

    by DirkD13"

    And got Kathryn Bigelow making badass movies again.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by Nabster

    The only thing I noticed was that was Cameron was successfully sued for copying the plot for the movie that virtually launched his career. Thats all done and dusted though, what were arguing about was another point. However, for some reason you keep subverting our dispute to another area, maybe because you realize how dumb you must come off with some of the things you have said. " The Terminator works because of... its sense of pace." " So many directors try to emulate Cameron, usually by including a lot of steam and flashing yellow lights, but they almost always miss the character stuff." hahaha, retard. P.S. if you dont wanna be called out on your stupidity, maybe you shouldn't devolve to name calling yourself. Carry on mate.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 5:17 a.m. CST

    Nabster

    by conbarba

    You noticed that ok, even though is something everybody knows. But you also say time after time that the only thing that made popular The Terminator was that it was sci fi and with special FX. That is the point of the conversation. The Ellison thing was not the topic anymore. And anyway, you may feel that way, sure. But an enduring film it is so for many more reasons than genre and fx. And if you really deny that Terminator is an enduring film, then i will have to ask you what kind of food do your kind eat in your planet. Maybe in 1984 they sold the movie as a scifi film with special FX (and actually not too much of that on screen anyway) but certainly audiences and critics found much much more. I for sure did. And so have done in the following years the people that since then have discovered the film.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Who cares?

    by Negative Man

    Photorealism means next to crap in movies now-a-days. If anyone ever saw what SQUARE wanted to do with FINAL FANTASY: THE SPIRITS WITHIN, but were forced by SONY to 'animate' it down (basically, dirtying it down like Cameron did to the T-1000 in T2), then we know that Cameron is bringing nothing new to the screen. Just give us a good story with the animation. Heck, bring on 300! Nearly everything there is CGI backgrounds, but it's like a painting. Unless it is something like that, then who cares? Galactus looked awesome strolling through the Skrull homeworld in MARVEL ULTIMATE ALLIANCE, now imagine it with even more powerful computers. The photorealism movement of the late 60's, early 70's is just being brought to screen...not really a big deal. Computers finally caught up to people. Yawn. It all comes down to story.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Last thoughts, Nabster

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    The only name is called you was 'troll', which I stand by. I'm going to end this now, because from the tone of your posts it's obvious you're not half as bright as you think you are and I'm getting no entertainment from this exchange. I feel foolish for arguing with you, like I've just caught myself squabbling with a twelve-year-old over the last ice cream in the freezer, and I blame myself for encouraging you.<p>Take care, Nabster.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 5:39 a.m. CST

    CGI

    by Pandas

    So is it the case that everything on the alien planet will be cgi? Characters, background etc, with no human presence (given that the humans use these avatars)? Or are there human characters too? Just thinking it might be a bit of an expensive Final Fantasy type thing if it's the former.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 5:51 a.m. CST

    The Pecking Order

    by darthbinks1220

    Cameron, Lucas, Spielberg, Jackson

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 7:16 a.m. CST

    DirkD13"

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You said it mate.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Bring it on! --Bring it, James Cameron. Bring it.

    by JDanielP

    Lord, I hope Cameron and his crew are just fine. And just how bad was that fire?!

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Question for JAMES CAMERON

    by RobinG

    Has budget concerns compromised your artistic integrity or direction of the film?

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST

    wish I knew something else relevant to say

    by white owl

    but.... DOROTHY'S TAINT DOROTHY'S TAINT!

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 8:50 a.m. CST

    ACTUALLY I do have a question for Mr. Cameron

    by white owl

    even if it's too late... You should open Avatar two weeks after The Hobbit to steal all its money, right?

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Proman between Avatar and Interstellar

    by Proman1984

    2009 will be a great year for sci-fi! Oh yeah, don't piss on M. Night! He's a greater director than you realize.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Avatar 2009

    by Cobbio

    I'm absolutely looking forward to seeing this. Can't wait.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 9:55 a.m. CST

    2009...

    by Buzzsawlenny

    we'll never see this due to the fact the earth will not be able to sustain human life in 2009...and if it can then our economy will be in shambles due to some natural disaster...or a apocolyptic wasteland...al gore told me so.....Huzzah

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I hope Cameron and his people are OK...

    by Rindain

    Have you heard back from him yet, Harry? Hopefully nobody was hurt and none of Cameron's pre-production material for Avatar or Battle Angel was damaged.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 10:37 a.m. CST

    My J.C. film rankings go:

    by kinghenryVIII

    Abyss - Aliens - True Lies - T2 - T1 - Titanic. Yup, I really dug True Lies. And the Abyss/Aliens thing .... 51/49 split. Both fan-fucking-tastic.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Deus Vult

    by QuinnTheEskimo

    I know. I was there. I wouldn't feel right making taint comments if I hadn't been there.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Long Time Coming

    by moppboy

    I'm glad to see Cameron back in the game. Hopefully the film will live up to the hype it's sure to generate.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Avatar Script?

    by nycguy

    I know this thing was available online forever, and of course now it's gone. Anyone have a mirror of it or know where I can find it? I'd love to get a read. Oh, and Sam Worthington is hot!

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Damn

    by Quin the Eskimo

    you Quinn

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 12:58 p.m. CST

    JC had me at...

    by 9000rpm

    ...tossing a Z06 around like it was his little red wagon. James Cameron is Steve McQueen, Robert Oppenheimer, Charles Dickens and Al Gore co-mingled into one super-being, with all the Al Gore extracted and compressed and cleaned and turned into a salve for the hard to reach spots inside a dog's anus.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Jim, thank you for making Titanic

    by DufusyteII

    I will not divulge how many times I saw that film in the theater, but a large part of the gross came from me.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 3:04 p.m. CST

    cameron's the name star!

    by RAWHEAD RALF

    ...great interview! my instinct is to be internally skeptical and slightly negative cause it's not terminator 4 but that's knee-jerk. the thing is: james cameron ALWAYS delivers. should be awesome...

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Last thoughts Franklin T Marmoset

    by Nabster

    Well yes you should feel like a twelvle year old since you are acting like one, its good of you to notice. And if you don't want to respond, its really easy, just don't, instead of telling us how you are so above it all. And I stand by my claim of calling you stupid. "" So many directors try to emulate Cameron, usually by including a lot of steam and flashing yellow lights," heh, retard.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Avatar = Totally Taint!

    by monorail77

    As Taint is the new Tits, I say Avatar sounds Taint. Maybe even Dorothy's Taint, but we'll have to wait and see...

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Love me some Ellison/ Love me some Cameron

    by shellfishh

    I'm very pleased that Cameron did "Terminator" and I hope Ellison got a little slice of the pie. It's a shame Harlan didn't keep writing.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Avatar will be to Cameron what King Kong was to Jackson

    by acroyear77

    Avatar has a cliched scifi plot with the typical elements: overpopulation, radical climate change, humans vs. primitive aliens, etc. Yawn. Human male travels to exotic alien planet and is at odds with the native aliens. Slowly over time he adapts to their customs and falls in love with one of them. Evil humans come to colonize planet, human male teams up with primitive aliens and fights off the Earth invasion. Human male becomes savior of alien race. The End.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 6:09 p.m. CST

    HARRY GOTTA EAT JAMES CAMERON

    by mraig

    Heh, I'm original

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    JC needs to call back already...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    This is what its going to be like waiting for Avatar except for TWO and a half years.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST

    "One I'm Dying to See"...you mean the cartoon?

    by Drath

    I will not get excited about a Cameron movie until it's made. The animated AVATAR is very good. I suspect this live action movie by Shyamalan won't measure up though because Shyamalan has, I think, lost his way as a filmmaker and because the animated show is telling the story just fine on its own--making me question the need for a live action adaptation, as if animation isn't good enough or something. But anyway, I'm already sick of this popularity contest and the brainless knee-jerk reaction of Aint It Cool News to prefer the Cameron project over the cartoon.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Did Cameron put out the fire by peeing on it?

    by Doctor_Sin

    Because that's the kinda' godlike fucker he is.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 10:43 p.m. CST

    FOX should put up a teaser website at least...

    by Rindain

    "AVATAR" coming summer 2009. And maybe the eye of one of the Na'vi.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Yeah please give us something jim....

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    A piece of concept art or an fx test, anything!

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Shows he's a brilliant storyteller, too

    by Freakemovie

    Just the little things...like the way he wanted a "real man" to play the lead. That's the single biggest reason a movie like Kingdom of Heaven didn't connect -- you combine an incredibly boring main character with the small body of Orlando Bloom and you're just plain not going to have the next Gladiator. Cameron knows how to make classically cool stories that people connect to. The Terminator movies really had the most brilliantly simple sci-fi concept out there for their time. And finally someone is willing to stand up and say that most CGI today is pitifully not photorealistic. If he actually pulls off the photorealistic nature of the aliens and effects, this may be one of the coolest movies ever made.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Freakemovie

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Everything about Kingdom of Heaven was awesome...except you had Bloom at the centre of it with his incredible no acting style. I actually laughed during his 'rousing the troops' scenes at the end. You'd think Scott would know better. But thats probably the only way the movie was greenlit in the beginning sadly.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Aaaaarrrrggghhhhhh

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Cameron knows how to tease doesn't he? Phone Harry Jimbo!

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Saluki and BendersShinyAss...

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Thanks for the kind words, guys. Good to know a few brothers around here got my back. ;-) And to all the CG / SFX enthusiasts in this TB, don't worry. Not only is Jim gonna kill it with the FX on the film, he's going to do it in 3D. Although... I think I can see it all now. We'll all be praising the effects come summer of '09, but when it hits DVD (Or Blu-Ray by then, I guess,) and we'll have to just watch it in regular old 2D, every FX geek and their dog will jump all over it, saying, "Once you can see it all on the screen, it becomes clear just how bad it SUCKS." Mark my words, folks. But hey - at least it gives us all something to love; JC fans get a new movie, SF/Fantasy fans get a new story to talk about, and Special FX critics get something to rip apart and say they could have done it better on their iMac. And all will be right with the world.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 12:53 p.m. CST

    BRING US PART 2 ALREADY YOU CLOWN!

    by Razorback

    Did he died in the fire? Did the man lose his phone number? Someone get JC a new phone.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST

    You can tell Hollywood's been missing Cameron...

    by Optimus Murphy

    ...at least I have. They need him to come back and show everybody else how to do an action and sci-fi. Aliens, Abyss, and T2 still kick the ass of any of the tired CG-infested shit that's plagued the big screen since.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Must have been one helluva fire.

    by ewokstew

    I guess.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Optimus Murphy

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I concur, no sci-fi or action film has even come close to Aliens, Abyss or T2.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 3:33 p.m. CST

    RETURN TO THE PLANET OF THE APES!!

    by football

    Am I the only Cameron fan out there that would still like to see his vision of the Apes saga? Surely you can still get your project off the ground as did Nolan with Batman Begins and erase that awful taste from our mouths that was Burton's piece of shite. How about you shift the story to slightly before Chuck Heston's landing and have the next crew divert the end of the planet by defusing the doomsday bomb? You could use some of that photot-realism and mix in a young Chuck Heston while you're at it, Jim. Now I'd pay good money to see that movie!! Anyway, I'm looking foward to you raising the bar with this gap-filler but please ease off on some of that wrought cheesy dialogue. God, that scene where Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio talks to a descending Ed Harris still gives me the bends thinking about it!!

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Part 2, pretty please?

    by Rindain

    Must....feed....Cameron....addiction.....

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 3:40 p.m. CST

    New JC interview at TIME

    by Adam B

    http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1576622,00.html

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Adam B

    by ewokstew

    The link doesn't seem to work. Cool thing is though, you can look through Time magazine's archives for free. The have a 7 page article on Cameron's "Aliens" from 1986. Nice.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Avatar = Starship Troopers 3

    by acroyear77

    Exactly

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Another good JC interview: talks Battle Angel, Avatar

    by Rindain

    At ew.com: http://tinyurl.com/ylr89z

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 2:05 a.m. CST

    James Cameron should have directed Transformers....

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    He's into anime right? Well, the 1986 Transformers movie is technically anime, and did have subsequent anime. A $200 million Cameron Transformers movie. And guaranteed no flames on Optimus.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 2:12 p.m. CST

    SUMMARY OF THE NEW TRANSFORMERS MOVIE.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    http://tinyurl.com/twab2

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 3:28 p.m. CST

    If Cameron doesn't call back soon...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    I'm only going to see Avatar ONE hundred times at the theatre.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 6:43 p.m. CST

    So Cameron just made "Photorealism" the new buzzword

    by Jon E Cin

    Buzz buzz buzzzzzzzz

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 11:37 p.m. CST

    MetalWater

    by Lavaman

    MetalWater, we get it; you hate Lucas. If you think Cameron is such a visionary, then why do you get so defensive, and attack Lucas every time to prove your point? Don't get me wrong, I think Cameron is an great and Iconic Filmmaker. Heck, I even love and defend Titanic, which most of his big Fans on this Site seem to hate. The truth is though, Lucas may make strange decisions at times; but his Vision to push the envelope of Stop Motion Effects with Star Wars, and then Digital Effects, paved the way for everyonr else. Your comment that ILM can't acheive photorealism, and that their work looks like a video game is laughable. Dude, ILM invented photorealistic CGI. CGI.

  • Jan. 12, 2007, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Harry

    by Lavaman

    How about an Edit option for this Site?

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 5:10 a.m. CST

    thats my only real gripe with the prequels

    by BendersShinyAss

    you can complain about bad writing and acting all you like, but it's no different to the originals. the visual effects however.... while they were mezmerizingly fantastic, they were what i considered to be just artwork of photoshop paint. if the time had been taken, like the most part of episode 1, to actually map photographs onto the ships, planetscapes, battle droids and the likes, we'd have films that are far more visually pleasing. thats not to say it wasn't impressivem but when you look at a scene in episode 1 where the battle takes place on a rolling green medow with a mix of digital and real elements, compared to moments greated entirely within the computer.... it took a lot of people away from the movies impact. you can't have an audiance be able to tell where the digital reality ends and the digital starts. star ship troopers was the first fully photorealistic cgi film. and it was rumoured at the time the effects were closely monitored by Lucas. And i said this before, but forest gump still stands out as the most incredible CGI film of all time. and that was 17 years ago.

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 1:23 p.m. CST

    PART 2 YOU PIMPS!

    by Razorback

    Can someone please CGI up part 2?

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Agree about Startship Troopers

    by Rindain

    Add the first Jurassic Park, Spielberg's A.I., and Davey Jones to the list of photorealistic effects. War of the Worlds is close too. Kong and Gollum were close, but I'm sure WETA is up to the challenge of surpassing ILM's Davey. Cameron will have their heads if they don't.

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Forrest Gump came out in 1994, 13 years ago, not 17. I'm in a pedantic kind of mood tonight. Avatar will be AMAZING, even the haters know it. Bring on 2009.

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 6:11 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss

    by Lavaman

    You actually think the CGI of Starship Troopers looks better than the Battle of Geonosis in AOTC, and Utapau in ROTS? Come on, the Clone Troopers looked real; escpecially in Revenge Of The Sith. To this day people still think Lucas made Clonetrooper Suits for the Prequels, but there weren't any made, they were all CGI. No Extras in Suits. Also; why would Lucas closely monitor Starship Troopers, when ILM already created Jurrasic Park, which was more Photoreal than Starship Troopers by the way. Weta, Digital Domain, Sony Image Works, and all these other Effects Houses are doing great work; but why don't people give the proper respect to ILM(the original Effects House)as well. I think people say that ILM is subpar, only because it is Lucas's company.

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 10:36 p.m. CST

    MetalWater

    by Lavaman

    That's funny, you were just saying that Cameron invented Photorealism. Now you change your story, and it's Trumbull. I am aware that Lucas doesn't actually do the Effects himself, DUH! Neither does Cameron, or any Filmmaker. I was just defending Lucas's Legacy as a Filmmaker who pushes the envelope with Effects. As for Dykstra, it was Lucas that had the vision that he could push Dykstra to create a better Motion camera for the Death Star Battle. Also; you are wrong about Lucas taking all the credit. He always gives credit to his Effects people. Cameron is the one bragging about how he is going to shock the world by creating the first totally photoreal CGI. You claim to know what Cameron would say about Lucas. Whatever it is, it should be thanks for making my job easier.

  • Jan. 14, 2007, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Stop the torture!!!!!!

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Must...have...Cameron...interview...now...!!!

  • Jan. 14, 2007, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Harry, ask Cameron if we can have a teensy peek...

    by Rindain

    ...Maybe a Na'vi's foot or eyeball, or a purple Pandoran fern. Or the title logo. Anything to keep me from exploding.

  • Jan. 14, 2007, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Well, I know my Cameron...

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    ...and I can say Metalwater knows his stuff. Homeboy has done his research. Although, Metal, didn't JC say back in the early 2000's that Avatar wouldn't happen maybe ever because the budget would have to be about $300 million, and that's why (at the time at least,) he felt it couldn't be made? OTOH, perhaps he was being discreet in not mentioning his situation with Digital Domain. PS: Speaking of DD, is it any wonder Michael "I-Wanna-Be-Cameron-So-Bad-But-I- Don't-Have-The-Talent" Bay is now HNIC at Jim's Ex-FX House?

  • Jan. 14, 2007, 7:06 p.m. CST

    I had no idea about digital domain

    by BendersShinyAss

    I always look at these interviews and stuff and see how cameron is always talking about effects with effects houses OTHER THAN digital domain. I always thought of digital domain as being on par with ILM, only ILM would light every effect so there were no shadows, whereas DD would always make a nice contrast and edge to their effects. We're in another early 70's dark age of bad visual effects. Everyone is doing them, but not everyone is doing them right.

  • Jan. 14, 2007, 9:48 p.m. CST

    sure thing MetalWater; your the expert

    by Lavaman

    (Sarcasm)Yeah, your right MetalWater, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park looked so fake with their bad lighting; Digital Domain could have done so much better than those ILM hacks. Also, like you say, the Prequels look like videogames.(end sarcasm) What's up with all you ILM haters saying that their CGI looks like video games? Did you come from the future with some Super Game Console? Because no current Gen Console,(Xbox 360, Playstation 3, or whatever), has any games that even come close to any movie CGI from ILM. Your either jealous or delusional.

  • Jan. 15, 2007, 1:25 a.m. CST

    What about 'Dark Angel'

    by Dr Gregory House

    ...The Porno Years?!?! That cat DNA gotta eat...

  • Jan. 15, 2007, 1:27 a.m. CST

    So what? Many of the Shots were CGI!!!

    by Lavaman

    Yes there were Animatronics as well, and Stan Winston did a great job as usual, but that doesn't change the fact that most of the Dino Shots were CGI. The big Brontosaurs we first see, the T-Rex chasing the jeep, most of the Raptor Shots, and the T-Rex going after the Raptor at the end, were some of the groundbreaking CGI Shots by ILM. That is common knowledge.

  • Jan. 15, 2007, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Weta would not exist without Lucas

    by Razorback

    PJ and crew were given the blueprints to Weta by the Lucasfilm people because they were too busy doing the Star Wars prequels to do LOTR. So, before you shit on Lucas look at how unselfish he was in helping PJ.

  • Jan. 15, 2007, 5:42 p.m. CST

    MICHAEL BIEHN ADDED TO CAST?!

    by Adam B

    According to LatinoReview, Michael Biehn has now been added to the cast of AVATAR! http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=1330

  • Jan. 15, 2007, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Any chance Biehn will play...

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    ...the hard-as-nails military officer? I think he could do it... kind of a stretch, but I think it would show a different side to the man...

  • Jan. 19, 2007, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Nabster, a word about Ellison

    by coolguyaaron

    "Ellison sued Cameron, and Ellison won, this is a fact". Now the subtleties of the english language may escape you, but "settled" is not the same word as "won". Ellison did not win his idiotic lawsuit against Cameron, Cameron settled rather than go through a long drawn out lawsuit with a guy who has sued nearly everyone he's come in contact with. Why? Becuase the d-bag thinks he he has a monopoly on every element of sci-fi that he's touched. There are similarities between his scripts and Terminator, enough to say Cameron was "inspired", or "influenced"? Yes. Enough to say he plagerized? Fuck no. A robot comes back from the future with humanity encoded inside of him, and fights aliens. WOW! Time travel! That bastard Cameron stole his idea! And in the future there's a war involving heat rays? DAMN! Is there any sacred ground that thief won't desecrate? Heat rays! He stole it! It's blown out of proportion. Cameron should have fought the lawsuit, which he would have won. Then we wouldn't have these idiots here, who've probably never even seen Ellison's episodes, bad mouthing one of the single greatest directors of our time over nonsense.

  • Aug. 25, 2007, 12:07 p.m. CST

    nabster

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Writing is actually Cameron's strong point. It's dialogue that he needs to work on.