Jan. 9, 2007, 2:44 a.m. CST
by Mace Tofu
I stopped watching after the third episode so I could wait for the Boxset DVDs ... I don't peak at the spoilers!
Jan. 9, 2007, 2:46 a.m. CST
I've been enjoying Heroes more than any other show this year, including Lost (whoa, I feel dirty after saying that, sorry JJ...LOST rules!!).
Jan. 9, 2007, 2:58 a.m. CST
24, BSG, Lost and 4400 as my five favourite US shows of the moment. None of them are flawless but they're all fine entertainment. (Any others I should be watching??)
Jan. 9, 2007, 2:59 a.m. CST
that this show doesn't drop the ball. you hear that insiders? DON'T MESS THIS UP.
Jan. 9, 2007, 3:11 a.m. CST
WHY WON'T NBC AIR THIS AT 8PM???<br><br>And who let Herc out of Coaxial? :P
Jan. 9, 2007, 3:12 a.m. CST
already knew all that, somehow. he can predict the future and manipulate the talkback posts.<br><br>jan. 22nd is a long ways off though, god dammit.
Jan. 9, 2007, 3:31 a.m. CST
When we'd get spoiler filled news of buffy, and lost every week... good reporting Herc.
Jan. 9, 2007, 4:35 a.m. CST
You made me read the spoilers!
Jan. 9, 2007, 4:39 a.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
...The CIA. That's according to what the comic book series (available for download from NBC.com) reveals.
Jan. 9, 2007, 5:07 a.m. CST
by Black Satin 2
I'll bet it's some shadow organization within the CIA that investigates phenominia like people who fly and telepaths. The Haitian looks like he mastered his abilities. Maybe the Chris Ecceleston character was a roommate.
Jan. 9, 2007, 5:10 a.m. CST
by Evil Lincoln
This has got to be one of the most geeky series ever made for prime time! I'm glad it's doing well so far.
Jan. 9, 2007, 6:08 a.m. CST
OH FUCK YES. Sure Heroes is 50/50 but the good 50 percent is fucking ace. I hope Eccleston is a good guy with a sweet power and that he's a regular. Anyone have anymore deatails about him in this?
Jan. 9, 2007, 6:19 a.m. CST
He's going to be Peter Petrelli's mentor, with the power of invisibility. Think I read that on the interview with Hiro on IGN.
Jan. 9, 2007, 6:21 a.m. CST
Didn't he say (when he had captured Matt) that he doesn't work for any organisation with initials?
Jan. 9, 2007, 6:29 a.m. CST
In the Village they all had numbers. Claire's dad must work for them. <p> " "In the Village." "What do you want?" "Information." "Whose side are you on?" "That would be telling.... We want information. Information! INFORMATION!" "You won't get it." "By hook or by crook, we will." "Who are you?" "The new Number 2." (This may vary — see below.) "Who is Number 1?" "You are Number 6." "I am not a number — I am a free man!" (Laughter from Number 2.)" Did they skip why the Haitian was sparing Claire? What was his big secret? <p> Will Mohinder figure out how to straighten his sideburns this episode? If they keep slanting up they will be Star Trek straight pointy ones.
Jan. 9, 2007, 6:59 a.m. CST
Invisibility eh? Sweeeeet. Can. Not. Wait.
Jan. 9, 2007, 8:36 a.m. CST
I mean talk about being more drawn out that an episode of Lost. Good show though. Would have made a better mini series?
Jan. 9, 2007, 8:49 a.m. CST
Seriously why the hell are they keeping Heroes in the 9 PM slot up against 24??? Don't they realize that a ton of their viewership are 24 fanatics? I am sadly going to have to forego the rest of the season for 24 because NBC is too stupid to move Heroes to the 10 PM slot when FOX is showing local news. It's bullsh!t my two favorite network shows are on at the same time. Ya can't fuck with Jack Bauer
Jan. 9, 2007, 8:49 a.m. CST
The show consistantly pushes forward, advancing not only the story, but the characters in every episode. And every episode, with the exception of maybe ONE, has had a cliffhanger/shocker ending that had me on the edge of my seat until the following week. They set up a great first half story arc that was resolved well, and with style. I think that the first half of season one was just a warmup lap around the track before it really kicks it into high gear.
Jan. 9, 2007, 8:56 a.m. CST
You sir, are a walking contradiction. "Jump the shark... great show though!" Here's one fer ya: I found your post very insightful although completely chock full o' shit.
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:09 a.m. CST
Hiro will recreate the Fonz jumping the shark on skis.<br> Just with a trex instead.
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:11 a.m. CST
for people between ages 18-45 or it has been, so I think it can hold its own against 24. As for the show jumping the shark, no way, the show is pure fun. A few of the actors are subpar mainly the god awful British Indian dude, and his clearly NOT Indian father. Also the Split personality psycho is probably the weakest of the story lines, but the rest is gold, its like watching a comic books series. Hmmmm now if we could get a The Authority tv show.
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST
but it hasn't been up against 24. you'll see those numbers dwindle and you'll see them dwindle fast. not only is it going up against 24, but 24 is going to have a day's head start. by the time the next episode of heroes is done airing, 24 will already have aired four episodes, which i hear are absolutely shocking, and therefore will definitely keep the audiences watching. suffice it to say, nbc is not doing its show justice.
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:36 a.m. CST
...maybe WB Pictures will reconsider him [Eccleston] for the role of The Joker and direct Mr. Nolan to give Heath Ledger the pink slip. Wake up, WB, there's still time to save the film! You shoulda been watching *Doctor Who* back in 2005 to get the best casting idea for a comic book film since Patrick Stewart landed the role of Professor Xavier in the *X-Men* franchise. Ah, who am I kidding...the WB would probably replace Ledger with Brandon Routh before they gave serious thought to Christopher Eccleston in the role.
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST
Heors is actually a Scandinavian reality show about prostitution. Just sayin...
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:42 a.m. CST
on bbc 2
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:45 a.m. CST
Stop whining! You may want to try using a "video cassette recorder" or "VCR" and/or a "digital video recorder" or "DVR". Excuse whilst I retire to my "Death Star".
Jan. 9, 2007, 9:54 a.m. CST
At least, in terms of overall storyline progression, but that could be due to the smaller amount of flashback reliance. <p>Oh, and David Tennant should be the Joker before Christopher Eccleston. Unlike Eccleston, he actually looks the part and has considerably more range.</p>
Jan. 9, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST
NBC thinks they're good as gold against 24, but I guarantee you Heroes will move in the Fall. If it doesn't happen later in season 1.
Jan. 9, 2007, 10:08 a.m. CST
While I generally agree with you, I think you are off with your suggestion of David Tennant as The Joker over Eccleston. Eccleston is much more gritty. Tennant would be too tempted to go over-the-top with the performance, and I also think Eccleston would have more credibility in actually going toe to toe with Bale's Batman. I'd rather have Tennant as The Riddler, but with a more nuanced take than what we've seen outside of the Timm/Dini animated series.
Jan. 9, 2007, 10:17 a.m. CST
My prediction for finale cliffhanger: Peter accidentally channels Hiro's powers and travels far into the past or future, and then the power wears off, trapping him in another time. To Be Continued.
Jan. 9, 2007, 10:32 a.m. CST
to me is soooo sloooow...as a devoted comic reader and obsessive lover of the superhero genre myself my friends are shocked that I'm just not into this show...it just feels like I've read this before(Rising Stars anyone?)...and I could do with about half the characters getting knocked off...but damn I loves me some Hiro...if only a few more of the characters were less bitchy-angsty and enjoyed there gifts....I've grown tired of the "poor me and this awful curse of power" personalities...both in comics and this snail of a show...this show is going on the bakcburner for awhile...24's going to kick so much ass....
Jan. 9, 2007, 10:38 a.m. CST
Honest to God, I've never watched an episode of it. I didn't watch it the first season, and decided it was "too late" to get involved after that. Is it really worth it ? I pulled the same stunt with the Sopranos and then just broke down and bought every season on DVD last summer. I've been watching 3 - 6 episodes a week for the last three months and, let me tell you, that's the way to watch a show like that. Maybe I need to do the same thing with 24. No commercial interruptions, no three month Christmas breaks ... just non-stop stories.
Jan. 9, 2007, 11:45 a.m. CST
by Tin Snoman
It is ABSOLUTELY worth it. I missed 24 when it started and only decided to give it a shot about a year ago, when I rented season 1 from Netflix. I was totally hooked within ten minutes. DVD certainly reduces the withdrawal symptoms that cliffhangers can cause. Now that I'm caught up to season 6 I'll just have to twitch like a crack addict until the next Monday like everyone else...and then watch Heroes the next day in glorious streaming video BECAUSE THAT'S THE CHOICE WE'RE FORCED TO MAKE. Thanks, NBC!
Jan. 9, 2007, 11:54 a.m. CST
Jan 22 is to far away.
Jan. 9, 2007, 11:58 a.m. CST
did Sylar smash through that window to get to Eden? Annoying. VERY annoying. Hopefully that is answered. And on second and third viewing it is apparent that she killed herself because he was pissed after she shot herself.
Jan. 9, 2007, 12:02 p.m. CST
Answer: Of course not! At this point you'll be left wondering why everyone rolls their eyes when Jack goes "off the reservation" and how every terrorist manages NOT to be an Islamic cook. You'll laugh when deadly nerve gas is held back by wall partitions yet magically can eat through seams on doors with timed precision. You'll crack up at how the CTU (the governments elite terrorist defense unit) can be so easily infiltrated season after season. Your head will spin as characters constantly change their morality in favor of plot twists. You'll giggle like a little school girl when noticing Jack's daughter is always in trouble. You'll get buzzed if you do a shot everytime Jack holds a gun to a suspects head and demands to know "WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR?!". Try Heroes, it hasn't had a chance to be repetitive...yet.
Jan. 9, 2007, 12:33 p.m. CST
Venture Bros.!!! Go Team Venture! Season One DVD for 8.99 at amazon. Seriously, Itchy. I laugh til I cry.
Jan. 9, 2007, 12:50 p.m. CST
24 is good for about half the episodes. If it ran a Brit series of maybe 13 episodes it would be excellent. Or if it ran as a miniseries. Right now it duplicates itself and has far too much filler for 24 episodes. <p> Season 1 was just filled with bullshit. It became a joke of itself by the end. And season two repeated many of the subplot lines from season 1. <p> From watching 24 one has to wonder how the government accomplishs anything. CTU is the most infiltrated unit out there.
Jan. 9, 2007, 12:57 p.m. CST
Damn don't any of you recognize more Brit actors that Eccleston and Tennant? Try David Threlfall or Marc Warren. Both may be even more talented. <p> How about Marl Heap as the Joker? Or Julian Rhind-Tutt as the Riddler? Or maybe even Stephen Mangan for either role. <p> Personally I would go with Michelle Gomez as Poison Ivy.
Jan. 9, 2007, 1:22 p.m. CST
an Islamic COOK?...really?...:)...in all fairness know you mean kook but I couldn't resist...and yes Venture Brothers is a much better use of everyones time!
Jan. 9, 2007, 1:30 p.m. CST
by Lando Griffin
I am in the same boat in regards to 24. I'll get around to it someday
Jan. 9, 2007, 1:40 p.m. CST
With his skeletal face and resonant, booming voice, Eccleston would have been far better cast as Ra's Al Ghul (think David Warner's version from the animated series). As for Tennant as the Joker, I think the character needs to go over-the-top a bit, just not as hammy as Jack Nicholson's performance. And without Russell T. Davies' campish scripts, Tennant is usually much more impressive. (See "The Girl in the Fireplace," "The Satan Pit," etc.) <p>Oh, and EvilWizardGlick, everyone who's anyone obviously knows that all Brit actors worth suggesting come from DOCTOR WHO. If you haven't appeared on WHO, you might as well be a generic Imperial Officer with a British accent from the original STAR WARS. That, or you're Judi Dench.</p>
Jan. 9, 2007, 2:06 p.m. CST
24 airs once. Heroes repeats on Sci Fi Channel Friday night, and Monday night just before NBC airs a new episode. I've only got a single channel DVR so my Heroes night will have to move to Fridays. Unless of course NBC/UNIVERSAL starts making things even more difficult.
Jan. 9, 2007, 2:24 p.m. CST
Heroes can't move to 8pm because that's kiddie hour. Sure Prison Break airs then, but that's Fox, they are outside of the big 3. I think I'll be DVRing 24 and watching Heroes since it's new. We know 24 won't get cancelled before May but if Hereos falls down then we'll lose it.
Jan. 9, 2007, 2:49 p.m. CST
"did Sylar smash through that window to get to Eden? Annoying. VERY annoying. " Sylar used his Telekinesis to pull Eden into the glass. Breaking the glass, and letting him hold her in place while he did his monologue. She knew he would be even stronger with her power, so she shot herself in the head to prevent him from taking it.
Jan. 9, 2007, 3:38 p.m. CST
The actor who plays Chandra Suresh IS from north India, specifically from Darjeeling. As for Mohinder Suresh, I think he's an integral part of the show, which is cool IMHO. He's most likely the Professor X type, which the Heroes adopt as their spiritual leader or something. In any case, I hope Heroes moves to a different timeslot. NBC should know better than to go up against 24, as 24 already has an established fanbase. Heroes is a great show IMHO, but it can't go up against 24 or there will be a significant drop in ratings.
Jan. 9, 2007, 4:08 p.m. CST
Since I have an HD set, one show gets the star treatment, while the other one is pulled off my crappy apartment complex split-satellite cable. I was leaning towards watching Heroes, but after watching those first four episodes of 24 (which were mindblowingly awesome, quite possibly the best four episodes of the series ever in my opinion), I'm back to the toss up. Even so, Monday nights rule me with Prison Break, 24, and Heroes. I'm just hoping Heroes culminates in a battle royale fight against Sylar or some other villains to start a new threat next season.
Jan. 9, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST
That's just wrong.
Jan. 9, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST
... to the NBC.com page that reveals Jack Bennet works for the CIA??
Jan. 9, 2007, 5:43 p.m. CST
will be the mentor character that can slice guns in half with his mind.
Jan. 9, 2007, 6 p.m. CST
Jan. 9, 2007, 6:36 p.m. CST
1. Why was Sylar trying to get that little girl? Will that be explained? 2. Why did Eden's power work on Sylar at the homecoming but not in the holding tamk?
Jan. 9, 2007, 6:36 p.m. CST
sorry, I am all thumbs.
Jan. 9, 2007, 7:10 p.m. CST
Geezus, I remember reading talkbacks after the original episode aired where people were confused about what had happened. It was bleeding obvious! For a pretty undemanding show it sure does seem to cause a lot of confusion.
Jan. 9, 2007, 7:13 p.m. CST
Jan. 9, 2007, 7:14 p.m. CST
by the crucible
I think someone may have pinched your spoilers :) http://www.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/thread.jspa?threadID=41628&tstart=45 Still I found it funny - fashion major working in customer service as Herc's alter ego.
Jan. 9, 2007, 7:15 p.m. CST
The cheerleader chick has an album coming out (wretch!).
Jan. 9, 2007, 7:25 p.m. CST
Oh wait I forgot what site I was on (no sports references). I meant 24 is more over-rated than Heroes. There all better. <br><br> Every season I watch 24 hoping that it'll be the season the writers get their shit together -and every year without fail I am dissapointed. <br><br>Here's how it typically goes...You are initially lured in by the great trailer and the stellar first 10 episodes (tight writing and great plot twists included). Somewhere in the 11th or 12th episode comes the big first act reveal, a shocking twist (typically including the death of a major player), and the complete reinvention of the plot. <br><br>You can stop watching at this point because what comes next is what I now refer to as "the rest of the season". Where nothing ties into what came before, the characters change 180 degrees from who they were or randomly disappear (Behrooz anyone), no one but Jack is capable of solving anything and there are suddenly tears in the fabric of time through which Jack jumps on occasion (so that he can conveniently make it from the Death Valley to Los Angeles in 30 minutes flat). <br><br>Every season without fail follows this exact formula. But I'm still watching so hey it must be working... The best part is the writers admit that they don't plan past the first 12 episodes. After that they fly by the seat of their pants and shows. Boy does it show big time.
Jan. 9, 2007, 7:35 p.m. CST
by Uncle Stan
It's because of that sexy tomboy beanpole Alton Brown.
Jan. 9, 2007, 7:39 p.m. CST
Be careful Mace tofu dont want to ruin it for you.I was recomeneded this show and dloaded 1st 4 eps,I was 50/50 until SPOLIER ALERT Future Hiro(I like that character in present tense too,he's the star of the show for me) showed up,that was quality,that sold me and I dloaded and watched the remaining eps in one go last week while ill.Nice show,I hope they don't string it out too long and keep things moving and evolving.Nice theory Trik,I'll be looking out for that one.BSG started here today,result!!
Jan. 9, 2007, 10:29 p.m. CST
you know you're in the Heroes talkback, not the 24 talkback, right?
Jan. 10, 2007, 7:31 a.m. CST
No, I actually meant Islamic COOK. I loves me some chicken shwarma.
Jan. 10, 2007, 8:22 a.m. CST
is that there is no consensus. I'm leaning towards putting it on the "To Do" list for the summer. Doubt I'll buy the the DVDs ... maybe it's time to finally get with the Netflix program.
Jan. 10, 2007, 8:41 a.m. CST
by white owl
It's Big-time name, I'm a huge fan, always expect them to show up, they rarely ever do.
Jan. 10, 2007, 9:04 a.m. CST
Just curious. With Heroes and 24, I'll have my serial drama fix from now on. With such a long hiatus I can definitely feel my interests being pulled elsewhere come February. Sorry Lost, only so many hours to watch TV! Love ya, but the plot is not moving forward enough to hold me any longer. (and discovery is NOT the same as moving the plot forward. That, my friends, is what killed the X-Files.) Everyone runs around looking for "answers" with no plot resolution. (I know Michael & Walt got to leave...or did they?) HEROES, on the other hand, moves forward even when it's doing flashbacks (thanks Hiro!), even if it is clunky at times. I'm lovin' it.
Jan. 10, 2007, 11:48 a.m. CST
A)The will stop the nuke, Sylar will die and the heroes will accept their destiny and start fighting crime for a living. B)They will stop the nuke but discover something far worse behind it, and sylar escapes. C) They don't stop the nuke, and this show very quickly becomes a post-apocalyptic setting. Hell, maybe they are even to blame for it. That be a nice twist. Either way, the nuke plotline will be resolved by the end of this season, no question. I'm also betting sylar will be dealt with as well.
Jan. 10, 2007, 1:52 p.m. CST
That doesn't make sense. If he could smash through why hadn't he have done that before when the claire's father was in there. And Claire's father told him his powers "wouldn't work here." And why couldn't Eden then control Sylar once they were in contact if both of their powers could work? And why'll we're at it how come the Haitian can erase minds? I thought his power was to block other people's powers, or is that what claire's father can do? That would explain why Sylar didn't get him but not why he didn't escape before or after he left. Can ANYBODY answer these questions. To all you Lost-haters, this show is just as bad so shut the hell up.
Jan. 10, 2007, 1:54 p.m. CST
I realize my grammar sucks.
Jan. 10, 2007, 2:44 p.m. CST
And you shut the hell up.
Jan. 11, 2007, 2:33 a.m. CST
seriously, do you actually pay attention to this show or just watch the pretty pictures as they flash past the screen?? EVERYBODY can answer these questions for you! You know why? Because they paid attention! And if they can't answer a question, you know why that is? Because it hasn't been revealed yet! Go back, watch them all again, pay attention, remember it isn't real, and enjoy. (FFS.)
Jan. 11, 2007, 1:49 p.m. CST
And my bad about the father of the Brit Indian dude, I really thought he wasnt Indian, but some North Indians do look quite apart from their brethren. And too the guy that doesnt like this show but compares it to Rising Stars. No Rising Stars is very, very different. I thought the first volume of Rising Stars was excellent, while the rest which followed took a severe nose dive in quality. Another critique of JMS's comics is the lack of humour in it. They are ofcourse very serious, but not all that dark, for instance Waren Ellis's comics are much darker and also have much more humour, he is the superior writer IMO. And to the guy that asked if 24 is good, well honestly too me its one of those shows where the quality is really dependent on the environment in which you watch it, and the mood you are in. I do think the first and 5th season were very addictive and fun, if you like action fare, 24 is the way to go as it is the grand-daddy of tv action shows.