Jan. 8, 2007, 6:26 a.m. CST
...nice set of books to read in the first three. Being a fan of Jackson's work on Rings, I have faith in an adaptation to film. If you're a fantasy fan and haven't read them. Pick them up, you won't be disappointed.
Jan. 8, 2007, 7:30 a.m. CST
by Talkbacker with no name
These books sound very cool! Perfect for Jackson to film.hope it all goes ahead soon! <p>If you haters are going to slag of Jackson please at least say something we haven't seen a million times in these TB's. It's very boring to read.
Jan. 8, 2007, 8:33 a.m. CST
by white owl
sidenote: seeing a banner for ghost rider saddens me. Just to know that it was made, and it centered around Nic Cage, and knowing that all you fanboys will be warm to it, just makes me feel all dirty inside.
Jan. 8, 2007, 8:34 a.m. CST
by white owl
why invest anymore in the mostly-dead english accent-large battle-holiday fantasy flick. I've yawned a thousand times over. Even His Dark Materials doesn't get me juiced when thinkin of it as a film.
Jan. 8, 2007, 9:51 a.m. CST
He didn't bother to read LOTR before he made it, and when he read it 15 years earlier he "took forever to plow through it" according to him. But I guess this fangirl's fiction is a little easier, probably heavier on spectacle, which is easier for his puny ADD addled mind to handle
Jan. 8, 2007, 10:09 a.m. CST
I really hope they offer him the role. When I read the first book (I only have the first one so far) I imagined Laurence looking very similar to Jackman, yet strangely I never actually acknowledged Jackman as being a contender for the role in my mind. Thinking about it now, he really would be perfect. As far as Cape Town is concerned, I live there and, while crime is a problem, it's really no more of a problem than in a large city like New York. It's not like I live my life in fear. Also, I don't know what she's on about the lights being turned off at night - Cape Town is a huge city, it was voted the number one tourist destination last year - it's not the bloody wilderness.
Jan. 8, 2007, 10:27 a.m. CST
But complete bullshit like Eragon getting greenlit and hyped to fuck doesn't help at all. Also, The Hobbit is being made and that also features, you guessed it, a talking dragon, Smaug, who guards the Dwarf treasure under the Lonely Mountain and also burns the shit out of townsfolk when he gets angry. I imagine Peter just saw Napoleonic ships and dragons together and thought 'yes!' Sadly this takes him away from smaller projects, or larger projects that would be more interesting.
Jan. 8, 2007, 11:19 a.m. CST
Naomi Novik is a stone cold fox!<br><br>http://tinyurl.com/ydadjs
Jan. 8, 2007, 11:36 a.m. CST
until the middle of the 3rd book when I finally bailed because things were getting too cute and silly. The first book really is worth checking out, though.
Jan. 8, 2007, 11:56 a.m. CST
Hugh Jackman is also a good choice. I've read the first book and really enjoyed it.
Jan. 8, 2007, 12:16 p.m. CST
BTW, I love these fucking books. I got into them because of your fucking review, Quint! Damn you. ;)
Jan. 8, 2007, 12:29 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
Is she a dragon?
Jan. 8, 2007, 12:40 p.m. CST
i'm just wondering how many from the current crop will be Peter Jackson centric. Or perhaps we're just moving into a new category of AICN Reporting. There's AICN Anime, AICN Down Under, maybe the new arm will be AICN Peter Jackson.
Jan. 8, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Way to fly the flag for the isolationists. Dont worry Quint, theres a Hooters and McDonalds in the Dark Continant. Actually your right, the natives all have bones through their noses and eat Christians <p> PS. NZ is a western country and doesnt count as proper travelling. Theyre all white and speak english down there.
Jan. 8, 2007, 1:56 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
I have not read these books, but since you are of the opinion that the quality has deteriorated as the series has gone one, do you think the movie version can improve upon what was done?
Jan. 8, 2007, 3:46 p.m. CST
Novik set up her world nicely, the relationships are well drawn, and it ends with a huge air and sea battle with dragons rigged out like warships. Jackson would do a great job with that. The second book was okay (but if I didn't like the first one so much I don't know if I would have been so patient with it) and by the middle of the third one I was done.
Jan. 8, 2007, 4:04 p.m. CST
by Thomas Cromwell
Just finished book 1 in the series and i'm looking for 'Throne of Jade'. Paul Bettany should voice Temeraire and i agree with RowanM that Viggo should be Laurance, watch them give these Frenchies a dem good licking!
Jan. 8, 2007, 4:31 p.m. CST
Is because these are a good, solid, original idea. As opposed to Eragon, which was a blatant star wars rip off. And don't say the movie sucked but the book was great. I read the book...it felt like it was written by a kid...which it was. I hope all goes well for this series. I have to admit, though, that dragons are hard to make convincing when they aren't in the vein of the BADASS dragon from Dragonslayer.
Jan. 8, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST
I don't like people ripping into Dragonheart because it isn't THAT bad, mainly due to the phenomenally (at the time) excellent CG on the dragon AND the insane scenery-chewing scene-stealing performance from David Thewlis as the villain. Sadly it's marred by other crappy things, but still it doesn't deserved to be shit on. They can hardly even beat the Draco CG NOW with flicks like Kong.
Jan. 8, 2007, 5:16 p.m. CST
by Fing Fang Foom
Kong effects were way better than Dragonheart. Best Dragon of all time was from DragonSlayer. Case closed.
Jan. 8, 2007, 5:24 p.m. CST
I find this very VERY lame... Napoleon wins more that he did historically to put her majesty´s army in a perilous spot? but wait, WHO SAYS THE BRITISH ARE A BETTER OPTION THAN THE FRENCH?! why in hells name would you want to root for one or the other?! Both greedy nutjobs killing their people in a chess game across europe... this is EXACTLY why LOTR has a universal appeal, real life connections were blurred and only Tolkien´s creativity came through. It doesn´t matter who he based his sides on, because he had the vision to leave them out of the book allowing for the reader to fill the shoes with his own goods and evils
Jan. 8, 2007, 5:54 p.m. CST
Most crap-filled idea ever! Fantasy set in historical times is totally lame anyway, but at least she should have chosen to write about dragons in ancient times, a thousand years ago or something. As someone said; Peter Jackson saw Dragons and Napoleon and thought yeah great let´s make a movie with the english fighting the frensh in airbattles. It´s a step back for the man who did Lord of the rings. Kong was a step back and this is even worse. I say: Beowulf. There is a real dragon story.
Jan. 8, 2007, 7:03 p.m. CST
Now there is a great book. Haven't read this series; Harry Turtledove turned me on then OFF this genre for the time being.
Jan. 8, 2007, 7:22 p.m. CST
Wow, I love that movie! "I'll be back."
Jan. 8, 2007, 8:14 p.m. CST
Vorenus from HBO's ROME would be a better Laurence. in my opinion
Jan. 8, 2007, 11:16 p.m. CST
1. She was talking about the wilderness when she said there were no lights, not about Cape Town. *** 2. It's charming to stick up for your country, but the statistics don't bear out any claims that South Africa is as safe as New York. According to the UN (so take it with a grain of salt) South Africa has the highest rate of gun-related crime in the entire world outside of Colombia. And while Cape Town may not be as bad as Joberg, if your city has more armed bodyguards/security guards than it has cops... it's got issues. *** 3. Quint and the SC Fox were talking about things that eat people, not about cannibals, for fuck's sake. And New Zealand *isn't* all white people. Where do you ignorant dumbasses get this stuff? You're so eager to label someone an ugly American that you inadvertantly reveal your OWN twisted, racist mindset! *** 4. These books have dragons on the covers and therefore I cannot read them. Same shit goes for X-Wings, Vulcans, and Drow. Their premise sounds neat enough though. Shit, what I wouldn't give for a Turtledove story to get the Jackson treatment. *** 5. Definitely splackable, BadMrWonka.
Jan. 9, 2007, 4:44 a.m. CST
As far as I know, there aren't any lights up in the wilderness (because... you know... it's the wilderness), so I assumed she was talking about a city. That makes sense, no? When I compared Cape Town's crime rate to that of New York's, I was not referring to any official statistics put out by the U.N., but was merely making a comparison off the top of my head. Cape Town IS a very dangerous city, not as dangerous as Joburg, but it's still dangerous. Joburg does indeed have the highest rate of gun-related crime in the entire world (as you say, outside of Columbia), I mean, I seriously don't know anyone from Joburg who hasn't been mugged, or whose house hasn't been broken into at least once. What my point was, is that as far as Cape Town is concerned (and people say the same about Joburg), you don't feel the crime around you. I mean, my track record with crime is that my car has been broken into twice - but considering I'm 22 years old and have lived here my whole life, that track record is not that bad, really. Cape Town is seriously the most chilled place on the planet (maybe after New Zealand). As much as I want to move to the States next year, I SERIOUSLY hate it when American TV portrays the whole of Africa as bush and wilderness, with people living in huts and shit - it's just not like that at all... at least not in the cities of South Africa. That's all.
Jan. 9, 2007, 8:50 a.m. CST
...on her website. That's right, dragon fanboys, suck it.
Jan. 9, 2007, 12:15 p.m. CST
by Tin Snoman
I know because I read them. His Majesty's Dragon was probably the best one. Throne of Jade was all right, but it took so loooooong just to get to China I almost gave up on it. The pacing in Black Powder War was a bit off too, but overall it wasn't bad. I think that whatever problems the narrative might have can be fixed in the screen adaptation process. They'll make excellent films; the characters are interesting, especially the dragons. Looking forward to the next two books.
Jan. 15, 2007, 12:38 p.m. CST
I'm finding it really creepy when Laurence calls Temeraire 'My Dear'..
June 1, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST