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The Following Takes Place Between 6 a.m. and 7 a.m.!! Hercules Loves 24 6.1!!

I am – Hercules!!
“24” 6.1, airing one week from today, lives up to expectations. The first big surprise is Mary Lynn Rajskub is now the star of “24.” Kiefer Sutherland is not listed among the first episode’s opening cast credits! Here’s who is: Mary Lynn Rajskub D.B. Woodside James Morrison Peter MacNicol Jayne Atkinson Carlo Rota Eric Balfour Marisol Nichols GUEST STARRING Roger Cross Michael Angarano Megan Gallagher Tzi Ma Adoni Maropis Kal Penn Raphael Sbarge Eric Bruskotter Steven Schub So we’re left to wonder, how long till we see Jack Bauer again? As season six begins, America is a different place. David Palmer’s kid brother, Wayne, has been president of the United States for 13 weeks. For 11 of those 13, America has been under siege. Nine hundred Americans murdered by terrorists in 10 cities. And the frequency of terror is increasing. Mere hours after a devastating attack in San Antonio, a suicide bomber makes his mark in Los Angeles. America, understandably, is freaking out. And it’s not a good time to be a swarthy guy with a Mideast accent. We meet one of these guys trying to get to work and he is denied access to a bus by a scared white driver. Later, we see a couple of white guys kicking in the door of their Arab neighbors. “We just want to talk,” says one, with little conviction. Karen Hayes, who worked for Homeland Security out of CTU last season, is now national security advisor. Peter MacNichol, doing what sounds at first like a Dr. Phil accent, is a presidential advisor building “detention facilities” Hayes categorizes as “concentration camps.” The MacNichol character, Tom, even goes on to defend America’s Japanese internment camps of World War II. The first hour, loaded with gratifying twists and revelations, suggests the crazy pace of the series will not be compromised by its many changes. We’ll cloak the big news for longtime fans (whom one suspects will go nuts over this episode) in invisotext: * We all know that the Chinese made a deal to return Jack Bauer to the United States. But Jack’s not back for the reason many are thinking. * When we finally return to CTU for the first time since May, the first voice we hear is that of Milo Pressman (Eric Balfour), whom we’ve not seen since he was the Chloe of season one. Milo is now “middle management” at CTU bossing around Morris, Chloe’s bald Brit of an ex-husband. * Eerily reflecting discussion in this column and its talkbacks, there’s the briefest of conversations about whether or not Chloe is hot. Chloe has traded her librarian sweater for a tight business suit and has gone brunette. She has, for the record, never looked hotter. * Chloe and Morris are back together. Bill and Karen are a thing as well. * Chloe now reports to another hot brunette, this one named Nadia. Nadia is played by Marisol Nichols, who 10 years ago played Audrey Griswold in “Vegas Vacation.” * Seven minutes in, we learn the U.S. negotiated Jack Bauer’s release from Chinese prison two days ago. * Jack was not well-treated. He doesn’t know Wayne Palmer is president. * Jack’s first three words in two years are, “Audrey. My daughter.” * Chloe does something really bad. There’s so much more we want to tell you about this installment, but – trust me - it would be ruinous to your enjoyment. Seek out more spoilers elsewhere if you must – believe me, they’re out there – but know you’ll regret doing so. 8 p.m. Next Sunday. Fox.

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  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:28 p.m. CST

    6.1 is AMAZING.

    by nalapou

    And 6.2, 6.3 and 6.4 keep up the awesomeness. 6.4 has not 1 but 2 holy shit moments. The tone is completely different then the first 5 seasons and Keifer's acting as always is stellar. If the next 20 keep the pace of the first 4, its safe to say that 24 will lock up its second straight Emmy. God bless moneygrubbing FOX and their insistence on the release of a premiere DVD and its subsequent leak on to the internet. What an awesome show. "I can't do this anymore..."

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST


    by Kash18


  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Also 6.1 has the best Jack Bauer kill EVER.

    by nalapou

    I do not lie.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:35 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    I concur.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST


    by Dash D

    That scene proves that Jack Bauer is the best BADASS in TV history. I jumped out of my chair after that!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:37 p.m. CST

    herc / nalapou

    by tranpkp1

    I concur as well. Best start to 24 ever and I'm going on record saying even tho they won emmy last season I think was retroactive from seasons past I didn't think season 5 was that stellar but 6.1-4 are absolutely supurb.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST


    by nalapou

    Yeah, it was amazing. Ouch!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:38 p.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    funny how kiefer reverts to his lost boys persona :P

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Agree with you all. I love S5 though.

    by nalapou

    If S6 keeps the same pace I'd go: 6,5,2,4,1,3. But I love them all.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Saw the first 4 episodes

    by SeVen Higgins

    I won't spoil shit for anyone but Jack goes back to his roots and finds his inner "Lost Boy" at the end of 6.1

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:41 p.m. CST

    badass jack is back....

    by tranpkp1

    But i still will not relent. I will never forgive the audacious treatment, the writers/producers, gave to one Tony SoulPatch Almedia. RIP my friend.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:43 p.m. CST

    the first four episodes of this season ...

    by Toe Jam

    are available, if you know where to look for them. that said, i resisted the temptation so that i could view the show in glorious HD come next sunday and monday. GRAVITAS!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    i think 2 from start to finsh had the best flow/continuity and the hotel arc of season with lovely Ms. Dessler was great. S6 by far best start and if they even just keep this Usually 24 ramps up 1/2 way but holy hell good stuff. I thought i'd be purturbed by all the new cast additions and its slight distracting at first to see all the familiar faces; Cyrill from Oz, MacNichol, Bashir from DS9, Regina King, her BF....but its ok and they're all good.. What happend to Mike Novic they finaly couldnt figure out how to keep him or do I not remember what happened to him?

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    best jack bauer kill EVER?

    by Toe Jam

    even better than when he sawed the pedophile's head off and plopped it on the interrogation room's table in ... um, lemme think ... season two?

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Agree that the style of death of Tony Almeda was...

    by nalapou

    the worst moment of the season. I was cool with him dying... But loser "Rudy" Sean Astin goes out a hero and Tony gets needled to death? Terrible. The overall story was just unbelivable though. If it makes you feel better, switch in your mind how Tony and Lynn died... lol, that's what I did.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:47 p.m. CST

    lol Toe Jam, that was a close second.

    by nalapou

    I swear i had "Im gonna need a hacksaw" and season four's "WHAT IS HAPPENING AT 8 O'CLOCK?!?!? (followed by gunshot to kneecap)" in mind when i made that comment, you will not be disappointed my friend.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:50 p.m. CST


    by nalapou

    Ms. Dessler's hotel stay was season 3, that was also my favourite part of that season, but the character of Kyle Singer and the ridiculous shooting of Tony in the neck that made no sense always places season 3 in the least amazing category for me.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:51 p.m. CST

    the seasons, in descending order of awesomeness ...

    by Toe Jam

    5, 3, 4, 1, 2

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:52 p.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    yeah i liked tony and could see myself enjoying the show w/ him if jack needed a break but now dunno. Regardless teh character deserved far better, the death was retarded as executed and for pete's sake so silent ticks. Chase upon hindsight was pretty cool too and thy just screwed that dude. Ep 6.4 might be up there w/ the best overall ep. Althought the Chapelle shooting is up there.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST

    season three is vastly underrated

    by Toe Jam

    it seems to always be fans' least or second-least favorite season, but people forget the prison break with salazar and the hotel lockdown, two of the best stretches of "24" ever. on the other hand, season three did have chase and claudia and her turd son.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Terri,Chappelle,Edgar getting the silent ticks and not

    by nalapou

    Tony was INFURIATING... ugggh... i almost forgot... that was a HUGE mistake... why'd you remind me? lol. 6.4 is definitely up there. Just shocking. Excellent.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 4:59 p.m. CST

    I did like season 3. but if you go back and watch

    by nalapou

    and keep in mind through the first 8 episodes or so that Tony and Jack were in on Hector Salazars plot all along, then they knew that Kyle Singer never had real virus on him. Meaning the retarded shower scene made no sense as well as the mall chasing of singer/shooting of Tony... It just annoying me. Kyle Singer is my least favourite 24 character ever. His existence made no sense. Overall season 3's high points (Hotel, Russian Roulette) were amazing though. Agreed there.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5 p.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    i hated the whole salazaar part thats what ruins seas 3 for me. I didn't like chase at first but when I rewatched seas3 I appreciated him more an nice that jack had a wingman. Marwan escaping upstairs ruins season 4. the potus and relative predicatibility of season 5 dismays me. I think season 2 is the most underrated. Surprisingly in Season 6 so far very little continuity or flaws really, pretty solid.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5 p.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    i hated the whole salazaar part thats what ruins seas 3 for me. I didn't like chase at first but when I rewatched seas3 I appreciated him more an nice that jack had a wingman. Marwan escaping upstairs ruins season 4. the potus and relative predicatibility of season 5 dismays me. I think season 2 is the most underrated. Surprisingly in Season 6 so far very little continuity or flaws really, pretty solid.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Season 5 just started in Germany

    by DerLanghaarige

    But Stephen King spoiled most of the season for me, when I was in Canada last year. Fuck him and Spoilerwarning-less Entertainment Weekly! *avoiding 24 talkback*

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:01 p.m. CST

    'guest starring'

    by tranpkp1

    does that mean you'll not be making the end of the show? :P

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:04 p.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    chepelles shooting was season 3 and chase hand cut too and admit it we all know jack would have sent Saunders' daughter into the infected hotel..... I went to grade school with Kyle Singer. Agree that two arcs mexico/hotel seems to be disconnected which is why S3 gets sub rating but hotel arc or 2nd 1/2 of season 3 are great.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes..

    by skydemon

    7 more days!!! I can't wait!!, I can't wait!!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Jack Is Fucking Back!

    by Jack_Bauer

    Welcome back, Count Bauer!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:14 p.m. CST

    did anyone else notice guest star

    by chewie_logan

    stephen merchant shows up at the 7-minute mark taking a paper from nadia. strange.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Season 3 is my fav.

    by BigTuna

    The final 6 hours are some of the best "24" ever. There's so much action and thrills. How it ended with Jack crying alone in the car was the best ending they've had for a season. And yes, that prison break was great. It had it's problems, but season 3 was action packed and had some amazing stretches.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Marisol Nichols... :)

    by TheSeeker7

    Mind you, I'm done watching this show because season 5 sealed its ridiculousness, but me lovey Marisol Nichols... yummy

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Of course I meant "trying very hard NOT to spoil" ...

    by Corwin_X2

    ... in my above post!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 5:56 p.m. CST

    not spoilery?????

    by Toe Jam

    corwin, that was rather spoilerific!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 6:10 p.m. CST

    24 starring the jerk Yale guy from Good Will Hunting


    Where the fuck did that guy resurface from? It's hard to buy him playing a menacing FBI agent or some shit. I remember that class, it was between recess and lunch. Anyway, I still say they blew an opportunity to have a cool season where Jack needs to escape China. And all he has to survive are his wits and skills. Spoiler----- 15 minutes into episode 1 and he's back...considering how he has single handedly saved the USA from terrorist attacks 5 times/5 years in a row, wouldn't he be worth whatever ransom the US paid. But no, instead they make him rot in a Chinese prison for 20 months until Joe the Muslim decides to ask for Jack's head as one of his demands. President Palmer ain't got no loyalty.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 6:34 p.m. CST

    The Chloe O'Brian Domination Presentation

    by Anakin Whoopass

    You early downloaders make me sick. Now, the most vital question: whether Chloe survives the day. The 24 Grim Reaper hardly has anybody else to choose from after last season's massacre.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:02 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    And most certainly, FUCK JACK BAUER!!! Tony should have been a equal or even the main guy by now, but nooooo. He gets axed in fucking ratings stunt in a fucking pathetic season of horseshit. Horseshit that a lot of people seemed to like the taste of. Season five? WE SNORT OVERSEAS!!!<br><br>...<br><br>Having said that, I can't wait for season six. ERIC BALFOUR GOTTA EAT!!!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:04 p.m. CST

    J. B. P. H.

    by Pound Sand

    Best show on the tube.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:12 p.m. CST

    ok a little bitchy spoiler here

    by Evil Hobbit

    episode 1 2 3 where fantastic, 1 indeed has the most insane Bauer kill ever but episode 4 will drive you crazy as to how insane it ends.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:17 p.m. CST

    testing paragraphs...

    by Starkers

    testing.. <br> testing... <br> testing!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Forget Almeida, I'm Still Mad About Michelle Dessler

    by tonagan

    I heart her. Now I see she's going to be in Aliens Versus Predator 2. I guess there is a fate worse than death...

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Believe it or not, AVP may not totally suck.

    by Shermdawg<br><br>These guys seem geeky enough to pull off a decent flick.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Hey Herc, what about Angel Season 1?

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Is that on sale too? Just wondering b/c 19.97 is an INSANE price for those box sets. I picked up all of the SG1 boxsets for 17.99 this past week. 1-9. CHEAP!!! If Angel is this cheap too, my god I'll need another bookcase!! AWESOME!!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Chloe Sullivan > Chloe O'brien

    by Shermdawg

    No contest. Spunk and cleavage beats out O'brien's tiresome sorry as fuck attitude.<br><br>...<br><br>Did I just say "Spunk and cleavage"???

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:40 p.m. CST

    And Season 5 Ripped off "The Five Doctors"

    by tonagan

    Watch that Dr. Who episode again. The similarities are creepy. Well, there are only two creepy similarities, the rest of the plot was ripped off by Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade :) By the way, you might be right about AVP2, Shermdawg. I'll wait to see how big Reiko Aylesworth's role is in it before I pass judgement.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:47 p.m. CST

    OK - since my post appears to have been nuked ...

    by Corwin_X2

    ... it obviously *was* too spoilery! Just want to say no offense taken - my bad for not getting the hint/hard-info balance wrong!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Wait, back up the truck, *beep,beep,beep*...

    by Shermdawg

    Did another person just mention Sutherland as Solid Snake??? Jesus Christ. Viggo is rumored to be a favorite of Kojima's, Holloway would be my pick, and a good percentage of people I've talked to want Bale. I could live with any of those, but Kief? No. Just no. Look past your Jack Bauer mancrush.<br><br>If he was casted, I hope John Carpenter does sue the bejesus out of Konami and prevents the flick from happening. Something that will most likely happen anyways.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 7:59 p.m. CST

    oh yeah and the score

    by tranpkp1

    when they got into the car in ep 4 that music was awesome

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8 p.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    I think this season of 24 explains Jericho....can i say crossover?

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Halfway through episode 3

    by GregoryHarbin

    HOLY CRAP SO GOOD<p> I waited to watch Season 5 all at once on DVD, and just finished yesterday. Thank goodness Day 6 is here or I'd be dying of anticipation.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Marisol Nichols!

    by Chadillac69

    I knew this gal somewhat (okay I drank beer with her in a bar a LOT- it's not like we exchanged Christmas cards!). She has talent and it's nice to see her on something that won't be cancelled in an episode (she was the blind cop's partner on that horrible show whose name I don't recall). So mad props to her and GO JACK GO!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:06 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    Blind Justice?

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Thoughts on S6 - No Spoilers

    by Starkers

    I'll keep this relatively Spoiler Free: <br> <br> First impressions were that season 6 was suffering the same problems as seasons 4 & 5. The writers are out of ideas and are simply covering old ground once again. CTU interpersonal bullshit preventing people from doing their Jobs - Check. The President's family stirring up shit and generally being a pain in the ass - Check. A Presidential adviser constantly at odds with and undermining the President - Check. Jack Bauer going "Rogue" and off grid - Check. The only initial highlights were Kieffer returning to his "Lost Boys" roots, a terrorist plot that is far more "low-tech", practical and realistic, and Jack showing the effects of being tortured for years in China - not dismissing them by the time episode 2 starts. <br> <br> Unfortunately the show seems alot more "preachy" then previous seasons. Sure in past seasons they have explored current issues and dilemmas facing the world, but in these early episodes it seems far more forced and unnatural to the characters. <br> <br> Best addition to the cast this season is Alexander Siddig (Kingdom of Heaven, Syriana). I'm pleased they didn't make his character a one dimensional villain like Marwan or Vladimir Bierko. He has brought a depth to his character in a short amount of time - hopefully he will be around for the long haul. <br> <br> I was skeptical that this season might be traveling down the same well worn, predictable, cliched path as Seasons 4 & 5 - which I rate as the two weakest seasons so far (my order goes 1,3,2,5,4 for those wondering). <br> <br> The final 10 minutes of 4th hour blows those notions out the window. This episode reminds me of previous high points such as the season 1 finale, the attack on CTU early in season 2 and the prison break episode and Chappel's death in season 3. There appears to be a clear predetermined plan and direction for season 6 at work - less making it up as they go - and for the first time in years I'm anxious to know what is going to happen next, cause I damn sure can't predict it. This setup has given "24" more potential then the program has shown in years. <br> <br> Jack is back indeed.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:11 p.m. CST

    I hope Mandy shows up

    by CTU Mole

    Love Mandy.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I still can't believe that Grazer wanted season two...

    by Shermdawg

    to be a adaptation of The DaVinci Code.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:27 p.m. CST


    by movieman742

    Returns in all it's glory. Ah Jack Bauer. I have to agree, the kill he has in the first episode tops even season 2's "I'm gonna need a hacksaw" kill.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Jack's gravitas es su gravitas.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Hell yeah. Welcome back, "24". It's time for Jack to bring the pain.<P>HERC & Co. - is this 6.1 Jack Bauer kill on par with the "Adama Atmo-FTL Maneuver"? Cause I'm of the opinion that the ol' Admiral set the Gravitas Bar VERY high with that one. Cheers!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:29 p.m. CST

    For tailhook - source of info - no copyright laws broke

    by Corwin_X2

    The first four episodes have indeed been illegally distributed on the web. Fox are releasing Eps1-4 on DVD in a couple of weeks and a copy got intercepted and posted on BitTorrent et al. However, and I speak as someone who used to work for a music copyright/revenue-collection organisation, merely hosting comments about those shows could not possibly be a breach of copyright on the part of AICN. For that to happen there would have to be downloadable copies of the episodes on the site or verbatim script transcripts. Links to the files could, possibly, also be problematical but you won't find those here either. The ethics of the people who posted the episodes, and indeed those like myself who have seen them, could legitimately be called into question. But no-one at AICN can be held liable - either legally or ethically. It's called free speech mate.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Episode 6.04

    by groinsniper

    Will blow your mind. I thought 6.01 was good but now I'm cursing myself for watching the first 4.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by triple-

    ok why even bother just reviewing 6-1? We all know everyone here saw 1-4 (and if you downloaded the dvd, the first act of episode 5.) So just spill it! Whats up with the next 3 episodes?

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:45 p.m. CST

    More like Twenty-Bore

    by SaluteYourShorts

    Let me guess what happens this season... something awful goes down in America involving a terrorist of some kind. Government calls upon a reluctant Jack Bauer. He agrees, only when he feels he has to. He begins to save the day. Twist here. Turn there. Jack must go outside the law. The Government suddenly doesn't trust Jack. Jack continues his cause, with the Government trying to stop him. A few people involved in CTU have faith in Jack. He continues his cause. Shooting here, death there. Jack saves the day. Government forgives him. Everyone's happy. Cliff hanger. Cue Season 7. Take it from the top. <Yawn> I'd rather watch repeats of Boy Meets World.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:47 p.m. CST

    24 is good, for one reason...

    by SaluteYourShorts

    It's good in helping put me to sleep.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:47 p.m. CST

    The best thing about 24

    by SaluteYourShorts

    Is the fact that it always manages to put me to sleep.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 8:58 p.m. CST

    For SaluteYourShorts - Yes and no

    by Corwin_X2

    Your synopsis is a reasonable description of the *first* episode. Then we move on from that!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:01 p.m. CST

    JACK SACK and Gunshelf in the Expedition...

    by grandadmiralsnackbar

    Needs to be back. By the way, Eric Balfour's death on the show will be welcomed, one less slack-jawed wigger to feed. I want an Edgar and his Mother Zombie tag-team to do the job.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:07 p.m. CST

    yup, first 4 eps rock

    by Jarek

    That is all.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Wow! Can you imagine if the fanboys had their way?

    by HellKing

    I remember when last season ended and continues on to this day, there was all this whining from the fanboys trying to make legal technicalities on how Jack was innocent of the death that resulted from his incursion into the Chinese consulate. Just imagine if the fanboys got their way, Jack wouldn't be the badass he sounds like he's going to be this season.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:26 p.m. CST

    More like Twenty-Snore

    by SaluteYourShorts

    Just got next season's storyline. Finally, they've moved on from the cliches!.....Jack Bauer is a cyborg from the year 6719 operating a controlled mission into the outer regions of star zone 8D. when chloe jacobson, a puddle of intelligent mud leftover from last century's Metal Wars (Metal Wars were a series of battles to see who in the twelve universes would control the newly rediscovered element of metal), figures out that Jack Bauer's past nemesis, Nina, has escaped from her isolation chamber (we learn more about this at the end of season 6) and genetically engineered her body to shape shift into a flying sphere at will (turns out she was never human to begin with, but rather the most advanced dinosaur on the planet). Now Jack has to deal with Nina while heading into star zone 8D to retrieve a delicate and deadly form of entertainment that combines light and hydrogen - and is the only thing that can stop a ruthless marine creature from rising to power in a distant land called Se - a land inhabited by Jack's new love interest, a 900 pound tree woman (half tree, half woman) named Belinda Charlotte Timewise.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Okay, where does one find 24 6.1- 6.4 on the internet?

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Is that where you guys got it from? Somebody enlighten me. Please.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:40 p.m. CST


    by GregoryHarbin

    K, watching these episodes ahead of time was SO not worth it. Now I have to wait two weeks to see what happens next.<p> The last act of 6.04 was BRUTAL.<p> Not quite Battlestar brutal, yet, but let's see what happens if this keeps up over the season.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:45 p.m. CST

    I really wish I enjoyed this show...

    by DanielKurland

    Well acted, directed, etc., but for whatever reason, it just kind of washes over me, and it's a shame because this next season sounds pretty good. I don't agree with Keifer winning best actor over Krause at the Emmys, but I can recognize why people like him. Maybe over the summer I'll try watching the entire series and my opinion will change.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 9:47 p.m. CST

    I will NOT read the inviso-text!

    by Russman

    I will not read it. No No No NO

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 10:05 p.m. CST

    it sounds like the plot is sufficiently outrageous...

    by samsquanch

    Hopefully the fanatsy will prevent any more mouthbreathers from claiming that 24 is a "realistic" show.... those were always my favorite posts.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I did not contract Aids by the way.

    by Shermdawg

    Sorry to let down whoever that was that wished that upon me in the season five finale talkback.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Found a photo of Keifer with new look

    by SaluteYourShorts

    I'm not sure what his new look is about, but I'm wondering if this is for Jack Bauer later in the season? Check it out (and hmmm, wonder if that season 4 name tattooed on his shoulder gives us a hint of what's to come...) ******************Possible Spoiler Warning************************

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Alexander isn't his name... its Siddig!!!

    by Russman

    And he's a damn good actor. I'm sure we all remember him from DS9.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 11:01 p.m. CST


    by Alex Childress

    Okay, someone be the bad guy and direct me where I can find 6.1! I can't wait!

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 11:02 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg<br><b>Hopefully he'll post more.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Chinese Prison Jack Bauer Gotta Eat

    by mrtwig48

    Somebody would of said it.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 11:11 p.m. CST

    New favorite band.

    by gonzoletters

    Count Jackula and the Jacksacks *tm.

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 11:14 p.m. CST

    help please

    by knowledge1027

    i'am begging someone tell me where to see the first four ep. please

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 11:18 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    FOX, FOOL! ;)

  • Jan. 7, 2007, 11:47 p.m. CST

    san antonio

    by Holodigm


  • Jan. 8, 2007, 12:18 a.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    he's kinda weird but yeah hes good. man DS9 was good...

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 12:20 a.m. CST

    24 best show on tv right now.

    by LeviDTinker

    Ive been a huge 24 fan since we had a promotional 24 hour marathon screening of season one in sept 2005, (when the show went into syndication) at Graumans Chinese theatre. I never saw the show before that and i was blown away watching it up there on the screen in theatre 6,i didnt fall asleep or doze off once durring the entire marathon. it wasnt the same watching it on a dink 30 in tv set compared to a 50 ft movie screen. but still great watching seasons 2 through 4 on dvd. last season was great(the first time i attempted to watch it all the way through on tv) Now iam super psyched for season 6 cause it has a awesome supporting cast. (alexander)Siddig El Fadil, who was one of my favorite actors on DS9, Marisol Nichols(my favorite audry of the vacation movies) James Cromwell(awesome actor and just allround cool person) and many more. and the second reason iam psyched for season 6, is i get to watch it on my brand new toshiba DLP home theatre projector. cant wait till next sunday it will be great!!!!

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 12:46 a.m. CST


    by Darth_Gonz

    The end of episode 4, the city of Los Angeles is leveled by a nuclear device detonated by a suicide bomber. GRAVITAS, indeed.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Um, aren't we now on episode 6.4!? Major spoiler!

    by WOPR

    At least that's the material available for download on the internet right now, so I've been told. I almost quit watching 24 as season 5 just was populated with so more unlikey twists, turns, surprises and enterprising coincidences than a Tara Conner slumber party. ****Begin MAJOR spoiler**** Do you people recall all those episodes, two in fact, where the terrorist-devised plot device was in the form of an ill gotten nuclear device? Well such is the case here with the unexpected twist that a suitcase nuke is actually detonated in Velincia, CA. Come on, I mean, really. The terrorists are located and SWAT converge on there location and commence to mowing all the terrorists down except one who *just* manages to detonate the nuke just before he dies? Give me a fucking break. ****end MAJOR spoiler**** And I'm really getting tired of the supercilious and arrogant morality lectures that Mizzz. Palmer seems to dole out in spades every time she opens her piehole. Perhaps someone would like to remind Mizzzz Palmer and other civil right "proponents" that if they continue to be successful in managing to protect non-state actors and terrorist agents by virtue of hiding them behind perverted interpretations of protection granted under the constitution and they are successful in achieving a catastrophic attack, then the president will, in all likelihood, supsend habeous corpus, suspend the constitution as per his authority, and implement martial law. Anyways, given that President Palmer has already capitulated to the demands of the Islamic terrorists and violated the cardinal policy of not negotiating with terrorists and giving into their demands, he might as well save the terrorists the trouble and start killing innocent US citizens since his buckling to the terrorists' threats is equivalent to announcing open season on all Americans by Islamic fascists and other anti-freedom elements.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:15 a.m. CST

    For those asking (begging) above how to find Eps1-4

    by Corwin_X2

    First decide that you're prepared to break or at least bend the law. That's not preaching on my part - I made my choice and have seen them. But understand that that's what you'll be doing. Then find a BitTorrent client, work out how to use it, work out how to configure the firewall on your PC and how trackers work. Alternatively, order the DVD that Fox are releasing next week.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:26 a.m. CST

    For tailhook - see my post immediatly above

    by Corwin_X2

    The people who posted the episodes committed a crime. Anyone who downloaded them at least bent the law (depending on their local laws). I simply pointed out that Harry, Herc et al are not responsible if those persons then post their comments about those episodes here. Look at it this way - can you tell me which of the comments posted in this talkback about Eps1-4 come from people who downloaded the episodes and which ones have come from people who have been sent legitimate preview copies? No? Didn't think so.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:29 a.m. CST


    by Wed Vid Guy

    Watched the first four eps in one gulp and I think this tops the first four eps of Season Five which were also damn good. The one thing I found funny was that Jack's problem is that he's become a little more human and not sadistic as he used to be. What's funnier is that there are people encouraging him to get back to being a torturing bad-ass again.****** A good example being Jack saying "I don't think I can do this any more" and Bashir saying " It'll come back" with a sympathetic look. One development that I like is how fucked up Jack is this season. Especially at the end of episode 4.********Great start this season. Can't wait to see more.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:29 a.m. CST

    When is the 24 S6 DVD Boxset coming out?

    by Mace Tofu

    I hate the wait each week so I waited to see S5 after the DVD came out and watched it in 2 days. Guess I'll have to watch the first 4 of this season as the spoilers will be leaking all over this site. JBPH rules! Harry I thought this new Democratic Congress was going to work harder for the people but after one week on the job they are taking a Vacation Day this Monday? So much for the 5 day week they promised to work just last week. I wish we had a Jack Bauer working for US but we get the Sandy Bergers lol

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Also for tailhook - law and jurisdictions

    by Corwin_X2

    Since you seem bent on quoting the law you should do some reading regarding jurisdictions. In your analogy you state that going with a hooker is illegal. Actually, it's only illegal (a misdemeanor) in the United States. In the UK it's completely legal - soliciting on the other hand is illegal. In many countries both are either legal or illegal. In the US, laws differ across State lines. So tell me - what law are you alleging that AICN has broken? BTW I'm a UK citizen and have no affiliation with AICN. But I do work for a law firm.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Vampire Jack Gotta Eat

    by rosasaks

    Loved the way the season starts with a villain confessing the nefarious truth to our captive hero instead of just fucking killing him, thus giving him plenty of time to escape by means of his deadly vampire bite. Usually adventure stories save this melodramatic chestnut for the grand finale, so it was inspired and very satisfying to see it done as the opening act. Utterly ludicrous of course that the terrorists of doom interrupted their big day to request a special audience with Chinese Jack - anybody would think they want to get caught - but who would have it any other way? Following up that death of Curtis with the mushroom cloud in the same bloody episode was unspeakably all manner of awesome. High hopes for this season then, I do believe. I wonder what twists of fate do await. Alexander Siddig looks to be a grand addition, and Carlo Rota is funny too. And looking forward to the return of Logan, hopefully still squirrelly as hell.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Copyrights and whatnot...

    by Valebant

    Not to be another legal expert with nothing better to do, but... I think law and ethics are getting confused. Unethical to report illegally obtained information, MAYbe. Plausible legal action? Nah. Fox couldn't care less and they couldn't prove damages to claim any sort of relief even if they did care. By the way, solicitation is a crime in the States as well (with rare exceptions). Also, the prostitution analogy doesn't really work. Copyright infringement is a violation of federal law. Even if it were not, the Full Faith and Credit Clause is always in force. (Sure, there are state anti-piracy laws, but they just mimic federal law already in force which preempts state law).

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Lost Boy

    by Mastidon

    *SPOILER* Ok, my biting commentary How do you escape from being tied to a chair? That's the moment I knew Jack was back. Best Bauer kill by far. Ep 4 is insane. Had to get the DVD just to catch the first 10 mins of EP 5. Needed to know what it would take to get Jack back into the game....WOW. Only 14 days until the rest of Ep 5. I think I can wait that long but sure would be nice if FOX decided to sell another DVD set!

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 3:28 a.m. CST

    A word on piracey

    by Mastidon

    I would have GLADLY paid to download the preview DVD and I will buy S6 DVD when its available. The real reason many of us have downloaded it instead of buying is that it simply is not available to us as we are not press and we NEED our Jack Bauer NOW damnit! If FOX posted a link to buy the DVD and view it online right now, I would have gladly done that instead of downloading.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 4:08 a.m. CST

    They could Presell the S6 DVD and give the 4 EP Disc

    by Mace Tofu

    as the bonus now and you get the set later in the year at BestBuy. All this 24 talk has me wanting some new 24 asap. The season 6 trailer is up on YouTube but no S6 shows ....yeah I checked lol

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 4:12 a.m. CST

    Cannot friggin' wait

    by DirkD13"

    Is there still the legend that is Aaron Pierce? He's as much 24 as Jack Bauer by now. He really should get his own spin-off show 24:Secret Service. Anyone know when Sky One got this??

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 4:51 a.m. CST

    They're only noodles, Michael........

    by Doc_Strange

    Kiefer just kicks ass in anything he's in be it vampire or government agent.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 5:28 a.m. CST

    This will be like buffy

    by emeraldboy

    In that once fox knows whats going on. they will get the lawyers. just like what with the buffy-script-leakers on the net.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 5:40 a.m. CST

    You know what the fucked up thing is...

    by moviemaniac-7

    ... I am leaving for India on Saturday to backpack for six months or so... No 24 for me in that time. Although the in-between-day-5-and-6 was quite weak (the first one, leading up to season 4 was the best), the endig of Day 5 was f***ing awesome.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Hey! This talkback just became the top story on FARK

    by Mace Tofu

    Must be a slow news day over there.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 6:20 a.m. CST

    not only pirates have seen the epsiodes

    by giger167

    I got the retail 24 season 6 premier dvd, and imported it to the Uk, and still got it on Saturday through a reputeable dvd dealer. Lots of firms offer dvds before the street dates. Why presume everyone who has seen the four eps has downloaded them. A one minute google search will find you any number of dealers selling the dvd. Ok it may have been slightly immoral of the firm to sell the dvd before the street date, but FOX did send the dvds out so it was bound to happen. Anyways, FOX have had my dollars for the dvd It's not like I illegally obtained it and robbed them :)

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 6:56 a.m. CST

    So to recap:

    by Ricky Henderson

    When Jack Bauer is out of the United States, terrorists pretty much take over the country? That's fantastic. God I love this show. It's killing me, but I'm waiting until Sunday for this so I can see it with friends in HD.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Chloe publicly forced to deny banging Rush.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Chloe was forced to state she never was banging Rush. People tend to miss the fact that 24 is a very liberal show. Every twist and turn of every season is meant to illustarte just how truly bad Bushco and it's corporate pals really are. <p> Jacks torture sessions reflect the current mindset except Jack seems to have a conscience. The sheer beauty of the show is it's chameleon like ability to be perceived as a right wing nut fest.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 7:26 a.m. CST

    I can't wait for this

    by just pillow talk

    The only freak'n show I follow, the only one I need to follow. I need my crack! Now dammit!

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 7:57 a.m. CST

    only one question...

    by dread pirate roberts

    where is the mighty JACK SACK?!?!?

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Yes, where is the Jack Sack?

    by Ricky Henderson

    And does it still have its own theme song when Jack whips it out?

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:16 a.m. CST

    how can liberals

    by ZO

    watch this show? it goes against everything they endlessly preach.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:25 a.m. CST

    ZO, Just the opposite

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Keep in mind Southerland is a liberal and creator of the show. 24 creates a scenario that reflects the world around us. It what could happen if power mad people with no safeguards or moral compass were in charge. Many of the themes are deep attacks on present US politics. <p> The biggest problem is most people do not appreciate the subtlety with which the various memes are presnted. Oil guys tried to kill the president. The president created a 911 event. Bad actors in the shadows maipulate the government. Jesus don't we read about this everyday? <p> The show is definitely a liberal slanted device.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:27 a.m. CST

    won't be watching anything tonight on account of

    by white owl

    THE NATIONAL FUCKING CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. I hope Florida rips Ohio State's throat out and feeds it to the gators. Hey... gators gotta eat, right? :\

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:31 a.m. CST

    the Jack Sack

    by thefreeagents

    Thats what I'm wondering, is the Jack Sack going to make an appearance and when does Aaron Pierce arrive? Let the Jack Bauer Power Hour commence!

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Message to FOX

    by talkbackgeek

    Now that its out let it stay out. Don't pull it from the net. This is the best advertising your gonna get. I never watched 24 but after reading this story and talkback, you can sure bet I'm gonna start with season 6.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Ok: ZO and EvilWizard, you two are idiots.

    by Ricky Henderson

    Stop reading politics into 24. The show is like baseball--its apolitical. Besides, its too goddmaned awesome for you two to be arguing politcs over. The show doesn't have any political slant whatsoever. It's just an idealized depiction of crime fighting government employees. Oil tycoons trying to kill the president isn't a liberal thought. The president creating a 911 like event isn't a liberal thesis either. Shadowy figures maipulating the government aren't liberal ideas. They're all radical nut-job conspiracy theories. Not liberal tenants you freaking dolts. Got it? Morons.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Herc, or anyone else who has seen this...

    by Ricky Henderson

    whither the Jack Sack?

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Best Jack Bauer kill ever? Really?

    by -guyinthebackrow

    Is it better than the "running-up-the-wall-and-breaking-neck-manuever"?

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Tailhook, you really think Fox didn't want piracy?

    by eg4190

    Having the four episodes leak online a week early helps build buzz. Just look at all the favorable reviews on this talkback calling it one of the best season openings. That's the whole reason they sent the DVD out. Also, keep in mind that the average torrent downloader has an HDTV, which means this will have a negligible impact on ratings -- most geeks will re-watch the broadcast in HD. If you honestly think that Fox wasn't well aware the episodes would be on BitTorrent within hours, you're an idiot.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 9:37 a.m. CST

    paulh - in bizarro world

    by just pillow talk

    While a pretty damn good team, they could never hack it over a full season playing the big boys. I for one was glad they beat Oklahoma. I think they would lose 2 - 3 games a year in a major conference, just the nature of the beast. And Fla will win, OSU is overrated, there is no dominant team this year. Just ask Michigan if they still feel like they are the number 2 team in the country.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by Sledge Hammer

    ...if you haven't seen these episodes yet. This is *not* a show you want spoiled for you ahead of time, trust me. Besides, this talkback is going to get less and less fun now that the predictable wave of 24 haters has shown up, so it's not like you're missing anything not being here.<p> SPOILERS - RUN AWAY ALREADY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!! I knew that that death was going to happen, given the demotion down the credit list, which telegraphed the fuck that it was going to be a bad day for that character, and probably sooner rather than later. Granted I didn't know how it was going to happen, but I knew it was going to happen, so they really should have been smarter than that, it would have had even more impact that way. They kind of shot themselves in the foot a bit there.<p>Still, regardless, episodes 1 and 4 were spectacular, and 2 & 3 were top notch 'filler' eps, so we're off to one hell of a start. The pain of waiting two weeks for the next episode begins...

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Roger Cross

    by jtp8000

    Guess his listing as a guest star does not bode well for him. Can't wait to see what Bad Chloe does.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Bauer

    by uss cygnus

    The best Jack Kill is the final episode of season two at the L.A. Coliseum where he snaps the neck of bad guy by the running up the wall headlock..."I'm going to need a hacksaw" and the "Murder" of Sayed Ali's family via DirecTV is a close second. Oh, and if they kill Jack, they kill the show. They kill Jack, and I will never watch another episode unless we actually find out he's been "David" from "The Lost Boys" all along.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I refuse to believe Tony is dead

    by macgruder

    His death on the show last season was lame, no silent ticks, no crying from Jack, they just threw the blanket over him and pulled him away. This leads me to beleve he isnt dead. They will pull him back midseason i hope to save jack's ass. Even Entertainment Weekly's 24 guide this week states that he was injected in the 'collateral damage' section of the the guide, while everyone else in that section had the words dead or killed noted in their brief summary. I refuse to believe it. Hes the backbone of the show, he could be the star if Kiefer left. Let Tony live for god's sake! If they were to kill him off, dont give him a lame death where Robocop sticks him with a needle.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Sledge -

    by just pillow talk

    That's why I just read quickly over what Herc wrote, ignoring the ivsotext, and then just post about college football or some other nonsense that has nothing to do with this fuck'n rocking show. I sure as hell don't want to know what is going to happen. They should just film 4 seasons in a row and then we wouldn't have to be without it for like a year or so. But I guess the 'withdrawal' would be too much to handle.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:06 a.m. CST

    macgruder - I thought he did end up shedding some tears

    by just pillow talk

    just not right after 'ol eye patch bit it. It was, however, a very unceremoniously end to a great character of the show.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Peter MacNichol???!

    by mr. brownstone

    Nooooooooooooooo! The most irritating actor on the face of the earth. But I guess if he is playing an antagonist it'll work. I mean really work. Here's hoping he gets offed quick.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:51 a.m. CST


    by mr. brownstone

    do you drool when you talk?

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson, Read it and weep my stinky bitches

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Obviously you have been smoking crack. So I'll enlighten you a bit <p> <p> "The show's liberal-left politics probably also appeal to Kiefer, given the radical backgrounds of his parents. His mother, the Canadian actress Shirley Douglas, is the daughter of Tommy Douglas, founder of Canada's New Democratic Party, first socialist premier of Saskatchewan and the father of Canada's Medicare program. Although Kiefer was born in London in 1966, where his unknown dad was eking out a living in interestingly titled movies like Die! Die! My Darling! and Dr Terror's House of Horrors, he grew up mainly in Toronto and Ottawa, where his politically active mother took him and his twin sister Rachel on their first demonstration aged six. He grew up with tear gas in his nostrils." <p> Keifer in the John Mclane of liberals. I bet he grew up singing Joe Hill and we shall overcome. <p> <p> OPINION: Mustn't See Liberal TV "Fox's "24" is the boldest of the bunch, going so far as to portray a Muslim family as a terrorist sleeper cell in last season's story line. But between star Kiefer Sutherland's politically correct public service announcements and the season's conclusion (which shifted the blame from jihadists onto Chinese diplomats and various Westerners), viewers hungry for true "reality television" were left disappointed once again. While the examples above are just a sampling of what's available on television today, there's more than enough thinly disguised propaganda out there to drive the point home. And audiences are taking notice. Eventually, declining viewership and escalating criticism may remind television producers that there's more to television than pushing a political agenda. Until that time comes, those who seek thought-provoking entertainment rather than indoctrination will just have to turn elsewhere. ' <P> Right wingers think it's liberal. AND POLITICAL with it's own AGENDA! <p> To drive the point home <p>,,1811746,00.html <p> "He describes his politics as 'liberal, with common sense'; his mother, actress Shirley Douglas, was the daughter of Tommy Douglas, leader of Canada's New Democratic party, 'the first socialist to come to power in North America', as Sutherland proudly describes him." <p> Only the stupid forget it is FAUX News that is rabidly a chariciture of a conservative image. Fix channel is consistently LIBERAL. Ever watch the Simpsons? Or damn near any hot steamy Fox sex show? Murdoch plays both side sofr maximum profit. It works for him.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 11:32 a.m. CST

    We need Creasy Bear!

    by uss cygnus

    How about Denzel Washington as fellow CTU agent John Creasy? Or, Jack himself finally snaps... Let's let the 2nd half of the new season be like the last hour of "Man On Fire". "I got all the time in the world. YOU don't but I do." Let's see Bashir strapped to the hood of his car with an ass full of C4. "I had...more time." *BOOM* Orgasmic television, I tell ya.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:04 p.m. CST

    This has absolutely nothing to do with 24 but...

    by skimn

    ...has ANYONE seen last week's airing of "Afro Samauri" on Spike???!!!!! It was very cool and suprisingly violent for basic cable, and of course, Samuel MF Jackson!!!! Wheres the love???Wheres the talkback???? Even IGN reviewed it and gave it 8 out of 10....cmon Herc or Quint..where are you guys??

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Thats great EvilWizard, but....

    by Ricky Henderson

    ...cutting and pasting someone's blog into an AICN talkback doesn't really make your opinion any more valid or well thought out. I know that conspiracy nuts like you would like to believe otherwise, but there's no political slant in 24. Trying to prove that there is is comparable to writing a dissertation on Super Mario Brothers. Please stop, ok? You're hurting my head. Ow.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Marisol Nichols

    by cornstalkwalker

    Hottest Audrey of all time. She sure has aged well. honk honk!!!!!

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 2:36 p.m. CST

    ppl who are looking for a "slant", or an "agenda",

    by samsquanch

    will find it whatever side of the fence they're on. I'm not sure that 24 has some fiendish secret plot to turn us into right/left (take your pick) zombies, what I see is a fantasy show that does suspense well. It uses as it's backdrop whatever happens to be agitating the American psyche at the time, whether it's anxiety about an untrustworthy, incompetent leader, mistrust of muslim americans as "the enemy within", dirty bombs, torture, another 9/11, etc. etc. etc. Basically, the show is a wet dream for anyone in this country that believes everything they read and see on tv, and lies awake at night worrying about whether they have enough duct tape in the house. People like that populate both sides of the political spectrum to an unfortunate degree. <p> The show is still great fun, just don't get too caught up in it, ok? It's just a show.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Two things about Tony's death...

    by Sledge Hammer

    Personally I liked it, and I'll tell you why. Because it was out of left fiend, it wasn't a hero's death, it wasn't a moment of glory, he couldn't bring himself to murder Weller and potentially fuck the country in doing so, and that moment of weakness and distraction got him killed. He was a great character, but I appreciate that his death wasn't a predictable heroic blaze of glory type act. <p>Anyway, those two things: One, Jack cradled Tony in his arms and was clearly crying and shaken by what had happened to Tony as that episode ended. And Two, I definitely noticed the fact that he didn't get a silent ending the way Edgar had in the end of that episode, but my theory on that is that Tony wasn't shown to be definitively dead until the start of the next episode so maybe they were trying to leave it as a cliffhanger "is he or isn't he really dead" type thing, and a lack of ticks would have betrayed that from having any hope of leaving anyone wondering if Tony wass really dead or not. And I do remember at the time some people weren't convinced that Tony was really dead after that episode aired (though gotta say he looked pretty damn dead to me, and if that was the reason, I don't think it worked very well). Just a thought anyhow.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 3:37 p.m. CST

    the creators of the show are staunch conservatives ...

    by Toe Jam

    at least, that's what i've read in interviews and articles. as for kiefer, i'm not sure. i imagine he's more the libertarian type, seeing as how he's both a cowboy at heart and an "artist."

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 4 p.m. CST

    Politics & 24

    by Mastidon

    Why do you even care? What matters is how many people Jack can kill this season, not if they are Dems or Reps. The point is let the blood flow on the Jack Bauer Power Hour, nothing else. Entertainment at its finest.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 5:37 p.m. CST

    The following takes place between DOROTHY'S TAINT

    by S-Mart shopper

    Sorry, had to do it.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 6:04 p.m. CST


    by DynamixRo


  • Jan. 8, 2007, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Curtis is the real hero

    by samsquanch

    He shrugs off bullets like flies and kicks ass in every scene he's in. If Curtis shows up, you know there's gonna be trouble.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 6:19 p.m. CST


    by lostbat

    Somebody should bite you in the neck DynamixRo.....

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 7:21 p.m. CST

    It's great but...

    by LittleDudes middle-easterns need to be the enemy again? Would've been nice to see the Chinese as the bad dudes. Then again, 24 is not one to reveal the "main baddy" so quickly.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 7:34 p.m. CST


    by Phimseto

    How is it I keep running into contentious points with you on these boards?!? Anyways, I'm just starting episode 3, but my first observation is that the 24 writers must have attended the same Aaron Sorkin writing seminar that the BSG writers did. The show is pretty whizbang so far (go, Doctor Bashir!), but anytime they start to discuss ethical views, it's like a jr. high class debate on political issues - heavy-handed, terribly shallow, and full of more perposterous stereotypical characters than "Snakes on a Plane." If "Children of Men" had a major flaw, it was that Cuaron occasionally delved into the visual tic version of these dialogues. The difference is that "Children of Men" ultimately left enough greys and enough questions for the viewer to observe for themselves and take something from the experience. So far, every time 24 rests on its plot to move forward, it has been great. Every time it stops to have these poor man's talking points dialogues, it veers into the "West Wing" post-9/11 episode territory. Groan.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:56 p.m. CST


    by samsquanch

    Not sure what exactly it is that you're finding contentious, my post was for some of the folks who are reading a little too much into the plot of 24... aren't we making the same point? I haven't seen Children of Men yet, but I hear it's pretty fun. <p> p.s.- Unless you're referring to my other post, and you DON'T think that Curtis is a badass...

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 8:57 p.m. CST


    by samsquanch

    sorry, I keep mispelling your name...

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Well that was interesting

    by Phimseto

    Just finished the last two episodes. Despite my complaints earlier, I do love the people they cast in these shows, a lot of great character actors. However, a couple of things consistently bug me about 24. One of which is the complete ineptitude of the tactical teams. Presuming they have SWAT or military training (or both), they are consistently worse than keystone cops. I get that we need some dramatic licence, but really. The other thing that bugs me is the way that people stand around and go "eek" when the terrorists are doing their thing. First with the train bomb and then the father boo-hooing when the guy is painfully, slowly staggering for the suitcase. Since 9/11, there have been lots of stories of people stepping into those situations when the occur, not standing by and panicking. As for Curtis, well...f him. I'm waiting for them to bring back Tony. He ain't dead, same as Dumbledore. You heard it here first.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 9:08 p.m. CST


    by Phimseto

    Children of Men is excellent. It felt like watching a Kubrick film (his later compelling/messy/imperfect films), which made me happy since, well...I miss Stanley Kubrick films. Plus, I've been on the Clive Owen bandwagon since Croupier.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 9:50 p.m. CST

    why in the fuck

    by readyoufool

    can't anyone properly encode 24 episodes? every time i download them there are 3 out of 4 that play all slow and shitty and out of sync.

  • Jan. 8, 2007, 10:37 p.m. CST

    i refuse to read any of the talkbacks out of fear

    by reckni

    and i cannot wait until jack returns on sunday, four hours of glorious CTU ass kicking! when is jack gonna break down and make sweet love to chloe? she'd probably taser me.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, midnight CST

    Grimlock would own Jack, Yack!

    by S-Mart shopper

    Yeah, and Nacho Libre was funny...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 12:24 a.m. CST

    stop attacking herc for 'piracy'

    by GregoryHarbin

    If Herc had downloaded 24, he'd've gone ahead and reviewed the whole thing. I imagine what happened was that Fox sent him the first episode or more, as they do with most critics (I'm sure Michael Ausiello has seen them).<p> On another note, I only download things that I can't otherwise buy. I will get the S6 DVD set the moment it's streeted. Is it unethical to download the episodes before Fox wants them aired? Possibly, but since they're getting my money, and the fact that I'm advertising this show to everyone I talk to, I don't really feel sorry for them.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Sticky labels.

    by Valebant

    I don't think Ain't It Pirated News really makes sense. If it is news, then news is fact and cannot be copyrighted and thus not pirated (even INS v. AP agreed to that, screwy case that it is... always a Brandeis fan). However, if it is the thoughtful production of another it may be misappropriated and falls under unfair competition. In any event, news can't be pirated. Even if Herc's article could be considered piracy (from the vantage point that he often quotes from the show) he is certainly protected by the doctrine of Fair Use. Even unpublished works can be quoted in a review like Herc's. Anyhow... maybe Ain't It Misappropriated News or Ain't It Illegitimately Obtained News or... Ain't It Cribbed News if you like AICN. Just not Pirated. If it must be "Pirated" then maybe "Ain't It Cool News Of Pirated Imprints, Recordings And Torrented Episodes."

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 3:32 a.m. CST

    I remember this site before twats like tailhook

    by CTU Mole

    When the site actually had news, most of which shadily obtained, as opposed to whatever was on or last night's Entertainment Tonight. There weren't a lot of questions about how they got the news. Now the RIIA and MPA have people so brainwashed that they're parroting their bullshit and lecturing others. It's gotten to the point where I can't have a taped show on in front of more than 3 people or FFW through the commercials with out looking out the window for Mulder and Scully. The episodes are going to be on in a few days, on a free, broadcast station, no less. Chill the fuck out.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Sure sure...

    by Valebant

    Well, I am only saying that nothing from Herc's post indicates he committed any crime. I certainly wouldn't fire him for reviewing pirated footage. I watched "illegal" footage of Saddam's execution the other day via a link on Fox News. Not too long ago it was an illegal video of a live performance at a comedy club by Michael Richards (certainly a copyright violation). Again, even if the material hasn't been published, a reviewer, such as Herc, may be protected by fair use. As a side note, plot points may not even be an issue of copyrights, but trade secrets or rights in ideas. If an employee of Coca-Cola accidentally left the recipe for Merchandise 7X lying around I could legally publish it and make the product, I just couldn't call it Coke... but I could advertise: "Compare to the flavor of Coke!" U.S. law loves competition (and we get in trouble in Europe because of it).

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 4:51 a.m. CST

    The following rant takes place between "WTF" and "BFD"

    by Colegegraduit

    What’s really upsetting me about this talkback is that at its core it is a petty attempt to get web page hits, and nothing more. Look: AICN has always had articles that were informative regardless of how seedy the source. Yet here’s the trick, slick: those articles were: *informative*!!! Articles *worth* looking at are… i-n-f-o-r-m-a-t-i-v-e. So: what have we learned here? That Hercules knows what happens in the first four episodes and you don’t, sucks to be you, and don’t worry, you don’t want it spoiled anyway. Oh, but Herc will allow us lowly commoners spoilers such as this: one of the lead characters “does something really bad”…!!! Really? Oh, thank you, kind sir. I thought I was about to see season six of a fracking sitcom made by the fracking Farrelly brothers if not for your spoiling that someone on *Twenty*-*Fracking*-*Four* does something [gasp] …bad! Oh, yeah: and “Jack wasn’t well treated” by the people who kicked his ass in the cliffhanger, just in case you’re a fracking retard who thought he got back rubs in Asia from his own harem of Grace Park Cylons or something. Oh, but there’s more…! 19 pages of talkback later(!): What have we learned from the studio plants…err, “pirates,” who saw the same episode? That Jack kills someone…and how he does it is soooo coooool! Whoa; slow down there, chiefs! Let me get my notepad; this is some heavy stuff. Oh…that’s right! No it isn’t! Is there a quartet of consecutive episodes IN ANY SEASON, where Jack does *not* kill at least one totally inept asshole?!? Give. Me. A. Break!!! Take your cheap studio plugs, lick them, and stick them, along with your finger, in the nearest wall socket. Which is to say: either give real spoilers for a real article, or give us all a break and WAIT for a week like the rest of us, until we can have a "REAL" 24 talkback. See you then.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:30 a.m. CST


    by Valebant

    there are spoilers from talkbackers, if that's any solace. One thing I read elsewhere sounds like a pretty stupid plot point (stop watching type stupid) and I hope it isn't true, though the rest of what they said seems confirmed. Guess I'll have to wait and see.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one that laughed when..

    by estacado

    Biting a guys neck off is just ridiculous. I mean, come on. You expect us to actually take this shit? It really sets the tone on how "out there" this season is going to be. Just finished the 2nd episode. My prediction: Jack will die this season, Assad will take his place next season.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 5:59 a.m. CST


    by rhaps0dy

    Someone may of mentioned this i'm not sure but didn't fancy reading any of the above comments in case i catch a spoiler! Anyways, why the hell is Roger Cross(Curtis) only guest starring surely curtis has gained enough 24 episodes under the belt to be in the main credits??

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 8:18 a.m. CST


    by GregoryHarbin

    You're just so happy with your clever title you've made up, aren't you?<p> Why don't you try to discuss the topic at hand. If Herc is doing something wrong, and Fox has a problem with it, it will be handled between the two of them. You've got nothing to do with it.<p> The term is 'all rights reserved,' which means they CAN come down on pirates if they want. It doesn't mean that the FBI will be at my, or in theory Herc's, door tomorrow.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Tailhook - funny dude

    by gadlaw6

    You're almost as funny as when you're standing on that street corner with the sign that says "Sinner Repent!" If it bothers you that folks are discussing a couple of episodes of 24 that leaked to the internet early, which by the way is creating a nice buzz for the show, you should exercise your right to leave and go find a nice discussion about the latest broadcast episode of Hannah Montana on the Disney Channel. I think in the last episode they discuss how you can earn your RIAA/MPAA/Boy Scout Merit Badge against copyright infringement by making inappropriate comments on a discussion board. Good news for you since I believe your merit badge is on it's way. As long as you aren't gay, an atheist or a commie that is. As for 24, man I hadn't watched a single episode until last year they had that two hour premiere and I was sort of ironing in front of the tv and got hooked. Curse you four hour leaked preview for making me a prisoner to broadcast tv for another year.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit! Awesome! (spoilers)

    by moviemaniac-7

    Yes, people, as written above: the makers of '24' nailed it again. If this is the tone of the rest of the season, then seasons 2 and 5 (my personal favourites) will are placed back to second and third. The first four hours might be the best so far, over all the seasons. I can believe that Fox is pissed about this leaking onto the internet, but they may know now that they have solid gold in their hands (although it wouldn't be the first time Fox knows this and manages to fuck up... coughserenitycough...). The last Bauer bit of the first hour was cool, but the ending of the fourth hour is brilliant! I wonder how far they are going... And Manning getting Jack's bullet... wow... Didn't see that one coming. It appears that there is no job more dangerous than working on Jack's side (Nina, Chase, Mason, etc. Okay, Nina had it coming...). The Bauer hour is back.

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Just saw 6.1...

    by Uga

    All the damn vampires!

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 9:25 p.m. CST

    My predictions for this season

    by Alonzo Mosely

    1) Aaron Pierce will be protecting President Palmer, and will make a phone call to the former Mrs. Logan saying she will have to wait to have her secrets serviced as he is busy today...<p> 2) Weasel McWeasel advisor guy will be removed from office and replaced by the hardest working man in politics MIKE NOVIK.<p> 3) Milo will be a mole, I mean his name is an anagram of moli, which is Italian for mole. OK, I made that up, but still, there is bound to be a mole and it can only be him or Chloe's ex-husband/current fuck-buddy.<p> 4) Either Bill Buchanon or his wife will be endagered, and the other one will need to make a decision that places their life in jeopardy for the common good.<p> 5) Audrey will show up and be kidnapped by terrorists within 2 hours of her arrival.<p> 6)Ex-President Logan will have an important piece of information that could save thousands of lives, but is so damn evil that he will want something in return for it.<p> 7) We will never find out what the "heavy price" Palmer paid for Jack's return, even though it is a great get out of jail back-up plan for later in the season.<p> 8) We will also not find out what was really up with the bluetooth group/Logan evilness was really all about.<p> 9)Herc will use the word 'cavorting' multiple times in his 24 posts this season.<p> 10)Jack will have a break down and some point and give up on trying to stop the bad guys and go visit his dad, who runs a farm with talking pigs on it...

  • Jan. 9, 2007, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Actually, CTU Mole...

    by Phimseto

    ...I've been with the site since...honestly I can't remember 96-97, but pretty early on and I definitely remember there being at least one period where the issue of piracy and the Harry write-ups and script reviews were contentious. If the search feature works, you should go back and look. I'm pretty sure Harry had at least a couple of columns where he addressed the Tailhook-like critics at the time. We have actually been down this road before. It's the AICN verion of "those who do not know their history are dooooooomed to repeat it." Here endith the lesson.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Alonzo Mosely is right about 2, 3 and 4

    by moviemaniac-7

    These things will happen, cause they happen every year. Hopefully they have a major plot twist around the eight or ninth episode and all things 24 will be up for grabs. It would be funny if Kiefer's contract was a hoax and by the end of the season he will be gunned down by... Mandy! (naked of course)

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Alonzo Monsely may be right...

    by Phimseto

    ...but he's still a cigarette-stealing motherfucker.

  • Jan. 10, 2007, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Alonzo Mosely may be right...

    by Phimseto

    ...but he's still a cigarette-stealing motherfucker.

  • Jan. 11, 2007, 12:41 a.m. CST


    by Alonzo Mosely

    Maybe, but I have great taste in shades...

  • Jan. 13, 2007, 10:35 p.m. CST


    by IWatchTooDamnManyMovies

    The Jack Sack Gotta EAT!