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Stare into the eyes of the Silver Surfer!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Seems the studios are unloading all their cool promos for the big geek flicks of 2007. GRINDHOUSE, TRANSFORMERS and Fantastic Four 2...
The trailer sounds great, even to someone who not only didn't like Tim Story's first attempt, but who was flat-out offended by what he did the Four. No matter what I think of the pedigree for this sequel, the idea of seeing the Silver Surfer on the big screen makes me smile.
Now, USA Today got to debut the Surfer. My first impression... I'm not impressed. Why does he have eyes? One of the things I've always loved about the surfer is his lack of easily readable emotion. Especially at the beginning. His face and, presumably, voice are all we need... I want to see him move before I make any sort of final judgment on the design, but hopefully I shine to it a little more when I see it moving. Check out the image below and let me know your thoughts.

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Pretty cool. I like the eyes.
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I'll give 'em that much.
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Hey, eyes or no eyes, at least hes silver. And he look a ton better than the Thing in the first movie.
Overall, not so bad. Pretty snazy.
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Enh, not impressed, but the movie will probably be better.
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Put a high shine on that mofo!
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I've heard a lot of filmmakers talk about this sort of thing before in interviews. Anytime you have to CGI a creature that historically has no eyes or very stoic and unmoving facial features (like Transformers), they try and add elements to help get the emotion of the creatures across better. Probably the same idea here. Without hours and hours available for the director to let the audience really know the character, this is the easiest way for the CGI to emote. They don't look too bad. With artistic license, he could look much much worse...he could have flames up and down his sides.
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it's a movie, not a book or comic book. eyes are an incredible conveyor of emotions. a main character without eyes means you can't communicate tons of emotional depth, and would in fact emotionally stunt your movie. he has to have eyes. you'd stunt the emotional impact of the movie by orders of magnitude if you left him with a mannequin's dead stare
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That's the badass I want to see!
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The Surfer has always had eyes. It was visible irises and pupils that he lacked.
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I'm curious about this one... On the one hand, it's a Tim Story Fantastic Four movie....but on the other hand, that Surfer looks pretty alright...
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What the fuck did you expect? Silver Serfer looks like a bald silver man. The Movie Surfer looks like a bald silver man. Get off your high horse.
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... looks like the silver surfer to me.
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Looks very airbrushy-stylized. Nice looking, but impossible to visualize how it'll translate to moving film on a live-action backdrop.
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And besides, look at how relatively dumb the static appearance of the Green Goblin's mask was in the first Spidey. This looks fine. The appearance of the Surfer is the least of this film's problems anyway, considering what we saw in the first one.
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http://www.theblackdiamondeffect.com/Galactus.mov
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You WANT to see the Silver Surfer's eyes. You're paying an actor gobs of money, handicapping him by putting him behind a blank mask is silly. That's the reason that Peter Parker is out of the Spidey mask so much in the movies...
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I say this whilst atop a high horse.
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The SS looks awesome, but I don't know - that FF film sucked. Maybe they can just get on with the action now that the intros are over.
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I'm gonna keep saying it till Fox listens.
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...her hips just weren't round enough, that her chest was too flat or her lips weren't thin enough -- instead of just saying, "Hey baby, why don't step out of that blue jumpsuit and show me that fat A$$."
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It's goes something like this:
A guy rolls out in a ship to try to stop Galatics from owning his planet.
Knows futile.
But Galatics makes him a pawn.
See Silver Surfer reimagined.
See Galatics totally done differnt.
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In your excitement to bash this photo you forgot to mention his lack of ears too. Way to suck the excitement out of the reveal dude. Why don't you show some responsiblity and not abuse your forum to spew hate. If he didn't have eyes you'd say he should have them. Is the cup always half empty for you? He looks awesome! I was really expecting a positive comment on this, but this site has let me down once again.
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He looks a little tarnished.
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as a char. in FF2, I would've thought this was a pretty nice photoshop job. Now, in this context, it is still a good pic. I agree with Harry, and wait for the trailer to begin to pass judgement on his look, but for now it's alright.
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Is that just a concept art of how he looks in the movie? Because that doesn't look liek movie quality to me.
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wearing a buzzcut and short pants, talking about how hungry he is in his high pitched lispy drawl.
Yeesh. Why are they making a sequel?
the only way to make a proper sequel is to have the effects of the cosmic storm advance further, Torch controlling flames not just attached to his body, Sue finding ways to make solid force fields that are *gasp* INVISIBLE!! not blue energy. and have Ben Mutate into a HUGE Massive Boulderized Mass like he is supposed to be!
and the better have some reference to other heroes like Spidey or something, and the Watcher, and it better end with Galactus' ship closing in on our galaxy.
if not, count me out.
by the way, Has Jessica Alba learned to act yet?...No? find her a job at a strip club and get a better actress in there as Sue. like Ali Larter or something. She can go on hiatus from heroes... -
the first one sucked. This one will too. Give me more Grindhouse pics..
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...without pupils. Look..if your entire character is CGI, why can't you just make his faux eyebrows more expressive? Pupils, don't make people expressive, their eyelids and brow lines do. That;s why you can't give the dark Knight white eyes, because his mask is rubber. But with Silver Surfer...c'mon...no pupils would be coooooooool man!!!!
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Way more creepy and alien that way.
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It's amazing how CGI hasn't changed much in 15 years. Does he morph through prison bars? Kick ass!
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like a screensaver come to life!!!
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I hope its better than just fun.
The new trailer to The Transformers is amazing,Bay has found his perfect subject looks like...
The trailer to King of California looks like the most interesting acting ive ever seen from michael douglas, he looks&acts like his dad, at last. -
That's all I'm getting from this picture. Let's wait until we see him moving. And yes, I second the request for more Alba ass.
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= flames on Galactus or Maximus or whatever that Transformer dude is. I can't believe no one's said it yet.
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I thought they were. Their track record with their previous mocap work seems pretty decent to me.
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So he has to gush all over it since he has a forum? What kind of dumbtard logic is that? He didn't like it and he expressed his opinion as is his goddamn right to do so. Talk about hang mongering...
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LIke he dosnt look like the "real' silver surfer? Morons
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If you complain about his look your an assbackwards fanboy. HE'S ON COLOR FOR GOD SAKES!!! As for the eyes, they're not that big of a deal. I think it looks fine. I'd just like to see him in motion.
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Those are bullshit eyes.
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He looks like the SIlver Surfer, in other words he looks fine. And this is coming from someone who couldn't have hated every aspect of the first Fantastic Four movie more. I also probably have a greater love for the character of the SIlver Surfer than 90% of the people ehre. As a kid he was one of my absolute favorite, I don't think I ever missed an issue in which he fought Terrax. The fact remains I still think this will be a train wreck seeing as how every other character iss till awful, including the Human Torch. But for God sakes if we start critisizing studios when they get designs absolutely correct then they will start to do whatever they want and adopting a "can't win" policy.
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Complaining about the eyes is just looking for a reason to bitch. The movie may suck, but come on, give me a break. Now, if he add little surfer, then you got something to complain about. These aren't nipples on batman. What's he supposed to look like? He would be completely hollow and retarded looking without eyes. Do you remember Storm in the XMen movies?!
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I just photoshop'd the eyes out. He's blind looking now. It's stupid looking. Good move on the eyes.
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I just came back from a screening of Night At The Museum where the FF2 trailer played before hand, and I must saying considering I despised the first FF flick from the get go, the second looks pretty slick so far. And the surfer looks pretty damn good, if you ask me.
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The Silver Surfer in the comics has white eyeballs. Glowing? Sure, sometimes. But they're always white. He's a fucking alien, intergalactic, Power Cosmic-wielding ass kicker who rides a silver, old school longboard. There's nothing "realistic" about him, and nor should there be. There's a bunch of different ways they could have gone without giving him silver-irised eyes with pupils. It's boring, him having conventional eyes. Not even Alex Ross, Mr. I Gotta Give Em Eyeballs, paints/draws the Silver Surfer with eyeballs. And Batman having visible eyeballs and eye makeup is both teh suck and teh gay.
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Eyelashes? Fuck!
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i too am perplexed at the bitching on this one. the first movie was awful and they've still got quite a hill to climb to win my approval on the second, but that pic of the surfer looks pretty freakin cool in my opinion
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Very nice Picture, but from now on The Silver Surfer will be known as, The Cosmic Complainer.
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I want to see him in that trailer!! @.@
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But that would be silly, since this is an illustration. I know that the final version rendered in CGI will also be essentially an illustration, though moving, and modeled on an actual person, but this... this is a production design. A drawing, or a painting, more accurately. I get the impression that some folks are thinking this is an actual still from the film. No such luck.
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Whoever suggested Ali Larter for Sue Storm: Fuck you. Now I can't get that idea out of my head, and it makes the first movie even more unbearable. Larter would have been PERFECT.
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Why do that? It's like putting eyes on Spidey
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and still have faith in the next? it's an audience like you that allows this sort of shit to happen AGAIN and AGAIN. you are the dollar.
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Cool. I figured they'd CGI him to make him look like metal or something, but they're going with a cartoon version, huh? Pretty neat.
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less crome, more energy
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The Surfer looks damn good. I don't give a shyt about eyes. Anyone bitching about eyes has nothing truly better to do with their time. The surfer while cool has a small following. Yeah he's a great character and represents the some of the best of Marvel, but he's not this great iconic chracter where giving him eyes is going to cause riots among the fan boys. The look is damn fine. Can't wait to see the traler.
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...but I'll be seeing this one because the kids liked the first and I like the kids. Strange how that happens. It's why over the past couple of years I've seen Shark Boy and Lava Girl more times than The Godfather, The Wild Bunch and Casablanca combined. I tried telling them how much Story had screwed up Doctor Doom. And they just didn't care. So I hope this one is better. Don't care much for the eyes either, sorry to be a geek about it, but it just doesn't look right, and I can't believe there wouldn't be a way to make a more classic surfer look work on film.
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And that's a good thing, at least. The first one was so bad though, that I have no good expectations for this one. As to the eyes, I don't think he has pupils, we're just seeing something reflected in them...
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... and it was alright.
I really feel all sad inside how awesome the CASTING job is with Fantastic Four and how "blah" the first movie was. And there isn't any character or life particularly in this new trailer. I will say this-- the chase is nifty, and the ol' Human Torch continues to be dead on the money. I really do respect the decision to come out with a trailer that is essentially a "scene" (there appear to be a few cuts, and at the end it fades in and out a lot really quickly which made me lose what the hell was going on... I wouldn't have even known that the Torch was getting extinguished if I hadn't read the review of the trailer posted at the beginning here at AICN before going). All in all, it's fairly lacking in emotion, but a lot more together and interesting than ANYTHING that was in the last movie. I really hope that when it all comes together the EMOTION is there, because it's gonna need it. This is one of the BIG stories, dammit! Comic lore!!
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That looks like the worst paintintg I've ever seen! Not even a CG character, it's more of an airbrushed Matt Damon! Someone call Jim Cameron and get the T-1000 down here!
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He looked okay in the trailer. He moved nicely. Does a cool upside down thing in a tunnel... odd that he's all Kitty Pride, but the face was... alright. I wish the eyes were blank, but these eyes weren't OVERLY detailed. No doubt the trailer will be out properly for everyone to see soon.
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Is the one I want to see onscreen - he was beautiful, if that doesn't sound too gay. Not that there's anything wrong with th--oh shut up
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This is message comes from my wii. Fantastic Four raped my childhood. Silver Surfer is in line for sloppy seconds. This message made possible by the wii opera browser. Thank you.
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I don't mind them adding eyes, but if they were to add cock and balls, I would almost definitely have to see this only three times at the cinema instead of six. Cock and balls is not what this character is about. This Silver Surfer is, if nothing else, defined by his lack of junk. I read it once. In a comic. Come on, Hollywood types! No junk on the surfer!
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I actually expect FF2 to be pretty shitty unless there is a MAJOR upswing in quality from Part 1. But this pic looks sweet.
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Am i missing something here?
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I might not get another chance at this, so I would like to wish everyone in the international Ain't It Cool community a very happy Christmas, Hannukah, Ramadan, Kwanzaa, Winter Solstice, or whatver you will be celebrating over the holiday period. Gawd bless us, every one!
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Just sums up the level of devotion to, and respect for the source material that this Craptastic shambles can muster. They fucked up the Thing, still looks like a fat orange turd with pitiful brows, good job Kirby is'nt alive to witness this waste of latex. The Whole hoary enterprise is a hollow shill-out for undiscerning juveniles and lobotomised morons who enjoy flashing lights and loud noises. Craptastic 4(gotten). Ahhhh...that feels better.
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Everyone had pupils! I wish they had been true to the comic strip and made everyone wear those white contact lenses. Sure, it would have scared children and made it look like some sort of bizarre zombie/demonic possession musical but, for heaven's sake, respect the material, damn it!!!
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This is why I love you guys -- "No lips on Venom!" ... "No eyes on the Surfer!" ... "No organic web-shooters!" ... Nothing brightens up a dull work day like reading talkback. Hilarious.
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Forget the deviation from the comics about the eyes! You need eyes to help with the acting and emotions (if there are any in this!).
I would worry more about the "phasing" through solid objects power- that is nothing to do with the Silver Surfer! It is not more than a copy of the T-1000 and Kitty Pryde from X-men.
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I'll pass judgement when I see him in motion.
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Seriously what the heck is going on with the strange folds where the no-ears should be? The silver sheen looks and the muscle build look about right though. Not too shabby.
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You can't tell anything from this picture. It's a dude who's silver. We need to see him in motion to judge anything.
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Are people really bitching about the fact he has eyes? Who fucking cares?! Don't judge until you see the movie!!! Fucking losers.
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fans will always complain that there is something missing or that there is something wrong or that there beloved heroes or villains from whatever source material they love isnt perfect on screen. Last year Halle berry was on Jonathan Ross and said that while she was shopping in New york an x-fan came up to her and started to publicly berated her in the street and she had call security after it nearly got physical. somebody threathened mcdowell after Star trek generations, he got home and a fan left a message on his answering which stated that they new where he lived and that there would be consequences if appeared in another trek movie. Fans will not stop this from making money and fans will not stop millions from seeing this film. or Tf for that matter.
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I think the Surfer looks good. And in later comice, he does have eyes. I think it's just a matter of artist conception at this point. Personally, I can't wait to see Galactus...
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They're CGing a bald silver dude, but keeping that overrated Shield actor in a prosthetic rock suit? Tim Story is an idiot. I don't even mind the first film, provided I shed the requisite brain cells before I hit the play button, but fuck. Big frigging wow- a CG promo pic of a bald silver guy. How long did they work on that. Oh, and the Surfer looks rubbish with pupils. Like Colossus. Fact. But we couldn't expect such a divine directorial talent as Tim Story to adhere to the classic design. The actor needs to show his eyes in order to convey emotion? Did you see the first film. Emotion shmotion. He's silver and he flies a surf board. That's it. Christ I can't even remember whether I care or not. Or not. Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Hey man, are you psychic or didn't you know I trademarked and registered "Alex Ross-y" in the TF talkback? Pay up, fool! ;)
Sexy, don't you mean pupils and irises? Heh!
Right on DocPaz. God forbid our species ever evolves to the point where talkbackers realise there are things you can do graphically in a comic you can't do on film and vice-versa and it's no crime to tailor to the strengths of each. Sigh. It's alternately hilarious and aggravating. Can't fucking WAIT to hear the screams about Galactus not having a ridiculous oversized BRIGHT PINK headpiece! Bring it ON! -
With a chrome paint job, smeghead.
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Would you care for some Tranya? I hope you relish it as much as I do! I didna think Clint Howard was still in the biz....
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I'M GONNA SLIT MY FUCKING THROAT!!!!
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for a guy that is supposed to be silver, I think he looks pretty bad ass. Why even complain about the eyes? At least they are doing this in CGI, they could have gone the cheapy route and put jones in a silver suit, which really have sucked. The first movie was great fun, this one is shaping up to a fucking blast. I hope there is a 3rd.
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I understand the complaint that SS is, to you at least, an emotional blank slate, but eyes need not change that much. Robert Patrick's T-1000 had eyes (in human form) and did a great job of hiding his emotions. Vader had no eyes, but voice and body language betrayed a great many feelings. Good animators would be able to convey any feeling -or lack of it- whether the eyes were there or not. I'm of the opinion that blank eyes would have looked "off", just as it would if they were to white out Batman's eyes in his films.
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I think ol' egg-head will be in the biz as long as little bro is making movies.
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Thank You, Goodnight!!!
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...because blind people have to look ugly. (Remember that certain comment about blind people and make up, when Harry showed us some pics form part 1 back in the days?)
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Fuck. He looks great, get over yourselves hopefully no one cares about your fucking opinions anyway.
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I bet the he has eyes so when he finally becomes good at the end, and turns on Galactis to save the FF we can see the crisis of conflict in his eyes. Mark my words that is exactly what will happen.
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had no eyes, ostensibly. I've never read a comic in my life, just hoping to provoke more discussion/argument. I love nerds arguing!
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but the haters are so bound and determined to hate, they bitch and moan and moan and bitch. Lotta high horses a lot of people are on out there, and for no good reason. Silver Surfer has eyes that aren't just blank slates? Oh, the horror. The horror. Wankers.
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Oh Boy! Looks like someone figured out how to use the smudge feature in photoshop! Can you feel that twenty dollar bill activating in my back pocket Tim Story, cause I sure can. Prepare to roll in filthy lucre my friend and to think it took you almost zero effort. ----grumble grumble grumble....
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Can't figure out who is the worst casted of the two.... Alba or Berry.... fucking directors need to really get ideas from the fanboys.... or not, but just dodge awful casting like those two...!
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We have a new catch phrase!
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the first one was so dumb, with the same director on the sequel....I just dont think it would be drastically different.
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Who are they trying to kid?
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They should have given him a black leather outfit like the X-Men movie costumes. With a lot of snaps and zippers. And maybe goggles. And change the surf board to jet boots.
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um. i can make anyone look exactly like this in photoshop. and, you are so right on about the eyes. silver surfer isn't a human. he's an alien. and he's got those glowing 'non-eyes' that emit cosmic vapors. my disappointment is growing on this one...
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They gave eyes to Silver Surfer? What next? Organic web-shooters on Spidey? Oh wait...
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As she downs my schlong.
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count for shit. So moan on all you like this film will still make money. As will TF, although I think that decision to base the movie in Iraq will sink the movie as i have said on the TF thread. fans opinions again count for shit.
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What about Robocop? We hardly saw his baby blues. Was he too stiff? Just throwing this out there. Not taking a stand at all on any of it. Except that I hope no crazy producers get ideas of killer robo sharks in their heads. That could be really bad. Peace.
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i think the photo is bad asssssssssssss -- looks just like the comic book
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thats not a shot from the movie, its a fvking photoshop rendering/concept..
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They did do a lot to change some of it. Cullen is the biggest, but they listened more so then other movies (Episode 1,2 come to mind).
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that
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You don't need eyes to help with the acting or emotion of the character. A voice is enough, proven in V for Vendetta.
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fans can change things that dont like in a film. I also concede that going on the basis that Bay's last film was The Island, TF could tank. making predictions about Box office number is risky. lots of people on this site thought that X-3 would bomb and the reverse happend, despite harry's campaign.
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...but that's pretty badass! Although if you didn't know this was live action film, one could easily mistake this a being a shot from an animation film. I'm just saying it doesn't look photo real
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This is an extraterrestrial character that looks like nothing any of us have seen in real life. He's a comic book character made real, and you know, in my mind's eye, this is exactly how I always figured he'd look if he was standing next to me. If he looks this good in a picture, I can only imagine how great he looks in motion. Color me psyched.
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Who the hell cares about the eyes! He looks like the silver surfer. You cant copy the comic 100%, and character appearances always change. I can't wait to see the silver surfer and who can forget GALACTUS!
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lemme tell you why your "he has eyes" argument doesn't hold up. You wanna bitch about something THAT trivial while at the same time throwing out the fact that in the comics...you cant see wolverines eyes...you cant see batmans eyes...hell most heroes that wear masks in the comics where there eyes are showing, you cant see any detail, but as soon as they give the silver surfer pupils and irises you get your panties in a bunch. im as much of a purist as the rest of em but for fucks sake man!! we both know that story is a hack and he wont pull off a good movie in this lifetime...we both know that fantastic four took so many liberties with the characters that it ceased to be a GOOD movie somewhere after the previews, but for the luva pete man give credit where credit is due...ff2 will no doubt suck, but this silver surfer looks freaking amazing! testicleez out
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Remember that mess with Spidey, and even with the Vader-cape poster?
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Wow - he looks really awesome. Reason enough to see FF2.
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The shit...AND, the surfer has been drawn with pupils and irises several times...it depends on the artist...There is no canon that says that the surfer cant have irises and pupils...in fact I think its cooler that he does have irises and pupils. I would like to think that they are going to rectify some of the problems that the first film had with the sequel...they're reaching into the cosmic stuff by including the surfer and Galactus, so Im down.
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has back hair. Totally ruining the character! I could care less if the Surfer has eyes..looks more or less like the Surfer to me. I'm slightly more worried about the "story" and "writing" than the Surfer and effect work.
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"Like, bitchin' dude. You can like totally turn into flames like, almost, whenever, man. Gnarly!"
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the Fantastic Four comic books were never really that popular when i was a kid, so i stand on unfirm ground here. ostensibly, going on his name, the main criteria for the Silver Surfer be that he should be of the colour silver and do a touch of surfing? if he was "the blind silver surfer" or "the amazing eyeless silver surfer", more of these comments would make sense.
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seriously
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Horrible quality but here it be.
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Old news, NEXT PLEASE! Why not tell us the color Michael Bay's underwear? Now THAT'S news I'm sure AICN can keep up to date with.
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Something about the eyes. Maybe it'll work in motion though.
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The trailer or A Night In The Museum?
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I don't remember anyone complaining about Batman's or Hellboy's eyes!
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Looks OK in the picture.
I don't mind the eyes but I want to see how he'll look in action.
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Horrible pun having his last name be "Rad?" Probably a check. NUFF FUCKING SAID. Jesus christ, bitching about the EYES? When I read the complaint, I honestly thought he just had normal every-day eyes. Then I looked. They're silver too! In fact, I'm not even convinced that he has visible irises! Look at all the shading on his body. Now look at his eyes. Similar, no? I'm thinking if anything he has solid silver eyes with no iris/pupil. AND EVEN IF HE DOES, WHO FUCKING CARES?! Reed Richards sucks. Alba can't act. Doom has been characteristically circumcised. Thing looks like he was tossed in the Nile and left to erode for a century. Fix these problems, then I'll care about the fucking eyes. Man, the only good thing going for FF2 is the fact that SS is even in it. The FF have always sucked anyways. That's just my opinion, I never liked them. Well, wait, I liked them when the team was made up of Wolverine, Spiderman, Ghostrider and Punisher. Or whoever it was. See, I don't care about FF at all, I can't even remember the time that I DID enjoy them.
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It might work fine in a comic book, but film is a different medium.
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And I'm glad they didn't make him too chrome-y looking. He was never that way to begin with so why should he be here? Put away the T2 DVD and pick up the comic.
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I agree there is too much tampering under the guise of artistic license - the argument it going to be "its to make him more expressive and human" - listen Mr. Story this franchise is hanging on by a hair and you are going to take a good story and change it and the characters--do me a favor, the thing that made the comic book so popular is going to be the same thing that makes this movie popular-- dont change it up, dont spice it up, dont pizazz it up, or raz-a-mattaz it up - just be a good boy and make the fucking movie what it is supposed to be--and that goes for all you assclown directors who think they know better than comics...a real fan would know what not to change - and if you arent a fan then just stick to the story and cash your fat check and shut your mouth about the movie you want to make-- its for the people--Im looking at you Ratner! Theres still time, take out the pupils. If you do I promise I wont mention what your artistic vision did to the first one. (steps off soap box)
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What's this shit about a new power? Now I've read just about everything with the surfer since i was 17. Although he's rarly phased in most of what he's been in he I can recall seeing him do it maybe two or three times depending on the writer and artist.
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and while i'm here, Michael Bay too.
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something cool can come from the sequel to the rotten ff movie? - now if they can just do something about ben grimm
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Then there is only one book you need to buy. Sidney Lumet's Making Movies.
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would look terrible.
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Looks to me like two balls of reflective silver, and the left one (his right) is reflecting something that by douchebags can be percieved as an iris.
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Not the actual final product. Are we sure that isn't what this is? It doesn't even really look CG to me, just like a really really finely rendered illustration.
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Probably so he can see, but I'm no physiology expert. *friendswithbenefits.com*
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.....all the geniuses in this Talkback, who by their own admission, hated and absolutely loathed the first FF movie, coming back to comment and spew more bile on the trailer of the sequel which they know is being directed by the same man and produced by the same studio. Masochist much, geeks? Or do you all just lack something more worthwhile and meaningful with which to fulfill your empty little lives?
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what?
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I'm looking at images from the comic, the Kirby comic etc etc...and he has fricken eyes. What am I missing? I'll admit I'm not a big comic-book geek, so I don't know what they're called in his universe...maybe sensor probes or galactic scanning devices or whatever. But they look like eyes to me. Glowy eyes, but eyes.
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Is the funniest thing I've read in weeks. Thank you dino hardbody.
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Wait, wait, wait... So you people start complaining about an eyeless superhero getting eyes when the fucking fantastic four sequel starts up, but you don't say peep about it through almost two decades of batman movies? The surfer has eyes... HOLY SHIT TIM STORY MADE A BAD DECISION???!! CRAZY! Motherfuckers why the HELL hasn't batman had the white triangles?? I mean c'mon, that's pretty much half of what makes him intimidating, and it's the coolest thing about his design, and not one fucking live action batman movie has got that right. And seems like everyone was chill with that except me. Frustrating. Like, of COURSE when a batfilm is good, I don't give a shit (just like when the surfer is kicking ass no one will fucking care, unless they're simple) but c'mon hollywood, how fucking hard is it to animate some glowing triangles? When I got my batman begins poster and had a big batparty at my house on opening weekend, I put white triangles on his eyes, and it WORKED. Everyone was like "YEAH! That's Batman!" I mean... is Spawn seriously going to be the only superhero to get that right? Fucking SPAWN??
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it's very promising. hate on whatever you want from the first film, the sfx were great. the story definitely was kinda...lacking. but alba going invisible, reed stretching, and thing smashing was all on par. i know the momma's boys are still whining about chiklis's stature and eye-lashes. but you know when johnny flamed-on you were geeking in your pants! so i'm seriously not worried about surfer's look. it's gonna be pretty kick-awesome. the plot is what i'm lookin at. I LIKED THE FIRST MOVIE. i truly did. it wasn't you average superhero movie. they didn't make it too realistic. and that's fine cuz fantastic four has never been grounded to far in reality. it's always been about the larger-than-life adventures, the family that is the F4, and of course a few laughs along the way. the first film was seriously almost a comedy with superpowers thrown in. and that offends some people cuz we just got done watching batman begins. but batman is a serious comic book. it's dark. it's gritty. it can be silly. but most of the time it's just plain dark. fantastic four on the other hand is light-hearted. this weeks issue in fact is pretty silly. it has a very great message (about how simple the marvel U once was) but seriously this junk is outlandishly screwy. it's junk they don't do in other comics because other comics take themselves too seriously. and that's what you momma's boys did with the first movie. you wanted dark and serious and you got a comedy with superpowers. suck it up. let's take what we can get before they stop turning our childhood heroes into big-screen heroes for the whole world to enjoy. i do admit, doc doom really sucked the first go around. let's hope he's hella cool now.
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The picture on Ashlander's link with the glowing irises does look much better in my opinion. This may be nitpicky, but I like the fact that he's more mysterious without the pupils.
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This looks awesome, I really like it. I'll be seeing this movie, and the trailer sounds good.
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Going by this one pic.
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should just stop making book films.
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it will deprive me but maybe it will shut the complainers up.
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I love when guys login and spend like 20 minutes writing a paragraph about "its funny to see nerds fight" and to "get a life" and what not--the irony kills me!
I'm proud of being a nerd. Im sure someone has some smartass comment - but really it comes down to - I'm proud to be nerd. -
Well
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But I'm giving you a link cuz it's blurry as all fuck...not worth it.
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Just wait...what I did see looked pretty cool though.
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...I didn't like FF I thought it was pretty damn lame. The trailer for FF2 however I just saw before seeing Night at the Museum. It looks awesome and definetly made me want to see it opening weekend. You can tell the special effects aren't done but the trailer has a cool look and feel to it that the first movie lacked.
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Otherwise I'd be far too hard to convey emotion. Oh yes, I'm in THAT camp. Eyes are what make or break CGI characters, and without pupils he'd be too hard to take seriously. I agree with whoever said you should be more mad about them giving him new powers than about his damn pupils.
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no surprise there.
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I didn't post the link cuz I felt I would have looked like a bigger douche posting something of such terrible quality (no offence to Justice41) But thought I'd alert people to the fact that it was there. Yes, I failed to notice J41's post...I guess that makes you an even bigger stud for calling me out. If I'm so cool than you're even cooler...fuck you very much, hope you don't mind that I shaved your mom's back. Cheers.
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Am I the only one who thinks this image looks like a painting? It looks like an Alex Ross masterpiece. It doesn't look like it's from a real image at all. I know it's cg but I'm seeing brush strokes. What the hell?
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http://www.fantasticfourmovie.com/ If you click on the option to see the "exclusive" photo of the surfer, you can see that the pupils have been removed, probably because of fan reaction. Or probably not, I dunno. I'm just pissed that the site makes you think you can watch the trailer until you actually try to click on the link and it tells you to go see "Night at the Museum". Screw that.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=yAw2np86KI4
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Way to go Quint ;)
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The pic on the official site looks much cooler. Wierd how much of a difference it makes.
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Designed the look of the Surfer from which all comic artists since have tried to follow. Moebius, and the Buscemas did not add pupils to the Surfer. Adding pupils symbolize everything that is wrong with directors who think they are improving on the source material but always seem to mess with the cool stuff. Worry about the design elements that are uncool or not iconic, but directors like Story wouldn't know what that was.
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to add - both these artists took the cool elements of the Surfer and still made the character part of their vision. If the film studio has already erased the pupils at least someone there is listening.
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anyone live in an area where you attempted to see the trailer and saw adds and only one trailer for simpsons? Blizzard made a delay and the prints were delivered friday morning, without reel and without trailers! Blizzard I understand, but not having the prints ready? It's not a hard job with a 100 million dollar picture to prepare some damn prints!
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C'mon guys no fighting. It's just a trailer and it's gone now so no need to fight. The figures still had that hippity hoppity, too fast movements to me. Hopefully they'll dial down the figures movements as they go along editing.
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Doug Jones. Sorry folks.
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And he could still "emote" so I'm in total agreement with other TBers that in this case, the eyes don't have it. If a comic illustrator can draw an expression on his face then certainly WETA can use CGI to do the same. Ya heard?
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It's not just about expression, it's the way the character will connect with you emotionally on film. The Silver Surfer's emotion and inner turmoil in the comic books is conveyed almost entirely through an internal monologue. In the comics, the lack of irises did convey him being emotionally distant, despite a range of emotions drawn on him. I think the CGI is enough to put him at a cold distance that eyes are needed here. Otherwise he could simply come off as an automaton.
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not a flesh and blood character.
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from the T1000. That is probably the first impression a lot of filmgoers will have.
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Stupid thing about the no eyes crowd is they are the ones who fell in love with Gollum because he had those expressive eyes. Nerds are a weird lot. As long as it's a project they have an interest in no wrong can be done.
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has no pupils or irises. So you people who think Silver Surfer should have visible irises/pupils can, y'know, SUCK IT.
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Maybe this is just a marketing gimmick to get people talking about the movie? I kind of like him with irises myself. Makes him look less CGI. Who is the face modelled after? I mean, we all know that ain't Doug Jones. Someone from the Int'l Male catalogue?
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I say Marketing screwed da pooch releasing that pic with the pupil and eyelashes. I bet someone got screamed at because as we know Fanboys rule.;)
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Fine... argue the pros/cons of pupils. And yes, Fox seems to have gone w/o the pupils. For now. I just want to make sure they don't go back to the eyelash look: www.comingsoon.net/images/silversurferbig.jpg
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e-yawnz
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Very cool trailer, I must admit. The Human Torch looks even better, too.
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More action in that minuate plus teaser then in the first film. It looks like FOX really stepped it up. Now I'm not going to let my guard down totally but I'm liking what i'm seeing so far. The fx was top notch and Ss looked very good. Torch was good too.
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Any link for it yet??
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NONE OF THE LINKS POSTED WORK. STOP FART ASSING AROUND AND POST A TRAILER THAT FUCKING WORKS YOU TROLLS!
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dsfds
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... If the audience can't 'connect' with the character, there's no involvement in what happens to the character. How many times have we seen a lead supporting character bite it and said 'Finally they won't be taking up so much screen time.'?
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I'm sure it'll be up in a few days.
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ACE AGE made an xtra $20 mill from the STAR WARS Trailer so Fox hopes the FFSS clip will help NATM turn greener so we get No internet trailer all weekend...that sux...
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remember in the first spider-man...all the hand gestures the green goblin had to use while chatting with a doped-up spidey because of the mask?...a little give and take when it comes to live action movies folks!
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On the official Web site for FF2 Rise of the Silver Surfer - http://www.fantasticfourmovie.com, the Surfer has "no" eyes. Maybe they heard your complaint. Cheers, James
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I enjoyed it, even though i took my kids, which was an excuse for me to see the trailer. It looks like olf FOX is marketing this NATM poorly, cause it's a good family flick. Tahke that for what it's worth.
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... this one doesn't even look like CGI.. Looks like a freaking painting... (this means I agree with anyone who posted this kind of comment previous to this one... If any)... If It's CGI, then I'm not going to jump in just yet... Think this might not be so great... Just like Ben Grimm's costume... They should've gone CGI with this one, Grimm should be bigger taller, wider than what we have right now. Now don't get me wrong, I think the Michael Chiklis is prefect casting for the "human" side of the character, but the Thing should just be, I don't now.. like MORE... He just doesn't look like he could stop the fire truck in the first movie... I think casting did great jobs, but the Director should've gone CGI for the Thing... Just my opinion... Oh yeah .. and Surfer.. Blah.. we'll have to see a little bit more before I can even say "GO" on this movie... Just looks like a painting to me...
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http://tinyurl.com/y2kp8c
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http://www.fantasticfourmovie.com/US/index.html
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Lokks damn good too.
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That trailer looks awesome.
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Ok ... they got me... Looks GREAT!... Hope the story is as good... FUCK that was cool! Little cartoony for the surfer. but then CGI ain't perfect...
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