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Here We Go Again!! That LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD Trailer Has Resurfaced In Many Forms Of Glorious QuickTime!!
Merrick here...
Earlier this week, the trailer for LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD briefly appeared on Yahoo Movies, but vanished abruptly.
It subsequently made the rounds on another site or two, as well as YouTube, but there weren't any sizes/formats to chose from.
Yahoo has now re-posted the trailer...and apparently it's here to stay.
CLICK on McClane and Foster to go there! Bet they don't get cut up by all that glass...
Love the dynamic of the shot in which the police car is swerving into the parking garage. That's really nice.
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...just have to kill the evil qttask.exe that likes to run after each update!
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Please stop. Don't subject us to this crap.
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Each Die Hard has so many defining moment shots, like John shooting out the windows and crashing through with his bare feet, or flipping the eject switch as the grenade-filled plane explodes beneath him, or wearing a "I Hate Everybody" sign in Harlem (at least that's what it says when it airs on TNT hehe). This Die Hard has TONS of awesome shots already in the preview, including the subway and the car-into-chopper shot, so I'll be there. :)
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I'm guessing yes, since a Mac was once used to hack into an alien network and disable the mothership's defense shield, right??
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i must be fucking baked. can this possibly be worse than Die Hard 2 anyway? and i hate underworld. boring pap. mclane needs hair. blah. blah. blah.
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No better on QT.
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...was ripped off a short some friends of mine did a few years back, which they then put in their second feature. Check out the car chase in Rollin' With The Nines.
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or is this just a teaser?
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same day as the Transformers movie???? thats not good
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Maybe this will be decent.
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...muthafucker. I'm there.
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Not knocking the show, it's sour candy, but the 'Die Hard' flicks have always and will always be a more enjoyable “day in the life of” creation for me to watch. I will spend more money then is necessary and actually go watch this at a first run theater, instead of the STD carrying ex-porn shanty that's around the corner. Seriously, this looks better than tits.
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The first Die Hard is still one of the best action films ever made (I would also put it a top my fave Christmas movie list)... Die Hard still holds up... this feels like a total cash grab and super slick...and why, oh! why!, did the underworld guy get this movie? Might as well have given it to Michael Bay, who btw, will kick this guys ass on July 4th... It will be a choice between the lesser of two evils.
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I guess there are only so many permutations for vehicles and explosions, and apparently, movies have exhausted all of them long ago. Doesn't mean the movie will suck (necessarily), but every action movie needs its hallmark stunt, and I didn't see it in this.
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Do you really think they would put the money shot/hallmark stunt in this teaser trailer?
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It looks like an Audi or something....and what are those two cars its landing on? They look like two Fords....a Taurus and a Crown Vic or something....HOW DARE they throw a good car at two pieces of CRAP!!
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I know nothing about the plot, but I know the action scenes look totally bitchin'.
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ROTFLMAO
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but until the "24" makes it to the big screen, i'll take this.
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Dec. 16, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST
This = Great counterprogramming against Transformers.
by GibsonUSA Returns
Michael Bay said it himself. He was excited to do Transformers because he'd love to do a "family movie." Provided Live Free is rated R and true to the series, I'm going to watch it first. It's a family movie up against an adult action flick. Family movie will win overall weekend numbers, DUH, but adult action flick will make it's share as well. And don't overestimate Transformers either. The brand is no Spiderman. You got internet geeks going nuts over it, but internet geeks went nuts over Snakes on a Plane too. They are not to be trusted.
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would kick those pussy Transformers in the arse.
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Shouldn't he be stuck in another bad situation like all the other movies? And he looks way too confident in that trailer. I liked it when he was depressed and always needed aspirin. What the fuck? Where's the fucked up John McClane I know and love?
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This is going to blow...Bruce did it for the money.
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This is why John McClane doesn't feel right...the original McClane is gone and has been replaced by a facsimile...Bruce has been tearing down McClane in every POS action film he's been in for the past 18+ years.
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This movie looks great. I'll be there first day in a crowded theatre of people that havent forgotten how to have fun at the movies.
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because his character has pulled off some insane feats of ass-kickery over the years. His balls were huge to begin with, but now three movies in, they must dwarf even his kneecaps with girthy potency.
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A 2 hour long film consisting only of a picture of a piece of dog shit would be better than what Bay's done to Transformers.
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I was wrong. I love to see Bruce Willis blowing things up.
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With Die Hard on the Fourth. God bless ya Bruce.
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Wearing my "Yippee-Ki-Yay Motherfucker" T-shirt!!
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He's trapped in a car with Justin Long.
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The first one worked because Bruce was not a bad ass, just an average Joe in over his head, even if he was a cop. John McClane is not supposed to be Rambo, definately a rental for me.
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the first one was good, the second was shitty, I didn't bother to see the third and I won't bother to see this (except maybe via usenet and fast forward)
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so i said id be there opening day with people who like to have fun at the movies, and i stick to it..BUT i know a lot of you slag on die hard 3, and i also feel it was inferior, for one main reason.. Die Hard 1 was ordinary cop stuck in an insane position. Die Hard 2 was extra-ordinary cop still living up the past events praise, but put in another insane position, that he has to slove because his wife's life is in danger. I really wish they didnt go the 'down and out alcoholic' cop route with 3. he did that with 'Last Boy Scout.' they could have had the same movie, but insead when Simon Gruber called on John McClaine, he was hanging out with his family, or enjoying some R&R. That would have been less cliche for me, especially since after the events of 1 & 2 john McClaine would have still been a hero, no matter what. That being said, i cant wait me for some Die Hard 4.
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besides the title, how the fuck would you even know this is a Die Hard movie and not just any other Bruce Willis action flick? What a horrible trailer... you have to set up the connection to the past... show him limping around the street in pain after getting his ass kicked, weary over something to do with his wife or police chief, taking advil by the handful - SOMETHING to key the audience into the fact that it's John McClaine we're looking at. I think the action looks good and entertaining, but USE some recognizable music from Die Hard... have someone say, "HEY MCCLAINE! YOU GOT A PHONE CALL!" Then cut to Willis slowly turning and reacting to something. This would be akin to showing a bunch of isolated shots of Stallone with no visual reference to boxing, Philadelphia, or Paulie and no musical reference to Eye of the Tiger or Gonna Fly Now in the Rocky Balboa trailer. You'd only know it was Rocky cause of the title and the fact that Stallone is in it. I just think it gets audiences a lot more excited when they get something familiar along with what's new. The Rocky Balboa trailer was awesome cause it started with that dramatic music from the first one, very low-key, and then it builds and builds on what you remember is great about the original while interweaving the new story elements. This just looks like any other shit action movie, albeit a little more over the top than your usual action flick, but still more of the same shit.
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This film is long overdue, the Die Hard franchise has been the most intelligent action film series ever. Back in 1989, Die Hard changed the action movie genre forever and made Bruce Willis a superstar. Every action film since has tried to top it and failed miserably. That film is almost perfect; most notably the two protagonists ( Bruce Willis and Alan Rickman ) who play their ' ying & yang ' roles with sheer relish and come out with some of the finest banter and one-liners in cinema history. For those of you proclaiming that Bruce Willis is too old for the role I have but one question for you: Who the fuck else is going to play John McClane? Bruce Willis brought McClane to life...
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...I ever saw and ever since John McClane has been my favorite action character. Simply because every guy could identify with him. He never wanted to do what he did in those movies and got the complete shit kicked out of him in all three movies. Hell, in the third one he was even hung over through the whole thing. What geek guy film fan can't sympathize with that. But I hate to say it, I agree with everyone else, this doesn't look like the three Die Hard movies I know and love (yes that includes Die Hard 2). This will make me sound lame as well, but dammit we know Bruce Willis is bald but John McClane had hair.
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who thinks that "Hostage" was a solid action flick and one of the most underrated movies of last year? *crickets chirp* Oh, I am? Oh. Okay. (But you have to give some kudos to a movie that goes from referencing the Virgin Mary to "The Crow" in less than five seconds).
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looked like a parody of the franchise rather than a new installment.
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Other than a lack of dialogue, a lack of the main villian, the lack of any semblance of the slightest hint to what the plot of the movie is, and the gag reflex inducing "son/daughter in danger and along for the ride" card being played, which virtually assures stupidity and disaster, it was a good trailer.Eerily Michael Bay-esque low angle flag unfurling shot. All that was missing was "Yousa say people gonna die...hard?"
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The first and third Die Hard are two of my favourite action movies
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oops too late...Damn you Len Wiseman.
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the same trailer watched by the same guy twice!!
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The first two sequels were nowhere near as good as the original, but they were both really enjoyable, well-made action movies. Unfortunately, I'm not too hopeful for this. I agree with so many others, this doesn't seem like McClane, it seems like the character Willis plays in every action movie since Die Hard - a sort of knock off of McClane. Still gonna see it though.
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Seen those in Along Came A Spider, Gone in 60 Seconds, Driven, Herbie: Fully Loaded and Transporter 2.
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should try shooting different fire extinguishers with guns, now that's a scientific experiment! And the dynamic of the shot of the car sliding is extemely cool, but could have been made better if the helicopter was lower in the shot. Still rocks though, so i'll probably have to buy the "quadrilogy" boxset to replace my trilogy boxset.
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...Willis is nearly always fun to watch. But, DH4 has that MAC guy in it, and I want to him beat to death. Does he always sound so smug? If so, I will end up beating him with a more powerful, cheaper to build PC tower. I would even say I would have rather of seen Ashton Crotchsmeller in the role. In the end, it's a teaser.
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But listen to this, kid: Ruin the saga and DIE HARD.
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Really, just had to say it before someone else did...HA!
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from Transexual Transilvania.
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That would help identify it more with the first three films. Hopefully it's not too late to change the title, because I hate it! PLEASE don't be the Lethal Weapon 4 of the franchise! But even if I like it and it gets good reviews, there will be others on this site who diss it no matter what! Also, this trailer has been available on MySpace the past week.
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neat...NEW DIE HARD!!! HUZZAH!!!
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That really *was* like DH4, only with Willis in the Reginald VelJohnson role. "I'm down at Nakatomi gettin' my car turned into swiss cheese! I need backup assisstance now! NOW, GODDAMMIT, *NOW*!!!" Again...DIE HARD MUST BE IN ONE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. That's why WAV was mediocre, and why this looks like just a generic Willis action movie instead of a McClane flick.
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None of this looks believable. Not a friggin thing. This is more like Die Laughing. I'm in agreement that the first movie was by far the best and didn't need any of those lame sequels to tarnish it. I hope this Dies at the box office.
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If he wasn't inthe Apple ads, I'm sure you guys wouldn't have a problem with him.<br><br>And don't forget, he was in Jeepers Creepers, one of the better monster movie franchises in recent years. Thats gotta count for something. nd another thats gotta count for something, didn't JC2 win on its opening weekend??? Wheres the third one? I usualy don't like that type of shit, but a batdude that can regenerate body parts and dresses like The Undertaker, is cool in my book.<br><br>Wise with that harpoon shooting truck in the last one was awesome also.<br><br>Regarding LForDH, it looks lame. I was never a big fan of Bruce, but I did enjoy the Die Hard flicks. Believe it or not, I like the sequels better. (!) But this new one looks like cgi'd ass, and we're not talking about Jolie's in Beowulf.
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It's a Die Hard film, not a goddamn "Underworld vs. The Matrix" video game, in case the fuckidiot Len "wise"man hasn't noticed it yet...
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That kid got to my nerves within 5 seconds. I don't want to here his whining for more than ten minutes.Also, this film is so transparent it's like a shot up pane of glass; my math is fuzzy, but it will be: 80 percent mindless action and inane CGI stunts 10 percent the Mac kid typing away at an computer and talking in technobabble 3 percent McClane getting it on with that female FBI agent 7 percent random shots of American flags, etc. Mix it up and enjoy
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Where do you get that, though? I got no idea if this movie is gonna be good, I don't trust the director either, but that trailer doesn't remind me of Underworld or the Matrix. Do you think if you didn't know who the director was you'd see that trailer and say "Oh geez, this must be the underworld guy"? I don't see it man, I think you're projecting. And don't project on John McClane. You will regret it.
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is the better sequel. Die Harder was shite, this looks fucking unrelated. Had it not said Die Hard, I'd be har pressed to think it was a Die Hard movie. BTW- I love the insanity of the title. Live Free or Die Hard? Motherfucking brilliant.
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afraid of change.
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I usually agree with you. But I'm worried about the film because of this trailer. The one bit of dialogue we get lays out the idea that McClane is an ice cold motherfucer. Calm under pressure. This just ain't the McClane we are used to. What I love about McClane is the real look fo panic he has, the "just getting through this by the skin of my teeth" look. Here he looks strained but never panicked. Ok, ok I know this a somewhat paranoid perception of the movie based on the trailer, but come on, this is Len Wiseman and a script I believe wasn't origianlly intended as a Die Hard sequel.
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How he basically says the movie sucks cause of Paul Gleason's character and how annoying he was. FUCKING DUH, FATSO, HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ANNOYING! HE REPRESENTS BEAUROCRACY AND RED TAPE AND LARGESSE WHEN IT COMES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT! If you think this doesn't exist, come to New Jersey asshole! That 'review' and his review for The Usual Suspects, as well as thinking that Godfather III was better than Godfather II makes him COMPLETELY FUCKING BAT-SHIT INSANE. Like others here have said, Die Hard is literally the perfect action movie. Most of my favorite films are the greats of the late 60's and 70's, as well as the work of directors like Kurasawa, Desica, Ford, etc., but Die Hard is the action film to end all action films. It's a monument to entertainment perfection, and I'm sorry, if you can't have fun watching that movie and don't marvel at how well put together and how it's stood the test of time, then you should have your eyes yanked out of your head for being such a dour doochebag of a human being.
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ya think?
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between the preview and Underworld, I can see a connection between how slick and downright organized the action in the preview looks (especially the car missing them by inches) and those vampire movies. The action in the Die Hard movies always felt chaotic and raw (think about the first terrorist McClane kills by breaking his neck while falling down some stairs). This preview has the feel of something being choreographed when it should feel like McClane is flying by the seat of his pants. Of course, much of this is conjecture, but in this one aspect I can understand why people are making an Underworld comparison.
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As a native former New Hampshire man, I love the title. "Live Free or Die" is the state motto which is what the title is derived from. Therefore, changing it to your suggestion would sound stupid.
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Die Hard films usually have larger than life locales (sky scrapers, big cities, airports) like L.A. and N.Y. wtf is up with choosing D.C. I'd rather see Mac running around Vegas blowing shit up. Guns, tourists, money, wiseguys. Thats a Die Hard movie.
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have I seen people jump out of helicopters before they blown up. COBRRAAAAAAAAA! Nevertheless, I will be there opening weekend, just like all the Die Hard films. And I second the wish for an Unbreakable sequel. So much potential there, and with "Heroes" hitting big, maybe they will do it.
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Dec. 17, 2006, 12:05 p.m. CST
i feel a little more confident about this film...now...
by LarryTheCableGuy
on imdb they say... justin long only plays some hacker, named Matt Foster, not john mcclanes son ... but... lucy mcclanes in this one played by Mary Elizabeth Winstead .... and so is a charactor called agent johnson which is a nod to the first die hard and also jeffery wright is the bad guy probably. i like the title, don't like mcclanes new look, though hope he will act and speak mcclaneish. i guess hollys dead i kinda like the whole americas in trouble idea and the july 4th setting might work as christmas worked for the first two and the heat of the summer in the third. i hope theres some sort of equivelent to the levee breaking scene, too bad its been taken out that sounded exciting and die hard worthy. justin long doesnt have that bad of a resume but he seems so far in this teaser that he's acting too young. his voice was too whiny and prpubescent. plus when i thought he was mcclanes son i couldnt understand why he wouldnt know that his own father is a three time hero. i fucking love all three die hard films, the 2nd one can get a little dull and i find it hard to watch lately, its really good and has charisma but its just lacking in a lot of areas. i think die hard with a veng is good, no die hard 1, and it took me a while to get used to all the differences in character, but i think it's a good mixture of action suspence an comedy and has more in common with the original die hard than one might think at first glance.
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John McTiernan .... producer
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A few here have made the observation that Willis is not playing McClane anymore but playing the cliched over confident action hero. While I agree with that sentiment, one also has to consider that last line in the trailer, "You look like you've done this before"... one would hope that after all the shit this character has been through that he would know what he's doing... but if they were to play that for real Willis would be playing it confident and not cocky which is what it looks like from this trailer... cocky=cliched action hero... DH4 is for the video game era... sadly.
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As in the God and Father of Olympus! Now don't you fuck with me or I'll shove a lightening Bolt up your ass!! Okay....Zeus..got it...
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I can't say I wasn't disappointed in that bit of casting but of course i'm seeing this. If you judge each of the last 3 movies on their own merits, this is one of the best franchises in history. VERY little dropoff in quality from movie to movie. What other franchise can say that?
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flick of all time. There are better movies that are action genre but there is no better example of pure blockbuster action in the history of movies. The sequels are basically alternative universe sequels, in that they are both direct sequels to the original. I am in the minority that far prefers 2 to 3. 2, although far too much a lesser clone of the original, at least throws us the bone of some cameos of characters from the original, and gets the "stuck in a fairly confined space" part of the formula. 3 is a generic buddy-buddy flick shoehorned into the franchise. This looks like a generic action flick. It didn't need to be made, but if it keeps Bruce in Viagra good for him. <p> As to the Hostage, which someone mentioned earlier, Bruce does a fine job, but the script unravels into stupidity instead of tightening into the claustrophobic tension-fueled classic it could have been. What is it with modern thrillers throwing in sub-Michael Myer, hard to kill, killers in the third act, rather than actually building on the first two acts. Red Eye did the same thing, and was shit because of it too.
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its dues. I agree with Indiana, in that the way McTiernan shot New York was great. It may not have been as claustraphobic as the first movie, but the use of location, and the feeling of being trapped (even if it was a much larger location) was still present. That being said, all three are great.
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- Brices lack of hair. John Mc has hair, even if it's going bald. This bald Bruce has got to go. He looks the friggin same in everything now. Get the hair back from Sin City, slap it on, andbe John Mc. And - Hostage was a let down, but better then the POS that was Firewall.
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It should be "Die Hard: Just Die Already." I miss Hans Gruber.
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was pretty good. After all the whole franchise involves over the top situations with over the top action. Die Hard the original is surely the best, and one of the reasons is it has an excellent antagonist, in the form of Alan Rickman. Well I thought Jeremy Irons from Die Hard with a Vengeance was almost equally excellent. Plus Sam Jack was a cool adition as the angry black guy, overall it as an enjoyable flick. As for this new movie, I would be more excited if it werent for all the terrible action films Brucie has been in recently, barring Sin City of course. As for the CG car stunts, some of it does seem a little to stylised, but it worked in Bad Boys 2 (about the only thing that worked).
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Listen - We all accept Die Hard was the genre defining movie we all love. Die Hard 2 was a great sequel, tying in the xmas idea and his wife in Peril. DHWAV too it to the next level with an additional angle on the Mclane charater. We would have all bitched and whines if it was xmas and his waif was in trouble 'oh how can his wfie be in preli again!!!' blah blah blah... Live Free can hardly be commented on with only 1 mins worth of footage. Were all on here cos we love Mclane. GIVE THE FUCKIN GUY A CHANCE!!! JESUS!!! Lets just see shall we. Yeah hes made some shit but ha hs also made some classics. Name me one actor that hasnt made a shit movie or three. Go on I challenge you!!!
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Name me one actor who's career has been flawless. nope you cant!!
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Are the only reasons I have any iota of confidence that this may be good? DHWAV was a tad bit lame because it felt like Hans Gruber's gay brother was coming after Johnboy.
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COULDNT AGREE MORE. and Darth ..yup the highlights were a bad choice/ so was the vest - impotrant movie tip. dont try to wear a vest when mcclanes about!!! he looked a bit gay hairdresser!!!
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And tagged onto Night At The Museum prints. Then we can really see which way the monkey poo flies. And did anyone notice Frankie Ray is a listed character? I guess we'll get Nova in part three.
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Think Fast. Look Alive. Don't Care. With a Vengeance.
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Well you challenged, so here goes...<p> John Cazale<p> Godfather 1&2. The Conversation. Dog Day Afternoon. The Deerhunter. Meryl Streep's pussy. Dead.<p> Fucking. Flawless. Career.<p> Admittedly the dying part helped, but still...
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It's right there in that flying car shot. More CG car bullshit. A car would not move like that in real life. I have no faith in Len Wiseman whatsoever since his previous two movies were utter, utter bullshit. As for driving a car into a helicopter...please. This is going to be a terrible, terrible movie. As I said on another thread compare this trailer to the trailer for DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE which had the Brahms music on it. Here endeth the lesson.
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Beethoven, not Brahms!
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Nice work my friend BUT as you said dead....flawless but dead...Wasnt he in 'the american way'... not so good that one!
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and super well directed.
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Like WAV, this script didn't start out as a Die Hard movie. It was originally called "World War III" or something like that, it's been in circulation for nearly a decade, and the villains are supposed to be "Internet terrorists." Hopefully this doesn't turn out as lame as it sounds...Bruce Willis vs. rogue hackers. Gimme a break.
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http://tinyurl.com/f6zrd
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Is that who the villains in this are? "Internet Terrorists." Yeah, because fanatical Internet users are the greatest threat in the world today.
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Action heros with young sidekicks are a horrible idea and this one is gayer then Robin. On the other hand young action heroes with older sidekicks(parents,magic friends) tend to turn out to be workable. By putting this dude in the trailer it already lowers expectations ( and potential ticketsales).
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... a good ending. In Die Harder, the fight scene on the wing of the plane was underwhelming to say the least, but I liked the movie as a whole. In the third one, you get, what? Mclane shooting a helicopter. Lam,e again (especially if you consider how FANTASTIC the ending to the first one was) but again I like the movie a lot up to that point. This teaser, to me, is really great, it's too early to bitch about story or where's the Mclane we know and love and all that shit. These comments are completely out of context since these scenes can be taken from anywhere in the flick. I'm hoping it'll be great and some of these shots are truly cool (in my opinion, anyways). I just really hope they have and ending that doesn't suck. Still, I will totally show up opening day (before or after I see Ratatouille, which will be an awesome if eclectic double-bill). Peace.
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...looks kind of lame. Even there stated reason for bringing back the franchise (9/11?) is lame and a self important. Just tell us that you're trying to dry hump the franchise for the last bucks you can before Bruce Willis gets too old for it, and people will no doubt still pay admission to see it (they did for Lethal Weapon 4 didn't they?).
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The Talkback forums are truly filled with miserable talentless failures who can't say anything positive about someone else's work.
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I am looking foward to this, Die Hard is one of my favourite action films of all time. and I thought both the sequels were excellent. From this trailer I agree that the CGI car crash where it just misses them was slightly dodgy but I will judge it properly when I see the full build up to the crash. If its good and a hit I want a Die Hard 5 pronto, Quintologies are the new Trilogies. Now all I need is Predator 3 with a cameo from Arnie and my life will be complete
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So far this doesn't look like a Die Hard movie. McClane seems too slick...I liked the fact that he was a bit of a washed-up wreck held together by sellotape and aspirin, but still managing to save the day by the skin of his teeth. This looks like Alias or something.
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...and I'm scared. No blood on McClane at all. Lots of cars flipping over - always a good substitute for blowing a man's brains out for a 12A movie. I'm scared. Hold me.
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As much as I absolutely love Die Hard and really like Die Hard 2...this isn't pumping me up. With 24 and all of the intelligent action and drama out there, you need to deliver something more. I would love to see John McClane in action again. Give us something worthwhile.
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DH1 - a terrific piece of adult action entertainment, superbly directed and cast from a perfectly structured, model screenplay by which all subsequent thrillers should be judged. Erm, apart from the bit where (half-hearted spoiler alert) Alexander Godunov comes howling out of the front door with his carbine after being hung by the neck in chains over 20 minutes earlier...Anyway, whoever made the point about single location and spatial unity in DH1 is dead on. That's why the sequels don't work as well. Yes, DH2 restricts the action to an airport, but it's still just a loose frame for a lot of chases, set-pieces and poor exposition. DH3 begins well and might have worked if it had stayed on Manhattan, but no, we have to find an excuse to go through tunnels and boats and truckstops in Canada...DH4 is clearly a rental, or a night with Cinemax. Sad.
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Cuz preekwells be where iz at! I'm tellin' y'all! Word!
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So instead of "Yippie Ki Yay Motherfucker" we get "Rule number #1 ..." My gf caught the tail end of the trailer, the one with the car jumping up a ramp and hitting the helicopter, "Oh my gosh, is that the new TRANSPORTER movie?"
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...we're just fans who have, you know, opinions. Maybe you've heard of them but they often help one discern personal taste thus leading to critical analysis of various form of art intake. Or we could all be zombies, say how wonderful each other's work is and buy some more shit at the mall. Personally, I like people who can think for themselves, no matter how idiotic their opinions might be. They're far more fun to argue with than industry ass kissers.
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