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Merrick here...
Steven Spielberg is developing two projects for Fox Televison.
One is about the fashion industry, which is of absolutely no interest to me. This means the show will undoubtedly be super-phenomenally great.
The other project...the other project sounds pretty cool.
Untitled show will revolve around two young American physicists in WWII who discover a way to pinch time and travel to the future. They wind up hopping between 2007 and the 1940s in order to aid the war effort -- but in the process begin to upset the space-time continuum.
Along the way, one of the physi-cists also enlists a woman in 2007 to help him adjust to culture shock, and the two develop a relationship.
...says THIS ARTICLE IN VARIETY.
Anyone remember GALACTICA 1980? Am I woefully mistaken, or didn't that series involve a renegade Galactican deciding that modern Earth wasn't prepared for a Cylon attack...so he traveled back in time from 1980 to World War II to reshape history/tech advancements...thus forcing forward a more advanced culture in 1980? This feels similar (and, yes, no matter what they do, this will be better executed. Wouldn't take much).
A fascinating subject matter to be sure; all kinds of moral/ethical implications be explored. World War II & its modern influence (and vice versa) have been a source of endless intrigue to me (if THE FINAL COUNTDOWN had been brave enough to allow the Nimitz to prevent Pearl Harbor & potentially erase itself in the end...how cool would that have been?)
If anyone out there knows more, please E-MAIL ME!!!
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It also sounds a bit like The Philadelphia Experiment, which was good in a hokey kind of way.
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should last a season....
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They could face down the Otter People. Damn you Time Child!
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Wasn't this the bare bones plot to LIGHTNING by Dean Koontz? I read it quite a while back, but I seem to remember it being about a time traveler from WWII (a Nazi in fact) who can only travel to the future... --G
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and i hope somebody chins him for war of the worlds.
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You are a complete and total WANKER
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Does this mean the oft mentioned Pacific Campaign mini series done ala Band of Brothers is now totally dead? That would be a shame. B.O.B. was the finest thing produced for TV IMHO. Oh yeah - DAMN YOU DAN MURPHEY!! Michael Bay pwns teh suk!
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How come I've never seen any Dexter talkbacks on here. It's one of the best new shows on TV and the season is going to end next week.
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Man, I hate it when the space-time continuum gets upset. The Federation ceases to exist, Marty McFly ceases to exist, Pete Tyler lives...and so on. When the Time Lords finally come out of hiding, they are gonna be PIIIIISSED!
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this is a tv show from the guy who recently criticised the violence on tv shows like heroes. spielberg has directed some of my favourite films but the guy can also be kind of a dick.
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And I have long wanted to see Laura Shane hit the screen. This is one of the best DK novels in print and it would make a great movie. Especially since it does dare to posit what changes could take place if history were altered. The scene with Churchill was outstanding. Really dug this book. Sounds like SS is "borrowing" the plotline somewhat.
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So they can travel through time and the most important thing they can think to do is go back and help win a war that was already going to be won anyway? <P> That sounds like an afternoon if you can travel through God damned time. Maybe a layover on your way to shoot dinosaurs or take naked pictures of Helen of Troy on your camera phone. <P> Expensive + stupid = this show.
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in the furture, not 2007. I'll bet a billion fucking dollars that money had to do with 2007 because of set costs. Just like the WOTW failure. It's cheaper and quicker to film just one dude watching tripods roam around rather then showing the world being invaded and in a different time frame. If they had WWII fuckers going to 2707 that would be tits. Owe but to expensive to make. Eventually sets will diminish for CG to maybe we'll get some killer future shit. Or cool alien worlds like Avatar. So what do they do? Pick Einstein's brain and develop the atom bomb earlier. The bombs are dropped on NY? What next time travel, to 2007 learn some Hip Hop and take it back and totally warp the minds of everybody.
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in the furture, not 2007. I'll bet a billion fucking dollars that money had to do with 2007 because of set costs. Just like the WOTW failure. It's cheaper and quicker to film just one dude watching tripods roam around rather then showing the world being invaded and in a different time frame. If they had WWII fuckers going to 2707 that would be tits. Owe but to expensive to make. Eventually sets will diminish for CG to maybe we'll get some killer future shit. Or cool alien worlds like Avatar. So what do they do? Pick Einstein's brain and develop the atom bomb earlier. The bombs are dropped on NY? What next time travel, to 2007 learn some Hip Hop and take it back and totally warp the minds of everybody.
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Seriously.
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I agree with you, Supermarch. I've posted on other talkbacks that I'm sick to FUCKING DEATH of weakly conceived time travel plots. I dig Spielberg and most of his work, but please, please, please, ditch the STUPID fucking time travel shit. It's absolutely one of the weakest plot devices around right now. "Day Break," anyone? Oh, that's right -- it got pulled off the air. Take note, Steven. Thanks.
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you hear it hear first folks
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..if you're 10 years old.
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It could be interesting, they better talk like Humphrey Bogart and be 5' 6" and always smoking. <br><br>Maybe we won the war because of these guys? This reminds me of the Quantum Leap episode where Sam saves Jackie Kennedy's life, and Al says something like "you may not remember, but she originally died." That episode sucked because of all the assassinated people in the 1960's to save, I think the world would've been better off with MLK or RFK hanging around for a few more years. Or maybe her death would've cause countless fashion magazines to go out of business, creating a global economic depression.
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He can do the Chicken Dance when the Zeros attack the Arizona
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Heh heh heh...
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Between all the video games and movies, I want to hear nothing more about world war 2. Talk about combining two totally overused concepts (time travel and ww2). Even WW1 would be a breath of fresh air or how about, I know, the other 5,000 years of human history. Whatever! Lame concept that'll never end up being made I suspect. Seven Days had a more interesting take (even if it was sooo UPN).
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As long as Spielberg is Executive Producing... I'm there... the 2nd idea sounds like gold...
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It's more of that Greatest Generation ass-kissing. In between showing them how they can access infinite porn on the internet, use a calculator to perform math and saying "you mean Ronald Reagan the ACTOR was president?!?!" someone with tear-filled eyes can tell them that they were the greatest generation of all time and humanity. And then they will teach 2007 something about true American values while silently wondering why they have to share water fountains...<br><br>I like time travel shows but I already hate this one.
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or vice versa? could be interesting and more original.
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Anybody in agreement?
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as a filmmaker. I didnt like munich very at all and I tend to avoid Hollywood westerns. Despite the fleeting flashes of brilliance in War of the Worlds or the tom Cruise show, I found the movie to be very disappointing. So unless he makes a spectacular come back with Indy 4. my interest in the berg is over.
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... out of obscurity to be the lead! Lame! Spielberg's TV projects invaribly suck!
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... ALWAYS sucks. The writers need to crack open a physics book or at least read something by Steven Hawking. The last one that fuckin' exasperated me was Heroes. "I can't change the future... even if I give my girlfriend a plane ticket to Tokyo, time itself will give her an aneurism." ARRGH!
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its called Back to the future. Three of my favourite films of all time. Please dont fuck around with them. BTTF meets 1941. Oh dear god. Taken was horrible. just horrible. Apart BTTf Speilberg already made his time travel movie it Called Close Encounters.
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It could of been the coolest shit ever on screen, but no they had to rush it because Timothy Hines had his coming out that summer. And SS had to get to Munich so he could pump out 2 movies a year like McDonalds makes hamburgers. The film looks fugly, centered on one dude. Who fuck cares what he is thinking about ALL THE TIME! Thanks for wasting a perfect idea. The 53 version rules and always will. If you moved George Pal up 50 years, that movie would of peeled the skin off your face and kicked your ass all over the the auditorium. Not this pussified whimp out crap.
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one they repeat cliche themes over and over. They need to sit the fuck down with Dr. Michio Kaku (physicist) has work out some cool shit. Put him in the film as a scientist to experiment with the shit. Not a couple of fuckers in a phone booth or some device in WWII. What the fuck are they going to use to create time travel? A hod rod tank?
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ask Tesla to make his Death Ray. If that didn't work they could ask Tesla to clone a soldier a billion times for the ultimate badass ground force using his cloning machine. HA! What is so break through in 07 that would aid their victory for them to time travel? Why not 2107 when we got some really cool shit for weapons. And it just might make the movie more interesting....you think? Now I want to see it to see what they use from 2007 that fucks up the time continuum. Maybe they take back some better helmets.
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FUCK! Can't they get anything right? It's a cool fucking idea from the 60s written from Wells a century ago. Guy Pierce was great, the machine was awesome, the story sucked ass! I never did like the Morlocks idea anyway. They don't need to go to 800,000 years in the future to be back at the stone age again to again, keep the film in budget. It's cop out. Explore what the fuck is going on with things. Give us some science.
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do you feel like this could be yet another allegory about the Americas current situation?
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Damn you Steven Spielberg
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He he he get it? Get it? 'I said it before..' Ah fuckit..
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Now this is truly the most ' intreuging timetravel story based on 'true events'. It actually makes sense from a technological pov and his predictions rival those of Nostradamus. Even as a hoax it's pure screenwriters gold. John Titor traveling back in time .....to find an old IBM pc. http://tinyurl.com/yeprd8
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DOCTOR WHO is the mack-daddy of all time-travel TV shows. Anything else pales by comparison.
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Gunslinger and Ninja Nerd are absolutely correct, this is almost a bare-bones rip off of "Lightning" by Dean Koontz. Absolutely phenomenal fucking book, really wraps itself around the time-paradox situations expertly. Spielberg should just buy the rights to "Lightning" and make it into an FX-style miniseries of 13 episodes. The book could be spread out beautifully over a short single-season run...
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Sam was leaping into the body of LHO and was getting all crazy. I miss that show. Everything Bakula touches turns to gold...
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Rodney from Only Fools And Horses travels through time between the present and WW2 with a woman in each zone. Hilarity rarely ensued.
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Thats a tad unfair, Goodnight Sweetheart had its share of genuinely funny and clever moments during the dfirst 2 series. Then it went crap.
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I agree that overall it was a cool episode, until the end. I just thought the ending was so corny. I guess they had to have something "good" happen and they threw in the Jackie part.
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get it? do you get it!? hee hee!
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The only thing good about John Titor is he's got "Tit" in his name. His answers are retarded. Yeah, GE makes the time machine. The whole computer 1975 grandfather shit is hilarious. In 2036 nothing will be compatible. We won't even be using silicon anymore. There's nothing some fuck from 1975 is gonna have that'll be of importance in 2036 Except Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti. Is there some shit about he used a 67 Chevy as his machine? Is this the dude that supposedly made millions at Vegas or lottery and said he was from the future?
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The City on the Edge of Forever? Star Trek, time-travel, Nazi Germany, and Harlan Ellison. Dig it.
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The jury is still out on wether or not it's a hoax (I believe it is) but de details are compelling and you can see how much people react to it. I say studio's should take note. M. Night could do wonders with this stuff.. God knows he needs one ;) http://community.livejournal.com/hoaxes/90359.html
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We all know you set up that John Titor hoax with Michael Crichton!
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Each of his movies get 20% crappier then the one prior. Start with The Sixth Sense at 80% and go down from there.
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Archie Bunker time traveling to 2006 San Fran?
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I'd take his talent and run with it if I could. Ofcourse, on the other hand he's not the hot chick magnet that I am. I am all that is man! To each his own I say..
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thank you!!, you not only helped me prove a point but i also won a bet as well. cheers. p.s. i really do like spielberg!!!
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Zone Troopers
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Time travel is so rarely done well I just can't get excited about this just yet. Maybe further into production but now it is a promise of possible disappointment.
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I like the one where Al helps Ziggy to get Sam....ooops, wrong show.
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Not only does it sound like a "Life on Mars" in reverse, but it's also (virtually) the plot of next week's Torchwood.
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I don't remember that Galactica '80 show...probably for good reason.
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Create 24/26 episodes of it. Have it be on for only a season. Have a beginning and end.
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Justice League did this exact story line, but in reverse, remember? Someone from present time went back to WWII and built a bunch of futuristic machines, and the heroes had to take him down. Come to think of it, ENTERPRISE did this story as well. Aliens in WWII assisting the nazis with their technology. So, what is exactly new about this? Also, the plot is so specific, if it is a good show, how do they stretch this out into several seasons if it takes off? Last nitpick, if they can bend time, would it not be better to go BACK in time to prevent things, rather than go forward looking for help? Maybe assassinate hitler before his rise to power? And none of that they didn't want to change the timeline crap, you change it going forward or back.
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ie when billy goes back and forth in time between WWII and the present.
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Cat's Cradle perhaps?
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Im still waiting for them to adapt that on to the screen somehow. my absolute favourite of the vonnegut books.
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Yes, this has already been filmed by the BBC. Goodnight Sweetheart starred Spielberg favourite Nicholas Lyndhurst - check it out on BBC DVD...it's quite a ride and don't let the complicated physics of time travel referenced in it put you off.
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Two WWII dudes travel back 200,000 years to round up a mammoth for use in operation Overlord but get taken hostage by a tribe of superintelligent apes.
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I don't care about any of this bullshit. Where is Indiana Jones 4?
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where is indiana jones IV? dump lucas, already!
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And if you can come to 2007 and go back to the 40's why not kill Bush's grandfather or wathever...
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Seriously. If they've got time travel down, wtf are they doing mucking around present day? The time machine doesn't have a "rewind" dial? They can't just scoot back to 1930 and put a bullet in Adolphs' head?
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Yeah, this *does* sound like an episode of that, like "Alamo Jobe" or something. And Spielberg's AS episode "The Mission" blew my fucking mind at age 11. Ah, nostalgia...
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And because they fucked up and killed Adolph Hitler by mistake, Adolf still killed all those Jews and we no longer have Adolph's cure for cancer. Way to go, assholes...
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that you can travel forward but you cannot travel to the past. Anytime prior to when the machine you are using was invented. Meaning in that time line you can whip around back and fourth as long it's after the date of its creation. So perhaps they invent a machine and realize that they cannot go back prior to that date to prevent the events that lead to war, so they travel in the future to find a way to outwit their enemy. I bet they they go forward take back knowledge of some cool weapons use them, then go back again and realize a different world because of it. Even worse because of it. So they try and fix it but can't. It keeps getting worse on every attempt. Didn't The Butterfly Effect do that? This idea might work if done right. Regardless if they use rehashed ideas.
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Why can't they make a TV series of The Dark Tower?
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Also, do THE JOHN TITOR ADVENTURES.
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You know, if I am ever going to view another tim-travel based program- I want the the time-travel to matter. Change the f'in past for the future. Hell, yes, give me The Final Countdown with Kirk Douglas taking out Japs before they got to Pearl Harbor. Then have unintended consequences ensue. Or give the WWII guys not paper tech but hard tech. I mean, technology is fine, but there won't be many means to produce our tech in 1940s industrial America. Therefore, what you bring back that is useful is limited by what you can carry on your machine. So unless they have a pocket wormhole- not much can be brought back. Oh look a Sony Vaio saves the day! Lame! Talk to me when they fly a squad of F-22 Raptors and some of those unmanned drones through a time wormhole to assist the Allies- then I'll watch.
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Problem with that is, once you've gone forwards it becomes the present and by that rationale they can't return to their original time. than again, if you find "Double Ties" and hoverboards waiting for you, why would you want to. Unless you found a sports illustrated almunac, I guess.. Yeh its been done before, but that doesn't mean it can't be done well. And to those of you quick to dredge up less successful projects like Seaquest, what are you saying exactly...that Spielberg should have just quit at that point? I guess you didn't rate 'Band of Brothers' much then, no?
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I paid good money to have any memory of that show burned from my mind - and now its back you bastard!
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Double Ties and Hover Boards-- why not? Or make it dark, have one of the Raptors crash and have the Axis pick it apart. Maybe you end up with with a WWII that lasts 30 yrs, or some type of 'warm' war vs the Cold war we got at the conckusion of WWII.
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sent back from the future.
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Good, bad, naked, it doesn't matter...
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I saw Primer a few weeks ago and thought that was a good approach to time travel. It was definitely well thought out. I still have no fucking clue what was going on with all those timelines and 'versions' of the two main characters, but what was important is that it SEEMS like the filmmaker knows. I don't think there are enough serious considerations of time travel in movies, probably because it's so difficult to write and have it make any sense AND answer all the important paradox questions. P.S. - Do you really think they have the ability to make another good Indy movie without putting some fucking P.C. agenda into it somewhere? Cause I don't... funnily enough, I think the only one that would just let it be what it is and should be is Harrison Ford. I think he could pull a Stallone with the character and get it right one last time. I think Spielberg and Lucas would try to inject some other 'current' bullshit into the story or wuss out in some way... basically, something would go wrong somewhere. In a perfect world, they'd do TWO more Indy films, back-to-back. One that is another completely separate adventure, like Temple of Doom, with an older Indy in some far-off place that has nothing to do with Nazi's or Sala or his father or Marion. Then, finally, there would be a fifth film that would be the end of the series with Indy hanging up th hat at the end and letting us see some of the characters from the first four films one last time.
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Band of Brothers was excellent, but that is because it was a true story about excellent people. I have faith in Spielbergs' abilitiy to make a product, however I have great doubts in his creativity in coming up with original ideas, yes like Sea Quest or this idea of his.
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Vonnegut is nearly perfect. His major flaw is he is semi-retired.
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... you REALLY ARE a wanker. I mean it. I saw you masturbating.
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It isn't the most original pitch is it? I can't help but hope for good things when someone like Spielberg announces a new venture. But yeh, I'm not blind to past atrocities like Seaquest. If the new show sucks, tell you what, I'll hold it down whilst you kick it in the balls. :)
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taking his movies and combining them into a new spielbergian stew? Tom Hanks: "we've got to get to ryan. anybody know when a bolt of lightening will strike? we need it to generate the 1.21 gigawatts so we can travel through time and save him!" New Recruit Marty (shaking uncontrolably): "1.21 gigawatts? What the hell is a gigawatt?!"
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look at every medium that has done time travel. its all silly and makes big holes. this show will be interesting for a couple eps, but then it'll start tripping over itself. OT: in heroes, how can hiro see issac dead at the time of explosion, but then we see issac alive on the streets next to ground zero when peter explodes? see? time travel is silly.
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"I say studio's should take note. M. Night could do wonders with this stuff.. God knows he needs one ;)" I don't know about that. That means he'll have to put his ego head in the film longer then he did in Lady in the Water. He said his next project will take place in space. Perhaps his movies will be liked more there then here on Earth.
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Dude tries to cash in on giving the Nazis missle technology.
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I'm sick of WW2 stories. Screw that shit. besides wouldn't the Philadelphia experiment kind of screw up the process? If anything bring back Time Tunnel. Project Tick Tock can use a nice reworking.
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You're on, however, if the show has balls, odds are we won't need to kick em!
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This will fail
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One aspect of quantum physics (as opposed to Newtonian physics) that has yet to be proven, but exists on paper in many calculations and observations, is the portent that time doesn't exist. It's part of the "many worlds" theory, a base of quantum physics that says every eventuality in the universe that could exist DOES exist... simultaneously. I don't know if it's true or not, but a quantum time machine -- aka, a time machine to switch you from eventuality to eventuality -- would be far more interesting than a classic time machine that takes you back and forth along one time line.<p> You listening, Steven? How about introducing a new angle to your show. Give us the Many Worlds Machine instead of the regular Time Machine if you actually make this tired-sounding show.
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yeah and you watched. and masterbated.
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The 'Berg is fucking obsessed with WW2. Maybe he should be sent back there, join the allied forces, then he'd soon want to forget it.
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Brilliant idea! Spielberg should remake "Sliders"
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He goes from one parallel world to the next busting ass. Cobbio is right though. More material then the current idea. In a parallel world somewhere, SS's WOTW rocked! And M. Night knows how to make a descent film. But not in this time line.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned the terrible "Biggles" movie featuring the WW1 era pilot jumping back and forth with his modern day American "time twin"... oh, the 80s were a magical place.
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Remember to move the camera slowly and loviingly over shots of little kids. Go for that precious factor. Now picture me snoring.
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you cock-knocker. Picture you snoring? More like picture you smoking w33d and sh00tin up.
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I don't know who the bigger plagiarist is: Stevie or Georgie?
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i would show Orson Welles a DVD of the re-cut version of his film "A Touch of Evil," so he would know that he would be respected in death. Then he and i would drive to Yale, pick up GW Bush, and we would go out for a night of cocaine, steak and lobster, and hookers.
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