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LOST Replaces NINE At Ten!!
DAY BREAK Breaks Down!!

I am – Hercules!! “Lost’s” first season ran at 8 p.m.; its second season ran at 9 p.m.; and, beginning with the Feb. 7 seventh episode of its third season, it will run at 10 p.m. The move will get it out of the way of Fox’s “American Idol,” NBC’s “Deal or No Deal” and CBS’ “Criminal Minds.” It also looks like “Day Break” is leaving the old “Lost” slot earlier than expected, perhaps never to return. Read more of this here.

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  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:15 a.m. CST

    Seems Late...

    by CeeBeeUK

    heres hoping it gets darker and more twisted \o/

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:17 a.m. CST

    I wonder...

    by Yellowguy21

    ...will they be able to show us some more of naked Kate if it is on later? Though I am kinda worried, it does seem kinda late....

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:29 a.m. CST


    by Jubba

    I hope we still get it an hour earlier in Canada so at least I can still watch it at 9. :(

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Season 3 is airing at 10 in the UK.

    by Grando

    What do I care though, it's on bittorrent at the same time....

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Can no shows be given a chance nowadays?

    by JohnnyS2

    I was getting into Daybreak. Shame if it goes. I don't understand why ABC can't just put Daybreak in the 10:00pm slot in January to wrap up everything instead of filling it with pointless 20/20 crap.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:58 a.m. CST

    'Daybreak' being cancelled

    by smackfu

    oh well, I guess we'll always have those few episodes and the movie to watch to our hearts content...

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:49 a.m. CST

    Lost Lost Lost Lost Lost Lost

    by Seph_J

    Is still briliant. I dont get the haters.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:13 a.m. CST

    TOO LATE!!!

    by Shermdawg

    I gots too much at the 10 spot now, and with no recording device to boot!<br><br>Lemme ask y'all sumthin, can you buy a dvr of some type and still use it without subscribing to a service? I don't give a flyig smoke monster about pausing live tv or whatnot, I just want something that has a harddrive and the option that lets me set the damn thing up on my own.<br><br>Do they still sell tose dvd/ram recorders? They used to advertise the bastards but not lately.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:45 a.m. CST


    by Drworm2002

    It's only 13 weeks long...just finish the fucking show. I want to know how Daybreak ends...fuck wads.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:51 a.m. CST

    thank you tivo

    by Bob C. Cock

    for making life so easy

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:55 a.m. CST


    by Shivv

    If you schedule a show for 13 weeks, and it has no chance of ever coming back, finish airing the fucking series. Is 20/20 really gonna draw higher ratings?

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Lost later

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I am looking forward to the return of this Lost, although as an English man (and an avid viewer of the BitTorrent channel) I am not too bothered about the US timeslot. I have a question, though. Is this new time a bad thing? I have been reading about the falling ratings and whatnot and am worried that this telly show will be cancelled before the writers have been given adequate time to cook up an answer to the mystery. A hurried end to this story will not do it justice, I think.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 4:05 a.m. CST

    P.S. Shermdawg

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I know it's a bit old school, but don't you have a VCR?

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by Shermdawg

    Teh VCR shorted out earlier this year, and since videotapes are disappearing from store shelves these day, I need to upgrade.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Ok so I have to ask, why no talkbacks about Dexter?

    by smackfu

    Seeing as how it's the best, darkest, sickest show of the season? AICN basically acts like it doesn't exist.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 6:30 a.m. CST


    by Sledge Hammer

    HTML is your friend. especially < p > (without the spaces, obviously).<p>And they better damn well show the rest of Daybreak, I mean it's a limited run show that...oh fuck it, given how most of this tv season has gone why do I even bother...<p>At least Dexter got picked up for a second season, one of the few bright bits of news this tv season.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Day Break

    by Cobbio

    I sort of understand why some people here like "Day Break," but personally I glad they're taking it off the air. I watched an hour of the silly, uninspired premiere, hoping it would get better as it went along. But for me it didn't.<p> The reason it got taken off the air is because of its paper-thin premise that's been done to FUCKING DEATH! Gee, I've never seen a show before that had a character repeating the same day over and over and over again. Has anyone else?<p> I'm not saying shows or movies should always be based original premises. Lots of shows are sort of copycats of other shows, and it's fine. Some of the copycats are better than the original. But "Day Break" was so astonishingly unoriginal, so bloatedly facsimileed from the scraps of other shows and movies, that America gave it the finger. Right on, America. You know what you like.<p> I think the biggest problem with the show wasn't necessarily the premise, but its "X-Files" writers and directors. Anything Rob Bowman or any of the other writers do now is poison.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Season 4

    by RenoNevada2000

    Will pre-empt local news at 11pm.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:16 a.m. CST


    by sarxabomb1

    ok i'll bite. where have you seen the repeating day senario before? and don't say "groundhog day". this is action, and handled differently, with twists. If you had seen more of the show you would know what i'm talking about. Please for the love of God, don't talk about something unless you know more about it. P.S i agree on the talkback for Dexter.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Beginning of the end for Lost?

    by Kid Z

    Throughout TV History, 10 PM has basically been the "death slot" for any show. Maybe ABC realizes the shark was jumped when they killed off Mr. Eko? Maybe they're putting it at 10 to kill it off, like NBC did to original series Star Trek way back when? Not that I really believe the average network exec is smart enough to have the forethought to be that devious...

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:33 a.m. CST

    I hate reading these Variety articles!

    by Kid Z

    ... That funky 1930's showbiz slang is so fing distracting!

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Who Cares?

    by Abin Sur


  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Proof that even the execs at ABC know

    by ATARI

    that this show has jumped...

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Smackfu is right about Dexter

    by vikingkitty

    I've enjoyed the Dexter television adaptation more than the books.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Next Stop for Lost - First Run Syndication!

    by tonagan

    Airing right after She Spies at 2AM and preceding We Got It Made.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:41 a.m. CST

    I thought this was pretty much the plan all along

    by BRTick

    the only difference being Lost's time slot change. I think Daybreak always supposed to be gone at the end of January. And I think it was always supposed to be a 13 hour mini-series type thing. they had to know from the start that the concept would get played out pretty quick.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:41 a.m. CST

    PREDICTION: LOST won't be picked up for a fifth season

    by ckane123

    PREDICTIONS - They will keep it on the air for the next year, and they will move it - again - because the ratings continue to slip (they will lose at least twice during sweeps) and both Carlton and Damon will leave to concentrate on the new Trek movie/show (yes, show) before season four starts. It'll be canceled by January 2008. <p>This is not based on insider information, just years and years of watching what happens to to popular shows that burn out quickly.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Lost should've moved

    by Zorak5

    back to 8 PM where it belongs. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I don't see why they had to move it to 9 PM in the first place so it could compete with American Idol.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:09 a.m. CST

    I was just getting into Day Break

    by The Outlander

    To me Day Break is just starting to get interesting, because the main character is now using the repeat days to solve the mystery, instead of just running for his life and the writer are bringing a bit more fun into the show. If there is a resolution to this mystery it will make a nice little DVD set.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    The problem with Day Break

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    I started watching this show and was initially quite amped about it. I liked the idea behind this. However, the major problem is that after an episode or two it grows a bit stale because of the repetetive nature of the show. It's kind of been there, done that... The show isn't bad, per se, but the repetetive nature makes it easier to miss an episode here or there because you can say to yourself, "Well, I know essentially what's gonna happen tonight..." It's brilliant in a way, but it doesn't necessary lend itself to the medium. Might be a great novel rather than weekly TV.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Dexter is based on a book?

    by ComputerGuy68

    Didn't know that! I love that show, even the opening credits are creepy. <p> Just let Daybreak finish its run "alphabet"

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Mr. Mcpoops

    by ckane123

    You are exactly right - man what an oversight. I apologize.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Ckane123 and Mr. Mcpoops

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    What you both say makes a little bit too much sense to me. That's exactly my worry about Lost. I like the show, but they've expanded the mystery to such an extent that it will need careful planning to wrap it up properly. The problem is, not too many shows get that luxury. A sudden cancellation and hasty cliffhanger type ending seems so much more likely. Bollocks, it's like Twin Peaks all over again.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:18 a.m. CST

    10 PM is fucking great

    by jtp8000

    Those of you with kids will understand- now I can actually watch the damn show inbstead of recording it

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:17 a.m. CST

    But the beauty of Day Break...

    by ComputerGuy68

    is that it is over at 13, not dragged on like Lost sometime feels. This story HAS an end in a few weeks...

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:21 a.m. CST

    ckane123, you're an idiot

    by slone13

    Or, at the least, have no idea how the television industry works these days. LOST is the highest downloaded show on iTunes every week it airs. The season DVD sets sell millions. TV is no longer measured in ratings, it's but an antiquated formality now. LOST can continue to lose ratings for years and will still make ABC buckets of money. It's that simple. LOST is guaranteed to remain on the air through its 6th season. This IS based on insider information.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:21 a.m. CST

    PREDICTION: Ckane123 will still whine during Season 5

    by Executor

    PREDICTIONS - Ckane123 and other douchebags will continue to post flaming posts about Lost's "horrible" ratings even Lost is still in the top 10 for the 2006-2007 season. They will ignore all relevant facts and continue to gripe about impending doom, even though clearly a fifth season is going to happen, for ratings, syndication, popularity and every other reason. Ckane123 and other flamers will still be douchebags in January 2008. This is not based on insider information, just years and years of watching these message boards and what happens to idiot posters.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:36 a.m. CST


    by vikingkitty

    There have been two books in the Dexter series so far. Jeff Lindsay is the author.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:46 a.m. CST


    by godzillasushi

    NONONONONO and No wtf man. American Idol comes on at what, 9? So put Lost back on at eight. I have to go to bed at 10. Idiots. What will I do now? I dont have tivo or whatever they have to record stuff. Pisses me off. Im gonna go punch something in the face.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:55 a.m. CST

    And 16 million viewers isnt bad!!!!!!

    by godzillasushi

    What is your problem folks? Its not like no one is watching so they moved it. 16 million is quite good, moving it to 8 would be like the smartest move so you can get kids to watch it as well.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Too bad for Daybreak

    by Nabster

    It may have been a disposable show, but I still enjoyed it. I hope they can atleast finish its run, although I am sure even if that does not happen it will find its way to the net somehow.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 9:05 a.m. CST

    That is Bullshit! How about giving a show a chance?

    by Mr Incredible

    Like several others on this talkback, I was getting into Daybreak, and they are not going to show how it ends?!! ABC can go to hell, and I hope American Idolatry kicks its' ass.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Yes, I'm an idiot...

    by ckane123

    For believing that the historic trends in how ABC and other networks make mistakes with hit shows will continue. Network execs have short memories, and with shows, it's not "what have you done" it's "what have you done with me lately." Jeez, I like LOST, guys, I was just predicting what I think will happen, based on what happened to Alias. It was also a too-subtle joke at that shows expense. The point about DVD sales and itunes is a good one, though is it enough to overcome network executives stupidity? Don't know. I'm out of the "prediction" business (for this thread).

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Keep Day Break!

    by Saluki

    Taye Diggs is the man! See: Way of the Gun for more proof. And yes, Dexter is easily the best new show of the year. A second season you say? This is like Christmas coming a few weeks early!

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Dexter is by Jeff Lindsay

    by Bug Doc

    Dexter is a series of two books by Jeff Lindsay. <p> His first book is what this season is based on and it is fairly faithful to the material. You should give the books a look but I would wait until this season ends so you don't spoil the ending. <p> Remember, reading is fun-da-mental.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 9:54 a.m. CST


    by mraig

    I think for all the commercial Tivo-type products you have to pay a monthly subscription. (I just get it through my cable company; it's only like 5 dollars extra per month, with no up front cost. Satellite companies offer the same. Mine's even HD! You really won't be able to switch back once you start - you WILL care about pausing live TV). But anyhow, I have heard that a lot of people who don't want to pay monthly fees have built their own Tivo. It's basicly just a simple computer with a big hard drive and video in/out card. Do a Google search and there are websites telling you how to do it and with free software you can use to set it up. Just thought that might be something up your alley.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Historic trends

    by Executor

    ckane123: Alias (which did last 5 seasons btw) was screwed with because it was never a ratings success. "Historic trends" suggest that a network will not want to mess with success and bleed a show dry til it's on its last leg, not prematurely cancel it. If I were you, I'd be more worried about whether ABC will let the producers wrap the show up in their suggested 5 or 6 seasons...instead of letting it limp on past the point where Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Locke and all the other main castaways are long gone after their contracts expire.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Taye Diggs

    by skimn

    can't get a break on network TV. The MAN is holdin' him back!!! w/the Stars...I'd watch that for a dollar!!

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Dexter is the shiznit!

    by Billyeveryteen

    Just two more eppies. Thank God, for season two.<p>About Lost, I'm worried. My wife has quit, and so has many friends. I'll be there dammit, to the bitter end.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 11:54 a.m. CST

    i don't know...

    by v1cious

    i'm not good or bad.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Daybreak was hardly original

    by The Gipper

    In fact, it is a complete rip-off of the X-Files episode entitled "Monday."

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Throughout TV History, 10 PM has been the "dead zone.."

    by Freakemovie

    Are you kidding me? That's the most hilarious thing I've ever read. NBC definitely have scheduled ER and Law and Order for fifteen years at 10 to kill them off, right? And premiering Gray's Anatomy at ten certainly killed that show, eh? While the new time slot isn't necessarily desirable because now my little sister's not going to want to watch it, the bottom line is that ABC is terrified of American Idol. Lost continues to be insanely popular with the 18-34 set, who've never had a problem staying up until 11.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST

    On the subject of Daybreak...

    by dance4days

    How many episodes have been filmed? Wonderfalls and Buffy had an entire season filmed before they premiered, and both were midseason replacements. If they've done the same with Daybreak, it's entirely possible that we'll get all 13 episodes on DVD even if they aren't aired by ABC.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Freakemovie, that's what I thought too...

    by Abin Sur

    It's not like they're moving the show to Friday or Saturday night...10PM is gonna be just fine, and it will certainly allow more flexibility with S, L and V.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST


    by Abin Sur

    With Lost on at 10, maybe we'll see Take A Shit Guy actually taking a shit! Woohoo...I mean, aww crap.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 12:27 p.m. CST


    by CatVutt

    I use an Archos thing, (one of the earlier ones and the new ones are evern better) and I love the thing. Particularly as a commuter, since I can watch stuff on the thing or on the TV. Either way. Mine's got an 80G HD, I think you get newer ones with 100G. do need a separate tuner if you're going to record while you're watching, ie the VCR or a separate output of some sort.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    fucking IDOL

    by Buzzsawlenny

    everytime i see the ratings OR i hear of a show that american idol has beat the crap out of..i go a little bit more insane..i cannot fathom for the life of me why people like televised karioke(however u spell it)and when they try to rock it's even worse and sooo watered i'm all worked into a frenzy now..i gotta go burn something!

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Abin Sur

    by ATARI

    If only we could get a little N.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST


    by Abin Sur

    If we want a little N, we'll have to have a little H, a little B and a little O. ;)

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Dexter is like a dark version of Batman

    by shitstorm23

    Where the fuck are the Dexter talkbacks? Getting picked up for a 2nd season is the "Coolest News" I've heard in a long time. Other than the killing, Dexter's Batman. He's great at acting like a regular guy and then turning completely dark and into something inhuman. It's one of the best shows ever, just ass loads of fun. And, if you were like me and thought there was no way you could see the gay guy from Six Feet Under as anything else, think again, he does an amazing job in this. Nailing voice changes when he's flipping between "normal" & psycho. Give it a shot.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    ABC, it's time for a new GREATEST AMERICAN HERO series

    by SpyGuy

    You heard me. Starring David Burke (Arthur from THE TICK live-action series) as Ralph, Bruce Campbell as Bill Maxwell, and Charisma Carpenter as Pam Davidson. Now make it happen.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:40 p.m. CST

    LOST will conclude properly

    by Mister Sean

    The ratings, DVD, and iTunes sales are up enough to sustain through 2 more seasons, I imagine, and the creators have repeatedly said they don't expect the show to go on more than 5 seasons. <P>The only problem I foresee is budget, but considering the cast will likely only get smaller from here on out, then that should be helped a little. Plus, they tend to re-use several locations, so maybe the flashbacks will get skimmed back as a result of budget cuts. I don't think any viewers would complain if there were less flashbacks.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:46 p.m. CST

    This Is Why I Didn't Watch The Nine - No More ABC

    by UserIDGoesHere

    I actually thought about this at the start of the season. I'm done with serialized shows on ABC. I'll stick with Lost until it's cancelled with no answers, but I won't start any others. NBC's Heroes is the only new one I watch and I only picked it up AFTER the ratings were in.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 1:49 p.m. CST

    10 PM kind of blows

    by Itchy

    I had a nice little routine going. DVR the damn thing at 9, while I'm getting the kids to bed. Start watching at 9:30 and done by 10:15 once you blow threw the stupid commercials. Damn you for screwing that up, ABC. On the other hand, maybe I can stay current with my Veronica Mars now.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Dexter talkback for the 12/17 finale??

    by DonnaDarko

    PLEASE Herc? Can you do that for us?

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I liked...

    by yumyum

    the NINE. But ABC should fill the timeslot with a new sitcome starring these guys:

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Ditto on the "Done with ABC" bit

    by FranklinCobb

    After the way they bungled the excellent "Invasion" series last year, I resigned myself to no longer committing to ABC's serial shows. Period.<p> Once Lost is done, I'll be through with them completely. <p> It's the same deal with the CW--they cancelled Angel when it hit a creative zenith, so after "Smallville", I'm done with them, too.<p> I watched the pilot for "The Nine" and while I thought it was interesting I remembered my vow...and good thing, too, as ABC has the attention span of a gnat and has already pulled it. Those guys...they're GRATE!<p> Thank god for Heroes this season. Between "Earl", "Office", "30 Rock", "Studio 60", and "Heroes", this is a network I can get behind. Why? Look no farther than the fact that while both 30 Rock and Studio are struggling in the ratings, NBC is giving both series a fair shake at attracting audiences. I applaud them for that. Both are great shows, reward NBC for sticking with them by checking them out if you haven't already. Tina Fey is brilliant.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Sherm, if you have Comcast...

    by Lenny Nero

    ...the DVR deal is $30 for installation, then $10/month from there on out. I thought it was a pretty sweet deal, and Comcast DVR has some advantages over the regular TiVo boxes (just as it has some disadvantages.) <p> I would say that you would absolutely start to enjoy the ability to pause Live TV, as, well, lives are busy things with phone calls and friends and whatnot. However, (and this is not a dig at you, but at our culture) seeing that you're a regular AICN talkbacker, perhaps the whole friend angle doesn't apply.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST

    I like Daybreak

    by Doggus47

    That's right I said it. I hope they run it through to conclusion. I liked the last ep. where he "solved" his partners domestic issues and that carried through to the next day.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Damn Dexter, it sucks monkey balls.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    The show is vastly overated. Its a poor man's Nip Tuck at best.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by tie3456

    I used to be able to get Lost in right before I had to leave for work at 10:30. Now I won't be able to watch it on Wednesdays. Boooo

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    You would think Day Break would get boring.

    by Lenny Nero

    But they've done a dynamite job of making each restart completely different than the ones past. All those complaining about this "recurring day" thing clearly haven't watched the show.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Yoda's Ball Sack- Poor man's Niptuck?

    by Lovecraftfan

    That would be hard since Nip/Tuck is a dull, silly, and vastly overrated show. The reveal of The Carver was the single stupidest thing I've ever seen on TV.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Yeah I've been loving Dexter too

    by _Maltheus_

    <p>I'm surprised to hear it got renewed though. Too bad Profit didn't come out now. It got canceled for being a lot less dark than Dexter. You know a show has done a good job when it has you sympathizing with a serial killer. I'm grateful this season for both Dexter and Heroes. I wasn't expecting to pick up two new good shows. A welcome surprise, given where Lost has been going.</p> <p>Lost needs to get it's "fat lazy ass up here" to be kicked by Adama. The 10pm time slot is only going to hinder it further I think. I'd prefer they go back to 8pm. Although I suppose I do consistently underestimate the power of American Idol. I never thought that fad would have lasted as long as it has. Lost needs some executive shuffling, pronto. If I were an ABC stockholder, I'd be real pissed over how they have been handling that cash cow. At the very least, anybody on the show that was connected to Alias should be fired immediately (including Abrams). It's been meandering in the same fashion of late.</p>

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:31 p.m. CST

    I also liked Daybreak

    by Neo Zeed

    The whole Groundhog Day thing is just a springboard for some interesting twists and turns. And the cool thing is that he'll repeat the same day at least 5 or 6 per episode and do completely different stuff. It's a good show and deserves to finish it's run.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Dexter and Nip/Tuck

    by _Maltheus_

    The two shows are in no way comparable. Nip Tuck has always been an over the top show that ultimately took things too far (I gave up early this season) whereas Dexter has had more of a focus on it's character driven aspects, rather than the shocking moments. It's like trying to compare Smallville with Lost. The shows are in different leagues. But I guess I can understand some people not liking it.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Sidenote: The Wire

    by Doggus47

    The Wire season finale has been available for a few days now on VOD. Don't delay watching it- it was awesome. They need to get the talkback started on that so we can discuss the death...

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I think this is a bad move

    by quadrupletree

    I for one don't anticipate staying up till 10 to watch this show. I'll still watch it on Tivo but I'm a lot more likely to stop watching all together now. Bad move ABC.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    F TheApostle

    by slone13

    <p>Yeah, you heard me.</p> <p>And while we're on the subject of TIVO/DVR, I question anyone's reluctance to embrace this truly life altering technology. If it's a cost issue, well, then that's a different story. But personally, the rather minimal cost is totally and completely worth the undeniable convenience that digital video recording offers. I truly cannot imagine watching tv any other way anymore.</p>

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg, VCR tapes are sold by the stacks

    by Orbots Commander

    down at your local supermarket or CVS/Rite Aid/Eckerd's drugstore, and VCR's now go for about $50. Like someone above said, a bit old school but still reliable and it works fine.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST

    "10 PM has basically been the 'death slot'"

    by bah

    No doubt, remember "ER"? What a bomb! And I always liked "Law & Order", wish that hadn't died so quickly. I thought "CSI: MIamai" and "NYPD Blue" would have had legs. "20/20" and "Barbara Walters" were pretty good too.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 7:31 p.m. CST

    That said....

    by bah

    I don't like the move. I wo't be watching until Thursday now, which means avoiding the Interweb all day (even news sites, which were all over Eko's demise)

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Thanks guys for the suggestions, but...

    by Shermdawg

    Anything subscription based, I'm not down for. I don't watch enough tv to warrant digital cable and it's available dvr, which would set me back a extra $25-30 a month, which would be money down the drain. The same goes for Tivo, even at $10-15, in my case, not worth it. Although, Tivo woulda been nice to have when I missed Torrie Wilson's boob pop out (twice) on Raw the other night.<br><br>The modded computer is a really cool idea, but I doubt I'd go that route anytime soon.<br><br>Vcr's are dying, so outside of me picking up a dvd/vcr/ram combo unit, I'm not staying in the past. Plus I don't need to buy in bulk, I've got a ton of apes taking up room as it is.<br><br>I'll do a bit of homework next week when I'm Christmas shopping, hopefully I'll find sumthin.<br><br>I will keep all of you're tips in mind though.<br><br>Oh, and Lenny, I could assume the same about you. ;)

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    48hrs, no sleep, and a mouse in the house, sue me.<br><br>The "apes" mistake was my fucking browser.<br><br>yeah.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    The situation isn't this bad, thank god.

    by Shermdawg

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Dexter Talkback

    by buffywrestling

    Might be nice. If been watching since the beginning. And although I don't really like Big Cranky Black Cop's acting, Julie Benz makes up for it. I find Dexter interesting in his juxtapositions - playing with his girlfriends kids one minute, then drilling into people heads the next.

  • Dec. 6, 2006, 10:35 p.m. CST

    4 real...

    by Buzzsawlenny

    dexter,the wire,lost,battlestar, earl and the's a pretty good time to watch the tube nowadays if you can dodge all that "reality" crap

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Reality TV can suck my fiction-loving cock...

    by Laza-rus

    Guess this reality TV junk is more than just a passing phase - it just chaps my ass that its starting to invade my special TV time - not that I care that Lost is airing later - I just hope that it doesn't hurt ratings too much which = an early death (actually a shark jump would take care of that which could very well happen if this season's new direction isn't handled carefully).

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Absolutely, Shermdawg!

    by Lenny Nero

    [message goes here]

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Re: sarxabomb1

    by Cobbio

    In response to my comment that the premise of "Day Break" has been done to death, you wrote, "Where have you seen the repeating day senario before? and don't say "groundhog day". this is action, and handled differently, with twists. Please for the love of God, don't talk about something unless you know more about it."<p> I watched the first hour of "Day Break" and was so underwhelmed by its hamfisted premise, I couldn't watch any more of it. And, after reading it's been cancelled, I'm glad I did so.<p> Which other show has used the repeating day format, you asked. Well, "Groundhog Day" IS the exact same premise "Day Break" used, which, even if "Day Break" is an action show, basically copies the movie with a few humorless twists. The problem lies in the fact I don't want to wait 13 weeks to see why and if Diggs' day is repeating. For television, it's a supremely boring idea, which is why it didin't get higher ratings and is getting pulled off the air. But if you want me to name other repeating day stories, how about "12:01," a well-received show that aired in the mid-90s, "Premonition," which is sort of a repeating day scenario with Sandra Bullock that's coming out soon, a few different "Star Trek" (not that I like Star Trek, but I remember seeing it happen) plot loops, a famous "Twilight Zone" episode, plus the many 'semi-Groundhog Day' time travel plots snaking their way through lots of shows and movies. I'm not saying these are the same as the premise for "Day Break," but I'm tired of seeing lazy time-travel plots.<p> Give me something propulsive and forward-moving. I know many people liked "Day Break," and for you and them, I'm sorry it was taken off the air.

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 2:11 a.m. CST

    In defense of Daybreak

    by Doggus47

    I wouldn't use a show that hasn't come out yet to say that the premise has been beaten to death. I think the premise of a group of wacky people working in the same office or a lovable family with a couch and a staircase in the back of the living room has been beaten to death a lot more. It's really not the premise, it's the execution. I think that episode one was the weakest, and they're trying to make it different. I don't think they showed him in the morning in his girlfriends apartment at all this episode.<p><p> It also turns out that the day can go differently each time- wounds carry over and after one eventful day his partner woke up with a different mindset. <p><p> 24 requires 24 episodes to see a final resolution but they can keep people watching, knowing that it's full 24 episodes to hopefully not have a cliffhanger ending...

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Julie Benz

    by optimus122 Also I want to bang Dexters sister..she's strangely attractive and nice and slim and long...I would hit it.

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Damn right Lenny Nero...

    by Sledge Hammer

    I've actually been damn impressed about how Daybreak has managed *not* to be repetitive (I actually expected at first that it likely would be, but I gave it a shot anyway), and I get the distinct feeling that a lot of people bashing it on a purely conceptual level haven't watched more than one episode to judge it by, and have decided that just because they can't imagine how different each episode could be that each episode must surely be boring and repetitive. <p>That said, it's also damaged by it's concept in that, much like 24, it's pretty damn hard to just jump on board and start watching from any point, and so unless you've been watching from the start it aint gonna make a whole lot of sense or likely hold your attention. It's a show with a definite build to it, so as such I don't see it's ratings ever recovering from where they are now, with only the people who are already watching returning for future episodes. <p>Regardless, far as I'm concerned it's a damn enjoyable and well put together show, and it deserves to be able to finish out it's planned 13 episode run. I mean what kind of a crazy ass network would buy a show that was always set up as a limited run 13 episode series, and that was planned to run during a traditionally non important ratings period, and still cancel the fucking thing before it plays out? Oh, right, AB-Fucking-C. <p>Hopefully when it gets bumped from it's slot with still five episodes left to air, ABC will find it a different slot to play out the rest. But given just how quickly and how badly so many shows have been royally fucked lately, I wouldn't bet money on it. <p>And the suits wonder why traditional network ratings are suffering these days. Could it be, perhaps, that people are getting sick of investing in new shows only to see even the quality ones dumped in such quick order if initial ratings aren't huge breakout hit material. I honestly think so many people wait for TV on DVD now because by the time such sets come out then at least you know exactly what you're getting, and whether it's worth your time...

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 8:22 a.m. CST

    QUOTE: "The problem lies in

    by FranklinCobb

    QUOTE: "The problem lies in the fact I don't want to wait 13 weeks to see why and if Diggs' day is repeating."<p> Well, you're in luck--in an interview I read with the show's creator, they ARE NOT GOING TO BOTHER TO EXPLAIN IT.<p> He even states in the interview that during the process of hiring writers, any that tried to come at him with explanations of why the day was repeating were not hired, as they didn't have the right "focus" for the show.<p>Yes, I realize that Groundhog Day didn't bother to explain its deus ex machina either, but for a lengthy TV series to have a huge plot element like that but no plans to explain it...bah. I can forgive it in a 2 hour light comedy, but NOT in a show they expect me to devote an entire season's worth of watching to.<p>The comparison is apt--this IS a rip-off of Groundhog day but with an action twist. They cancelled "Invasion" for THIS?

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Missing Talkbacks

    by turketron

    Dexter and The Wire are both awesome shows that are virtually ignored on this site. <p> aintitcool? No, it's not.

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST


    by slone13

    Our meaningless exchange should have ended when I told you to fuck off. But since you didn't seem to grasp that, let's try something you're more likely to understand. Suck my dick. See you in hell, chump.

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 2:02 p.m. CST

    But if there is any Buffy related story turketron...

    by ComputerGuy68

    ;) <p> Must get the Dexter books. It's over soon and Sleeper Cell is back!

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST

    I think...

    by The Midget_King

    ABC will be Murphy'd if they cancel Daybreak. In a world of little people, the man who is 7 feet tall is KING!

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST

    the thing is...

    by jarodvhale

    is that last night's ep was really, really good...we are now gettting somewhere and they want to cancel it now...morons...

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST

    I've only seen last nights ep of DAY..

    by Novaman5000

    But I kind of got into it. I think it's a cool concept but next season (not happeening, but hypothetically) it'd have to be a new guy and a new story, not taye diggs.

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Day Break was done on X-Files

    by bah

    A 44-minute episode. That's all the premise needs.

  • Dec. 7, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Nah, they cancelled Invasion for The Nin9.

    by Lenny Nero

    Or, as it is (well, was) known, 999 9999.

  • Dec. 8, 2006, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg - non-subscriptiong DVR options

    by FlipPA

    Yo Sherm, TiVo used to sell "lifetime subscriptions" but that's cancelled. I'm actually selling a TiVo with a lifetime subscription (series 1; I upgraded to series 2) that's hacked with 307 hours recording time, a backup drive, and an ethernet card.<p>That aside, another option is which is a free, open-source "do it yourself" PVR project. Basically, it turns your computer into a DVR - and will work with older machines. It also has a ton of plugins. I hope this helps!