Dec. 4, 2006, 1:42 a.m. CST
It's been awhile since anything Barker has done has been on the big screen. I am very curious and now with Cooper signing on, I am eagerly awaiting this.
Dec. 4, 2006, 1:45 a.m. CST
Meyer wieners. But I'm always glad to hear anything about Clive Barker. Since '80s horror remakes are en vogue, how about Nightbreed 2006? From the producers of anything except TCM and Amityville Horror?
Dec. 4, 2006, 2 a.m. CST
The plots seem so similar...
Dec. 4, 2006, 2:01 a.m. CST
VERSUS fucking rocked.
Dec. 4, 2006, 2:20 a.m. CST
Loved this one in the Books of Blood, but I wish they'd do "Pigs Blood Blues" now that was fucked up.
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:11 a.m. CST
One of the scariest things I've ever spent an evening before bed reading. The way Barker ramps up the tension is incredible and his penchant for visceral imagery with the spoken word was in full form. It's too bad I thought the ending was ridiculous, yet somehow still disturbing, which I suppose is a compliment to Barkers storytelling. I'm not exactly sure how they are going to make this into a film though. The story was very straighforward. For those who don't know it it's simply a guy falls asleep on a subway and misses his stop, when he awakes a serial killer is in the middle of eviscerating and performing a bizarre ritual on someone in the very next car over, then the most bizarre ending ever occurs. The only thing I fear is that the filmmakers will hold back as much of where the danger in the book comes from is how mysterious and gruesome the killer is. And to sith-vol, Pigs Blood Blue is a good one, I always had a soft spot for "Yattering and Jack" myself.
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:14 a.m. CST
to the talkbacker who comes up with the best title for the gay porn spinoff.
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:25 a.m. CST
Once again I hope this might turn out to be a decent Clive Barker adaptation. I'm starting to believe his stuff just doesn't adapt well to the screen. The last good Barker-based flick was over 10 years ago. Everything that's been filmed since then (execrable HELLRAISER and CANDYMAN sequels, SAINT fucking SINNER and the pathetic MASTERS OF HORROR episodes) have pissed so long and hard on what makes Barker work in written form that I'm half-expecting MEAT TRAIN to be garbage as well. But please be great. Or at least watchable. I'll settle for watchable. Please.
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:27 a.m. CST
Hell, why not? I think NIGHTBREED needs a remake more than HELLRAISER and they're going ahead with that one... And since apparently we'll never get that long rumored director's cut I'm all for a complete reboot. Do you know that Barker originally planned a trilogy of books as well as a trilogy of movies?! Then he got fucked over so badly on the movie version of the first one that it put him off the idea forever. A decent remake might kick-start things again... But would NIGHTBREED - done true to the novel - really have any more chance of success now than it did back then?
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:40 a.m. CST
by Spartacus Hughs
Would make an interesting looking film.
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:43 a.m. CST
by Captain RawBeard
I agree godoffireinhell Nightbreed does need a remake. The book is brilliant and I did enjoy the movie at the time despite its flaws. I never knew it was a planned trilogy - hope Mr Barker still remembers his old ideas for that one. I reckon the best director to do a Nightbreed remake would be Chris Cunningham - look up his Rubber Johnny short on YouTube. Whilst we are at it I would like to see his Tortured Souls being turned into a film - they were some seriously disturbing figures
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:51 a.m. CST
It's a great story but I can't see it being done without EXCESSIVE use of CGI and we all know how tricky that can be. TORTURED SOULS, I would love a movie version of the novella that came with the first set of figures. Sadly they decided that this kind of horror-fantasy would be too expensive and so Barker threw it out completely and came out with a new "story" that has a guy sell his kid to hell so he can fuck a demon slut. The cheated-on mother has to go to hell and rescue the kid... Ugh. Sounds like crap, eh? Still, I'd like to see these creatures brought to life as well, even in the context of a dumb and clichéd story.
Dec. 4, 2006, 6:42 a.m. CST
The part where the guy is hiding from the killer on the train is--along with the father walking through the woods to bury his son in Pet Sematary--one of the scariest things I've read. Hopefully, they don't fuck this up.
Dec. 4, 2006, 7:19 a.m. CST
where's Versus 2??
Dec. 4, 2006, 7:44 a.m. CST
by Abin Sur
Dec. 4, 2006, 8:19 a.m. CST
you politically incorrect devil, lol. You actually made me laugh this morning... heh
Dec. 4, 2006, 8:32 a.m. CST
by Captain Mal
"Ahoy, squirst?" Man, now I have all these mental images of what a squirst might look like, and none of them are good.
Dec. 4, 2006, 8:44 a.m. CST
by Abin Sur
Juvenile, I know...
Dec. 4, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST
Not to take the easy road out, but the porn name for this movie would have to be..."Midnight Meat Train." You just can't improve on that. It's like trying to make fun of George Bush when he says, well, pretty much anything - it's just too easy.
Dec. 4, 2006, 9:15 a.m. CST
Scape-goats, in the Books of Blood series, would make a cool film. I heard Barker wants to make the "films of blood"; does anyone know if he's planning this one??
Dec. 4, 2006, 9:23 a.m. CST
Seriously, Nightbreed is one of my faves (CRONENBERG as Decker!) but CB has so many unfinished projects, it is what I like least about him. Lets recap: 1. Cabal 2. 'The Art' trilogy 3. Imajica sequel 4. Abarat stories 5. Galilee sequel. The pisser about Clive is he is so damn good, I want to read ALL the sequels!!! We all need to crack the whip and get Clive motivated again! For the record, my favorite book of blood was always Down, Satan! for some reason.
Dec. 4, 2006, 9:36 a.m. CST
MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN with extra MAN GRAVY en route to the SAUSAGE FACTORY. I tried, right?
Dec. 4, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST
But I gotta tell you, gay jokes, especially ones about men who actually are gay, are not all that funny. They're too easy. Try harder next time. When are they gonna make The Thief of Always already? And make it true to the book, not some Harry Potter wanna be.
Dec. 4, 2006, 9:58 a.m. CST
by Cellar Door
I do remember 'Cabal' (aka Nightbreed) supposedly being the first of a trilogy and such a great story and a good movie could make a good remake but if we're going to root for an excellent Barker book to come to screen I'd have to vote (without hesitation) for "Weaveworld"..classic early Barker and still my favorite (read all Barker but his newer non-horror stuff). And for a remake? Why not the chaos and madness of "Rawhead Rex"? I saw the older first translation which is delightfully campy/cheesey but a serious take on the story could have potential. I also remember reading about either a CGI (bad idea) or animated (good idea) version of "The Thief of Always" which would also be very kewl. Got the hardcover with Barker's original drawings...excellent stuff!!
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:02 a.m. CST
The Yatterling and Jack.
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST
But this is one story that will never translate well to screen without looking silly.
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST
Or The Great and Secret Show?
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST
by Osmosis Jones
...mean train to the eeeeeeeeeeeeend....running hard and running fast/to meet my future and away from my past/taking that gamble that cannot last/meat train...to the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeend.
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:36 a.m. CST
What fucking photographer!!?! Why are they fucking with this story? It's brilliant as it is. Why this starring vehicle sub-plot? It was a middle-aged, loser guy who falls asleep on the wrong train and meets up with the subway butcher and faces off. That's it. Simple and sweet. Leave it alone. God!
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:37 a.m. CST
by S-Mart shopper
I have been to his website in the past and enjoyed some of his movies. Hopefully the studios will stay out of his way so he can churn out some creepy shit! "Midnight Train Meat" "Training the Midnight Meat" "Midnight Meat Training" "Mighty Morphing Power Meat Trainers"
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:38 a.m. CST
by Harry Weinstein
It's hard not to like VERSUS. It's a fun little movie. But as Kitamura's budgets have increased, the satisfaction has diminished. GODZILLA FINAL WARS was an abomination. Just because Japanese Godzilla cleans the American Godzilla's clock, that doesn't redeem the gratuitous MATRIX-fu that has no place in a GODZILLA film, or the atrocious (even by GODZILLA standards - think about it) English-language acting. I hope he can pull it off, but I definitely have my doubts. And I fully expect some over-edited martial arts "action" to be shoehorned in somehow.
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:48 a.m. CST
by Childe Roland
...is the Barker book I'd most like to see get the big-screen treatment, although a much more novella-faithful adaptation of The Hellbound Heart would be fantastic as well. Nightbreed was an alright film. If they redo it, I'd prefer Barker revisit his original intent for the concept. I enjoy just about everything that comes from this guy's mind, but he needs to be more careful about how he lets them make the jump from page to screen.
Dec. 4, 2006, 11:12 a.m. CST
Everyonei have talked to loves versus but can't understand what he was thinking during Godzilla: Final wars. I personaly thought the Godzilla was just a fun action movie, an didn't get hung up on the matrix fighting. I guess it didn't bother me cause in an interview he did for the movie, he told the reporter that he was doing a sort of tribute to SciFi movies of the past couple of years.
Dec. 4, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST
For some reason everytime I re-read that book I picture Sir Ian McKellen as Joe Whitehead and "Trainspotting" actor Robert Carlyle (sp?) as Marty the thief/bodygard. As for "Midnight Meat Train" as a talkbacker said above, the original story had some loser-type character as the hero and I think Paul Giamatti would be perfect.
Dec. 4, 2006, 12:15 p.m. CST
I know he wrote the story for Haekel's Tale, but I would be interested to see him take a stab at directing one of the entries to this anthology. He certainly has enough stories in his portfolio worth of adaptation. Just a thought...
Dec. 4, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST
"The Great and Secret Show" ,"The Damnation Game", and "Imajica" would all be good choices; as mini-series on HBO or Showtime. It's been a long time since I read those, which one had the character that ate razors?
Dec. 4, 2006, 12:59 p.m. CST
by Alonzo Mosely
Did I just break the geek scale?
Dec. 4, 2006, 1:25 p.m. CST
LOL, no, I had the Nightbreed Comics also. what was that other comic series that Clive Barker was involved in? I think it was a Marvel series and it had a character called "Ecktokid"?
Dec. 4, 2006, 1:46 p.m. CST
Anyone read the Primal series he did for Dark Horse? That had some cool stuff in it...
Dec. 4, 2006, 1:47 p.m. CST
by Alonzo Mosely
There are details on all his comics here... http://tinyurl.com/y32ned I only read Nightbreed, but after browsing through that I want to read more of his stuff...
Dec. 4, 2006, 1:56 p.m. CST
Dec. 4, 2006, 2 p.m. CST
by Abin Sur
My favorite of Clive's, and it would HAVE to be an HBO/Showtime mini - way too much stuff to take to the theatre.
Dec. 4, 2006, 2:20 p.m. CST
his reaction to learning Sydney is a spy in the season one finale of Alias.
Dec. 4, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST
Seriously, is there anyone else out there who has had more unrealized film projects than this guy? Off the top of my head, I can think of Showtime's Weaveworld project, Disney's Abarat series, The Thief of Always, the Nightbreed sequel, Imagica...and now Hellraiser is being remade. Don't hold your breath for any CB projects.
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:03 p.m. CST
is there anyone else out there who has had more unrealized film projects than this guy? It's starting to feel like James Cameron is going to give him a run for his money.
Dec. 4, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
Dec. 4, 2006, 5:54 p.m. CST
I forget the company, but they have a commercial that IS "In the Hills, the Cities"? Great effect although the titans seems smaller than in Barker's story. Fantastic story.
Dec. 4, 2006, 5:57 p.m. CST
not even King can carry Barker's jock. The Books of Blood ALONE have more innovative and creative ideas than most writers have in a lifetime.
Dec. 4, 2006, 7:11 p.m. CST
SUNRISE SAUSAGE SUBWAY <p> MID-DAY MARROW MONORAIL. <p> and of course TWILIGHT TRIPE TROLLEY. I hope they adapt those faithfully, hopefully Del Toro or Gilliam can direct. MMT is really just set-up for the series. <p> LORD OF ILLUSIONS was an underrated film, if only for Bakula's tattoos.
Dec. 4, 2006, 7:20 p.m. CST
It was an episode for the old TV series TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE! http://www.clivebarker.info/yatteringtv.html
Dec. 4, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST
to murder the world.
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST
First let’s get down to the obvious: “Midnight Knee Strain” and “Midnight Eat Wane” -then jump to the freaky with “Mid-Height Pee Drain” without forgetting the essential blaxploitation of “Meet Ike’s Meat Train” all while watching are backs for the dreaded “Hindsight Meat Lane” by playing it safe with “Midnight Jean Stain” (you know… for Cinemax) only to accidentally wander into the misogynistic 70’s Italian super-dyslexic lesbian classic “Tightwip Beat Jane” And… yes… “Trouser Snakes on a Train” But by far, as I’m sure fellow readers of the story will agree, the only true porno version for Midnight Meat Train would have to be… Shaving Ryan’s Privets 2: Takin’ it Subway Eat fresh my opossums…. Peace.
Dec. 4, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST
Why dey no gimmie duh spaces between du perr-graphs? Dey done stepped on my Mojo and and made my Eat Fresh Joke look like it part of the title to Shaving Ryan's Privets 2: Takin' it Subway. Dey gave Daddylonghead the spaces. Why he so special? Oldschool Talkbacker benifits? They could at least shell out a discount on the Lemur Lube for me. Damn whipper-snappers having no respect for the elderly... bunch of no good dirty hippies the lot of them are! Peace.
Dec. 4, 2006, 11:31 p.m. CST
You are one funny bastard. Seriously. I scared the cat I was laughing so hard.
Dec. 4, 2006, 11:40 p.m. CST
is as funny as funny gets.
Dec. 5, 2006, 2:42 a.m. CST
Open Late -- Eat Fresh! Open wide for the 12-inch Midnight Meat Train, with Big Gulp collectors' cup! P.S. I want to see Mighty Morphing Power Meat Trainers vs. Heat Vision and Yattering and Jack.
Dec. 5, 2006, 2:43 a.m. CST
I'd rather live in his world than without skin in mine.
Dec. 5, 2006, 3:40 a.m. CST
Though for the life of me it looks like any New York commuter train. http://tinyurl.com/yde3z7
Dec. 5, 2006, 3:40 a.m. CST
But I was hoping that CB might come back and be involved with a final Hellraiser movie and give Pinhead a good send off. I know he wants to kill him off in a short story but hopefully they will make it a movie as well
Dec. 5, 2006, 6:26 a.m. CST
They're going to remake HELLRAISER and Barker is writing the script. Again. The "short story" with the death of Pinhead has, in the meantime, mutated into a 600+ page novel!
Dec. 5, 2006, 9:30 a.m. CST
Dirty, you ain't him.
Dec. 5, 2006, 10:23 a.m. CST
by Childe Roland
...and I rather enjoyed the character Bakula played. Am I correct in my understanding that Harry plays some role in the Pinhead's demise story?
Dec. 5, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST
by Abin Sur
The first 15 minutes of that movie were insane - especially when that giant baboon jumped out...shared the CRAP out of me! Of course we were in the midst of a cannabis fog, but regardless...it was actually a pretty decent outing, and you're right CK - Bakula actually wasn't terrible.
Dec. 5, 2006, 3:40 p.m. CST
I too found this often flamed film a fun ride and thought Princess Bakula was good as Harry D'Amour. And it was my first exposure to Famke so how can I fault that kind of hotness?
Dec. 5, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST
Reading this talkback I remembered a movie I recently saw: "The Creeper", about a chick (Franka Potente) who gets a bit drunk at a party and falls asleep on the subway, where she finds and fights a weird killer not unlike those described in the short story. I didn't make the connection at the time, but sure sounds familiar...
Dec. 5, 2006, 3:47 p.m. CST
If anyone knows Clive Barker, please tell him to get that throat checked. Last I heard him speak in an interview he sounded just like my late uncle before we found out he had throat cancer. And I've noticed it's been getting worse over the year. If it's just hard partying, cool, but anyways, dude, please get a check up.
Dec. 5, 2006, 4:33 p.m. CST
Yeah, Clive buddy. You need to have that checked. You sounded and LOOKED so bad last time I saw you on TV, I had to do a double take. Take care of yourself. Your fans are not looking to loose you too soon.
Dec. 5, 2006, 5:35 p.m. CST
Damned right. I named my iguana Popolec after that story because he was unthinking, destructive and insane. I also agree on Great And Secret Show, which I just got done rereading. Is there a third book of the art, after Everville?