Nov. 30, 2006, 11:07 a.m. CST
by Mister Man
Chill with the adjectives, Mellifluous Man.
Nov. 30, 2006, 11:08 a.m. CST
by Osmosis Jones
Who would you idiots rather be listening to, Steve Jablonsky?
Nov. 30, 2006, 11:25 a.m. CST
... you morons. He wrote the greatest superhero themes of all time with Batman. And, its good that scorekeeper is constantly writing about worthwhile interesting things on this site... unlike many others. Keep it up dude. Elfman will be sorely missed on Spidey 3, as will John Dykstra. I pray these two holes will not be too massive.
Nov. 30, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST
Just add water.
Nov. 30, 2006, 1:03 p.m. CST
I mean some of his music is really redundant but it's still pretty good.
Nov. 30, 2006, 1:18 p.m. CST
Equals flames on Optimus.
Nov. 30, 2006, 1:19 p.m. CST
After BATMAN and PEEWEE'S BIG ADVENTURE, my favorite Elfman score is the one for BACK TO SCHOOL.
Nov. 30, 2006, 2:07 p.m. CST
He has a recognizable style (that you can even hear in the Simpsons-Theme!), but John Williams got that too.<br> BTW: Best Elfman-score = Beetlejuice!
Nov. 30, 2006, 2:47 p.m. CST
Everything else is a copy of that one score.
Nov. 30, 2006, 4:36 p.m. CST
we're losing so many masters it's depressing. nice review btw, If I were you I wouldn't have reviewed it. you know the kids will only talk trash about it. to them Zimmer and his synthesized repetitive garbage is what constitutes as real music
Nov. 30, 2006, 4:38 p.m. CST
people think the repeats of music from the first movie was his choice. I guess they don't know that he wrote a lot of music but was cut out because it wasn't close enough to the temp music.
Nov. 30, 2006, 5:05 p.m. CST
by Det. John Kimble
Yep, that's an Elfman score. And it roxxors.
Nov. 30, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST
Just listen to his soundtracks in chronological order to see (hear) how he's grown as an artist. He is one of the most creative composers in the business, especially with his opening themes (Mars Attacks, MIB, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory). I swear some people on this site think it's just cool to hate everything.
Nov. 30, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST
is incredible. But I'm sure most haters have never heard that one.
Nov. 30, 2006, 5:47 p.m. CST
I did hear about Shirley Walker. I wrote an article about it a couple of hours ago. Hopefully it'll get posted soon. BTW, thanks.
Nov. 30, 2006, 7:45 p.m. CST
mind-blowingly good! That alone puts him on the top list. He has consistently been interesting and compelling.
Nov. 30, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST
by Evil Hobbit
Hisaishi and Elfman indeed share a lot of similarities in the way they write music for film. I find one of the strongest things in Hisaishi's music his ability to create sweeping emotional music, crescendo upon crescendo by beautifull strings and humming brass but still being able to restraint the orchestra to not outdo themself. Elfman has a touch of doing this as well, peaces of Big Fish and the more rescent Corpse Bride pop in mind. I didn't had a chance to hear Dakota's vocal use in this score yet, it's still being shipped, but if it is like Hisaishi's use of children vocals in Miyazaki films I totally agree. And it fits the picture of restraint beauty. I remember a track from Nausicaa that was playing the theme in full orchestra only to suddenly hold back for a flashback where she stands alone in the valley as a young child. Highly rendered in warm colors using a children vocal in the score. It's such a peacefull and fruitfull addition that just made that scene more emotionally engaging then the average sentiment a lot of composers would write for it. It worked so well because aldo it reflects as a past that is long gone for Nausicaa and the memory of it is sad, the real emotion of it was a happy one. So the vocal was happy and warm. This way of writing is close to the characters and the story and I think Elfmans way of writing is also composing to tell the story in musical rendition. In this way you can always see the story when you listen to the music. A lot of times scores tend to only 'Mickey Mouse' the images onscreen and when listening to it at home you only relive a few moments of scenes instead of the story. A score like Elfmans or Hisaishi tend to do the last which makes the music and album a real joy to listen to at home. A truly great composer who for me belongs to one of the very best of our time.
Nov. 30, 2006, 9:57 p.m. CST
But you have great observations on film music. I'm a huge fan of Hisaishi and I never made the comparison between he and Elfman's work until this review. I agree with you on their similarities. It's been interesting to ponder. In CHARLOTTE'S WEB I don't think the child's vocal is used quite as prominently as Hisaishi would have taken it (I don't know though, it's only one phrase on the CD...maybe it's used more in the film) but it did strike me as something Hisaishi would have done if only for that moment. Nausicaa is a gorgeous score! As much as these two composers can get powerful it's indeed their restraint that I think makes them shine. Listen for that with Elfman's "Farewell Charlotte." It's so subtle but so incredibly powerful! Great post. Love the thoughts you planted in my brain.
Nov. 30, 2006, 11:40 p.m. CST
by Evil Hobbit
I love Hisaishi. His work on Miyazaki films is brilliant but I would also love to see him collaborate with Kitano again one day. Kikujiro, Hana-bi, Dolls. Great stuff.
Dec. 1, 2006, 3:29 a.m. CST
..other than just hating the few big genre ones you all know. Elfman has a LOT more going on than just superheroes & choirs. Check out "Black Beauty", "Sommersby", "Good Will Hunting"..even "Big Fish", then come back here and tell us he's doing the same score over & over - that's just ignorance. Try using your imaginations. It might hurt a little, but try.
Dec. 1, 2006, 9:30 a.m. CST
...buys and listens to a movie soundtrack? Go buy a Boards of Canada album and listen to some real music geeks.
Dec. 1, 2006, 9:33 a.m. CST
And Danny Elfman has indeed spent the last fifteen years rehashing the score to Edward Scissorhands.
Dec. 1, 2006, 10:36 a.m. CST
TIM BURTON thinks he's a visionary and won't stop making the same twiggy movie. When working with OTHER directors, Elfman can make new music.
Dec. 1, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST
Is it just me or is there a story about a composer or a particular score every day now? Don't get me wrong, composers are underrated...but are they really COOL in terms of movie geekdom? I mean, who gives a shit? If Bernard Hermann rises from the grave and scores something, hey, now THAT'S cool, but otherwise, come on... Best Boys and Gaffers are important to the making of a movie, too, but we don't have fifty articles on them here... I mean, I listen to classical music, but I don't think these discussions necessarily fit here. But that's just me.
Dec. 1, 2006, 7:15 p.m. CST
http://superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=4962 it's just a rumor at this point. he'll probably do what Zimmer usually does which is just right 2 or 3 themes and have Young expand those themes in the movie
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Dec. 1, 2006, 10:58 p.m. CST
Harry, you and your cheap ass fucking website, you need to UPGRADE!
Dec. 4, 2006, 2:32 a.m. CST
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May 20, 2007, 3:26 p.m. CST
this is fun