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Harry watches the Donner Cut of SUPERMAN II! What a wonderful geek moment!

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.






Just got finished watching Richard Donner’s SUPERMAN II which got released on DVD yesterday. I picked up the whole big SUPERMAN super set – and the two things I wanted to watch immediately was SUPERMAN II followed by SUPERMAN RETURNS. Why? Because Singer and crew meant for SUPERMAN RETURNS to be seen after this cut. And frankly – I dearly loved SUPERMAN II, the theatrical cut overseen by Richard Lester – only… I hated all the bullshit stuff he pulled.

Well, you see – I was a film addicted geek back a billion years ago – and I remember reading in STARLOG or some similar magazine at the time. It came out right after SUPERMAN the movie did – and it talked about the toppling of the Washington Monument in D.C. That shot – which Burton played with so wonderfully in MARS ATTACKS! Had otherwise been just a forgotten enzyme in my mind until today. Watching it topple filled me with delight.

However, more so – all the BS random powers like replicating Superman and that mind-numbingly lame Super Kiss…. GONE. The fight in Metropolis is slightly grander but in particular – Supes being tossed into Lady Liberty’s torch, instead of a building was awesome. Just about everything about the film is tighter and less goofy.

Is it perfect – Oh god no. You see, while this may be Richard Donner’s intended cut of the elements that he shot back while shooting SUPERMAN the movie… There’s several things that he wanted to reshoot and develop when he was supposed to go back to work on it after the release of SUPERMAN. Sadly – Donner never had that opportunity.

What would Donner have done with the very end of the film? That’s something that we’ll probably never really know. However, what this is – is a cleaned up version of what would have been Donner’s starting cut of SUPERMAN II, prior to doing the reshoots and film completion.

The ending where SUPERMAN reverses the planet backwards to before the Phantom Zone was broken – thus repairing all the damage that Zod and crew inflicted upon the Earth, going back to a Lois that didn’t suspect Clark as being Superman – and sure – it’s a knock off from the first film -- but dear god it’s better than multiple Supermen in the Fortress and the Magic Super Kiss. Which have always driven me crazy.

Gone is the Paris opening, the Niagara jump and a lot of the shoddy sequences from the Theatrical cut that drove me bats.

The film has loose ends and some things that needed desperately to be filled in by anyone that wasn’t camping it up ala Lester. But the goofiness of the made up superpowers being gone is just great.

I miss Superman flying to make the diamond and a few brief moments that Lester was responsible – but this rough unfinished version is a vast improvement. Sticking to what Kryptonians can do. For real. Not made up stuff. (I’m fully aware of the irony I’m running around with)

But as the end of the film played out – I had this amazing tidal wave of Nostalgia - just watching it all play out – things that I had heard hinted at over the last 26 years or so. Rumored scenes, Brando’s final farewell… it’s just a blessing. A true blessing.

I’m SO amazed to finally be able to see this. It may not be perfect – but it is as close to the original intentions of Donner, Reeve and Brando – their performances and Donner’s direction. Excellent work.

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by boyblue
Nov 29th, 2006
02:34:33 AM
Thanks to Superman cinema, capedwonder and the fans.
by Darth Fart
Nov 29th, 2006
02:36:32 AM
WOO-HOO, Cant wait!!
by boyblue
Nov 29th, 2006
02:38:02 AM
Third
by DarthMusashi2112
Nov 29th, 2006
02:39:42 AM
5th
by mattthebat
Nov 29th, 2006
02:42:27 AM
So let me get this right
by Phategod1
Nov 29th, 2006
02:42:54 AM
Turning back the world
by YackBacker
Nov 29th, 2006
02:46:35 AM
What needs to happen now.....
by Jay Jay
Nov 29th, 2006
02:49:00 AM
WARNING RE: SUPERMAN DVD Set
by YackBacker
Nov 29th, 2006
02:53:19 AM
Great movie if you look beyond the bad special effects
by PaddyIrishman
Nov 29th, 2006
03:07:04 AM
I got first!!
by boyblue
Nov 29th, 2006
03:13:51 AM
'Good' as the first Supes film was...
by Ghostball
Nov 29th, 2006
04:31:19 AM
OOOOOKKKKK
by Phategod1
Nov 29th, 2006
04:37:13 AM
What do you mean, my colon sucks...
by Ghostball
Nov 29th, 2006
04:46:01 AM
Harry is this your utopian vision of the prequel of SR.
by Im_spartasoth
Nov 29th, 2006
04:53:04 AM
Can I ask something?
by pandamaster83
Nov 29th, 2006
05:02:00 AM
What about the truck driver?
by YourDaddy
Nov 29th, 2006
05:04:59 AM
Also
by pandamaster83
Nov 29th, 2006
05:08:27 AM
Harry, with all due respect...
by TheBigDogg
Nov 29th, 2006
05:23:24 AM
Harry Just to make things Clear...
by Donnie_Drunko
Nov 29th, 2006
05:24:32 AM
Oh yeah...
by TheBigDogg
Nov 29th, 2006
05:25:18 AM
The Donner Cut
by Jay Jay
Nov 29th, 2006
05:29:06 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TURNING BACK THE WORLD
by YourDaddy
Nov 29th, 2006
05:45:25 AM
I always found the Super kiss to be a bit goofy...
by RighteousBrother
Nov 29th, 2006
05:53:22 AM
I always found the kiss to be goofy too
by pandamaster83
Nov 29th, 2006
06:03:24 AM
I might buy it now
by Black Satin 2
Nov 29th, 2006
06:06:31 AM
Wasn't the diamond thing in Superman III?
by RighteousBrother
Nov 29th, 2006
06:43:37 AM
QUESTION...
by BanAllFIRSTPosters
Nov 29th, 2006
06:45:14 AM
Ok, geeks be damned...
by PCMODEMTCG
Nov 29th, 2006
06:56:16 AM
I agree...
by zacdilone
Nov 29th, 2006
07:14:19 AM
I'm baffled by anyone who hates Superman Returns.
by Frijole
Nov 29th, 2006
07:37:37 AM
RighteousBrother...
by Randall Flagg
Nov 29th, 2006
07:53:34 AM
I liked it at age 13, but now it sucks
by Rupee88
Nov 29th, 2006
07:58:29 AM
I will say this about Superman II: The Donner Version
by mrfan
Nov 29th, 2006
08:02:10 AM
I, too, am baffled
by Franklin T Marmoset
Nov 29th, 2006
08:11:46 AM
Superman Returns DVD
by BanAllFIRSTPosters
Nov 29th, 2006
08:17:11 AM
ID4 Syndrome
by Rupee88
Nov 29th, 2006
08:18:01 AM
Frijole
by YackBacker
Nov 29th, 2006
08:26:29 AM
well said Frijole...
by awesomegeek
Nov 29th, 2006
08:29:14 AM
Spinning earth.
by Gilkuliehe
Nov 29th, 2006
08:53:44 AM
I thought Superman Returns was fantastic
by Rapmaster C
Nov 29th, 2006
08:55:47 AM
Since when is the Statue of Liberty in Metropolis?
by TheAFLACDuck
Nov 29th, 2006
09:14:16 AM
Superman Returns stinks
by kwisatzhaderach
Nov 29th, 2006
09:24:37 AM
Mulitple Supermans? WTF
by DigitalDong
Nov 29th, 2006
09:26:16 AM
My take (I'm probably wrong)
by pandamaster83
Nov 29th, 2006
09:46:30 AM
DigitalDong
by DarthHomercles
Nov 29th, 2006
09:51:22 AM
Now the movie doesn't make sense
by performingmonkey
Nov 29th, 2006
09:57:54 AM
Good God, that poem sucked...
by Billyeveryteen
Nov 29th, 2006
10:06:04 AM
GuyLombardo - I sort of agree with you
by www.valiens.com
Nov 29th, 2006
10:07:45 AM
Superman II: No Matter How Thin You Slice It...
by Spamgelus
Nov 29th, 2006
10:12:09 AM
best line ever...
by Mustache Wax
Nov 29th, 2006
10:14:35 AM
AFLAC, then YACK...
by Frijole
Nov 29th, 2006
10:17:32 AM
TheAFLACDuck
by Jay Jay
Nov 29th, 2006
10:30:10 AM
Super kid = nipples on batman
by Pipple
Nov 29th, 2006
10:31:08 AM
I don't know if it's been mentioned about the ending
by 3 Bag Enema
Nov 29th, 2006
10:34:04 AM
Jay Jay
by TheAFLACDuck
Nov 29th, 2006
10:38:48 AM
Mustache Wax
by Mustache Wax
Nov 29th, 2006
10:46:12 AM
Superman Returns hater.
by harrys_site_sucks
Nov 29th, 2006
10:54:24 AM
no super kiss is a nice improvement
by wolvenom
Nov 29th, 2006
11:01:23 AM
LEX LUTHOR
by THE KNIGHT
Nov 29th, 2006
11:08:54 AM
Superman II 2 Cast list
by KeithL
Nov 29th, 2006
11:10:59 AM
DUCKIE
by Frijole
Nov 29th, 2006
11:13:46 AM
The diamond thing was from "Superman III" Harry
by Mike_D
Nov 29th, 2006
11:13:56 AM
Superman Returns
by pandamaster83
Nov 29th, 2006
11:14:29 AM
SUPERMAN RETURNS was fantastic!
by leeVSbenway
Nov 29th, 2006
11:15:18 AM
I meant
by pandamaster83
Nov 29th, 2006
11:15:36 AM
PANDA
by Frijole
Nov 29th, 2006
11:17:24 AM
Glad to see at least some love for SR.
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 29th, 2006
11:28:56 AM
ZombieSolutions
by pandamaster83
Nov 29th, 2006
11:29:07 AM
No Paris opening?
by Zarles
Nov 29th, 2006
11:37:24 AM
Frijole
by YackBacker
Nov 29th, 2006
11:39:38 AM
Re: TheAFLACDuck - Statue of Liberty
by kilerb
Nov 29th, 2006
11:43:09 AM
Harry, by the way...
by kilerb
Nov 29th, 2006
11:45:10 AM
YACK
by Frijole
Nov 29th, 2006
11:45:29 AM
Hey kilerb
by Jay Jay
Nov 29th, 2006
11:55:03 AM
If memory serves me,
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 29th, 2006
12:06:06 PM
Sorry kilerb...
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 29th, 2006
12:07:22 PM
My favorite moment of the Donner Cut...
by DarthSnoogans
Nov 29th, 2006
12:15:18 PM
luthor being out of jail i sr
by phoenixmagi
Nov 29th, 2006
12:19:43 PM
SR - Just plain boring
by toadkillerdog
Nov 29th, 2006
12:27:03 PM
never mind
by phoenixmagi
Nov 29th, 2006
12:31:30 PM
Lex Luthor...
by AnakinsDiapers
Nov 29th, 2006
12:40:42 PM
The diamond is from Superman 3
by matthooper8
Nov 29th, 2006
12:50:30 PM
Enough with the TURNING EARTH BACKWARDS!
by Jack Parsons
Nov 29th, 2006
01:16:33 PM
An Apologists Explanation for Spinning the World Back
by Village Idiot
Nov 29th, 2006
01:20:23 PM
Re: Village Idiot
by toadkillerdog
Nov 29th, 2006
01:45:35 PM
fuck jack parsons
by phoenixmagi
Nov 29th, 2006
01:48:01 PM
Seen it and overall...not bad
by sith-vol
Nov 29th, 2006
02:02:50 PM
Never said it was a good plot idea
by Jack Parsons
Nov 29th, 2006
02:07:19 PM
YOU GUYS SUPRISE ME
by THE KNIGHT
Nov 29th, 2006
02:08:01 PM
And the world "spun back"
by Jack Parsons
Nov 29th, 2006
02:11:04 PM
And
by Jack Parsons
Nov 29th, 2006
02:22:09 PM
Happy for the option!
by Wilks
Nov 29th, 2006
02:25:19 PM
RICHARD DONNER RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!
by IndyCollector
Nov 29th, 2006
02:33:52 PM
Time travel and SR
by Cl_Kilgore
Nov 29th, 2006
02:53:40 PM
Explain
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
02:54:51 PM
Superman Franchise
by BobParr
Nov 29th, 2006
02:57:05 PM
HE SPUN THE PLANET BACKWARDS GET OVER IT
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
02:57:46 PM
I like the "lame" Super Kiss.
by DarthCorleone
Nov 29th, 2006
03:05:24 PM
Hey, frijole
by QuinnTheEskimo
Nov 29th, 2006
03:11:55 PM
fuck jack parsons again
by phoenixmagi
Nov 29th, 2006
03:14:26 PM
Whoa there, kilerb ... calm down!
by TheAFLACDuck
Nov 29th, 2006
03:15:34 PM
CLASSY
by Frijole
Nov 29th, 2006
03:16:19 PM
One of my college professors looked like Margot Kidder.
by GibsonUSA Returns
Nov 29th, 2006
03:27:31 PM
BTW, Superman 1-2 & Returns were all good...
by GibsonUSA Returns
Nov 29th, 2006
03:30:43 PM
Toadkillerdog
by Village Idiot
Nov 29th, 2006
03:49:02 PM
Village idiot
by toadkillerdog
Nov 29th, 2006
04:01:44 PM
Multiple Supes
by AragornElfstone
Nov 29th, 2006
04:03:12 PM
Classy and good are two different things
by AnakinsDiapers
Nov 29th, 2006
04:16:53 PM
Superman Returns sucked donkey balls.........
by Kai_Mah'gra
Nov 29th, 2006
04:24:04 PM
my online weekly dvd holiday updates {11/28}...
by jig98
Nov 29th, 2006
04:24:31 PM
and to everyone who wants alan rickman for zod...
by jig98
Nov 29th, 2006
04:30:47 PM
Jeremy Irons is good too
by QuinnTheEskimo
Nov 29th, 2006
04:46:20 PM
Please no Zod
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
04:59:08 PM
Re: Superman Returns sucked donkey balls.........
by GibsonUSA Returns
Nov 29th, 2006
05:07:58 PM
Pardon My Love For SR
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
05:12:04 PM
I've been Robbed!
by darkslab
Nov 29th, 2006
05:46:16 PM
leeVSbenway
by kwisatzhaderach
Nov 29th, 2006
05:51:15 PM
I think the Lester version sounds better.
by TomBodet
Nov 29th, 2006
05:57:25 PM
GibsonUSA Returns : Newsflash......
by Kai_Mah'gra
Nov 29th, 2006
06:09:27 PM
aicn blah blah
by TheRealDilbert27
Nov 29th, 2006
06:12:33 PM
"Wait, It Was Symbolic?"
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
06:21:17 PM
Needs a Phantom Edit
by Anakin Whoopass
Nov 29th, 2006
06:41:41 PM
They now need to go back ,,,
by dregmobile
Nov 29th, 2006
06:56:54 PM
Superman 2 was a complete train wreck no matter how you
by wolvenom
Nov 29th, 2006
07:01:38 PM
In conclusion:XMEN>2 SPIDEY>2 BATS>2 SUPES>1 HULK>0
by wolvenom
Nov 29th, 2006
07:08:36 PM
Toadkillerdog: Godspeed!
by Village Idiot
Nov 29th, 2006
07:25:00 PM
From a comic standpoint SR was horrible
by Pete_Da_Geek
Nov 29th, 2006
07:35:30 PM
HEY NOW
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
07:35:49 PM
Village Idiot: I do get it, just don't like it.
by toadkillerdog
Nov 29th, 2006
08:06:43 PM
From any standpoint Returns was horrible...
by Pipple
Nov 29th, 2006
08:09:42 PM
sure enough
by darkslab
Nov 29th, 2006
08:17:26 PM
Um...Harry? You contradicted yourself here, sir
by theguybehindtheguy
Nov 29th, 2006
08:31:38 PM
Parker Posey should have been Lois Lane
by SithMenace
Nov 29th, 2006
08:36:26 PM
They should have kept Singer for X3
by SithMenace
Nov 29th, 2006
08:44:11 PM
Praise for Supe Returns
by Aluccard
Nov 29th, 2006
08:55:21 PM
The One thing bothered me about superman
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
09:07:21 PM
Returns
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
09:07:58 PM
MELTING OWL & UNSOCIABLE HAMMER!!!
by Shermdawg
Nov 29th, 2006
09:32:52 PM
Okay, "compute" was a bad choice of words
by Village Idiot
Nov 29th, 2006
09:38:54 PM
Yes, if Singer had stayed with X-men...
by Shermdawg
Nov 29th, 2006
09:52:46 PM
Sure SR wasn't great...
by Billyeveryteen
Nov 29th, 2006
09:55:52 PM
Sherm 100% right
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
10:18:09 PM
Phategod2
by Shermdawg
Nov 29th, 2006
10:29:19 PM
Super Kiss My Ass
by Toshiro Kurasawa
Nov 29th, 2006
10:41:43 PM
Harry makes NO SENSE
by KCMOSHer
Nov 29th, 2006
10:41:59 PM
And regarding Scott in X3...
by Shermdawg
Nov 29th, 2006
10:42:45 PM
Correction...
by Shermdawg
Nov 29th, 2006
10:44:47 PM
I'm ok with Supes reversing th earths rotation...
by Shermdawg
Nov 29th, 2006
10:49:36 PM
I saw S2RDC last night.
by DarthSaul666
Nov 29th, 2006
10:53:02 PM
That he did
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
10:57:13 PM
Hey Sherm That was a Klingon death yell
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
10:59:56 PM
I haven't read anything yet
by thebearovingian
Nov 29th, 2006
11:21:38 PM
super returns loved it even more on dvd
by skiff
Nov 29th, 2006
11:23:42 PM
Who Could Play Darkseid & Kalibak.
by Phategod2
Nov 29th, 2006
11:37:27 PM
TheAFLACDuck/Statue Of Liberty 2
by kilerb
Nov 30th, 2006
12:07:18 AM
The Fantasticar is revealed:
by Forestal
Nov 30th, 2006
12:08:49 AM
who cares about fantastic four
by Pipple
Nov 30th, 2006
12:37:50 AM
Lester or Donner's cut??
by Kenny8
Nov 30th, 2006
12:40:55 AM
Abram's Trek
by SithMenace
Nov 30th, 2006
12:45:20 AM
Superman vs The New Gods
by DarthSaul666
Nov 30th, 2006
01:01:37 AM
SUPERMAN VS HORSE
by greekopa
Nov 30th, 2006
01:36:19 AM
Save Darkseid for the WORLD'S FINEST MOVIE
by YackBacker
Nov 30th, 2006
01:37:07 AM
That would be very Interesting
by Phategod1
Nov 30th, 2006
02:07:54 AM
No matter what anyone thinks of Donner's cut...
by Orionsangels
Nov 30th, 2006
02:12:42 AM
THE KID THE KID THE blasphemous KID!!!!
by CarmillaVonDoom
Nov 30th, 2006
02:13:04 AM
Is there any way to get Singer OFF SR2?
by CarmillaVonDoom
Nov 30th, 2006
02:21:24 AM
Family Guy
by Orionsangels
Nov 30th, 2006
02:21:58 AM
I know this is not a Traditional Forum but one ?
by Phategod1
Nov 30th, 2006
02:22:37 AM
My pecks are MANLY, Yessssssss?
by Pipple
Nov 30th, 2006
02:44:33 AM
Sherm, I 100% disagree re: Singer on Trek
by YackBacker
Nov 30th, 2006
05:27:58 AM
"Turning back time" is a PERFECT comic book moment!
by Bob Cryptonight
Nov 30th, 2006
07:38:14 AM
Superman Returns & Batman Begins both sucked
by Bill Clay
Nov 30th, 2006
07:40:30 AM
I have to agree with Bill
by arghhhhhhhh
Nov 30th, 2006
08:14:45 AM
Begins was shakespearian compared to batman and robin
by Pipple
Nov 30th, 2006
08:34:14 AM
Someone should cut both versions into an Ultimate Cut
by SpyGuy
Nov 30th, 2006
08:37:44 AM
VENOM
by _Kayser_
Nov 30th, 2006
08:48:03 AM
One scene that needed to go
by Knobules
Nov 30th, 2006
10:17:41 AM
OK, Harry, here's a question...
by Arch Nemesis
Nov 30th, 2006
10:17:46 AM
i still dont get people who think begins was worse than
by wolvenom
Nov 30th, 2006
11:16:22 AM
Donner's cut may have it's problems, but
by Snookeroo
Nov 30th, 2006
11:27:37 AM
Superman Ain't Perfect? Whaaaahhhh???
by poutineman
Nov 30th, 2006
11:29:59 AM
its very simple
by misnomer
Nov 30th, 2006
11:32:14 AM
After watching SR on DVD last night
by YackBacker
Nov 30th, 2006
11:38:58 AM
Yack & Redressing sets
by NoHubris
Nov 30th, 2006
11:43:13 AM
Where is MetalWater??? WTF???
by anchorite
Nov 30th, 2006
11:44:32 AM
well misnomer you're in the minority...
by wolvenom
Nov 30th, 2006
11:55:38 AM
NoHubris, excellent point re: GLADIATOR
by YackBacker
Nov 30th, 2006
12:00:03 PM
Yack, SR was a perfect example of...
by NoHubris
Nov 30th, 2006
12:13:39 PM
YACK...
by Frijole
Nov 30th, 2006
12:20:59 PM
Routh? Fantastic? Wha?
by Shermdawg
Nov 30th, 2006
12:38:59 PM
Frijole, did you watch the deleted scenes yet?
by YackBacker
Nov 30th, 2006
12:39:06 PM
Sherm, he's no MELTING OWL, but...
by YackBacker
Nov 30th, 2006
12:41:42 PM
wolvenom, minority is neither here nor there
by misnomer
Nov 30th, 2006
12:51:12 PM
if you cant be arsed reading the above then
by misnomer
Nov 30th, 2006
01:00:16 PM
The G&B of SR...
by Shermdawg
Nov 30th, 2006
01:02:41 PM
Routh
by Frijole
Nov 30th, 2006
01:02:47 PM
Thanks for the shout-out, Village Idiot!
by Dave_F
Nov 30th, 2006
01:12:47 PM
Sherm, you're a strange person
by YackBacker
Nov 30th, 2006
01:15:48 PM
Fuck SR, Pirates 2 next week.
by DigitalDong
Nov 30th, 2006
01:19:50 PM
1) THANKS YACK 2) THE SUIT
by Frijole
Nov 30th, 2006
01:27:59 PM
SR
by Cl_Kilgore
Nov 30th, 2006
01:41:21 PM
Sure, it's a copout, but in this case it's appropriate
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
02:02:32 PM
Routh was a terrible SuperMAN
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
02:06:39 PM
"Wow.Wow.Wow."...? More like [shrug], Feh, Whatever...
by Colegegraduit
Nov 30th, 2006
02:47:58 PM
Hey SuperN
by Phategod2
Nov 30th, 2006
02:54:57 PM
Batman and Batman Begins both sucked
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
03:03:51 PM
oh and SR part 2
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
03:14:14 PM
missing point
by darkslab
Nov 30th, 2006
03:32:40 PM
MrJJonz needs "Braniac" because he's low on fiber
by SpyGuy
Nov 30th, 2006
03:49:07 PM
Phate, I've given up on anything TF related.
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
03:51:02 PM
SpyGuy
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
04:06:39 PM
Superman Returns is...
by Kirbymanly
Nov 30th, 2006
04:13:57 PM
Superman would not leave Earth to go find
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
04:20:21 PM
What about Brainiac
by Phategod2
Nov 30th, 2006
04:24:11 PM
Superninja...
by Kirbymanly
Nov 30th, 2006
04:27:51 PM
Phategod2
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
04:29:28 PM
But he didn't know she was preggers
by Phategod2
Nov 30th, 2006
04:31:06 PM
I've never linked Rocky to Dragon Ball Z till just now
by Phategod2
Nov 30th, 2006
04:35:00 PM
Superman had known he was the last of his kind
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
04:43:47 PM
Braniac doesn't really interest me as a character.
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
04:56:41 PM
Besides, as we all now know, he could've made
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
04:59:22 PM
superninja
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
05:11:32 PM
MrJJonz
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
05:22:06 PM
Superninja
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
05:24:16 PM
I usually find something to like in all the superhero
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
05:29:51 PM
The plane is a beautiful moment
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
05:31:30 PM
Because people want their work to have their own
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
05:38:10 PM
fair point
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
05:42:58 PM
Lex's motives in SR
by zooch
Nov 30th, 2006
05:45:09 PM
Looking for Krypton fragments was idiotic
by westwood13
Nov 30th, 2006
05:47:03 PM
The ninnies who love formula won't focus on the
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
05:53:35 PM
Superman I and II
by zooch
Nov 30th, 2006
05:54:01 PM
Sorry - meant Batman Begins.
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
05:55:37 PM
The animated was and is
by MrJJonz
Nov 30th, 2006
05:56:08 PM
the animated series is juvenile
by zooch
Nov 30th, 2006
06:00:21 PM
Superman's motives
by zooch
Nov 30th, 2006
06:08:47 PM
True That Phantasm was great
by Phategod2
Nov 30th, 2006
06:17:04 PM
Not to oversimplify, but...
by Dave_F
Nov 30th, 2006
06:18:00 PM
The Animated Series is juvenile?
by superninja
Nov 30th, 2006
06:29:40 PM
Well, "juvenile" isn't necessarily pejorative...
by Dave_F
Nov 30th, 2006
06:34:34 PM
it IS a blockbuster film
by zooch
Nov 30th, 2006
06:42:10 PM
rather
by zooch
Nov 30th, 2006
06:44:55 PM
Just watched it...
by kilerb
Nov 30th, 2006
06:44:58 PM
YackBacker
by Shermdawg
Nov 30th, 2006
08:58:22 PM
I swear to god, I hate my keyboard...o IE7
by Shermdawg
Nov 30th, 2006
09:01:47 PM
God, people are dumb.
by ManosTHOF
Nov 30th, 2006
10:49:05 PM
Nevertheless...
by ManosTHOF
Nov 30th, 2006
10:58:09 PM
Parker Posey shoulda been Lois
by Spicypeanut
Nov 30th, 2006
11:27:15 PM
Mank and Donner on "Turning the World Back"
by Village Idiot
Nov 30th, 2006
11:36:50 PM
Max Fleischer's Superman...
by NoHubris
Nov 30th, 2006
11:50:25 PM
Donner > Lester
by GibsonUSA Returns
Nov 30th, 2006
11:58:48 PM
Village Idiot QFT
by Phategod2
Dec 1st, 2006
12:01:08 AM
just wondering
by bib fortuna
Dec 1st, 2006
12:05:05 AM
Its just a movie but I assumed that
by Phategod2
Dec 1st, 2006
12:05:36 AM
Superman Returns is pretty bad
by thebearovingian
Dec 1st, 2006
12:29:15 AM
Supersperm - impervious to the space/time continuum
by GibsonUSA Returns
Dec 1st, 2006
12:36:46 AM
Astronomy 101
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
12:50:03 AM
Yack, well said RE: Astronomy Plot Hole
by NoHubris
Dec 1st, 2006
01:02:55 AM
donner cut
by zooch
Dec 1st, 2006
01:33:46 AM
SR (yet again)
by Lost Prophet
Dec 1st, 2006
03:40:55 AM
SR is good! No, it is not good!
by Franklin T Marmoset
Dec 1st, 2006
05:27:34 AM
SR is pure shite. The Donner cut of II owns.
by darthbinks1220
Dec 1st, 2006
05:46:13 AM
the original absolutely stomps all over the immitation
by Pipple
Dec 1st, 2006
06:56:16 AM
Time Travel
by instant_karma
Dec 1st, 2006
07:43:17 AM
Kneel before Zod
by Mr_X
Dec 1st, 2006
08:28:18 AM
There's actually an entire superfriends episode
by Pipple
Dec 1st, 2006
08:32:57 AM
Wow Pipple.
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
08:45:06 AM
Superman Returns HD DVD have issues
by Knobules
Dec 1st, 2006
09:14:22 AM
Knobules, what format player do you have?
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
09:43:19 AM
TOO SOON!!
by Pageiv
Dec 1st, 2006
09:50:23 AM
Knobules
by Knobules
Dec 1st, 2006
10:11:02 AM
My only suggestion is to
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
10:35:43 AM
Enough with the Superman creaming
by Doctor_Sin
Dec 1st, 2006
10:58:19 AM
Multiple Supes...
by Kid Z
Dec 1st, 2006
11:18:55 AM
Jor-El SFX?
by riskebiz
Dec 1st, 2006
11:43:26 AM
XMas list
by radio1_mike
Dec 1st, 2006
12:38:24 PM
Superman turning back the earth
by Snookeroo
Dec 1st, 2006
01:00:56 PM
Saayyy Jim
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
01:11:12 PM
Captain Marvel would be cool...
by NoHubris
Dec 1st, 2006
01:28:25 PM
Lester is a much better director than Donner
by Krinkle
Dec 1st, 2006
01:28:47 PM
NoHubris
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
01:40:09 PM
Toadkillerdog: The DCU devoid of color? Except for...
by SpyGuy
Dec 1st, 2006
01:49:07 PM
SpyGuy, don't forget...
by Abin Sur
Dec 1st, 2006
01:55:41 PM
KRINKLE
by Frijole
Dec 1st, 2006
02:01:17 PM
DCU and Race
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
02:16:16 PM
If Superman can time travel, why fight any villian?
by GibsonUSA Returns
Dec 1st, 2006
02:25:51 PM
Toadkillerdog...
by Abin Sur
Dec 1st, 2006
02:28:40 PM
Wow Superman can basically do anything...sooo exciting
by Bong
Dec 1st, 2006
02:29:52 PM
And if he goes back in tiem then there would be 2 Supes
by Bong
Dec 1st, 2006
02:30:52 PM
Abin Sur: Steel
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
02:35:11 PM
Sorry for the misspelling SpyGuy
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
02:37:50 PM
TKD, I'll agree with that...
by Abin Sur
Dec 1st, 2006
02:56:20 PM
The Donner Cut...
by JonQuixote
Dec 1st, 2006
03:20:17 PM
I don't read comics anymore, Dave.
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
03:34:30 PM
What about Sampson and his dog that turns into
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
03:39:37 PM
I liked how the question of whether Superman would kill
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
04:11:11 PM
how could leave out the OMEN and the GOONIES
by zooch
Dec 1st, 2006
04:17:46 PM
toadkillerdog
by NoHubris
Dec 1st, 2006
04:47:23 PM
Great example, Superninja RE: Supes and Darkseid
by NoHubris
Dec 1st, 2006
04:51:30 PM
Superman II Donner Cut
by St. George
Dec 1st, 2006
05:12:21 PM
I think that Superman is capable of killing, but not
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
05:15:23 PM
I wouldn't like Superman as a...
by NoHubris
Dec 1st, 2006
05:50:17 PM
heroes not killing..
by bib fortuna
Dec 1st, 2006
06:24:52 PM
I don't remember most of DD, I blocked it out.
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
06:29:31 PM
If you think about it, Superman is a WMD
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
06:29:40 PM
Nah, Superman's a great guy.
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
06:38:14 PM
All snarkiness aside, I really don't want to see a film
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
06:43:54 PM
Yackbacker
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
06:44:32 PM
Why Luthor hates Superman.
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
06:52:20 PM
I think Nolan could do a WORLD'S FINEST on this issue
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
06:54:45 PM
toadkillerdog, superheroes are little morality plays.
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
06:58:52 PM
Re: Why Luthor Hates Superman
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
07:02:08 PM
Yack, the DCU and MU are hardly different
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
07:04:00 PM
Too many darned cross-overs!
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
07:07:08 PM
I don't identify with Vader, Khan or Luthor.
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
07:09:55 PM
However, you are on to something with the
by superninja
Dec 1st, 2006
07:13:01 PM
Superninja
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
07:17:43 PM
superninja, you are obviously not a villainous person
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
07:18:37 PM
Some chests should remain hidden
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
07:22:39 PM
toadkillerdog, Nick Meyer says those pecs were real
by YackBacker
Dec 1st, 2006
09:22:30 PM
Lester might be a better director than Donner, BUT-
by Bob Cryptonight
Dec 1st, 2006
09:31:21 PM
It actually has *heart*!
by Mutant Leader
Dec 1st, 2006
09:43:02 PM
Shatner's bald????!!!!
by toadkillerdog
Dec 1st, 2006
09:47:39 PM
Luthor hates Superman...
by JonQuixote
Dec 1st, 2006
10:40:21 PM
Thank God I Didn't Buy a Ticket For This One!
by Elric67
Dec 2nd, 2006
01:00:44 AM
Actually, JQ, that's why I hate Superman too.
by Dave_F
Dec 2nd, 2006
03:11:51 AM
Wow.
by Dave_F
Dec 2nd, 2006
03:12:33 AM
Oh, and VI...
by Dave_F
Dec 2nd, 2006
03:17:51 AM
Superninja...
by Dave_F
Dec 2nd, 2006
03:27:03 AM
Had Potential
by Philvis
Dec 2nd, 2006
08:36:47 AM
If you think Lester contributed ANYTHING good
by Snookeroo
Dec 2nd, 2006
08:57:14 AM
Superman Needed New Powers In SR
by Red Lantern
Dec 2nd, 2006
09:34:03 AM
I just (re)watched SUPERMAN III
by JonQuixote
Dec 2nd, 2006
11:08:08 AM
Agreed, BringingSexyBack
by JonQuixote
Dec 2nd, 2006
12:18:06 PM
Doesn't matter which version of Superman 2 you see.
by mrfan
Dec 2nd, 2006
12:33:33 PM
Mr. Fan, here's your explanation...
by Kirbymanly
Dec 2nd, 2006
06:47:08 PM
Actually Lois lied to Luther
by Phategod1
Dec 2nd, 2006
09:38:18 PM
Richard is the LEGAL father.
by GibsonUSA Returns
Dec 3rd, 2006
12:32:00 AM
as a someone who riles on this crap daily
by Phategod1
Dec 3rd, 2006
02:38:10 AM
Rules
by Phategod1
Dec 3rd, 2006
02:38:57 AM
Okay Kirbymanly,
by mrfan
Dec 3rd, 2006
08:25:21 AM
Non is actually the father of Lois' kid.
by GibsonUSA Returns
Dec 3rd, 2006
03:22:17 PM
He Did the kiss thing Twice
by Phategod1
Dec 3rd, 2006
07:04:51 PM
Superman special effects have not aged well at all....
by GibsonUSA Returns
Dec 4th, 2006
02:16:22 AM
Maybe Singer will give AICN a shout out in SR 2.
by DigitalDong
Dec 4th, 2006
07:24:37 AM
Not a Fan
by joel_the_ghoul
Dec 4th, 2006
12:18:53 PM
Dave, I actually read a few issues of All-Star Supes
by superninja
Dec 4th, 2006
02:42:29 PM
Richard was more heroic and sexier than Superman
by superninja
Dec 4th, 2006
02:45:09 PM
What about all the product placements?
by Ingeld
Dec 4th, 2006
06:17:42 PM
Just watched Disturbing behavior again
by Phategod2
Dec 4th, 2006
08:49:18 PM
That should be the quote on the trade, Superninja.
by Dave_F
Dec 4th, 2006
11:06:32 PM
Marsden's a pretty good actor.
by JonQuixote
Dec 4th, 2006
11:37:11 PM
Or Titano.
by JonQuixote
Dec 4th, 2006
11:37:35 PM
That was the whole point of Richard being a "good guy".
by Frijole
Dec 5th, 2006
09:23:18 AM
And DIGITALDONG...
by Frijole
Dec 5th, 2006
09:26:18 AM
No matter how ya slice it...
by Dave_F
Dec 5th, 2006
10:31:47 AM
I simply don't agree...
by Frijole
Dec 5th, 2006
10:46:22 AM
I agree, Mardsen is a very good actor.
by superninja
Dec 5th, 2006
01:38:35 PM
It didn't really feel like a Superman movie to me.
by superninja
Dec 5th, 2006
01:48:51 PM
I didn't say that...
by Frijole
Dec 5th, 2006
03:02:01 PM
what a dig on Batman
by Phategod1
Dec 5th, 2006
03:54:20 PM
You're DEAD WRONG, Frijole.
by Dave_F
Dec 5th, 2006
04:45:00 PM
Dave
by Frijole
Dec 5th, 2006
06:20:29 PM
Frijole what if they (do something) to the Kid
by Phategod1
Dec 5th, 2006
09:01:04 PM
Not to be going on about this, but to do that you
by superninja
Dec 5th, 2006
11:17:15 PM
I buy it, you don't...
by Frijole
Dec 6th, 2006
06:07:42 AM
A silly, pandering interview by Singer
by YackBacker
Dec 6th, 2006
09:16:02 AM
I have some news for you...
by SK909
Dec 6th, 2006
11:14:00 AM
Yack, do you think Singer thought he'd rope in
by superninja
Dec 6th, 2006
12:05:13 PM
BizarroJerry
by BizarroJerry
Dec 6th, 2006
12:18:40 PM
BizarroJerry, I would look at it symbolically
by superninja
Dec 6th, 2006
12:43:41 PM
Superninja
by YackBacker
Dec 6th, 2006
01:42:37 PM
His X-Men films don't bother me so much.
by superninja
Dec 6th, 2006
03:04:08 PM
I think Singer makes a boring genre picture
by YackBacker
Dec 6th, 2006
03:34:58 PM
It moved into the Crapper
by Phategod2
Dec 6th, 2006
04:18:02 PM
I like X-3 the best of the X-Men films.
by superninja
Dec 6th, 2006
04:18:17 PM
Was there any action scene in X3
by Phategod2
Dec 6th, 2006
04:25:56 PM
Phate
by superninja
Dec 6th, 2006
05:13:24 PM
hey supes
by Phategod2
Dec 6th, 2006
05:16:05 PM
They could cut and paste the cartoon versions into
by superninja
Dec 6th, 2006
05:23:40 PM
me too
by Phategod2
Dec 6th, 2006
05:44:55 PM
I am referring to the pacing and plot of these movies
by YackBacker
Dec 6th, 2006
05:51:22 PM
Phategod2, about that Murphy thing
by YackBacker
Dec 6th, 2006
05:55:21 PM
about him
by Phategod2
Dec 6th, 2006
06:32:08 PM
Agreed about the misuse of CGI. When it works
by superninja
Dec 6th, 2006
06:46:39 PM
It's all the lack of imagination of Hollywood
by Phategod2
Dec 6th, 2006
07:46:29 PM
Quest for Peace better than Returns?
by Mojo-Wan
Dec 7th, 2006
12:21:33 AM
X3 better than X1 AND X2?
by GibsonUSA Returns
Dec 7th, 2006
12:22:23 AM
This would have been the definitive version...
by WONKABAR
Dec 7th, 2006
03:20:49 AM
Yeah, there's little arguing that Quest For Peace
by Frijole
Dec 7th, 2006
06:31:17 AM
My favorite X-men action scene
by DigitalDong
Dec 7th, 2006
03:26:12 PM
finally watched it....
by xenaman
Dec 10th, 2006
01:28:24 AM
I admit it...Donner's Superman II sucks.
by thecat
Dec 10th, 2006
11:29:27 AM
Donner Cut > Lester Cut
by DarthDooku
Dec 11th, 2006
07:00:42 PM
So, you think turning-back the world makes no sense?
by Mutant Leader
Dec 13th, 2006
09:41:44 AM
OK, so I'm late to this
by Jaka
Dec 29th, 2006
09:04:04 PM
Superman Returns?
by Damer1
Jan 1st, 2007
07:36:12 PM
Donner blows
by Moon_Knight
Jan 11th, 2007
10:46:14 PM
and with that the 1980 movie is still superior
by Exeter
Jan 19th, 2007
01:55:02 AM

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