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This is the one bird you can't order with gravy this Thanksgiving! HARRY POTTER & THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX trailer is online!

Hey folks, Harry here... Once again, I haven't read any of the books, but to my eyes - this Harry Potter seems to want to kick ass on a gathering threat. First off - there seems to be magic galore around metropolitan areas, which has been a big NO-NO so far. Well, seems folks are riding broomsticks all over the city. That was definitely something I wasn't expecting. Also, Harry seems to be maturing. His haircut is no longer very boyish and his cheekbones are beginning to show. Seems he's growing up, been very interesting to watch this group of kids become young men and women on this film... something that just adds a layer of realism to this fantastic series. Here's the teaser trailer:

This is the one bird you can't order with gravy this Thanksgiving!!!

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  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST

    It's nothing special, and one thing is bugging me...

    by Bean_

    Dumbledore's Army are on brooms now... wtf? Where did the threstals go?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    looks pretty cool

    by purplemonkeydw

    little worried about that one bit with harry on the broom at the end...maybe it's just my monitor

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST


    by TheJake

    I'm sure I'll go see it when it comes out.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:26 p.m. CST

    they rode brooms

    by Jubba

    when going to the headquarters, though it was higher up in the clouds

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:28 p.m. CST

    good point bean

    by purplemonkeydw

    where are the muthaeffin thestrals?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Jubba, re-read the book, they rode threstals!

    by Bean_

    They ruled out brooms because, if I remember correctly, only one person could fit on one and not everyone had one. D'oh!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:36 p.m. CST


    by Jubba

    are you sure? at the beginning when they first brought harry to the HQ i could have sworn they were on brooms but invisible cuz of someone's spell...and it was so cold in the air that harry thought his fingers would fall off or he'd lose his grip on the broom- i'll re check that at some point...i read it a while ago

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:43 p.m. CST

    "Once again, I haven't read any of the books"

    by Trazadone

    Do any of you ever get the feeling that Harry NEVER reads books?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Is it just me, or...

    by odysseus

    ...does this not look as eye-poppingly rich as the previous Harry Potter films? I feel like the compositions are lacking -- especially that shot of Dumbledore speaking with the person in the chair right behind his head.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    David yates

    by emeraldboy

    Said that Quidditch was out and for a while it looked like the Gary Oldman was out to too but they relented and now he is back again. This was an absolute whooper of a book and as along they dont SHOUT LIKE ANGRY TEENAGERS AND HAVE MRS WEASLEY TALKING LIKE THIS. I will be happy

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    lame trailer

    by waggy

    i love harry potter as much as the next geek, but talk about a bare-bones trailer (yes, i realize it was a teaser). this felt more like a tv spot than a theatrical trailer. weak sauce wb.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Not impressed

    by Monknee

    I have still to be captivated by this series.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Maggie Smith and Alan Rickman...

    by maggiesmith

    ...should have their own frigid, tongue-in-cheek, possibly period-sitcom or something. I watch and generally adore anything remotely to do with Dame Maggie Smith because she's the best thing on this planet (can't begin to get into it here), and I recommend you people go out of your way to find KEEPING MUM, with great performances by Rowan Atkinson, Kristin Scott Thomas, and (good for him!) Patrick Swayze. As far as I'm concerned, there can never be enough movies with Maggie Smith, or Alan Rickman (or Ian McKellen, while we're at it). Just to prove how selfishly indulgent I am, I would wish that there's still room in the Potterverse somewhere for Sir Ian McKellen and Ricky Gervais. Any other actor suggestions to add to this already still-too-good-to-be-believed Potter cast?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Natalia Tena as Tonks is The Sex

    by DOGSOUP

    That is all

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I recommend reading a book

    by steele8280

    Harry you should try reading a book once in a while... I mean no offense, but I think you'd like it (and I don't mean comic books, graphic novels, cook books or playboy's 50th anniversary book). It's almost like writing your reviews, but like at the other end of the spectrum... and without the talkbacks. If you read Order of the Phoenix now you'll even be able to forget it by the time the movie comes out!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Ooh... Helen Bonham Carter

    by Monknee

    I like. She's nice.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:50 p.m. CST

    They were on brooms going to the OotP HQ

    by chrth

    As for the Thestrals, they should film it so that only people in the audience who have seen people die can see them. That'd be impressive movie-making technology.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST


    by purplemonkeydw

    You're right, the members of the Order take Harry to Grimold Way via brooms (God, I'm such a nerd for knowing that). That said, they definitely weren't buzzing Parliament. Although, maybe I will's been a while since I've listened to George Clinton.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Who's Harry Potter?

    by graycove


  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Ooh... The Dark Sith Lord...

    by Monknee

    ...Hannibal Lector. Nice.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    Typecasting, thy name is Harry Potter

    by Mr Incredible

    How old will this guy be when all these movies are finished?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Very Much A Tease

    by georges garvaren

    as it has left me unsatisfied.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:09 p.m. CST

    The one thing that always sorta bothered me ...

    by TheAFLACDuck

    Is that the people who use magic in these movies always need a wand. Like they're completely useless without them or something. Seems to me a wand is a handy way of focusing magical energies ... but they're all WAY too dependent on 'em. Dr. Strange doesn't need any stinkin' wand and he's the Sorcerer Supreme!! Also ... not enough Hermione in this trailer.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Mr. Incredible....

    by AJH313

    not nearly as old as other actors who have played teenagers. How old was VanDenNuts on "Dawson's Creek"?. Come the Last Movie, Radcliff will be around 21, playing 18 (if they keep to the 18 months between movies).

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:13 p.m. CST

    I think that aint the thestral scene

    by Evil Hobbit

    I think it's...SPOILERSPOILERS...harry's escort to sirius place. The thestrals are probably still in it.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Damn you, Changing Death Eater Masks

    by TallBoy66

    They changed the Death Eater Masks from Goblet, didn't they? I don't remember them that well, but I do think they didn't look like that in movie #4. I think. Also, that Broomstick scene IS at the front of the book - the Order shows up at Harry's door after the Dementor attack, and promptly whisk him away. On Brooms. Not Thestrals.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:19 p.m. CST

    "magic in these movies always need a wand"

    by chrth

    Actually, they don't. There are several scenes in the movies where it occurs (I'm thinking of one scene in particular where Dumbledore lights some candles).

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Fuck you MCMLXXVI

    by Lamerz

    Your posts are lame and suck hard.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Looks Awesome

    by exie

    While the next book - Half Blood Prince - will be THE MOVIE of this series, I liked the looks of what I've seen here. This book always felt smaller than the others where not a lot happened until the end so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out on screen. That said, if they fuck up the end battle of Order of Phoenix it will be a letdown. The whole book is one slow buildup to that moment. Can't wait to see Longbottom kicking some arse.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:31 p.m. CST

    btw, the video look...

    by Evil Hobbit

    Those city shots, do they look video or what? Looks very HD. Don't like that realy. Let's hope I'm wrong, to much video look in that trailer.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:34 p.m. CST

    For the love of god....

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Someone tell me PLEASE that this director has kept Hermione's eyebrowns in check. In that last one, I swear, I thought she was going to fly away as hard as she was flapping those things! Otherwise, damn that looks great!!!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Thestrals WILL be in the movie...

    by Frijole

    Previous set reports have confirmed this. And when would this series ever back down in showing off a new creature (save for something dull like blast ended skrewts)? And where did anyone ever hear that they were cutting out Sirius? The bulk of the first act takes place in his house... I doubt it was an afterthought to just "add that back in"...

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Once again

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Someone get Harry (K) "Hooked on Phonics". Really HK, you should pick up a book every now and again. Like they say at Faber College, "Knowledge is Good".

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Hmm maybe I do like that realistic look

    by Evil Hobbit

    Makes it realy as if the wizard world is infiltrating our precious human environment. Jep, dig this big time. Give me tickets plz and a HD version of the teaser.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:43 p.m. CST

    The Malfoys are very important to the

    by emeraldboy

    series and anyone who has read book six know that much.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:45 p.m. CST

    I hate laptop keyboards

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Harry, if you get "Hooked on Phonics" I swear I'll check my spelling and try not to type too fast on this shitty keyboard. Hermy's Eyebrows must be kept in check or all is lost. Can't wait to see Sirius' pad. Or the Weasley boys fuck shit up. Or what's-her-name get it fed to her on a platter. Or the S.P.E.W. buttons (not likely). Here's something ELSE to chew on, Knowles...Sam Jackson is rumored to be in the running to play Derek Strange in the adaptation of George Pelecanos' "Right as Rain". If books hurt your head too much you can always pick up the CD audiobook version. You can get it, like I did, by walking down to the public library.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:45 p.m. CST

    BSB - Preemptive strike...

    by Lamerz

    ... and yes, MCMXXXC0CK is a little beeyotch constantly whining about Michael Bay. Grow up loser.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I was actually hoping, Harry...

    by Frijole

    ...that your intro to this article would give us some idea of your thoughts on GOBLET OF FIRE since the site was sorely lacking your review (on said movie) this time last year. Oh well.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST


    by EUROPA

    They don't need wands to do all magic. They cover that in the books. Wands are needed to do the more powerfull spells.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Best part of this movie should be...

    by skycrapper

    detenion with Umbridge and the pen that cuts into the back of Harry's hand as he writes. Very creepy stuff when I read it. They better keep that in the movie.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    Just Read The Books Harry

    by Lovecraftfan

    Don't worry they won't bite you.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Harry Potter Green Screen Challenge

    by AllieJamison

    Prisoner of Azkaban is the only really delicious Harry Potter film, so far. I haven't read any of the books. When the hype started I had the typically stupid and stubborn "If everyone's reading it, I won't" reaction. I really believe in the books' quality (contrary to THE DA VINCI CODE). But not, because of the movies I saw. It is because of all the people that have good taste and read them told me so. The movies offered little glimpses of that magical world, and a wonderful coming of age story. Still Prisoner of Azkaban is the only film that maintained the necessary thickness and atmosphere, that felt right and real. The other films, while, as I stated, here and there, having transcending moments, often felt wrong. I remember the first time I saw Voldemort, and how disappointed I was. But let's focus on the realism, that hopefully will be better in the next installment. Because that's exactly what I felt as being mostly wrong with the otherwise quite ...solid... last film. The whole thing wasn't real enough. The film lacked a grittyness in it's images. Hell, I even missed the feeling of the hero's sweat daring to pour out of the screen, 'cause that's the feeling some of those scenes deserved. Most of the images looked too clean, too "computer"... Just seeing them flying in front of those skylines and through our reality as it seems makes me excited, although that alone doesn't take away the problem of lacking grittyness. THIS WHAT WE SEE IN THIS TRAILER ISN'T WORTH THE EXPRESSION REALISTIC LOOK YET. let's hope the best though.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Dear Allie,

    by Frijole

    Can we refrain from the use of the word 'delicious'? We hear it enough from Harry as it is (in between his pre-pubescent "boobie boobie boobie slobber" rants) and ANYWHERE I see that word on this site makes me imagine Knowles with buffalo wing sauce matted into his beard and pieces of funnel cake stuck between his choopers. Thank you for your time. Love, Frijole

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    so um, is this a trailer?

    by quadrupletree

    or a "teaser". Looks kind of inbetween, shows more than a teaser but not a lot... I want to see more!!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Where do you get that Potter is an American kid? And the parallels between Gaiman's work and Rowling's are hardly concrete. They're two totally different stories. I'd say Harry Potter's structure has more in common with STAR WARS (though not nearly as much as ERAGON does) than with BOM or any of the other works that she's commonly accused of pilfering from. The hero's journey and the archetypes of myth are the basis for thousands of stories and books. And aside from a young wizard protagonist and the use of some of those archetypes, there really is no comparison. Rowling's gift is in her richly drawn characters and settings... all woven into a very complex (made moreso with each book when you see how the most minor things in one book can connect with something 2 and 3 books down the line) coming of age story. You can take that from a HUGE Gaiman fan (who actually sees more true parallels with NEVERWHERE than with BOM). Rowling didn't create mythology... she just writes it so well. Oh, and your grammar and spelling don't underline you as much of a literary critic. Yeah.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Director's Series

    by Larry of Arabia

    The last two movies benefited from some outstanding A list directing. This is a fantasy directors series. The next two should go to Peter Jackson and Spielburg.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Bored Haters = Malfoys

    by BirdMcMonster

    Snooty bastards with nothing better to do than to trash things that people enjoy and feel good about. Don't worry...bad guys always get what's coming to them. This looks great. I'm paying.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Christmas films

    by CeeBeeUK

    These were so much better Christmas releases... damn you WB!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Radcliffe better strip for those horsies, but soon

    by Lance Rock

    Sheesh, anytime lil Dan Radcliffe shares the screen with Alan Rickman, or any of the adults for that matter, he gets blown away. Let's hope Equss gives him some street cred.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Looks rubbish

    by kwisatzhaderach

    All these posters saying "looks awesome" - have you ever seen a proper film before?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:06 p.m. CST

    god knows i've tried and tried...

    by future help

    seen every one of these Harry movies...and there is something so phony, shallow, and no real danger about them. i will see the latest one too. it is an investment of interest? well...let this one click.?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:15 p.m. CST

    the good music is back!

    by TAF

    I hope the music clip at the end shows the return of the good music. The soundtrack to Goblet was horrible. Except for Harry's haircut, this movie looks like it might actually be good. Up to now, the books have been so much better than any of the movies with Prisoner & Goblet being especially horrible.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Any ideas for roles for the three kids once these

    by CreasyBear

    movies run out? I mean, to avoid typecasting? Or is that even possible at this point?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Did someone just say Prisoner of Azkaban was horrible?!

    by ZakChase

    'Cause it is, by far, the best the movies. Damn, they really need to bring Cuaron back for Half-Blood Prince.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST

    This trailer's about two months too early

    by Ribbons

    Which might explain the lack of substantial footage.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    If Radcliffe works out any more his neck is going to ex

    by half vader

    -plode! And Bacci40, if that really is the ending then fuck you boyo. How exactly do you get back at Warners or Rowling or whoever by fucking things up for us? There are people here that haven't read the books and want to enjoy the movies on their own merit. Arsehole. And at least Allie is probably a girl. They can actually say "delicious" "gorgeous", giggle and be giddy without turning stomaches. Unlike Harry.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Do NOT underestimate this instalment

    by performingmonkey

    This will be a completely different movie to those before it in a similar way that Alfonso Cuaron's Prisoner of Azkaban was different from Chris Columbus's kiddy first two flicks. There's serious character development for Harry here, and there's finally big revelations and tie-ups for the story as a whole. It's less action, less laughs, more intense drama, more adult. IMO Half-Blood Prince (the 6th book) was a slight step back in that respect, it felt like JK Rowling was trying to recapture the tone of earlier books rather than striving forward again. Anyhow, this will be the best movie without a doubt, maybe not the best in the little kids' eyes, but certainly the one that has the most potential to go down as an out-and-out classic. Mark my words.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I Still Haven't Seen One Of These Movies, Am I Too Late

    by The Ender

    To jump in and get started? They look super cool, but I just never took the chance to see one of these films or read the book. I'm a total noob. Are the good times over or is it worth the investment?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    stooopider, what a fucking loser

    by llac9

    I´m glad to see you used your precious time to post not once but several times in the TB how boring you think the HP movies are and at the same time admit you´ve watched them all.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    jeebus, harry

    by LegoKenobi

    read the books already! i swear -- easy reader wouldn't lie to you. reading's fun!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Harry Potter is gay!

    by Gorrister

    A REAL teenage boy would use his invisibility cloak to sneak into the girls showers!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    I agree, Harry. READ THE BOOKS!

    by Gorrister

    No offense dude, but with the books getting longer and longer, you are getting less and less of the story on the Big Screen. Personally, I'm surprised Prisoner of Azkaban and Goblet of Fire made ANY sense to anyone who didn't read the books! Ever wonder why Voldemort calls Petigrew "Wormtail" (the name Harry reads off the Mauraders Map?). Wonder how Sirius escaped from Azkaban? How about how Barty Crouch JR escaped? (Hint: He had help.....but NOT from Voldemort or any Death Eaters). How Sirius knew Petigrew was at Hogwarts? How Lupin and Snape knew Sirius was in the Shreiking Shack? Wouldn't you like to know what happens when Dudley Dursley meets Fred and George? Ever hear of Peeves the Poltergeist? (He's been in EVERY book so far....but no movies) How about Winky the House Elf (She was a HUGE character in Goblet of Fire). Hermiones SPEW obsessions are gone from the films, as in "Weasley is our King". Did you know Hermione had Harrys Firebolt Broomstick confiscated? Also, Harry had to share a box with the Malfoys at the World Cup, Crouch Jr and after Ron lost Scabbers, he acquired a VERY egomaniacal, hyperactive owl named "Pig". I enjoy the movies as much as anyone, but you HAVE TO READ THE BOOKS in order to fill in the blanks left by the omissions in the movies! If nothing else, grab the audiobooks! ;)

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6:47 p.m. CST

    The Ender

    by llac9

    I read most of the books in 2004, but never would have started if I hadn´t thought the second movie was clever. I thought the first movie was retarded and didn´t understand what the fuss was all about, but then I saw the second movie and thought "this explains alot" and borrowed the books from a couple of coworkers (all of them women...they love this shit). Of course it´s not too late to start. Just don´t get discouraged by the first movie/book. Just pace yourself. Don´t try to read/ see the movies back to back, just divide the number of books and/or movies (if you´re only going to do just one- read the books) by the amount of time left for the last book (or the next movie) to come out so you can at least experience some of the anticipation.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    THis look sweet.

    by flamingeyebrows

    Hopefully, they ditch the, 'lets cut everything except the action scenes' approach from GOF and go back to goodold character development like in POA. This one have the potential to be the best so far. They have the political intrigues (MOM and Hogwarts) the 'love to hate characters (Snape, Umbridge) the 'love to lust' characters (Hermione, Tonks) enough angst to choke a horse, some teenage bravado (Dumbledore's Army) and of course that famous death. Can't wait. I hope they pull it off.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Sexy back, I know what you mean, but read book 6

    by modlight

    Lemme just say that when I finished that book, Azkaban was on HBO the next day and I just sat there fuming at the tv everytime Malfoy was on, and another character who will remain nameless for those who haven't read it. And everyone should read the books, its the difference between the taster in the grocery store, and the meal.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 7 p.m. CST

    was it me...

    by Obscura

    or did the broomstick flying bits look very 'Superman'(1978)? seriously, i would have though we could easily do flying effects by now, its like the oldest trick in the effects book.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 7:04 p.m. CST

    At this point, Harry might as well not read the books

    by chrth

    Let him finish the movies, then after that he can read the books.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Gorrister: What are you talking about?

    by chrth

    He spent half his time in the girls' bathroom in Chamber of Secrets!<p> BTW, as an avid HP Reader, I think PoA is the only really good film so far. The others had some good stuff, but too many flaws to truly enjoy.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 7:10 p.m. CST

    I agree flamingeyebrows, Tonks is The Sex

    by DOGSOUP

    Naaataaaaliaaaa Tenaaaaa. In conclusion, MCMLXXVI is Michael Bay.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Reading the books, seeing the movies

    by half vader

    Bacci, you idiot - obviously I was AVOIDING them (the book spoilers). And you still didn't answer how fucking things up for me and people like me is revenge for Warners/Rowling, you little troll. _______________There's nothing wrong with just watching the movies to see if they stand on their own. I don't think many here who have already read the books can appreciate how insidious the movies are (well, the first two mainly) by being so slavish to the books yet not adapting them to the strengths and constraints of another medium. Whatever fuckwits like Bacci think about the books ripping off Books of Magic (I personally get the feeling they started off as figuratively the next gen of Enid Blyton but it's cool that they grow with the reader) which I liked too, you can't begrudge the acheivement of getting tons of kids to WANT to read or their parents to read to them, whatever. It's a wonderful thing but when you do a Columbus what's the only difference between the film and the book? - In the film you DON'T have to use your imagination! Basically it's a redundant advertisement for the book. Which is a terrible thing, although there's obviously a novelty in seeing what you've already imagined as evidenced by every single 'already read the book' audience member who laughed or grinned with recognition before the scene had hardly begun. And as far as them working as films, the first one is the worst with narrative dead ends and cinematic bumbling throughout. I loved the third one, and it actually worked AS A MOVIE. Yes I'm sure they left a ton of cool stuff out but like I said a book is a different beast. The best example of this is how Stanley Kubrick was right to change the third act of The Shining, as the book used inherently literary conceits. Anyway, I'm enjoying these films now and I'm sure I'll enjoy the books even more. Waiting 'til it's all over isn't a problem for me as I just don't have the time to get into the books for a good while yet. Speaking of which, back to work for me!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Oh P.S.

    by half vader

    Like I said, I haven't read the books. and the dictionary won't tell me. What's a threstal?

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 8:08 p.m. CST

    "been very interesting to watch this group of kids..."

    by slder78

    "...become young men and women." is Harry's code for wanting to bang Hermionie. Harry seriously, you're a sick bastard. I forsee a chemical castration and Meghan's Law in your future.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Harry in the Girls Bathroom

    by Gorrister

    Yeah, he did spend a lot of time in there.....but the only girls in there were Hermione and Myrtle....and the both knew he was in there! If Harry was straight, he'd be more interested in spying on the girls of Hogwarts instead of spying on Draco Malfoy!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Snape doesn't kill Dumbledore

    by Uwe Boll

    At least not in this movie.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    half vader

    by Ribbons

    Don't worry, that's not how it ends. Although somebody does die. ******** A "thestral" is a flying horse that can only be seen by anyone who's witnessed the death of another person. You know that shot in the previews for 'Prisoner of Azkaban' where it looks like the students are being pulled along on horseless carriages? They're actually hitched to thestrals. Harry can now see them because Cedric was murdered right in front of him, and before he discovers what they are he's initially freaked out that, all of a sudden, he's seeing these horses everywhere while nobody else even knows what he's talking about. It's a loose metaphor for how coping with death alters one's perspective on things. Near the end of the film, Harry and a bunch of other students ride the thestrals to the Ministry of Magic in London.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST


    by half vader

    Thanks mate.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Delores Umridge is far more odious than

    by Barry Egan

    the Malfoys. I want her to have a slow and painful death in book 7.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    QuickTime HD links

    by mattmcd

    Up at Yahoo! Movies:

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Hermione's eyebrows need their own..

    by Jugs

    warning system. Watch out she is about to 'act'.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Make each book a mini-series

    by veritasses

    on the SciFi channel and give it to a proven cast/crew with a good sized budget. Rowling can fund the whole thing herself if necessary. The books are simply to rich and deep to cram into a 3 hour movie.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Thats some kick ass Green screening with harry


    at the end there....reminds me of the green screen they put me in at the carnival when I was a kid. I still have the video of me flying through the mountains .....the city.. ahh the good ol days. <p><p>another harry potter movie I wont be seeing despite my fetish for vidual effects. Harry potter is as gay lord of the rings.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 12:41 a.m. CST

    why would i read jk rowling...

    by yassoo

    when i can read delilo, pynchon, lethem.... etc etc etc etc etc... Come on already.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Still think these worl best as Christmas movies

    by Sepulchrave

    Particularly since they keep pushing the 'darker and darker' theme. It's so cold and dark here right now and I could do with a magicky movie. I wish Daniel Radcliffe could do darker; he has all the blackening moral weight of a goldfish. He should be a tortured should well on his way to becoming the next Voldemort by now. Still, Helena Bonham carter is one pretty face that I've come to expect great things from and I like her punk Bride of Frankenstein look. If I was directing Radcliffe, i'd have made him do all those extreme dram aclasses where they scream constantly and throw buckets of cold vomit over you and make you regress to the fetal stage whilst beating you with razor wire. If he didn't improve as an actor, at least I'd have some fun.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:14 a.m. CST

    GOD, the Goblet of Fire ois BORING!

    by Sepulchrave

    I tried to watch it last night. Couldn't. Just nothing to latch onto. I can watch the Prisoner of Azkaban over and over, but GoF is dreary looking, aimless and free of any real mood.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:38 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    Couple of things: 1) Your "drama class" suggestion for Daniel Radcliffe just made soda go up my nose. 2) THANK YOU. Almost everybody I know thinks 'Goblet of Fire' is the best of the series, whereas it's probably worse than 'Chamber of Secrets' as far as I'm concerned.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Patronus Games

    by CyberVishnu

    This will rock your nuts loose! Order of The Phoenix will PAH-own you all! Harry better be a mean and unruly bastard for the movie or they haven't followed the book. Teaser looks the tits though!

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Pretty Ghey

    by hatespeech

    as ghey or gheyer than the others... meh

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Strange, I thought GoF was better than PoA

    by Gorrister

    ALthought Goblet of Fire is my least favorite book, I liked the movie adaptation better than Prisoner of Azkaban. I found the style in which that movie was made to be extremely annoying. I got sick of the whole "Iris-in/Iris-out" style of transition after the first ten minutes. And that fat, ugly, black kid whose only job is to recite melorama was EXTREMELY annoying "Catching Black is like trying to catch smoke with your bare hands!". Where the fuck did he come from? He wasn't in ANY of the novels. Was he the directors pet boy or something? And lets not even begin mentioning all of the plot holes left by this poor adaptation. Anyone who has not read the novel should have come out of that theater asking all sorts of questions (many of which I've already posted in this thread, so I won't repeat them here). Oh well. I do agree that Goblet of Fire is the weakest of the series story-wise. The whole purpose of the story is to change the direction of the Harry Potter series. While it isn't a bad novel, it definatley could have been better. (Why was it even called "Goblet of Fire"? That Goblet had very little to do with the story.)

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 2:54 a.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI must be a Harry Potter fan...

    by Ribbons

    ...he's made a special appearance in every 'Order of the Phoenix' TalkBack in the past week...

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Ribbons, MCMLXXVI is on EVERY TB

    by DOGSOUP

    I'm convinced it's Michael Bay himself. When Transformers comes out, he'll say something to the extent of "I was damning myself on every AICN TalkBack for months just to piss of the hating nerd crowd. I laugh everytime I hear "Michael Bay raped my childhood!"." We all know Michael Bay is insane so why not?

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 3:15 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    He's actually not though, if you go and look. I mean he's probably on the majority of them, but he consistently posts on the H@rry Potter ones.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Harry Potter: Revenge of the Sith!

    by LonelyComic33

    This story sound familiar!

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 3:29 a.m. CST


    by LonelyComic33

    sound = sounds

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Sepulchrave is right! GoF is shite.

    by scrumdiddly

    Also, I was thoroughly creeped out by the sight of underage Hermione glamorously walking down those stairs in slow motion. Were we supposed to fucking oggle?

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Alfonso Cuaron said he wants to do another Potter flick

    by pokadoo

    Apparently he's been chatting with David Yates & JK Rowling on the set of Phoinex, and he's still good friends with David Heyman (Potter producer). JK has stated that he is her favorite Potter director, and she really liked Children of Men. I read all this on Mugglenet or Leakycauldron, so it's looking pretty promising. Half Blood Prince starts shooting in 3-4 months time, and suddenly cuaron pops up, all matey, available & interested? COOL!!!

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 4:01 a.m. CST

    Well, I do like Cuaron's 'PoA'...

    by Ribbons

    ...although I'd sort of cottoned to the idea of Warner Bros. going out and finding a new director each time. Then again, I suppose one could do worse.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 5:06 a.m. CST

    I don't mind these flicks,

    by themanlikedave

    I enjoy them more for the way they keep the kids quiet for two and a half hours. Now THAT my friends, is worth paying for.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 5:50 a.m. CST


    by Cat_Corporation

    Harry Potter are Christmas movies dammit - release them at Christmas!!! Remember those hallowed years when we had LOTR and Potter in November and December? (Even though the early Potter films were a tad underwhelming...) Fingers crossed for this one, although I have to say, the teaser isn't quite pushing all my buttons - although hearing the little piece of score when the title comes up is always a pleasure.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 5:53 a.m. CST


    by Cat_Corporation

    Bonham-Carter looks pretty cool. Looking forward to the stuff hitting the fan towards the end...Hope Radcliffe can pull off the dramatics though!

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Books of Magic hardly original

    by ROBE

    Tim Hunter and the Books of Magic are hardly original, 2000AD had a story two years before Tim Hunter appeared called Summer Magic about a dark haired British Schoolboy called Luke Kirby who has magic powers. Likewise Terry Pratchett created a wizard with dark hair and glasses called Ponder Stibbons in 1990.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 6:14 a.m. CST

    HP shouldn't be Arthouse.

    by ROBE

    Of the 4 HP movies POA made the least amount of money at the box office. Cuaron should be left to do arthouse movies not mess around with a franchise. Hire a sensible director who has a smaller ego than the franchise.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 7:22 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    There you are! Same old song, huh? I've said time and time again that 'Prisoner of Azkaban' still made a ton of cash, was the best reviewed, and was generally liked by everyone I've spoken to. Box office is an inexact science (and calling it a "science" at all is pretty generous), and the fact that it made the least money out of the four proves very little. It was also the only movie of the four so far to have been released in the summer, and considering how many people on this TalkBack alone are clamoring for more winter releases for the Potter franchise due to lack of stimulation during the holiday season, you'd think there'd be a strong correlation there. But coincidence doesn't necessarily imply a direct relationship, now does it?

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 8:32 a.m. CST


    by James_O'Nasty

    Hermione's entrance wasn't as bad as when Harry K put up the hi-res pics of the Second Task and pointed out Fleur's camel-toe... And, Tonks was not that hot in the books!!! Lastly: Bellatrix has too much of a Rogue/Cruella De Vil look...unless Azkaban prematurely aged her.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST


    by Frijole

    I think she looks PERFECT as Bellatrix... and can barely believe she was replacement casting. She BELONGS in that fucking role!

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 9:20 a.m. CST

    His Dark Materials...

    by workshed

    Forget Narnia, Potter and Hobbit nonse-sense. Wait till Pullman's brilliance hits the screen and i reckon you'll all be able to move on and truly enjoy the three greatest books in 'children's literature'. The Dark Materials Trilogy is the antidote to the sub-Christian religious bullshit served up by Tolkien and Lewis. The witches in Order of the Phoenix trailer look like a complete rip-off of how i pictured Serafina Peccala. And, of course, J.K.Rowling (as much as i love the woman) had plenty of time to read 'Northern Lights' before she wrote 'Order'.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Frijole dead on, the Malfoys<--spoilers HP6

    by leesheri

    ***** HP 6 SPOILERS***** The Malfoys are victims as much as the Longbottoms and the rest of the wizarding world. Voldemort fed on their insecurities, and fears. Poor Draco, we saw ample evidence of his remorse for having put himself into that situation.(bk 6 crying in the bathroom, his poor health and the entire discussion with Dumbledore*sob*the best character to grace the written word) He was angry about his father and jumped into a tank of sharks without any thought. He wanted a way out, but didn't believe there was one. Mrs. Malfoy was awesome btw, her sister is a blind follower, but she was desperately trying to save her son. There will be a lot of redemption in the last book for sure. Don't count all of the villains out, not even Snape. There will be twists, that most won't realize were coming. Ugh, I love this series if only the little guy were old enough to appreciate them.*****end spoilers book6****

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 10:26 a.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Not sure why you directed that at me as I haven't said anything about the Malfoys in this thread... but regardless of that, I agree COMPLETELY. I've been debating with my Potter-friends since even before HBP came out that Draco will be redeemed and there were sooooo many obvious (and not so obvious) seeds planted to that effect in HBP, I'm shocked that so few agree.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 11:58 a.m. CST

    missing thestrals

    by B00STERG0LD

    I can't definitely identify anyone flying next to the ship in the trailer except for Harry, but if it is the Order escorting him to Grimmauld Place, why isn't Harry invisible?

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 12:03 p.m. CST

    I loved POA, but

    by Novaman5000

    Like I said before, Cuaron left out stupid things that should have been in it. Like the explaination of who created the maurader's map. That's a HUGE point of interest and he just ignored it. I would have taken 1 extra line of dialogue, too.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    hermione has tits!

    by wolvenom

    i'd tap that

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    HBP Should Be a Christmas Release

    by Uwe Boll

    POA was summer, GOF was winter, OotP is summer, so if they keep that pattern HBP should release in November.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Oh and Re: POA's box office

    by Uwe Boll

    I think it's the lowest because it has been the only summer release so far. I think this kind of movie just does better during holiday season. Phoenix will probably have the lowest box office of the series.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Meh, Harry Potter is garbage

    by Ricky Henderson

    and you people who like it make me giggle.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:39 p.m. CST

    as to Snape

    by harrys_site_sucks

    I really don't think he's the villian as book 6 portrays hime. He's just a part of Dumbledore's plan to defeat Voldemort. Hope I'm not proven wrong in the last book. By the way, books are 1000 times better than the movies

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:40 p.m. CST

    as to Snape

    by harrys_site_sucks

    I really don't think he's the villian as book 6 portrays him. More than likely Snape's just a part of Dumbledore's plan to defeat Voldemort. I see old Dumbledore pulling and Obi Won in the last story. Hope I'm not proven wrong in the last book. By the way, books are 1000 times better than the movies

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Gaiman has acknowledged the similarity

    by oisin5199

    but he's said that it was kind of collective zeitgeist thing - that many people had the same archetypal image in their heads at the same time. I'm definitely looking more forward to this than the last one, which had only slightly more depth than the first two. I still think POA set the standard, but I'm also glad not every film was like that. I've said before, that on the strength of Yates' Girl in the Cafe, an amazing piece highly recommended for wonderful performances by Bill Nighy and Mary McDonald and great use of a Sigur Ros tune, that he definitely has something interesting and unique to contribute to the series. The trailer definitely shows a shift in tone, much less whimsy. If the trailer was just that quick exchange between Harry and Snape, I'd be happy. I also love seeing some of the magic in the Muggle settings - I think bringing magic into the 'real world' (which happens even more in the next film) is the way to go, as the fantasy gets more adult. If not adult, then at least less childish.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST


    by leesheri

    was referring to your response to bacci40 Those were meant to be 2 sep. statements. Should have used and in there lol, but didn't think it would fit.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Gotcha. Again too, I'm glad to see someone shares my opinion on Malfoy. Aside from all the clues already pointing to it... this just wouldn't be truly mythic if in the end there were not a true redemption of a character... and he's certainly the most likely candidate. :)

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 2:43 p.m. CST

    harry potter part VIII: harry takes manhattan

    by thegoldencalf


  • Nov. 21, 2006, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Workshed is right HIS DARK MATERIALS

    by Pete Soot

    I've enjoyed all the potter stuff, and it gets stronger all the time BUT i just think HDM is so much stronger. And why the fuck is it taking so long?

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 6:27 p.m. CST


    by Pipple

  • Nov. 22, 2006, 2:28 a.m. CST


    by Sepulchrave

    WOW! Bond gets to go after GOD. How sexy is that!

  • Nov. 22, 2006, 9:06 a.m. CST


    by GTPalmer

    Am I the ONLY person who thinks this entire series of movies and books are complete shit? C'mon people! And if one more person over the age of 12 comes up to me and asks me if I've read the latest potter book Im going to gouge their eyes out and skull fuck them!

  • Nov. 22, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Finally! Yes!

    by blackterror

    As one of the many that finished the Potter series of books (except for the highly anticipated finale of course), I've been waiting what seems like years for this movie to come out. If you haven't read the series you should, it offers a different perspective on the movies and their adaptation.

  • Nov. 22, 2006, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Trailer reeked "Friday the 13th: Harry Takes Manhattan"

    by Kampbell-Kid

    Vanilla Ice I heard has a cameo in this one. o/` Wizarddddddd~rap Go Harry Go Harry Go... o/` Seriously, this doesn't look that bad trailer wise but it is nice to see this film series finally drop its nuts and grow some hair. Wonder how they'll handle the big death scene of a certain character.

  • Nov. 22, 2006, 12:11 p.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    So what kind of books are up your alley, if you don't mind me asking? "Anansi Boys"? Or maybe you like to relax by reading "Ulysses," and then reflect on the meaningful lessons about life it has imparted to you by killing a couple of hours on Ain't-It-Cool-News. Get lost, you pretentious dick.

  • Nov. 22, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I guess I just don't get it then...

    by GTPalmer

    No, you dont have to read "Ulysses" and reflect. My point was that I dont see what the great attraction is to these books/movies to anyone over 12. Thin plots, bad acting, predictable etc. What is it about this franchise? I just dont get it! I will say this though, anything that gets young kids reading 500+ page books is great... for children. Its the adults that come up to me and tell me what a great read potter is that drives me nuts. Fuck them, fuck that trailer, fuck you...and fuck everyone now that I think of it! (gc)

  • Nov. 22, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    There is NOTHING thin...

    by Frijole

    about the plotting of this series.