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Ack! Universal remaking Carpenter's THE THING!?!?!?

Ahhh! Umm.... ahhh.... Ahoy, squirts! Quint here... Okay... I want to start off in full control of my jerking knee... The logical part of my brain says I can't freak out about Universal remaking John Carpenter's brilliant THE THING because Carpenter's film itself was a remake of Howard Hawks' THE THING... There is a certain pedigree behind this remake, but one that I don't trust. Ronald D. Moore is writing... he's producer and writer of the new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, which everybody tells me is brilliant, but I haven't watched a single episode... I see he also wrote some CARNIVALE, which I loved and had his hand in STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT, which is the best of the Next Generation TREKS... But he also had his hand in Mission: Impossible 2... The producers are Marc Abraham and Eric Newman, who were behind the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake. That scares me a bit. As much as I respected the style and hardcore elements of the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake, the movie is a hollow-shell of the original and I don't want to see that happen here. With THE THING, the character work is so important. So, so, so important and that's the stuff that was glossed over in the DAWN remake... David Foster, who produced the original, is onboard as well. Foster's a nice guy. I've talked with him at length about his work with Carpenter, but he also spear-headed the FOG remake that was so awful... So, much like the movie, I don't know who to trust... I don't like this idea, but maybe we'll get a decent film out of it... one encouraging bit is a comment from the producers saying they want this film to be a "companion piece" to Carpenter's film, not a shot by shot remake... But I still am very wary of this. THE THING is one of those movies you don't fuck with, so hopefully these guys know what a fine line they're walking here...


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  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:10 a.m. CST

    I was watching The Thing...

    by Boba Fat

    the other night and I thought "I really wish there was a companion piece to this film" Universal fuckwitts!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:12 a.m. CST

    First? It was a remake anyway

    by Charlie & Tex

    So what's the problem?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Sakrileg

    by rost

    Damn them all to hell!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:14 a.m. CST

    A sequel would be better

    by WONKABAR

    Oh...uh FIRST!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:15 a.m. CST

    They just better not go too heavy on CGI

    by WONKABAR

    Guess I was a little slow on the draw.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:19 a.m. CST

    DUDE

    by Chilli815

    This is so awesome. I really can't knock Moore (MI:2 was a Cruise vanity project after all), and watching BSG confirms he has the paranoia aspect down.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:19 a.m. CST

    Oh for fuck's sake

    by Ray Gamma

    Now this is going too far. This is definitely a case of an unnecessary remake. Carpenters version is perfect, there's nothing, absolutely nothing they can do to improve on it or add to it in any way. This remake is destined to be panned, because they're biting off more than they can chew. Do they really believe that by simply re-doing it with more money and some cgi that it'll automatically be better? There are all sorts of reasons why Carpenter's film will always be a cult phenomenon; Morricone's score for a start. Hollywood will probably get a death metal score together for this one. And it'll have Will Smith in it. You wait and see. Utter shit.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:20 a.m. CST

    I agree

    by Captain RawBeard

    THE THING is one of those movies you don't fuck with butI dont think they will care - they will just remake it and cash in on the name rather than given the film a decent revamp like THE FOG - I hope for their sake its good

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:20 a.m. CST

    UK edition of SFX Magazine reported this

    by McFlyWalker

    a while back, just a little paragraph, but it gave little hope as it was going to be set with teens on an island! Hope this isn't the case & that they stick with tangible special effects!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Well, 'The Thing' was (sort of) a remake itself...

    by Ribbons

    ...so complaining about Hollywood remakes seems a bit ironic in this case. However, I'm skeptical as to how interesting this "companion piece" can be; the 80s version already has the whole paranoid nihilism thing covered. I don't know, I guess we'll see.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Norwegians...

    by reni

    Norwegians, Mac...

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Gotta Agree With Wonkabar

    by Playhouse

    A sequel would be better if they simply had to do anything with the property. But we're going to be saddled with a needless remake that will be built on gore and cheap thrills, just like the majority of the horror schlock that Hollywood is churning out these days.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:32 a.m. CST

    Character work?

    by Primus

    Much as I like Carpenter's film, which is very much about tension and atmosphere and shock, there is precious little character development. It certainly wasn't all about 'the character work' IMO. I look forward to see what they come up with. I love both previous Thing movies, and hopefully they can find a different enough take to make this one worthwhile. The director will be the crucial ingredient: that will determine whether or not we should look forward to it. Give Shyamalan a call, he's probably looking for some work :)

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Also.....

    by Captain RawBeard

    even though John Carpenters THE THING was a remake - the reason it worked so well was it was radically different from the original. All the best remakes try to do something different with the material. Like David Cronenbergs THE FLY and of coursre JC's THE THING. Others that spring to mind are the recent remake of DAWN OF THE DEAD. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would, my only complaint was the all that Zombie Baby bollocks.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:35 a.m. CST

    Give Neil Marshall a call

    by Primus

    He'd be great at something like this.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:37 a.m. CST

    There was 31 years between...

    by Boba Fat

    the original and Carpenter's re-make. A lot had changed in that 31 years and Carpenter updated with respect and intelligence. If you watch Carpenter's version it could have been made yesterday even the FX stand up. That's a mark of quality. So, now 25 years later Carpenter's version is going to get the same treatment? I can't see it. But I can see a B-list cast, lots of GGI and different ending. I love Carpenter's Thing, there is no reason to re-make it. But Universal will throw money at this rather than give Carpenter the money for the sequel I'm sure he has tucked away somewhere. We'll see what we get and maybe I'm being a little over protective but nobody really wants this.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Body Snatchers

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    This reminds me of Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, which was remade (Kaufman), then re-remade (Ferrara), and I believe is currently being re-re-remade with Nicole Kidman. I like all of the versions of Body Snatchers I've seen, so who knows, maybe this The Thing is a story that can withstand new interpretations. With all the current paranoia about terrorists, maybe that's some subtext they can weave into a new version.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:53 a.m. CST

    I could live with it...

    by Lone Fox

    .. if it's a movie about an alien frozen in the ice that thaws and kills people. Great. Just don't say it's a remake, or a companion piece (eh?) or anything to do with the 'two originals' (hehe). Carpenter's version was briliant, and still the only movie I can stand to watch Kurt Russell in. Well, okay, and that Elvis flick. CG gore is rubbish, keep it 80's. ......... Shit, what's the betting they have a strong female character in this new version? Yawn.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Remakes

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I don't understand why people get so upset about remakes. Where did this idea come from that you can't remake a film if it's good? If you have a solid idea at the core and you can do something new and interesting with it, why not? A good remake is like a good cover version, I think - the same basic idea reinterpreted. It's not about improving or adding to the original, just giving a different spin. Gus Van Sant's Psycho, though - that was a god damn waste of time and talent.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:02 a.m. CST

    I recommend...

    by Captain RawBeard

    ...the following directors - Neil Marshall, Alexandre Aja, Guillermo del Toro, or Jean-Pierre Jeunet, can anyone seen a trend here? a non-hollywood director.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:01 a.m. CST

    I was about to go into a fit of rage...

    by Talkbacker with no name

    until i thought ah what the hell. Remakes take nothing away from the original. Either go watch them or don't, simple as that really. Would be nice if people didn't go see them, hollywood would then give up on the idea and move onto something else that makes money.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:03 a.m. CST

    The reason it upsets

    by Uridium

    The reason people get upset is that the only thought that seems to get put into these remakes is... 'Oh that film is popular and made money, lets remake it and we can make a shedload of cash from the origional fans'. I have been reading posts here for over a year, and consider myself a film geek, but this news has actually made me creat an account and post... This film does not need a remake damnit... kinda getting sick of this remake crap! (yes i know its already a remake) but I can have a moan cant it? hmm, I have to go watch it again now... been a while..

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:03 a.m. CST

    They should call it WHAT IS IT? and get Crispen Glover

    by brokentusk

    to direct it. That would be some scary shit. On a serious note, is it just me, or is Carpenter's version still fuck ass scary? What is the motivation behind this remake? Why don't they just re-release Carpenter's film in theatres? Either that or get Carpenter to make a sequel.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:06 a.m. CST

    The Thing is...

    by nemesisdarkside

    ...my favourite Carpenter film and I don't know how to feel about this.<P>Not a fan of unneeded remakes, reimagines or "companion pieces" but if the right crew and cast assemble it could be good. Not all remakes are bad! However a lot of them are pointless! Same goes for sequels.<BR>Also with BSG, RDM has proved to me that he can write an intelligent and compelling script. Let's just hope this one is.<P>Also, how about using some underrated actors, instead of "stars". Also, the FX should be done as practical as possible, coz IMHO CGI ain't scary. (I'm not anti-CGI at all, but I don't find it's use in horror scary at all).

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:17 a.m. CST

    IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!!!

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    I know, I know. Couldn't resist ^_^

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:15 a.m. CST

    Franklin?

    by Boba Fat

    Who needs the Guns & Roses version of Sympathy For The Devil of McFly's Pinball Wizard? Most remakes are the cinematic equivalent. Cheap worthless, cash ins and the list is pretty long.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:19 a.m. CST

    Great idea for the remake

    by ELGordo

    They have it take place in Iraq where a group of soldiers and some POW's are stationed at some outpost. Then they can play of the paranoia within the group of soldiers and the POW's and be patriotic as well. That goes great with the kids today. But seriously, they could do a sequel and even have Russel and Kieth in it since they don't seem to age at all, Kurt was covered in facial hair as well so... Why don't they just make the story about how the bodies of Russel and David are recovered and one of the bodies is infected with the alien and go from there. SAKRILEG!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:20 a.m. CST

    The Film already has a Sequel

    by Captain RawBeard

    and a sort of companion piece in the form of a Playstation 2 Computer Game. It followed on from the ending of the film and was actually quite good. You had to gain the trust of people you rescued and could even perform tests on them to see if they were the thing or not. I would rather see a remake of the game for the Xbox 360 than see a remake of the film.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Don't mess with a good thing

    by Lago

    There's nowhere to go but down by remaking this flick. Simply one of the best sci-fi horror films ever. They would do better by just rereleasing it now. Are there no good ideas left in Hollywood???

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Lago?

    by Boba Fat

    Was that joke in your subject line intended? because it's a good one.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Boba

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    That's the risk, sure, but then you also get Hendrix's All Along The Watchtower, Buckley's Hallelujah, or Cash's Hurt. These things can go both ways, you just have to hope these film makers intentions are good, I suppose. I'm not too familiar with this Battlestar Galactica, but people seem to like it, so I guess that's a good remake. Maybe he's one of the good guys.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:35 a.m. CST

    El Gordo

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I like this idea you've had very much. It isolates the characters but makes it something different from ice and snow, plus it taps into some of that good terrorism paranoia. As long it wasn't too heavy-handed, I would like to see this film.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:36 a.m. CST

    Franklin?

    by Boba Fat

    I take your point but they seem to be the exceptions in long shitty list. Most remakes / cover versions exist for cynical reasons by less talented individuals trying to cash in on an establised brand. We will see what happens but I'm pessimistic. P.S I prefer John Cale's Hallelujah anyway :)

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:37 a.m. CST

    No.

    by Nordling

    That's it. Simply no. Carpenter's film is a perfect sci-fi thriller as it is.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Isn't this OLD news?

    by BanAllFIRSTPosters

    I know I read about Strike's/Universal's deal about this MONTHS ago.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Whaaaa?

    by radio1_mike

    Even though I like brokentusk's idea calling it 'What is it' and using Crispin Glover, this movie will be utter trash. People say oh JC's movie is a remake of the 50's version. It really is not. The Carpenter version is more faithful to the original short story. The Thing (1982) is quite simply a perfect movie. What could a remake offer? What paradigm shift would be explored, Both the 50's version of this and Body Snatchers are allegories for the Red Scare. The 70's version of BS is this whole wonderful 70's me-decade zeitgeist self-help mania. The Thing 80's is about (at least I think) about the hangover from 70's... What can a new version of The Thing offer? 9/11 imagery? A multinational Artic base exploring global warming? Having a Sayid-like character be the red-herring, all the while The Thing is Tobey MacGuire? Or many 'things' spawn and you end with Aliens (1986) all over again...I dunno, this could be direct to video... God help us if: Christian Slater, Tara Reid, Chris Klein, Stephen Dorff or Craig Sheffer is involved.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Would rather see a sequel....

    by NachoNegro

    But woudl rather they didn't bother if they couldn't get David and Russell. Lets face it, this remake is going to be pants and well know it. And yes, there certainly will be a strong female character in there. Yawn indeed.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:44 a.m. CST

    F MAThere goes our MOUNTAINS ODNESS film...

    by godoffireinhell

    The sound you're hearing is Guillermo del Toro biting the fucking walls. With a THING remake coming up there's no way someone is also going to bankroll and adaptation of the Lovecraft novella that inspired a good deal of it. Suck.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Boba

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Well, I'm in an optimistic mood today - it must be a Friday thing. Good call on the Cale, by the way, but I'm sticking with Jeff.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:50 a.m. CST

    There goes our MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS film...

    by godoffireinhell

    The sound you're hearing is Guillermo del Toro biting the fucking walls. With a THING remake coming up there's no way someone is also going to bankroll and adaptation of the Lovecraft novella that inspired a good deal of it. Suck.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Cult Classic

    by Salamander

    Carpenters remake is a cult classic, my fav horror film of all time. The kept asking him to do a sequel whihc i wish he did instead of escape from LA but if any remakes/sequels leave it to da man. dont let them fuck this up. fog remake was utter trash althoguh i liked the dawn remake apart from running zombies and would love to see what happens next but a remake of this with some bad cgi instaead of models ... leave it alone.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Well, why not?

    by DerLanghaarige

    But like in case of THE FLY or THE BLOB I don't think that you can bring after the great splatter-remake any new elements into the story.<br> The Carpenter-version was on German TV last Sunday. For the surprise of every viewer even totally uncut! At 10 p.m.! Still one of the scariest and most disturbing films I have ever seen!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:55 a.m. CST

    There is nothing...

    by cornponious

    NOTHING, I say, that can touch Rob Bottin's makeup effects in this film. I don't care what kind of CGI they use. Bottin's live action effects in this film are still as breathtaking and horrific today as they were 25+ years ago. I mean, the head that pulls itself off the body and sprouts legs, then walks away... pure mastery.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:59 a.m. CST

    Why Why Why?!?!

    by otisberg_77

    Why can't they just leave a classic movie be? Why not remake the Godfather why were at it? Or An American Werewolf in London?Why not remake Star Wars but use shoddy CGI and bad actors and...oh wait a minute, they kind of did already. This is bad, I love The Thing, it is a classic movie that hasnt dated, for fuck sake, if it aint broke, DONT FIX IT! I know the Thing was kind of a remake anyway, but not totally, in "the thing from another world" the alien was a carrot guy, which kind of sucked, but nothing about the Carpenter movie sucked, nothing. State of the art effects (that look better than any CG, ok apart from the stop motion dino bird at the end)Amazing actor chemistry, superb score and shit-pant scares, leave leave leave!!! This was a time capsule of Carpenter at the top of his game, before he fell off the mountain of genius. Please let him stay, dont tarnish this movie for future generations. I heard this was going to be a prequel, anything but a remake would be fine. I'd even accept a shitty sequel!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:04 a.m. CST

    What about the Darabont live tv version?

    by Uncapie

    "Who Goes There?" has been done twice. Three times if you count the Bob Burns Halloween Show he had in 2003. That was amazing. What's next another "Invasion Of the Body Snatchers" movie? Oh, there is one. Enough with the remakes and create something new!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Hey Universal! The village called...

    by Dr.Zeus

    ....they want their idiot back!!! You know Universal, I work with this guy. A real pain in the ass type of dipshit. And I see this guy come into work, day in and day out. And he actually believes that this little tucked away part of hell couldn't get along without his "wisdom and guidance." And that his lone "self sacrafice" is the only reason this company hasn't gone under. And you know what?......He likes remakes! So I think he's just the idiot you've been missing...come and get him he belongs to you! I'm sure if you told him your brilliant plan about how it's "cheaper to take risks on proven material. Rather than lead the way, like in the brilliant eras of the past." That he would follow you anywhere! .....ummm straight back to this private lil hell of creative bankruptcy! You can have my chair. :[

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:11 a.m. CST

    When is a remake ever valid? : discuss...

    by otisberg_77

    I can only think of one, Funky Monkey is crying out for a remake.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:11 a.m. CST

    The thing is...

    by Ray Gamma

    Do it by all means if you're going to let Carpenter do it. But they won't. The problem is that these big studios are currently overrun with yuppie creatives who don't give a fuck about classic cult movies. Mark my words, this will have a teen cast, lots of cgi, a death-metal score and some goofy lead actor like Will Smith, who will punch the alien xenomorph at some point in the film and follow the punch with the line "welcome to earth". What a fucking tragedy Hollywood has become, but you know it's because the people making these films are so young that they don't even remember what it was like when films had some gravity to them.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:13 a.m. CST

    Wow

    by Evil Chicken

    “John Carpenter’s The Thing” is one of the few remakes/re-imaginings EVER to be better than the original. Ever. It also happens to be one of the top 10 films that I would want to be stuck with on a deserted island with. It is also one of the best films that Mr. John Carpenter put to film. Moore is an amazing writer but this is scary. Interestingly enough, Moore has overcome hardcore original material snobs like me before (see “Battlestar Galactica”). I will see this one in the theater opening day – that’s something that I’ve never said about almost any other remake. Here’s hoping that MacReady still has a sombrero.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:19 a.m. CST

    BUT

    by Ray Gamma

    Macready will be replaced with a 19-year-old moody Slipknot fan, and the whole movie will be set in a college dorm.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:21 a.m. CST

    WES CRAVEN

    by Ray Gamma

    Wes Craven has a lot to answer for, he's single-handedly brainwashed an entire generation into thinking that horror films have to be ironic slapstick Scooby-Doo re-inventions with a cast entirely made up of annoying teens who you, the audience, actually WANT to die.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:24 a.m. CST

    When was the last time...

    by Ray Gamma

    When was the last time someone made a truly dark, bleak, serious, grim, epic paranoia movie? Was it The Andromeda Strain? Invasion of The Body Snatchers? Oh wait, hold on, it was Carpenter's "The Thing"... Name me a film in recent years, other than Romero's Day of the Dead, that achieved this huge-scale horror?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:26 a.m. CST

    A remake of a remake...

    by beefywhore

    Thats rad.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:27 a.m. CST

    That's what Hollywood has become

    by Ray Gamma

    A remake of a remake. Like a carbon copy of a photocopy of a magazine print of a scan of sketch of a photocopy of another photocopy. What mainstream cinema actually needs is a new Heironymus Bosch painting, not another fucking Xerox.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Mr Carpenter

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    As much as I respect this John Carpenter and very much enjoy his seventies and eighties output, I say don't let him anywhere near this remake. He's done his version, and very good it was too, but let someone else have a turn. David Fincher, I think, could do something interesting with this idea. I believe he's available now.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:36 a.m. CST

    In all honesty, who gives a fuck...

    by bongo123

    lets face it, the Thing is without a doupt one of the finest horror films of all time and a remake is not gonna change that, it will always hold number one spot for me (fuck do i love that score), so Hollywood is making a remake big fucking deal, why people care is beyond me, hollywood is a buisness thats all, they're out to make money can you blame em? and some of these remakes actually turn out pretty fucking cool, take the dawn remake (all you romero fanboys can fuck off, l loved the original as well but the man cant make shit in the 21st century, hes nothing but a straight to video waste of space after the abomination that was land) the Dawn remake was an absolute blast had me glued from the opening right till the curtain closed, granted remakes usually turn out shite (fog!!?? wtf happened there) but then again, we could end up with a pretty cool alien on the rampage movie set in antartica and i for one am willing to risk hollywoods money on that.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:38 a.m. CST

    I can answer that Ray Gamma.

    by Uncapie

    "Blair Witch Project" $150 million take on it. I like Chris Rock's analogy of the film best. "This film was made for $6,000? Somebody is walking around with $5,000 in his pocket!" Sad part is, none of those film makers got any of the back end.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Are they going to remake all of Carpenter's films?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Assault on Precint 13, The Fog and now this? Proves one thing, Carpenter is a bone fide cinema legend. Give us another one John! You know you have it in you!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Oh, you fuckers...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...you just couldn't resist it, could you? You just had to fuck this one up too, didn't you? Christ, you money-sucking, creatively bankrupt mandrill-ass-eaters should just... all..... AAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!! CAN YOU FEEL THE HATE, UNIVERSAL?!?! FUCK YOU TO DEATH!!!!! AAAGGHHHHH!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:12 a.m. CST

    What’s the big deal?

    by Buffalo500

    The Fog is one of Carpenters best, they remade that and apparently it was awful. I have not seen it and feel no real urge to see it, but that does not hamper my love of the original. Let Hollywood remake as many films as they want, after all it’s their money, and if you don’t like the idea of the remake, then don’t go to see it. Besides if the remake is a great film then you have another “Thing” to love.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Why..?

    by SD Canis

    Why don't film makers remake films that they stand a decent chance of improving on. Why do another remake of "The thing" when you could be remaking the likes of "The day the earth stood still"

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:16 a.m. CST

    I dunno, but it's big and pissed off....

    by loafroaster

    Leave it the fuck alone. Call in Neil Marshall to adapt the Dark Horse comic series, or do his own sequel. The Thing cannot be topped; the effects, story and characters remain flawless to this day.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:19 a.m. CST

    I understand that nobody saw The Fog remake

    by Monkey Butler

    and thus aren't talking about it, but damnit, I DID see it, and I want (some might say need) to talk about it. That is the worst goddamn piece of shit movie I've ever seen in my entire fucking life. Just absolutely fucking terrible. And THAT is the exact level that they're going to pitch this remake at. They're going to ignore people asking for a sequel (because "not enough people remember the original") and just completely fucking butcher it. Maybe they can work in somebody nearly being drowned by deadly, deadly seaweed again. Fuck that was a terrible movie.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:19 a.m. CST

    remake the Black Dahlia!

    by Spandau Belly

    The 2006 original was so bad and I doubt anybody remembers it. This would be a great chance for a fresh young cast to readapt a classic novel.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Why dont they made The Person? Or The Place?

    by triplefive

    nouns can be all sorts of stuff. They don't all have to be Things.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:28 a.m. CST

    The Fog remake was terrible beyond words...

    by BigTuna

    Yes, I did actually see it. WOW! There a scene with Maggie Grace falling in the water, and "Accidently" finding a 100 year old clue that is more funny then anything. And the fog can now lift stuff? C'Mon.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Yeah, fuck you too...

    by loafroaster

    In response to posters saying it's okay for Hollywood churning out remakes; personally it pisses me off for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it taints the original, so in the future when I re-watch The Thing, I'll think about the inevitably crap remake and get angry. Secondly, it hinders the funding/success of original, low-budget films struggling to make a mark. And Thirdly, it's just plain lazy. Rather than taking a great movie and trying to expand it, Hollywood takes the easy route and churns out a teen-friendly version, complete with either A) Ryan Reynolds, B) A 'rawk' soundtrack, C) Shitloads of product placement, or D)All of the above. I mean, how cool would a sequel to the Thing be, directed by someone who knows their shit, complete with non-CGI effects and a great cast? But it ain't gonna happen...

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:33 a.m. CST

    shoot the fuckers

    by davidlyons

    and they won't be remaking anything. plus it sends a clear messsage out to hollywood. don't fuck with our babies

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:34 a.m. CST

    first contact was shite

    by davidlyons

    makes final frontier look like citizen kane

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:35 a.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by Boba Fat

    A Paris Hilton film like that is already available. In it she attempts to suffocate a big, ugly space snake with her mouth but this makes it double in size so she kills it with her vagina.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:37 a.m. CST

    fuck it

    by Buzzsawlenny

    if they absolutely have to do it then i liked el gordo's idea of the iraq prison. the thing is in my top ten films of ANY genre..L8r

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    best next gen star trek film ever

    by davidlyons

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIIfy8daoDQ

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    They should remake "The Last Remake of Beau Geste"

    by rev_skarekroe

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:43 a.m. CST

    I don't want a remake

    by stvnhthr

    But I think from what I've heard it is going to be a new story with new characters in a new environment. It is not going to reference the original, but it is not going to recover the same ground either. I think they were calling it LOST meets the THING, so it will be an island or something with a bunch of pretty actors not trusting each other, which could be pretty good.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Oi HELO!

    by Captain RawBeard

    I already mentioned the game - It was really good and a great follow on from the film - if anything they should turn that game into a film but knowing hollywood they will give it to that hack Paul Anderson who managed to fuck up both Resident Evil and Aliens Vs Predator. <br> <br> I didnt see the remake of THE FOG and cant bring myself to see it. <br> <br> Another great film by John Carpenter that has yet to be raped by hollywood execs is Big Trouble in Litte China. That film was great and one of my all time fave films along with The Thing.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Sequel?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    It frightens me that people are cussing a proposed remake while also asking for a sequel. Bad sequels are much more damaging than remakes. A remake is like a 'what if?', like they don't even exist in the same universe, but sequels can and will take characters you care about and kill them, clone them, or (most common) turn them into horrible caricatures of themselves. I like that Carpenter's story was concluded with a nice touch of ambiguity, and that would be ruined by a sequel.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:13 a.m. CST

    So When Are They Going to Re-Make

    by Snookeroo

    the old John Ashley movies? You know -- those old, gorey, violent flicks from the late sixties, early 70's? Beast of the Yellow Night, Beast of Blood, the Twilight People, etc. If you want really crappy movies that could seriously do with an update, there's plenty of material in that wing of the Dusty Movies Archieve®.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    You "fuck remake" guys are funny

    by half vader

    Ever heard of a guy named Shakespeare? Fuck everyone who ever turned out a new version of his stuff. I mean, Lawrence Olivier? What was he thinking? Kurosawa? How dare he! Obviously I'm playing devil's advocate here, but I'd be a lot happier agreeing with you guys if you actually thought it through first (yes, I know a few did, but...). And acting like Quint didn't already address this before you. Oh wait, you probably missed that because you were to busy venting. Or trying to post first.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:19 a.m. CST

    I want another remake of Planet of the Apes!

    by half vader

    Or at least change the ending so that this time he goes back in time and erases all memory of the preceeding two hours (except for a vague recolection of how awesome the Rick Baker makeup was)!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:18 a.m. CST

    It's a "reimagining"

    by Rupee88

    Yeah, it'd be tough to top what has been done before with this material, but it will be fun to see what they come up with. It's better than another teen comedy bullshit movie being produced.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Where the fuck were all of you when this 'perfect'movie

    by half vader

    came out? Huh? You sure weren't over watching Blade Runner either, were you? Huh? Huh? I know, you were all either in nappies, or watching E.T., or both. I just think it's funny how you're all outraged about the cinematic release of a remake when you only saw this one on video anyway. If this hadn't bombed originally I think it'd have a fighting chance but as it was a box-office disaster (notice I don't equate B.O. success with actual worth like so many bozos here) AND a great film I reckon that pretty much ensures the remake excuse. But unlike Star Wars we won't lose this version. I disagree with the myopic view that a newer inferior version negates or sullies the 'classic'. If anything it offers you an apple-to-apples comparison that puts into focus and makes you appreciate the classic that much more. _______P.S. Zombie, read the other posts. About the comic too.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:39 a.m. CST

    What was the cheesy movie where Rob Bottin actually did

    by half vader

    do CG gorey monster effects? Can't remember. I'm sure he's learned his lesson from that one now.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Craig Scheffer is awesome.

    by Captain Mal

    "Hardy Jenns--with *two* n's."

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST

    half vader

    by Captain Mal

    What sort of logic is that? I wasn't even alive when "The Bicycle Thief" or "8 1/2" came out, but I'd still be outraged if some idjit decided to remake those films. (dammit, i hope i didn't just an idea in some producer's head) A great film is a great film, regardless of who saw it when. (And by the way, I'm refuting your logic, not your specific argument--I've never seen "The Thing.")

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Vader - Don't go out on a limb

    by MrD

    Unless it can support your weight. I saw it in the theaters with my Dad at the age of 12. It remains, relatively speaking, the most fucked up scary theater experience I've ever had. I'm not thrilled with the idea of a remake here, but I'm not against it either. If it works, it'll bring some attention back to the original remake (how's that for an oxymoron?). If it sucks, it'll just make Carpenter's look that much better. I'm with Marmoset. Like Body Snatchers, this is a very simple idea that can be done and redone with each generation. Now, BS was done very well twice, adequately a third time, and the fourth seems to be in trouble. But that doesn't mean the Thing will follow suit. The main thing (pardon the pun) will be to make this as radically different from Carpenter's as Carpenter's was from the original. Hell, the can mimic BS even more by making this an unofficial sequel. One last thought - Carpenter's Thing has been remade at least once as an XFiles episode, and lord knows any number of genre films, tv shows and video games have lifted elements from it. I think it's very cool that this highly criticized box office disappointment has ended up being one of the most influential films to come out of the 80s.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:54 a.m. CST

    "You've gotta be FUCKING kidding!"

    by Osmosis Jones

    Eh, Carpenter's film was a remake itself, so this dosn't bother me. If it sucks, too bad. If it's cool, then...cool.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:57 a.m. CST

    In the same article: I, Robot 2 is in development

    by Primus

    Which to me is better news - really enjoyed the original. Variety's article states: "Moore, who's repped by CAA, just scripted an "I, Robot" sequel for Fox."

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Fuck you too, half vader.

    by DocPazuzu

    I was 15 when Carpenter's The Thing came out and I saw it in a theater. The fact that you make the supposed lack of talkbackers' cinematic memory an issue, that you support this project, use the word "reimagining" in a positive way, and compare "reimagining" to Shakespeare and Kurosawa means that you're either a plant or a tool. Or both.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Technically speaking...

    by DocPazuzu

    The Thing isn't a remake. It's based more on the original novella than the Hawks/Nyby classic. Would the new Casino Royale be considered a remake of the David Niven movie?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Nobody who comes...

    by Boba Fat

    to this site wants to see a bad remake of a great film. In fact nobody who comes to this site wants to see a bad film. But if you hold out hope, against all the odds, for a great remake of a great film you are one of two things. A : Blessed with a pure optimism that needs to protected and admired. B : A raving fucking lunatic. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, just weighing up the odds.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Hey Swedes!

    by Abin Sur

    Ed Asner should play the Wilford Brimley role...

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:14 a.m. CST

    MI:2 wasnt so bad!

    by godzillasushi

    I liked it.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:14 a.m. CST

    How Hard would it be to make an actual sequel to this?

    by Neo Con Snake Plissken

    Dark horse comic is incredible, and I hear the video game sequel is amazing. Jesus fucking christ on a popsicle stick - can't you Hollywood fuck bags come up with an original idea anymore? I FUCKING HATE ALL YOU PANSY ASS HOLLYWOOD MAGGOTS! NO RE-MAKES OF RE-MAKES ANYMORE. I'm all for capitalism, but this is just fucking WEAK!!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Technically, you're right, but Carpenter was inspired to go back to the original story because he loved the Hawks film so much. In fact, I think the original version even has a cameo in Halloween. That's why the film is called John Carpenter's The Thing and not Who Goes There. I can't be 100% sure, but I don't think this new Casino Royale was inspired by the film makers' love of the David Niven film.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:24 a.m. CST

    As much as I abhor this idea ...

    by TheAFLACDuck

    GuyLombardo's only intellegent "suggestion" of it being an all female cast would be interesting. Because at least then you'd have some eye candy in this remake that is ... the WORST IDEA EVER!!! Lacey Chabert for MacCready's role, Gabrielle Union as Childs, Marg Helgenberger as Blair, Jessica Biel as Windows, Halle Berry as Nauls, Scarlett Johansson as Clark, Lauren Graham as Palmer, Nicolette Sheridan as Copper, Erica Durance as Norris, Monica Bellucci in Garry's role, Mia Kirshner as Bennings, & Anne Hathaway as Fuchs. Sort of like The Decent ... but with The Thing.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:52 a.m. CST

    The one thing I hate about Carpenter's THING

    by godoffireinhell

    is that shot at the beginning with the STAR WARS-esque spaceship. I think the producers forced him to put that one in. Maybe they can do better tentacle monsters nowadays but I doubt they'll be as cool as the practical FX were.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Maybe they'll do a sequel after the remake

    by godoffireinhell

    becomes a success. Would make more sense to the suits than making a direct sequel to an "ancient" film like this.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Remake "The Devil's Rain"

    by Mr Incredible

    And have William Shatner, John Travolta, Tom Skerritt and Ernest Borgnine reprise their roles. Makes about as much sense as this stupid shit.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Haha, I told you so!

    by JackPumpkinhead

    The Exorcist will be next. Done by Eli Roth or that French moron that keeps plagiarizing Dean Koontz and Stephen King.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST

    They should call it THAT THING YOU DO and get Tom Hanks

    by brokentusk

    to direct. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Stop this madness !!!!!!

    by giger167

    Remake John Carpenters The Thing ?????? Why not daube the Mona Lisa with crayons and call it art. Big mistake. The previous post also scared me somewhat in that you have now subliminally given the idea to Eli Roth to remake the Exorcist you fool. I take it this means Hollywood has finished remaking every asian horror ever and is now trawling through the 70's and 80's for remake material. I really want to be mature here but remaking 'the best horror movie ever' is not really a very good move lol. I have an idea, buy some original scripts, check out the section in the book store marked 'horror' lots of good stuff in there.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:16 a.m. CST

    seriously

    by Godardwhowhatnow

    The thing was a fun horror romp, but it's not hallowed cinema and above being cheaply remade for a buck. CHILL, FOLKS.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Rob Bottin was the star of Carpenter Thing

    by rgatz

    The man was robbed at the Oscars.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:21 a.m. CST

    'They' better nail it 100% than sully another classic

    by KillaKane

    I can't really see the point tbh (ecept the obvious shill for a new generation), I enjoyed the DOTD remake; here's hoping they capture the best elements of Carpenter's (Atmosphere, characterisation and fucked up nightmare fuel). The tacit CGI update should integrate some 'physical' FX Make-up in the mix - Dream scenario: WETA could cut their chops for HALO on this one ;-) They'll need a score as broodingly good as Morricone's. So much to top, that's a pretty high bar they've got to vault over.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Old News

    by Boromir187

    No offense guys, but this was announced over a month ago. Also, when the announcement was made, they stated that it would be a prequel to Carpenter's film and not a remake of it.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST

    'a fun horror romp' lol

    by giger167

    A film set on ice station, with no women, very little humor, and one of the most downbeat endings in cinema history. Add to that John Carpenter at his career best, Rob Bottin with some of the best practical make-up effects in cinema history, a lean, mean script, Dean Cundey photography that is simply beautiful, and a cast of some of cinemas best character actors. I'd really like to argue it's rather more than a 'fun little horror romp'

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Good pedigree. Moore and Dawn remake producers

    by Teamwak

    I LOVE the original, but this wont change that. I trust (on the whole) the people doing this. I shall remain calm until the trailer hits.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:31 a.m. CST

    STFU Half Vader

    by Uridium

    -------------------------- I just think it's funny how you're all outraged about the cinematic release of a remake when you only saw this one on video anyway. -------------------------- What sort of BS statement was that... who cares how old we were when it came out in the cinema??? How old were you when Seven Samurai canme out (1954), or were your parents even born when Metropolis (1927) was made... Sheesh, asshole!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:45 a.m. CST

    New Battlestar Galactica is today´s the best Tv show

    by CuervoJones

    And Carpenter´s the Thing is the best horror movie ever. So i don´t know what to expect about this...

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST

    ATTENTION HOLLYWOOD....

    by Spherehead

    Enough with the freakin' remakes already! Come up with some NEW ideas for movies for crying out loud!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Why Why Why?

    by DoctorWho?

    And what exactly is a "companion piece"? Fucking morons.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    C'mon, get Kurt Russell and do a sequel!

    by DoctorWho?

    He'd do it.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:25 a.m. CST

    John Carpenter's The Thing

    by blackwood

    One of the most adept, tight, unsettling films I've ever seen. Saw it again last week and it's still effective. I wish John was still making films. Hey Moriarty - work it out with him. Write something lean and clever and crazy and bring him back to us.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:33 a.m. CST

    The Film already has a Sequel

    by wykedengel

    I would have to agree with Captain RawBeard; The Thing came out on both PC and Playstation and took place after the movie. The game itself made sense and it was equally fun to watch as it was to play. I only have one problem with remakes...it shows that the motion picture industry is suffering from a lack of originality. The execs, who are more about padding their stock portfolios than producing new visions in film, want to go with what they think will gross $$$ and that they can merchandise the hell out of. I notice that you don't see that much in books, why? Because it is essentially telling the same story over and over. While I would like to see Clive Barker have a go at one of Stephen King's novels, well...it just doesn't happen. Back to the original idea of the TB, will I go see this movie, yeah (and you will, too.) If for anything, you all with either a) want to see how it played out or b) have something to bitch about on the TB. Whatever your reason, the fact remains that the industry will get what they came for and that is your hard-earned (or ill-gotten)cash.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Because it's the right thing to do...

    by Nodwick

    This remake NEEDS Wilfred Brimley. And crawling blood. That was cool.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Harry and Quint wont give BSG a chance?

    by Billyeveryteen

    What the fuck! Oh, JC's Thing is perfect, no chicks needed.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:47 a.m. CST

    You have got be fucking kidding

    by Atomic.Lobster

    ...great line and it must stay. But why not make a loosely connected sequel with the 1982 events as backstory, just as the Norwegians were backstory in the Carpenter film. Now I realise you genetlemen have been through a lot, but I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter tied to this fucking couch.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST

    A Sequal what be a fucking better idea....

    by Hail

    ...also, Robert Bottin's make-up effects and THE BEST EVER FOR A HORROR FILM (and arguably any movie). They still hold up 25 years later and are anything but cheesy (which so much shit is NOW!). Charater work is the most important element, but lets face it....they cannot do a remake of Carpenter's THING because the bar is so high they'll never get close.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST

    I remaked a remake...

    by El Scorcho

    it was back to normal.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 12:01 p.m. CST

    quint, you really ought to watch BSG

    by occula

    however, BSG's excellence aside, i, too, think a remake or sequel or whatever the funk they're going to spin it as is lame. think the dog will be CG? GAHHHH!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST

    I read the Campbell short-story...

    by Cellar Door

    ...and Carpenter's "The Thing" is far more exacting to the original story "Who Goes There?" (great title or what?!) than the previous B&W versions. It basically *is* the story adapted to film while the old B&W versions are *inspired by* Campbell's story. Without doubt my favorite horror movie of all time (and one of Carpenter's best). I think a remake has to be a bad idea in any stretch and on all levels. A sequel is a bad idea...a prequel is a bad idea. Yoda as a sonic-hedgehog ninja bad idea...nipples on batsuit..flames on Prime..you get the idea here. Look at Terminator...loved that movie and waited and wanted a sequel forever..we got T2 which was a great kickass movie (before sequels started the suck)...then they started torturing Mr. Ed with Term 3 and now I hear Arnie's comin back for T4...wtf?!?!?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 12:17 p.m. CST

    even the movie "The Fog" didn't have this much fog

    by durhay

    nm

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Quint, watch BSG.

    by MattCG

    It kicks the ass of every other so-called 'genre' show of the past twenty years.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Dear Hollywood Excec...BAD BAD BAD! NO!

    by solartaco3

    When will this stop!?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    They CANNOT top the defibrillator scene!

    by Tacom

    That scene in Carpenter's remake where Richard Dysart is using the defib paddles is one of the best shocks I've ever had watching a movie! It would totally SUCK in CG!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 12:57 p.m. CST

    We're remaking remakes now?

    by enrique_o_k2000

    Does Hollywood not realize how ridiculous this is getting?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:10 p.m. CST

    It can't work today.

    by necco

    The claustrophobic vibe is a large part of what makes JC's version of the story so effective, if they can get that, they're halfway there. The effects however, there's something otherworldy and utterly alien about the creature effects in JC's version. I honestly don't think CG can do it. Although if they use WETA and do it like the tubeworms in King Kong, maybe, just maybe. As an aside, if you've got the Carpenter version on DVD, check out the commentary track with JC and Kurt Russel, it's a stitch, and I don't usually like commentary tracks.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST

    IT MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!!!

    by workshed

    What are they thinking..? Just re-release Carpenter's version on the cinema and i guarantee it will find a whole new audience. After Casino Royale CGI is sooooo OUT!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    WHO GOES THERE?

    by Norm3

    Why can't they just remake the original novelette by John W. Campbell, Jr. like the other two movies. Rather than use JCs version!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:29 p.m. CST

    I was about to dog this idea...

    by cerebulon

    But with those guys producing and directing it may have a shot. I loved the Dawn of the Dead remake and I love BSG. If they think they can do better than Carpenter - let's see them try. Still, I would love to see a really good sequel to Carpenter's than another remake. I guess they need to have something Antarctic to go up against DelToro's Mountains of Madness.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Another camp.

    by Det. John Kimble

    How about this: Film opens on THE FROZEN CORPSES OF KURT RUSSELL AND KEITH DAVID. Camera tracks across the smoldering wreckage of the US camp. We see Blackened beams, the remnants of the helicopter and SnoCat. Moving past MacCready's shack, the camera enters what's left of the Quonset hut that was the lounge now open to the sky. The frame of an old leather couch is one of the few recognizable items remaining. Camera continues down what used to be a hallway past the still-burning radio room, the dog kennels and out through a hole in the corrugated steel there and onto the pure white snow... to a SET OF DOG TRACKS LEADING AWAY FROM THE US CAMP. Camera cranes up, up and up, high into the sky and tilts up toward the horizon...

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:32 p.m. CST

    the issue with remakes......

    by mrbong

    ...is that there are just too damn many of them in relation to how many original films are coming out these days, in particular with emphasis on the horror genre. i think we all wish there were more people out there like Neil Marshall, who is taking horror/suspense/thriller films to a whole new level, rather than these punkass kids who just watch something on cable and say "cool, i will remake that".

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Remakes....

    by Kevin

    All the bitching in the world isn't going to stop this project from happening. Sad as this news is, be grateful that it has some talent behind it. Granted, I would much rather see a theatrical sequel than a remake. I agree that some remakes can enhance the original in regards to acheiving things they couldn't do before due to technology or budgetary issues. I didn't hear any bitching when Darabont was going to remake it so why bitch now? It'll happen, you'll watch it, and they'll keeping remaking things until they start remaking the remakes. Oh wait, it's already happened...King Kong.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    I'm a remake of my father!

    by Spandau Belly

    My drunken narcicism features a slick Michael Bay feel and hip modern soundtrack to make me more marketable to the kids these days. My dad was a big cult hit in the 70s and I'm sure I'll spawn at least two sequels. My father will be released in special edition form to help promote me.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 2:02 p.m. CST

    FUCK NO!! NO NO NO ! NO ! NO ! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

    by wolvenom

    This is terrible fucking news. There's no way they can make carpenter's better or even pay respect to it in the least. A CGI THING? FUCK NO!!!PLEASE GOD NO!! NO FUCKING CGI THING!! the best part about the gory stuff in carpenters was all the work they put into the classic special effects and puppetry. I dont want to see another fog! please god no!!! NO CGI THING!! And they'll make it less gory and shit so they can pull in the younger aduiences too i'll bet. This is bullshit!! CHARACTER CHARACTER CHARACTER WORK!!! WITHOUT KURT RUSSEL THIS WILL BOMB!!! I DONT WANT TO SEE A MOVIE FULL OF 18 PRETTY FACED YEAR OLD ACTORS PRETENDING THEY'RE FUCKING DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS?!?!?! GOD NO!!! FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD! FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Mr Incredible - "The Devil's Rain"

    by Sir Loin

    LOL. I caught that movie late one night on cable and was astounded at the well-known actors in that, complete with Borgnine turning into a goat. Classic!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Re: Wes Craven

    by josh0rama

    "Wes Craven has a lot to answer for, he's single-handedly brainwashed an entire generation into thinking that horror films have to be ironic slapstick Scooby-Doo re-inventions with a cast entirely made up of annoying teens who you, the audience, actually WANT to die." I personally don't think that Wes Craven is to blame for this formula. The kids in A Nightmare on Elm Street are far from brainless. Nancy is a very intelligent 15 year old who had the mental capacity to come to terms with what she was expriencing and the balls to find a way to stop it. She out thought Freddy Kruegger and was able to goe toe toe wtih him when her adult counterparts could only shudder at the thought. In Dream warriors she used what she had learned to teach a group of kids to take it a step further and learn to work together in Freddy's universe. Compare these characters with all of the kids in the friday the 13th series. That's the franchise to blame for current cliches. Without a doubt. Think about it bithces!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Director: Uwe Boll

    by Clem Cadiddlehopper

    Oh, the horror. Did they learn nothing from An American Werewolf in Paris? The Fog? The Amityville Horror??? Stop doing this! Please!!! Instead of doing bad remakes of great movies, make great remakes of bad movies. Make a kick ass Xtro or Phantoms.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    FUCK YOU, UNIVERSAL

    by la_sith

    Why not remake Jaws, too? Seriously, this is not a good way to start a weekend. FUCK.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Vin Diesel name is coming up in conversations

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    to play the lead in this remake, or so I have heard....................

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Vin Diesel's name is coming up in conversations

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    to play the lead in this remake, or so I have heard....................

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Yep, posted twice

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    Yep, posted twice.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:20 p.m. CST

    ya CAUSE VIN DIESEL IS BELIEVABLE AS A SCIENTIST/DOCTOR

    by wolvenom

    THAT WAS FUCKING SARCASTIC IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT... FUCK THIS MOVIE!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Carpenter's Masterpiece

    by heywood jablomie

    Don't fuck with perfection. And beyond that: don't go the way of The Fog remake, fuckwits.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:27 p.m. CST

    I wonder if this is because of Del Toro's Mountains...

    by The Dum Guy

    You the studio is doing this just to beat Del Toro to the box office. With this and Hellraiser getting reboots, I'm kinda getting worried for all films in general. Do I hear a remake of Gone With the Wind sans racism and the unhappy ending, being whispered. No... don't be so sure.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Here was the conversation which led to this...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    "Hey, what have we got left to remake? That Mummy guy already ruined all our classic monsters for awhile. Man, that was fun." "Hey, how about The Thing, we could remake that." "The Thing? James Arness gets melted down to a midget by electricity, great atmosphere, snappy dialogue, ended with a great watch the skies warning? Didn't we already remake that?" "Yeah, but somebody screwed up and let John Carpenter do it. Back in the early 80s, when he was humming. Jackass made a movie that was better than the original." "Carpenter again? Damn it. Tell you what. Greenlight this, a remake of Escape from New York starring Ashton Kutchner (dump the eyepatch...and he's in jail because he took the fall for something the Duke of New York did...get Sean Bean for that) and Big Trouble in Little China, because we need a new Owen Wilson/Jackie Chan buddy comedy. Damn that Carpenter. He left us such a mess to clean up."

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Red Ned Lynch

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Unfortunately, that's probably EXACTLY what happened.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST

    And yeah, I saw the Fog, too.

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Simply one of the worst movies ever made. And I don't make that statement lightly. The less said about Precinct 13 the better, though at least a lot of actors I've liked in other things got a paycheck out of it.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    I'm just mad because I watched Prince of Darkness again a few days ago...certainly one of the lesser gems of Carpenter's early, great run. And I remembered it not being so good, but watching it after seeing a lot of more recent horror recently over Halloween I was just sort of amazed at how good Carpenter was, even in a near failure by his 70s-80s standards, at building tension and outright dread, at making the events in the movie seem like they had real weight, real importance. This was just too soon.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Bring back some old school horror legends....

    by giger167

    Strange you should mention that Red Ned Lynch, I also revisited some old lesser Carpenter films recently, films I didn't really care for on release, and you're right, even at his worst he made some great films. I checked out Prince of darkness and it was great. Also In The Mouth Of Madness was really quite brilliant. Ok so we have a rash of horror films being made at the moment, all budgeted between 10-20 million each, mostly rehashes and remakes of old films. Most will show a healthy profit on release by the the time they get to dvd sell-through. Most are complete and utter shite. So why not give a proven film maker like John Carpenter the dosh and make something original and yes maybe even scary. Yes make a horror film scary what a concept lol. And while you're at it greenlight some John Landis films. I'm talking about film makers who understand the concept of tension and atmosphere to create horror, as opposed the gore porn we now have to endure which use simple shock tactics to elicit a response.Just an idea.......

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:03 p.m. CST

    I want remakes of Frogs and Day of the Animals...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Come on, Day of the Animals was even caused by decay of the Ozone layer, and Frogs was caused by pollution. In the environmentally conscious first decade of the new millenium can we not remake these two brilliantly funny but perhaps not so well executed 70s classics? In the original day of the animals we had a racist Leslie Nielson srip off his shirt and wrestle a bear! In Frogs we had a wheelchair bound Ray Milland die from the indignity of having thousands of frogs on his carpet! Sure, it would be hard to duplicate the great casts. Frogs had Joan Van Ark and Sam Elliot, Day of the Animals had Christopher and Lynda Day George, plus Richard Jaeckl, Michael Ansara and Andrew Stevens. But it could be done! And you know what the best thing about remaking these movies would be? You could make them better. Remake Kingdom of the Spiders, too, but make sure Bill gets a cameo.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Amen, Giger167...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    I couldn't agree more, but unfortunately with Land of the Dead underperforming and the demographic requirement that every movie feature only the youngest and most callow actors and premises that can be franchised I don't know how likely that is. But yeah, seeing the level of craftsmanship at work in Carpenter's old movies was, in a way, kind of depressing, because it reminded me of what I'm accepting as "good" now. Still, right now I'm focusing my dread and disgust on the Black Christmas remake, which is already in the can and ready to escape and pollute the world any day. Just the trailer makes clear they missed the point and lacked the craftsmanship of the original.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Half Vader

    by Ray Gamma

    you're a prick. do you assume everyone on here is under 30?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Somebody above said it right

    by Ray Gamma

    If you must do remakes, then choose poorly-made movies that had ok premises, and remake those if you want. But don't take great, perfect movies like this and remake them. You're just asking for failure. By the way, when is the Citizen Kane remake getting made, with Vin Diesel in the lead role?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    about damn time

    by moviequotewhore

    I hope they can get Uwe Bowll, or whatever the fuck his name is, to direct.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Snookeroo...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Damn, glad to read you, I thought I was pretty much alone with my fond memories of the three Beast of Blood Island classics. Those movies scared me stupid when I was a little kid and saw them at the drive-in. Now mind you, they hold up not so well, but for an seven-eight year old back in the day, they were insanely scary. The disembodied monster head making the headless body kill...man!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah...and Half Vader...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...saw Carpenter's The Thing in the theaters. Saw Blade Runner there, too. Liked both of them an awful lot, and yes, they were both box office bombs. Blade Runner is actually one of my strangest movie experiences. When it came out even my usually genre friendly friends (well most of them) didn't like it so much. I really felt like I liked it better than...well...maybe anyone. As it gained popularity over the years I at first felt vindicated, then felt like I had gone from liking it better than anyone else to liking it less than anyone else. Mind you, I was probably prone ot liking it when it came out because my dad filled my childhood with a lot of Bogart and Mitchum films that meshed nicely into the hardboiled, noir aspects of the Scott's future. Oh, by the way, I saw those movies on television to begin with, and some, like The Maltese Falcon, were already remakes, and you know what? I wouldn't want to see them get the Fog remake treatment either.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST

    I'm just glad nothing seems to have developed on...

    by DanielKurland

    that Oldboy remake. Goddamn, ruining that movie would make me so, so sad.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:19 p.m. CST

    " But he also had his hand in Mission: Impossible 2..."

    by Ridge

    Mission Impossible 2's storyline was actually pretty good and there was a decent script there for them to make a good movie out of. The REAL problem, was John Woo. I'm sorry but Woo's directing style and fantastical fight scenes were just everything that was wrong about his movie. Ethan doing a wire work backwards somersault kick? Dual guns, doves, etc etc? I'm sorry but the one movie he's done where he should've been respectful enough not to 'woo' out his movie and he went that extra mile and then some. That's what was wrong with it, Woo, not the script writer.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:25 p.m. CST

    the thing movies use effects of their time

    by Exeter

    1951 Thing had guy in monster suit, 1982's Thing had combination of animatronics/physical effects, annd this one will be CGI. BTW I liked the 1952 Thing most, better characters, best suspense. Got fucking tired of Carpenter's Thing goiig to black dissolve every 5 fucking minutes and well, just fuck that movie. Halloween is the best Carpenter film.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Prequel would be a MUCH better idea

    by fucumber

    The Thing is the third greatest movie of all time (behind Escape From New York and Big Trouble in Little China). There's no reason in the world to remake it, but I've always thought that a prequel showing what happend to the Swedes would be awesome. They could end it with the guys chasing after the dog in the helicopter after their base is destroyed. What am I saying? That would be a new story that would require some original thought . . .

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Remakes

    by rhesusmonkey

    First, thanks Durhay, Podpeople rules. Second, Remakes ROCK! Just wait until they release a remake of Casablanca starring Will Ferrel and that twit from the Buffy show...

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Rhesusmonkey...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...if you want a true trip through the rings of hell try to find the television remake of Casablanca they made in the...maybe 80s starring David Soul in the role of Rick. Still, if they remake it quickly, I suppose they could cast Rob Schneider in the role of Sam. Wouldn't want to miss that, huh?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Best Antarctic movie ever

    by Antz

    It got the feel of life on the Ice spot on (apart from having gun racks and flame throwers sitting about). No other film has ever done that. But the film is great as is, it does not need to be remade. If anything go for a sequel, maybe show what happens when the folks from McMurdo go to investigate.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Those that think the 1951 was better than Carpenters...

    by wolvenom

    NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP... cause they obviously dont know their ass from a hole in the ground. Carpenter's The Thing was the definitive version and it rocks out like no other.... If you talk to anyone on the street no matter how fucking old and ask them what first comes to mind when they think of 'the thing' they start talking about Carpenters DEFINITIVE VERSION of the thing... SO STFU ABOUT THAT 1951 splooge fest with the man in suit bs and to say the acting was better is a fucking joking. Acting didn't get good till the 70's so STFU AND EAT IT!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Captain RawBeard; Also a note for haters

    by Almost_Human

    Captain RawBeard, I submit that John Carpenter didn't do something "new" like Cronenberg with The Fly. Instead he went to the original short story HH based the 1951 version upon. The creature in Carpenter's film is what John W. Campbell described in "Who Goes There?". And he captured the claustrophobic feel of Campbell's story with the help of cinematographer Dean Cundy. I fine film with absolutely nothing wrong with it but it in no way compares to the innovation of Cronenberg [except maybe the effects, Rob Bottin is hard to beat]. Now for all you haters of the 1951 version, you whining bitches need to give it a rest. HH did the best he could with the tech and censorship of the times. It's still head and shoulders above most of the SF films of 1951. History is often about context, that includes film history.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:24 p.m. CST

    And . . .

    by Almost_Human

    DAMN YOU UNIVERSAL!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Yum

    by Alientoast

    The 80's remake of The Thing is probably one of the top 10 horror movies of all time, so obviously it has big shoes to fill. However, Moore does solid work with BSG and I thought the Dawn remake was a better horror movie then the original Dawn, which I do like but view as more of a fun/dark comedy film. One request: Dont go overboard with the CGI in this movie. Use it to compliment, but dont do pure CGI. The 80s Thing still stands up pretty well today for some of the FX shots in it, like the scene on the operating table or the dog kennel.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Almost Human...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    51' version isn't just better than most 1951 scifi and horror, it's better than most scifi and horror made today. It isn't better than Carpenter's, in my opinion, but even that's a win on points, not a knockout. And I'd probably put both movies in a list of...well, maybe two hundred horror films ever made. Circling the outline in the ice, finding the plants the Arness monster was growing, those are just flat out great horror movie moments. But come on, Wolvenom ended his post by suggesting good acting wasn't invented until the 70s. Are you really going to get upset by someone that...hmmm...film challenged?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Foster should leave THE THING the fuck alone

    by Monkey_King

    He should focus on getting THE LOCH made with a decent script and cast, since he got the rights from Steve Alten anyway. Needless remakes still haunt us. This would be the 3rd remake of a Carpenter film. I have more faith in Zombie's HALLOWEEN than a needless THING remake. The 80's weren't that long ago, Carpenter's version is still the best version(and faithful version) and it's still fresh in our memories.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Even two hundred...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...(best) horror movies ever made. Though the Carpenter version would be alone in the top 50.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:49 p.m. CST

    half vader

    by davidlyons

    william shakespere never existed, he was a front used by expelled writers of the day. check your history out. the real shakespere could hardly sign his name let alone write any kind of masterpiece. its one of the english's greatest deceptions upon the world but unfortunatley for them and their tourist industry one of the easiest to pull apart. shakespere desrves no respect whatsoever. don't believe me just google it and check out the facts, oh and like the greeks for in stance weren't better writers than him, credit given when credits due nad blame given when blames due. wait till they remake and fuck up something you like. in fact why don't you just tell us all what your fav film is and we'll make sure thay shit on it -- just for you!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:52 p.m. CST

    LISTEN TO WOLVERNOM

    by davidlyons

    they know the truth!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:53 p.m. CST

    you suck red ned lynch! almost as much as the 1951 vers

    by wolvenom

    AND YES I WATCHED IT... AND IT FUCKING BLOWED GOATS!!! SO BORING COMPARED TO CARPENTERS... AND CARPENTERS VERSION IS A COMPLETE BLOWOUT IN TERMS OF ITS AWESOMENESS COMPARED TO THE 1951 VERSION. THERE IS NO DENYING THIS

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 6:56 p.m. CST

    nosferatu jones

    by davidlyons

    1).tarantino is not making any kind of zombie movie. 2) any kind of empathy with the characters would destroy the paranoia because as an audience were not suposed to trust anyone NOT EVEN THE MAIN CHARACTER, thats how you believable create PARANOIA. YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYONE.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:01 p.m. CST

    oh, for christ's sake

    by occula

    i know we have grammar police all over this site, but for the love of all that's holy, david lyons, if you're going to frakking discuss shakespeare, spell the man's name correctly - whether you believe he was one person or the goddamned entire writer's guild.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7 p.m. CST

    I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG!

    by wolvenom

    Post 70's SCI FI- Star wars, matrix, aliens, Carpenters thing, Blade runner, blade runner, aliens, 2001, back to the future, twelve monkeys, planet of the apes, ET, close encounters of the third kind, abyss, and a SHIT LOAD OF OTHERS... NOW LETS LOOK AT PRE 1970's... THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL AND FORBIDDEN PLANET... every other sci-film acting sucked donkey balls!! DO NOT DEBATE ME ON THIS!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:04 p.m. CST

    for the cheap seats

    by davidlyons

    likeable characters will not mix with paranoia, it ruins tension pace and atmosphere, things(no pun intended) you EXPECT from a film of this nature. its like having a rapist child molestor as the main character in a christmas disney flick. DOES NOT BELONG>

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:05 p.m. CST

    wolvernom

    by davidlyons

    fuck him he's dead. and he don't get no respect from me. how d'ja like that grammmmmmaaarrrrr

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    sorry wolvernom

    by davidlyons

    that comment was directed at occula obviously a transivanian optician.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    occula

    by davidlyons

    he sees through the night

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:11 p.m. CST

    occula

    by davidlyons

    where exactly in the OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY is the word FRAKKING. this a forum for film talkback not an english lesson. PASSION OUTWEIGHS GRAMMATICS

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:21 p.m. CST

    you know your doing well on this site

    by davidlyons

    when people start their talkback with your name at the top of the page and then have generally fuck all to say back to you. Oh and if you look that "f" word up in the dictionary i think you'll find it there. fuck universal they deserve all they get. goodight and goodluck!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:24 p.m. CST

    A funny thing happened...

    by no bafflegab

    ...on the way to a world without movies. This remake will undoubtedly be another nail in the coffin of film as we know it. Another "Hands-off-me-you-bastards!" classic in the hands of some hack with money to burn on a project. But enjoy the crap that the industry is feeding you for it may one day be no more. When a release runs for 4 hours before a plot line is established so filmakers can introduce and balance screentime for all involved special interest groups(and make no mistake, they must all be included in the interest of complete diversity; so I damn well better see a balding,short-tempered Irishman with hammertoes in the cast, or you'll be hearing from the B.S.T.I.W.H.A.), we will have seen the demise of cinema as we know it. (insiders report that such a film is in the works-clocking in at 14 hours runtime, it recounts the story of several thousand shipwreck survivors and how they develop a thriving metropolis using only coconuts, bamboo and thatch-all rendered in the finest second-tier CGI.)

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Wolvenom...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...keeping in mind, of course, the I suck as much as The Thing, and it blowed goats...you need to see more horror and science fiction from before the 70s. This failure is in you, not the films of that era. For instance, try Creation of the Humanoids, a no budget second feature that appears to have been filmed on one hurriedly redressed set, with some of the worst acting in the history of film. And yet the makers of this movie could sue Harlan Ellison (which would have made me smile)as they explored pretty much every moral and ethical issue involving the creation of human-like robots while Harlan was still writing soft core porn. Of course, within the genre, you have also just cast aside nearly everything made by Amicus, AIP, Hammer and Universal. By your lights The Creature From the Black Lagoon "blowed goats" and I suppose Van Helsing was a better take on Frankenstein than either the original or Bride. Dracula 2000 was superior to Hammer's The Blood of Dracula, and...well the list is nearly infinite. Oh yes, you are right.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Universal! Where's the JAWS remake?!

    by Sir Loin

    I mean, you could update the JAWS themepark ride at Universal Studios and make even MORE MONEY! C'mon, do it! The ENTIRE FRICKIN' WORLD is clamoring for more remakes, get with it you empty suits!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Nosferatu Jones...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...clearly I disagree with you about both films, but I also found an awful lot of the characters pretty sympathetic. Sure they acted badly, even stupidly at times, but that was the product of the situation they were in, and to my mind a realistic assessment of how one might react put into such a terrifically horrific situation. Wilford Brimley could even be said to have acted with incredibly selfless nobility in trying to destroy every way out of the base. Richard Masur (Clark) loved his dogs, and even though you could argue that Keith and Russell were both pretty Randian in their response, they were facing the possibility that their fellow humans were not human and were going to subsume them in an absolutely horrific way. And even both of those guys faced their ultimate fate with a very human and very admirable measure of nobility. And the initial reactions of these guys, after the helicopter crash, isn't just to take in the dog but to travel to the other camp, at risk to their own lives, to help others. I don't know what you're looking for to make a character sympathetic, but if it's a cliche driven squared-jawed hero man who provides most of the always noble answers on cue, my guess is right now they're planning the Thing for you.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:42 p.m. CST

    agreed...

    by davidlyons

    but i assure you it distances the audience from the possible tension because their thinking "oh thats the hero/heroine" and will be obviously looking for the "twist ending" when their not. Having unlikable characters gives you the advantage of not having the audience not be able to second guess you. if you don't know who to trust, you don't know who will survive. i respect your opinion and your grammar. unlike occula prince of sun shades.hahahahahahahahaha

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Yes! Jaws 2008!

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Starring Freddie Prinze Junior as Brody, Seth Green as Cooper and Matthew Lillard as Quint! This time Brody's wife, played by Jessica Simpson tags along for the hunt...and she brought bikinis!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:46 p.m. CST

    and like that...

    by davidlyons

    he's gone! love you occula, just because my names davidlyons ( what film is that from?) doesn't mean i'm a man. girls have strong remake feelings too!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:52 p.m. CST

    This will never escape the DEEPEST, DARKEST . . .

    by ProzacMorris

    DEVELOPEMENT HELL! No worries, really.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Jaws 2008

    by no bafflegab

    I can see the script. Quint: "Dude,...we were in the water and..are you listening??...screaming dude!" (camera zoom on Quint's face, his eyes are wide, fists clenched, perspiration on the brow, he stares at Cooper) Quint:(the tension breaks and the stare becomes more vacant, the voice is quiet, as if far away) "Dude...they were all screaming..." Cooper: (slight pause)"Whoa..." (Camera pans to Cooper crushing a syrofoam cup)

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:04 p.m. CST

    JAWS 2008: Quint was on the USS Comfort

    by Sir Loin

    He had just delivered the comfort...the FEMA Hurricane Katrina comfort...when he and 3 shipmates fell overboard after a drunken night of MySpace trolling. The 3 shipmates were all swallowed whole by a nurse shark and now he's OUT FOR REVENGE and will never wear a lifejacket again. I vote William Shatner for Quint, James Spader for Chief Brody, and, yes, Freddie Prinze, Jr. for Hooper. Oh and Jessica Simpson for Ellen Brody, of course. SOLID BOX-OFFICE GOLD. Why is Universal waiting on this? CGI Bruce, too. None of this "practical FX" crap.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Not a typo

    by no bafflegab

    I'd have included a "t" in the word styrofoam in the previous post, but Universal called and said that they were short one and would need it for this remake's title. That'll be a charity write-off on my taxes.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Clarity

    by no bafflegab

    Remake in question there being "The Thing", not "Jaws". Obvoius, but these talkbacks can get picky. Brilliant choice on Shatner, but Bruce should be a man in a gorilla suit with a fishbowl on his head and rendered in cel animated crayolas.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Further clarity, that was a typo

    by no bafflegab

    Obviously. I'm going to lay by my dish now.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Sir Loin...

    by 9SilentNine9

    Maybe if Bush and his administration actually responded to the Katrina disaster instead of being on vacation... Quint wouldn't have had to be on that ship. It's great that you can crack a joke about it, though. At least the Dow is breaking records, right?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 8:52 p.m. CST

    9SilentNine9

    by Sir Loin

    Dude. You're setting a bad example for liberals everywhere. Have a laugh once in awhile, and don't try to blame everything on who is president. Wait, scratch that, reverse. Bush CAUSED Katrina via some diabolical, secret Pentagon weapon (designed by Rumsfeld himself) so I guess you're right. My bad for an attempt at humor, I shall go donate to Nancy Pelosi's Botox fund as punishment.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Remake Flesh Gordon!

    by EvilWizardGlick

    More Penisaurus's with better graphics.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Well don't tie me to the fucking couch for this...

    by KongMonkey

    Remakes are for milking profits, especially when they are unnecessary.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Nosferatu Jones...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    I can agree with you on one thing. If they must remake this film, which in my opinion has already been made perfectly well two times, with two very different visions, I hope they create a third instead of aping what came before. And on that last count, my hope here does fall on Ron Moore. Because he did...all right with Battlestar Galactica.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Jaws 2008...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...I just can't wait to see the scene where "Show me the way to go home" and "Farewell and Adieu to you Fair Spanish Ladies" fades into a mournful Simpson pop ballad just before the shark eats the lights. Ahhh....cinema.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Moore is one hell of a writer

    by Phategod2

    But this is going to come down to the Director you know all the hacks are going to come out of the wood works trying to get this one as for Russels role If said this about all carpenters work that you could substitute Bruce willis for the lead in any carpenter movie. nows a chance to make it happen.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10 p.m. CST

    Phategod2???

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Substitute Willis for Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween? Well, okay...I can see it. Know you meant the Russell ones, just couldn't resist. But I really really really hope that if they do remake this there won't be any corresponding characters. Make it their own movie save for the preordained bones of a plot. It's the only way it has any chance not to be dreadful.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:15 p.m. CST

    People, stop the remake rants

    by Mister Man

    They've always done it, they always will. The first remakes were in the 1910s. Get over it, and out of your UnderRoos. Study film history. Talk to people over 20.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:23 p.m. CST

    TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Which is what I would have to be to watch a remake of The Thing. Quite frankly I would rather they remade Jaws or ESB with a hip update for modern teen sensibilities than let anyone near this. The director, the writer, the special effects guy and every single fucking member of the cast nailed it as has rarely been seen before. In my view it is the single best movie of its genre ever made. I remember a suggestion once, that true movie fans should be allowed to vote for 5 movies each year that then become untouchable, and can not have remakes, reboots, sequels, prequels or any other variations. It is a good idea, but it will never happen, so I will fall back on my backup plan of fire-bombing the homes of anyone involved in this.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Mister Man...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...people have always practiced cannibalism, too, but that doesn't mean we have to support or or approve of it. As for me this sort of thing goes on a case by case basis. As I said in an earlier post, Huston's Maltese Falcon was a damn fine remake. For that matter, Carpenter's remake of The Thing was fine. What you see in these threads lately, though, I think, is a reaction to the wholesale remake fever that has siezed Hollywood these last few years. And there is no question that the number of remakes has been much higher in the last ten years than in any previous decade since Fred Ott sneezed. Add in the seemingly prefunctory and often absolutely shoddy quality of these remakes (ie The Omen, The Fog) and you have a trend in cinema that many folks react negatively to. I'm not against the idea of a filmmaker remaking a movie because he or she has a vision of the product they want to express, but whatever the decade the wholesale repackaging of movies for the sake of using a known title is probably not good for the movie going public. Can't say I blame folks for ranting about that. Why do you?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:35 p.m. CST

    DON'T DO THIS!

    by darth kubrick

    That's my vote. That said, I'd like to state that this is my all-time favorite dvd. The commentary with Russell and Carpenter is great and the making of doc featuring Rob Botin is the best special feature ever. That dude is sick. To think of all those creature effects done on computers with no interaction to the actors is really a bummer. Don't do it Uni!!

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:45 p.m. CST

    *I* wanted to do the "TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!" line

    by Osmosis Jones

    :(

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:47 p.m. CST

    the "TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!" line

    by Alonzo Mosely

    May be one of the single best deliveries in movie history...

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    You know what needs to be remade?

    by ELGordo

    Plan 9 from outer space. I wanna see the armies of the undead like they talked about, the space ships, Miss Ex Tim Burton as a hottie goth chick vampire (what happened to her anyway?) and George Wendt as a Tor Johnson type zombie.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:01 p.m. CST

    another reason i prefer the 1951 Hawks version

    by Exeter

    it has a female in it! a gorgeous raven-haied female with delicious jugs pointing through that sweater of hers. Carpenter's Thing wipes its ass with all the horror/scifi films today but my personal taste i just prefer the '51 movie more; like the Red Scare analogy, the vegetable-based creature, the more noirish and classicism way of filmaking and reliance on suspense over gore. 82 version has too much of that nihilistic/cynical 70s taste to it which i'm nnot saying is bad i just like the older classical type approach more. btw that wolvenom muppet saying acting didn't get good till the 70s tells you where's he's coming from, best to ignore him entirely.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:05 p.m. CST

    I don't know...

    by SebastianHaff

    Just because Carpenter's The Thing (sounds like we're talking about his penis, I assure you I'm not) was a remake doesn't mean we can't bitch about it being remade again. Carpenter's version brought something totally new and fucking scary to the basic premise of the original film. Why do I have a feeling this version will just steal all the best parts from Carpenter and throw a bunch of WB pretty boys in the gaps?

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:48 p.m. CST

    a funny thing

    by dr.bulber

    happened on the way to the forum.

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Wait a minute!

    by dirtsandwich

    Frank Darabont was suppose to direct a continuation from JC The Thing as amini-series for the SciFi channel. Then it was reported that the dudes behind Slither (James Gunn - Writer director) was doing a prequel. Well Damn of the Dead James Gunn wrote the screenplay. So does that mean these people are going to make a prequel and a "companion" to JC's The Thing? Or did they drop the prequel idea and plan on just doing the companion film?

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Man, there is a lot of talkback on this one

    by streakerfreak1983

    Well, just to put my two cents in. I liked the 1952 film more then Carpenters and I am only 23. I don't know why, I guess there was nothing that really pulled me in. Sorry, to all you Carpenter lovers. You know the only film of his I really enjoyed was The Fog. Yeah, even Halloween did not reel me in. No clue why, it should, I have watched it many times too. I am actually excited to see Rob Zombie's version. I love his first two films. He has brought some spice into a tired old genre that in recent years has given us crap filled teen or just retarded horror ala Scream, The Grudge, and The Ring kind of crap and most of the remakes. I guess I am more into the likes of the original Omen, Wicker Man, I love the exorcist. I guess my horror films are films that do not take them selves seriously like Evil Dead or Robs Films or they make you feel so uncomfortable like the exorcist. But it does not matter anyways for I am all the way at the bottom here.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 12:07 a.m. CST

    WHOOPS!!

    by streakerfreak1983

    I meant 1951 verson.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 12:23 a.m. CST

    fuck them

    by WolfmanNards

    I wont fuckin' see it.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 5:12 a.m. CST

    No Bafflegab

    by Ray Gamma

    one of the smartest and funniest contributors to this board

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 5:15 a.m. CST

    One final thought...

    by Ray Gamma

    If only America's youth would put this much passion and energy into political activism, and defending their civil liberties...

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 5:40 a.m. CST

    The 82 Thing wasn't really a remake.

    by WONKABAR

    In name only really. It was about as much a remake as Blade Runner was based on a William S. Buroughs story. ALIEN was more of a remake then the original "The Thing" So lets not get carried away with the whole "remake of a remake" idea.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 6:31 a.m. CST

    For the love of God, just keep the original ending!

    by amychaser5

    I'd be really pissed off at this news if I weren't so helplessly annoyed. Save for some CGI-version of the already perfect effects of Carpenter's "Thing," I see no possible point to this project, no matter what talent is behind it. Having said that, the only thing I REALLY care about as far as a remake is the keeping of the original ending. The open-as-fuck ending to Carpenter's project was a pitch perfect way to end the story...hopefully the team behind the remake will keep that in mind.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Lots of comments about The Thing

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    If nothing else, it's good that people care so much about this film. It's a very good one, and one that seems to have lasted. Ultimately, I think that's a bigger victory than opening weekend box office. Thanks, John Carpenter and co, for making this film that we all like so much that we'll squabble about whether this new remake will be shit or not.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Well excuuuuuuuuuse me (to the guys further up the TB)!

    by half vader

    Um, didn't the absolutely outrageous statements I was making tip anyone off to the idea that I might be joking for crying out loud? I even said they should remake Burton's Planet of the Apes! Blaming people for being born at the wrong time? Being a complete snob about how/on what medium you first saw the film? Obviously gotta get myself some of those big-arse winking smileys and stop mixing facetious and joke posts in with the regular stuff. Whoa Nellie. ________ Doc, I don't think I actually used the word 're-imagining' at all. That was Rupee, posting inbetween my stuff. And I do know about "Who goes there". And by the way, C. None of the above, in reference to your comments. I was just mucking around at 2 in the morning. Although Spidercoz' thing about Forbidden Planet does betray that he has no idea about The Tempest, the rest of the post was sarcastic so I thought it was fair to cut him some slack there too. Ray Gamma & Uridium (reference to the game? cool!), see initial comments above. Davidlyons, you missed the point completely, and as for my favourite movie, you missed the boat. George Lucas already fucked that one up himself good and proper! Red Ned, that's cool that you were already primed for Blade Runner. I was saying in a Brick talkback that I couldn't understand why BR gets a free pass as the coolest thing ever but nearly everyone was shitting on Brick (shitting a brick?) even though high school is probably the most ideal way to use the analogy from a storytelling point of view. Anyway, what do I know? I hate Shrek!

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Here's a thought...

    by Ray Gamma

    Can I just point out that absolutely NOBODY will be getting angry like this in 20 years' time about current movies. Can you imagine it? Some guy in 2027 typing furious messages into his holo-computer about how pissed off he is that they're re-making "The Fast & The Furious". Seriously.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Here is my favourite horror films

    by emeraldboy

    ever made: ready the fly(david cronenberg) the elephant man (david lynch) The thing (john Carpenter) Halloween(john carpenter) Chuck Russells remake of the blob. Final Destination one Aliens, Nosferatu with Max Shreck, Lon Chaney's phantom of the opera. Todd Browings Dracula starring Bela Lugosi. Stuff the killer Ice Cream from outer space. you have to hand to the guys that made that one. killer Ice cream. genius. Once seen never forgotten. Piranha.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Mick Foley should be in this movie.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    Really............

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 9:48 a.m. CST

    I like how everyone says "ONE of Carpenters best"

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Isn't this his best? What has he done that is 'better' than "The Thing"? Halloween is a classic, but not as good as this imo

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 10:04 a.m. CST

    take a ritalin!

    by occula

    well, whoever that lunatic girl was, i think she needs to watch a little BSG too and then she won't get so mad over the fact that loads of us nerds on this site use the word 'frak.' you know, i was at a screening of 'the thing' with carpenter and the mood of the Q&A was utterly reverent. and he was a really nice guy about it - fully aware but not arrogant about the impact the film had on the genre.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 11:26 a.m. CST

    awww, film geeks, you're adorable

    by crimsonsplendor

    How angry you get at movies that no one is forcing you to see. Think of it like this: the film industry is really TWO entities. Like the humans and the thing in THE THING. Dig? Mainstream hollywoods only goal is to make money, just like the things only goal is to take over the world. So they don't want to take risks (just like the thing wants to stay hidden), and they turn out truly horrible pieces of shit (like anything promoted as "the new film by ______ wayans). Horrible yes, but guaranteed to make money. Independant films are like Kurt Russell. They have balls and they're tenacious. So at the end of the day they survive (or do they?) The thing will always try to infiltrate and destroy, but the resiliant humans will find a way to fight back and... shit. This analogy is getting way to complex, so fuck it. There will always be good, original movies with balls, but most of these movies would never get made or get distrubution without the money studios make from their dreck. After all, most studios have divisions that deal specifically with more independant-minded films. Also, movies made outside of the structures of 'the industry' can very, very easily be just as shitty.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I wonder if they'll have the thumb cutting scene

    by Omegaman

    One of the most disturbing scenes in the history of movies. Once I see that I cant stop thnking about it for days *wince*. With all the crazy shit that goes on in that movie thats the one that freaks me out the most lol.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Disappointed

    by Bazzz

    I thought Moore had better sense than to do crap like this. I guess this makes it official - Hollywood has no new ideas.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Oh for the love of Benji...

    by ULTRA WARRIOR

    Stop remaking movies that don't NEED to be remade. This movie stands alone as a Classic. To remake it would be lame & pointless. Don't believe me? Go watch that clusterfuck of a remake of The Omen.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    CarmillaVonDoom...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Carpenter made several movies that could be argued to be his best. For most of the world Halloween would be considered his best. It was the most popular, most iconic, and some would argue that its influence on the genre is still being felt today. Assault of Precinct 13, made for about 20 bucks, broke taboos and smashed the western into the contemporary horror movie in a way that was almost unseen at the time. Just some of the dialogue in that movie will always make it one of my favorite Carpenter movies..."He don't stand up as good as he used to"..."No arguing with a confident man"...just fantastic. Escape From New York is another iconic classic, with Snake Plisken being a classic film character, bringing a nihilism to the action genre that hadn't been seen there much before. I suppose there could be quite convincing arguments made that any of those three are Carpenter's best film. There may well even be contingents championing Big Trouble in Little China or The Fog. You know, there are guys, like Hooper with TCM, where identifying the greatest movie they ever made is pretty easy. Carpenter isn't one of those. He's done a lot of good work over the years, though sadly most of it is now well in the past. I don't think there would be too many arguing that Vampires or Ghosts of Mars would be his masterpiece.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Fuk, while your at it, remake ALIEN. *morons*

    by CENOBITE

    The Think has to be my favorite horror film after ALIEN. These money grubbing Hollywood jerk-offs better just rethink this move to 'remake' it.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Heh ... "The Think"

    by CENOBITE

    oops. heh, Freudian slip... (Wish someone at Universal were "thinking".)

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Prequil

    by fireclown

    Now stay with me. There is a damned good movie to be had with the saga of the Swedish party that hosted the thing before the Americans. What's that? Oh right. Norwegians.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 3:19 p.m. CST

    and another thing

    by fireclown

    Give me the big zombie army fights that the original Day Of The Dead script had cut out. No more remakes till that happens.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 4:13 p.m. CST

    fireclown

    by Sir Loin

    That's a great idea about the Norwegian side of events. Finding the crashed ship, then the frozen alien, and finally The Thing taking over before the dog escapes would be awesome to see. Alas, we shall get a crapfest instead.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Actually, Cenobite...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...I think you were on to something. Don't know what it would be about, don't even know what genre it would be in, but I now have a real desire to see "The Think". And if it was "The Think From Another World" that would be even better.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 4:19 p.m. CST

    nosferatu, why the shit should they be emo/cynical

    by Exeter

    your complaint the '51 Thing they're too 'chummy and friendly' they have no reason to be because unlike the drunks/acid-heads/hippie boys of Carpenter's Thing where the body-snatcher situation already worsens their already detached crabby relationships, the '51 Thing is a post-WWII research station with many officers from the war and scientists, more respectable and mature, and the place has more importance and weight in the just brand new Cold War world unlike the slack jawed slum of the 82 one.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Please listen to me

    by dvdbob

    The best thing that we can do to show our displeasure with this idea is to NOT see the film and Not rent or buy the DVD. Someday, Hollywood will learn to come up with an original idea and stop trying to remake films like "The Thing", "Near Dark" and so on but if people keep forking over their hard earned cash to terrible movies they might never learn. I love John Carpenter and I own alomost every movie that he has directed but to be honest "The Fog" was never one of my favorites and I certainly have never seen the remake on principal alone. I will also admit that the "Dawn of the Dead" re make was better than it had any right to be but that doesn't mean it should have been made. Please stop supporting the needless re makes and sequels that Hollywood keeps pumping out!! Instead, refuse to give them your money, go read a book, watch a DVD already in your collection or go take a nice long healthy walk.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 4:30 p.m. CST

    DVDBob

    by Red Ned Lynch

    I will (mildly...sort of) disagree with you about Near Dark. Because as great as 99% of that movie was, as great as the central conceit was, as great as Lnace Henrikson and Bill Paxton were in it, the end of Near Dark sold out completely. Worse, it was a horrible herald for decades of film where turning into a vampire, werewolf or other undead monster, sometimes even dying at their hands, became a less permanent problem than contracting herpes. Near Dark has a spot in my DVD collection, but the end of that movie was one of the earliest cases of Hollywood Happy Enditis, which has developed into a condition more intractable than vampirism. And on a movie that isn't good who cares, but on a movie as good as Near Dark was otherwise, it is horrible. I'll give them a remake on that one, so long as they give it a real ending. (Yes, I know that is likely the only thing from the original to remain...just making a point that flawed but in some ways extraordinary films are the kind that could be profitably remade, if anyone cared to do them right).

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Thumb-cutting scene

    by RonaldLark

    Omegaman, I agree with you. That grossed me the hell out, and I watched it over and over again to see if it was real or not. Looked real to me. I can see it now: Actor: So, how are we going to do make it look like I'm actually cutting my thumb? John Carpenter: Just cut your thumb, you fucking pussy!!!

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Escape Antarctica

    by banditmania

    The Thing vs Snake Pliskin.

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 11:55 p.m. CST

    You gotta be...

    by Skankardly

    fuckin' kiddin'!

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 2:10 a.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOO!

    by Sepulchrave

    Perfect film. Nobody can get it right again; too much Carpenter's baby, down to the memorable Carpenter soundtrack. And still the grossest thing in movie history. Wilford Brimley 'I'd really like to come inside now.' And Donald 'FUCKING COUCH!!' Moffat. And a jive-talkin' black cook (slightly racist) on rollerskates wearing headphones. And The way that Norwegian guy flops over after he's been shot. And the C64 computers. I hate modern horror; it's so slick and worthless.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Sequel: The Thing vs. the Happy Feet penguins

    by half vader

    "Don't be afraid, I love yoBLURRURRGGHH!"

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 4:42 a.m. CST

    re: Sepulchrave

    by Ray Gamma

    It was Ennio Morricone who did the score for Carpenter's "The Thing". Not John Carpenter himself, even though it sounds like his stuff.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Practical VS CGI effects

    by Ray Gamma

    If they do this with practical effects it will SLIGHTLY redeem it. But if they go all Peter Jackson's King Kong on it, IT WON'T HAVE ONE OUNCE of the visceral, horrific nastiness of the original. When is Hollywood going to realise that people can SEE CGI?!!!!! You're asking too much of us, Hollywood, when you ask us to suspend disbelief to that extent. CGI simply DOES NOT frighten audiences.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 6:02 a.m. CST

    re Morricone

    by DocPazuzu

    Apparently, Morricone created a few different scores for the film of which the one chosen was mostly just an playful exercise on Morricone's part, a riff on the familiar Carpenter noodlings -- kind of an hommage. Morricone was very surprised that Carpenter ended up choosing that particular score since he thought he had been hired to create something different -- which is kind of funny, actually. Still, the score is such an indelible part of the overall experience of watching that film. I can only imagine the TRUE horror of watching the remake's "hip, young cast" fighting off shapeshifters to the inevitably trendy rawk tunes.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 6:04 a.m. CST

    "an playful"...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...sheesh...

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Carpenter's film was only very vaguely a re-make

    by Psychonaut

    Both it and the original movie was adaptions of the short story "Who Goes There?" The difference is, Carpenter's movie was a slightly more faithful adaption than the 50's movie, in that it kept the book's central conceit about the alien taking the form of whatever it killed. To say that Carpenter's film is a re-make is a bit like saying every one of the 1,000,000 or so adaptations of "The Hound of the Baskervilles" that have been filmed is a re-make of the one that preceded it, rather that just a new version of the book. Accordingly, if Carpenter's The Thing is not considered to be a re-make, when was the last time there was a re-make that was in any way worthwhile? Dawn of the Dead was OK, but it didn't go anywhere new with Romero's ideas; it just took the shopping mall setting and made a stock zombie gore movie in it. Personally, I'm struggling to think of a properly decent remake that's been made since The Magnificent Seven, and even that still wasn't as good as the original.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Doc knows the score

    by half vader

    Hey Doc, notice I answered you a bit further up there? Are we cool now? BTW I'd like to hear the other takes on the score. It'd be interestesting to see how or if they changed the tone. Did they ever get further than Ennio playing a piano piece for Carpenter?

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Score more...

    by Ray Gamma

    It's inevitable that they'll do some kind of shitty alt/rock/metal soundtrack for this... because that's "what's appealing to the DEMOGRAPHIC" after all... and it'll have some teenagers led by Sarah Michelle Gellar who will team up with Vin Diesel and kick The Thing's ass with some tight karate moves. Marilyn Manson will be on the soundtrack. FUCK I HATE HOLLYWOOD.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 10:28 a.m. CST

    the all-male cast in the original...

    by Ray Gamma

    The all-male cast in the original (Carpenter's, that is) were brilliant. Who was it said there wasn't one likeable character in the film? That was the whole point, wasn't it? He deliberately chose a bunch of ugly, middle-aged men to add to the incredible sense of paranoia. To make you feel like any one of these miserable, shifty looking bastards could be about to split wide open and throw a heap of slippery tentacles at you... This film will not work if they put pretty nubile idiots in it. You hear me Universal? If you put Lindsay Lohan in this film I will send every one of you a dog turd wrapped in bacon.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 10:53 a.m. CST

    half vader

    by DocPazuzu

    I just saw that. Yeah, we're cool. Sorry about the belligerent rhetoric. I guess my irono-meter must have been temporarily disconnected.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Good For Them...

    by FreakNStuff

    You know, I could rant and rave about remakes like a lot of people, but really, does it diminish the originals? I don't think so. Most of the time remakes suck donkeys, but once in a while they meet or exceed. I just bought the new 'The Thing' DVD and I loved it. If the new one works, great, if not, hey, it's not my money they are dumping into it. I like to think they make remakes from passion - that they love the movie so much they want to do it again. But really, it's probably about a built in audience. Curiosity will bring in fans of the other film(s) and kids will watch because its horror/sci-fi. Will I watch it? Chances are yes, on DVD from zip.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST

    I know you gentlemen have been through a lot

    by seppukudkurosawa

    But when you find the time... I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 3:31 p.m. CST

    ;-)

    by seppukudkurosawa

    It's a good line, thought it'd bear repeating.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 5:35 p.m. CST

    OK

    by seppukudkurosawa

    I'll admit, I didn't read the talkback before I posted that, so I look kinda douchey.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Monster2Bpitied...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...I bow to you.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Freddy Vs Ash Vs Jason Vs Alien vs Thing vs Predator

    by Mogera44

    Now we got remake of Saturday the 14th.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Did anyone here see

    by dirtsandwich

    The 82 The Thing on TV? It had narration, and scenes not in the theatrical version. Probably to fill the holes from the gore scenes cut out. The last scene of the movie showed a dog running away from the camp during daylight. It stops, looks back at the smoldering camp and then you hear narration.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Remember the X-Files...

    by pdennett316

    episode with the little worm guys? Thats essentially a Thing remake, though after seeing that unbelievable piece of shit Fog remake, I'm under no illusions it will be even close to this. The Fog remake was wrong on every level - casting? Shit! Concept? Shit! Visual effects? So fucking shit!!! Since when do fucking 20 year olds become grizzled fishermen? The new thing will probably be based around GM foods, so they can reuse the original Carrot-Guy monster. God awful idea, but will watch to see if anything can beat the Fog remake as worst movie of all time.

  • Nov. 19, 2006, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Oh, yet another remake gets green light.

    by kabong

    The Thing things have evolved. Some of them have been programmed to think they are human. And they have a plan. Oh, was that the wrong remake? It'll be box office boffo anyway . . . if it has . . . TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENS.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Alien and The Thing

    by dirtsandwich

    worked because of the vulnerability and isolation of the characters. "In space no one can hear you Scream". And neither can they "1000 miles from no where man!". I love The Thing because there's no Hollywood baggage in it. You know like tits and stuff. No love stories, no out of place sex scenes. Just in your fucking face horror. The remake will probably have George Clowny, Ben Asslick or some popular fuck to bring in more people and he will SAVE the day! Save the world. His women was in danger, so he saved her, licked her box and everyone was happy in the end. It will be a formula story. Right out of the story play book. It will have one of the most stupid, cliched, over used, least effective tricks used in horror movies today. Super fucking loud, fast motion, zoom in, scare tactics. This remake is seriously going to suck whale cock if they make it like all they other dime a dozen horror flics of today. Thanks for fucking up a good THING!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Ron Moore's involved? It could seriously KICK ASS...

    by Triumph poops!

    You know, I have to say I've never understood the utter lovefest over Carpenter's version of THE THING. As a longtime fan of the Howard Hawks original, I enjoyed Carpenter's version (I won't say "remake" since the Hawks version is only tenuously based on the original Cambell short story) for what it was, but I never thought it was THAT great. As an ensemble piece, the characters in it are merely "ok" (let's be honest, there's really NOT any great sense of character development) and while I loved Bottin's physical effects work, the ending was a MAJOR let down to me. That final stop motion monster was truly underwhelming. Not to mention, the way Carpenter handled it just seemed equally cut rate. Kurt Russell basically tosses a stick of dynamite and its all over. But I will say this: Ron Moore made me eat total crow over BATTLESTAR: GALACTICA. I was one of the naysayers who thought it would completely suck and instead he created one of the BEST dramas airing on all of TV. So the fact that Moore is actually doing the screenplay for this IMMEDIATELY elevates this project to A plus status. And given advances in special effects -- both physically done on set AND in terms of CGI -- I can't wait to see a new THING brought to life. So I'm totally stoked about this one. The only question I have is, is this theatrical or for TV? SciFi Channel announced THEY were doing a remake of THE THING as a miniseries event (and keep in mind SciFi Channel IS owned by Universal). And given that SciFi airs BATTLESTAR, and its their big hit, I could see them reaching out to Moore and asking him to do more for them. On the flip side, I could see Moore wanting to use BATTLESTAR's success to land himself more feature work and larger budgets to work with too. So I'm just curious which way the project will go...

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 5:17 a.m. CST

    Rick Baker

    by WONKABAR

    I remember him complaining about the puppet Lucus went with on TPM...which Lucas then "rightly" used to justify going all digital. Baker said that there had been HUGE advances in practical FX/pupetry/make-up & animatronics since Empire, and said that he could have delivered a WAY more realistic and absolutely convincing Yoda. Which led him to wonder why A) Lucas didn't call him. And B)Why more producers were turning to CG when practical was just reaching it's zenith. That was almost ten years ago and you know what? I'm starting to wonder now too. I want to see those advances fuckers! I mean, shit...it seems like it would be so much more FUN as a director, producer, actor, or crew-member to have more cool stuff on-set. A little CG to correct limitations is fine and understandable, but please, this flick and others should go for it more often IMO.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 6:13 a.m. CST

    WONKABAR

    by Ray Gamma

    Absolutely agree with you 100%. Practical FX, animatronics, latex, make-up, puppets, all of the above will ALWAYS be more appealing to the audience, even if they do sometimes look a bit rubbery. I'd rather see an alien that looks a bit rubbery that is clearly there on the set interacting with the actors, than to see an alien that is doing that horrible 'weightless' flying-about action that CGI ALWAYS has. CGI always looks like it's not there with the actors (obviously, because it's not) and that is a much worse failing than 'looking a bit rubbery'. None of the major CGI extravaganzas of recent years have done it for me. Not the Star Wars prequels, not Spiderman and his horrible cartoony-elastic CGI movements, and not even LOTR - In my humble opinion the only great bits of CGI in LOTR were the matt paintings/huge buildings such as the mountain city Minas Tirith in Return of the King. That looked utterly convincing and is what CGI is fantastic for. But when you want to create a living creature, forget it, you're asking the audience to ignore what their eyes are clearly telling them, thus cancelling out any emotional interest you might have had in the character.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Why wouldn't they just make a sequel...

    by Childe Roland

    ...or another film called theThing set obviously in the same universe with the same monster but that doesn't necessarily overwrite Carpenter's classic (like he did for the '50s version, even using footage from it to suggest what happened in that movie may have preceded his). This really doesn't make sense.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Another injustice of the remake flood

    by Sit and Watch

    There have not been many horror remakes that I have been a big fan of, but I am not completely against the idea. But my major problem with the current trend of remakes is the volume and rate og which they are coming out. It would be okay with me if almost every quality horror movie ever to get remade, but they need to be remade for the right reasons (adoration/respect of the original material and so on.) THE PROBLEM IS THAT EVERY BIG HORROR MOVIE IS GOING TO BE REMADE IN A SHORT 10-OR-SO YEAR TIME SPAN. And largely by the same creative control. And because of this wave of crap, there won't be a chance for upcoming filmmakers to touch any of these franchises for a long time. Maybe that will be a good thing and lead to a couple decades of originality. But as someone who would like to make films, it is sad to see how these franchises are getting gobbled up 5-6 flicks a year, year after year.

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Cenobite, Alien is about the most 'remade' film ever!

    by half vader

    If you consider that it's just the umpteenth remake of Agatha Christie's "Ten Little Niggers/Indians". I think the production design is so overwhelming that most people forget it's your stock standard gothic horror "Who will be murdered next?" story structure. They're just on an old creaky ship instead of in an old creaky house. Don't get me wrong though, it's one of my favourites.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Sit and Watch

    by Ray Gamma

    Quite right, they seem to be powering through them with a 'never mind the quality' attitude. I swear this whole trend was started inadvertantly by Wes Craven's Scream series.

  • Nov. 21, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST

    This Project...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...is a thousand miles from nowhere, man! Its gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better...