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Holy Smokes! A Pre-Trailer in progress of SPIDER-MAN 3 with VENOM FOOTAGE is now gone!!!

Harry here... I love this trailer. Incomplete effects, green screen stage work, storyboards... you get the idea of just how much goes into making a trailer... and at the end... VENOM - clear as day... behold and scream in glee!

It isn't often that I get calls on Sunday afternoons, but guess what? I got a whole host of calls from SONY folks asking to have this trailer removed. PERSONALLY - I think it's a GIGANTIC mistake on their part. As you can see from the response in the talk back below - this is the HUGE POSITIVE response that the trailer that they did release, didn't get. I suppose they want to hold off till later to reveal VENOM... but the fans of SPIDER-MAN and VENOM have been dying to see this footage - and it got out there. Accept it. Let it spread virally. Because Sony? Marvel? It's out. All anybody has to do is search for "Spider-Man" or "Venom" on multiple different video hosting sites. Hell - below in the talkback is a link to a really great MOV file of just the VENOM footage... and I'm willing to bet on message boards all over the net, you'll see others doing the same. Let this leak, leak. For one - it shows the amazing work that's going into this film and gives fans exactly what they want, but not too much of it. Anyway - Spider-fans... the truth is out there... go get it!

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  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Holy stamps

    by Westonian

    ....

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    I can see Venom in Micheal Bay's Eyes...

    by Flummage

    Micheal Bay: Damn you Venom!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:26 p.m. CST

    SWEET

    by dead youngling

    yeah

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Meh

    by DrTobiasFunke

    Still looks meh to me

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Awesome

    by dig_doug

    Looks good; anyone know where this trailer came from? Is this a rough version of the theatrical trailer we'll see in the near future?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:27 p.m. CST

    That should have been the trailer

    by ZakChase

    Somebody has a choice to make and made the wrong decision.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Cool

    by Pipple

    looks pretty cool... still not liking sandman killing uncle ben though.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Er ... "had a choice to make"

    by ZakChase

    I meant.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Damn...

    by Lucasblows

    ...that kicked the other trailers ass. Even incomplete.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Holy shit that was cool.

    by PwnedByStallone

    Damn you Michael Bay.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:32 p.m. CST

    My penis just grew another 18"

    by Boba Fat

    Now to watch the trailer

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST

    am i the only....

    by visitor_q

    ...person who thinks spiderman is way overrated?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Wheeeee!!!!

    by Nazzim O'Bazzim

    Ok, very nice Venom jaws at the end there. Maybe now we'll hear less whining. And anyone who actually complains about the look of the CGI in a trailer for a movie that's not finished needs to look at this trailer and go "Ohhh.. they do these things one stage at a time. Maybe, just maybe, that other trailer's effects weren't quite complete either." There's an educational component in watching unfinished trailers like this...

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Is this the trailer they showed at Comic-Con?

    by Goonie

    I think it is.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Who says Holy Smokes anymore?

    by Pipple

    Damn you Michael Bay.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST

    This will be removed in about one hour...

    by Ribbons

    So, some weather we're having, huh?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    now that ive seen him im so happy but dont want to see

    by wcoop893

    any more of him until may 4th. this is probably the unfinished trailer that they are going to premiere before ghostrider, as well as the same thing they showed at comic con. screw the other trailer im just happy ive seen a little venom

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Quite impressive

    by ipolo.

    ....

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST

    looks pretty good

    by waggy

    it's remarkable how many of those shots from the trailer were completely CG that looked pretty freakin real to me. and venom looks great. hope he's in it more than they're letting on....

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Popped my cookies

    by Veraxus

    That was fucking AWESOME. Also... if Sony asks you to remove this - please tell them to fuck themselves.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Freakin' wow

    by damagedinc

    How awesome was that? (Haters need not apply)

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    WHOA!

    by El Scorcho

    Fuck yes. Now I'm excited. That trailer on Thursday did nothing for me, but this...

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:49 p.m. CST

    FAKE!

    by Richard J. Kimble

    That was terrible.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST

    and...

    by fractureJonze

    We all just saw the last shot in the movie.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:51 p.m. CST

    That was awesome!

    by viola123

    I loved it. And I haven't even watched Spider-Man 1 or 2. But I think I want to watch this. Is that how Venom looks like? What gives him the power to change? Also, there's a shot of someone falling and Spider-Man following, at like I think 1:52, is that Gwen Stacy? Is that how he meets her? ... And is James Franco, he knows Peter is Spider-Man? Why doesn't he tell people? Anyway, great trailer. I can't wait to see the finished product. Although, why are hey coming up with another one? The other was really good. I'm not complaining!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I give it 4-8 hours

    by B0BAFETTISH

    And this baby'll be gone. But you'll still be able to see it on the SuperheroHype boards after.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Deliberate leak or not?

    by dr_buggerlugs

    All the carping about Venom not being in the trailer may have prompted Sony to put this out as a 'leak' - they'll probably withdraw it in an hour or two but it'll be enough to keep people talking until the next trailer...or indeed the completed version of this one.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Oh and

    by B0BAFETTISH

    the SIMPSONS movie trailer TONIGHT!!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Sweet

    by Leopold Scotch

    So does Venom show up after sandman is dealt with? I agree, it is so much cooler than the last trailer.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1 p.m. CST

    If this is a fake, it's a good one!

    by DerLanghaarige

    Seriously!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1 p.m. CST

    F'in SWEEEEEET

    by randalmcmurphy

    except the plot looks like it will be a convoluted mess. the sweet effects will way outshine the story, though. Who goes to Spidey for deepness? They'd better give us plenty of venom and not just make him a footnote in the end.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Geez, the FX aren't much better in the other trailer

    by Doc_Strange

    Whoever is doing the FX work for this movie needs to be replaced with ILM or Weta. And they also need to learn some physics cause the way Spidey moves just doesn't look right to the trained eye.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:12 p.m. CST

    South Park

    by Veraxus

    ...wasn't venom in the finished Spider-Man 3 trailer after last week's South Park?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:17 p.m. CST

    so...

    by Fabulous Freak

    It looks like Peter tears off the suit on the roof of the cathedral, it leaks down inside and drips onto topher's head, attaches itself to him, he looks up -Venom- Roll Credits. Thanks for blowing it for me.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Zakchase is right, this

    by The Funk

    Zakchase is right, this should have been the trailer Sony put out, not the one form last week. & by the way Sony, no-one cares about Sandman......

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:24 p.m. CST

    GOLDEN SH*T ON A STICK!

    by sillypig

    My god Spider-man 3 has just taken the lead in my all time "can't wait to see that" movie. The first one being Spider-man 1. Venom looks amazing!! I'm so glad Raimi didn't do a Brian Singer on us here. (As good as X-men was... it wasn't X-men.)

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Redemption

    by CarbonGhost

    thursday's trailer was okay ,that that was the shit, and the cg was'nt even complete

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST

    I think sony blundered last week

    by emeraldboy

    They should have not given us the trailer last week if it wasnt ready.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:28 p.m. CST

    ANT FARM

    by TheBaxter

    fuck spider-man 3, ANT FARM will be the sleeper hit of the summer!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:29 p.m. CST

    but they could have

    by emeraldboy

    been testing the water. and I suspect that is what happened. The reaction has been mixed. The third trailer will rock.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:31 p.m. CST

    funny

    by AllieJamison

    looks like a response to the "bad effects" and "no venom" talkback

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Fabulous Freak

    by sillypig

    "It looks like Peter tears off the suit on the roof of the cathedral, it leaks down inside and drips onto topher's head, attaches itself to him, he looks up -Venom- Roll Credits. Thanks for blowing it for me." The main thing is... Raimi may well know how predictable the whole thing is and he is just out to make a damn good movie. Afterall Spider-man's history is already done in the comics and we virtually know whats going to happen. All Raimi has to do is change bits here and there... So the trailer giving up major plots and structure doesn't matter... If Spider-man was laying a Spider-turd.. We'd still go and see it.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Harry Didn't Even Give Me Credit...

    by HyperKnight23

    ...For Sending Him The Clip. I sent him the trailer earlier this morning.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Should have been the trailer

    by Thoreau

    This a much better trailer than the one posted! It has more intensity and just overall pacing and coolness... also, Venom is a great tease.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Pretty much a perfect trailer!

    by tile_mcgillus

    That was amazing.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:45 p.m. CST

    That's a trailer....

    by Kevin

    That should've been the trailer. Oh boy, that HAD to be a deliberate leak.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    So I guess Raimi really doesn't like Venom....

    by Praetor

    Since he can introduce the character for 5 seconds and then bow out of the series before some shmuck turns part four into Hulk 2.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Don't think this is the Comic-Con trailer

    by resident01

    The Comic-Con one showed transformation shots of Topher, but not a final image of Venom. Also the church scene was slightly longer in the CC one, and took place in the beginning. Less Sandman as well. This is a different trailer. Cool though. I personally like the effects shown off in both trailers. To me they look better than Spidey 2, and lightyears ahead of Spidey 1.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Well, will this be released when completed?

    by viola123

    Or is this the trailer we got before it was edited down? Because, that's not right. I agree, this one is superior and hopefully, it'll be released. Might as well. What's the difference? :)

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Fabulous Freakin' dumbass

    by gomezvsrufio

    "It looks like Peter tears off the suit on the roof of the cathedral, it leaks down inside and drips onto topher's head, attaches itself to him, he looks up -Venom- Roll Credits. Thanks for blowing it for me." - You escribed that scene pretty well, EXCEPT THAT NO CREDITS ROLLED, YOU JACKASS. That's obviously not the final shot at all. And you're a complete moron if you still believe that. Did you not watch the last trailer? With Peter in his RED spidey suit surrounded/being strangled by BLACK webbing ? Obviously, the film's finale includes a battle with Venom, ass.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Of course...

    by Brendon

    ...this was on film ick hours ago. And film ick also have the comprehensive, spoilery explanation of how these scenes and images fit into the film's plot. filmick.blogspot.com

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    WOW

    by amrisharmpit

    This was great. I'm assuming this will run during the Super Bowl? Even as a work-in-progress, it was better than the trailer they just recently released.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST

    We can see Peter in the red and *spoilers?*

    by DrLektor

    He's "battle damaged" with some sort of black thread wrapped around his neck. Answer me this, does Spidey take the blows during his fight with Sandman or the Goblin? Not by the looks of these trailers because he's all in black when he fights them. The Way I see it, Peter is worshiped by the people of New York, is set to marry MJ but finds out Ben may have been murdered by Flint so he goes a bit moody. The black costume takes advantage of his weakness and takes him over, he flushes his life down the crapper by dealing with Sandy, just in time for Harry to get his kicks in. Putting the two criminals down so harshly and neglecting MJ causes Peter to rethink things and ditch the black duds, going back to the red and blue. Except Brock is taken over now. Cue the climactic battle which we've seen a few brief shots of, Venom will fight Spidey and end the movie on a devastating cliff hanger, probably the death of not one, but two major characters. Just a guess

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Venom probably has more like ten minutes of screen time

    by eg4190

    I highly doubt Brock turns into Venom in the last five minutes before the credits, because the cathedral scene wouldn't exactly make a huge climax for the movie. More likely, Peter rips off the symbiote at the end of the second act, then has to defeat Sandman and Venom in the blue-and-red costume without any of his black suit powers. Venom will probably feature in one major action scene and then be left alive for future installments. Structurally, I don't see any way to bring him in earlier without rushing the black suit storyline.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:10 p.m. CST

    That was fun, but

    by INWOsuxRED

    I wish they didn't show us anything for this movie. Its Spider-Man 3, you don't need to show anything, people are going to go see it.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Wolverine?

    by CarbonGhost

    Did I see Wolverine?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Bobby McFerrin raped my grandmother!

    by DreamIsOver

    Had to say it. That trailer is alot better than the offical one

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Damn, FLV Encoder won't convert this file...

    by JackPumpkinhead

    I wanted to see Venom in a proper video player, but I can only view this crap in FLV Player now. Anything else other than FLVE that can actually convert this to a normal video?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Another $29 million for Borat!

    by INWOsuxRED

    Congradulations to the glorious nation of Kazakhstan

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST

    SNIKT

    by sickboy_ukuk

    Did i just see wolvies claws in that?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    It's pretty clear that Venom

    by Negator76

    It's pretty clear that Venom and Spidey fight at the end. Spidey is shown in his red and blues, surrounded by black webbing. Duh. Also, he never fights Sandman and Harry together. He fights Harry halfway through the movie, and later enlists Harry to help him put down Sandman and Venom. Just remember, I toldja so.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 2:53 p.m. CST

    By the way...

    by JackPumpkinhead

    ...Venom dies in this one. :) Which doesn't mean the producers won't demand his return in the new parts; they obviously know Venom is the only reason why anyone is remotely interested in *this* movie at all.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:02 p.m. CST

    This is a better trailer...

    by Deadwood Dan

    ...although, if you're in the business of getting families to come, you don't want to hint at how frightening it (ie Venom) will be. I only ever enjoyed the movies in the theater. Their continued enjoyment on DVD is negligible. But I would still see this flick no matter what - it's got Venom!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST

    this is NOT the Comic-Con trailer, but it's similar.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    The Comic-Con trailer started out with Topher asking that Parker be killed. Then it was more of a mature, slow-burn, trailer. And then, of course, it led into the Bell Tower scene with Peter trying to take the suit off, the suit dripping down onto Brock, and him falling down, becoming Venom, and the whole "flying into the mouth" shot.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Venom

    by DOGSOUP

    Sweet. Thats it.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST

    oh shit!

    by hesh monster

    That was soooo coool. I may just have wet myself. Venom looks so bad ass even the "haters" will have to admit that they nailed his design. Also someone, I would do it but dont have video editing software, should take the complete scenes from the official trailer that we see in this one and splice together a more complete trailer. Go sam you the man!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Venom fights Spider-man at the end of this movie

    by AlwaysThere

    It occurs during the construction zone fight. Venom's webbing can be clearly seen in the OFFICIAL trailer that came out on Thursday.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:13 p.m. CST

    "Please kill Peter Parker." Awesome

    by Darth Bauer

    "And please kill Red if he calls me a dumb ass ever again."

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Somebody at The Ant Farm is getting fired.

    by dimnix

    But a big THANK YOU! to whoever the soon-to-be-unemployed fella is who leaked this. Venom looks perfect. And this is overall a better trailer, possibly the one that will be attached to Ghost Rider?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST

    hyperknight

    by HEADGEEK

    you were the 5th to email me it. The first person was somone that asked to not be credited.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Those people who ask to not be credited

    by DOGSOUP

    are the real heroes. They just love the stuff not looking for credit cookies to choke on.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Venom In Quicktime!

    by spidermanfreak20

    Here is just the venom clip in glorious quicktime http://www.tg3h.com/episodes/Venomclipsound.mov

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I am a huge fan of the Spider-Man movies

    by CoursinLarry

    And I have liked all of the trailers for them so far. But the weakest one has to be the one that is going on Casino Royale. This trailer, however, is one of the best. If Sony likes money, they should have finished this one up in time for Casino Royale.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Holy crap that rocked!

    by Bean_

    THAT'S the trailer I wanted to see!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Holy shit!!!!!!

    by DarthJedi

    Why oh why didn't they use THAT one for the actual trailer? Even with the unfinished FX, that one gave me shivers. The real one was ok and showed some cool stuff, but this one just out and out rocked! Come on May 4th!!!!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:13 p.m. CST

    sweet baby jesus....

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    THAT was FUCKING AWESOME!!! damn, Sony fucked up big by not showing that on thursday. this trailer makes this feel EPIC. thursdays actually was kinda "meh"-ish. maybe theyll finish it for the 2nd official trailer. awesome shit

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:18 p.m. CST

    OH MY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Darth Thoth

    Now THAT should have been the trailer, incomplete FX and all. I don't care. That was HOT!!! Now, it is officially on!!!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Wowaweewa

    by Neo Technic

    A very nice. In my country we toast fermented horse urine to shots like that. "In my country there is problem, and that problem is the Parker... Throw the Peter down the well, so Venom can be free... and we have big party." Very nice.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Now the only question is...

    by Shermdawg

    Does Tobey say "We are Venom"?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:36 p.m. CST

    The preview itself kinda sucked...

    by Ribbons

    Of course it had the money shot at the end, but I'm glad Sony went with the other one. "All will be lost... unless he confronts the past... and faces the darkness within." In a world where your mommy kills animals...

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 4:48 p.m. CST

    WTF? I just Googled Venom and...

    by Shermdawg

    Scorpion is Venom in 616 nowadays??? WTF???<br><br>God, I'm kinda glad I ditched comics after Age of Apocalypse.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:11 p.m. CST

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=586675739657699

    by ajtk210

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5866757396576992173&q=spiderman+3+trailer&hl=en

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:16 p.m. CST

    does anyone get the feeling

    by slappy jones

    that maybe they don't want to advertise venom too much because he only appears right at the end of the film as cliffhanger ending for the next film??? because that is what I am starting to think...sandman is obviously the main villain - venom is all set up for spider-man 4

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Somebody post this up somewhere!

    by Red Diver

    Anyone got the full trailer mirror anywhere? That shot of Venom looked awesome, should have been in the one Thursday.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Oh, they'll let it leak

    by chrth

    They just don't want AICN to benefit from it.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:19 p.m. CST

    The links in here are all defunct now

    by Smashing

    Anyone got another please?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:33 p.m. CST

    V Very Clever

    by spidermanfreak20

    To See Venom he he

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:35 p.m. CST

    *ahem*

    by tibbar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5l9fEBs4m8

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    sweet ass!!

    by El Borak

    venom rules.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Last weekend was an huge error

    by emeraldboy

    That Sony will live to regret. If the trailer wasnt read than they shouldd nor have released. The reaction was mixed anyhow. those who liked it liked it. those who didnt didnt. The third one will be the definitive trailer and by then they should have all the problems fixed. but I seem to remember, that with the last two movies they did release test footage. to give us a flavour of what the wall crawling scenes were going to be like. and so on.....

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    THE YOUTUBE VIDEO IS STILL AVAILABLE!!!

    by tbdeinc

    Here is the link directly: http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=A5l9fEBs4m8&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//sjl-static3.sjl.youtube.com/vi/A5l9fEBs4m8/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKDE5L_xKR-Dn0L6t0P--ux

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    THE YOUTUBE VIDEO IS STILL AVAILABLE!!!

    by tbdeinc

    Here is the TINYURL: http://tinyurl.com/ycdvbc

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:02 p.m. CST

    well...

    by tibbar

    i was trying to be hush-hush about it, as to not get it removed from you tube too soon.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Here it is on another site

    by mpfanatic

    This is the same end that they showed at Comic Con. I was there so I can confirm that http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/9504899.html

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    There's no white spider on Venom

    by Monkey Butler

    OK, that's fucking IT!!! Raimi has fucked up just one time too many. It's like that in the comic, so it should be like that in the movie. Fuck you Raimi, you've just ruined this entire fucking movie for me. This was my most anticipated film of next year, but because Raimi fucked up Venom's look I'm not even going to bother. Fuck your revisionist bullshit Raimi. Yeah and that means organic webshooters too. Whoever heard of a guy being bitten by a genetically engineered Spider and being able to shoot webbing. WTF? Clearly, this is all sarcasm on my part. The clip looks rad.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST

    People who like Venom....

    by MattCG

    ....fuck small animals. True fact.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:15 p.m. CST

    does anybody have a link...

    by abiggerboat

    that actually works?!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:29 p.m. CST

    A quick and crude animated gif of Venom I made...

    by Orionsangels

    For those that didn't see it and Sony if ya take it down. I'm just putting it up again. You can't stop the Internet Dwellers. Spread the word my people! http://tinyurl.com/y6p6hp

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Freaking awsome..I am impressed

    by Vansmack13

    It still works as of 7:30 pm. I wonder if SONY is afraid of scaring the parents off from bringing there young kids. I am pleasently suprised how fierce and true to the comic he looks..dam fine job.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    In a previous Spider-man trailer talkback...

    by Orionsangels

    You'll see I predicted the Venom into the mouth shot. Crazy. It could still be the end of the movie. So don't get too excited.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:32 p.m. CST

    "make it rare and seemingly

    by AllieJamison

    "make it rare and seemingly unattainable" may be a great marketing coup. but who cares as long as this is just great.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Thanks Orionsangels

    by MontyPigeon

    For putting up the link again.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:37 p.m. CST

    we've been discussing the head proportions in the zone

    by bebop_chick

    Personally, I think it looks representative of the comics, but others disagree. Regardless, here are some screen shots: http://zone.aintitcool.com/viewtopic.php?p=300821#300821

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:40 p.m. CST

    let's try that again

    by bebop_chick

    better link, hopefully: http://tinyurl.com/y5ou8c

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:42 p.m. CST

    BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    C'mon, Sony! let these poor kids have a taste of what you fucked them from seeing on thursday...mean old bastards. dont they realize that Venom is the main draw and that most of us think that Sandman is a 3rd stringer Spidey villain? classic?...some might say he is but i say a guy made of sand is less believable than a guy with a symbiote, alien or synthetic

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:43 p.m. CST

    To everyone who thinks Venom will only

    by ajtk210

    Be in the last shot. You're stupid. You ignore evidence. Spiderman in his red and blues being choked by a BLACK WEBBING. MJ in a DUMPTRUCK in a GIANT BLACK WEBBING. The last fight is supposed to be in a construction site. No to mention the comic-con panel where Dunst basically confirmed that Venom would kidnap her and Topher talked about what a bitch it was putting the VENOM costume on during filming. Rami stating that he liked the direction they were taking Venom. After confirming that Venom would be a villian in THIS MOVIE.(this isnt some super-secret plot to suprise us all) He's not going to announce Venom only to show him in the last shot, don't be douchebags. Basically my point in this: There is VERY VERY VERY VERY STRONG EVIDENCE POINTING TO THE FACT THAT VENOM WILL ACTUALLY BE A VILLIAN IN THIE MOVIE AND NOT JUST MAKE A CAMEO. And there is NO EVIDENCE TO POINT OTHERWISE. Basically STOP IGNORGING FUCKING EVIDENCE AND COMING UP WITH RETARDED HALF-ASSED THEORIES. VENOM WILL BE IN SPIDERMAN 3. HE WILL HAVE A PART. HE WILL FIGHT SPIDERMAN. HE WILL NOT BE A 1 SHOT CAMEO. DAMN IT PEOPLE. PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION. TONS OF PEOPLE HAVE POSTED THESE FACTS YET THE VERY NEXT POST WILL BE SOME FUCKTARD TALKING ABOUT VENOM BEING IN THE MOVIE FOR 30 SECONDS.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:49 p.m. CST

    We mean Venom in his body form ajtk210!

    by Orionsangels

    Who cares about some black gook or tar runnin around town or latching on to spiderman. We want venom in his monster form.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Another link

    by Orionsangels

    http://tinyurl.com/yc6c7a

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Rant Breath-

    by RenoNevada2000

    The organic webshooters are a holdover from Cameron's scriptment. You can't hold Raimi totally responsible for that... unless you're an unhinged lunatic with little to no grasp of reality.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Higher quality downloadable version here:

    by michaelberliner

    http://tinyurl.com/v55gn

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Venom and Mary Jane

    by antonphd

    Yeah, no doubts that they didn't want to show that bit of Peter pushing Mary Jane down and the scary Venom to parents on TV.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by Smashing

    Now that was cool, sounds like a very angry animal, I snapped a screen grab and downloaded it to my phone, I am much more excited by this trailer, cant wait, but have to. Thanks for extra links.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:18 p.m. CST

    I don't know if that was ever meant to be seen by more

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    than the Comic-Con crowd... It's clear that his birth won't look exactly like that, with the shot going into his mouth and all. I dunno, I guess we'll see from here.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:18 p.m. CST

    ajtk210

    by Shermdawg

    For the love of god, calm down. You don't need to keep reminding us. Just face it, some people would rather come up with bullshit predictions, than give in and read the spoilers.<br><br>Just take a deep breath and let it go. It's not worth getting all bent out of shape about it.<br><br>btw, Venom will only be in the film for 30secs. ;)

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:26 p.m. CST

    WELL

    by THE KNIGHT

    Sony fucked themselves in the ass by not releasing that trailer... wow.. wow... wow....

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Here Ye Here Ye Get Yer Quicktime Here!

    by spidermanfreak20

    I'd suggest saving the file the moment it's done and maybe re uploading if you get the chance. I'm sure the bandwidth will be exceeded. So for those fortunate enough save and resubmit to Youtube,Vsocial,Vimeo,or Google Video Under S3LEAK Here is the link http://www.tg3h.com/episodes/s3leak.mov

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Keep in mind

    by spidermanfreak20

    s 3leak...there is a space between just unspace it duh! same goes for the Venom clip.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Sigh, we're worried Venom gets Darth Maul treatment

    by Drath

    What about THAT doesn't make sense? Yes, most of us see the black webbing, most of us read that Venom would be in the last act/fight of the movie and then be killed off too. We'd actually prefer if he wasn't used if that's all we'd get from him. Not only is Venom potentially underused, but so too are Sandman and Harry as the Green Goblin if they are just partial players in the movie. This is a very real possibility, and hence the tendency to hope for more. If Venom is in the last ten minutes AND set up for the next movie, then great. I'm betting we'll hear a lot of backlashing about how people don't want another symbiote-centered movie after this one though, so we may just neve get the Predator style tension that could come from Venom in a whole movie.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Fantastic!

    by jegoing74

    See Michael Bay! You can be true to the characters while they look bleeping awsome on screen!

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:49 p.m. CST

    SONY, NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SANDMAN

    by Pipple

    VENOM IS WHAT'S GOING TO SELL MORE TICKETS.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Looks like the Host pulled them

    by spidermanfreak20

    Check back on this topic for other links.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:53 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with Venom?

    by Ribbons

    I really don't get purists sometimes. Conceptually speaking, is he really any lamer of a villain than, say, Kraven the Hunter? Kraven was never as overexposed, of course, but still...

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Kai_Mah'gra?

    by MattCG

    Venom sucks, dude. Accept it and move on.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Dear GOD

    by clockpolitiks

    So is this going to be the final trailer? Jesus, it gave me goosebumps. Fucking awesome.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:06 p.m. CST

    MattCG

    by Neo Technic

    People who don't like venom get fucked by large, hairy, male animals in the ass and mouth. Then they ask for seconds. True fact.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Hear, hear ajtk210 - I agree completely - and add this

    by Spacejockey426

    Most everyone is saying he will be relegated to an end of the film cameo, but I say what the fuck do any of you know? I say he has more screen time than any of those motherfucking naysayers have said. Remember - Raimi knows the character of Spider-Man, and has two well-done feature films under his directorial belt. He also has an uncharacteristic genuine affection for the fans. I am positive he knows they want to see Venom fully realized on the screen, post haste. I do not beleive, even on that basis alone, that he will mother fuck us with a 5 minute armored Vader Sith deal.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Rant Breath

    by Ribbons

    And when you say "uninspired," you mean...?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Neo Technic?

    by MattCG

    It's late. I'm sure your sister is asleep and that precious window of REM sleep where you can slip your teeny pecker into her without waking her is closing every second. Go do that and remember: Venom is the most overrated, piece of shit character in comic history. Except for Spawn. It's hard to outsuck the master. But, I'm sure your sister's nipples will argue that.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:41 p.m. CST

    I'm loving this Venom sucks/rocks debate...

    by Ribbons

    Pretty soon you guys are gonna run out of animals to accuse one another of having sex with...

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Well, none of the links work...

    by Zeke25:17

    ...and the YouTube one has been stuck on "loading" for about ten minutes now...so I'm just gonna figger that it looked way cool. Venom wasn't around when I read Spidey regularly; but I've always liked the look of the character when I've glimpsed him: looks like a damn fine character to me! I do hope he's given more of a screen life than Darth Maul was...oh, and why is everyone invoking Michael Bay's name in this talkback?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Venom would NOT be predator-style tension.

    by W3bzpinn3r

    There is nothing sneaky or stealthy about Venom. He is in-you-face ferocity. Sure, he can camoflage the suit once in a while, to add an extra panel or two to a comic, but every issue with Venom follows the same formula:<p> <p> Venom gets loose<p> Venom taunts Peter or his loved ones <p> Venom beats the tar out of Spidey <p> Spidey uses wits/friends to beat Venom<p> <p> Venom is one of the most unique villains. He is the first villain in comics to exist SOLELY to kill the hero. Most villains have a fiendish plot <tm> that the hero just happens to show up and ruin, whereas with Venom, his whole reason for existance is killing Spidey. That's what makes Venom unique. Until they butchered him in the late 90's, he was easily Spidey's most fearsome foe.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST

    *cough*

    by tibbar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5l9fEBs4m8

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 8:59 p.m. CST

    GET IT HERE!!!

    by Stone316

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00-d0nirwGw&mode=related&search= The Spider trailer with unfinished footage and Venom

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Working YouTube Link.... For Now

    by DarthDooku

    The links above don't seem to be working, check this out- http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=00-d0nirwGw Very quick glance of Venom, but looks interesting.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I can still see it...

    by Stone316

    ...I just cant ad it to the favorites list.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I can still see it...

    by Stone316

    ...I just cant add it to the favorites list.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST

    how links work....

    by tibbar

    you have to remove the space from the link, people... duh

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Stone316. thank you!

    by Zeke25:17

    Unfinished footage or not, that was great...would it have killed Sony to include that one-second shot of Venom at the end?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    I hate to say it

    by leavittj1982

    But that's a just-pre-credits shot if I ever saw one. What that does mean, however, is that this will be like the second LOTR movie, where EVERYTHING looks damned. I didn't want to, but now I almost totally buy Venom not being in the movie. On the plus side, I was able to pause it at the very end. For the fraction of a second that he's in there, Venom looks like just about everything we'd ever hoped for. Hahaha, I remember a few weeks ago when I thought he wouldn't have a jaw.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    ahhh The Ant Farm...

    by Obscura

    same people who did those great LOTR and kong trailers for jackson. They really do know their trailers. sony obviously dont. thursdays trailer was so badly edited even my girlfriend noticed how bad it was.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    4 second Venom clip on YOUTUBE looks...

    by uberman

    Simply fantastic. I also thought the Spidy III trailor looks great. Always enjoyed the Spidy flicks, but was/am dissapointed with his ability to stop friggin TRAINS-for god sakes, hes not the Hulk! At least, the spidy I grew up on was not-he was agile and strong but not 'stop a train' strong like in II and he was also kinda fragil so he had to be whip smart and fast, not brute strong like some of the stuff Raimi has attributed to him. Minor quips though. I still liked em all. Hope Raimi gets back into EVIL DEAD type of directing and camera work. Venom surely calls for that old manic energy his early films displayed-just on the edge of being out of control.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:47 p.m. CST

    hoping they don't overdo #3

    by kname2

    venom was a good idea in the comics initially and then they ruined him...for this film they are going to have to throw away his entire comics origin...secret wars anyone?...why bother calling him venom? this is strictly a move to appease fanboys of the venom era...i'll wait to see the film before passing judgement, but i have a bad feeling about this one...3 villians?, upturning ben parker's death from the comics and films?, the gwen/mj mess? smells like batman and robin so far...i hope they don't ruin this one with too many storylines/characters

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Dear Sony,

    by Christopher3

    What the hell is going on over there? Exploding laptop batteries, rootkits, delayed PS3 launches, and pricefixing... now this. Come on.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:52 p.m. CST

    BTW

    by leavittj1982

    The organic webshooters were the single greatest improvement upon Spider-Man since he first appeared. I mean, the comic's spiderman can't even spin a web, a spider's most popular attribute. But yeah, they should blow up a still from that last shot of Venom and make it into a poster, because it's the only shot of Venom I think we're going to see in this movie.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Wow.

    by Spuncho

    I honestly hope Venom appears at the end as a setup for a film entirely devoted to Venom as the villain. I'd rather not split my attention between Harry/Green Goblin, Sandman, and Venom. If Spidey kicks Sandman's ass using the black suit, and we get a Venom cliffhanger at the end, that's fine with me. I think the black webbing coming out of Peter's head and MJ being caught in black webbing are both part of a symbiote-induced dream sequence.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 9:58 p.m. CST

    You guys really ought to know...

    by Ribbons

    ...that Venom is going to fight Spider-Man in this movie. Did you not see Mary Jane stuck in black webbing in the preview? It's cool to get jazzed about future films (even if a hypothetical 'Spider-Man 4' is about 4 years away...), but you should know that Venom is not introduced solely as a lead-in to a sequel so that you're not pissed at Raimi come May.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Ribbons is right...

    by kname2

    i think this venom will be a one off to quieten the venom-fanboys...raimi is an old school spidey fan...i don't think he'll spend any more time than he has to with venom...at least i hope so...venom's history will have to be altered totally from the comics...there is no way to do the secret wars to venom storyline...if i were a venom fan i'd leave him on the written page...there is too much to lose in the translation to film

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 10:26 p.m. CST

    ben's death

    by El Borak

    everyone keeps bitching about spidey's uncle being killed by the sandman. they only SAY it in the trailer. that doesn't mean it's true.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 10:39 p.m. CST

    on the subject of non-organic web shooters

    by smackfu

    You know, it really is grossly unrealistic and just plain ridiculous in concept that a kid who gets bit by a spider and gets spider powers co-incidentally in the span of a couple of days is able to develop some kind of webbing-like space age polymer. ESPECIALLY when it's completely reasonable that the radioactive spiderbite gave him the webbing ability. I mean we're already taking it on faith that a spiderbite can somehow give someone all these other features of a spider, why not this one?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Where can I find it?

    by valetparkingguy

    Some of those links it's already down. Help?

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Why so angry MattCG?

    by Neo Technic

    Getting tired of eating Ox cum every week? Or is that Rhinocerous dick up your ass starting to hurt..... Wow, I feel like I'm in 7th grade again. Just know, at the end of the day, I get a Spiderman movie with Venom. So you lose. Thats the important thing. You lose bear bate.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:04 p.m. CST

    I said it before

    by arrangedletters

    You can go back and look but I have always said Venom will be at the very end and setup for the next flick. As for MJ in the web that's the love web from the preview.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:09 p.m. CST

    wow..

    by decfx

    not one fucking link worked.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    No its not the fucking love web retard.

    by ajtk210

    Watch the other trailer, the one from a few days ago. She's in a fucking BLACK webbing while in a fucking DUMP TRUCK. I swear the fucking level of fucktardedness with these thick-headed talkbackers is reaching extreme heights.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:31 p.m. CST

    ajtk

    by arrangedletters

    another jackass to kill? She's not rapped by it as you can see her holding it you fucktacular fuckityfuck fuckwad.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:31 p.m. CST

    ajtk

    by arrangedletters

    another jackass to kill? She's not trapped by it as you can see her holding it you fucktacular fuckityfuck fuckwad.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    ajtk210.. again .. take your meds...

    by Freefinger

    Geezuss.. this guy reaaaallly like shouting at peopel and telling them how stupid they are... Must be a Rent-a-cop who hasn't had sex in a while... Geeezuss... Why do they continue to kill all the villains in these fu**ing Spiderman movies? If they continue this Spidey will be fighting the freaking "Postal-Worker-Guy"! Hope they don't kill the Sandman, or Venom in this one. Make them get sent to the Vault for crying out loud... Image this... Last shot of the movie, we see a cell with Venom freaking out while being sedated, pan out, we go backwards thru the steel door, we see other cells, we see something that resembles a lighting bolt hitting the side of a 6inch sealed window the walls are darken by bolts being shot at them, in front of this cell we see the Sandman crouched down leaning fowards on the window, paning out still, and they could show a couple of other villains (except Doc Oc since, yes, they killed him too!)... This could be great and even if didn't see them be created, at least we would know that they're alive and ready to be leached out for one of the next movie, all this without the need to show how all of them were created all the time, a simple "dream sequence" could do this and save up 25 minutes of film. I just hope they stop killing all of them..

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST

    http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/words-103

    by LittleDudes

    Venom glimpse. Remove the spaces. http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/words-103 freakin' sweet! http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/words-103

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:42 p.m. CST

    ajtk210...

    by Freefinger

    If you think these are such retard talkbacks, how 'bout you stop coming to these and shit on everyone 'cause you think you know it all and go tape "The View" and wack off to them talking 'bout your kind of topic. People will miss things in a clip, if you feel the need to point out anything, keep your anger down and point it out, dont need to tell them to go Fuck themselves, hell at least they have a fuck, and no you can't count the hamster stuck up your ass a fuck for you.

  • Nov. 12, 2006, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Better look at Venom...

    by Nigel7

    Made this eariler this afternoon. Enjoy. http://tinyurl.com/yljt9y

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:09 a.m. CST

    The Knights Who Say, "Nigel!"

    by Zeke25:17

    ...are applauding you for your fine work on the Venom clip! I keep wanting to say, "Nice doggy...NIIICE doggy..."

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:20 a.m. CST

    I'm guessing English isn't Freefinger's first language

    by kintar0

    And he's a little sensitive. JDanielP, is that you? Is this me?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Venom Images

    by LittleDudes

    http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ XXXXX http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/images/misc/101.jpg XXXXX http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/images/misc/102.jpg XXXXX REMOVE THE SPACES

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:38 a.m. CST

    waa waa wi waa

    by miyokoboom

    Venom crouchin like a friggen tiger....awesome!!! its still on youtube if you're lookin!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Youtube is the hip place to be, kids.

    by TallBoy66

    Such as this little thing I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hnNQ2YsHr4 If Harry leaked this on his own, seriously, that's the coolest thing this site has done in years.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:56 a.m. CST

    nice

    by slkboxrman

    i personally believe that either ....a)venom appears for a split second as a lead in to spider man 4 or b)venom appears, starts wreaking havoc and killing people and the movie will end on a huge cliffhanger and will make us all scream at the screen ..nooooooo as for dead villains , who said harry and sandman get killed ?? who even said that doc ock is dead, i bet there are some of u out there that believe as me and some of my friends that he is not dead...any thoughts ?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:57 a.m. CST

    It's still up at CINEMATICAL.COM! I just saw it!

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Check it out! I'm serious!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 2:25 a.m. CST

    slkboxrman (SPOILERS)

    by Ribbons

    Well, I already put down my thoughts on the whole Venom thing. I think I know what happens at the end but I won't spoil it, except to say that I suspect Venom's reign of terror will be limited to this film. *** Sandman... mmmmmight get killed. I'm basing this on nothing but the trailer, but the way it looked like the water was washing him away and he was reaching out for help... maybe Peter accidentally gets him killed due to his symbiote-induced rage, which is what finally motivates him to get rid of the thing. Maybe not though. It looks like he gets pushy with MJ and puts Harry in the hospital, which are both equally good reasons for wanting to shed the symbiote. *** As for Doc Ock, I'd say he's as dead as they come. What would the point of him being alive be anyway? It's not like he's "evil;" he's not gonna be joining the Sinister Six anytime soon. Otherwise you'd have to do some seeerious retconning.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Flaming Organic Webspooging Nipples on Optimus

    by MaulRat

    = The word "fucktard"..... what the hell does that word MEAN anyway?. I..... dont get it... I get what its supposed to mean, from what I can gather its supposedly a "clever" melding of FUCK (or fucking) and reTARD.. but what does it actually mean? Are we going to look it up in a Merriam Webster one day and see "Fucktard" (say Fuh-k-tah-rd) function: Verb .. Etymology:circa 2004 cracker slang.... Meaning: damn you Michael Bay.... Brother. Oh yeah and Venom looks cool... umm.... can't wait for the real relase of the 3rd trailer.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:29 a.m. CST

    That Rocked

    by Phategod1

    that was probably the post release trailer you wont see that till May.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:41 a.m. CST

    oh really?

    by tibbar

    no shit he fights venom

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 5:19 a.m. CST

    (High-Quality) Venom Footage at YouTube

    by Ribbons

    Here's the link (make sure to eliminate gaps in the URL if there are any): ***** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-RDIhq5_t0 *****

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Could someone torrent the spidermanfreak20 mov file?:)

    by michaelberliner

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by CatVutt

    It's entirely possible it's mainly because of how ridiculously little sleep I've had, but I found that to be fucking hilarious. Thanks.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 5:47 a.m. CST

    You're welcome!

    by Ribbons

    Glad to see I'm not the only Spidr-Mna fan...

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 5:59 a.m. CST

    i heard a rumor...

    by tibbar

    that spider-man is gonna be in this movie, can anyone confirm that shit?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 6:17 a.m. CST

    That shot of Venom...

    by knightrider

    ...is blatantly the final shot of the movie -- the Money Shot that Venom will be back for the next installment. And I don't have a problem with that, it looks fucking brilliant!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Fucktard FAO Maulrat

    by DrSurvey

    "Your a fucking retard" = "Fucktard"

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 6:55 a.m. CST

    smackfu and other retards

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    dude, you know nothing of the conception of peter's web shooters...he didnt SUDDENLY come up with a web like substance AFTER he was bitten. Peter had been working on an industrial adhesive for a science fair project. he managed to make a super-strong, yet light and flexible glue but he could never get it to last longer than an hour before it disintigtated. he later adapted it for web-shooters. <P> now as for this being the last shot...ur all retarded...is it a fear? maybe but i watched it again and i think the flash that comes up after he lunges at the camera a cover for whats a disolve or transition, much like in SM1 and 2 where the camera sooms into peters chest emblem and the scene changes...garantee you all...venom lunges into camera and it cuts to a night shot.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Venom sells more tickets than Sandman?

    by ByTor

    One of the problems with spending too much time on a geek site like this is that geeks get an inflated sense of their own importance. Look, take the circulation of Amazing Spider-Man. Triple it to cover the occasional in-and-out fans. Now drop all of them into an incinerator. If you do this...the opening box office for Spider-Man 3 won't be affected in any material way. The general public neither knows nor cares what Venom is. Get over yourselves.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Dunst

    by NachoNegro

    Without Dunst this franchise is nothing. Hence there will be no Spiderman 4. Her Wet T Shirt scene in the first film brought in 70% of the DVD sales on it's own.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:31 a.m. CST

    I agree

    by arghhhhhhhh

    I agree with this guy above me. Now A night in the museum, there's one thats pregnant with potensial

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:32 a.m. CST

    potential

    by arghhhhhhhh

    potential

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:33 a.m. CST

    The real trailer was good...

    by abominate

    ...this one is way better, even with the FX not done. Hey, has anyone else noticed in the real trailer at the end when they show the "3" there's a face in the lower right hand corner of the number. I swear I'm NOT kidding. Go look.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Stop this "Venom cliffhanger" nonsense

    by friedgold

    As much as I hate to side with the repeatedly offensive poster, Venom will not appear solely as a final shot tease for Spider-Man 4. Deal. He'll only be in it for a final showdown, but he, or 'they', are not a cliffhanger. You do not make an official villain announcement, talk about him at Comic-Con, talk about the costume and make-up, all for a 10 second appearance at the end of the film. It would be like Warners announcing the inclusion of The Joker in Batman Begins. So please, please stop all this "set-up for Spider-man 4" rubbish. And yes, the fan-boys are now happy, but I would have prefered the drip-feed of coolness that Sony were obviously planning, rather than get all this stuff in one go 6 MONTHS BEFORE THE RELEASE. But I have no will-power, so 'Hi Venom, nice to meet you. You look great'

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:03 a.m. CST

    This is the real link

    by BizarroJerry

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5l9fEBs4m8 The last youtube link was actually some other variation that maybe faked Venom at the end?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:08 a.m. CST

    I dunno, friedgold

    by BizarroJerry

    Maybe you're right, but I would think if Venom played a significant role in the movie, they would not leave him out of the trailer. Even if his appearance is intended as a surprise in the film, the folks marketing movies and making trailers are perfectly willing to allow a plot surprise to appear in the trailer. Keeping Venom out of it would be a bad idea if his inclusion in the film was something fans would be jazzed about. I guess we'll find out in six months. Dammit! Six months? Damn early trailers.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Venom is Garbage--where's MODOK?

    by Ricky Henderson

    He would be a better villan. Or maybe Fing Fang Foom.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:11 a.m. CST

    I've had an overnight change-of-heart

    by leavittj1982

    I would rather have Venom be the villain in the hypoethical fourth movie than be the fifteen-minute dead-man-walking villian in this one. He doesn't deserve to be killed-off in a single fight. An observation: Peter Parker has super powers without violent intentions; Eddie Brock is a weak man with violent intentions. And the Venom reacts differently to both. Another observation: It seems that -- in the movie, anyway -- the Venom not only acts as a costume covering and concealing Brock, but the two actually blend into a single creature, as seen by Venom's now having not only a mouth, but a throat where Brock's head used to be. I'm not very familiar with the way that that works in the comics. Can he still transform back into Brock?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Cock-tease Last Shot/Open Endings

    by knightrider

    I don't care if Venom is involved in the climactic show-down, which has apparently already been established... I just think that shot of Venom has "The End" written all over it. And you know what? That's fine. It doesn't make me or the other talkbackers here "retards" or "fucktards" -- It'd be a great way to end the movie, leaving everyone with two-to-three years to speculate about the next part. It kinda makes me think of the ending to Batman Returns, where the supposedly dead Catwoman reared her lovely head... a cool, upbeat, open ending.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST

    GLORIOUS SIMPLY GLORIOUS

    by BilboRing

    I pray that we see this scene at the very end of the movie. Sandman and GG2 are more than enough for Spidey 3. Sandman looks so fricking amazing. GG2....not so much. But I have complete faith in Raimi to make another stellar movie. GG1 costume was not that great but the overall movie just rocked the world. Have faith people. I love the old villains too but Pre-Larson Venom was one of the best ever. Anyone have a time machine? I want to see this movie tonight. Spidey 4 with all focus on Venom and his torturing ways would be orgasmic. What a great ending to Spidey 3. Parker rips off the symbiote with the help of church bells and the costume finds praying Brock. Just like the comic. ORGASMIC!!!!!!!!!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST

    knightrider

    by Ribbons

    Done right, it would be a great way to end the movie. I hope you don't think I'm trying to insult you, I'm just saying that, in this case, though it may have "The End" written all over it, it's not at the end.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9 a.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by knightrider

    No problems :)

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Looks

    by godzillasushi

    fantastic.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST

    I would love to have seen the Lizard

    by SithMenace

    Venom will be a ferocious villain for sure, but I would love to see the Lizard onscreen. I thought after the setup in Spidey 2 that's where this one was going, but it's not. I would like to see Rhino as well, and Raimi's version of Kraven, who I always thought was an underrated character. The Rhino in particular has great onscreen potential, and it would showcase Spidey's talent for outsmarting villains that are stronger than him.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Venom raped my grandmother

    by zacdilone

    So I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't mention him again.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I hope Venom is featured in this one...

    by ZeroCorpse

    Because I want to get the damn stupid "evil Spider-Man" plot over with so the younger fans will finally shut the fuck up and let us older fans who have been reading Spider-Man since the 70s (or even 60s) can have the REAL villains, instead of this lame-ass ALIENS clone. EVERYTHING having to do with that symbiote, from the end of the Secret Wars to all the Venom-kin, is poor writing that caters to the lowest common denominator. Evil Twin Villain formula: Change the good guy's look to black, give the guy freakish features, and make him have some mental problem (multiple personalities is usually the case) and then make him an exact match for the hero, right down to individual powers. Add in some murder and mayhem, and fanboys suck it up. If you like this, you must love the "evil" Superman in Superman III. [p] Venom is lame. He's always been lame. I can't wait for Raimi to get this abortion of a character out of Sony's system, so he can concentrate on villains that don't suck.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST

    ajtk = kintar0 ?

    by Freefinger

    YEah that's it, I guess I am sensitive... To the fact that you can't even come back on the site with your previous name... Mouahahahahahaha!! Check out everyone who replied to fuckface ajtk, we all think you're a fucktard, and then suddenly kintar0 opens up to him, mouahahahahaahahahahah guess you'll be alone playing with your imaginary friends again, or Hamsters if you prefer! mouahahahahahaah!!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST

    If this series continued long enough

    by BizarroJerry

    having the Lizard/Connors appear all ready as Peter's professor would be a nice way to actually establish he knows Pete beforehand, instead of dropping in a "mentor" character we hadn't seen until then. Of course, it was most likely just a nod to the fans.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Ribbons...

    by Freefinger

    ... Great video.. I love the Sandman sequence! Simply amazing, I truly believe that it was him in actual disguise, the cg effect are getting better by the day! Great work! Hell you should do the next Superman movie!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Im a fucktard?

    by ajtk210

    Im more then aware that people will miss things in the trailer. But ALOT of people have pointed these things out. Yet people are still at this moment posting the same dumb shit and ignoring these things people like me and half of the talkbackers are posting as proof.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Im a fucktard?

    by ajtk210

    Im more then aware that people will miss things in the trailer. But ALOT of people have pointed these things out. Yet people are still at this moment posting the same dumb shit and ignoring these things people like me and half of the talkbackers are posting as proof.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:24 a.m. CST

    And No Im not kintar0

    by ajtk210

    Im not. Im 19 years old. Im not a fat nerdy fuck. I have a girlfriend. I'm just not a dumbass, I can pay attention to things and not make dumbass half-assed theories.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:24 a.m. CST

    And No Im not kintar0

    by ajtk210

    Im not. Im 19 years old. Im not a fat nerdy fuck. I have a girlfriend. I'm just not a dumbass, I can pay attention to things and not make dumbass half-assed theories.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:24 a.m. CST

    We all know the plot, so who cares?

    by Ricky Henderson

    Stop your whining. I really don't care about this movie much anymore since I know now the entire storyline for this flick.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Nice back to back double posts

    by Ricky Henderson

    Thats a new trick ajtk. Strong work.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:29 a.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse

    by BilboRing

    I am not a younger reader (32) and I loved the original Venom before he became all retarded looking and "Eat your brains" stupid. He's not Spider-Man's evil twin. I guess you never read the comics since the 60s and 70s? I loved Kraven but on screen he would be a bore. Get with the times, loser. Some new things are actually good. I even preferred Hobgoblin over Green Goblin. And I loved Jack O' Lantern too.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:44 a.m. CST

    BilboRing

    by ZeroCorpse

    I'm in my late 30s. I do believe I've read nearly every Spider-Man comic, save for a huge chunk of the clone saga (SUCKED) and several stops in the McFarlane era and the Venom storylines. The original Venom was still "eat your brains" stupid, but back then they focused more (and constantly) on the "He's got all my powers, but he's more powerful than me, and he knows who I am. Oh WOE IS ME." angle. He is SO VERY MUCH the "dark Spider-Man" evil twin, and I don't know how most people can't see how lazy the writing for Venom really is. [p] Hobgoblin was OK. Not as interesting as Norman by any means. Jack O'Lantern was always a joke, even when he kept switching identities. [p] And if you think Kraven would be boring on screen, I don't know how you think a cheap rip-off of an ALIENS xenomorph is going to be interesting. Kraven has a personality. All Venom has is that "WE HATE SPIDER MAN!" thing. He hasn't even got a decent motivation for his hatred- Just rejection and being a general loser. At least Kraven had a point to his hunting Spider-Man. Venom's more like a scorned lover than a major villain, the way he behaves. [p] Jeez. The recent "Feral" storyline would be better than anything with Venom in it. They finally realized Venom was a one-trick pony in the comics, and pretty much axed him (unless you count the Scorpion/Gargan version as being anything significant). [p] Ha! They could use the Fabulous Frog-Boy, Ringer, Spot, or Kangaroo and STILL turn out a more interesting story than anything featuring slobber-puss.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Connors was in the first one, too

    by leavittj1982

    Connors has been in both SM movies, but had a larger role in the second. So his appearance in it wasn't a teaser for a forthcoming villain; he's always been one of the characters, and perhaps always will be. Personally, I never found the Lizard to be an interesting or even realistic character. Conners is best suited to remain Parker's chemistry professor, in my opinion.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 11:38 a.m. CST

    That's the best set-up for a villain

    by SithMenace

    Have him in two or three movies, then when he does turn it brings alot more emotional depth. The Lizard is a very tragic character, he would be a great addition to these movies.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST

    I liked it. Although...

    by porterdsgn

    I still think it's a setup. I liked this trailer better than the last one. *thumbs up*

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST

    great googly moogly!

    by quadrupletree

    NOW I'm excited to see this movie. Sony's over reacting here, that "official" trailer did nothing for me. That split second view of Venom is all you need.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I just saw it on YouTube...

    by beastie

    ..just thought someone might like to know.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 2099

    by HeWhoCannotBeNamed

    Before I start, please don't attack; I am attempting to ask a poorly structured yet serious question. Let it be known that I really enjoyed Spider-Man 2099. Clearly I was part of a very small minority. Regardless, when I saw the first Spider-Man film, I was under the belief that the "organic web shooters" and "finger claws" were ripped off and/or inspired by Spider-Man 2099. I know these two characteristics exist in said comic. Miguel's got 'em. I personally thought it was brilliant and never really liked the webshooters with cartridges. Whatever. Everyone has an opinion. Did anyone else draw this Spider-Man 2099 conclusion or am I the new word of the day - a fucktard? Thanks to all who reply to my query. For the record, I liked the first two films and I would be very surprised if they botched the third one. I'll be there at midnight with the wife with mildly high hopes. Let's see is this cacophony of storylines SFX riddled action fest works.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:18 p.m. CST

    On Marko killing Uncle Ben

    by ShallowGrave

    It would be a nice little twist if this is how they set up the Eddie Brock storyline. Because Spider-Man was at the window where the thief fell from in the first movie, what if Brock writes the story “Spidey ‘kills’ the wrong guy,” alleging falsely that Marko was actually the culprit. Peter finds out through Spidey’s fights with Sandman that, although Sandman had something to do with the murder, Brock is wrong. Parker exposes Brock as a fraud, and that’s what leads Brock to the desperate man seen in the church. Just a thought.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST

    HOLY CRAP!

    by ninjatracksuit

    Yep, they should have finished this one and made it the trailer, as it captures the spirit of bad Spidey/Venom that everyone has been chewing their nails about - but I have a feeling we will be seeing it as such when the movie is closer to launch. Really, though, for you kids that didn't see it - it is excellent. They broach the idea of Marko as Ben's killer a little more smoothly, Parker's psychological change is hinted at more strongly, and yeah - Venom is saved for the tail end of the trailer, but it's just right (enough, but not too much). We'll be seeing more of him, though, when the toys hit the shelves about 2-3 weeks before the movie releases...

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 12:58 p.m. CST

    NEED ANOTHER WORKING LINK

    by skynetbauxi

    can someone please repost it on youtube?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1 p.m. CST

    This link still works...

    by alfiemoon

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5866757396576992173&q=spiderman+3+trailer&hl=en

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:11 p.m. CST

    WOLVERINE!!!

    by Darwyn

    Why is no one commenting on the shot a second and a half before the Black Spider-Man 3 Logo comes up? Thats' Mother Fuckin' Wolverine's Mother Fuckin' claws, mutha fucka! Biggest secret ever? Or silly gag they play in the movie? Or did I see completely wrong??? Cuz I'll tell you what, you guys go look two seconds before the logo with the crazy staccato orchestra pounding in your head and you'll see Peter looking scared at three razor sharp, awfully familiar blades. Someone look into this!!! I saw fucking Big-Foot!!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by godzillasushi

    Dont you think its kinda cool? I mean this thing will look pretty awesome....

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST

    alfiemoon

    by skynetbauxi

    THANK YOU

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    where is the BORAT talkback???

    by samsquanch

    anyone think it's kind of weird that there isn't one?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Mini-Wolverine??

    by skynetbauxi

    Darwyn... take another look at that shot and you'll notice it's an extreme CLOSE-UP of Peter's eye looking at those claws... and with the claws being even closer to the camera than Peter's face, that would mean that those are some pretty TINY claws... even if they were just the TIPS of Wolverine's claws, we can clearly see that the claws are only about a half inch apart from each other, and I don't think Wolverine could pull that off... unless... maybe the 4TH VILLAIN in SPIDER-MAN 3 is Rick Moranis from HONEY I SHRUNK THE KIDS!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Those aren't Wolvies claws...

    by abominate

    ...in the trailer. They're claws on a gauntlet worn by Harry when he's on the goblin glider. Go back and watch the official trailer again. And again. Do some homework. It's when he says "You knew this day was coming, Pete." And hey, how does Spidey get into a moving bank truck without Sandy noticing, when the back door is still closed and sealed? The only explanation can be that Spidey tears his way through the roof while Sandman is distracted with taking out the truck driver / guards in "sand" form. This movie will rock my balls in so many ways. Must we bother with winter at all?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST

    And I wasn't kidding...

    by abominate

    ...about the face in the lower right corner of the number "3" at the end of the trailer. Go watch!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Not Wolverine

    by Dominic

    Yea, that def wasn't Wolverine, it was Harry. Logan's presence in the movie would just complicate an already packed storyline. Besides, there is no way Fox would let Colombia use Wolverines unless they got some of the action ($$$). There will be a fight at the end of 3 involving SM, V, and Harry. Sandman is long gone, beaten by water (thanks to the spoiler in the trailer). Since it has already been said that Gwen doesn't die in this one, 3 will end in a cliffhanger either during or after the fight. If Gwen does die, I hope it's Harry who does it and not Venom. That would be too similar to the Ultimate Spiderman storyline where Carnage kills Gwen (which I thought was pretty lame). Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that Brock will be tied into the Gwen storyline. He’s either in love with her or MJ. Brock has always been jealous of Peter, that’s why Venom hates him so much.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    On a side note

    by Dominic

    I always thought it would be really cool if they started the movie with Spiderman preventing a lesser known super-villain from committing a crime, like stopping Shocker or Rhino from robbing a bank. I’m pretty sure these characters will never be a main villain, but it would be cool to see them nonetheless.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Fools!

    by seanny_d

    That is NOT how Sandman is going to die. It's obvious that's happening during the subway fight in which Spider-Man is in his black costume. I would be willing to bet lots and lots of money that Sandman gets taken out by a blue and red Spidey.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Erm...does anyone else think

    by Cat_Corporation

    Sandman looks a bit like Biff from Back to the Future...? (PS. Link still working from the Empire Magazine website, if nobody's mentioned it)

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 2:53 p.m. CST

    spidey 2099

    by GiLL

    was better than the original.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST

    You Tube Link for Banned Trailer - Works For Now

    by PlasmaOrb

    Here is a link i found on You Tube that has the trailer thats been taken off quite a few times by Sony... pretty nice, too bad they didnt make that trailer instead of the one they released. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twdYMZufYp0

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 3:35 p.m. CST

    great trailer!

    by reckni

    much, much better than the official one.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 3:44 p.m. CST

    ok wow

    by deadpool51

    that was totally more inspiring then the thursday trailer, i have a feelign though this is gonna be the last trailer, cause its basically the same as thursday's one but with added scenes. So we will be seeing this in the theater in the near future. plus that shot of Venom at the end was just made for this trailer its not gonna be in the movie.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST

    oh and one more thing

    by deadpool51

    If you read the4 newspapers in teh trailer everyone is in love with spiderman now cause he saved a baby that feel from a burning building, not cause he saved people from john Jamesons crashign space craft, so how did the symbiot get there?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    NEW LINK!!!

    by Goonie

    http://gorillamask.net/spiderman3venom.shtml

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    sweet

    by Lil LoLo

    seriously. wtf sony, this is so much better.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    OK, Not Wolverine

    by Darwyn

    Your probably right - it wasn't Wolverine. I couldn't imagine how they would have gotten around all the red tape without a leak, but ulitmately it looked so much like Wolvie's claws I needed someone to tell me what the hell it actually was so I could stop my imagination from running wild. So it's the new Green Goblin, we think, eh? Still, imagine how cool to have a Marvel cross-over, just for a cameo with Hugh Jackman. I'd have one of Harry's overly graphic orgasm moments. Thanks for the feedback, all.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST

    I'm offically psyched for this movie

    by misnomer

    why didnt they release this first?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Don't Keep It Secret, Don't Keep It Safe

    by DarthDooku

    i think it's our duty, as the fans, to do what Harry suggested. Get the trailer out there. It's been off of YouTube, so download it from the gorillamask site above, send it to whoever you can, and let us show Sony the power of the internet!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Ramie is an old school spidey fan....?

    by deadpool51

    How can you say that and explain What he did to the goblin costume. Ye si knwo some thign sdotn transfer well from comics to movie but he coudl have tried alittel harder to make the original comic costume work in aan evil sadistic way. I mean who woudl think that the joker woudltn just look like a stupd guy in clown make up for the new batman movie, bu ti bet they make him look evil as hell and make it work.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Click Here for the WMV Version of the Venom-izedTrailer

    by DarthDooku

    http://www.yousendit.com/download/Jjv%2BGuw8bWw%3D

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Damn, nobody else preferred the official trailer?

    by Ribbons

    Apparently not. But I thought the iFilm trailer that debuted on Thursday was pretty great, if a tad spoiler-y. A couple of people have said it was "edited really badly," so apparently I know even less about film than I thought I did, because I didn't notice any glaring problems with the way it was cut.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:04 p.m. CST

    To Harry

    by leavittj1982

    Hey Harry, what is your opinion regarding Venom's presence in Spider-Man 3?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:16 p.m. CST

    I think 3 baddies will work out fine...

    by andrew coleman

    I think Harry sets up Sandman at the beginning and for the first half spidey fights Sandman and Harry. He gains the black suit and almost kills both of them while at the same time pissing off Brock. Then half way through he looses the suit creating Venom and making a huge ending battle scene. If you think about it they are setting things up pretty well and Sandman is a good choice in the role. He's a perfect half way bad guy he's not a main villian like Venom or Doc Ock or a goblin. He's not a low grade bad guy like Rhino or Shocker so he's perfect as the element he is in the movie.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:16 p.m. CST

    TMZ is on it

    by bubbha

    http://tinyurl.com/y9x9ja

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 7:32 p.m. CST

    If you missed it...

    by jacked_up

    Or want to watch it again over and over and over go to this link for the full trailer decent quality. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5866757396576992173 who knows how much longer it will be up. Rock on!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:26 p.m. CST

    detail in spidey being choked w/black webbing shot

    by y2ames

    um..freeze frame the gorillamask.net video (http://gorillamask.net/spiderman3venom.shtml) and you will clearly see battle-damage spidey reaching for help or whatever while a) being choked by black webbing while b) covered with sand. i guess he DOES fight both at the same time.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Time for me to show some love and have fun

    by Phategod2

    It feels good not to bash a movie or have to. With that said this what I believe will happend. someone thinks that spidey will take out Harry and have to fight SM and Venom at the same time. I think spidey will fight the sandman first in the old Red and Blue First get his ass handed to him and then get the Symbiote suit, where he will proceed to hallucinate that SM killed dear old uncle ben and proceed to layeth the Smacketh Down and make the Sandman Take a Dirt nap. Now there seems to be this overlying theme of "asking for help" so at some point I think harry and spidey are going to team up on venom or maybe Spidey will some surprise help against the Two of them; say from Fox studios, anything can happen. I love having fun specualting about the wonderful possibilties of a actualy good movie. Now back to the hating. Get me some fresh Transformer news ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST

    The Studios make ZERO sense these days

    by Gorrister

    Could somebody please explain this to me? Especially someone who understands "The Biz", such as Harry, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I see movie trailers as "commercials". As in "an advertisement for a product". Isn't an advertisement supposed to get people to BUY the product? (or, in this case, buy a ticket...or two...and eventually the DVDs?) If so, then why do studios get so FREAKED OUT when a commercial for their product gets shown all over God's creation (ie: the internet)? They treat people who show movie trailers freely to millions of viewers with the same contempt they treat people who distribute pirated movies on sites like Kazaa! I'm especially bewildered by this attitude after footage like this is leaked. Ok, I can understand maybe wanted to keep certain things a surprise....but the footage IS NOW OUT THERE! They cannot, to steal a geek-quote, "stop the signal"! Even trying to do so merely brings contempt upon an industry already increasingly desperate for business. Is it any wonder people are going to the theater less and less these days?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Gorrister

    by Ribbons

    I think it's mostly a formality, in case the footage that is leaked is ever somehow compromising. Maybe not, who knows.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:25 p.m. CST

    The footage is still online

    by Gorrister

    The studio cannot bring down every site that is showing this trailer. It's impossible. Even with fools posting links on this site for Sony to read about so they can sic their attack-lawyers on. (Sony thanks you for your colaboration, by the way) The footage is still out there and will stay out there forever. It's already too late.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:28 p.m. CST

    PHOTO LINKS

    by George Newman

    Here are links to some good quality still images from that infamous footage, http://tinyurl.com/yeejxw , and then some stills showing venom's webbing all over the place, http://tinyurl.com/ygktfv . Just click the NEXT buttons on the upper right side. ALSO click FULL SIZE to get a better look at the glorious images. ALSO ALSO WIK - You gotta probably remove any spaces from within the URLs i gave.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST

    EXACTLY

    by Phategod2

    I guess he has his reasons after SM2 I have faith in Raimi and for a man who did not like the Venom part of Spiderman canon it looks like the look at least very close to the Source material thats the one thing I've loved about The Raimi Spidermans save the GG is his knack for getting the look right. I mean look at the sandman Green striped Wellfare sweater w/ a crew cut God I love that. The GG again looks like crap and I hope Im wrong and he gets the crap beat out of him by spidey or venom maybe both that would make my day. here a little fun question if the spiderman role was up for grabs and you threw Jake Gyllenhaal in a pit with Tobey Maguire and made em fight to the death for it who would win?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Don't get me wrong

    by Gorrister

    I'm all for the abolition of movie trailers. God knows I have way too many of them cluttering up the beginnings of various DVDs I've paid good money for (and am then forced to burn a "preview-free" copy of to watch). But my point still stands: The footage is out there! It was RELEASED and AUTHORIZED by Sony for ComicCon. Trying to stop it from being distributed is like trying to stop drug traffic (ie: their efforts will not keep it from getting to people who WANT it)

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Let's think about this rationally.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Why would the belltower thing be at the end of the movie? We all KNOW what is going to happen, so where's the suspense? The ending is supposed to surprise the hell out of you and be thrilling, is it not?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    I dont need it but I'll take it

    by Phategod2

    we dont need footage of SM3 but I'd still like to marvel and see venom in all his glory BSB. Besides without leaks how would we know to avoid crap like a certain Movie involving a great toyline enjoyed by millions during the early to mid 80's (Im looking at you Mikey B.)

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Terminator 4?

    by George Newman

    TERMINATOR filming in NY http://tinyurl.com/ycw88j ?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:47 p.m. CST

    The Bell Tower

    by Gorrister

    I would agree that this scene probably wouldn't be the climax of the movie. The only trouble is, I have seen MANY instances in which movie trailers give away the ending of the film, if not the entire story. Because of this past trend, I'm not so inclined to believe that Sony wouldn't put their big climax in the trailer. They've done it before, so why wouldn't they do it again?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:48 p.m. CST

    YouTube's Fast

    by DarthDooku

    Try posting the trailer on YouTube. As soon as you're done uploading, it's taken off the site. Sony's really on top of their game, no? As far as the belltower scene is concerned, i don't see how they could put it anywhere but the end, considering the amount of material (getting the black suit, developing Sandman and Harry Osborne, developing relationship between Parker and Brock) that needs to be covered up to that point.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 9:50 p.m. CST

    George Newman

    by Drworm2002

    Prob for the TV show

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Me too

    by Phategod2

    I said the same thing. and shows Bays has no faith in his own abilities as a film maker. Raimi has shown that he values our opinion but knows how to make the film he's going to make. Bay on the other hand; knows little to nothing about TF's. and probably Used to pick on the kids who played with them, he was roughly 17-22 when Transformers were at there peak and probably was never interested. Also In every movie he's participated in the actors have done a wonderful job of playing themselves, Bruce Willis did the Wrong place wrong time thing for the 33rd time, Smith, and lawrence, just played themselves and Honestly I believe none of there lines were scripted, and if they were then shame on Bay. But now he's charged with creating characters the way they talk, walk. He basically has to created a actor and there's the scariest thing he's ever produced since Jessica Biels Meat puppets.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Gorrister "fools posting links on this site" Sigh.

    by TallBoy66

    Hey, genius, maybe we're trying to get other people to see it so we post link so they can see it. You know, something more productive instead of your leet coak and dagger "oh, the footage is out there YOU CAN'T STOP THE SIGNAL" bullshit. Sheesh.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST

    I'd guess that...

    by Ribbons

    ...Sony's on top of YouTube without our help. Just look for a couple of tags and the videos should be easy enough to track down. Posting URLs to individual videos in TalkBack is probably barely a blip on Sony's radar at this point.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:41 p.m. CST

    my other conspiracy theory

    by Phategod2

    My other view on the TF leaks is that it really the work ole D2C's and he really does not like the direction this movie is going and is trying to corrupt it as much as possible by attacking all the fans and posting all the pics and concept art he can. By making himself a pariah he's driving us away from this movie maybe its all and act. No producer will say there movie sucks but by takig the actions he has taken this is his way of really saying "This is not the vision I had and I will destroy it 'no matter the cost'". If so then D2C's (and BBCB knows who I'm talking to and so does D2C's) I apolgize for any hard feeling between us and I hope you are successful with you plan of studio betrayel and I will aid you with any plan you hatch to bring down the man.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Sweet

    by BlackBauer0320

    How about that unfinished shot of Spidey slingin through the buildings with multiple Goblin blades tearing after him. Awesome. Also, isn't it possible to have Venom in the movie for more than 10 seconds and still have it be setting him up for the next film?

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    I dont pay him any attention anymore

    by Phategod2

    I got on a TF tangent I hate that. I'm done now but if he shows up and posts a little snide remark maybe I'd deserve it for brnging it up. but things are a little slow at siebertron.com and I always have to curtail my hate over there because of the mods and D2C's does have a membership. the fun thing is when ever D2C's shows up I keep my mouth shut and he gets modded for attacking me. on other news I have a Member at D2C's forum when I find reason to post something there see if you can spot me. I use a nice little anagram.

  • Nov. 13, 2006, 11:53 p.m. CST

    PLANT

    by thebearovingian

    This trailer is an urban myth! A cruel hoax upon the weak minded! You never saw it! You never saw Venom! Sam Raimi did not rape your childhood! MJ doesn't die in this one! She can't die for she will live forever in Peter's heart! Uncle Ben is a handsome, bald, black man who created rice! And bowling! AAAGGGHHHHH!

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Ive seen it Bearovingian

    by Phategod2

    I know your joking I dont know if youve seen it but I have is saved nice and neatly on my hard drive and to barrow a term from the dearly departed Professor X and Brother J from X-Clan Venom is VANGLORIOUS. *********SPOILER*************oh yeah MJ may not get killed but she gets a nice pimp slap from peter. The symbiote suit makes your pimp hand strong.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Craziest Venom Evar!

    by Johnno

    http://tinyurl.com/ykj55u

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 12:13 a.m. CST

    ajtk210 - nice..

    by Freefinger

    Congratulations, 2 posts (I'm not counting the stuttering) and no "fu**" words, wow, 19 yrs old must've made you more mature now hasnt'it? Now stop bitching at people go over to your inflatable girlfriend (which you so likely needed to post), have some fun and leave your bitching at other people at home. We don't care that you are a little nerd who doesn't get it enough, we really don't, just stop with your little shitty remarks, and start posting without telling people that they are a bunch of fucks... Has Ricky said nice double posts...

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I can't lie anymore.

    by thebearovingian

    I have seen it! It rocked! And i wholeheartedly agree with all of you that it was way better than the official trailer! I love that Venom is being introduced! I can't wait until May 4th! Someone freeze me until May 4th! But don't forget to thaw me out so I can watch Spidey 3!

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Get a clue Tallboy

    by Gorrister

    You post a link, Sony sees it and shuts it down. Its counterproductive. How many people will see it before Sony kills it? Do a little homework and find the fucking trailer yourself.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Side note

    by abbottoklus

    "I always thought it would be really cool if they started the movie with Spiderman preventing a lesser known super-villain from committing a crime" It's funny that you would say that because I was just discussing this with a friend earlier today. Don't know if anyone's noticed but IGN reported a few days ago that Bruce Campbell's rumored cameo in this film is none other than Mysterio (a role which screams BC in my opinion) and we were talking about how awesome it would be to open the movie with Mysterio planning some devious crime and Spider-Man busting in and foiling him. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that I think that's how it's going to play out. You heard it here first, Mysterio in the first five minutes or bust. And on a final note, I have this crazy feeling about Sony so desperately trying to get rid of any Venom shots like this...what if they're planning to attach it to the trailer in theaters when it's released with Bond? How fucking cool would that be? I'm not getting my hopes up, but if that's the case.....yay. Also anyone else notice in the new trailer the TERRIBLE music cut a couple seconds before it transitions to him and MJ on the web? Disgusting. I loved the trailer despite lack of Venom but that is not how you cut music.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 1:12 a.m. CST

    will venom have his vagina?

    by Exeter

    will we see some symbiote puss huh huh?

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Why, Sony? Why?

    by Capt. Spaulding

    Why not show it? I've seen (and I ain't saying where - lest it get taken down) the real quick shot of Venom, with the camera going in his mouth (is there more?). And really, Sony, Sandman, okay, cool, we saw him in the teaser, you say there's a second villian, well, let's see it. Or, are you holding out, so you can put it on Casino Royale, hoping fanboys will pull a Meet Joe Black/Episode 1 trailer thing and go see the movie just for the trailer before it? HA! Not in the age on the internet. SO JUST SHOW THE FUCKING VENOM ALREADY! Sheeeesh! Sorry, I'm just annoyed.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 3:12 a.m. CST

    I think everyone is forgetting

    by SithMenace

    how much ground the first Spidey movie was able to cover in 2 hours. It starts out with him being normal and ends with him accepting his role as Spider-man, having defeated his first super villain and becoming a public nuisance/hero. The movie covers six months and introduces all the major characters. I don't think this one will be any different. There's plenty of time to set up the symbiote story, deteriorate the Parker/Brock relationship and have Venom in the last half hour or so. I'm thinking the second act will end with Peter shedding the suit so the third act can revolve around Venom. I also like the idea someone suggested about Spidey opening the movie with a fight with a Super villain. Start the movie at the end of a story, Raiders of the Lost Ark style, and give everyone a kickass opening. I would looooove to see the opening credits get disrupted by a super villain in action, only to see Spidey swing in and beat on him for a few minutes.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Ssssssh

    by Talkbacker with no name

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5104232666565084568&q=spiderman+3+venom

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 6:37 a.m. CST

    New Link

    by DarthDooku

    Looks like the last one expired lol http://download.yousendit.co m/91953A3B7972DF51

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Hey Phategod2

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Funny, I couldn't help but notice that you referred to BringingSexyBack as BBCB (brokebackcowboy) again. Tsk, tsk. ;)

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST

    also

    by conbarba

    http://www.ifilm.com/presents/spiderman3 no idea if everybody knows about this, just found out

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 10 a.m. CST

    Reach-Around White Spider?

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    Finally got to see the "full" trailer, but if I don't see that big white spider in all it's glory, I fear I'll get angry. And you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Briefly I saw this leaked trailer on youtube

    by emeraldboy

    and What it actually contained was clips of the film interspersed with clips of spiderman done in very basic computer graphic mode. The clips of the movies have propert of columbia pictures and graphics of spider look like they came from the effects house. I dont know who leaked the trailer. They will have to do a major re-shoot for the thirs trailer. It was supposed to go online last thursday but that was when they discovered the theft. They put a trailer. CBR said the leaked trailer was unready and so therefore Sony rejected, which must have pissed somebody off.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 10:53 a.m. CST

    To much pre-release hype spoils the movie for US

    by godzillasushi

    Normal people dont search the internet looking for this crap. The folks that saw this trailer are the minority. A small part of the people that will see the final movie.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Spider-Man 2099

    by BilboRing

    I thought it was a decent comic. Interesting. Back to Brock. He's mentioned in Spidey 1 when JJJ hires Peter for his Spidey pictures. You hear JJJ's assistant (Not Robbie. The chick whose name I forgot) say "Eddie Brock is not going to be happy about this." Or something to that effect. Brock hates Peter already. He ruined his career. Maybe in 3, he will ruin it even more by accident. Like someone said on top. Maybe Brock says Sandman is responsible for Ben's death and Spidey realizes that is not the case. And he fights the urge to kill Sandman, runs to the church and gets rid of the costume.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Venom

    by ducKy72

    Raimi only agreed to put Venom in the movie to please the fans, as Avi Arad asked him to. Having a 5 second ending with Venom would not please the fans. Watch the trailer, see the black webbing around red Spidey's neck, and understand that of this moment in time, there is no certainty of a Spider-Man 4. 3 is at this point the last Spider-Man film in production. Directors only have cliffhanger endings on movies with definate sequels. Like Empire/Jedi, POTC 2/3, hell, even Spider-Man 2/3 with Haryy discovering the goblin lair. You do not add a cliffhanger unless you are already set to make the next installment. Get over it.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Holy fuck

    by MasterKenobi

    Saw Venom pic over at Chud!! Want the trailer now!! Anybody, a link!?! Or I´ll go over to the dark side right now. Anyway best fucking trailer ever, even in it´s unfinished form. Fans and non-fans alike will crap their pants when they see this trailer on the big screen. Next year gonna be the War Of The Movies! Sony should fucking release this shit very very soon, or else...

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Calm down...

    by Graduate1967

    Anybody consider that the filmmakers are playing Venom down... probably teasing him as a cliffhanger image in the last minutes of the flick. This seems to be Spidey, Sandman and Osborne's story, with all his loved ones on the sideline, including Brock. Why lead anybody on into incorrectly thinking that Venom has any screen time? That said... that image of Venom is choice.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 1:33 p.m. CST

    ducky72, what do you mean?

    by DarthDooku

    i was thinking the same thing, but do you mean Venom may be defeated in this movie alone?

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Why is Venom anorexic?

    by Ricky Henderson

    He's kind of skinny, isn't he? Really skinny?! He looks like a black Carnage. Maybe its a good thing that we'll only see him in the last 30 seconds of the film.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Re@ Venom's defeat

    by ducKy72

    Yes, I think so. But defeat doesn't mean killed. He may be simply beaten and escapes, or captured. But the current Venom story will likely be closed in this film, ie he is stopped from kidnapping MJ or whatever. Doesn't mean he won't reappear in future movies. If any are made. I'm just stressing the unlikelyhood of this supposed 'cliffhanger'.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Re: Graduate.

    by ducKy72

    Read this http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Comic-Con-Sam-Raimi-Talks-Spider-Man-3-3047. html If you still think Venom is a cameo, then I don't know what else to say.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST

    why venom is skinny

    by roccotheripper

    the special effects aren't finished, that's why. he's going to be jacked!

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Those were definately Claws

    by Phategod2

    I watched that trailer again and those were definatley Adamantium claws I think either one of three things maybe sandmand, or mysterio, or venom Changes shape into Wolverine or Logan actually does appear in the movie. which would be the greates thing Fox has done.....ever.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Oh, Venom, you tease...

    by poutineman

    Raimi's good at screwing with our brains. Remember, he's a geek, too. I'm not banking on anything until the flick's out. One thing's for sure...Bryan Singer should be taking notes on how to effectively tease & please the fanbase.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 7:46 p.m. CST

    EW

    by MaulRat

    "Your a fucking retard" = "Fucktard" Like I said... cracker slang. How about we make up words like... umm I don't know.. how about... ASSTIC.. or... ANALOID... or how about CUNTISTIC or something...

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 7:58 p.m. CST

    I disagree

    by leavittj1982

    I disagree with the presumption that Venom will be size-enhanced via CGI to make him look stronger. It makes perfect sense to me that Venom could be a scrawny string-bean. Peter Parker just grew a six-pack when he became hundreds of times stronger than the strongest body-builder; why should Eddie Brock be any different? Besides, a skinnier Venom is visually scarrier than a buff Venom, especially if he's constantly crawling on all fours with that reptoid head of his bent upward like that. A buff physique might appear more masculine and super-villain-ish, but Venom isn't a super villain; Venom is angry photographer covered in sentient, violent, vengeful alien goo.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Sony does this crap all the time with all their product

    by PornKing

    Check out maddox's rant about the subject: www.the bestpageintheuniverse.com

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by leavittj1982

    I just read a lot of the comic-book history of Venom. Hahahahaha, oh my gosh. What a ridiculous character. Let Sony change Venom however they want; it would only be for the best. Wow. I mean just, WOW.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 9:11 p.m. CST

    From the guy that people call crazy for "seeing things"

    by Shermdawg

    anyone that thinks they're seeing Logan's claws ARE NUTS!!!<br><br>:P

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 9:26 p.m. CST

    WOLVERINE!!1!!one!!

    by onemanarmy

    Anyone who thinks Wolvie will be in this movie because of the 4 inch claws shown in the leaked trailer need to do some research. Unless of course...it's a midget Wolverine. Get over the thought fanboys, change your moist panties, and deal with the knowledge that it's not Wolverine's claws.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    BRUCE CAMPBELL

    by onemanarmy

    Bruce Campbell will appear in Spider-Man 3. “He plays a cameo, yeah. He’s got a new character. We can’t say.” Now that is something worth talking about...I can't wait for this film.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 9:49 p.m. CST

    I've seen worst stories

    by Phategod2

    The Vulture, The lizard, Shocker, electro, Mace Windu. theres tons of terrible back stories that are ludicrous most of the stuff written about him before the whole maximum carnage thing is very plausible

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 9:53 p.m. CST

    explain the "Midgit" remark

    by Phategod2

    we only saw part of the claws but they were claws what else could they have been I'm not saying for sure that there wolverines claws but dont be surprised if Fox showed a little love. nothing impossible highly unlikely yes but not impossible.

  • Nov. 14, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    black webbing

    by rmh411

    yah venom fights spiderman and kidnapps marry jane thats why shes in a web of black webbing ,when spiderman is swinging on webs his are white. Mary jane is in a black web. def fight a fight of V vs SM for maryjane. woot spiderman 3 is gonna kick ass. VEnom vs spidey.woot

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 12:06 a.m. CST

    i agree

    by DarthDooku

    i'm with you on that, ducky. Given no guarantee of a fourth movie, it really makes little sense to have a Venom cameo. Most interesting will be to see how they can fit Venom, Sandman, Green Goblin 2, Gwen Stacy, what looks like a potential marriage plot, Eddie Brock's anger, etc. into a single movie.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 1:10 a.m. CST

    I was wrong

    by Phategod1

    OK I went over that again and I agree the claws were too small.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 1:22 a.m. CST

    no wolverine, for fucks sakes.

    by samsquanch

    that's the hobgoblin. since when do Wolvie's claws come out the side of his forearm? Christ I'm a geek.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Sonyeatsballs

    by lostbat

    http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/529628/307152/

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 5:16 a.m. CST

    My thoughts and eBay

    by Tons of Fun

    personally i thought it was great, but could have used a little more info on the origins of the black suit. i know the comic origins, but i really don't see raimi sending peter into space long enough to aquire it. are it's origins still extra-terrestrial in nature or did they go the 'Ultimate' route and is it some sort of bio-suit? this quetion is rhetorical on my part because i'm really trying to stay spoiler free these days. but on a related side note, there is a lot of spider-man comics on ebay for a decent asking price if anyone is interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330050253166&rd=1&rd=1 i fully expect to be og-ied and roasted for this act of self referal, but you can't blame a guy for trying to reach an items intended audience can you?

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 5:18 a.m. CST

    grammatical correction.

    by Tons of Fun

    i meant hog-tied and roasted, not og-ied and roasted.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Venom's origins

    by ducKy72

    Raimi has mentioned that the symbiote will be of extraterrestrial origins. My guess is they'll use the shuttle crash from the series or something similar, maybe a meteorite, which Spider-Man helps avert, hence the people cheering Spider-Man's name and the kids wearing the costumes.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Meterorite sounds far fetched...

    by Johnno

    I eman it's not Superman... Most likely it'll be the shuttle thing, or I'm guessing even some kinda nanotech suit with some possible alien ties that's part of the same technology that creates the Sandman...

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    He's actually going with the alien origin of the suit

    by Phategod2

    This is awesome. Raimi is king I say we clone Raimi and let them do all Movies based on Comic Books, Cartoons, and Video Games.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 8:25 p.m. CST

    OMG Wolverines!!

    by Ribbons

    Look at the end of the trailer ral closely and OMGF tere it's Wolvies claws!!@!1 This movie is gonna kickaass Sam Rami your the man?

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Spider-man is so totally

    by Synoptic23

    Spider-man is so totally sweet I just crapped my pants.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 10:37 p.m. CST

    THOSE WERE NOT HIS CLAWS

    by Phategod2

    I made the same mistake just look harder ther to small and too close together.

  • Nov. 15, 2006, 11:04 p.m. CST

    No man Wolverine!

    by Ribbons

    Im tellin yo you dont think the claws are theyre because why accept it but just ook, near the end Wolvie claws!!! I cant wait til May 4 wear we finaly get some Wolverin on Spidet action! Wolverine would totatly win so I think they team up at the end to take out Venom;

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 12:08 a.m. CST

    I saw the same thing

    by Phategod2

    I slowed it down to the actual frame and if you leave your Email address I'll e-mail you the still photo.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 1:21 a.m. CST

    The Claws are Goblins?

    by Sovikos

    The Claws could be something off Harry's Goblin suit. There are them blade things he has on his hand so...

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 1:31 a.m. CST

    What?!

    by Ribbons

    dued i do'nt no why your being so. ok look the claws there are there claws just like Wolveys!11! The same type adn evrything! H@rry has knifes but those our ckearly Wolvreines 3 claws!

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 2 a.m. CST

    god phate...

    by abbottoklus

    Phate, quit being dumb. He's fucking with you cause you're gullable. As for the origins of Venom, I really, REALLY hope it's the shuttle crash cause that would be awesome beyond reason, I keep having visions of the plane scene in Superman Returns but even bigger and better...but that's the very reason why I think it's unlikely. A shot that huge, something about it would've gotten out by now. Unless it was done all or mostly in studio, but I don't see how they could recreate such an incredible scene without having to take over a bridge and that just seems like news that would've gotten out by now to me. On the other hand, since they're being so secretive about so many things involving Venom, I can also see them completely, hiding any details about his origin until the movie comes out. Especially when you consider that in every big trailer so far, every villain's origin has been touched on except for Venom's now..so here's to hoping for the shuttle crash.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Looking for a little venom? here u go.

    by Reelheed

    theres an animated gif showing the venom sections here: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=115116 I guess sony are firefighting like mad so it may be taken down swiftly. People are going crazy for this but I think the test footage looks a little ropey and venom far to glossy (also i'd be cool if he got the eyes of the current venom). I hope someone smart has put the finished shots at the top of the priority list for s3 and we see the official cut of this trailer soon.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 4:57 a.m. CST

    My Guess..

    by Scanain

    The powers that be know Parker is Spidey and use him to take down Sandman who's existence is a threat to something underhand on their part. Regular Spidey can't defeat Sandman and Hobgoblin, however Blacksuit Spidey does. Somehow Spidey does something as Blacksuit that makes him question what he has become and I suspect Hobgoblin has a change of heart late in act 3 that effects Parkers final intention to rid himself of blacksuit. Roll in Cathederal Scene wher Venom is created, and soon after he and Spidey go at it, Venom kicks his ass, Hobgoblin intervenes to save parker and perhaps bites the dust himself, Venom flee's wounded Parker is almost dead, film ends with him in the ER.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Ribbons...

    by Frijole

    I hope you're joking. The terrible grammar and internet-speak are too pronounced for you not to be. However, JUST IN CASE you aren't- those are NOT Wolverine's claws. They are shaped differently and proportionately too small to be his claws. Wolvie isn't the first or last character in history (or even the Marvel universe) to have three similar metal looking claws like that... Watch some Bruce Lee movies or play Street Fighter. It's not Wolverine.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Wolverine

    by ducKy72

    I can't believe anyone is retarded enough to believe wolverine would be in this. Those claws belong to Harry. Sony and Fox are RIVAL companies. Fox would never allow Sony to use a character they owned.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 10:08 a.m. CST

    This is the third time...

    by abominate

    ...I've set it here. Those CLAWS are on a gauntlet worn by HARRY as GG2. It ain't wolverine. Man, I think tonight I'll just do a screen capture from the trailer and post it somewhere for the fucktards. Say, anyone want to see some footage behind the scenes at the bank truck chase?

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Green Goblin or Hobgoblin?

    by ProfGriffin

    So...being an old-school Spidey-Fan, I'm a little distressed that there's mention of Harry Osborn as Hobgoblin and not the Green Goblin. Also, in all the trailers I've seen, Harry is swooping around on a glider etc, but is mask-less and wearing what looks to be a black leather jacket!!!? Please, someone tell me that HARRY is The GREEN GOBLIN, and that he does indeed wear the mask (or a suitable replacement mask). Leave the talk of Hobgoblin to that rich prick, Roderick Kingsley. Prof. Griffin- Fangoria TV

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Yeah, they should have Shocker...

    by abominate

    ...as a baddy in 4. He could run around shoving his fingers up ladies' asses and whut-nots, like he's holding a bowling ball. "You've been shock-o-fied!!"

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Examination of the trailer...

    by abominate

    ...show Harry using a black version of the glider, black clothing, and a black mouth-mask with some green trim. So he's kinda like GG2, kinda like Hobby, but sorta neither. I think Raimi is playing it like it would come to pass in real life. Harry found his dad's gear, so he's gonna use it, but not adopt the silly Goblin personna. As far as we know, Harry isn't crazy, just kind of an alcoholic. Of course, he'll probably drink some of that wacky green formula, because I don't think he'd dare attack Peter with the strength of a mere mortal. But yeah, it's just black clothing and gear. It's neither GG or HG per se.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Thanks Abominate

    by ProfGriffin

    That's too bad. It would have been cool to have Harry (drunk and high as a kite) in the "silly" Green Goblin costume like his old man.

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 10:23 a.m. CST

    By the way...

    by Ribbons

    I hear 'V for Vendetta' is about aliens. ;-)

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Stunt bank trucks...

    by abominate

    ...remove the spaces in the link and enjoy a look BTS at second unit Spidey 3 in Cleveland. Note the battle damage, the "sand" in the trucks, the bags of play sand.. http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=1508712232450827364&hl=en

  • Nov. 16, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    looks fake to me

    by Bishop6

    still plasticine??

  • Nov. 17, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    what did i miss?

    by mrbong

    erm, you all know what Venom looks like, and you know Sam Raimi is keeping very loyal to the original artwork with the Spidey series. you also all know that there will be another trailer in Feb or March, and that the film is out in May. what's the fuss?

  • Nov. 18, 2006, 3:34 p.m. CST

    mrbong

    by Ribbons

    No 2 seconds of Venom in trailer = Flames on Optimus! The mob has spoken!

  • Nov. 20, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST

    So is this still online anywhere?

    by minderbinder

    I guess I missed it.