Nov. 9, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
Jeebus Christmas, wasn't that movie long enough already?
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:13 p.m. CST
Aisheee!!! Wayyy unnecessary.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST
been waiting for this for a bit
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:14 p.m. CST
But seriously folks..
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:15 p.m. CST
to get my paws on this!!!!
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:19 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST
Does it ever explain how they got Kong back to the States, or were they joking when a long time ago they said that they would explain that decades-old mystery???
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:23 p.m. CST
by georges garvaren
I ever walked out on and I've seen a lot of freaking movies. Kong wasn’t the worst film I've (mostly) seen but after three hours and no emotional connection to any single character, I had enough. My Father however swears this is his favorite movie so, yeah, there's that going for it. Glad to see you're reviewing DVDs again Harry, even if they are ones I'll never buy or watch or think of watching or brake for if I saw them crossing the street.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:27 p.m. CST
you lost, take a breather, see how it plays out and get back to us in a year or two.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:27 p.m. CST
I want to speak to the bastard studio executives who shaved PJ's masterpiece down until it was left at a piddly 180 minutes. I'm just not sure this new edition is sufficient, though. I really wanted at least 4.5 hours of getting to know the characters on the ship before we got to any of the main action set pieces. And the introduction of Kong should not, by any means, come any sooner than the 16-hour mark. That way when we get to the Kong/T-Rex battle (preferably around Disc 17 of 56) we really have a strong grasp on the geography of the island, making the impact of the scene that much greater. Finally, I would hope for a minimum of 3 discs devoted to end credits, giving proper shout-outs to everyone who ever indirectly contributed to the budget of the film by clicking through to one of the pop-up DVD ads on the Universal website.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:29 p.m. CST
by C Legion
STOP CREAMING OVER EVERY FILM YOU REVIEW! This is absurd, he should have lopped off an hour of this overblown, self indulgent nonsense, not add more bloody stuff.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST
I knew there was a reason I was waiting.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST
I waited to get Kong on DVD for this edition, sounds like I made the right choice. The length isn't a problem at all for me; personally I felt like I was getting my money's worth and more, and I could've been immersed in Jackson's beautiful world for 3 more hours. All the haters can go watch themselves one of the many personality-free MTV-style quick cut 90-minute creature features that studios churn out every few weeks, but I'll take the one with the ambition, scope, and personality, thank you very much.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST
Occasionally it's a glorious mess -- but a mess nevertheless.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:39 p.m. CST
Looking forward to a day off work on release day to sit through the whole kaboodle. Maybe even the commentaries (why no mention of these, Harry?)
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:57 p.m. CST
You's a regular poet.
Nov. 9, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST
Odysseus, if you are going to make a statement like “Occasionally it's a glorious mess”, please explain to us how it is a mess. You don't sound pretentious enough to really make your point. You must understand that to really be a know-it-all-Kevin-Smith-wants-to-beat-you-smart-ass-talk-backer, you really need to back up your comments with some alliteration on why. Then and only then, will people all of a sudden go, “Oh, he’s right, I must now disparage it to sound smarter.”
Nov. 9, 2006, 6 p.m. CST
PJ drank too much of his own Hobbit-flavored Kool-Aid on King Kong. Hey Harry- I just watched David Lynch's three-hour opus INLAND EMPIRE. That went by quicker than this goliath piece of monkey shit. And this DVD is longer? ZZzzZZZZZzZZ
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST
by El Scorcho
you stupid fat fuck.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:06 p.m. CST
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST
by El Scorcho
The extended cut probably lasts longer than Harry's marriage will.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST
And it's a classic. The theatrical cut of this is TWICE that, and is anything but. (I still think it's why HALO got shelved.) The lack of self-control is dripping from this film. The last half hour is golden, even with the ice capades crap...90% of the Skull island stuff is dull, and looks like crap. We won't even talk about the first hour where the character bits that could fill one scene fill three.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST
Seriously. Like 7 minutes? That's not very "extended" and if it's only 7 minutes, why'd they even cut it in the first place? It might've given the audience something they could actually like about KK.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:12 p.m. CST
This movie needed to be shortened, not extended.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST
Did someone's favorite Congressman get his ass handed to him? Lets hope there's some more punching dinosaurs (because that made sense). Overall, it was a pretty good movie with a few noticeable flaws. Although Jackson's relative success with Rings gives him some leeway remaking a great film. At the very least, I like the fact the guy took risks.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST
I really hope there's at least one measly shot of Venom in the new Spidey trailer. If not, I'll cry. <P> If not, blame Pelosi. Can't Arnie fire her somehow?
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:12 p.m. CST
by R.C. the "Wise"
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:13 p.m. CST
6hrs of the movie in Blu-Ray disc come on Petey, made it happen I know you can do it.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST
that really sank the pace in the original to no real effect. Or a real stretch of a reference.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:18 p.m. CST
First the Cheerleader on Heroes, now I have this in my head. Thanks a lot, Harry...
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:27 p.m. CST
and you've got hairy paws to boot? Father Gene did not look kindly upon you.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:33 p.m. CST
God, that was the worst remake since Texas Chainbay.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST
A bit irritating that it's coming out as the theatrical cut on HD-DVD the same day as this extended cut on regular DVD. Not sure which one appeals to me more. Sucks to buy the standard def version... but that's probably going to be my choice.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:51 p.m. CST
But only if they also removed Jimmy the Cabin boy. That, or add things that actually make him a relevant character. Seriously, how much time did the film spend with him at the beginning only to throw him out halfway through. He's totally irrelevant and a waste of screen time. I like Peter Jackson, but it's obvious that this film needed someone to tell him what was too much. Maybe if they'd put it off for a few more months he would've seen the films (rather tremendous) flaws and edited the damn thing down.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:50 p.m. CST
Not extended. PJ needs to lose about 25 minutes + of the original. Cut Jimmy out completely. PLEASE! And yes. We get it. Kong will save her when she falls. Over and over he'll rescue her. By the end of the movie, I WANTED her to fall to her death. Stupid Implausible Scene #7: A barrage of gunfire is NOT going to mess up a steel ladder bolted to the side of a building.
Nov. 9, 2006, 6:58 p.m. CST
by Deadwood Dan
...or the fact that Harry would say it played shorter like LOTR. Yes, agreed the extended cuts were way better than the theatrical cuts for that trilogy, but this was needed like I need an asshole on my elbow.
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:06 p.m. CST
...think Harry just had a minro heart attack...maybe that's a daily occurence for him. Dude lose some weight. morbidly obese isn't cool...it'll be www.aintitdead.com soon
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:25 p.m. CST
I mean, I love me some LOTR, but goddamn. Sitting through that movie was like sitting through church. 15 minutes of inspiratational material, followed by 2 1/2 obligational fucking boredom.
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:27 p.m. CST
This movie was already too long.
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:30 p.m. CST
by Liberty Valance
If ever there was a film in need of a "phantom edit" it's this one. There's a great 2 1/4 hour movie in there somewhere. Someone needs to sit PJ down before his next film and tell him, "Peter, you're an immensely creative filmmaker, but for fuck's sake ENOUGH WITH THE SLOW MOTION ALREADY!" Cut all the amateurish slo-mo out of Kong and you shorten the movie by half an hour right there. Seriously, film school students know better...
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:33 p.m. CST
I just love the fact that the neocons took it in the ass. Just sayin is all. And I cant wait to get my hands on this DVD.
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:41 p.m. CST
I thought the release version of King Kong was *nearly* perfect...though I should say that the OG Kong was the first film (just slightly before Infra Man which was 30 seconds before Star Wars)that really turned my imagination on. I guess I'm biased, though...I loved almost every frame of all 3 extended cuts of the LOTR...I just have a boner for filmmakers who take the chance of making a LONG AS HELL film and just wring the fuck out of it. Like the extended edition of Kingdom of Heaven...the release version was great, but the extended cut was FUCKING BRILLIANT! Maybe I'm just a dweeb for extended cuts...
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:43 p.m. CST
Great! Is it called the "Peter Jackson is overrated" Edition!". Or the "I can only make remakes and adaptations" Edition!
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:44 p.m. CST
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:45 p.m. CST
by half vader
Yes, you people are very clever.
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:50 p.m. CST
RIIGGGHHTTTTT...I'm not gonna insult your intelligence, I don't even know you. HOWEVER...I will insult your taste if you are either a neocon (and dont get me wrong, Im a republican)or didn't like King Kong. AND, everyone knows that IQ isn't a very good measure of one's intelligence. But, just for grins, mine's high as FUCK. I'm smart as TEN MOTHERFUCKERS. Thats why I'm not a religous zealot, or a blind patriot. I earned my patriot stripes by serving 6 years as an infantryman in the 5th of the 9th Infantry (Manchu, bitches) and the 1st of the 17th infantry, doing tours in Serbia\Hersegovina, Iraq and Guantanemo Bay. I've had discussions on the nature of liberty and democracy with General Shali Kashveeli (I have no idea if that s how you spell his name)and put my ass on the line NUMEROUS times so fuckwads like you can be tricked into supporting near sighted ultra conservatives with no discernable abiity to lead a country in peace OR in war. Just like a neocon fuckwit to equate a political opinion and the enjoyment of a film with intelligence.
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:51 p.m. CST
I enjoyed this remake. C'mon its better then that other king kong remake. I believe the scenes that are added are important, but he could have cut some of the damn googly eyes between Kong and whats her name(brain fart sorry). That would take a way about an hour of very unneeded material. Then this film would be much better. Also could cut the retarded running between the dinosaurs thing. Some very bad CGI. I miss the days of stop motion and model work. Oh and Harry I am with you on yesterday. Very cool day. Even though I almost hate Democrats as much as Republicans. But I guess its a pick between the lesser of two weveals.
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:52 p.m. CST
Nuff said, beechez
Nov. 9, 2006, 7:56 p.m. CST
Hmm, so by the way your telling it intelligent people swear a lot and say fuckwads, motherfucker, and so on and so on. Rigghhhhttttt....you sir are no where near any discernable form of intelligence.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:01 p.m. CST
by THE KNIGHT
How long till the peter jackson hate commences... Oh wait, i'm late...
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:02 p.m. CST
Im intelligent as balls and I cuss ALOT...its fun. It gets a rise out of people. I LOVE THAT SHIT. Respond...dance puppet, dance
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:05 p.m. CST
He needs to go back to the days of DEAD ALIVE. Would love to see him do something like that again. Even though I thought KING KONG was decent enough to enjoy, I am tired of these PJ wanabe epics. Back to the old days PJ.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:10 p.m. CST
Kong was an hour too long as it was. What a terribly bloated borefest.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:12 p.m. CST
No point in fighting. I do agree with you on extended cuts. Enjoy them very much. Glad to see that post way up there.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:39 p.m. CST
WORST FUCKING FILM EVER! I WANT MY 3 HOURS BACK
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:42 p.m. CST
Especially LOTR. And I'm very much looking forward to that new cut of Blade Runner. But Kong just had too much fat. I'm not saying it's bad too add things to it, I'm only saying that first there's a good deal of things to be taken out.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:46 p.m. CST
That was "to," not "too," and that last bit would be better as "there's a great many things that need to be taken out." Why do I feel the need to correct marginally incorrect grammar on an AICN talkback, acknowledged by Penny-Arcade as the "Bottom of the internet barrel?" Because I've simply got nothing better to do, sad as that is.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:54 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
people like you really intrigue me...let me get this straight...you hated fellowship of the ring. you thought it was a load of garbage..so much so infact that one year later you went back for two towers....you hate that as well so hey why not give it another year and head straightback to see another 3 hour film which you already know you are going to hate?? you spend over 9 hours wasting your time on films you hate. i understand seeing FOTR and hating it..fair enough.I can also kind of understand hating FOTR but giving TTT a chance as maybe it gets better..but you hated it... by then you surely would have learnt your leason and stayed the fuck away from ROTK...you obviously have waaayyyy to much time on your hands..If I saw film ..part one of three and fucking hated it and I knew there were going to be 2 more 3+ hour sequels directed by the same guy...made by the same crew and cast at the same time personally that would probably give me quite a clear indication I am not going to like them so I wouldn't waste a further 6+hours on the fucking things. nor would i then spend the next 5 years taking every chance to let everyone know how much I hated them. I would move on. lifes too short.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:57 p.m. CST
by Neo Technic
Not so much Kong. I side with whoever said they'd only watch this again if Naomi Watts is naked. Cool for all you who loved/ liked the movie though, I guess.
Nov. 9, 2006, 8:59 p.m. CST
by half vader
Jimmy running Hanna-Barbera style in mid-air after the ground has fallen away under his feet. Actually, no CG in the film is anywhere near as bad as fuckin' Jimmy full stop.
Nov. 9, 2006, 9:02 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
why is that? because it didn't make a trillion squillion dollars??only a measly 500 mill..pyep, i guess jackson is all over...i mean he was coming off the back of having made a trilogy that made close to 3 billion dollars?yep I guess jacksons over...I mean no one is going to want to let him make a film again...seriously if singer can get superman returns 2 made I am pretty sure jackson will get another film. I personally think if jackson was actually directing halo it would still be happening....
Nov. 9, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST
by Anakin Whoopass
Source material for 683-minute The Lord of the Rings film trilogy: 1,216 page novel. Source material for 201-minute King Kong film: 104-minute film. Do the math.
Nov. 9, 2006, 9:48 p.m. CST
Seriously, every talkback I’ve read seems to consist only of raw, unbridled, hatred for everything. What is wrong with you people? Maybe you didn't like King Kong or Superman Returns or AVP or etc. and that's fine. But you people don't just not like something; you hate with maniacal passion as though these movies are so bad they cause you physical pain. If you hate movies so much why do you keep watching them? And is it necessary to viciously insult anyone who dares to actually like something? And has anyone else noticed that the people who hate Superman Returns hate it for very contradictory reasons? They usually complain that Brandon Routh is too skinny to be Superman and that the movie had too much romance and not enough action. Then in the same breath they compare it to the greatness of the original Christopher Reeve Superman movies. Routh is almost exactly the same size as Reeve! And the first Superman movie didn’t have that much action either, just a lot of romance in the form of Lois composing pointless poetry. Do you people hate things just for hatred’s sake? And yes, I liked AVP which clearly means I’m an ignorant, tasteless, and horrible person, and everyone should hate me and my points are all immediately invalidated because I haven’t the intelligence to form a coherent thought.
Nov. 9, 2006, 9:49 p.m. CST
With the success of LOTR, Jackson could have done ANYTHING. And I'm talking a "George Lucas" level of 'anything'! Kong was a wasted effort. Sure, the effects are great and I liked how Kong is more of a character in this film, but practically 100% of the non-Kong footage is Gili quality 'bad'. Even some of the Kong footage is overdone (Triple T-Rex Tango, anyone?) Then there is the fact that it's performance was lackluster, to say the least (anyone remember the Titanic-busting predictions?). Jackson blew his wad all over the faces of the studio and the movie-going public with this one. Now he's going bukakke with the "Extended Edition". Guess that's where all his excess weight vanished to)
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:10 p.m. CST
by half vader
For God's sake. I guess I wasn't being overtly sarcastic enough back there with the "This film is bad because it's long". Lawrence of Arabia, Dr. Zhivago, 2001, Spartacus, 7 Samurai, Ran, Das Boot, Gone with the Wind (I actually don't like it like most but it's not boring), Ben Hur, Once upon a time in America, Last Emperor, Schindler's List, Amadeus, Master and Commander... ______________The length/timing of the movie has fuck-all to do with whether the film's any good or even boring. Your source material justification is ridiculous. How many animated ficks have been made from fairy tales? What about movies based on short stories and novellas? Notice that in those examples up there I included films based on extremely limited premises or scenarios, so I wasn't just using epics either.
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:21 p.m. CST
by Bazka Berzerker
My biggest problem with KK was that PJ sacrificed story and character for action. The film has a huge amount of CGI creature action, but it's repetitive, and often doesn't drive the story forward in any way. It's there just to fill the space. Obviously the raft scene doesn't mean jack's shit to the story, because it was cut away. On the other hand, the story is full of character and story build-up's with no payoff. And paoffs without build-up. Like who the black sailor and his young protegee are built and built, with no fucking payoff EVER. That subplot simply doesn't go anywhere. On the other hand we have the slimy coward actor, who suddenly at some points turns out to be a heroic good guy after all, with no build-up in any way. It's a payoff which comes out of nowhere, and isn't earned in any way. The film is filled with unfocused crap like that. I did like the film, because all the scenes with Kong himself clicked very well, and the three leads were likeable. But man, what a mess of a movie it is.
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:29 p.m. CST
by The Brewhammer
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
I don't understand the hate here towards it. it is totally over the top - in fact I don't believe half of you actually believe the a shit you write anyway. it's like there is a weird competition to see who can out hate each other.this is the only site where the hate reaches such ridiculous levels....
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:48 p.m. CST
on this website, I totally agree. It always devolved into screaming neanderthals. That doesn't make this movie good. Oh, and just to stir up some shit, Superman Returns is one of the three best comic films ever made, and Sin City is a nearly unwatchable piece of garbage (albeit an interesting experiment).
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST
The grammar is consistently terrible, as illustrated by every post I make. I should really proofread this shit. Why can't we edit our posts?
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:53 p.m. CST
There's probably people on this website who would say something dumb, get called out on it, and then change their post and say it never happened. Y'know, the same people with all the unreasoning hatred towards anything and everything. (Please keep in mind that I felt King Kong was a mess of a film)
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:53 p.m. CST
by Alonzo Mosely
A damn impressive sight, but in the end it just very long and flacid and of no real use to anyone...
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:57 p.m. CST
So those people that have no interest or just plain hate this movie have nothing better to do with there time then sit around spending more time bashing the movie in question then it would take to sit and watch the film itself....?? I for one think this movie was great and can't wait to get the new cut.
Nov. 9, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST
by Alonzo Mosely
The edit function is being saved for the extended director's edition of Aint It Cool... Which is why I can't add the word "is" and correctly spell "flaccid".
Nov. 9, 2006, 11:28 p.m. CST
by The Ender
Seriously fill me in you cunts..
Nov. 10, 2006, 12:09 a.m. CST
I'm not even reading this article. Screw this DVD release & screw this movie. We all know you love the original KK, and I respect that you have some kind of personal relationship with the filmmaker. But this movie is, was and always will be a steaming pile of crap.
Nov. 10, 2006, 12:10 a.m. CST
...that I have been a PJ fan since Heavenly Creatures. KK was a vanity piece for him and that's exactly how it comes across.
Nov. 10, 2006, 12:49 a.m. CST
by Neo Technic
Is that she dumped K Fed ass over a text message and then went on Lettermen with no ring. She then went partying in clebration of her pending divorce. K-Fed wants custody of the kids so he can get money payments, but probably won't because everoyne with half a brain hates him. Britney has only 1/3 of a brain, thats why it took her this long to realize he's a douche. Yes I know too much, but I hate his wigger ass more than Vanilla Ass... I mean Ice. This relates to King Kong in that a giant monkey fell in love with some wannabe actress who sort of showed affection back. Hopefully K-Fed will follow after KK and fall off a building after being declared a public menace.
Nov. 10, 2006, 1:41 a.m. CST
Well.... is there? :-)
Nov. 10, 2006, 2:29 a.m. CST
I heard it's awesome. Basically it's Naomi hugging Kong's giant ape cock and moving up and down on it until she gets doused in a fountain of ape semen! Adrian Brody watches from behind some bushes and wacks himself off during the love scene. I also heard of another cut scene with that annoying peg boy smuck Jimmy, who pleads to be sodomized by the token black guy. The token black guy smacks the shit out of him and tells Jimmy that he's a "goddamned faggot fuck."
Nov. 10, 2006, 2:51 a.m. CST
People moaning about a lack of realism in a flick about a GIANT FUCKING MONKEY. You want realism, watch the Discovery channel Wnanahara7. Alternativley, if you don't like the idea of an extended cut of the movie, simply don't buy it, controversial I know, but try it. 'This is a film that didnt need to be made', name me one film that NEEDS to be made in the larger scheme of things, it's entertainment for fucks sake, not a historical document. Jesus.
Nov. 10, 2006, 3:37 a.m. CST
I´m just adding my voice to all who thought it was too long. No need to extend it. Make it shorter! I will even buy a shorter version with less Jimmy and the rest of the worthless crew.
Nov. 10, 2006, 3:51 a.m. CST
so, what's the average age here? 16? Maybe 19? Once you jagoffs can grow up past the point of using middle school terms like"suck monkey balls" and making longing referrences to Naomi Watts appearing naked, then--and maybe then--you could be considered worthy of deconstructing an incredible movie from a master craftsman such as this. Perhaps I don't understand the language of a forum because I'm very new to this. But I get the feeling it's brimming with opinions stemming from the malcontent brains of 8th graders. When are you people truly pleased with a movie? Probably never, I'd be willing to guess. One Dinosaur would have been enough you say? If Peter Jackson had put any fewer than 2 dinosaurs, you'd bitch(and so would I--we all saw the cinematic yawn that was Jurassic Park 3). The Brontosaurus stampede looked fake, you say? Well please give me an example of exactly what in the fuck actually looks real in these post-Lucas days of CGI-saturated action sequences? You know what looked real? The flying wing sequence in Raiders of the Lost Ark. You know why? Because it was real. They had a plane and actually blew it up. Real. Sadly, due to the shortage of actual Brontosauruses on hand today, in order to create one, or nine, we're forced to resort to CGI. Sucks, don't it? But guess what? It's not real. So, naturally, it won't ever look 100% real. But it can look pretty damned good. So, please, will one nerd come forward and explain to me how--exactly--Peter Jackson fucked the whole scene up? And, honestly, I don't want to hear from anyone unless they have years of experience in Digital Effects, Sound Editing, Image rendering, or filmaking. So, anyone? Anyone? Not that movie critics are the final word on movies, but for the record, a good majority of the most esteemed critics we've got absolutely loved this movie. And in case some of you aren't aware of the difference between your ankle-biting, and paid film critics' actual critiquing, it's this: They get quoted on movie posters--you guys shaped and molded Snakes on a Plane. There's a lesson in humility here, but one that I don't expect will resonate with very many of you. By the way, Naomi Watts' tits can be seen in Mullholland Drive(shhh!). Happy jerking, boys. I hope the movie's not "too long" for ya!
Nov. 10, 2006, 4:02 a.m. CST
by Talkbacker with no name
A real making off documentary! Love or hate the movie, the making of it will be fucking interesting! I held off on buying the first edtion due to it only having the post production diaries (which i watched on the net at the time). Can't wait to get this for all the 'proper' extras. <p> oh and we live in an age now where you could do your own cut of Kong on your computer if you really want a shorter version.
Nov. 10, 2006, 4:03 a.m. CST
by Franklin T Marmoset
I have to admire the attitude of this Peter Jackson. Here he is with a film that most seem to think is a little too long, and what does he do about it? He's got an even longer version, right here for you, buddy! That's some punk rock spirit right there.
Nov. 10, 2006, 4:18 a.m. CST
by Talkbacker with no name
Sad to say but very true. <p>"People out there, sad geeks in here. Weesa all talking shit and no life. Whena yousa thinking we are in trouble?"
Nov. 10, 2006, 4:27 a.m. CST
I loved the movie but found the green screen work severely rushed and downright ugly.
Nov. 10, 2006, 5:29 a.m. CST
by El Borak
kill it before it breeds. and i have all the lotr extended eds.
Nov. 10, 2006, 5:43 a.m. CST
Nov. 10, 2006, 6:46 a.m. CST
I was hesitant about picking this up, however if "Action" has been added, count me in. I still plan on starting the film when the raft hits skull island, everything before that moves at a glacial pace.
Nov. 10, 2006, 7:28 a.m. CST
Home Run. Cheers :)
Nov. 10, 2006, 7:32 a.m. CST
Nov. 10, 2006, 7:44 a.m. CST
by Spandau Belly
So much characterization was sacrificed in the theatrical cut, especially Posh's story arc. But maybe they'll handle that in 'Spice Girls Rising: The Begining'
Nov. 10, 2006, 8:21 a.m. CST
United 93, Miami Vice, The Departed. I'm expecting The Prestige to be good, probably Casino Royale too. Superman Returns was awful. Absolute utter shit. How anyone can defend it renders me speechless. King Kong was ok, but a real mess. The poster above was dead on about getting in an editor. If it had been better structured at around 2 hours it would have been a massive hit.
Nov. 10, 2006, 8:23 a.m. CST
by Steve T
Can I get a shortened version where the kid and Serkis's character have all their pointless crap edited out? Yes, I know he should have got an oscar for Gollum, but that doesn't mean we have to have a waste of time character added in! Too much self-indulgence on Jackson's part! Winebot: 1. your use of language was every bit as childish as the peopel you were berating. 2. the problem with the stampede wasn't the CGI, that was fine, it was the blue screening. The actors and the dinosaurs didn't look convincing together, dragging you out of the illusion.
Nov. 10, 2006, 9 a.m. CST
All for the low price of $200. Plus MS will throw a media remote. Too bad Peter Jackson's King Kong is overbloated and shallow. The line "beauty killed the beast" is the worst line of the movie. It does not make sense. Mr. Denham killed the beast, not Kong's jungle love for the girl.
Nov. 10, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST
I was thinking about renting the DVD to beat off to. Has anyone seen it? What is its spank-worthiness?
Nov. 10, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST
=self-important pretentious bitter jackass. Not that I don't think that Jackson's King Kong wasn't an over-long misfire that truly didn't need or deserve an extended edition. Just sayin'.
Nov. 10, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST
My question is still going to be WHERE THE HELL WERE KONG'S NADS???!!!??? he should have had a sac the size of a Jetta swinging down there!! Are we to believe that Kong was a eunuk? or worse... A kastrati?
Nov. 10, 2006, 9:54 a.m. CST
....just like "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" needs more footage.
Nov. 10, 2006, 9:57 a.m. CST
Seriously guys Jackson's Kong was utterly awful. Why still talk about it? Make The Hobbit Peter, stick with what you're good at.
Nov. 10, 2006, 11:10 a.m. CST
I hope he takes you up on that offer and cracks ur fuckin head open.
Nov. 10, 2006, 12:02 p.m. CST
by Spandau Belly
I think this DVD reissue would have a shot at having even stupider and tackier packaging potential than that Matrix set with the cheap plastic draws and the ugly pointless bust of Neo. C'mon team, let's make it happen!
Nov. 10, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST
I actually started to watch KK today on a dodgy DVD I bought in Bangladesh - I remembered it as being a tad too long at the cinema but ultimately there was some great action and I enjoyed it. But watching it again i just started getting annoyed at all the pointless stuff involving Roger the Cabin Boy and that Heart of Darkness pap - this could easily have been sacrificed without losing any of the film's heart. A running time of 2h 30m MAX would have been easily achievable, preferable even shorter than that. The fact is that no-one thought of telling Jackson this and the result is it feels wholly self-indulgent. In case you're wondering, I ended up falling asleep at the point where they reached the island and didn't bother finishing the rest of the film. Oh and despite the fact it was a dodgy DVD the quality was rather good.
Nov. 10, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST
Ok some people didn't like the movie, some people thought it was too long, but calling any movie a flop when it made $549 before dvd sales and rentals is retarded. The figures are from reliable sources, they are not figures I have imagined. Then take the $100 in dvd sales and $38 in rental sales, then the tv showing revenue and burger king tie-in deal and you're still insisting the movie was a flop ??? Then the fact it is the fourth highest grossing film in Universals history. Ok I'm biased, I loved the film, and can't wait for the extended edition which i'm sure will enrich the film in the same way as the Lord Of The Rings dvds did for me. By all means argue about the films artisitic merits and feel free to say you didn't enjoy the film, that is your right. But fill the site with inaccurate drivel saying it was a flop and say the majority of people who saw the film didn't like it, and I will come to its defence every time and correct you.
Nov. 10, 2006, 1:18 p.m. CST
by Lone Fox
'Ooh look! Real actual living dinosaurs! We're gonna be rich!' 'Fuck that. Check out that big monkey! Ka-ching!' Priorities, priorities. I'll watch it for the D. I mean, Jack Black.
Nov. 10, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST
so therefore I for one will be renting this. The more creature features in it, the more Kong smashing troops and such, the more I likee.
Nov. 10, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST
The worst thing about PJ's film is its satirical mocking attitude, personified in J. Black's character which is the center of the film. All the pot shots at Titanic, Other Films, and even cheap shots at Kong33 make PJ's film more of a lampoon than an epic. There was simply to much asinine about it. The film despises its own characters. J. Black's character is certainly presented to be despised; Brody the big nosed bookworm is mocked; Ann the vapid costume wearer is slighted; Kong the King is reduced to a savage; what's his name the Actor is despized; all actors/actresses are mocked in the mirror and by broad implication; all studio execs are hated; the military is despised... PJ's film simply has a bitter hateful attitude toward everybody in the film. It should be titled, "PJ's let me tell you how I hate all of you Film." Great films, such as the original Kong and Titanic, and most Best Picture winners are very sincere films, and they do not spew hatred bitterness and venom. PJ's film was just too toxic. Howard Shore's score was the heart and soul of lotr. I would like to see an Editor's Cut of Kong05 with a score by Howard Shore and all the satire taken out.
Nov. 10, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST
i like peter jackson. i love the lotr movies and i thought dead alive was brilliant. BUT king kong just wasnt good. people complain it was too long and the reason it felt so long was bc the acting was really bad. pj especially in this film has a problem of hammering a point over and over again. every1 talks about the "jimmy you got to go to school" bit which was fuckin comical how bad that was. and then even worse was jack black. every scene we get reminded how bad he is (keeps filming, says corny line etc.) now ive only seen the movie once but i remember walking out thinking what an average movie that was. one final point... a movie loses all credibility when theres hints of beastiality. just like planets of the apes
Nov. 10, 2006, 1:59 p.m. CST
There are only two words needed to describe most of the world's instant reaction to this news - "Fuck" and "that!". <p>That is all.
Nov. 10, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST
theyre just so articulate. I'm not american but I can tell you this- the rest of the world has breathed a sigh of relief. You make us proud. Well Done America! *King Kong was such a terrible letdown...beautiful effects, but strangely unaffecting....see what I did there? ; )* hmmm okay time to drink.
Nov. 10, 2006, 3:25 p.m. CST
This is a Peter Jackson KK talkback! So far I've seen only ONE mention of George Lucas but NO mention whatsoever of Star Wars! What the fuck! Sure, there's KK hate, but where's the real vitriol I've come to expect and hate/love? The pointless franchise wars? The idiotic box office nitpicking? The aspersions cast upon all and sundry regarding body weight, sexual inexperience, cellar-dwelling and soda-guzzling? You call this a PJ talkback? My grandma would have put up a more spirited, venomous and pointless debate than you feebs! Where's Ringy? Tom "boogaloo" Bodet? MinusPenith? Come on, you apes, this isn't like 2002 when we had Lucas and Jackson TBs almost every week! Use this opportunity well! More hate! Kudos, however, to über-predator-geek Yautja for trying to inject some AvP into the proceedings.
Nov. 10, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST
... and I am gratified to see it. In fact, there is a lot of genuine loathing ! I am deeply, sincerely, truly happy on this day. Back during Kong I felt like an outcast in a sea of happy idiots, but now I see that the community has caught up with me. My job is done, Jackson is toast.
Nov. 10, 2006, 4:12 p.m. CST
...Ringy-poo has made a belated, gloating appearance in this TB, allow me to perform an AICN community service. Lest anyone new to these fetid talkback catacombs mistakenly assume that Ringy is a voice of reason in this matter, I will provide a nine-page -- yes, NINE-PAGE -- review of PJ's KK written by Ringwearer9 back when he was called Ringbearer9. Fearing his imminent banning, I took it upon myself to preserve his insanity in written form. Not wishing to be banned myself for overloading this TB (an action which has caused others to be banned), I will provide Ringy's review of KK for those who are interested. Either post your e-mail addresses here or seek me out in the zone and I will send you Ringy's nitpicking epic of lunacy.
Nov. 10, 2006, 5:03 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
However, it took you much longer to get here than I expected. Are you feeling OK? You're not getting lazy on us are you? Be that as it may, I suppose your personal circle of lunacy is now complete with the arrival of this DVD. Therefore, I eagerly await your thoughtful (but insane) follow-up dissertation on PJ's decision to use the actual COLOR OF FIRE for the CGI flames shown in "KK".
Nov. 10, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
... have just never heard of ol' Ringy, Bodet, MinusPenith, or GingerTwat. Hate and lunacy were reveled in during their time. For that was when a man was a man and a troll was a troll!!! Alas...no more. I fear the days of that former TalkBack gloriousness have fallen into shadow.
Nov. 10, 2006, 5:22 p.m. CST
When I saw the movie I was filming an independent movie with my friends (check it out at www.downhillthemovie.com!) and was filming 20 hours a day and fell asleep during the first hour of the movie. I woke up right about the time they get to skull island and if that's where you come in, it's a great movie.
Nov. 10, 2006, 5:26 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
you really nailed me with your frightfully witty comeback. A sodomy joke!! awesome stuff truly awesome. I love how many of you seem to sit at you computers just waiting for the very mention of this film so you can crack the same old jokes and say the same old shit. I love it!! I love ringwearer the best though. talk about dedication to the cause. yep..jacksons toast alright. I mean how can anyones career get back on track once the AICN boards turn on you. I mean at the end of the day you guys are the deciders as W would put. you guys are twirling entire universes in your hands and deciding the fates of peoples careers with your intelligent comments. Oh and harysuxafatone you almost got it right except I prefer to have the dunces hat actually inserted in me whilst wiseblood makes sweet sweet love to me.
Nov. 10, 2006, 5:48 p.m. CST
OK, by all means make a 3 hour epic flick, but for the love of fucking fuck write a script that isn't so amateur, pathetic and ridiculous. As people have said, the characters had no payoff (why spend so much time with the Venture crew characters and then take them nowhere), a lot of it was incoherent or forced (they got Jack/Ann relationship so so wrong, you just couldn't give a fuck about Brody's character). The final line 'it was beauty killed the beast' is more like a *what??* moment because Jack Black's Denham has zero payoff so it makes ZERO sense for him to say that line when he's still just a bastard and...fucking hell I can't be fucked to go on. There's no-one to root for apart from Kong. Kong IS the best thing about the movie (apart from the AMAZING work on 1933 NYC). Peter's direction is SOLID, but the script is CRAP.
Nov. 10, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
But it's good to see you make a cameo.
Nov. 10, 2006, 8:02 p.m. CST
I thought given its shown at the beginng we would get to see Kong attack the overground rail train.
Nov. 10, 2006, 8:03 p.m. CST
I thought given its shown at the start of the movie, we would get to see Kong attack the overground rail train.
Nov. 10, 2006, 8:26 p.m. CST
Since they can't do the nude pyramid thing anymore, Gitmo administrators need a different, yet legally acceptable, version of cruel and unusual torture to break the terrorist spirits. Thanks a bundle for this extended cut of King Kong, Peter Jackson! "Its not an adventure story, is it Mr. Hayes?" "No, Jimmy..."
Nov. 10, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST
Quite literally - the 'scene' with the brontosaurus stampede was utter garbage and made me want to leave the theatre the treadmill was soooo obvious. Aside from that - FUCK the actors egos and 'need' for 'rounded' characters. THIS IS PETER JACKSON FOR FUCK'S SAKE - REMEMBER THE LINE 'I KICK ARSE FOR THE LORD' (Brain Dead). Where's the ol' spunk ferchristsakes..? His films are becoming egotistical bloated nonsense and the whole Rings Trilogy gave me about 1/50th of the excitement i derived from that first ever viewing of Bad Taste. He obviously loves movies but someone should take his budget away and make him go back to working on a shoestring. Then we might just get to see the 'frying pan in the face' brilliance that was Brain Dead yet again.
Nov. 10, 2006, 9:24 p.m. CST
...It'll blow you minds. Film of the year thus far and no word of a lie. It is his masterpiece and make the entire world realise that Mr.Meadows is possibly the finest director in cinema today.
Nov. 10, 2006, 10:11 p.m. CST
by Guy Gaduois
into an environ of escapist fare? Somewhere, during Harry's perfect day, someone's Mom threw away a comic book collection, someone else's dog got hit by a car and most every geek on this website did not get laid. But onward and inward -Rub your crotch in glee, but remember some kids' seahorses just got flushed somewhere. And by bringing up elections, you invite flare ups that will make us who just come to enjoy and escape into entertainment want to eat nails. I sure hope they made Kong skate longer. That didn't make my ass pucker nearly enough. Another twenty minutes of that would be GREAT. I also hope they digitally enhance Brody's Schnozz. Also hoping Ted Kennedy takes out Pelosi for a congratulatory dinner and romantic midnight drive. You made me say it.
Nov. 10, 2006, 10:39 p.m. CST
For all of you who complained about the "overlong" scenes in New York and aboard the ship, I have this to say: Aside for characterization reasons, this was Peter Jacksons way of building up to the island a'la Steven Speilberg--keep the audience waiting. Don't blow your wad early on. I felt it worked wonderfully, as I was honestly not bored but rather taken in by the characters. The romantic chemistry between Jack and Ann was not intended to be the focal relationship of the film--that designation went to Kong and Ann. And it was an element completely missing from the '33 original and made the movie truly great. As for the complaints of the green-screening during the bronto stampede--who cares? Overall, it still looked magnificent, and you have to admit the final part when they all tumbled was kick-ass in a huge way. The whole sequence exploded with energy. Nit picking the finer points of the green screen quality is missing the point. And as for the length of the film overall, I for once agreed with Roger Ebert when he said that for all the movie gave you, at that point it would really just be complaining of too much of a good thing. And a very, very good thing indeed.
Nov. 10, 2006, 10:57 p.m. CST
Just like 'roid-ragers Gorillas actually suffer from a spectacularly disproportionate genital size imbalance, (unlike me of course, I'm huge, but then I don't work out either, look it's one or the other ladies). So the reason why you couldn't find Kong's copy of Balzac while you were jogshuffling the DVD is because it was tiny shrunken and tucked away.
Nov. 11, 2006, 3:07 a.m. CST
Nov. 11, 2006, 4:27 a.m. CST
You fucking plant. "The romantic chemistry between Jack and Ann was not intended to be the focal relationship of the film--that designation went to Kong and Ann. And it was an element completely missing from the '33 original and made the movie truly great" Are you kidding me? That was right out of the publicity handbook for the theatrical release.
Nov. 11, 2006, 7:25 a.m. CST
but it sounded like you said they put that in instead of the big-ass face-sucking worms. Is the bug scene still in there? (It sounds like everything else including the kitchen sink must be.)
Nov. 11, 2006, 2:32 p.m. CST
First, what stands out in his mind, enough so he starts the review with it, it the fact that disc one is placed in an inconveniently inobvious way, making him think it was missing at first. Harry shows the most excitement in his review for this moment, WHICH HAPPENED BEFORE HE WATCHED THE DVD! This indicates that nothing on the DVD reaches the same level of excitement for Harry. He says there are more character moments that paint Denham as "MERELY an exploitation bastard" (emphasis mine),and as he said in his original review, he prefers the 1930's Denham, so I can't see how more of this was a plus for him. He says the raft sequence is "genuinely great" but doesn't hint as to why. He didn't bother listening to the directors commentary, and loves the gag reel mainly for some bit in it involving himself. Obviously Harry is as unenthusiastic about this extended cut as he was about the original theatrical version. Caveat Emptor.
Nov. 11, 2006, 5:39 p.m. CST
by Henry Fool
I think Denham was just as loathsome in the original film. The only difference is that the original filmakers tried to make Denham likable out of ignorance. His motives were just as morally ambiguous. But in 1933 people didn't have nearly as much respect for the concept of animal exploitation. The film, while a classic, was just as naive about its recognition of animals as creatures that deserve respect as it was racially stereotypical (It's a very racist film. That doesn't mean its not worth seeing. Disney's Song of the South contains a buttload of racial stereotypes but is still a classic if you view it in the context of the times it was made). King Kong was, in retrospect, easier to swallow a guy like Denham. By recognizing Denham's narcissistic shallowness and contrasting it with his desire to capture something 'real', Jackson actually milked a good dramatic performance out of Jack Black, who's normally at his best when he's playing comedically over the top characters (actually, he's fucking brilliant at it). The remake was too long to begin with, but I've been a rabid Jackson fan ever since Heavenly Creatures so I'm looking forward to the extended cut. Harry is correct that the extended versions of Lord of the Rings are better than the theatrical cuts and I hope that end up agreeing with him on this version...
Nov. 11, 2006, 7:01 p.m. CST
Kong was a well conceived film but poorly executed one. I could definitely see Peter's love of the original in it but I also feel that led to him not wanting to let go of it which caused it to bore alot of people with unnecessary bullshit.
Nov. 11, 2006, 11:22 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
you are fucking insane. can you give us an insight into what you do in between jackson articles on this site....it seems that you live for them. I used to get annoyed with you and just think you were another internet dick like myself but I have to hand it to you. your hate knows no bounds and you stick to your guns. bless.
Nov. 12, 2006, 1:14 a.m. CST
Well, I'll take that as a compliment that I'm sooo well spoken and eloquent that I could possibly be mistaken for a plant. Well, in fact, I just happen to adore this film and resent the undue backlash which should be directed at other, more deserving movies. Maybe it's just more fun for some people to criticize greatness. I loved, loved, loved, every inch of this film, and I know I'm not alone. I think some of you ought to go pick on something on your own level. Is Joss Whedon still working?
Nov. 12, 2006, 1:22 a.m. CST
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Nov. 12, 2006, 11:15 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
i don't understand the level of hatred that the people on these boards have for this film. there are much more deserving targets of this kind of nastiness. i happen to love the film too though so of course I am going defne it....when you get as big and as successful as jackson did with LOTR there is going to be backlash. but fuck me if it hasn't reached ridiculous levels on here. you would think that after its release jackson went door to door having sex with everyones parents the way people are carrying on. I do find it funny when people claim that jacksons career is over. lets face it..kong was nowhere near a career ender...If singer can get a second superman then jacksons career will be absolutely fine.