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SPIDER-MAN 3 designs? Venom? Sandman? Green Goblin 2.0? - Yup, but now they're gone!

Published at:  Nov 06, 2006 8:11:31 PM CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Now, consider these pics given to us by a source calling himself "Jubba" as rumor. It's even possible it's fan art, but I think it may be legit. On a certain level. The below images look to me like video game designs and if my hunch is right, then these will be very close to what we'll see in SPIDER-MAN 3. We can confirm that Harry Osborne will look like the below thanks to the trailer and I can vouch for his swords on his back from the rough footage they showed at Comic-Con.



And if this is what Venom looks like in the film count me one excited geek. The raised webbing looks so great on him, so veiny and gross... If this is indeed a preview of what to expect the Venom design in the film to look like, then I can forgive the raised webbing on Spidey's black suit.



Enjoy, squirts... while it's up. I'll take it as undeniable confirmation that these designs are legit if we're "asked" to remove the pics, so enjoy them while you can!



SADLY - the images were removed at the request of SONY. As those of you who saw them could tell - they were EARLY versions of characters and not the final goodness, but just the mere fact that SONY asked us to take them down means.... they were pretty close. --- Harry




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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:02:28 PM CST

    Love the Venom Design. Not so sure about Goblin...

    by -=shin=-

    he looks more like the old Rocket Racer character colored in green. I did hear that Harry wouldn't actually 'become' the goblin in the fullest sense. Still, seems if you're going to have Harry make an appearance in gear, he out to be the Goblin.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:02:35 PM CST

    Looks Cool

    by dreamisover

    Hopefully we will see more from the new trailer on Thursday

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:03:35 PM CST

    Green Goblin Jr.

    by mr. n

    Looks like a punk.
    And First!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:03:47 PM CST

    First!

    by theatomiccow

    Maybe. Hey It's my first time doing it so give me a break.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:05:38 PM CST

    FAKE!! Wait... REAL!!!

    by richard j. kimble

    Where's Mysterio?

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:07:17 PM CST

    i like them

    by waggy

    venom looks great of course, and we already knew sandman did, leaving only GG2 in question. i know there's gonna be a ton of fanboy whining, but i think he looks in line with a lot of classic spidey villains like the beetle and the shocker. definitely a step up from the first movie.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:07:58 PM CST

    looks too good to be real

    by satansteve

    love venom, but i believe it's fake.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:08:48 PM CST

    That being said...

    by theatomiccow

    The designs aren't bad. Love Venom. Especially the big-ass white spider. Sandman's kinda hard to fuck up but he looks great too. Goblin II looks lame, but fits the younger Harry character from the films. I can see him designing that. The snowboard glider is hard to get over though.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:08:49 PM CST

    Goblin looks like a snowboarding Power Ranger.

    by darth bauer

  • Nov 06, 2006 7:09:05 PM CST

    I hope GG2 looks better on

    by thetalentedmrbond

    I hope GG2 looks better on film; I wasn't crazy about GG1, but this guy looks like a cross between a paramilitary and a snowboarder.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:09:23 PM CST

    Damn.

    by theatomiccow

    Wasn't first after all. Should have known.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:10:17 PM CST

    Actually Goblin looks like a variant Robin action fig

    by darth bauer

    Yikesier.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:10:21 PM CST

    The Green Goblin looks okay

    by chorleyfm

    certainly better than that of the first film, but how hard would it be to just add a little hood on top of the mask.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:12:16 PM CST

    Best movie ever or biggest disappointment?

    by vansmack13

    There will be no in between for me. I am all geared up for this movie, especially since hollywood seems to be out of any type of orginal ideas lately with all the horrible movies they are making for a quick buck. I love everything I have seen so far from this movie and the teaser trailor is the best I have ever seen. Raised webbing???? So freaking what. We got over the organic webbing, they have done a great job with these movies so far and a few differences from the comics is fine by me as long as it works. Can't wait till Thursday for the new trailor!!!!!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:13:44 PM CST

    Sandman - boring villain, That Goblin...Oh dear.

    by no.6

    Why didnt they do the Lizard ?

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:20:48 PM CST

    A hoodie...

    by mistere

    A green hoodie would fit perfectly with that lame Goblin costume.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:21:18 PM CST

    Sandman has boobs?

    by bean_

    Venom looks sweet though!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:21:58 PM CST

    Good.Good.Crap.

    by thejake

    Venom looks sweet, I must say I was worried how it would come out. Sandman looks good. But Harry's snowboarding Gobby looks lame as all hell. Ah well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad right? Hopefully Gobby 2.0 will have very VERY little screen time anyway.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:24:46 PM CST

    Reptile Wins.

    by samuraisix

    Finish him!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:26:06 PM CST

    "I'm too old for this shit"

    by the knight

    Franco looks like an ass...

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:26:44 PM CST

    take those damn pictures down!

    by thebearovingian

    In Christ,
    Sony Pictures

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:26:50 PM CST

    Rocket Racer!

    by big bad clone

    I thought they wanted to show more of the face. As a "real life" costume itt sort of makes sense but just look at what Spider-Man is wearing. I think we are willing to suspend disbelief is they at least give us villians that look somewhat like the comic book version.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:31:21 PM CST

    I thought Harry was supposed to become Hobgoblin

    by s-mart shopper

    not green goblin 2, whatever...Venom looks great, Sandman is weak they should have had Carnage or the real Kingpin.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:32:13 PM CST

    If you zoom...

    by karmicrelief

    ...in on Venom's eye, invert and rotate 90 degrees counter-clockwise, you can see the image of a damned Michael Bay.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:34:38 PM CST

    Harry is.......Rocket Racer?

    by mattcg

    That is so lame I think I just went impotent.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:37:05 PM CST

    Carnage? Fuck that.

    by dogsoup

    "Real" Kingpin? MCD was the kingpin. He was more Kingpin than Afflek was DD or JGar was Elektra. You can't have Carnage while introducing Venom that's retarded. Harry look fucking lame though. The Power Ranger ref was spot on. Venom...it's all about the Venom.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:38:06 PM CST

    This is fan art

    by james418

    The toy proto-types that showed up on the web a few weeks ago represent the actual Venom design.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:38:36 PM CST

    Goblin!! TO THE EXTREEEMMMEE!!!

    by modlight

    I'd be worried if I didn't love everything about these movies so far.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:39:01 PM CST

    Why does Green Goblin 2 look like a ninja?

    by trysop

    Isn't it obvious??? Green Goblin 2 looks like a ninja because he as to fight two ninjas - venom and black-costumed spidey!

    ****************http://theanimeblog.com/

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:40:54 PM CST

    just THANK GOD they ditched that Goblin 1.0

    by bruticus

    That first mask was so bad, it came across as a powerranger costume. It made spiderman look bad sitting beside him, beaten by him. That first Green Goblin was the WORST thing about the first movie. And seeing it at the end of the second movie scared me for the fate of the third movie aswell. just THANK GOD it's not in part 3.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:42:05 PM CST

    Well, we don't seem to have been asked to remove them..

    by angelinasoilboy

    So my interest has somewhat bruce wayned...

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:43:31 PM CST

    The Goblin is a hidden character in SSX Tricky?

    by orionsangels

    Either that or a GIJOE Action Figure called 'Snowblower'

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:47:01 PM CST

    Looks like Goblin is riding on a Mach 3 razor

    by orionsangels

  • Nov 06, 2006 7:51:00 PM CST

    SAM KNOWS I'M RIGHT!!!

    by shermdawg

    Hidden face... teaser image... clouds... *sigh*...

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:52:40 PM CST

    Nosferatu Jone's Question

    by j jonah_jameson

    The symbiote gave Spider-man that look becuase subconsiously he was immitating Spider-woman's costume.

    See what happens when movie makers are worried about "explaining things" so much in a fantasy world and making them "realistic"? We can see by your question it just leads to more confusion.

    Every costume is great except Harrys. That is not the Green Goblin and the first Green Goblin was a better costume to me. Atleast he had his glider. :(

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:54:52 PM CST

    Goblin suit's OK...if they fight during the half-pipe

    by spyguy

    "Spider-Duuuuude, did you catch that 540 I just pulled while hurling the pumpkin-bombs? At first I was like 'Whoa,' then you were like 'WHOA,' then we were like 'WHOOOOOOOOOA!'"

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:56:06 PM CST

    Green Goblin?

    by nodwick

    In his never ending vendetta against Spider-Man, he has undertaken years of training in Snowboard/Paintball-fu! Seriously, man, dude needs "WTF" on his chest and "LOL" on his back. And what's with the machete on his back?

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  • Nov 06, 2006 7:58:35 PM CST

    said it before, i'll say it again...

    by savagexp

    It is totally Bagley's Venom.

    Also -- Green Goblin totally looks like Kenji from Mortal Kombat.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:03:11 PM CST

    Venom has a mangina

    by bluebottle

    wtf is up with his crotch? it makes me tingly in a confusing way. really confusing.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:07:37 PM CST

    Goblin

    by shaw

    Get that kid a green hoodie and his dad's glider. Then we'd be in business.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:07:39 PM CST

    better than venom with the lips from a few weeks ago

    by carpemundus

    i hope thats what we end up seeing next summer. that action figure they had on here looked like yesterdays garbage

    www.carpemundus.com

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:13:54 PM CST

    Spidey 4?

    by shaw

    Is this definitely the last one?

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:13:58 PM CST

    Wow, caught them at the last sec

    by chrth

    I look forward to seeing GG2 in the X-Games

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:14:00 PM CST

    I feel honored

    by wolfman57

    I usually miss out on seeing cool shit like this but I actually saw the picture this time. That GG2 looks terrible by the way. It looks like it was designed with an action figure in mind.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:26:32 PM CST

    My 6 year old likes the GG2 costume...

    by big bad clone

    but he also likes it when the dog eats out of the cat's little box. So his taste is questionable.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:28:20 PM CST

    first!!

    by chipps

    dammit, missed out. I bet it was never there anyway. It's all just a hoax

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:33:47 PM CST

    Maybe...

    by nodwick

    What if the GG 2.0 gets really messed up or something? I could live with that. Have something happen that either disfigures his face or makes him don a tattered cloak or... well, anything to make him look more like the lunatic GG we know from the comics.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:35:08 PM CST

    Mirrors?

    by topaz4206

    C'mon, some brave soul, imageshack this

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:36:10 PM CST

    wtf

    by landster

    jesus god almighty these people are quick to act.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:38:07 PM CST

    White Spider

    by the only woj

    no way will they use the white spider. doesn't make sense that this substance would generate some giant white spider for no reason.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:42:37 PM CST

    Mirror links

    by milak83

    [URL="http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ggsk5.jpg"][IMG]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8392/ggsk5.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    [URL="http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssrn9.jpg"][IMG]http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7447/ssrn9.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    [URL="http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vvmt4.jpg"][IMG]http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3362/vvmt4.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:47:02 PM CST

    Dammit! Missed em'!

    by m b r

    Spidey 3 is easily my most anticipated movie of next year.
    http://tinyurl.com/wcgnt

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:48:11 PM CST

    green goblin 2

    by jccalhoun

    Radical to the extreme!Venom looks pretty cool though.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:54:13 PM CST

    FOR THOSE THAT MISSED THEM

    by milak83


    GG
    http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8392/ggsk5.jpg

    SANDMAN
    http://img54.imageshack.us/i mg54/7447/ssrn9.jpg

    VENOM
    http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3362/vvmt4.jpg

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  • Nov 06, 2006 8:55:27 PM CST

    PERFECT VENOM!! DAMN!!

    by kudos_eb

    hehehe i wasnt expecting that, if it looks like that on the movie, then its just perfect, gg2 looks cool enough, radical- hell yeah!!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 9:01:07 PM CST

    Not removed here: http://tinyurl.com/ym24zy

    by all your base

  • Nov 06, 2006 9:05:40 PM CST

    Green Goblin

    by ohdaesu

    looks like some bizarro Sam Fisher.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 9:06:19 PM CST

    holy shit, Venom's what we all want it to look like...

    by b0bafettish

    Which means it's too good to be true.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 9:18:14 PM CST

    oh my god

    by davidlyons

    venom has a camel toe.eeeuuurgghhh.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 9:23:40 PM CST

    DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!

    by bytor

    DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 9:41:41 PM CST

    The only thing the Green Goblin is missing..

    by ironmuskrat

    Is his corporate sponsorships from Redbull, Taco Bell and Thrasher magazine on his costume. Serious, Green Goblin has to be some kind of joke. A freaking flying snowboard? Venom looks good except for the huge vagina that others have pointed out. Sandman is well, Sandman.. the only bad guy that could have used a makeover gets nothing new,I guess black and green strips and a crew cut never go out of style.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 9:47:50 PM CST

    A MIRACLE!

    by mister inbetween

    That ridiculous GG2 design has accomplished the impossible! I no longer think the first movie's GG costume is the worst piece of shit aspect of the franchise.
    I predict that GG2 will die on the way back to his home planet a la Poochie...
    P-U.
    You're right to pull those pics SONY, and if it's too late to change the design, I hope you can get access to the time machine in the Vatican or spin around the earth a few times and fix that goofy ass focus group/ committee clusterfuck designed look.
    Damn!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 9:52:13 PM CST

    My first talkback in ages

    by leavittj1982

    Hey I just wanted to say that I love all of the designs. Updating GG2's vehicle to a board was a tasteful, respectful and intelligent touch. Truth be told, though, if I remember correctly, either the director of one of the producers or somebody else in charge said once that Harry wasn't going to become GG2; he was going to become someone brand new who had never even appeared in the comics. I say, go for it.
    My only complaint about Harry's suit has nothing to do with its style; it's similar to the same problem Batman faces: there's a huge part of his head just BEGGING to be targetted! Somebody get a helmet on that guy!
    As for a cape, that would look lame. I mean, would YOU what Harry's wearing, or would you wear that, plus a green cape?? That's pretty nerdy lol. Billions of dollars worth of technology at Harry's hands, and somebody complains that he needs to wear a USELESS piece of FABRIC. As for a hood, let's be honest: the thing would fly off lol.
    C'mon guys, let's be real :P

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:16:41 PM CST

    I guess I just don't understand the difficulty...

    by immortal_fish

    ...adapting the classic Gobbs costume. Spidey 1 came close enough. All that was missing was the purple tunic. A reason for the mask would have been nice too, like breathing out the 'sleeeeep' smoke. Lemme put it this way -- where did he pull his pumpkin bombs from? No satchel on his suit. A purple tunic would have answered that question as well as carry the faithful look. Hell, it's been said time and again that DaFoe already looks like the Goblin without makeup. Could have easily pulled a Jedi-ish hood-casting-shadow-over-face effect to drive the effect further.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:21:33 PM CST

    Why'd they make them take it down?

    by ctu mole

    It's not like they're not going to show the characters at some point before the movie's released. Why not get some feedback on the designs while they can still change them?

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:23:56 PM CST

    You know, I remember when this site...

    by omarthesnake

    ... stood for independence, when this site meant something, when this site was really rebellious and didn't bow to every studio's demand that... ah, who am i kidding? This site has always kissed the asses of whoever was willing to send Harry "pwesents" and jet him off to get rimjobs from Taiwanese prostitutes. Man, someone needs to start a web site that tells cool movie news. that would be sweet.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:35:53 PM CST

    re: You know, I remember when this site...

    by leavittj1982

    What are you talking about? This site was one of the things that damned Batman & Robin. Plus, Harry refused to post most anything at all on X3, and when he did he repeatedly slammed it.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:38:47 PM CST

    "SONY asked us to take them down"

    by theuglybaby

    Well now....Don't ya'll bend over and squeal like a pig when told to......

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:41:01 PM CST

    re:If you zoom...

    by boocherhix

    " ...in on Venom's eye, invert and rotate 90 degrees counter-clockwise, you can see the image of a damned Michael Bay. " KarmicRelief, I laughed so hard, I nearly peed.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:41:40 PM CST

    re:If you zoom...

    by boocherhix

    " ...in on Venom's eye, invert and rotate 90 degrees counter-clockwise, you can see the image of a damned Michael Bay. " KarmicRelief, I laughed so hard, I nearly peed.

    Anyone have links that still work for us losers?

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:53:55 PM CST

    About those pictures.......

    by yoda's ball sack

    Removed at the request of Sony.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:54:41 PM CST

    Still up at 11pm CST

    by thetagger

    http://tinyurl.com/ym24zy

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:56:40 PM CST

    Interesting

    by razorback

    Thanks for the info, Wananawhatever.

    Test.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 10:59:01 PM CST

    Thanks For the Mirrors

    by topaz4206

    Everyone that sent them in

    Looks good except of course gg2

    Cheers

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:04:38 PM CST

    no subject

    by vi

    http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ggsk5.jpg

    http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssrn9.jpg

    http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vvmt4.jpg

    Delete the spaces after you paste the URLs

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:06:25 PM CST

    Oh, and...

    by vi

    GG2 looks like he's riding a Motorola Razr... RAD!

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:07:24 PM CST

    but...

    by vi

    he's missing his paintball gun?

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:11:27 PM CST

    i'd like to say i called it.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    I emailed the GG2 surf board ages ago. And it was taken as a rumor, but it was taken with skeptability. Either way, I don't think the Goblin looks that bad, especially since Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con it's not really supposed to be GG2 or Hobgoblin, sort of different.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:19:08 PM CST

    milak83

    by sithmenace

    Thanks for the super sized pics, I wouldn't have seen them otherwise.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:20:57 PM CST

    Wnanahara7

    by sithmenace

    That's not really how it happened. In the original story (comics), GG1 threw Gwen Stacy off of a bridge. When Spider-man snagged her with his web, the force of her stopping suddenly snapped her neck. The car full of children was for the movie only.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:25:48 PM CST

    Everyone else

    by sithmenace

    If you freeze frame the trailer, you can see that Harry's costume looks exactly like the pic above. I'm pretty disappointed with this, but I felt the same way about the original GG costume until I saw him in action in the movie, then it definitely grew on me. Venom looks great, but I agree that they should have gone with the Lizard storyline that they started in Spidey 2. Sandman looks just like the comics though, very cool.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:28:15 PM CST

    no problem SithMenace :D

    by milak83

    no problem SithMenace :D

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:31:45 PM CST

    By the way

    by sithmenace

    Has anyone confirmed that the 4th villain will definitely be Mysterio? I haven't read anything offical about that, I was pretty sure it was just rumors...

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:39:10 PM CST

    vi rocks the links

    by reckni

    They look pretty good.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:43:31 PM CST

    Random Thoughts on the SPIDERMAN movies...

    by uberman

    Liked em, did not love em. A few things did not work for me: 1. The Green Goblin desin was friggin horrible and looks to get much, much worse in #3. 2. WHere was Sam Raimi the risk taker as a director? Where was the manic energy and crazy shots?? 3. Way to much faky CGI. Sorry, but it still looks like a video game to this geek. 4. How in the @)@*#&^ did spiderman balance a 100lb woman with one arm and a 30,000lb cable car in the other? I mean, it was like he was straining EQUALLY from both. Sorry-that was terrible beyond giving Raimi a pass for that one scen alone. 5. In #2, Spiderman gets heurt bangin head falling about 30 ft into an alley. And yet, HE CAN STOP A TRAIN WITH HIS FEET. Yes, he can stop a train, ripping through the tracks like they were toothpicks. This IS spiderman, right, and not the HULK or SUPERMAN, right? I mean, it is a comic, but at least play by the rules of your comic movie universe. If he can do what he does with a train, he is basically as powerful as Marvels THE HULK now, yet he gets knocked down by a punch in the face???? That to me just took me out of the whole movie. Stupic. Just lazy, stupid filmaking. Sorry, but BATMAN BEGINS and SUPERMAN RETURNS at least respect the limitations of their comic universe and play by those rules, not break them any time they get an idea just for the sake of a cool action peice. That SPIDERMAN did is bullshit.

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:55:25 PM CST

    I disagree with your analysis uberman

    by sto110

    so superman returns followed the rules huh....

    i guess him lifting the continent made of kryptonite was respecting his limitations....

    let me get this straight...its in the room with him lex can beat him up....but when he needs to throw a jinormous land mass into space made of kryptonite he can do it by willinghimself to

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  • Nov 06, 2006 11:59:17 PM CST

    Wnanahara7

    by sithmenace

    Well I'm going by the original books, from the late 60's/early 70's (not sure when it happened, late 60's I think), but there is definitely a possibility that somewhere else it happened the way your friend told you. It's just not the one I'm familiar with, or the original storyline. In general, I think alot of people were upset that MJ was brought in first in the movies, since GS was Peter's first girlfriend in the comics, with MJ introduced in the (I think) 70's. I don't know about other Spidey fans, but for me seeing MJ on the bridge with the GG created some cinematic tension, since she was in the exact same position GS was in when she died. I think it was a strange situation where they were able to amp up the suspense for the hardcore fans by using a familiar storyline with a different character, while also keeping the general audience in suspense. Good writing in my opinion. I think the movies are a great interpretation of the overall story, and the few changes they did make are ok with me.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:07:27 AM CST

    uberman

    by sithmenace

    I also disagree. It clearly showed that it took everything Spider-man had to stop that train, to the point where he passed out afterwards, where after he fell into the alley, from more like 150 feet, he was able to limp away. I think they did a great job portraying his powers in Spidey, where Superman was just an inconsistent mess.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:07:34 AM CST

    sto110

    by uberman

    I thought he was being drianed of power by the kyrptonite spike embeded in his side. It gets pulled out an 'viola' he is super again. At least thats how I remember it. Nothing caught my critical comic universe eye in Sups Return, but good lord, in the SPIDERMAN movies they butcher it time and time again.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:07:37 AM CST

    sto110

    by uberman

    I thought he was being drianed of power by the kyrptonite spike embeded in his side. It gets pulled out an 'viola' he is super again. At least thats how I remember it. Nothing caught my critical comic universe eye in Sups Return, but good lord, in the SPIDERMAN movies they butcher it time and time again.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:14:40 AM CST

    no, it has always been that

    by sto110

    no, it has always been that if superman is in the proximity of kryptonite he is weakened.

    moreover, i think it was a stretch to make him lift that into space, let alone a kryptonite version.

    in the movie he was pierced and recharged himself in the sun. but he was beaten down before he was stabbed because he was near the kryptonite

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:33:35 AM CST

    Question?

    by kabutokoji

    Why didn't Spider-man 2 have any action?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:06:52 AM CST

    KabutoKoji

    by sithmenace

    I thought Spider-Man 2 was the perfect balance of action, humor and character development. Doc ock in that movie is about to rip New York a new ass, but you feel sorry for him. That's a powerful piece of characterization. As far as action, you had the bank scene, which turned into the Aunt May kidnapping, the car chase (with the robbers), the deli scene, the entire train sequence, the clock tower and the finale. What more could you want?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:11:10 AM CST

    Design Stuff

    by capt. spaulding

    Yeah, gotta agree that whateverinthehell Harry Osborn's supposed to be looks kinda dorky. Venom looks badass, though.
    Also, I'm really surprised that there are people who didn't like Spider-Man 2, I thought it was better than the first. I mean, you could argue that Doc Ock was much more sympathetic than he was in the comics, but, on the whole I liked the movie. It's like I always tell people: the comic will alwys be cooler than the movie, if you accept this, you'll be much happier. What's important is that the movie's don't change what's important about the characters (i.e.: "Let's do Spider-Man, only, he'll be this deformed guy who lives in the sewer,and he's got eight arms and eats bugs and he was created by the Green Goblin, this ancient mystical monster..." etc etc etc).
    Just remember: it could be worse. It could be "Catwoman."

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:31:31 AM CST

    leaked pics

    by meowth49

    hey spider-man 2 was ridiculous. they introduced doc ock and he held almost no importance to the plot. he look and was done awesomely, but the film was just like an episode of young and the restless, the whole film was 2 hours of every character talking to every other character about how peter loves MJ with some useless action thrown in. thank god we have the alien symbiote and venom in this one. the pics look more like renderings for a spidey 3 game, most likely on xbox360 etc. but if this is what venom will look like then itll be awesome!

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:37:09 AM CST

    SithMenace...

    by kabutokoji

    Ya know what? You just delivered my point home. In most action films, it's immposible to count all the action sequences because there is usually one every five minutes and you have countless by the end. It's actually the ones that you go- errr, let's see you had this one scene here, and then that other one...those are the ones that terribly lack action. I like(don't love them--- cgi Spidey in action looks too cartoon-like, too video game graphics circa 1999) the Spidey films, but I remember seeing Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in the theater, and seeing people jumping several feet in the air and climbing walls, and jumping from ceiling to ceiling. I knew they were making Spidey 1 at the time and I thought-wow, look what they can do now. Spidey will be great-looking with all this wire action. It looks gravity-savy, organic and has a great flow to it. Sight. Instead they went with the Hanna Barbera Cartoon Hour. I was greatly dissapointed with that. Then almost no action in the second one. Oh, and the worst offence and sin of all. Why did they cast a 5 foot 3, waif, toothpick, so-white-as-snow-she's-almost-transparent girl, to play a character that in the comics is like 6 foot tall, has more curves than Malibu, and is basically the hottest woman alive in the world of the comics? Oh, and how come in the movies she's a serial dater? Much, much to dissapoint there. I won't say DAMN YOU SAM RAIMI! It's not THAAAAAT bad, and Spider-man 3 looks very promising. But at this point I will say. DAMN YOU JAMES CAMERON, WHERE DID YOU GO?... ... ... ... ... ... ...AND WHY?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:40:14 AM CST

    superman returns

    by therightclique

    are you so retarded? you don't recall superman going under the earth's crust to get the krypto continent WITH a layer of the earth underneath it, shielding him from the kryptonite? they did a pretty good job of making that obvious. strange that you would've missed that.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:47:44 AM CST

    Spidey 3 villians

    by therealwebby

    Damn i missed these, did anyone happen to copy them at all?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:52:34 AM CST

    scroll up therealwebby

    by milak83

    scroll up therealwebby

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  • Nov 07, 2006 2:14:29 AM CST

    Re: igotbigballs

    by lionbiu

    The fact that you can put down Spider-man 2 and 3 while defending X3 completely makes your point irrelevant.....even a dead rotting corpse could smell the shit that was xmen 3 and I hated the first two movies

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  • Nov 07, 2006 2:26:06 AM CST

    Bah! screw Sony. They're all over the internet already

    by orionsangels

    Imageshack, photobucket you name it!

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:35:10 AM CST

    KabutoKoji

    by sithmenace

    I see your point, some of the CGI from the first film doesn't hold up, but it works, and the second film is a major improvement. And those action scenes I mentioned aren't just a couple seconds here or there, the train scene alone is 15 minutes long. I'm a life long Spider-Man fan and I love the movies because they're pretty true to the characters. And it's because they're so grounded by the characters and not action heavy that they're great, they have a good balance. The comics are the same exact way, some issues are mostly action, some are mostly exposition, some half and half. I would have liked to have seen Cameron's version of the films, but only from an action point of view. I'm afraid if Cameron did them, we would have had a Dicaprio or Depp as Parker, Schwarzeneggeer as Ock, and Bill Paxton as Uncle Ben, and it wouldn't have worked at all. The casting in these films has been pretty much perfect. As far as the Dunst as Mary Jane issue goes, I always thought that it was a little ridiculous that the most beautiful woman in comics fell for Peter Parker the science nerd. If they had Rebecca Romijn in the movie falling for Tobey Maguire, who is the perfect Peter Parker by the way, it would not have been believable. I know, I know, it's a movie about a guy with spider powers, so who's talking believable? That's the thing, the relationships need to be believable so that the fantastic parts can work. I think it was a creative decision to cast Dunst, and a smart one at that. It's just too bad Tim Burton never got his shot at Superman.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:35:49 AM CST

    And here they all are together:

    by brendon

    And a little bit of info sharing what I know about them...

    http://tinyurl.com/y6rpun

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:53:49 AM CST

    venom= FUCKING AWSOME

    by hesh monster

    I can't wait to watch him beat the shit out of spidey.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:59:06 AM CST

    Just helping out!

    by redbox

    http://stuffdaddy.blogspot.com/

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  • Nov 07, 2006 4:38:30 AM CST

    therightclique, what the hell are you talking about?

    by raw_bean

    When Supes is carrying the landmass upwards, YOU CAN SEE THE KRYPTONITE GROWING OUT OF THE ROCK RIGHT NEXT TO AND ALL AROUND HIM! There was no 'layer of the earth's crust shielding him', he dived under it in order to get to the bottom of the kryptonite which had rooted and started growing from a crack in the seabed. I really enjoyed the film, but that scene was fairly lacking in consistency with the earlier bit where just being stood on that landmass allowed Lex Luthor to beat the crap out of him.On topic though, GG2 aside, those pics were cool, and since Spidey 2 was a step up from Spidey 1, I'm hopefull for a great film. Pity Singer left X-Men given that that was going the same way. At least X3 didn't blow quite as hard as I was worried it would.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 4:48:36 AM CST

    Venom

    by hedetoft

    Is it just me or is the does the "geek movies" just get better and better the darker they are?

    Batman Returns and Star Wars 3 anyone?

    André Hedetoft

    Geek Movie Director

    Join my Fan Club so that I get to make my next movie over at http://www.andrehedetoft.com

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  • Nov 07, 2006 5:09:43 AM CST

    its not GG2

    by obscura

    Raimi already said that hes not the green goblin, its just harry using the same tech to go after spidey. hes not the green goblin, or the hob goblin, its just Harry with weapons

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  • Nov 07, 2006 5:59:50 AM CST

    Damn you Michael Bay

    by mcmlxxvi

    Damn you Michael Bay

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  • Nov 07, 2006 6:54:07 AM CST

    ... Did they keep the Venom design?

    by freefinger

    That's good news finally... I like the webbing on the costume actually, not bad at all... It shows that Venom was part of Spidey for a while at least ('cause they kept the same red & blue costume and made it black when worn by Peter.. which sucked big time), but at least they went back closer to Venom's actual design. Sandman, if they messed that one up, they would've reaalllyyyy benn the biggest idiots of all time. A green shirt with black srtipes and a pair of pants... Now that big budget planning for your costume design... The Goblin design sucks... Why go all snowboard all of the sudden, I was hoping for a closer original goblin (comics not the plastic head movie) but I guess we can't win them all...

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  • Nov 07, 2006 6:57:35 AM CST

    therightclique....

    by freefinger

    You need to get yourself a new pair of glasses... Supes has the continent on top of him with kryptonite growing OUT of the BOTTOM WHERE HE IS, no "earth shield" as you mentionned.. so before telling off everyone, you should pay attention, get new glasses, and probably a new brains, I think the one you have as been recalled by the manufacturer "Dumbass Syndrome" they said...

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  • Nov 07, 2006 7:19:36 AM CST

    looks good

    by stvnhthr

    everything looks good but the green goblin. Have they ever seen the actual comic book Green Goblin? Didn't the fact everyone hated the version in the first movie clue them in on they should go more Ditko-ish and less Power Ranger looking? Venom on the other hand looks better than I could have hoped for.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 7:23:17 AM CST

    Damn

    by shaw

    I really did like the glider from the first one, wish they'd kept that at least.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 7:43:51 AM CST

    Finally got a look at the images...

    by childe roland

    ...and I'm impressed with both Venom and Sandman. Lil' Gobby does absolutely NOTHING for me, and I can only hope his screen time is minimal before soemone offs him.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 7:47:33 AM CST

    Wnanahara7 and SithMenace

    by andenu

    Gwen Stacy died the way sithmenace described it. maybe that other stuff is from the craptacular ultimate spider-man? also, mary jane was peter parker's girlfriend before gwen stacy in the original comic, though it never got "serious" (???) ...

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  • Nov 07, 2006 7:57:29 AM CST

    Seriously...

    by zarles

    ...how would most of you even know what a vagina looks like?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 8:03:21 AM CST

    SithMenace

    by fallingwithstyle

    too bad tim burton didnt get his shot at superman...?? yeah if you wanted a teleporting, non-flying supes with a translucent suit so we can see his internal organs, tim allen as brainiac and chris rock as jimmy olsen...those were his plans after all and sounds like a trainwreck waiting to happen if you ask me

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  • Nov 07, 2006 8:32:47 AM CST

    "Wasn't Doomsday made from

    by sto110

    "Wasn't Doomsday made from Kryptonite"


    uh no he wasnt made of kryptonite, he was made on krypton

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:05:33 AM CST

    What Transformers couldnt do

    by godzillasushi

    just make them look how they should. Stay close to the source material. Venom looks awesome, and it was simple. No one ever seems to get that you dont have to dramatically change something for a movie.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:12:11 AM CST

    goblin brain farts

    by dr.bulber

    thats the only logical explanation for these awful raimi goblins

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:21:19 AM CST

    about Mary Jane

    by captain rawbeard

    Kirsten Dunst was wrong for MaryJane, Someone like Clare Danes would have been better (and hotter)

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:23:52 AM CST

    VENOM!!!!!

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    thank the fuck christ they didnt fuck him up....actuallt really like him...well except that raimi once again made the eyes too small like he did with spidey...oh well...still looks absolutely awesome...

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:24:15 AM CST

    Zarles

    by captain rawbeard

    We know what a vagina looks like coz your mum showed us

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:40:52 AM CST

    therightclique

    by kal el vis

    For someone calling OTHERS retarded, are you forgetting Singerman still had a piece of Kryptonite IN HIS SIDE? How was he able to "re-charge", when he should have been dying from Kryptonite-poisoning? Then, he was able to SLOWLY lift NK into space while even MORE Kryptonite is growing all around him? Yeah, Singer REALLY followed his own "rules" in that film...

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:42:26 AM CST

    venom tonuge

    by foree forehead

    gahh! so stupid. venom was much cooler with just the thin smile. look at me, scary villain, i have a big tongue coz i'm EVIL! the white and black should've been the only colors the symbiote was able to use to generate alterations to the costume (e.g. eddie brock in priest outfit). flipples on baptimus etc.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:48:55 AM CST

    Superman Returns

    by nightwood

    was terrible. That's all.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:09:38 AM CST

    How about getting that HALO flick back on the move?!

    by jdanielp

    I want to see it worse than even Spider-man 3, dang it.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:10:50 AM CST

    Kal El Vis

    by vi

    Didn't Lois Lane pull the kryptonite out of him in the plane before he lifted the continent? I've only seen it once.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:11:56 AM CST

    Marvel & DC don't know their own characters

    by movietool

    Why should we expect these movies to be faithful? Spider-Man has revealed his identity to the world, Superman is married, Cyclops cheated on Jean Grey, Iron Man's a government stooge, Batman is throwing Alfred up against the wall of the Batcave and threatening to beat him up. I don't recognize any of these jerks as heroes, much less "superheroes." Bah, let the moviemakers do their worst - how much more damaging could it be than the actual comics nowadays? Oh, and Superman Returns sucked.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:12:22 AM CST

    Venom Costume

    by brit3424

    At least the symbiote suit is staying true to the comic books. The white spider symbol is because when spidey got the suit it was during the "secret wars". His red and blue suit got torn up, and his web shooters got messed up by Reed Richards. when spidey is getting his suit fixed, he accidently lets loose the symbiote. It's also explained that he bases his suit on the second spider-woman who has a similar black and white outfit. Goblin Does look similar to the rocket racer, and sandman looks alright. What about the mysterio rumors? are they legit? if they are they should put flames on him to make him look more modern (jk)!!!

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:13:31 AM CST

    Err...

    by jdanielp

    ...that is, I want to see a (good, if not great) HALO movie even MORE than another Spidey flick. Notice that I said, even MORE... 'cause I'm a big Spider-man fan, too. So, c'mon, Hollywood! --Have some common sense and make a huge HALO flick!

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:23:41 AM CST

    Vi

    by kal el vis

    Nope, she didn't get it all. When he is in the action-packed finale, laying in a hospital bed, the doctors pull a piece out of his side and drop it into a dish. I don't care HOW "heroic" people think it is, Superman should NOT be able to "ignore" the effects of Kryptonite INSIDE his body.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:31:05 AM CST

    I'm Jubba

    by jubba

    I post on talkbacks frequently---
    people should check the superherohype boards to see the pics, where they still are being posted rampantly or just go here: http://tinyurl.com/y6se2t

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:38:26 AM CST

    I saw Superman Returns. I was the SPIDY movies...

    by uberman

    and, I have no care either way which you all like. I just saw it and was pleasantly surpised and like it. Whereas in the Spidey movies I really thought the powers of the spiderman were inconsistant. Are Spidermans bones made of Titanium? They must be, otherwise they would have shattered on those train tracks. What that scen tells me is that, basically, this SPIDERMAN is indestructable, can do ANY feat based on the whim of the lazy plot. I expect in this one he will shoot lazers out his ass.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:38:30 AM CST

    I saw Superman Returns. I was the SPIDY movies...

    by uberman

    and, I have no care either way which you all like. I just saw it and was pleasantly surpised and like it. Whereas in the Spidey movies I really thought the powers of the spiderman were inconsistant. Are Spidermans bones made of Titanium? They must be, otherwise they would have shattered on those train tracks. What that scen tells me is that, basically, this SPIDERMAN is indestructable, can do ANY feat based on the whim of the lazy plot. I expect in this one he will shoot lazers out his ass.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:38:33 AM CST

    I saw Superman Returns. I was the SPIDY movies...

    by uberman

    and, I have no care either way which you all like. I just saw it and was pleasantly surpised and like it. Whereas in the Spidey movies I really thought the powers of the spiderman were inconsistant. Are Spidermans bones made of Titanium? They must be, otherwise they would have shattered on those train tracks. What that scen tells me is that, basically, this SPIDERMAN is indestructable, can do ANY feat based on the whim of the lazy plot. I expect in this one he will shoot lazers out his ass.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:47:38 AM CST

    uberman did you see Superman Returns?

    by jubba

    just press the button once....once!!!

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:52:33 AM CST

    I NEED TO MAKE FIND THE GUY WHO GIVEA BORAT BAD REVIEW

    by gutterofpolice420

    HE IS A PIECE OF SHIT LOOSER E MAIL ME AT SLIZZLE4200@HOTMAIL.COM IF YOU KNOW HIM. ME FEARS HE IS HOMOSEXUAL NOT FIND BORAT MOVIE FUNNY

    SMOKE

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:53:30 AM CST

    Uberman

    by kal el vis

    You were "pleasantly surprised" by Superman Returns? 'Nuff said there. And he DIDN'T stop the train with his feet, genius. He stopped it with his ARMS and his WEBBING. Your rant is ill-informed, as is your taste in movies.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:54:23 AM CST

    Superman Returns Kryptonite thing

    by acappellaman

    Lois removed the kryptonite shard from his back while they were in the helicopter, so Supes was able to heal. I can't explain how he was able to continue lifting the Krypto-continent with Kryptonite melting his hands, though. Maybe since it was just kryptonite-infused crystal it wasn't as toxic as pure kryptonite, perhaps? I dunno.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:57:15 AM CST

    superman just recharged

    by jubba

    he just got all super-high off our sweet sweet yellow sun and was all trippin' when he lifted a whole continent made of uber-kryptonite...that being said...once he lifts a continent, lifting a plane doesn't seem too impressive...beat that in "superman returns with a vengeance"

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  • Nov 07, 2006 10:57:16 AM CST

    Acappellaman is WRONG!!!

    by kal el vis

    Quote myself:
    "Nope, she didn't get it all. When he is in the action-packed finale, laying in a hospital bed, the doctors pull a piece out of his side and drop it into a dish."

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:06:04 AM CST

    Venom looks sweet...

    by skycrapper

    I would like to see the white squares on the hands but thats a minor gripe. They better not kill him off in this one.
    And Superman Returns is a perfect example of how to do a comic book movie wrong.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:27:27 AM CST

    Two out of three ain't bad.

    by rev_skarekroe

    But why is having a Green Goblin that looks like the Green Goblin anathema to these people?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:34:33 AM CST

    can we discuss a comic book adaptation

    by lost prophet

    without referring to shitman stalks? I've been arguing this all summer and am now, frankly, as bored by the argument as I was by the film. No-one ver changes their opinion(or even acknowledges another point of view). I am as bad as anyone for pedantically flaying that movie, but enough is enough. Having said that- Kal El Vis is right, he did still have a bit of kryptonite stuck in him. On a different note, does anyone remember "The Child Within" saga that ran in the 90's? If you insist on doing the whole osborne/ gg saga, then why not adapt that. I just hope they don't ruin my fond memories of the original Micheline (sp?)/ Mcfarlane Venom stories.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:39:36 AM CST

    Go Go Power Rangers!!!

    by greased deaf guy

    It's morphing time...

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:45:47 AM CST

    Superman Recharge thing...

    by frankenblogger

    I totally understood he was "recharged" by the sun. But I think it was a little far fetched that simply rising above the atmo would give him strengh enough to launch Krypto-Continent out into space before faux-dying. Fuck that. Supes should have flown INTO the sun and drank the Sun's core a la Popeye and his spinach. Then Supes would streak through space like a fucking comet and dive into Earth's ocean looking like a human red-hot poker and...er...does this sound a little gay?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:51:23 AM CST

    Frankenblogger

    by kal el vis

    Hey, it's no worse than what we got. But explain how he can do that with Kryptonite in his side??
    (it's funny 'cuz it's true...)

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:53:11 AM CST

    KAL EL VIS: Your logic is immpecable!!!

    by uberman

    So he stops the train with the webs. And the webs are attached to...what? If its his arms, then I must assume they were ripped off and then re-attached through some super duper surgery. And still, I always thought it was SPIDERMAN, not SPIDERSUPERMAN, as the SPIDERMAN i read as a kid could never of cracked train tracks like toothpicks beneath his feet. SUPERMAN could have, though, as that was in keeping with his character. Now go out and vote for your favorite Republican using that brilliant logical mind of yours. Word.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:57:12 AM CST

    I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT FOR THIS !!! AWESOME!

    by wolvenom

    The first meeting between spiderman and venom is going to be cinematic history. You won't be able to see spidey's expressions from under the mask but I'm sure they'll have him saying something like 'holy mother of god' or OH FUCK or oh god im fucked... cause this is going to be the scariest god damn villain ever to grace movie screens. I'm sure kids are going to be freaking out when this one comes to town.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:00:13 PM CST

    uberman, Your intelligence is non-existent!

    by kal el vis

    Spiderman has ALWAYS been shown to have a certain level of super-strength, jackass. I CAN believe Spiderman went "all-out" to stop the train, and it wiped him out. You saw him strain, you saw him in pain, you saw him pass-out due to the exertion of ALL of his strength. YOU can't seem to wrap your feeble mind around this. I, and everyone with a brain, CANNOT believe Superman can "ignore" the effects of Kryptonite. The SAME Kryptonite that made it so he couldn't even throw ONE punch at mere humans. You CAN. Says a lot about you, doesn't it?

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:19:04 PM CST

    here we go again.

    by lost prophet

    Can't resist it- the kryptonite in the arse was only one of the mariana trench sized plot holes in that abomination. It was lazy, stupid, piss poor, tedious, pretentious, portentious crap of the worst order. I was not a fan of spider man 2- but compared to the unmitigated shite we have been on the receiving end of (thank fuck for little chinese women selling pirated DVD's out of suitcases) this year it looks fucking great. I include X3 as a major fucking disappointment as well, I really struggle to think of a worse summer than this one. Hopefully next year will be better, but with the poorly conceived abortion that is Transformers on the horizon I doubt it. Please Mr. Raimi save summer 2007!

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:19:47 PM CST

    Ooh, a mother joke.

    by zarles

    Devastating. Kill yourself, you British piece of shit. Nice teeth.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 12:27:12 PM CST

    Plot Holes? In Singerman Peeps? NEVER!

    by kal el vis

    Yes, this summer has been one let-down after another. None as big as Singerman, but there are others. Next year SOUNDS promising, but then again, last year I thought the exact same thing....

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:13:13 PM CST

    So, SPIDERMAN passes out from the strain?

    by uberman

    The strain of.....(drum role please) STOPPING A TRAIN. Now, Kal, just answer this: What is the extent of Spidermans powers? Apparantly enough to stop a train. And a train weighs...what? How many thousand tons? And x that by its velocity...hmmm. Your right, Spiderman can do it, after all, he got BITE BY A SPIDER! Thats right, he has SPIDER STRENGTH! But, to show how hard that was, we see him exhausted on the train floor. Yep, that was a toughy. And in the 1st one, he has to deciede between balancing a 100lb woman in one hand, and a 30,000 ton box car in the other, and remember, BOTH ARE OF EQUAL STRAIN ON HIS FRAME. Yep, thats right, he has to choose one or the other. So, I guess what it comes down to is this: SPIDERMAN CAN DO ANYTHING THE PLOT REQUIRES. In the next one, I hear he gets shot by a anti-aircraft missle which bounces off his ass while he struggles to hold up the SEARS TOWERS in one hand while trying to keep from spilling his latte in the other. But dont worry, its plausable, because he breaks a sweat. For fiction to work, it has to 'suspend' disbelief. Now, Kal-El, Mel or whatever, start the name calling, nasty words, the F-you's, and the rest. I can take it. It bounces right off me due to my Uber powers. Word.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 1:28:10 PM CST

    uberman Returns!

    by kal el vis

    First off, way to disregard the hits you took in regards to Singerman Peeps. If you ingore it, it isn't there, right? Secondly, it was a COMBINATION of things that lead him to stopping the train. Did they show Spiderman jump down, say: "Fiendish train, you shall go no further!", place his hand out and stop the train? If they did, your ass-inine simplification would be correct. But they didn't, did they? Also, thanks for bringing up him holding a 30,000lb box car from the first movie. If he wasn't pretty strong to begin with, he wouldn't have been able to do that, would he? And "equal" strain? Watch the film again, Einstein. He was losing his grip on the CAR, not MJ. He had to strain to hold the car so she could climb down. Your hatred, and ignorance, clouds your memory. And since you ATTEMPTED to fire the first insult, don't even attempt to act as if you are being attacked. Moron.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 2:00:09 PM CST

    Forgive me.

    by leavittj1982

    I hope that this doesn't get me banned, but this might be the only way to get the point across to all of you:

    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sam Raimi said at Comic-Con that Harry becomes neither GG2 nor HGoblin, but uses his father's technology to go after Spider-Man.
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  • Nov 07, 2006 2:01:44 PM CST

    So...

    by leavittj1982

    Stop complaining that the designs look nothing like the comics!!! This character isn't IN the comics, so there's nothing to compare it to.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:11:04 PM CST

    How strong is Spiderman?

    by ironmuskrat

    I remember back in the Eighties Marvel came out with an encyclopedia that quantified the powers of it heroes, a mistake in my option, since it created canon, and that is always dangerous in the hands of nerds. Anyway if I remember correctly it stated that Spiderman could bench press 13 tons. 26,000 pounds ain't too shabby. however Spiderman has never been about him overpowering foes, it was his smarts and trickeration that help him beat the bad guys.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:33:55 PM CST

    Exactly, Iron Muskrat.

    by uberman

    Acording to the powers he has in the new movies, good lord, he should be able to 'literally vaporise' his foes with one punch. Why should he rely on smarts? The dude can stop a friggin train. Jesus, by that logic, he should have been able to crush the Green Goblins head like a paper cup. One kick to the groin of Doc Oc would have sent his leg right through the guys pelvis, said nards dangling from one bloody spidy sock.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:35:29 PM CST

    Hey Kal

    by uberman

    Your a little poopy face.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:38:43 PM CST

    why can't they make Hobgoblin?

    by norm3

    Instead of that dumb made whatever.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 3:40:05 PM CST

    Hey, uberman....

    by kal el vis

    "Your a little poopy face."

    Translation: You win,'cuz I got NOTHIN.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 4:12:59 PM CST

    Dr Eric Vornoff

    by kal el vis

    I concur with your diagnosis. uberman is CLEARLY an idiot.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 4:16:13 PM CST

    CLEARLY a moron...

    by kal el vis

    My mistake. But idiot or moron, it's all the same.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 4:18:11 PM CST

    gone

    by silent 1

    god damit I never got to see them

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  • Nov 07, 2006 4:18:15 PM CST

    venom design is good

    by gargolito

  • Nov 07, 2006 4:28:13 PM CST

    those images are not concepts from the movie....

    by deadpool51

    they are, I believe, for the video game. Venom does not have the big white spider that prominent in the film, he more represents the images that were on teh net a few weeks ago from sideshow collectable, where the whtie spider is tangles in his rasied webbing and alot thinner, not like the comic book white spider

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  • Nov 07, 2006 5:11:42 PM CST

    The Images Can Be Found...

    by monkeygod464

    Here!

    http://www.clubbedseal.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1619

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  • Nov 07, 2006 6:27:30 PM CST

    uberman

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    for fuck sake, it a well known fact that Spider-Man not only possess superhuman strength, but also superhuman INVULNERABILITY, i.e. being able to take the strain of the breaking train tracks and NOT getting his arms ripped off...what is DOESNT mean is that he is impervious to pain, thats why a punch to the face will still send him back a bit...and no this isnt an invention of the movies, its been in the comic since day 1....so if you still dont like it, then go find another movie, like the ungodly pretentious POS that was Superman Returns (Now theres a hero where they just make up powers for a movie....amnesia kiss my ASS!)

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  • Nov 07, 2006 7:33:32 PM CST

    Regarding GG v SM in SM1

    by leavittj1982

    Another reason why the Green Goblin proved to be a challenge to Spider-Man was that, at least in the movie, he was weilding the super human strength of the serum that he had taken earlier, as well as the additional super human strength given to him by his green [admittedly Power Ranger-ish] techno-armor.
    I'm not sure why the Green Goblin in the actual comics proved to be a worthy adversary to Spider-Man, however, since he was simply a mentally unstable man in tights and a cape riding a flying board-thing.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 8:42:13 PM CST

    Spidey and doc oct

    by pelos_locos

    One of the things that bothered me the most in SM2 is that when SM hits Dr. Oct the guy takes it. See, I agree with spiderman stopping the train. This is even supported in the comics of spiderman having superstrength ( and also accelerated healing, though not wolverine fast). However,....., Dr. Octopus is just a human and his super strength is in the artificial arms, not his human body. So when spider-man hits him in the face (this happens several times in the movie) Dr. Oct should have been KO with just one punch.
    And this is one of my main bothers about SM2.

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  • Nov 07, 2006 8:50:06 PM CST

    Yeah but Doc Ock was cool

    by shaw

    Mark it 8

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  • Nov 07, 2006 9:51:48 PM CST

    Image Mirror Here

    by littledudes

    http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/words-93

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  • Nov 07, 2006 11:40:42 PM CST

    Hey uly1234 and Darth Sidious...

    by kabutokoji

    *****MAJOR SPOILERS******
    Yup, Harry doesn't die early on. It is indeed a four way fight in the end with Harry helping Spidey, and actually sacrificing himself and dying to save his friend. You see MJ in black because she just attended Aunt May's funeral, who does die in the middle of the film...

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  • Nov 08, 2006 7:05:07 AM CST

    Images Are Here!

    by littledudes

    http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/words-93 buggered up the link before

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  • Nov 08, 2006 8:14:19 AM CST

    pelos locos

    by misnomer

    spider-man being the firendlier of the heroes deliberately "pulls his punches" so as not to kill anyone....its in the comics,but wasnt really explained in the movie...

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  • Nov 08, 2006 9:11:36 AM CST

    uly1234

    by kal el vis

    I approve of your message. It reeks of the truth.

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  • Nov 08, 2006 11:30:00 AM CST

    On Spidey's strength...

    by childe roland

    ...and relative invulnerability: I don't know where the Ultimate version has taken him, or really much of what's happened witht he mainstream character since 2000, but I can say that his strength as depicted in the comics has ranged anywhere from his being able to lift (with significant strain) two or three tons to his being listed as possessing superhuman strength allowing him to lift between 10 and 30 tons (sources for htis are the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe and the officially sanctioned TSR Marvel Superheroes role playing game). The discrepancy in his strength level was often attributed in comics to surges of adrenaline and his natural tendency to hold back when exerting against non-superpowered thugs (an outcropping of his great power/great responsibility hangup). As for his relative invulnerability, that's pretty unprecedented. He's always been depicted as plagued by typical physical maladies (including colds and bruised ribs). In the 90s I believe he was imbued with a Spider healing factor, which I never really got (I don't see a lot of the spiders I smush recovering from their injuries in record time), but which might explain his need to pass out and recuperate after the train incident in 2. As for that train, he tried to stop it multiple times with his webbing, which has been listed as possessing a tensile strength sufficient to restrain other marvel characters possessed of super strength within the 50-75 ton range. So it stands to reason that the trains forward momentum would've been slowed some by those attempts. Assuming that Spidey was in the throes of a Spider-strength enhanced adrenaline surge at the time he stopped the train (with the help of his flexible yet strong webbing), I think that feat's well within the pre-established "limits" of his powers demonstrated in other media. What made no sense to me was Aunt May, who should've shattered like the stem of a wine glass when dropped and caught on the side of the building during the post bank-robbery fight scene. That and it didn't really look like Spidey was pulling his punches when hitting Doc Ock, so I kept expecting Ock's head to come off.

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  • Nov 08, 2006 12:01:20 PM CST

    I love Superman Returns.

    by bubba gillman

    That's all I got.

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  • Nov 08, 2006 12:24:39 PM CST

    KEL MEL

    by uberman

    How about that? People disagreeing with you without resorting to calling you a fag, moron, idiot, asshole, without having to defend their really misguided and overwrought hatred by stating stating things like'Well, you started it FIRST (sounds like something a 1st grader would say, doesnt it?)', trying to demonize those who hold a valid counter view. No, the fact is that Spidys feats in the Raimi movies continue to defy logic. And, for this seasoned movie goer, SUPERMAN RETURNS was the better of the comic movies. That is all.

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  • Nov 08, 2006 12:24:44 PM CST

    KEL MEL

    by uberman

    How about that? People disagreeing with you without resorting to calling you a fag, moron, idiot, asshole, without having to defend their really misguided and overwrought hatred by stating stating things like'Well, you started it FIRST (sounds like something a 1st grader would say, doesnt it?)', trying to demonize those who hold a valid counter view. No, the fact is that Spidys feats in the Raimi movies continue to defy logic. And, for this seasoned movie goer, SUPERMAN RETURNS was the better of the comic movies. That is all.

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  • Nov 08, 2006 1:07:40 PM CST

    IT'S THE GODDAM ROCKET RACER

    by pipple

    Do they just love to rape the GG costume or what? I don't get it.

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  • Nov 08, 2006 1:22:35 PM CST

    Superman Returns was bad

    by lost prophet

    Deal with it. On another note, I am just hanging on for the MAN CATS, YB, their only obstacle in the path of justified world domination will be one ungodly sized hairball. Zarles, were you talking to me? if so- go fuck yourself. If not, sorry about that. I just don't remember using a mother joke.

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  • Nov 08, 2006 1:45:51 PM CST

    uberman

    by kal el vis

    Ohhh what whiney moron has returned from the depths of ignorance? Uberman! Who casts the first stone then attempts to back-peddle when holes are kicked into his paper-thin rantings? Uberman!Exactly WHO had a "valid counter view" on ANYTHING I said, numbnuts? Seems that by reading the preceeding posts, pretty much EVERYONE was agreeing with me, and pointing out how much of a moron you are? Reading, along with pretty much anything involving an ounce of intelligence, is definitely beyond your grasp. Also, judging by the box office numbers, your idiotic statement about the "seasoned movie-goer" and Singerman Peeps is EXTREMELY off-base. Anyone want to bet Spiderman 3 DOESN'T do more than $200 million domestic (in less than 8 weeks at that)? Anyone?

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  • Nov 08, 2006 1:59:56 PM CST

    harysuxafatone

    by kal el vis

    I agree. Spiderman 2 is one of those movies that is impressive at first, but EASILY forgettable. Singerman? So INFURIATING that you just can't get past it. Singer had EVERYTHING at his disposal, and THAT is what he came up with?

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  • Nov 08, 2006 8:55:59 PM CST

    Wow.

    by johncage

    Venom looks INCREDIBLE. I love what they've done with the character. They stayed really close to the comics, but added the right amount of movie-ness to him. Wow.

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