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Of STUDIO 60 1.7!!

Published at: Nov. 6, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!! “Studio 60” is back? FoxNews.com, I thought, cancelled this show two weeks ago. I’m not certain why, but Aaron Sorkin did makes heroes of liberals and Democrats on “The West Wing.” But maybe “Studio 60” continues to air, because an NBC exec subsequently explained that “Studio 60” remains profitable and “ranked fourth among all network shows in median income for the 18-to-49 demo at $66,000.” So FoxNews possibly messed up? The Canadians, who employ a different health-care system, report that a new episode aired in their nation, and the same installment heads to the United States on Monday. We begin with “1-Prime”: What’s it called? “Nevada Day, Part 1” Who’s responsible? Teleplay by Sorkin; Story by (Kid in the Hall!) Mark McKinney What does TV Guide say? Part 1 of 2. Members of the show's staff travel to Nevada to get Tom freed from jail in time for the Friday-night taping, but a judge (John Goodman) who doesn't particularly care for “Studio 60” complicates their mission. What else is TV Guide not telling us? 
 A lot of the actual summary above doesn’t really appear, it’s largely setup for next week where most of that will actually happen. Anyone have a lighter week than others? Timothy Busfield is MIA, though his name after the “Directed By” may indicate why. Usual argument: is the comedy funny? It’s no Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, but the addition of McKinney, someone with actual sketch chops (though arguably one of the weaker Kids), seems to have helped a little – except that even the improved bits have a smattering of Sorkin in the teleplay, which is to say a tad too telegraphed in the delivery. Plenty of enjoyable use of the Lord’s name in vain. Any nice growth in anyone as in the few eps previous? No obvious speechifying a la Harriet or Simon, but the nice thing is that these people are feeling even more fleshed, minus the background players of course, who it would be nice if they said something now and again. Matt still writing the whole thing by himself? Kinda. Black writer gets to peruse his stuff, and Lucy Davis is at least hanging around, but Ricky and Ron, and Brian from Gilmore Girls, and the dude from Mr. Show, and the guy who bit from an old script, are all strangely absent (unless they were background during rehearsal, but even if they were , they were out of focus in the bleachers). Occupying that writer’s room must be a pretty sweet gig. Any mentions of previous story twists? New writer shows up helping Matt; Jordan is dealing with promoting ‘Nations’, drawing Jack’s ire; Ed Asner is still trying to buy China, as is my understanding; and of course the continuing Harriet Hayes debacle (this time coming from a deliberately truncated quote on Page Six) is the flashpoint for the whole, y’know, plot. Any issues? The Christian thing sets the episode off, and John Goodman gives a nice counterpoint as the God-fearing, Hollywood wary Nevada judge. Harriet gets a dose of reality, but not really any payoff until next week I wager. What’s good? “Legal brothels?” “Why’re you looking at me?”; John Goodman using the teaser to tear the entire pretension of the show a new one … hell, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say John Goodman as a whole, and it’s only seven minutes in; the first real Perry/Whitford scene in aaaaaages; “…I’m pretty cold.”; how genuinely upset the Hollywood cops seemed to have to arrest Tom; “I don’t like dogs.” “…OK.”; “And the whole thing’s gonna be mimed.”; “Are you pitching me a sketch?”; “Seriously, is this a sketch?” “Where have you been?” “Breakfast!!”; Steven Weber; “Pahrump’s a funny name.” “Yeah.”; “Did you send assassins?”; some actual camaraderie coming through between the cast as a whole. N’est pas good? The buying China thing is eating up too much screen time; too long of a gap between Good(man)ness, a gap extending until next week apparently. I was an Amanda Peet defender when this whole thing started, but she’s starting to show as a weak link. And the whole thing feels stretched to give John Goodman two weeks in the promos, some bits felt like the wheels were spinning a tad. How are we left dangling? A large man ambles out of a Jeep and into a Nevada sheriff’s office. Rating for 1.07 (out of five) ***1/2 We conclude with “Josh,” who says: Hey Herc, me here (I sent in a For Your Consideration review earlier this year) up in Canada with a look at tonight's (or tomorrow's for USA) Studio 60, AKA "That Show That Nobody Watches (save for a few on the east and west coast). I don't *do* television reviews well so you'll have to make do. Tonight’s episode revolves around the arrest of Tom Jeter, a castmember on S60. Long story. No explanations needed. It's told in Flashback, but not overtly, and not with the lame "white-flash-and-then-we're-back-in-time!" style. It works. John Goodman guest judges as a judge, and he adds a mucho-needed spark. Tonight's episode will clearly be a love it or hate it episode. I've read too many complaints on the Christian-bashing nature of the show within a show, and I don't get the hatin. I've been with "Studio 60" since day one, and will continue to be so until it gets canned. Basically, the show within a show has a Jesus Christ sketch. Unlike a lot of the "hilarious sketches" we've been shown in the past, this one actually made me chuckle. This means that it will be hated by all. Sarah Paulson is given minimal screentime, but you feel for her character. There's a confrontation early in the episode which involves her and some aggravated gay men which I felt was really great. I don't have the memory to remember funny quotes even though I'm currently watching the show while typing this. Plenty of good banter tonight. Amanda Peet has screentime, and I felt she was appropriate, although lately she seems to be soley used to fill the "lady who makes bold choices for the network" quotient, rather than give her more of a story. The show is kind of slow half-way through, but picks up. I don't like how it's to be continued. **** (out of 5) 10 p.m. Monday. NBC.





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  • Nov. 6, 2006, 1:20 a.m. CST

    book it!

    by BadMrWonka

    I'm rushing home from my bowling league tomorrow night to hit up Heroes and this...oh, and if I get first, it will be the first (pun intended) time ever that someone that has read the whole article hs said...FIRST!!

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 1:22 a.m. CST

    oh man

    by BadMrWonka

    it was not meant to be...but hey, a month back I posted 20 first messages in a row in a talkback, and no one even commented...an AICN tradition is dying like the slow dinosaurs...

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Harriet

    by NedGump

    So...I hate the actress who plays her... I had thought Kristen Chenoweth would have been the better choice. But, it turns out that Harriet IS Kristen Chenoweth! Thats who the character is based on. Sorkin and Chenoweth had a thing, she went on the 700 club to promote her christen music CD...shes super into Jesus...so damn...the best actress for the role...and she wont even be on the show. Drats.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 1:25 a.m. CST

    never mind

    by BadMrWonka

    I'm first...the moron still spamming for that mediocre short film that everyone has already agreed is boring, does NOT count as a first...I'm first!!!!! (resisting temptation to link to my own short film)

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 1:28 a.m. CST

    re: first

    by NedGump

    this is the first time in maybe 5+ years that I posted. And I got a first!...in another talkback. But anyway..I never botherd to post before...and I totally forgot my username and paswrod till 10 min ago. I rule.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I love this show

    by Latauro

    Sorkin rules. Of all the greatness I'm watching at the moment (Deadwood S3, Heroes, Lost), Studio 60 is my favourite. I managed to survive the Firefly cancellation. I'm not I could withstand it if it happened to Studio 60 as well.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Latauro

    by BadMrWonka

    um...sorry to break your spirit, but in March of 2007 I'm gonna have some bad news for you...

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 3:30 a.m. CST

    not that I want it to happen!

    by BadMrWonka

    I love Studio 60, and if Sorkin developed a pilot about spittle that fliked of his tongue as he spoke, I would tune in...unfortunately, networks are dumb, and Studio 60 is not long for this world, I fear...

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 7:11 a.m. CST

    I gave it 4 stars...

    by DanielKurland

    And for whatever reason, I suppose Herc would prefer to have one less review than bother posting mine. It's a pretty good episode though, maybe not as quotable as other episodes, but it's definitely got the better story of the episodes we've seen so far, and in that regard, I'm glad it's spanning two weeks.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Also, "Where were you?" "BREAKFAST!!"

    by DanielKurland

    Is great, along with, "You don't like kids and dogs?" "Or orphans, is that a problem?"

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 8:21 a.m. CST

    WELL

    by THE KNIGHT

    I can't wait to come back later to read all the cancel talk from the haters *rolls eyes*

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 8:22 a.m. CST

    BTW

    by THE KNIGHT

    Pretty good show...

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST

    put this show out of its misery

    by ZO

    .

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 9:20 a.m. CST

    NBC

    by VibroCount

    According to Tim Goodman at sfgate.com: "Look for NBC to announce soon that it will give 'Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip' a full season order. Maybe with patience from NBC, people will worry less about the show's fate and simply watch. (And Aaron Sorkin will make the sketches funnier, or cut them entirely.)"

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Heroes is the perfect lead in to Studio 60

    by CTU Mole

    Both are about characters who the producers of the show want you to think are the most important beings on the planet and have the weight of the world on their shoulders. The difference is that in Studio 60 they actually are. Save us, Studio 60, from the blight of the red states and their ignorance of Abbot and Costello. Only the biting satire of Nightline with Juliette Lewis can save us from the flyover state apocalypse. Now cue the dramatic Sting music while Chandler and the religious girl, the new Adam and Eve, face the future. Gravitas.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST

    VibroCount, what you posted is so simple...

    by DanielKurland

    Yet it makes perfect sense. "Worry less about the show's fate, and just watch." Amen. All this cancellation talk is probably just having them lose more viewers, and it will be a nice relief to just be able to watch the show and enjoy, and hopefully much of the stress will be gone. Will it be picked up for a season 2? Well that's a long ways a way, but at least that gives Sorkin the chance to pitch an exciting second season premise, and other such possibilities, as well as looking at what other shows NBC has lost by the time the new Fall schedule comes out. I hope what you posted is true.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST

    McKinney one of the weaker kids? WTF?

    by Negator76

    There are no weak 'Kids'. How dare you. But it sure is depressing that he's stuck on 'Studio 60'. Face it, this show is a turd. I hate christians as much as the next fella, but how many times can we watch People Talking Fast So You Think They're Clever While They Walk Swiftly Down a Busy Hallway Towards the Camera? Actually, I think that's the title for Sorkin's next project. PTFSYTTCWTWSDBHTC!

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Studio 60 is a weird beast.

    by Freakemovie

    I've watched the whole thing, and I've come away liking the show and disliking Aaron Sorkin. Is that impossible? He's a great writer, the setting interests me, all the actors are great, the banter is great...but pervading through the whole thing is such a loud, annoying sense of Sorkin himself shouting: I'm-right-you're-wrong, Christians-are-all-ignorant, and the best, drug-use-isn't-so-bad. And yet I like the show. Oh well...I suppose when the show is cancelled in a few weeks, these conversations will be moot.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Also maybe worth mentioning is that...

    by DanielKurland

    Busfield co-directed with Lesli Linka Glatter, who directed on West Wing, but more important, TWIN PEAKS. I've also been checking up on "The Larry Sanders Show" and Scott Thompson is great on it....there's my segue from one behind the scenes show with a KITH, to another.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 11:59 a.m. CST

    This was not a good episode

    by topaz4206

    And I love this show. Sorry, thats a shitty review, but i'm tired.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 12:26 p.m. CST

    i got bored with it and quit watching after episode 3

    by BLWiseass

    has it gotten any better, or are the jokes in the show within the show still not funny, and do all of the charachters still speak with exactly the same zingy sarcasm and act essentially the same?

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 12:55 p.m. CST

    BLWiseass...

    by DanielKurland

    I don't know what to tell you. I'm a huge fan of the show, but I can understand the other people's problem with it. Sketches haven't really been featured that much lately, and in regard to the dialogue, yeah, they still talk that way, but Sorkin's been doing that for years. That's not a staple of just this show, and if you don't like that, you may not like a good deal of Sorkin in general.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST

    I really liked this episode

    by ChorleyFM

    The biggest problem is that it is only half a story. It really is Sorkin attempting to recreate the feel of The West Wing's Celestial Navigation though. I think the show is improving, and I really appreciated Goodman ripping into the pretension of the show.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I love the show, but...

    by MemBirdman

    I'm getting tired of the Christian bashing, too. Look, I have absolutely no problem with you bashing the Religious Right or Christian Conservatism because I'm all for ripping any brand of Christianity that requires a trademark logo. But they're ripping not on those groups, but on the values shared by them AND by the people who are genuine about their faith with no agenda in mind. And as much as I love this show (as I've said in multiple talkbacks), I am starting to hear the fabric of my patience streched to the point of tearing. Please, resolve the angle or make it a background issue.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 3:47 p.m. CST

    yackbacker - you forgot about DL

    by oisin5199

    he actually IS a standup. Again, I'm in the other camp. I never cared how well Casey and Dan worked as sportscasters. In fact, Casey seemed terrible. What matters is how much they cared about being sportscasters. Same thing here.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Still waiting...

    by ElfinJam

    ..for this to be as good as I think it could be. The contrived humor in the sketches (or lack of) is bothersome, but from a drama standpoint, it's an engaging show. As to the whole christian bashing thing and the east/west coast ignorance about "flyover" country, it's a tired device. Broad based stereotyping of anybody who is not from NY/LA as a "dumb hick" is lazy writing in my opinion and beneath the quality this show seems to be striving for. That said, I'll probably watch the damn thing tonight...

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST

    On the topic of Christian bashing...

    by DanielKurland

    I can understand why people are getting annoyed with it, but it's pretty much become a character trait for Harriett. It'd be like if Josh on the West Wing was constantly going to pro-abortionist meetings, and made his love for abortions clear to everyone. It may not be the best example, but when you're in the spotlight, and you have some trait that is different from everyone else, obviously it will become an issue, so I think it makes sense. Bearing that in mind, do we need to hear about it every week, and at the magnitude it has been featured? Absolutely not. But I understand what's going on with it.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I love John Goodman so much

    by mraig

    It hurts to see him not looking so great. A while back it looked like he was losing some weight and getting in better shape, but now he is looking older and bigger and tireder than ever, so sometimes it's almost painful to watch him. I mean, nobody wants John Goodman to look like Adrien Brody, but he's, what, 54, and guys his size don't live to be 70. Come on, John, don't pull a Chris Farley/John Candy/John Belushi/Dan Conner!

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Can Matt write any sketches NOT based on religion?

    by Flim Springfield

    I mean, it was interesting for one episode, now I just thought "are they still going on about this?"

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I've enjoyed this show so far...

    by Childe Roland

    ...but, like the West Wing and Sports Night, it just often feels overwritten. Characters too frequently say exactly the right thing to hammer home the overarching message of an episode and they deal with the unexpected in way too smooth and efficient a manner for me to suspend disbelief and entertain for a moment the thought that these might be real(ish) people. Whoever brought up the point about believing them as comedians is keyed into the same thing, I think. How much of stand up and live comedy is improvisation? Nothing these people say feels improvised or spontaneous (Even Matthew Perry, who managed to make the very overwritten Friends dialogue he was dealt feel fresh and genuine from time to time). Still, I enjoy the show. Probably because I think Sorkin usually paints a pretty decent picture of the way things should be in an ideal world, even if they never possibly could be in the very flawed world we share. Does that even make sense?

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 6:52 p.m. CST

    that was pointless

    by punto

    the judge opens with "do you think a judge would ask a cop to shoot you in the legs and call people 'japs'?" and then spends the rest of the episode making everyone defend the contents of the jesus sketch and implying that the fate of the arrested guy depends on it? that didn't work at all (I still want to know what happens with the rest of the stories, but that judge is a cartoon character to me now).

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 9:05 p.m. CST

    john goodman

    by adzigjo

    Nothing is fucked here, Dude. Come on, you're being very un-Dude. They'll call back

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    religion

    by adzigjo

    people dnt want to hear about this...they are watching for entertainment...if i need to hear about religion i'll go to church on sunday not Monday night

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Christ, what a smarmy pretentious dreck

    by CTU Mole

    I'm being forced to watch it now. Those Nevada folks sure are rubes! I can't believe the cops are holding that guy. Don't they know he's on a sketch comedy show? And how can they have the whole staff of the show on one plane? What if it goes down? They are soldiers in the war of the Red States! It would be the end of civilization as we know it! Does that plane have countermeasures?

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Just felt like pointing this out...

    by DanielKurland

    The music at the end of the episode was TOTALLY end of season one Sports Night music.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 9:56 p.m. CST

    OK, I am done ...

    by jbs0209

    You know why? Because while I am an atheist, I am not a bigot. Sorkin is really coming off as a bigot. Oh, this hate is Politically Correct Hate, but it is still myopic hatred and bigotry. MemBirdman and ElfinJam are correct. "Broad based stereotyping of anybody who is not from NY/LA as a 'dumb hick'" has gotten the point that it is just bigotry and it isn't entertaining. I loved (loved loved loved) SportsNight. I would trade every episode of West Wing for 2 more seasons of SportsNight. I hated West Wing, because it was preachy and overly self-important, but at least that fit a show about the White House. Here, Studio 60, is a freakin' comedy TV show! Sorkin should stop writing "The West Wing set on the SNL lot" and start writing a "drama about SNL". The show isn't funny. Most of the characters are too self-righteous to be likable. And unless you are desperate to keep watching The West Wing, the show isn't entertaining. I find about 25% of each episode enjoyable. (For example the black standup comic.) I am just not willing to slog through Sorkin's bigoted well-trodden self-righteous diatribes to get to that 25%.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Damn

    by Reilly

    I was pulling for this show... but as of tonite, I really dont care. It was boring and uninteresting. A nevada judge makes some racist comments then condemns some religous jokes...seriously im not entertained. To bad this show wasn't on at 9pm so I wouldnt be upset about missing Heroes when 24 comes back.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    "I'M TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT!"

    by THE KNIGHT

    Enjoyed John Goodman... He was great back in the 90s... Nice episode...

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Yea, John doesn't look good...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Even his voice, on those Dukin Donut ads, sounds fat.

  • Nov. 6, 2006, 11:18 p.m. CST

    yeah, John don't look good

    by oisin5199

    Ed Asner seemed in better health. Sorry, everyone, but I still really enjoy this show. I laughed quite a few times, loved the Matt/Danny 'puppetmaster' scene, and really like Simon and Tom. Now I'm curious about the reason behind the speeding ticket. And yeah, they have a point when most television has ugly violence as acceptable, while you can't say 'Jesus' or the whole nation makes such a huge stink about an exposed nipple. Anyway, that full season order is around the corner.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Pronounce Nevada Right!

    by ViciousMonkeyKiller

    Even Reno 911 got it right after a few episodes.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Don't care for this show...

    by ewokstew

    one bit. Everyone's wit is as sharp as a razor and they all have flawlessly crafted responses for everything said to them. Blah... the dialogue is so painfully scripted it's ridiculous. Watch Entourage, at least the writers there convince me that what comes out of Ari's mouth is the real deal.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 2:30 a.m. CST

    sigh...

    by BadMrWonka

    god damn all you complainers are driving me bonkers. have you seen the West Wing? why tune into Studio 60 if you dislike Sorkin's brand of writing, pacing, etc. or if you can't stand a show that talks about the Christian Right, and portrays them in a less than favorable light? what are you expecting? when people complain about that, I am just at a lost. it's like walking out of Jackass 2 and complaining there was no plot. this show is not for everyone! the people don't talk like "real people" talk, THEY AREN'T REAL PEOPLE, and yes, there will be dozens of digs at religious conservatives every episode. the slim ratings show that there are enough people that don't get this, to make it teeter on the edge of cancellation. as much as I would hate for that to happen, I hate even more the annoying whiney people in this talkback complaining about the same shit every week, and yet still tuning in. do me a favor, unless you have a Neilson box, just stop watching, AND stop posting. if you're a fan of the show, and you have gripes about the direction it's going, or anything interesting to say about episodes, I'm all ears. but the constant bickering about how the show is fundamentally set up is just plain annoying. and for what it's worth, the shit you are all complaining about in terms of the insults to religion, don't we get that 10 times a minute on the daily show and the colbert report? why not complain about it there?

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 6:16 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by MemBirdman

    1) I don't watch the Daily Show or the Colbert Report, so the point is moot for me. 2) I don't have a problem with them taking on the Christian "enter trademark here" group. I do have a problem with them using the central figure of Christian faith as a tool to rip on whatever it was they were ripping on. That's not taking on a segment that thinks it should create policy. That's taking on the whole, most of whose ultimate goal is to be able to live under the policy created peacefully. 3) Yeah, I was soooooooooooooo rooting for Studio 60. Now, I'll likely watch through the rest of this season, but I'm not the proponent of the show that I once was. Oh, and while I've lived through what happened to Harriet outside the diner, who says "trunkated" in normal speech?!

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Oh, and...

    by MemBirdman

    "Your side hates my side because you think we think you're stupid and my side hates your side because we think you're stupid." Sorry...if that was to come across as sarcasm, I completely missed it. It's good to know that the writer of this show thinks I'm stupid...why am I supporting his show again? I don't typically stand behind people who call me stupid.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 8:55 a.m. CST

    and sorkin's undefeated

    by foreignerbelt

    and sorkin's undefeated streak comes to an end. this show sucks. it was time for me to face up to it this week.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Re: sigh ...

    by jbs0209

    Have you seen SportsNight? You know Sorkin did a show before West Wing, right? It is good. It wasn't preachy. It was entertaining. If Studio was more like SportsNight and less like West Wing I'd love it. As for the Daily Show, it is funny. It isn't preachy; it isn't condescending; it isn't mean spirited. That is the difference. It isn't that we can't take a joke; it is that we can't take a self-righteous bigot. As for "don't get this", what don't get be an A*Hole? Don't get that being the right kind of racist makes you a "better person (tm)"? Yeah I hope I never "get that".

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 11:08 a.m. CST

    you do realize that Matthew Perry's character

    by oisin5199

    is not literally Sorkin, right? That characters aren't necessarily stand-ins for the writers? It's been established that Matt has more of an anti-Christian bias than anybody, and sometimes it's apparent that his responses are knee-jerk. People who criticize this show always seem to make the mistake in assuming because a character says it, that it's 'the truth' and what the message of the show is. Like when Tom made cracks about his parents being from Ohio and people said that the show was making fun of the midwest, conveniently forgetting that we clearly see Simon criticizing Tom for disrespecting his parents and their background. Sure, preachiness happens, but not every statement a character says should be taken at face value. And if you think that sketch was meant to make fun of Jesus, membirdman, you missed the point as much as John Goodman's judge did. They weren't 'taking on the whole' - it was in the very specific context of network standards and practices. That's the problem with taboos and religious icons. Everybody thinks they have ownership over an image, when in fact, people create their own "Jesus" based on biases and backgrounds. Symbols are complicated and risky to take on.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Pronunciation of Nevada

    by Spuncho

    I don't think they'll ever get it right. President Bartlet never learned how to pronounce "Concord." Why should we expect any different? Now my question is this: Were the people from Macau speaking Cantonese or Mandarin? In an earlier episode, Ed Asner incorrectly implied that people from Macau spoke Mandarin. Hmm...

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah... and "truncated"

    by Spuncho

    Membirdman, what word do people use instead of "truncated" where you're from? Just as an aside, I'd like to mention that the dialog on Studio 60 sounds like how people talk where I'm from.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 3:20 p.m. CST

    oisin and Spuncho

    by MemBirdman

    No, I got the skit. It's the same as "blaaaaaaaank...Willow" or "blaaaaaank...a-doodle-doo." What I'm saying is the snowball is already rolling, so anything in the ballpark is piling on. Understand, I wasn't offended by it...it was marginally funny. But I'm tired of the piling on, because when you use the same central figure or ideology over and over again, even if it's to point out shortcomings elsewhere sometimes, the focus becomes that figure's or ideology's shortcomings. Spuncho: "They didn't put in the whole quote," "That's not what I said," "There was more to what I said that what they wrote." All mean the same as truncated, essentially. I've honestly never heard the word used in normal speech as far as I can remember. It sounded so stilted, especially in comparison to the relatively common language that he (Sorkin) regularly uses.

  • Nov. 7, 2006, 3:39 p.m. CST

    jbs0209

    by BadMrWonka

    first off, hard to read your post man. I had to reread a couple parts a few times. punctuate much? second off, the daily show isn't mean spirited? um, huh? that's its whole schtick. I love it, don't get me wrong, but they rip everyone a new one on a daily basis (har har). I watched Sports Night, I liked it, but I think it's clear (or was clear after the first episode) that this show is more in the vein of west wing than sports night. that's how it is. what good is whining? if it's not your thing, tune out. and also, your last sentence about racism and bigots, I simply cannot understand your "writing". can you please translate?

  • Nov. 8, 2006, 8:48 a.m. CST

    I thought it was a great episode...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    ... and I actually, finally, thought that one of the sketches might be funny. Jesus as the head censor on NBC. That has potential... but we're never going to see that sketch... so... oh well.

  • Nov. 9, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Just got a full season pickup

    by Freakemovie

    According to Ausiello at Tvguide. Weird...I applaud NBC for usually giving their shows a solid chance but I figured they would just cut their losses with this one. Let's hope they keep Friday Night Lights as well, and maybe find better timeslots for both of them? If they didn't already move Scrubs and 30 Rock in, I'd say just move it back to thurs. at 9. Ridiculously competitive timeslot, but at least it would follow The Office, which is the exact same audience they're going for. Ratings couldn't get much worse. Who knows what they'll do with it, but keeping it behind Heroes just seems dumb.