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Borat and Captain Jack to face off for Tim Burton?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a bit of a bizarre rumor that started over at Production Weekly this morning. They believe Sacha Baron Cohen is in negotiations to play the competing barber character, Signor Adolfo Pirelli, in Tim Burton's SWEENEY TODD. I can't imagine anyone else I want to see battle Johnny Depp for command of each scene. Hopefully this pans out. What do you folks think?
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so cool - sasha can do no wrong
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Not sasha you dumbass!
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Oct 13, 2006 6:56:01 AM CDT
I thought you were talking about Captain Jack Harkness
by mirrorball man
I don't know if Captain Jack Sparrow really appreciate your calling him "Captain Jack".
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that movie would be awesome
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I think this might work brilliantly.
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Of course he can sing. Din't you shear him singing 'riiiiide da punani' in Madonna's "Music" Video?!!
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Pirelli's a friggin' hard part to play- at my school it was played by a girl, because we didn't have any tenors who could go that high.
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I once saw Tim Burton hire the most bland actor on the planet, re-write a great script and put together one of the worst re-makes in Sci-Fi history! All at the same time!!! Here's to Tim Burton!!!!
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Actually, this sounds awesome
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It's a small, 2-scene role - at least in the original stage musical. Pirelli is a pompous ass who purports to be the best barber/tooth-puller in London...to say more would be spoiler-riffic.
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This will be an awsome Musical Movie.
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First of all, and this has been my concern over Johhny Depp playing Todd from the beginning, is that it is not going to be believable that Sasha is so much younger than Depp that he would be able to say that he was a 'boy' that was hired years ago to sweep up hair. Their ages appear too similar. Inasmuch as I love Johnny Depp, I'm afraid that he's not old/rugged enough for a lot of this stuff to work --- this being a prime example.
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Oct 13, 2006 11:01:20 AM CDT
Using character names instead of actors names in story
by sydbarretsmydad
...headlines is annoying at best. Embarrassing is a better description. Would you have titled a story about the planning of The Godfather with "Stanley Kowalski and Boo Radley Get Mobbed!!!!!!"
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did no-one else see Ali G in da house?
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Capt'n Ron
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I would love to see these two in a Tim Burton film together.
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Oct 13, 2006 12:19:41 PM CDT
Sweet, now we can endure more of the 'Austin Powers'
by sir hickorybeans mccrackin
effect. Everyone badly quoting unfunny Borat lines for the next 10 YEARS.
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These roles deserve (and require IMO) actors with legitimate voices. And Pirelli is a Tenor (or an alto if you saw the recent b'way version...)
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cast helena bonham carter as mrs. lovett. his movies have been on a sharp decline since he started fucking her. and since he started using john august for a screenwriter, come to think of it. come back, caroline thompson!
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I hope that this happens. F it! MAKE THAT SHIT HAPPEN PRONTO!!!
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Sounds great, Cohen stole every scene from Will Ferrell in Talladega Nights, he can definitely stand up to Johnny Depp!
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...while you sit home and masturbate!
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...while you sit home and masturbate!
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Oct 13, 2006 12:55:38 PM CDT
It sounds like the actors may not be doing the singing
by industrykiller!
And thats pure speculation on my part admitedly. But if its true thats total bullshit. Its basically stealing a role from someone who can actually play it. i would rather not see Depp in the role than not have him sing.
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His movies are like halloween candy. You can only eat so mych before you start to feel sick. Then you realise you need something with some nutrition, something with some substanance. He bores the shit out of me.
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Wrong. Wrongity wrong wrong. Bad. Dumb. Weak. Why why and why. Burton should be fined and Depp should be suspended for enabling this miscasting.
Depp has come a long way in my estimation of his talent, but this casting is just bad. I like him, sure, but I also like Rowan Atkinson, and that doesn't mean he could pull off such an obvious miscasting...though Atkinson would be a better choice than Depp for Todd...and I don't know why I pulled Atkinson outta my ass. I'm just very distraught over this. please somebody change the fabric of reality and make it not so. -
Many years ago, at a signing for Oyster Boy in NYC, I asked Burton about the status of Sweeney. "Nobody will pay for it" was the answer. Too bad, because the ideal cast was then in its prime: Kevin Kline as Sweeney, Emma Thompson (who CAN sing) as Mrs. Lovett. Emma could still pull it off, Kline could, too - it's just the sort of thing that would put a bit of spice back into his acting. Alas, neither has the box office clout they once did. That being said, Kline would make a fantastic Judge Turpin (the main villian...although "villian" is a relative term in this story).
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And I would rather watch Johnny Depp and Sacha Baron Cohen lip-synch than pretty much anybody else actually sing.
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Oct 13, 2006 3:32:36 PM CDT
This could be a rumour to help make benefit Borat movie
by performingmonkey
Like I just typed, have you ever noticed when someone wants promotion they're suddenly being cast in everything, but it's just rumours. If you're gay, is someone who's straight technically gay from your perspective? And if you're gay, is it called reverse cowBOY or am I just being presumptious? Another thing, if you watch Brokeback Mountain...alone...with your cock out...pumping your fist faster than a hummingbird beats it's wings, does that make you...gay? YES IT DOES, YOU TOOLS! AND THAT'S WHY BURTON SHOULD STOP WORKING WITH DEPP AND CASTING HIM IN EVERYTHING (everything apart from the ACTUAL movie he should have cast him in - Apes. Oh, and he should have thrown out the script and had JJ Abrams pen it with Whedon doing the rewrite).
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To join in the chorus of people who know what they're talking about, I will restate that Depp does not belong on this project. Burton doesn't either. Unless Cohen is secretly an operatically trained countertenor, neither does he. Pirelli is an extremely difficult singing role, as it calls for a very operatic "Italian" style opera tenor. Henry Higgins it ain't.
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I was hoping that role would go to someone older/can not act constantly self-aware of how funny he is (Sacha is a comic genius, but he doesn't seem right). I think Depp'll work, though. All Todd needs are the eyes that can be alternately glowering and soulful, and Depp's the master in that department. He doesn't need to be physically intimidating like Michael Cervaris and it might actually work to his advantage that he's not.
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Damn you Michael Bay
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Damn you Michael Bay
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I'm guessing many on this board have never seen/heard Sweeney Todd. It is, for all intents and purposes, an opera (well ok, not technically) and the bulk of the acting will be singing. These are exceptionally demending roles and anything other than actors with well trained and well-nuanced voices will be able to pull it off, IMO. And as for technology CoursinLarry, you are *so* right - that's why "Polar Express" is filled with such memorable performances!
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anything other than actors with well trained and well-nuanced voices will NOT be able to pull it off
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like uwe boll
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... where barely voice trained actors sing the parts, and critics and audiences alike are apparently charmed by Nicole Kidman's thin, tinny voice and Ewan McGregor's power ballad karaoke. I'm all for casting actors in musicals, I'm also all for voice overs by professional singers.
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I worked on a production of Sweeney Todd last year with a younger Todd so it's not that odd an idea. As long as he captures the character. I'm not sold on Cohen as Pirelli though, but it could work. Whatever the case I just want to see this project work and come together. It could be a real mess.
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