Jill Wagner just announced via bulletin board post on MySpace that she was informed today that "Blade" will not be picked up for a second season. The post only appears if you're one of Wagner's MySpace "friends." If you give credit or whatever for tips, you can direct people to my blog at THEOcracy.wordpress.com. Thanks.
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:26 a.m. CST
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:28 a.m. CST
Blade: The TV Series was damn good stuff to watch. It grew on me, and since the story focused more on Krista's double-agent role it was fine-tuned to great story telling. What's with cable networks? Don't they know that this shit works and if they give it a chance it will work even better after a couple seasons? Fucktards. Bring Blade back and I'll fucking watch it. ___KNEEL___
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:28 a.m. CST
AAAAAAAAGGG!!! You assholes!! I hate you Spike! What do you want, another fucking season of Dudesons or Raising The Roofs?? Or maybe another 3 hours of MXC!!?? ASSHOLES!! Burn with the same dickheads that canceled I-Man!
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:31 a.m. CST
Why didn't they just go ahead with Blade 4, eat crow, and kiss Wesley Snipes' ass for mishandling Blade Trinity?
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:47 a.m. CST
I was kinda liking that show, especially Marcus' character.
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:54 a.m. CST
by xsi kal
I kinda figured as much when the show had its season finale and no word was forthcoming on season two. The guy playing Blade was pretty weak, but all the vamp stuff was cool. I think they should ditch Blade and just retool the series as a vamp-centric show, dealing with the intrigue between the houses.
Sept. 29, 2006, 1:12 a.m. CST
This was a great show, great escapism and we rarely get a vampire show at all on tv even though the tv format is a great opportunity to explore the mythology in depth. Possibly because there usually isn't much there beside the standard Ann Rice clichés. Not so with Blade The Series. Clearly the show is (was) establishing characters and expanding its universe while staying away from relying on the tired eurotrash vampires, or the modern guns-and-knives vampire slaughter fest style. Say what you will against the show, ironing out all of the glitches, like Blade's weak presence and believability in his own show, in 14 episodes a lot was accomplished and most series take a lot longer to get their footing. Jill Wagner, Jessica Gower and Neil Jackson (Marcus Van Sciver) were definitely amazing. It's also great the show focused on these characters and their backgrounds rather than pure violence, even if this might have been budget-motivated.. All the show really needed was a better first two hours, which turned off a lot of people, and either a different actor for Blade or a re-invention of the character, or both. Whedon's vampires are still the only ones we could consider following for years on TV.
Sept. 29, 2006, 1:17 a.m. CST
I loved this show , jill wagner is the hottest chick on that whole station..it got better and better each episode...even Sticky was doing much better as Blade. But Spike I guess needs more UFC which I am sick of already and the 4th season of the ultimate fighter couldn't be more boring.
Sept. 29, 2006, 1:28 a.m. CST
...but I'll wait for something that doesn't come from a MySpace account.
Sept. 29, 2006, 1:37 a.m. CST
Y^es, the series literally did suck at first, if i'd just seen the pilot i wouldnt have been surprised if it wasnt picked up, it started getting good about 5/6 eps in and by the end of the season it was great TV. It needs to get a 2nd season.
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:42 a.m. CST
I started to like it after a few shows, but I knew that they would rather sack it cause they couldn't figue out how to make action figues of it. And they guy that said spike just wants to air more UFC, Dudesons and Raising The Roofs is right, cause they are all stupid as fuck at least MXC is funny.
Sept. 29, 2006, 4:06 a.m. CST
the fact that you would think that this would be appropriate in any way just shows that you are not deserving of the whedony goodness. NO WHEDON FOR YOU!
Sept. 29, 2006, 5:24 a.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
And the ratings improved over its run, too. What happened? I'm guessing it was due to budget cuts at Spike. The network couldn't afford it anymore. The guy who played Marcus, and the guy who played Shin, were really good. Even Sticky was getting better and growing into the Blade role. It's a shame. This is one series on cable that should have gotten to run for another two seasons at least.
Sept. 29, 2006, 5:33 a.m. CST
has David Goyer in its iron grip. More powerful than any Grudge, which invisibly moves from viewer to viewer of anything David Goyer creates, killing their interest (Christopher Nolan has strong magic, which was able–temporarily–to distract the curse). The only way Mr. Goyer can be saved from such the horrible fate of powerful viewership death is to make amends for Blade: Trinty.
Sept. 29, 2006, 5:52 a.m. CST
i've only seen the movies, ain't read the comics, and - while the movies definitely have their moments - i have about zero interest in watching the tv show or anything else set in the Blade universe. it just seems really dull somehow. Threshold, by contrast, was actually not bad. not great, to be sure, but certainly watchable.
Sept. 29, 2006, 6:22 a.m. CST
by Blok Narpin
I had a BAD feeling this might happen as soon as I heard it was airing on Spike. Spike isn't exactly known for their original programing. Maybe Sci-Fi will swoop in and save the day. SG-1 is ending!
Sept. 29, 2006, 6:54 a.m. CST
Sticky Fingers was a horrible choice for the lead role. I dont know how much Micheal Jai White was asking but they should have paid it. The writing was gettinga lil better but everytime I saw sticky fingers act, I laughed in mockery.
Sept. 29, 2006, 7:15 a.m. CST
is witty one liners and great action scenes. Simple. Sadly the show had neither...
Sept. 29, 2006, 8:25 a.m. CST
Suck ass TV.
Sept. 29, 2006, 8:28 a.m. CST
by CTU Mole
That's pretty low.
Sept. 29, 2006, 8:30 a.m. CST
And Blade, to me, was the least likable character in the movies.
Sept. 29, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST
by Captain Mal
I only caught the first few episodes of this show, and while the vampire story was genuinely intriguing, the show's central character was *painfully* bad. He delivered every line as if he were sitting, constipated, on a toilet. I cannot begin to imagine how Mr. Fingaz got that job.
Sept. 29, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST
Spike killed Blade? You bastards!!!
Sept. 29, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST
by The Cabin Boy
Johns has a myspace page too I guess, and in talking about his involvement in a movie with the Robot Chicken guys (read this all at newsarama) he spoke of it not getting picked up for a 2nd season. Poor Vern.
Sept. 29, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST
by Cletus Van Damme
Get it? HAW!
Sept. 29, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST
by Read and Shut Up
...had the acting range of a corn nut. Yes, Wesley was a prick and out of control on the set, but he got all the subtle things about the character without acting like a Pirates of the Caribbean automatron. I watched six episodes of this threadbare, boring, barely acted crap and decided enough was enough. Now - let's get Blade 4 in production with Wesley back behind the shades.
Sept. 29, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST
Fans deserve one more Blade movie with Wesley Snipes. The movie should begin with Blade coming to after taking some bad serum. We then learn that Blade: Trinity was just a bad serum induced hallucination.
Sept. 29, 2006, 10:36 a.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
The series didn't start off well, but if you kept up with it, the episodes did improve and the story arc became quite interesting. There wasn't anything else that was better to watch this summer, so Blade became regular viewing for me. It wasn't Blade himself, but all the side characters and the vampire mythos that made the series good. I read somewhere that the ratings for the pilot and the second to last episode were some of the highest that Spike ever had. It does look as if the network canceled it due to costs. Most of Spike's original programming look to be super low budget.
Sept. 29, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST
Blade was the worst character on Blade. If they killed him off and made it all about the vampire clans it would have been much better. That being said it was still one of two things I ever watched on Spike. The other being UFC.
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:09 p.m. CST
tired of it anyhow.
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST
I planned on watching the rest this weekend. Is it still worth watching ?
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST
Dont do it Spike TV. It was fantastic. It just kept getting better and better.
Sept. 29, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST
For one - I trust nothing that is posted on Myspace. It's inherently unreliable. Two - just because Spike cancelled it doesn't mean it won't crop up on another network/cable outlet. three - spike hasn't even seen the numbers on the dvd set yet. It COULD go through the roof as it contains the "unrated" version of the show with many extras. Let's not forget that FAMILY GUY was cancelled too until the dvd numbers came in. There's still a lot of room to manuever here.
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST
Original Blade is a classic, less said about 2 and 3 the better - loved the Detroit look about the first one, which the tv show more or less matched, but by god Sticky, look, I don't mean this personally, maybe the director was shit or something, but you just weren't working out... what a wasted opportunity...
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST
directly responsible for cancelling this shit. I guess if all you do is cue up the reruns of Star Trek and ultimate fighting all week it's hard to see straight after a while. But if they could they would see that this was a very good show that had really hit its stride and would have grown into something even better in season 2. I have no doubt that a second season would have been much more popular than it already was - even I know that's how TV works now, especially with shows like this that are designed to watch all in a row, i.e. on DVD. After everybody catches up on DVD they get excited for the next season, and vice versa. In fact, it's a dumb decision all around because even if they were gonna cancel it for sure they should've waited until after the DVDs to tell anyone. An impending season 2 (real or imagined) would have boosted the DVD sales too. Oh well, I guess if this is true I will just return to the old world where there is no Blade TV show and I forgot there even still was such a thing as Spike TV. p.s. I hope Spike Lee sues you fucks again, just to waste your fuckin time. And Spike Jonze too! p.p.s. If you reconsider though I would be willing to testify against either of the Spikes. think about it fellas.
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST
and a curse on Herc for putting that Angel ad on there. You know there are such movies as BLADE and BLADE 2 you could pimp if you gotta turn everything into a damn commercial. you are pissing on Blade's grave, Herc. HOW DARE YOU? (all caps for emphasis) [I'm serious]
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST
The 2nd half just kept getting betetr and better. BTW this is what Jill wrote "Jill sent out this bulletin tonight: No news on a pickup yet but if you guys wanna contact Spike, here are all the ways to send your comments to them. Just thought i would send it out again since some people have asked me for the info. Thanks again for all of your support for the show!!! "
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:39 p.m. CST
I hope it is canceled by Spike...so it can picked up again by a real station. A-Holes.
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:43 p.m. CST
and, man, what it would be like to have a show with the anarchy of the original film along with Snipe's little smiles and attitude and... What? Catch you fuckers at a bad time?
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST
I want a black Dodge Charger...
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST
sorry. had to. ironically (or not; you decide), I was watching the whole Angel series while Blade the Series aired. So ... didn't see it. Was it really that good? I didn't think it could be. But ... damn. Maybe I should've watched it.
Sept. 29, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST
Cuz if it drops in the middle of something great, I don't know if I can handle watching another TV show that just gets gunned down on the causeway (i.e., killed before it can kick appropriate ass).
Sept. 29, 2006, 3 p.m. CST
Shame. I liked the cast and the series, even if Michael Jai White was not cast in the lead role. New Line Television and Marvel, read this...move the series to the SciFi Channel where it belongs, not the faux channel for men.
Sept. 29, 2006, 3:08 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
Clearly they did this so they could afford Richard Dean Anderson's salary when he returns for season 11 of Stargate on Spike. (opens umbrella as the shitstorm of flames flies his way)
Sept. 29, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST
... I can't be arsed sending a shitstorm of flames your way - I just don't think Spike tv is the sort of outfit would take Stargate - sorry to bust your RDA bubble....
Sept. 29, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
That was a joke son, try and keep up...I would , however, love to see a season 11 of Stargate starring RDA, but it isn't going to happen, and certainly not on Spike. Now I'm going to sit back and watch more people respond to me like I was serious. easy...much too easy...
Sept. 29, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST
...sorry Hairy, but I was being drunk... I know you love Mr. Anderson but, you gotta accept it, he just ain't comin back...
Sept. 29, 2006, 3:54 p.m. CST
If you liked the movies at all, the show is enjoyable. Great characters, and some decent fight scenes. Main problem I have with it is the casting and the location. Toronto is just dull. Also, Whedon is boring and Buffy's for kids.
Sept. 29, 2006, 4 p.m. CST
About the season finale ending: well, yes and no. On one hand, it definitely was designed as a cliffhanger for season 2. I thought they'd go with a "could go either way" ending, but they seem to have been under the impression they were getting a second season. On the other hand, it does wrap up the main storyline for season 1. It's just that it sets up for what the next chapter would be about. So it will be a little disappointing as an ending but it won't feel like they just stopped in the middle.
Sept. 29, 2006, 4:12 p.m. CST
by Bob C. Cock
Sept. 29, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST
by Blok Narpin
It's become "cool" to bash Sticky and praise Snipes. It's so lame because they both did the same exact thing. They both played Blade as a tough guy who said little, swung a sword and killed vamps. One wasn't any better then the other.
Sept. 29, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST
And I love how people who watched a single episode or less are the ones slamming the show, while those who actually watched it for more than a few minutes saw the upturn in quality. As for Sticky, sorry to all the nostalgic fools, but by the time all was said and done, he'd utterly taken over the role and had completely outclassed Snipes. Indeed, Sticky ultimately proved to be a more interesting Blade than Snipes EVER was.
Sept. 29, 2006, 5:46 p.m. CST
I don't agree with alot of what's been said here. I think Snipes's performances as Blade (even in the not as good third one) are unmatched, from the way he portrays Blade's stoic, anti-social personality to his capoeria style fighting and super hero/samurai/monster poses, he is dead on perfect. It's not just that Sticky doesn't have what it takes to match Wesley, it's that NOBODY does. And obviously Wesley is not about to do a TV series, especially since he and Goyer apparently hate each other these days. So for this reason I was very skeptical going into this show. But there's more than one James Bond, there's more than one Batman, hell there's even more than one John McClane if you consider that Frank Sinatra played the character from the "Nothing Lasts Forever" book in the movie THE DETECTIVE. Like most people who kept watching the show, Sticky's alternate universe version of Blade really started to grow on me, especially by the end. Too bad Spike is doesn't have the BALLS to take advantage of that with another season. You hear me "The First Network For Men"? YOU HAVE NO BALLS. YOU ARE BALL-LESS. Blade: The Series was your balls and you cut off your own balls. That is why you have no balls.
Sept. 29, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST
I WENT ON LINE IN HERE FOR WEEKS,ASKING YOU TO SAY SOMETHING FOR THE SHOW...YOU DIDNT,,,I DID.. NOW THAT ITS CANCELED..YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE SHOW..ONLY THAT ITS CANCELED..I HATE YOUR M.F GUTS.. I HAVE LOST ALOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU ...ALOT OF RESPECT.... "THANK GOD I TAPED THEM ALL".. ANYBODY WANNA BUY DUBS?...I HAVE THEM TAPED..ALONG WITH ALL MY EPS OF "Birds of prey"..and "Witchblade"....lol.. I HATE YOU HERC.....
Sept. 29, 2006, 7:11 p.m. CST
when will the dvd be out for this.
Sept. 29, 2006, 7:16 p.m. CST
And what's your point? Oh my god! An actor that pompous and/or arrogant!? That's unusual how? The point many are so up in arms against David Goyer and Blade: The Series is that Wesley Snipes, whether you like him or not (which I have little opinion on since I have never met the man) was Blade, and his portrayal (and the choice of Stephen Norrington and Guillermo del Toro as directors of the Blade and Blade II respectively) was definitive. This is what David Goyer forgot in Blade: Trinity (when he tried to overshadow Wesley with, for God's sake, Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel;) a lesson he unfortunately did not learn.
Sept. 29, 2006, 8:08 p.m. CST
by CTU Mole
This side of the page does feel like an info-mercial. I got drunk the other night and bought a hand hammered wok and spray on hair from the Coaxial section. What I want to know is, on what basis did Spike cancel this show right away? Did the ratings dip from their usual .0003 share?
Sept. 29, 2006, 8:46 p.m. CST
YUP...AND NOT JUST...A SAVE THE THE SHOWS ONLY... I HERC.. THINK ARE IMPORTANT...WHICH IS WHAT THIS PART OF THE SITE ARE TURNING INTO.. ONCE AGAIN..HERC SHOULD BE TAKEN FROM THIS SITE...ALL HE IS.. IS BIAS...
Sept. 29, 2006, 9:17 p.m. CST
after the final episode, popped in the DVD of the first film and DAMN what a good movie! Snipes was never better and Sticky just is not as good as him. It's sad how this has turned out, like Robocop, one great film and everything after is weak.
Sept. 29, 2006, 9:22 p.m. CST
The network scanners detected my enjoyment and initiated shutdown.
Sept. 30, 2006, 2:17 a.m. CST
Or at least a new shtick. One joke may work for Jeff Foxworthy, but I gotta hold you to a higher standard in a BLADE talkback. Here we demand excellence.
Sept. 30, 2006, 4:33 a.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
1. What did Marcus do to Krista in the end, once he revealed that he knew she had been working for Blade? 2. Will Shin ever get his revenge? And exactly what happened to him which led him to want to seek revenge against a certain vampire that the series apparently never introduced us to? ... This series was set sometime after the events of the third movie. However, as the season went on, it started to feel like it was taking on its own continuity. If they do manage to make a Blade 4, Goyer will probably write that so it can be assumed that it takes place after the events of the series. I hope he can figure a way to work the characters Shin, Krista and Marcus into the storyline.
Sept. 30, 2006, 2:16 p.m. CST
Now he can go make The Flash
Sept. 30, 2006, 9:02 p.m. CST
Which "cliches" are those? Granted, Rice's works have suffered under thier own weight lately, (finding Jesus doesn't make for good horror writing) but her early works in the genre were hardly cliches. Her vampires actually defied nearly all of Stoker's rules and were a far cry from Lugosi in his velvet cape. Her vampires aren't affected by religious iconography or garlic, silver does jack shit and her vamps can eventually survive sunlight unlike thier counterparts in most other versions of vampire mythology. Blade didn't do anything with vampire mythology that hasn't been done before, though it was perhaps more successful and interesting than most recent vampire movies. (John Carpenter couldn't make a decent vampire movie if his life depended on it). Regardless, just because you can toss out an author's name doesn't mean you can accuse her of being "cliche". Vampire Hunter D had the Dhampir vamp hunter thing locked down back in the eighties, when Blade was a D-list Marvel character in a third tier book, and wasn't even on Hollywood's radar. The first Blade film had great atmosphere, and good action sequences, but the second and third went for elaborate gore and contrived fight choreography and cheesy one liners. None of these films reinvented the genre though, so stop pretending this series broke some kind of new ground. I'd rather see a show based on the blood feud from Underworld...
Sept. 30, 2006, 9:48 p.m. CST
Joss Whedon is no Ronald D. Moore, biotches. How many Hugo Awards does Whedon have? Hmmm? As for Doctor Who, Steven Moffat has one now, and probably will score again next year.
Oct. 1, 2006, 8:29 p.m. CST
I think when whoever it was said "standard Anne Rice cliches" he or she meant the cliches that came from Anne Rice books. The ones you guys use in your role playing games, etc. As for John Carpenter, he actually did make a good movie about vampires, I believe the title was JOHN CARPENTER'S VAMPIRES. Lucky for us his life didn't depend on it so it turned out good.
Oct. 1, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST
by Darth Maximus
I LOVE that movie. It deserves a lot more credit than it gets. I wish they could have done some worthy sequels
Oct. 1, 2006, 11:51 p.m. CST
right.. when I wrote ann rice clichés, I meant the many vampires and story lines, and even locations, that seem to be ripped from Anne Rice novels. Mind you, I didn't make a particularly insightful or substantiated comment on that, simply observed that often get caught watching the same vampire stories and characters, over and over. I saw John Carpenter's Vampires only recently. I was pleasantly surprised, although not necessarily thrilled. I am not entirely convinced that it mattered in that film that the bad guys were vampires. Also, can we agree that any story that relies on the concept of an Uber Vampire, stronger than other vampires, is weaker than it could be? Didn't work well for Blade III, as this ever worked well. We need more innovation or better story telling. Bigger weapons, bigger vampires is just an escalation on both sides, and not necessarily more thrilling to watch. Which is why I enjoyed Blade The Series, they were focusing more on characters, and the sub-society in the modern world. Sure, the main plot is about an uber-weapon against vampires, but fundamentally, being a tv show that must keep producing stories, they have to show restrain with that concept and in fact they fooled the audience into thinking it was a weapon against man. They also don't actually have the budget to be about fighting all the time.
Oct. 2, 2006, 1:45 a.m. CST
The central character IS Blade. The name of the series IS Blade. So what happens when the lead character is poorly portrayed? It doesnt matter if the show was a well written masterpiece. It was 'painful' to watch Sticky's acting. No one expected him to be Westley but damn just do the character justice. Sticky has little pronunciation, mild intensity and that lazy eye didnt make shit better. To be honest, it would have been better if they had just had sticky play a blade-like role ( a relative or something) than Blade himself. Next, the budget was lacking and you could tell in every episode. Some franchises require a big money investment. Blade is such a franchise. And thus, it bit the dust. Blade Trinity was a fucking disgrace to the first two movies. Snips took a backseat to Jessica Biel and Ryan Reynolds and it turned into MIB 3 ( Men In Black 3)guest starring Westley snipes as blade. If you're not going to respect the franchise dont do it at all. Do you blame Snipes for hating Goyer?
Oct. 2, 2006, 8:26 a.m. CST
by Captain Mal
Or, rather, his film does. www.sfwa.org/news/2006/06hugowinners.htm
Oct. 3, 2006, 12:18 a.m. CST
by chubb rock
and Viacom doesn't like a budget at all, just look at how they've got progressively cheaper with their networks. MTV went from playing music to airing game shows and animation done by slave labor animators in Korea and interns in New York, then they found that reality shows are even cheaper to produce and now you see 18 minute reality shows stuck with 12 minutes of commercials on MTV. Spike TV is the same, it's just them finding cheaper and cheaper ways to run their programming, five years from now they'll be all reality shows, too, mark my words. Viacom is just a sorry excuse for an entertainment company, that's the real reason they cancel all the good shows.
Oct. 3, 2006, 12:26 a.m. CST
"They also don't actually have the budget to be about fighting all the time." Disagree. Cheap shows like Marshal Law had good fighting every episode. Raimi's Hercules started off low budget, and had "fun" fight scenes every episode. Even Cleopatra 2525 had "fun" fight scenes every episode. No, I don't accept that Blade had weaker fight scenes and production values than Mutant X. The producers of Blade needed to be lined up and repeatedly kicked in the nuts... by an ugly man. "Do you blame Snipes for hating Goyer?" Ahh,HELL NO!!
Oct. 3, 2006, 2:53 p.m. CST
I think the show started poorly, but it definitely improved as it went along. I think the big problem for spike, wasn't the ratings in terms of numbers, more the fact that the audience demographic was principally female. Another network (perhaps Sci-fi), might like that aspect as it could be a good hook, so it's not altogether unlikely that BtS might not get picked up elsewhere, perhaps once the DVD sales have had their say.