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Billy Ash Views CHILDREN OF MEN From An Interesting Perspective!!

Merrick again...
Billy ash wrote in with an interesting perspective on Alfonso Cuaron's CHILDREN OF MEN. Billy is a British Muslim...and this film is (in part) about an opression of civil liberties. This is a different approach to the film than we've sene in previous reviews, and we sincerely thank Billy for his time and effort. This is a film I'm really looking forward to seeing; might work on the same level as SOYLENT GREEN, LOGAN'S RUN, and serval other films of that ilk. Which is a very cool (mighty good) my mind at least. Here's Billy Ash...
Watched Children of Men last night, it was shown for free in the UK. I was iffy about seeing it, but I saw a 30sec promo on TV, and thought Clive Owen was superb in Closer, and in anycase the ticket was free, so what the hey. I have to say, that I have not been as blown away, as shaken, as surprised in the cinema as I have since I saw "Fight Club". The world has changed since that film was released, and so has the UK. This film reflect that, in a matter of fact realistic way. The plot involves a not too distant future London, where the last child in the world was born 18 years ago, and we follow Clive Owen's character as he gets embroiled into a turn of events, ultimately leading to the revelation that an immigrant girl is about to give birth to the world's first baby for 18 years. The story twists and turns and twists a little bit more. It's a grown up film that terrifyingly creates a living breathing London gone wrong, with civil liberties shot to pieces, and propaganda all-round. It's scary, because you can image that if we lose our liberties, at the rate that we are doing in the UK, that this is exactly were we are heading for. At one point, we are in a very Beruit like immigrant-ghetto, and there is a threeway battle for the girl with a baby is going on in full strength. On the one hand, Clive Owen's character is trying to rescue her, towards a boat to Brighton, meanwhile a renegade militant group is trying to capture the girl for their own political means. On top of that, Sid, the policeman is after the girl, and Clive Owen for a reward. The camera is rolling, and explosions are happing all over the place. Rockets are being fired, people are getting shot, and trampled on, Tanks are returning fire as they roll down the streets. We go down one street, to the next, following Clive Owen, we see action that would normally require take-after-take, we see chaos, and we can follow it all, this is not CG, nor too-quick-for-the-eye. Meanwhile... the camera is still rolling, and moving, and following Clive Owen, all in one continuous shot. This is groundbreaking cinema. Imagine the Omaha-beach scene from Saving private Ryan. Now image that level of chaos, without the camera cutting back and forth, but just rolling,, and rolling, and rolling. On top of that, the stuff that's going on is down right scary and prophetic. The camera walks through an Islamic funeral march, straight outta Palestine, we see French immigrants marching through the ghetto, we see police kicking, shooting and generally abusing immigrants in a very Guantanomo- Abu Gharaib style, and it's all happening in and around London. It's all done in a truly believable way. As for me? I'm writing as a British Muslim, who just wants to get on, and be both a good Muslim, and a good British Citizen. It was all working out great, until some idiots crashed a plane into the twin towers, and gave Tony Blair a chance to prove that he's happy to poodle with George Bush, and wreak havoc in the Middle East. Over the last few months, I've been feeling more and more uncomfortable with the way that the government, and my civil liberties have been heading. This film describes my fears played out. Call me... Billy Ash

CHILDREN OF MEN opens in the U.S. on Christmas Day.

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  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:15 p.m. CST

    This looks really good...

    by OriginalThinker

    I love the premise and Clive Owen owns!

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:17 p.m. CST

    I am just a lowly not first poster.

    by ECUPirate71

    I was so close...

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Looks great

    by Monkeylove

    The premise for this movie could actually happen I heard...

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    this movie looks so good

    by maluquiro

    and they played sigur ros on the preview... such a good preview...

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:21 p.m. CST


    by Datascream

    sounds interesting, the trailer didn't really seem to have a lot of action in it. It seemed to be more of a drama. I'm gonna be waiting impatiently for this movie to come out now.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:25 p.m. CST


    by AngryThurmond

    Yes! I fisted before you all!

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST

    When i heard about this movie, i ran out and....

    by grypson

    bought the book. While i enjoyed the short book (only 200 pages or so) very much, its obvious from the first trailer that it is strikingly different than the upcomming movie. That being said, I can't wait til christmas to see it.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Can't we all just get along?

    by Nate Champion

    It's nice to know that Children of Men is such an earth-shattering experience, but somehow I doubt George W. Satan or Osama are going to be soaking in its revelations of the human spirit anytime soon.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Saw it too nyeh nyeh

    by Body Armour

    Some Spoilers - I saw this movie too on Wednesday night. So scary cos it's so realistic. There were a coupla of great steadicam shots, that one mentioned above which is truly amazing - you cannot believe the shot goes on for that long and also I think there is one where he is trying to escape in a car that won't start that is teeth grindingly tense to watch. Clive Owen is an unusual leading man in this as he doesn't seem to give much of a shit. For much of the film he doesn't engage in a lot of heroics - he doesn't carry a gun. He gets by on his smarts all this while wearing flip flops. There is a beautiful moment near the end of the film when all the fighting stops when the cry of a child is heard. But the potential for sentimentality is undercut when it all kicks off again seconds later. This is really a great film. I was quite surprised by it. I thought it was going be more of a sci-fi flick but it is quite grounded in reality. It belongs more to the thriller genre as there are really great shocks and twists.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 2:07 p.m. CST

    It's not one continuous shot

    by IndustryKiller!

    I read an article where Clive Owen was talking about it and saying that the cuts are just too seamless for the eye to see. not taking anything away from it though I'm sure its amazing.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 2:09 p.m. CST

    So it's like the Kathryn Bigelow POV stuff...

    by Christopher3

    In "Strange Days"?

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Technically great

    by Blueberry

    There are a couple of fake one-shot sequence with hand held camera. The finale one following Clive Owen to the rescue of the baby in the detention camp, while masterfully choreographed is too long and you risk to lose the emotional grasp of the scene. The one that made me go "Wow, how did they shoot it?" is the one in the car with the camera going back and forth and turning to follow the dialogue exchanges between the characters and then the accident that happens outside.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Praise Allah

    by BannedOnTheRun

    ...that the brave Billy Ash was able to sneak into the secret underground bunker where they screened this forbidden film and then make it to an unsecured computer terminal to post this review outside of Britain's firewall, where AICN's agents were able to decode it. Perhaps a pirate DVD rip will make it onto the P2P networks. What? It was shown for free on UK TV?

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Interesting viewpoint for an Interesting Film

    by andynortonuk

    I didn't have this Muslim ideology when watching this film, but I still find it an incredibly powerful experience watching this- but I do recommend another viewing, just to take it all in.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 3:37 p.m. CST

    the book

    by cptrios

    Hmm. This seems to be a rather large departure from PD James' novel. I guess it's probably for the better, as the novel really isn't too conducive to a movie as it's written. Sounds like it's going to be excellent, though.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Billy Ass

    by Phimseto

    Yeah, too bad Bush and Blair ruined it. Those UK home-grown terrorists blowing up the subway or all those polls showing 48% British muslims consider themselves more Islamic than British don't have much to do with all the ill-will going about. You're just a worried victim. I bet the Pope made you feel bad, too. It is easy to blame people in the government, because you can do something about them. Not so easy to confront the more enigmatic, dogmatic and quite frankly dangerous problems of radicalized ideology and the destruction of a cultural identity. Sigh. After all the tripe at the UN this week, I am bit tired of the victomology angle. That being said, I will be in line to see this on opening day and perhaps I too will come away in mortal fear for my civil liberties. Alas.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Photos proves Muslims act like jackass in England

    by Kamala

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Just Released Clips ( I Think..) Enjoy

    by Driver8

    and it has that coffee shop tracking shot

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Good Muslim= Oxymoron

    by zekmoe

    You're seeing the beginning of the new crusades, which will reel up into a world war unlike any before, and china will prevail, staying out until all sides are almost beaten. Enjoy it while you can. Oh, and I'm taking investors in my new company. It's going to make Koran Toilet paper and Mudhammed Dart boards. Any takers?

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 4:57 p.m. CST

    mocky_puppet read this:

    by Kamala

    Three girls have been beheaded and another badly injured as they walked to a Christian school in Indonesia. They were walking through a cocoa plantation near the city of Poso in central Sulawesi province when they were attacked.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 4:59 p.m. CST

    zekmoe = moron troll.

    by Lord Asriel

    So the muslims fighting in the british army are bad are they? You are either a parody or a fucking cunt. You choose. Film looks good but I think I'll still prefer the book.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Really like the look of this flick...

    by Giant Ape Balls

    Going to see it tomorrow. However, for all you're having ago at the guy that wrote this piece, he's got a point. There seems to be some very dubious legaslation being pushed through in the name of "anti terrorism".

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST

    cuaron is such a subtle filmmaker...

    by occula

    he uses handheld camera in the way that most filmmakers THINK they're using it - to give you what the protagonist is feeling, instead of just 'pov'. i was glad he tackled this story.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST

    guantanamo bay?

    by Kamala

    Wow, panties on the head, or your head cut-off. Give me panties! UCKNOW, India -- Soldiers were on 24-hour guard at the Taj Mahal after officials received a letter threatening to blow up the monument, officials said Friday. Authorities were investigating a handwritten letter received Thursday - purportedly sent by an al-Qaida supporter - that said the terrorist group planned blasts at the 17th century monument, which drew nearly 2.5 million tourists last year.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Another British MUSLIM

    by Kamala

    Asked if a British Muslim was allowed to carry out a "terrorist attempt" in a foreign country, Muhammad said "That is another story." He added: "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity." Bakri is, sad to say, on firm ground in Islamic theology and law on that one. It was important to see accusations of terrorism in their proper context, he said. "If we give money to needy women and children, they say they are the families of terrorists. But where do the terrorists come from? Zimbabwe? No. They are people from here. And they are our brothers, the terrorists."

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 6:44 p.m. CST


    by BannedOnTheRun

    Since when does AICN give fawning intros like "we sincerely thank Billy for his time and effort"? For a "progressive" site that goes on and on about Christian censorship (and anal sex with Angelina Jolie), you guys sure are quick to kiss ass when a Muslim writes in. I too hate to see civil liberties compromised, but perhaps if Billy could spread the word among his fellow Muslims to drop the whole jihad business, we could make some progress on that front. As an atheist, I'm not looking forward to the movie selection at the Shariaplex.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 7:07 p.m. CST

    I saw the film this morning

    by Aidan M

    I saw the film this morning and thought exactly the same as Billy - not since Fight Club have i been so moved by 2 hours of cinema. The action sequences are truly original and utterly stunning and had me shaking in my seat. Soon after, during an amazing scene in a London battlefield, i found myself in tears. It's a masterpiece, modern cutting edge cinema at it very best, not to mention the best use of special effects you'll ever see. I think i might go again tomorrow morning. It's genius.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST

    I would also like to add

    by Aidan M

    I would also like to add that, judging by the above posts, some of you are extremely ignorant and fundamentally racist. Most Muslims are peace-loving people and hold no truck with terrorist organisations and do not deserve to be vilified by brainwashed fools. The USA and UK have a long and very complex history the Middle East that cannot be explained by clever soundbites and puerile insults. Besides, i was under the impression we were talking about films.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 7:56 p.m. CST

    ZombieSolutions =Fucking Idiot

    by Kamala

    Please don't: Vote, Breed, Run for Office, Drive a Car, Post on Message boards. Now Begone, Senior Prickface Chavez needs some one to service him, so on your knees boy. Meanwhile, in Somalia - An elderly Italian nun who devoted her life to helping the sick in Africa was shot dead by two gunmen at a hospital Sunday in an attack possibly linked to worldwide Muslim anger toward to the Pope.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Viewing the trailer, I saw a Christian perspective...

    by KennyKilo

    Ever since I saw the trailer in July, I am eagerly anticipating this movie. I even got some goosebumps watching it. Some of my friends who watched it also viewed the miracle birth as a "Christ child" or second coming. Some of my Christian friends, especially the more progressive ones, thought so, too. I dont understand the whole civil liberties perspective, but then again Im not a Muslim living in Europe who has watched this movie. Kudos to Aidan M point, but ZombieSolutions, all Im going to say is Bush and Bin Laden pervert their faith to motivate their fearful followers.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 8:18 p.m. CST

    zombieSolutions exposed

    by Kamala

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Saw this on Tuesday

    by Babyshamble

    There were free screenings in UK cinemas because Empire Magazine organised it. The one at my cinema was full. The film is fantastic, Cuaron's camera work has to be seen to be believed. And Michael Caine is wonderful in it. Definitely the best sci fi film I've seen in years. I wonder why it's not coming out in the US til december? Perhaps so the film will get Cuaron some recognition at awards time.

  • Sept. 22, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Pope gives an intelligent speach about theology

    by Kamala

    And we get this: Seven people have been wounded in a shooting at an Easter church service on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi. Police said two gunmen burst into the church on Saturday night and sprayed the congregation with automatic weapons fire before escaping. Hospital staff said on Sunday none of the injured, who included a four-year-old girl, were in imminent danger. The shootings happened just outside the town of Poso in central Sulawesi, an area that has acquired an unenviable reputation for inter-religious violence.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 1:06 a.m. CST

    anchorite... ever watched 24?

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    ...I didn't read all of your post cos it's probably nothing that hasn't been said before in the Daily Mirror, but let's not lump everyone together in the same category, eh? The reviewer of this piece isn't a terrorist and a fanatic. He's just a bloke, a spectator, who would probably largely agree with a lot of what you've said. And I'm REALLY looking forward to this film, just seen an advert for it on telly and I was mightily excited.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 1:15 a.m. CST

    This new Talkback system is doing my head in...

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    ...God I hope this is a work in progress, cos it's a headache.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 2:40 a.m. CST

    So Why Didn't Cuaron Bother To Develop

    by Craig Ranapia

    his own material if he wants to make a movie about the War on Terror/racism, rather than try and pimp it off the back of a literary property that does (splendidly well) something different? I'm not one of those tiresome cultists who think a novel is holy writ, but it would have been nice to see a film closer to James' novel - which is an oddity for taking some pretty grown-up thematic material (like religious faith, guilt at the death of a child, our social attitudes towards children and aging, how tenuous our respect for human life really is) that are seldom treated seriously in fiction period, let alone science fiction from a best-selling mystery writer.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 3:36 a.m. CST

    "That Bush and BinLaden

    by eveelcapitalist

    "That Bush and BinLaden "pervert their faith to motivate their fearful followers." That was the point of my post. From the text that I read, neither Jesus Christ nor Mohammed advocate murder or war; both were peacemakers. Can't say the same for Bush or Bin Laden (or Pope Ratzinger for that matter)." Firstly, it's Pope Benedict and not Pope Ratzinger. I'm not Catholic, atheist in fact, but that shit annoys me. Secondly, Mohammed was a military leader. He led armies in war. This is a well known fact. As well, the Quran does indeed advocate militarism. Jesus didn't give two shits about overthrowing governments and the like. He said shut up and pay your taxes. He was concerned with bringing Jews back to their roots. Mohammed needs to be looked at as a military leader. Even if you can say he was among the more enlightened military leaders of his time he still needs to be viewed in that context.======= # "Strike off their heads. Strike off their finger-tips! … because they defied God and his Apostle." (Sura 8:12-13) # "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Sura 2:193) # "Seize them and put them to death wherever you find them." (Sura 4:89) # "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you." (Sura 9:123) # "When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them; besiege them; and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way." (Sura 9:5) 9:73 "O Prophet, fight [j-h-d] the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be stern with them. Their abode is Hell, and what a terrible fate!" 9:123 "O you who believe, fight those of the unbelievers near you and let them see how harsh you can be. Know that Allah is with the righteous."=========== The point is Mohammed had no problem killing people. There's lots more shit in the Quran I'm sure, but I'm not a muslim. There's stuff like this in Judeochristianity as well. The Old Testament has plenty on wife beating and homo killing and so on and so forth. I'm not gonna be the one to lie and say islamofascists are "perverting their faith" cause really they're not. They love all that jihad shit I'm sure and probably glossing over any decent shit there might be but that's not my point or my problem. The fact is modern Jews and Christians tend to write off all that bad shit and say, "Well it just was the way they were then but these days people know better." I'm still waiting for the Muslim to come along and say, "Yeah, Mohammed went around and lopped off his share of heads, but ya know people were pretty fucked up back then and thankfully we all know better these days." Thirdly, and cause this annoys the hell out of me as well, Bush is hardly a theocrat. If Bush is a theocrat, then I'm the Archbishop of Cantebury. Seriously, the moment people talk about Bush's so called religious radicalism I tend to stop listening. The guy is a Sunday Christian if I ever saw one. And he's a Methodist. A veritable bastion of radicalism there! Seriously, a little intellectual honesty goes a long way.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 5:18 a.m. CST

    The advance reviews are ecstatic.

    by Sepulchrave

    This might be the science-fiction event of the year. I love dystopias; they're the best kind of horror film because they're the only cold intellectual horror. Watched 1984 (the Hurt-Burton one) recently and the production design and use of London locations in that film was excellent. I hear there's a remake in the works but I can't see how you could improve on the performances, or those of Peter cushing and Donald Pleasance in the earlier BBC film.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Nobody can convince me...

    by Darth_Bogart

    ... that Islam is a religion of peace. How come Muslims angrily march through the streets burning flags and two students from my university (Kiel) recently tried to blow up trains just because of freaking CARICATURES? I have never seen any comparably enraged reactions after any of the incredibly bloody Islamistic attacks. Islam is tolerant as long as the believers are in the minority. As soon as they are in power violence is the only reaction against Christians and Jews that they can conceive of. There are exceptions. There are more moderate groups. But to me violence seems to be a general tendency within Islam. And by the way: As a German I am deeply ashamed of my country's past. But to call Ratzinger a Nazi is just plain stupid. I am very critical of religion in general but Benedict's criticism of Islam was justified. He was in the Hitler-Jugend as a child by the way. That doesn't make him a Nazi.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Nobody can convince me...

    by Darth_Bogart

    ... that Islam is a religion of peace. How come Muslims angrily march through the streets burning flags and two students from my university (Kiel) recently tried to blow up trains just because of freaking CARICATURES? I have never seen any comparably enraged reactions after any of the incredibly bloody Islamistic attacks. Islam is tolerant as long as the believers are in the minority. As soon as they are in power violence is the only reaction against Christians and Jews that they can conceive of. There are exceptions. There are more moderate groups. But to me violence seems to be a general tendency within Islam. And by the way: As a German I am deeply ashamed of my country's past. But to call Ratzinger a Nazi is just plain stupid. I am very critical of religion in general but Benedict's criticism of Islam was justified. He was in the Hitler-Jugend as a child by the way. That doesn't make him a Nazi.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 7 a.m. CST


    by HostileOrganismX

    Less Human Bombs in London Tubes? More Civil Liberties! Tell your Brothers, Billy. And thank you oh so sincerely for your time and effort.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Idiots vs just film fans

    by tylersturgeon

    First time poster long time reader and all that - why is it that this site plays host to both people who love film and would like to discuss it with like-minded individuals as well as fucking morons who want to spew their at best misguided and at worst hateful political agendas? You want to talk about Muslims in Britain, Conservative politics or just throw in gay brokeback whatever jokes fuck off and do it somewhere else. That is all

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST


    by Kamala

    When these fucktards can leave their political views out of their film reviews, maybe then the talkbacks can be free of it as well. You have just been "owned". No go back to popping you zits.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Personally, I think the Muslim terrorists made a good

    by CreasyBear

    point by murdering Christians when the Pope dared to insinuate that Islam is inherently violent. I mean, what better way to protest someone calling you violent, than by blowing people up in retaliation? That'll show 'em!

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST

    That review was so illiterate

    by ElsieZiiippp

    It could've been written by an American. Is this guy really English? My guess is that he can't write properly due to the copious amounts of Burberry he's wearing.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 11:33 a.m. CST

    brokebackcowboy = The Fag Wisperer

    by Kamala

    A 'few hundred thousand Iraqis' are mainly killed by their fellow peace loving muslims. : Ten Iraqis were killed in an overnight suicide bombing in a remote village north of Baghdad, officials said Friday, bringing to nearly 50 the number of people killed during a bloody day of violence in Iraq. Thursday's carnage claimed the lives of at least 49 people, including more than 30 in four suicide bombings across the country's north and a Shiite cleric in the southern city of Basra.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Moderates do too much thinking and considering.

    by CreasyBear

    For social change, you need rabid extremists for that ol' political battering ram effect. Moderates rarely get fired-up and one-sided enough to enact any significant changes. Extremists are more exciting, more emboldening. They may be crazy, but their craziness gets shit done. (Usually immoral and detrimental shit, but you can't accuse them of being wishy-washy.)

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 4:31 p.m. CST

    ummm...the battle he describes sounds just like

    by s0nicdeathmonkey


  • Sept. 23, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST

    as a film fanatic...

    by avs28785

    let the muslim reviewer express his viewpoint. isn't that why we read reviews. i think it is an interesting perspective. also lets not be ignorant people. everyone does horrible things... thats life. anyways the film sounds awesome. clive owen is an amazing actor. loved v for vendetta and im sure i'll love this. why?... because almost anyone can relate to the themes present in both films.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST

    British dystopian SF

    by Avengerdude

    Us Brits. do the dystopian thing really well; once it seemed this sort of suppression of rights in the UK would only ever be fiction. Now it is becoming reality. ID cards anyone? I am not a Muslim, I am an aetheist. I am equally intolerant of all religions but not of the people that practise them. I can't understand why people in the UK are so terrified of Muslim terrorists. The IRA were far more succesful at killing people in this country. They almost got Thatcher. We didn't start blaming all Catholics or all Irish people for the actions of these people. And we didn't live in fear of terrorism as apparently we do now. Or so the government tell us. I'll see the film on Monday night. Read the book years ago. Enjoyed it; thought it very Wyndham-esque.

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 6:40 p.m. CST

    The Long, Long Tracking Shot

    by Pabodie

    See also Kubrick's excellent PATHS OF GLORY for an amazing, tracking, one-take shot of Kirk Douglas storming the Anthill ('splosions, casualties, gas, machine guns and fortifications all around). For its time I'm sure it was a groundbreaking scene. Sounds like this new film has a little homage happening. =)

  • Sept. 24, 2006, 7:31 a.m. CST

    brokeback: The irony escaped you? Really?

    by CreasyBear

    Was I being too subtle? I'm not even sure what you think my position is based on my post, but you somehow inserted your own agenda in there, even though it made absolutely no connection to my point. Take a deep breath, relax, and reread it. I wasn't saying what you think I was saying. Again, how could you miss it?

  • Sept. 24, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Chavez and Kim Jong il aren't Muslim.

    by GiLL

    that's half the new axis of evil. so much for radicalized idealogies and islamo-fascism.

  • Sept. 24, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Kamala (And other likeminded, oblivious retards):

    by DefyThis

    Thanks for wasting space in a talkback by going on and on about a film you haven't seen yet, based solely on one (or maybe two or three if you looked beyond this very page, although that I highly doubt) review, then launching into a political/theological rant so misguided it's just fucking funny. i.e. "A 'few hundred thousand Iraqis' are mainly killed by their fellow peace loving muslims." First, a few hundred thousand have not died thanks to the terrorist quagmire the United States created when it invaded Iraq without any real plan of bringing stability to the nation. The numbers have, thankfully, been lower, though no less tragic. Tens of thousands were killed due to American military incompetence, and as many as a million Iraqi children were killed during the period in which Iraq was put under sanctions, as those in power (Saddam and his cronies) sat fat and happy. And what that has to do with this movie, aside from the reviewer's interpretation, is beyond me. Seems like you were just looking for an excuse to rant against Muslims. There are radicals and non-radicals, same as there are in Christianity and pretty much any other religion (although possibly not Buddhism... I'm yet to meet a radical Buddhist). Now do us all a favour and shut the fuck up about it. This is a talkback not a KKK meeting. It's not a news site, so stop posting shit your found on Google News. And you didn't own that last poster. You couldn't "own" a blind frog in your own bathtub.

  • Sept. 24, 2006, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Dystopian flicks

    by readingwriter

    They're most intriguing because the best come from the "If this goes on..." kernel--if something we're doing continues, THIS could happen. I'm not quite sure what the "this" of COM is, but the political subtext here, as with V for Vendetta, seems to have been grafted on to something that was written previous to its existence, namely the war on terror. (Don't worry, I'm not going to get all political.) I don't know if that has ever worked in a movie, because it means the filmmakers have to cut into the fabric of the existing work to insert their agenda. I thought 1984 (the Hurt/Burton version) was outstanding because it played by the book's rules. One didn't have to IMPOSE contemporary political ideas onto the material. The viewer could watch the movie as a pretty accurate interpretation of the book, and then think for him/herself "You know, this applies to us today." That's called "respecting your audience," and I'm afraid from what I've read that COM is going to fall into that same hole VfV did, which was to make a ranting piece of propaganda out of something that could have been a dangerously suggestive work of popcorn entertainment.

  • Sept. 25, 2006, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Saw this on Saturday

    by Mr Gorilla

    Saw this amazing movie on Saturday. It doesn't try to address politics head-on in the way, say, that V for Vendetta does. Cuaron gives the film so many layers, and so much to think about, that one's initial response can't help but be dictated by what one brings to it. Cuaron wrote a brilliant piece in London's Time Out magazine... One of the things he wrote is that he believe in details - he feels they are as important as the dialogue. And believe me, there are so many details in this brilliant film it's tough to know where to start. One finds oneself thingking about despair, hope, immigration, nature, growing old, resistance, activism, compromise... and I really feel I'm only scratching the surface. The other thing to say about the film is that it is at times very exciting, very moving, and, at the end, extremely full-on. The action scenes smack you around.

  • Sept. 25, 2006, 9:10 a.m. CST

    How the perspective of a Pilipino Jew?

    by Kamala

    They whole subject of this review is ridiculous. How about leaving your cultural baggage behind and review the fucking movie!