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apple.com has posted the new, full-length trailer for Mel Gibson's APOCALYPTO. I had a whole slew of mean spirited, rather obvious Mel Gibson jokes lined up for this one...but...you know...I'm gonna leave it alone.
I'll admit that, when I first heard about this film, I was a little skeptical: there were so many things that could go wrong with it, in so many ways. The original teaser...got my attention. It looked promising, although it didn't knock me out of my seat.
But this? This is pretty damn cool...portending a film of tremendous physical detail and visual energy. I love the look and texture of the photography -- very distinctive. Highly atmospheric and evocative, but not over the top.
As the son of a Cultural Anthropologist, I'm so ready for (and impatiently awaiting) some angst-ridden-dying-society introspect -- and ultra-violent running through the forest half naked!
CLICK on these uber bad-ass warrior dudes to check it out!
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Looks pretty snazzy
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I can't wait for this movie!
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I have to put something here to post
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I just read that mike judge's Idiocracy opened this past friday in 7 cities in the US, nyc and LA not being one of them. literally not one ad of any kind was presented, nor any poster or trailer anywhere. Anyone see it by any chance? Another glorious example of the pathetic film business and its pathetically myopic "execs" not knowing how to "sell" a movie, thus dumping it in the only way they know how - silently and without a prayer. You people at Fox are beyond moronic. I realize that people wouldn't be lining around the block to see this, but jesus, Judge DOES have fans. And by god worse films have opened in theatres this year....
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Sorry about the "the" my fellow dweebs. By the way, did anyone else notice that the Burger King voice is now doing promos for NBC?
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My wife won't watch Polanski movies because of his villainy.
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what's up, TORN? i miss those heydays. you don't know me but i sent you a tip about 'his dark materials' back when chris weitz was first going to direct. anyhow, i still think there's something about mel gibson...his humor, his passion for projects...that can win us back over...
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This film is obviously meant to expound on the doom and damnation that awaits a "culture of death" - something that the Catholic church has decried the West as embracing. For Mayan heart-ripping sacrifices, read abortion.
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They just never got caught drunk shooting off at the mouth. It's like masturbation ,if you deny it you're lying.
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i think i saw riggs and murtaugh in there
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Calling someone a "fag" for being anti-semetic isn't lost on those in here.
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I'll make sure the ticket is for something good. What also comes out around that time?
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Way to complain about antisemitism and then go ahead and call people "fuck fags". Seriously, the irony is killing me.
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Just judge the movies
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Braveheart was shit and Passion was tedious. "Mel Gibson's Apocalypto" is perhaps more apt that it ought to be.
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IDOL KO YAN SI MEL GIBSON!!! PUTANGINA ANG GALING MO TALAGA! HAYOP KANG TALAGA! ITO ANG AKING PINAKAHIHINTAY NA PILEKULA NG TAON! ANG GALING! WOOT! WOOT!
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Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Naputol na naman ako sa internet ko na kupal...ah ewan. bili na nga lang ako ng bagong makina
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I dont condone any of the bad shit the guy did - drink driving, homophobia, conspiracy theory, and his anti-jewish behaviour - but the guy made a fucking mistake for christs sake. Will he have to wear that shit for the rest of his life? ARE ANY OF YOUR PERFECT? I fucking doubt it. Let Gibson "heal" as he said he would, and let him get on with his life and making movies.
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Mel is racist against the English! We are a race, so don't be prejudiced against me! hmmph. He's also a bigoted, sexist twat.
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it looks great, thanks to Dean Semler (an aussie who's shot Dances with Wolves among other things) but I'm still not convinced that Mel is a great director. I think Braveheart had some cringe-worthy hollywoodisms in it and really is a fairly run of the mill film. Like Pulper said above, it is a lot of guys running. WOuld be nice to know what the story is, apart from the marketing-friendly, glib taglines. According to IMDB the woman gibson cowrote with hasn't written any other screenplays. Interestin that Pirates of the Caribbean and Passion of the Christ share the same initials
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when not being facetious- I know that you hate Israel and the very idea of a jewish state- but can you honestly say that you don't see anything insensitive (to say the least) in his comments/ performance that day. Aside from "sugar tits" which is genius. I called the wife that and she brained me with a copy of Lord of The Rings. Apparantly chicks don't dig derogatory terms of endearment, who'd have guessed?
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Mel. And she used LOTR as it was the heaviest book in the room. Just as well she is small or it would have hurt (ha- only joking, I would never do something that insensitive).
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directors with equal or worse strikes against them is that he attacked JEWS. Jews run hollywood. There's an old saying that goes "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".
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and here come the anti-semites out of the woodwork. You have to hand it to mel- he has managed to unite a truly disparate group supporting him, from the hard left to the mindlessly conservative they will all fight tooth and nail to protect his right to be a bigoted arsehole. Brokeback, just so you know- I think he was offensive, but it has been blown out of proportion. It's not like he took a shit on anyone's kitchen table- but he was still offensive.
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that he changed the leading man in this film? The teaser had a different hero. Now the lead is a younger, fragile-looking kid. Maybe this accounts for the lengthy production period? At least we finally get to see real Mexican people on screen, instead of all the nordic -looking "latinos" shown in mainstream latin channels...too bad a foreigner had to come and use real mexican -looking people instead of ther mexican themselves....neocolonialism is still alive and vibrant in Mexico!
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Actually, that's not the plot. Supposedly the plot is that this society is facing destruction due to environmental catastrophe and a disconnect between the elites and the society as a whole [basically the current archaeological understanding of the demise of the Mayan civilization] but the elites attempt to use religious fear to keep the masses in line. The hero rebels. If this is an accurate description of the plot, it's actually kind of left-wing for Mel.
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And all the nonsense surrounding Mel Gibson. I'm a go and see this 10 times in a row because I know it's going to be that good. And if you don't like Mel Gibson, shut up and keep it to yourself, buncha whiney ass bitches.
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Gibson fucked up. So did Polanski, and they gave him a Best Director Oscar a couple of years ago.
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I'll get slagged an anti semite - despoite the fact that many great and brave Jews also speak out against Zionism (most of you won't even know what that is. Mel doesn't hate Jews. Mel hates Zionists - the powerful group of nationalist extremists that ran the banks and media in Britain pre WWI, in Germany pre-WWII and now America pre WWII - they hold the pursestrings. They control your media, they are the most powerful political lobby. They tell your politicians what to do and say. They decide what you see in the news. They are why America hates Arabs and Musklims. Their agenda: since the late 1800s - take control of the palestine and make it Israel that has since grown to control the entire middle East that is where the oil is. This is not conspiracy theory. Find out who owns CBS, NBC, ABC, Disney, Warners, MGM, Fox all of your newspapers, find out who contribute the most to political campaigns in America. Ever wonder why your government gives one-third of its entire foreign aid budget to Israel and condones ethnic cleansing in illegaly occupied Palestine?
Mel is doing nothin more than attempting the sheepwalking western civilizxation to pull its head out of its ass and see how America is being used up to be thrown away the wat Britain and Gremany were before it. This is not anti semnitism talking, many educated jews are also critical of tZionist filth, this is anti-zionism talking - that is to say anti-hatred, anti-tyranny and anti-bigotry. Go to the Library. turn off the propaganda box. End your denial a nice little quote from Gerorge Bush's friend follows. Americans need to start using their noggin's again and stop reacting with emotions and fear of social consequences. You were once a great country of thinking, independent challengers of groupthink and the status quo. you are now country of blind, unthinking followers! Turn it around. Before the rest of the world gets together and spanks you. Have at me zombies!
During an argument between the Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, Peres said that Isralis' policies of continued violence might "turn the US against us".
To this Sharon retorted:
"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;
WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
(IAP News)
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Paranoid fucking mince of the highest order. To begin with, your knowledge of European history is fucking dreadful. Go and put your tinfoil hat on and think about what you just typed. Unbelievable.
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Yeah...it looks pretty. But I'm still not interested in this at all.
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never mind that I'm a history professor! do you know about the Blefour dec, Treaty of Versaille? You go find out who owns time/warner Disney/ABC NBC Universal Fox the New York Times The Washington Post The Wall street journal and then come talk to me - villianizing or mitigating INFORMED dissent by calling it a) racist/evil or b) crazy/propaganda has been done befor2 ie. Hitler ie. George W. Bush
You are na example of all emotional response no thoughtful effort.
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I'm not attacking you at all, but let me say this. In your words you are presuming to know so much about Mel Gibson. You say his father taught him to hate. How do you know that? That's a fabricated statement based off of two media headlines... 1) Mel Gibson's father is an antisemite and 2) Mel Gibson made one drunken statement, saying that the Jews are the cause of wars. Here is what he said: "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," and asking the arresting officer, "Are you a Jew?"
The officer, who was Jewish, did not take the comments seriously stating, "That stuff is booze talking."
That's all Mel Gibson said. Sure, the comments may have been off base. But that is something any one of us could have said when having a discussion about war, regarding the Jews involvement in WWII (a sad story), the Middle East conflicts, and the current Israeli war. He never said anything beyond that... and even what he said was in a drunken drawl. Yeah, you can be philisophical and say, well, the truth comes out when you're under the influence. That is just an easy statement to make. It's not always so. Sure, maybe he feels that Jews have started so many conflicts in one way or another. Who knows? But was that one statement REALLY enough to call him a bigot? That one statement? My suggestion to you, a proud person of the Jewish faith... practice your religion. Forgiveness. Pray that he completes his alcohol rehab and stays dry. He's made many apologies to the Jewish community, and all of the Rabbi's involved stated their forgiveness and hope that Mel will understand why that statement hurt. People get so into the media frenzy, saying that Mel's apologies are fake and what not. How the hell do you know? The problem with the world today is that EVERYONE hails the media. Anything the media says is the truth. No, they're just looking to sell papers, magazines, etc. They blew this story up soooooo much based off of that one statement. They did it so much that they changed the way people remember the incident. People talk now as if Mel was on a lengthy tirade of anti semite slurs. Nope. It was that one damn sentence taken out of context of a night full of unfortunent drinking. How many times have you told an amusing tongue in cheek joke about another race or religion? Never? Not once? I'm sure you have... even if you meant it in fun. Take that one occasion, maybe that one little joke or comment you may have made in your life and imagine someone taking that one little joke or comment and telling the world that you are a bigot and you hate Jews, asians, mexicans, latinos, african american's, etc. Wouldn't be fair would it? So practice your religion. Forgive. Pray. And enjoy his movies IF YOU WANT TO. But don't alienate them because of that one little comment that was blown out of proportion.
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Now on to other matters. The treaty of versailles? please explain to me how one of a group of treaties drawn up at the end of WWI was a zionist conspiracy? Course you are a history professor. Honest. Then you would know when Kristallnacht was then? wouldn't you. Just as well those evil jews were running Germany in the 1930's, which was.... before WWII. I fear for the future of your pupils. Don't call me a nitwit after you have just posted the most paranoid crap (including zfisk's best efforts) I have seen in a long time. Wait a minute.....My boss is Jewish! CURSE THE ZIONIST CONSPIRACY. This must be why he is not giving me that raise I deserve because of the amount of time I spend fucking around on the internet. Does this mean I have the right to get lethered and then spout offensive bigoted nonsense?
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I don't give two shits what Mel said. I'll go see it. My biggest gripe with Mel is that he won't do Mad Max 4. He'll do 20 Lethal Weapon films but Mad Max 4? Nope, sorry.
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couldn't give less of a fuck. I just hate conspiracy theories and this one is a pearler. MAKE MAD MAX 4. It is vital
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from the trailer, the plot of this movie looks like: 1. Tribal guy(rural mayan) gets kidnapped by raiding party from mayan city 2.Tribal guy gets all anointed and paraded through mayan city which makes him feel special 3.Tribal guy realizes he's going to be a human sacrifice and escapes the mayan city somehow 4. mayan warriors chase after tribal guy through the jungle, thinking sacrificing him is going to save their civilization, and also menace his family, and poetic justice gets their asses eaten by panthers. Did I get it right? Also, Passion sucked. Why spend all that money on historically accurate costume and sets if you're just going to use the same old white people. Just like scar was the only realistic-looking Lion in the Lion King, Judas and the Pharisees were the only characters who actually looked Jewish. Also, the woman who played Satan in the Passion would be hot after a few beers.
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substitute Semitic for Jewish in my last post and I won't seem so stupid
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of Hollywood. He has delivered a lot of money to the jewish Hollywood Moguls. You know this to be true. All praise to Melly Mel!
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That the lead from each trailer, I guess Jaguar Paw, looks like a completely different actor?!?!?!
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You know a Jewish person?!
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...I did, if you bother to read the thread before you post, tit.
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Because it is going to tank majestically. I'm talking Heaven's Gate/Cutthroat Island/The Adventures of Pluto Nash kind of tanking. Who in the fuck would pay to see this pretentious trash? Bunch of pierced, painted savages running through the jungle chattering in a dead dialect for two hours. I'd rather endure the torture of a 24-hour Merchant-Ivory film festival. Fuck ME this looks awful.
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this is Mel's "James Bond" it'is what made him a world icon! Nnot that shitity Lethal Weapon crap, it was a post-nuke lawman/outlaw by the name of Max Rockatansky, he was Mad, and he was the Road Warrior ... from another time, a time of barbaric wars for oil and scavengers
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Yeah, I was being sarcastic. You make it sound like an accomplishment or a validation of your wild generalities. Audiences control Hollywood, not Jews. That's why most movies suck.
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I am sorry if you misenterpreted my posts. I am not Jewish, I am an aethiest, although my family members before me were Jewish. I did mention I have made racist comments and jokes in the past when I was much younger (13 or 14) and have changed since then, I have grown up and realized how stupid racism/bogotry is. It is said he has not.
You said Mel Gibson's father is an anti-semite, please don't be naive and think that his father didn't influence his beliefs. Hate is taught and with all the facts on Mel, you have to admit there are more facts to prove he is a bigot as opposed to him not being a bigot.
Also, the reason it is easy saying that when you are drunk the truth comes out because its true, it is a fact that alcohol loosens your inhibitions and makes you say things you wouldnt normally say when you were sober but is there none the less.
Mel didn't mention a specific war, like you have, he said "all" wars. Which is ridiculous. And as I said earlier, I'm not basing his bigotry on one statement, I feel other things have contributed to me making a statement of him being a racist/bigot a fact. He has also made comments about homosexuals. He is full of hate but has kept it under wraps, this is one of the times it has gotten out. Anyway, there are enough facts proving he is. I hope he does get over his bogotry and learns hate is wrong. I enjoy his movies and think he is a good director and actor.
And to all you guys and girls who are pissed I am not going to buy a ticket for this, you can be mad at me all you want but all your doing is getting pissed off while I forget you people exist after I turn off the computer. Believ me, Im not worth it, chill, have a good day.
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am feeling very chilled out this morning. I just took issue with what that alleged "history professor" wrote. If he is a history professor then that goes a long way to explaining the state of the youth's education. Judging by the quality of English being used, and the absolute lack of knowledge, I would bet on him being a student. A young one.
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the boss being jewish line was a joke. Just using it to point out what utter shit redhelmet or whatever he calls himself was spouting. I am still awaiting his response on European 20th century history (as he clearly knows fuck all) but he seems to be struggling to download wikipedia to check that I was right.
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I apologize for my typos. The btteries were dying on my keyboard. Typical "follower" to hold superficialities above content.
"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;
WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
(IAP News)
ZIONISM AND WORLD WAR I
In the latter part of the 1800's, there arose in Europe a political movement known as "Zionism". Zionism in particular referred to the effort among certain jews to establish a jewish nation in the land of Palestine. Today, the term Zionism is more commonly applied to those jews who want to expand the borders of what was already established, at the expense of the Palestinians who once owned the land. In a more general sense, the term "Zionist" is also used to describe a certain element within the jewish community (not all of them!), who believe in Jewish Supremacy, thus putting their own interests ahead of those of the nation in which they reside. It is a mistake to assume that all jews are supporters of the "Zionist Mafia" or Jewish Supremacy. In fact, some of the strongest condemnations of Zionism and Jewish Supremacy comes from jews themselves! There exists an enormous collection of hard-hitting anti-Zionist writings compiled by such notable jewish authors, historians, and journalists as John Sack, 6 Alfred Lilienthal, 7 Noam Chomsky, 8 Israel Shahak, 9, Benjamin Freedman, 10 and Victor Ostrovsky 11 just to name a few. There is even a jewish religious group called "Neturei Karta, Jews United Against Zionism." 12 For their brave efforts, these men have had to tolerate vicious abuse from Zionist smear groups like the Anti Defamation League (ADL) - an organization which actually specializes in defamation!. So let us put to rest now and forever the slanderous lie, and strategic Zionist propaganda ploy, that labels anyone who dares to call attention to the dangers of the Zionist Mafia is an "anti-semite", a "hatemonger", or a "skin-head".
Now the Zionists of the late 1800’s faced one small problem with their bold takeover scheme of Arab Palestine. Palestine was under the sovereignty of the Ottoman Turkish Empire and the Arabs certainly weren't about to just give away prime real estate in Palestine to the Zionists of Europe. There were very few jews even living in Palestine and the jews had not controlled Palestine since the days of the Roman Empire. This destroys the commonly believed myth that the Arabs and the jews "have been fighting over that land for centuries". The handful of Arab jews who lived in Palestine got along well with their Muslim hosts and never expressed any desire whatsoever to overthrow the Ottoman rulers and set up a nation called Israel. The movement to strip Palestine away from the Ottoman Empire came strictly from European Zionists who had become very influential within several European nations.
As fate (or perhaps design) would have it, a great opportunity would soon present itself to the Zionist Mafia. There came in 1914 "The Great War" pitting the three powers of Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the Ottoman Turkish Empire against the three powers of England, France, and Russia. In the interests of staying on the subject of 9-11 and today's "War on Terrorism", we won't get into all of the underlying causes or the historical flow of World War I. What we need to understand is that the Zionists played an important role in dragging the USA into that bloody European war - a war in which the US had no vital interests at stake whatsoever.
Here was the situation. By 1916, the Germans, Austrians, and Ottoman Turks had seemingly won the war. Russia was in turmoil and about to be swallowed up by communist revolution. France had suffered horrible losses, and Britain was under a German U-boat blockade. Germany made an offer to Britain to end the war under conditions favorable to Britain. But the British, and the international Zionists, had one more card to play!
The British government and the Zionist leaders struck a dirty deal. The Zionists were led by Chaim Weizmann, the man who one day become the first President of the State of Israel. The idea was for the Zionists to use their influence to drag the mighty USA into the war on Britain's side, so that Germany and it's Ottoman allies could be crushed. In exchange for helping to bring the USA into the war, the British would reward the Zionists by taking over Palestine from the conquered Ottomans after the war was over. The British had originally wanted to give the Zionists a jewish homeland in an African territory. But the Zionists were fixated on claiming Palestine as their land. Once under British control, the jews of Europe would be allowed to immigrate to Palestine in great numbers.
Zionists powerbrokers such as Bernard Baruch, Louis Brandeis, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff, and many others immediately went to work to put the screws to President Woodrow Wilson. The Zionist influenced press, quickly transformed the German Kaiser and his people into bloodthirsty "Huns", determined to destroy civilization. In 1916, the US, with the help of the Lusitania "incident", entered the war on Britain's side under the ridiculous pretext of "making the world safe for democracy".
Meanwhile in Germany - where Zionists also wielded tremendous influence in the press and industry- enthusiasm for the war was suddenly watered down by Zionist run newspapers. Wartime labor-strikes in German weapons factories were organized by Zionist and Marxist union leaders. With the German branch of the International Zionist Mafia undermining Germany from within, and the English and American branches of the Zionist mafia pushing America to join the war, it wasn't long before the German, Austrian, and Ottoman Empires were defeated and their maps rewritten by the victorious powers at the infamous Treaty of Versailles in 1918. In addition to the numerous Zionist bankers who were influencing Versailles, the Zionists also had their own delegation which was headed by Chaim Weizmann.
Great Britain issued the Balfour Declaration in November 1917, the same month that Germany surrendered. But it had actually been prepared 20 months earlier in March 1916 with Weizmann's influence. 13 The Declaration allowed mass jewish immigration to conquered Palestine while promising to preserve Arab rights. The Arabs living in Palestine weren't buying these promises. They protested, but there was nothing that they could do to stop the coming wave of jewish immigration. This was the first step in creating what was to later become the state of Israel 20 years later.
Years after the war, an American Zionist millionaire named Benjamin Freedman broke ranks with his fellow Zionists and turned against them. Freedman was the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company and was one of the many Zionists present at the Treaty of Versailles. Freedman was very well connected and had enjoyed access to several US presidents. Freedman grew disgusted with the criminal behavior of the Zionist mafia and dedicated much of his life and fortune to exposing the truth about both World Wars and the Zionist grip on America. According to Freedman, Wilson had been blackmailed by Zionists with the threat of a public disclosure of an old extramarital affair Wilson had when he was president of Princeton University. 14 Freedman's voluminous (and buried) writings and books on this subject are essential reading. One leader of the jewish Anti Defamation League - Arnold Forster- once described Freedman as a "self-hating jew." 15
We may debate as to exactly what extent this Zionist-British dirty deal was responsible for dragging the sons of America off to die in a European bloodbath. Some, such as Freedman, believe it was the only reason that the US entered the war. Others, such as this writer, believe it was a primary contributing factor. But let us at this point agree on this one irrefutable point: the Zionists had no aversion to seeing Americans die for their own selfish interests. Even the Encyclopedia Britannica and Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia (look under "Balfour Declaration") confirm this little known fact of World War I. Here's the excerpt from Microsoft Encarta:
THE BALFOUR DECLARATION. The Balfour Declaration was a letter prepared in March 1916 and issued in November 1917, during World War I, by the British statesman Arthur James Balfour, then foreign secretary.... Specifically, the letter expressed the British government's approval of Zionism with "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." The letter committed the British government to making the "best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done to prejudice the rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine." The immediate purpose was to win for the Allied cause in World War I the support of Jews in the warring nations and in the United States. As a result of the Balfour Declaration, Israel was established as an independent state in 1948 in the mandated area. 16 It's also worth mentioning at this point that when the British dismantled the Ottoman Empire after World War I, they created many smaller nations. The oil rich, puppet kingdom of Kuwait was formed by slicing off the southern coastal tip of what we now know as the nation of Iraq. As a result of this arbitrary redrawing of the Ottoman map, a bitter conflict was created between Iraq and Kuwait. Iraq has always considered Kuwait as its true southern province. This is what ultimately led to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1991 and the Gulf War.
WEIZMANN -- BRANDEIS -- BARUCH
THE THREE ZIONISTS WHO SQUEEZED WOODROW WILSON (RIGHT).
ZIONISM AND WORLD WAR II
Let us fast forward our time machine to the early 1930's. Again, there is no need for a detailed analysis and debate of the causes and major events of World War II. The purpose here is to again illustrate yet another case of selfish Zionist agitation for American entry into a war.
The German people were bitterly resentful of not only the Zionist role in bringing about their defeat in World War I, but also over the brutal monetary reparations which had been imposed upon them by certain Zionist bankers who helped craft the brutal Treaty of Versailles after the war. Stripped of formerly German territory, and with the German economy in ruins, the people of Germany elected Adolf Hitler as their Chancellor leader. Hitler and the Nazi party soon seized control of the German media, banks, and universities away from the influential Zionists who reigned supreme in those institutions.
Almost immediately, Zionists all over the world began to agitate for action against Germany. Boycotts of German imports were imposed and calls for the UK and USA to take immediate action against Germany began to emanate from Zionist circles. On March 24, 1933, The Daily Express of England carried the bold headline; "Judea Declares War on Germany. Jews of All the World Unite in Action." 17 The front page story revealed that the Zionists had announced a concerted worldwide effort to isolate Germany and turn other nations against her.
The following year, Zionist political leader Vladimir Jabotinksy wrote:
"The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every continent...We shall start a spiritual and material war of the world against Germany. Our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany." 18
A few years later, Lord Beaverbrook, a British newspaper magnate issued this warning about the Zionist influence over the British press. Beaverbrook warned:
"There are 20,000 German Jews who have come here to England. They all work against an agreement with Germany. The Jews have got a big position in the press here. Their political influence is driving us into the direction of war." 19
In 1939, Germany and Poland went to war over disputed territory that was taken away from Germany by the Versailles Treaty of 1918. Under the phony pretext of protecting Poland, Great Britain and France immediately declared war on Germany. Beaverbrook’s prediction was realized.
In the United States, the Zionist Mafia again went to work on a US president. The names of the players had changed but the game was still the same. It was Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s turn to deliver the US into another European war. Patriotic Americans such as famed aviator Charles Lindbergh saw this and tried to warn the American people that Zionist media influence was intending to drive us into another World War. Said Lindbergh:
"I am not attacking the Jewish people. But I am saying that the leaders of both the British and the Jewish races, for reasons which are as understandable from their viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which are not American, wish to involve us in the war." 20
Because of strong public anti-war sentiment, FDR and his Zionist allies had a hard time dragging the US into the European war. Then another "incident" came along at Pearl Harbor in 1941. Japan and Germany were bound to a mutual defense agreement, which meant that war with Japan would automatically mean war with Germany. FDR embargoed Japan’s oil supply in the hopes of forcing Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Overwhelming evidence from government documents clearly shows that FDR had advance knowledge of the Japanese attack and allowed it to happen so that he could drag the US into World War II. 21
As was the case in WW I, US entry the war meant another defeat of Germany. Hours before committing suicide on April 30, 1945, Adolf Hitler dictated his last will and political testament. In it he placed responsibility for WW II on the Zionist Mafia - or, as he called it - "International Jewry and its henchmen". It's no surprise that Hitler would make such a claim. However, his final accusation of the Zionists does parallel the statements made by Jabotinsky, Lindbergh, Beaverbrook, Joe Kennedy, and many others. In the final writing of his life, Hitler wrote:
"It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish Origin or working for Jewish interests... Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America." 22
Regardless of your view of World War II and whether or not the USA belonged in the fight, the essential point which cannot be refuted is again this: years before World War II had even started, the Zionists had yet again demonstrated that they had no aversion to sending Americans to die for their own interests.
LEFT: JABOTINSKY: WE SHALL START A WAR AGAINST GERMANY.
RIGHT: LINBERGH WARNED AMERICANS ABOUT THE ZIONISTS.
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GREAT BRITAIN'S TURN TO BE BETRAYED
A few years after the end of World War II, the Zionist plan to establish the nation of Israel in Palestine was finally realized. But not before the British protectors of Palestine were chased out by acts of terror carried out by ungrateful Zionist terrorists. It was the British who had taken Palestine away from Arab control and allowed the jews of Europe to immigrate there. But with Great Britain weakened and in debt from the war, the ungrateful Zionists saw their opportunity to chase the British out of Palestine by committing acts of terrorism against them. The most notorious of the Zionist terror groups was the Irgun, whose leader Menachem Begin would one day go on to become Prime Minister of Israel!
On the morning of July 22, 1946, of 15-20 Irgun terrorists dressed as Arabs entered the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. They unloaded 225 kilograms of explosives hidden in milk churns. 23 The King David Hotel housed the Secretariat of the Government of Palestine and Headquarters of the British Forces in Palestine. When a British officer became suspicious, a shootout took place and the Irgun lit the fuses and fled. The explosion destroyed part of the hotel and killed 91 people. Most of the victims were British but 15 innocent jews also died, proving that radical Zionists are capable of even killing fellow jews in order to advance their cause.
The Irgun terror gang also targeted Arab civilians in order to frighten them into evacuating their land. The most well known of these massacres happened at the village of Deir Yassin on the morning of April 9, 1948. More than 100 Arabs, including women and children were systematically slaughtered by Menachem Begin's murderous gang. 24 The Israelis took over whatever villages the terrorized Arabs fled from.
By 1948, the British had had enough of Palestine. Under intense Zionist lobbying, the UN, the UK and the US recognized the nation of Israel in 1948. One of the first acts of the new Israeli government was to pass "the law of return", which gives any jew in the world the right to move to Israel and become a citizen. Understandably, the Arab nations weren't too pleased about this. There would be a several wars that followed. But the Israelis and their free arsenal of America’s finest weapons kept the Arabs from reclaiming their land. The Arabs have never been a match for the US supplied Israeli war machine. The irony of "the law of return" is that many of today's jews have no direct ancestral link to the jews of the Old Testament. Many, perhaps even most jewish people are descended from the Khazars, a people whose rulers converted to Judaism sometime during the 800's AD. 25 The Khazars never even set foot in Palestine!
The brutal and criminal circumstances surrounding the creation of Israel are now a half century in the past. Even most Arabs understand that Israel isn't going to go away. But by reviewing this real history, we can better understand the deceptive, dangerous, and brutal nature of Zionism today.
LEFT: TERRORIST TURNED PRIME MINISTER MENACHEM BEGIN.
RIGHT: RUINS OF KING DAVID HOTEL.
AMERICA BECOMES THE ZIONIST'S WHORE
We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then they used and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was clear that the chief remaining global power was the United States. Now the USA had never had any problem with the Arab people, and had no reason to quarrel with the Arabs. For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were receiving from America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and the mighty US could somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists possibly stoop so low? Why not? Look at what they had already pulled off! Remember that the official motto of the Mossad (Israeli's intelligence organization) is "by way of deception thou shalt do war." 26
In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for the world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were caught staging a series of bombings against American installations in Egypt. 27 When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such a controversy that it brought down the Israeli government. The long since forgotten scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".
Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and fighter jets deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US communications ship. 28 Thirty five American sailors were murdered and 170 others injured in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in broad daylight and with the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent was to kill all of the Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take the blame. Israel denied that the attack was deliberate but the chilling stories of the lucky American survivors clearly contradicts that lie. To this very day, the U.S. Congress has never investigated the USS Liberty massacre.
In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in order to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky became so disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government that he defected from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how evil and dangerous they were. Ostrovsky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya for the bombing of a German night club which killed American servicemen. 29 It was this frame up job that caused President Reagan to bomb Libya, killing the 4 year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar Qadaffi. France refused to allow US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis. Among some of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the Mossad often uses Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to turn American public opinion against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists in America are often called upon to help carry out Mossad missions. Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way of Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous death threats. 30
In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research paper issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS). The research was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to predict the possible outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain peace between the Israel and Palestinians. Here’s what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military machine:
"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in both Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to accomplish mission"
Of Israel’s Mossad, the officers issued this warning:
"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian Arab act." (emphasis added)
Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, gives away billons of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military violates international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering US troops in order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?
LEFT: THE BADLY DAMAGED USS LIBERTY
RIGHT: ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETARY MEMORIAL TO THE DEAD
ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE IN AMERICA
Now that we have established the ruthless and criminal nature of radical Zionism, one more lesson needs to be understood before we return to the five dancing Israelis of 9-11 and other related stories. Even the Zionists themselves have never denied that they have long exerted great influence in America. But what we must understand is that the Zionists do not merely influence United States policy....they dominate it! It is this domination that enables them to pull off monstrous crimes and then conceal them from the general public.
The observation that Zionists dominate the American media, government, academia, and Hollywood has been made by many prominent Americans and is easily verifiable by public information.
Henry Ford said this:
"If after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of "scandals" and "investigations" and "impeachments" for the removal of the disobedient. Usually a man with a "past" proves the most obedient instrument, but even a good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that compromise him. It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of American election campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no matter which candidate was elected, there was ready made a sufficient amount of evidence to discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed to discredit him." 33
Charles Lindbergh said this:
"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government." 34
Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under Ronald Reagan said this:
"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on." 35
While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator and Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before a national television audience:
"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned about the United States' interests." 36
Nationally syndicated columnist and former presidential candidate Patrick Buchanan said:
"The United States Congress is Israeli occupied territory." 37
And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once had the following exchange, which was caught on tape:
GRAHAM: "The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or this country's going down the drain".
NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir."
NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but I do believe it" 38
But enough of quoting others. Let's look at the facts of Zionist control.
FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report and countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO. 39 Have you ever noticed how Hollywood movies always seem to portray Germans and Arabs as a bigoted fanatics or as terrorists? Now you know why!
FACT: AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization, is the most feared lobby in Washington DC. By their own admission, they are capable of unseating Congressmen and Senators that do not carry out their requests. The majority of Congressmen from both political parties receive large donations from AIPAC. Writing for the Nation Magazine, journalist Michael Massing explains:
"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle." Newspapers like the New York Times fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very intimidating," said a correspondent at another large daily. "The pressure from these groups is relentless." 40 (emphasis added)
FACT: The Pentagon is under the control of a hard core Zionist named Richard Perle. The civilian Defense Policy Board actually wields more control over the military establishment than the Defense Secretary or the generals and admirals. There are a number of other Zionists who serve on the board (Kissinger, Cohen, Schlessinger) as well as non-jewish members who have always supported Israel and the expansion of the "War on Terror". The notoriously belligerent Perle, nicknamed the "The Prince of Darkness", is Chairman of the Board. 41
With Perle as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Zionist Paul Wolfowitz as Undersecretary of Defense, and Zionist award winner Douglass Feith as Undersecretary of Defense Policy, the Zionist Pentagon gang controls 3 of the top 4 civilian leadership positions of America’s armed forces. Careerist scoundrels like Condoleeza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld are either under their influence or unwilling to oppose their drive for WW III. The Perle-Wolfowitz-Feith gang represent a fanatical and warmongering "government-within-a-government". In league with these Zionist Pentagon conspirators are jewish Zionist and potential 2004 Presidential candidate, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) and his Gentile partner in crime Senator John McCain (R-AZ).
An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments that his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:
" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House and Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York Times, the lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their blood does not count as much as our blood. We believe with absolute certitude that now, when we have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar] Bronfman and the Anti-Defamation League, , we truly have the right to tell 400,000 people that in eight hours they must flee from their homes. And that we have the right to rain bombs on their villages and towns and populated areas. That we have the right to kill without any guilt." 42 (emphasis added)
And this only scratches the surface of Zionist power! With such awesome power to control and cover up events, is it any wonder why so many of America's journalists and politicians are afraid to even talk about this issue? Is it any wonder why former President Bill Clinton would grovel before a jewish audience and say something as ridiculous as the following statement:
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die." 43
I could go on and on at much greater length about this subject, but I want to get back to the dancing Israelis. Have I made my point yet?
LEFT TO RIGHT: PERLE, WOLFOWITZ, FEITH BILL CLINTON
THE PENTAGON'S ZIONIST WARMONGERS "I'D DIE FOR ISRAEL"
THE BUTCHER SHARON
I know. I know. You want to return to the scene of the dancing Israelis on 9-11. But there is one more quick lesson that needs to be covered before we climb back into the time machine and fast-forward back to 9-11. If we don’t cover this, you won’t be able to fully understand the "big picture".
During the 1967 war, Israel occupied the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza. Thirty five years have passed since that war ended, yet the Israeli army continues the humiliating occupation of those Palestinian areas. Those areas are not part of the nation of Israel that was created in 1948 by the UN. What the Palestinian people are resisting today is not the 1948 confiscation of their land. They simply want the 1967 occupation to end. It is this ongoing occupation, not the 1948 creation of Israel, which fuels the conflict today. Prior to the current outbreak of hostilities, the majority of the Israeli people also supported the end of Israel's occupation and oppression of these territories. They elected Yitzak Rabin as Prime Minister and Rabin made more strides towards achieving peace than any of his processors. The 1990's were a quiet years in Israel. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and Prime Minister Rabin appeared to have finally reached a peace deal the US acting as the mediator.
This did not sit well with the hard core Zionists who ultimately hope to expand Israel's borders even more. Hopes for a lasting peace deal were soon dealt a major setback when a flurry of five bullets were pumped into Prime Minister Rabin at close range as he was attending a 1995 Israeli peace rally. It was not an Arab that killed Rabin. It was a Zionist fanatic named Yigal Amir. Amir was a law student at Israel’s Bar-Ilan University. He later told investigators that he had no regrets for his actions. 44 Amir, a bright young law student was willing to throw his life away in the service of the Zionist cause. (More on that concept later on.)
At the head of the Israeli government today sits a brutal man who has been a guest of honor at George Bush's White House on a regular basis since he took office in October 2000. His name is Ariel Sharon. His fanatical Zionist supporters in Israel refer to him as "Arik King", but the Arabs know him as a lifelong butcher, terrorist, and war criminal. There was a time when Sharon was disgraced and his political career seemed to be over. The isolation of Ariel Sharon was the result a 1982 Palestinian massacre which Sharon engineered when he was Israel's Defense minister. It was the Israelis themselves who forced Sharon to resign.
Sharon's troops blocked the exits from the Sabra and Shattila refugee camps while a Lebanese militia, allied with the Israeli military, went into the camps and slaughtered more than 1,500 unarmed Palestinian civilians while raping many women. 45 Though these Lebanese militias were the ones who did the actual killing, it was Ariel Sharon who controlled the militias and it was Sharon's soldiers who stood by and blocked the camp exits, deliberately allowing the slaughter to take place.
A survivor of the attack who had been raped and shot went to Belgium and initiated a war crimes case against Sharon. Several Lebanese militia leaders were summoned to testify against Sharon. Shortly before their testimony, three of them were suddenly killed by unknown gunmen and car bombs. Israel's Mossad of course denied any responsibility for the strange and untimely deaths of these three witnesses against Sharon. 46 And if you believe that one, I’ll sell you the World Trade Center!
After nearly 20 years of political exile, Sharon made his comeback in October 2000. Knowing full well how much the Palestinians hated him for his role in the 1982 massacres, Sharon and a small army of Israeli soldiers showed up at the Temple Mount 47 - a site held sacred by both Muslims and jews. This was a deliberate provocation. When the Muslims protested the Sharon provocation, the Israeli troops cracked down. Rocks were thrown and shots were fired. In just a matter of minutes, years of peace and the Israeli-Arab peace effort had been destroyed by Mr. Sharon’s bullying antics. When the fighting broke out, a frightened and propagandized Israeli population soon turned to a strong man for their protection - the very man who had deliberately instigated the violence in the first place. Ariel Sharon was elected Prime Minister.
True to form, Sharon has brutalized the Palestinian civilian population under the pretext of "self-defense". Armed and funded by Israel's wholly owned US Congress, the Israeli war machine can bulldoze Arab homes at will. The only weapon that the outgunned Palestinians can retaliate with is the "suicide bomber". With every suicide bombing, Sharon is able to "justify" even more attacks and occupy more land. The Zionist game plan is to ultimately drive the Palestinians out of the West Bank and Gaza, just like the Irgun massacres had driven the Arabs out of Deir Yassin. Standing in the way of such a bold Zionist scheme were three major obstacles:
1. the force of world opinion. Prior to 9-11, the Palestinian struggle against Israeli occupation had gained the sympathy of many people around the world.
2. the force of Israeli domestic opinion (most Israelis wanted peace and were opposed to the 35 year occupation of Palestinian territories).
3. Saddam Hussein‘s Iraq, which had always been a champion of the cause of Palestinian self determination.
How useful it would be for the Zionists if some "incident" were to happen which would turn American and world opinion against the Palestinians and ultimately drag the US into a war against Israel's Arab enemies. Now you know why those Israelis were celebrating on 9-11!
ARIEL SHARON AND SOME OF HIS PALESTINIAN VICTIMS
ADVANCE WARNINGS
The days and hours leading up to 9-11 were marked by a series of chilling warnings about impending terrorist plots involving hijacked commercial airplanes. It's worth mentioning at this point that months before 9-11, the US had already informed some of its allies of plans to go to war in Afghanistan. On June 26, 2001, News Insight/India Reacts, an Indian public affairs magazine, wrote:
"India and Iran will "facilitate" US and Russian plans for "limited military action" against the Taliban if the contemplated tough new economic sanctions don't bend Afghanistan's fundamentalist regime. Indian officials say that India and Iran will only play the role of "facilitator" while the US and Russia will combat the Taliban from the front with the help of two Central Asian countries, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, to push Taliban lines back to the 1998 position 50 km away from Mazar-e-Sharief city in northern Afghanistan. Military action will be the last option though it now seems scarcely avoidable with the UN banned from Taliban-controlled areas" 48
The story of US military involvement in Afghanistan was reported months before 9-11 in Indian49 and British 50 publications but it was never reported in the US media. With the military plans already in motion since at least June of 2001, all that was needed was for an "incident" to take place to justify the US going to "war against Terrorism" in Afghanistan.
Here are just a few of the advance warnings which were brought to light in the aftermath of 9-11:
The London Daily Telegraph reported on September 16, 2001:
"The Telegraph has learned that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the FBI and CIA to the existence of a cell of as many as 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation. They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama Bin Laden and told American officials that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement." 51
Do you smell a "false flag" operation in the works? How is possible that the Mossad knew of the existence of these 200 terrorists but could not name or locate a single one? And how convenient for Israel that Saddam Hussein should be in cahoots with Osama Bin Laden, despite the fact that Bin Laden and Hussein hate each other!
The Franfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, (FAZ) one of Germany’s most respected newspapers, quoted German intelligence sources who said that the Echelon electronic spy network gave US and Israeli intelligence agencies several warnings that suicidal hijack attacks were being planned against US targets. 52 Echelon is capable of monitoring all of the electronic communication in the world. Utilizing 120 satellites, the Echelon system is designed to suck up enormous amounts of data by using keyword search techniques to sift through the data. 53
The San Francisco Chronicle reported on September 12 that San Francisco Mayor and former California Assembly Speaker Willie Brown was advised eight hours before the attacks that he should be careful about flying on 9-11. 54
In its September 24, 2001 issue, Newsweek Magazine broke this startling revelation:
"Three weeks ago there was another warning that a terrorist strike might be imminent… On September 10, Newsweek has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly cancelled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.". 55 (emphasis added)
Wow! Could these unnamed "top Pentagon officials" have been some of the Zionist directors of the Defense Policy Board which we talked about earlier? If these Pentagon officials were scared enough not to fly, then why didn’t the Pentagon place the Air Force on full alert? How could they have been so slow to react to 9-11 when they already knew there was a threat?
On September 27, The Washington Post reported that two workers of the Israeli company Odigo (with offices also in New York) received instant message warnings just two hours before the attacks. Here’s an excerpt from the Washington Post:
"Officials at instant-messaging firm Odigo confirmed today that two employees received text messages warning of an attack on the World Trade Center two hours before terrorists crashed planes into the New York landmarks" 56
Soon after the attacks, the Odigo employees informed the management of the electronic message they had received. Israeli security services were contacted and the FBI was informed. Nothing has been heard about this event since. I think it's safe to say that "Islamic terrorists" would not have been considerate enough to send detailed E-mail warnings to some obscure Israeli office workers.
LEFT: MAYOR WILLIE BROWN RECEIVED ADVANCE WARNING
RIGHT: NEWSWEEK'S EVAN THOMAS REPORTED THAT PENTAGON OFFICIALS CANCELLED THEIR 9-11 FLIGHTS.
THE SEPTEMBER 11 DANCE PARTY
Let us review what we have learned. We have clearly established that Zionists played a key role in steering the US into two World Wars. We have clearly established that Zionists do not care if Americans (or others) are killed to further their goals. We have clearly established that Zionists have a record of attacking Americans in order to frame Arabs. We have established that the Zionists are capable of acts of unspeakable brutality and genocide. We have established that US politicians fear the Zionist Mafia and defy them at their own peril. We have learned that warnings of a suicidal hijacking plot were issued to several people. And most importantly of all, we have clearly established that the Zionists have the capacity to make these amazing stories suddenly disappear from their controlled news media.
Having established these precedents, we can now easily deduce that the reason why those five dancing Israeli agents who celebrated the 9-11 attacks were so happy is because they knew that Americans would now become unconditional supporters of their "Israeli ally" and fanatical haters of Muslims and Arabs. On the day of the attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attack would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)" 57
The five Israelis made such a spectacle that everyone who saw them felt compelled to call the police. According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the first words out of the driver's (Sivan Kurzberg) lying mouth were: "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." 58 The police and FBI field agents became really suspicious when they found box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. 59
From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the Bergen Record that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were all joking about the attacks. The employee, who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me." 60
A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left with their furniture stuck in storage facilities. 61 The five Israeli army veterans (Mossad) were held in custody for several months before being quietly released. Some of the movers had been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days. 62
Immediately following the attacks, the Zionist controlled media was filled with stories linking the attacks to Bin Laden. TV talking-heads and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable. We were told that the reason Bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our "freedom" and "democracy". The Muslims were "medieval" and they wanted to destroy us because of our wealth. But Bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the 9-11 attacks:
"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks....The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." 63
To date, the only shred of "evidence" to be uncovered against Bin Laden was a highly suspicious, barely audible amateur video, that the Zionist dominated Pentagon just happened to find "lying around" in Afghanistan. Though there is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda "terrorist network" to these acts of terror; there is in fact a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that the Zionist Mafia has been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.
LEFT: BIN LADEN: " I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ATTACKS."
RIGHT: NETANYAHU: "ATTACKS ARE GOOD FOR US-ISRAEL RELATIONS."
WHO WAS REALLY FLYING THOSE PLANES ON 9-11?
Hours after the 9-11 attacks, authorities began to find clues conveniently left for them to stumble upon. The Boston Globe reported that a copy of the Koran, instructions on how to fly a commercial airplane and a fuel consumption calculator were found in a pair of bags meant for one of the hijacked flights that left from Logan. 64
Authorities also received a "tip" about a suspicious white car left behind at Boston's Logan Airport. An Arabic-language flight training manual was found inside the car. 65
How fortunate for investigators that the hijackers "forgot" to take their Koran and Arab flight manuals with them! Within a few days, all "19 hijackers" were "identified" and their faces were plastered all over our television screens.
Then, like a script from a corny "B" spy movie, the official story gets even more ridiculous. The passport of the supposed "ringleader" Mohammed Atta, somehow managed to survive the explosion, inferno, and smoldering collapse to be oh-so-conveniently "found" just a few blocks away from the World Trade Center! 66
It is obvious that this "evidence" was planted by individuals wishing to direct the blame towards Osama Bin Laden. How is it possible that Arab students who had never flown an airplane could take a simulator course and then fly jumbo jets with the skill and precision of "top-gun" pilots? It is not possible and the fact is, the true identities of the 9-11 hijackers remains a mystery. In the days following the disclosure of the "hijackers" names and faces, no less than 7 of the Arab individuals named came forward to protest their obvious innocence. 67
That's right! Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" are alive and well. They were victims of identity theft, some of whom had had their passports stolen. They were interviewed by several news organizations including the Telegraph of England. Here’s an excerpt from David Harrison’s Telegraph story entitled:
Revealed: The Men With Stolen Identities:
"Their names were flashed around the world as suicide hijackers who carried out the attacks on America. But yesterday four innocent men told how their identities had been stolen.
The men - all from Saudi Arabia - spoke of their shock at being mistakenly named by the FBI as suicide terrorists. None of the four was in the United States on September 11 and all are alive in their home country.
The Telegraph obtained the first interviews with the men since they learnt that they were on the FBI's list of hijackers who died in the crashes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.
All four said that they were "outraged" to be identified as terrorists. One has never been to America and another is a Saudi Airlines pilot who was on a training course in Tunisia at the time of the attacks. Saudi Airlines said it was considering legal action against the FBI for seriously damaging its reputation and that of its pilots." 68
(emphasis added)
The story of these identity thefts was also briefly reported by ABC 69 and BBC (England) 70 The FBI does not deny this. Nobody denies this fact because it is easily verifiable. Instead, the US media and government just ignore this inconvenient little fact and keep right on repeating the monstrous lie that the hijacker identities are known and that 15 of them were Saudis.
CNN revealed that FBI director Robert Mueller openly admitted that some of the identities of the 9-11 hijackers are in question due to identity theft. Here’s what CNN reported on September 21:
FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication. 71
This opens up a whole Pandora’s box of unanswered questions. First and foremost of which is this: why would Osama Bin laden, the Saudi Arabian caveman, steal identities? To cover his tracks you say? Next question: why would a Saudi Arabian, attempting to cover his tracks, steal the identities of....fellow Saudi Arabians??? What would be the point? Why go you through the trouble of stealing identities that would point back to you? Why not steal Greek identities, or Brazilian identities, or Turkish ones? A much more logical conclusion is that non-Arabs stole these identities as part of a "false flag" operation designed to point the blame at Arabs, and Saudi Arabs in particular.
What kind of a corrupt character is FBI boss Mueller? He initially admitted that false identities were involved with 9-11, but then he allows the media to keep naming these innocent, and alive, Arabs as the hijackers? Why doesn’t he correct them? More on the slimy Mr. Mueller later on!
Now I'm really going to rock your faith in the false religion of 9-11. In February of 2000, Indian intelligence officials detained 11 members of what they thought was an Al Qaeda hijacking conspiracy. It was then discovered that these 11 "Muslim preachers" were all Israeli nationals! India’s leading weekly magazine, The Week, reported:
On January 12 Indian intelligence officials in Calcutta detained 11 foreign nationals for interrogation before they were to board a Dhaka-bound Bangladesh Biman flight. They were detained on the suspicion of being hijackers. "But we realized that they were tabliqis (Islamic preachers), so we let them go", said an Intelligence official.
The eleven had Israeli passports but were believed to be Afghan nationals who had spent a while in Iran. Indian intelligence officials, too, were surprised by the nationality profile of the eleven. "They say that they have been on tabligh (preaching Islam) in India for two months. But they are Israeli nationals from the West Bank," said a Central Intelligence official. He claimed that Tel Aviv "exerted considerable pressure" on Delhi to secure their release. "It appeared that they could be working for a sensitive organization in Israel and were on a mission to Bangladesh," the official said. 72 (emphasis added)
What were these 11 Israelis doing trying to impersonate Al Qaeda men? Infiltrating?...perhaps. Framing?...more likely. But the important precedent to understand is this: Israeli agents were once caught red handed impersonating Muslim hijackers!
This event becomes even more mind boggling when we learn that it was Indian Intelligence that helped the US to so quickly identify the "19 hijackers"! On April 3, 2002, Express India, quoting the Press Trust of India, revealed:
Washington, April 3: Indian intelligence agencies helped the US to identify the hijackers who carried out the deadly September 11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, a media report said here on Wednesday. 73
Ain't that a kick in the ass?!! Did you catch that? The Indian intelligence officials that were duped into mistaking Israeli agents for Al Qaeda hijackers back in 2000, were the very same clowns telling the FBI who it was that hijacked the 9-11 planes! Keep in mind that Indian intelligence has an extremely close working relationship with Israel’s Mossad because both governments hate the Muslim nation of Pakistan. 74
Now about Mohamed Atta, you know, the so-called "ring leader". There are a number of inconsistencies with that story as well. Like some of the 7 hijackers known to be still alive, Atta also had his passport stolen in 1999, 75 (the same passport that miraculously survived the WTC explosion and collapse?) making him an easy mark for an identity theft. Atta was known to all as a shy, timid, and sheltered young man who was uncomfortable with women. 76 The 5 foot 7 inch, 150 pound architecture student was such a "goody two shoes" that some of his university acquaintances in Germany refrained from drinking or cursing in front of him. How this gentle, non- political mamma's boy from a good Egyptian family suddenly transformed himself into the vodka drinking, go-go girl groping terrorist animal described by the media, has to rank as the greatest personality change since another classic work of fiction, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Atta, or someone using Atta's identity, had enrolled in a Florida flight school in 2001 and then broke off his training, making it a point to tell his instructor he was leaving for Boston. In an October 2001 interview with an ABC affiliate in Florida, flight school president Rudi Dekkers said that his course does not qualify pilots to fly commercial jumbo jets. 77 He also described Atta as "an asshole". 78 Part of the reason for Dekker's dislike for Atta stems from a highly unusual incident that occurred at the beginning of the course. Here’s the exchange between ABC producer Quentin McDermott and Dekkers:
MCDERMOTT: "Why do you say Atta was an asshole?"
DEKKERS: "Well, when Atta was here and I saw his face on several occasions in the building, then I know that they're regular students and then I try to talk to them, it's kind of a PR - where are you from? I tried to communicate with him. I found out from my people that he lived in Hamburg and he spoke German so one of the days that I saw him, I speak German myself, I'm a Dutch citizen, and I started in the morning telling him in German, "Good morning. How are you? How do you like the coffee? Are you happy here?", and he looked at me with cold eyes, didn't react at all and walked away. That was one of my first meetings I had." 79
This is eerily similar to the way in which Zacharias Moussaoui (the so-called "20th hijacker") became "belligerent" when his Minnesota flight instructor tried to speak to him in French (his first language), at the beginning of that course. The Minnessota Star Tribune reported on December 21, 2001:
"Moussaoui first raised eyebrows when, during a simple introductory exchange, he said he was from France, but then didn't seem to understand when the instructor spoke French to him. Moussaoui then became belligerent and evasive about his background, (Congressman) Oberstar and other sources said. In addition, he seemed inept in basic flying procedure, while seeking expensive training on an advanced commercial jet simulator." 80 (emphasis added)
It truly is an amazing twist of fate that both Atta and Moussaoui both had American flight instructors who spoke German and French respectively. Even the great Mossad could not have foreseen such a coincidence! The real Atta would have been able to respond to his instructor’s German small talk and the real Moussaoui would have been able to respond to his instructor’s French small talk. Atta just walked away and Moussaoui threw a fit! Neither responded because neither could. They were imposters, whose faces were probably disguised by a make up artist. Their mission was to frame the two innocent Arabs who were probably targeted by the Mossad at random.
The imposter was able to create a new Atta by using Atta's stolen passport from 1999 - the same passport that floated safely to the ground with a few burnt edges on 9-11. These strange inconsistencies tend to give support to Mohammed Atta's father's claim that he spoke over the phone with his son on September 12th, the day after the attacks. 81 Could a group of professionals have abducted and killed the real Atta in the days following the 9-11 attacks? Mossad agents, posing as "art students" were arrested after conducting some type of operation in Hollywood, Florida, the same small town that Atta stayed in! 82 So what happened to the real Mohammed Atta? To quote his grief stricken father: "Ask Mossad!".
So who, if not the "19 Arabs" was on those planes? That’s the million dollar question! There are a number of alternative scenarios. Could some Israelis have been fanatical enough to have volunteered for such a suicide mission? Odd as that may sound at first, it is not out of the realm of possibility. The fact is, hard-core Zionist extremists have proven themselves to be every bit as fanatical, (more so), than Arab extremists.
A nation which can produce thousands of bloodthirsty Zionist extremists, Irgun war criminals, Mossad terrorists who blow up occupied buildings, assassins who kill Israeli Prime Ministers in full view of policemen, and crazed killers who have carried sickening massacres of Arab women and children; would surely be capable of recruiting a few fanatics willing to sacrifice for "the cause". This theory becomes even more plausible when we consider that only the pilots would have needed to know that the planes were on a suicide mission.
Still don’t think Israel is capable of producing suicidal terrorists? Have you already forgotten the case of Dr. Baruch Goldstein?. Goldstein was a New York doctor and resettled in Israel. On February 25, 1994, Goldstein walked into a crowded Arab mosque in the occupied West Bank. With hundreds of worshippers kneeled in silent prayer, Goldstein sealed off the exit, and opened fire with a rapid-firing assault rifle, killing 29 and wounding many more. Goldstein, a father of four, was finally stopped and killed when the frenzied crowd overpowered him. With as many as 800 worshippers packed into the mosque, Goldstein surely could not have been expecting to come out alive. This was clearly a suicide attack. And what did Goldstein’s mother have to say about her son’s suicide attack? The Boston Globe revealed:
"The mother of Baruch Goldstein, the Jewish settler who massacred about 40 Palestinians in a Hebron mosque a week ago, says she is proud of her son. "I always thought to myself, When would someone get up and do such a thing? And in the end, my son did it," Miriam Goldstein told the weekly Shishi newspaper." 83
It gets even more sickening than that. Baruch Goldstein has become a folk hero among many of the crazed side-locked settlers who have encroached upon the West Bank. They have turned Goldstein’s gravesite into a memorial and set up a website to honor his murderous deed! Look what these fanatics posted on the Goldstein memorial website:
Over the years, the grave has become a site of pilgrimage. Numerous people from all over the world come to pray and honor his (Baruch’s) memory. 84
(emphasis added)
One has to wonder if some of Goldstein’s admirers were flying those planes on 9-11. There is one interesting side note here which may or may not be of any significance. One of the two Israelis who died aboard the hijacked planes was Daniel Lewin - who was aboard the first plane to crash into the Twin Towers. The Ha‘aretz News Service of Israel revealed that Lewin, was a one-time officer in the Israeli Defense Forces elite Sayeret Matkal commando unit. 85 Oddly enough, Lewin’s name is missing from CNN’s comprehensive September 11 Memorial website.
Another possibility is that some other group of "patsies" was recruited for the operation. Perhaps some anarchists, or some leftover Marxists who thought they were going to bring down western capitalism. Or perhaps, the hijackers were another group of angry Arabs who weren’t even aware of who their true handlers really were or what the broader strategic aim of the mission actually was. In the dark world of covert operations, agents are often kept ignorant of who it is that orchestrating the show.
Admittedly, these scenarios are speculative, but one thing that is not speculative is this: the hijackers were not the 19 men whose faces were shown on our TV screens!
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WHO PROVIDED THE PROTECTIVE COVER FOR THE 9-11 OPERATION?
On October 26, 1999, the famous golfer Payne Stewart boarded a private Learjet in Florida and left for Texas. Shortly after takeoff, Stewart's jet veered sharply off course and began heading northwest. All contact with air controllers was lost. Within 15 minutes of having gone off course, US fighter jets had already intercepted the jet. Everyone on board was likely dead due to depressurization. These fighter jets were dispatched by NORAD, the branch of the US air force whose job it is to monitor and defend US airspace 24 hours a day. NORAD maintains a huge array of land based radar systems and has fighter jets on alert 24 hours a day so that they can respond to a crisis. The jets escorted the doomed airplane until another group of Air National Guard jets took over the escort mission. Finally, Stewart's jet ran out of fuel a crashed in South Dakota. The quick reaction time and military precision with which NORAD intercepted and escorted Stewart's jet was impressive, and exactly what one would have expected from the greatest military power in world history. 86
But on 9-11, the same NORAD which had so effortlessly intercepted Stewart's jet in 1999, was nowhere to be found during that two hour period between the first planes going off course and the last one crashing in a Pennsylvania field. How is it possible that the airspace between Boston and Washington DC, an area which contains the political and economic heart of the nation, was left completely defenseless? The second plane to hit the New York had flown off course without communication for 40 minutes. On its way to New York, it actually flew within a few miles of McGuire Air Force base in New Jersey, after the first tower had already been hit! And how is it possible that Washington DC was left undefended (long after the New York attacks) when Andrews Air Force base is within car driving distance? The air force jets which did finally arrive were too late. Was this due to NORAD's incompetence, or was the order to scramble the fighter jets deliberately delayed so that the terror attacks could take place. Given NORAD's impressive performance in the 1999 Payne Stewart disaster, this would suggest that someone high up in the Air Force establishment may have issued stand down orders to some of our Air Force bases. Remember, the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board is headed by Zionist Richard Perle and his gang of warmongering lackeys.87 The civilians on this board wield the power to promote career minded Generals and Admirals. Is it really that hard to believe that a highly placed military leader could have collaborated with the true 9-11 planners?
What makes the Air Force's slow response even more outrageous and suspicious is that previously mentioned Newsweek article which revealed that several Pentagon leaders (Defense Policy Board?) cancelled flight plans for September 11 due to security concerns.88 There were other warning signals too which we’re reviewed earlier. In light of all these warnings, why wasn’t NORAD and it's armada of fighters placed on an even higher alert than they already are? There is only one logical answer to these questions: Certain Pentagon leaders were "in on it".
General Hamid Gul, a former Director of Pakistani Intelligence hit the nail on the head with his analysis:
"The attacks against New York and Washington were Israeli engineered."
"The attacks started at 8:45, and four flights are diverted from their assigned air space and no Air Force fighter jets scramble until 10:00. Radars are jammed, transponders fail and no IFF - friend or foe identification - challenge. In Pakistan, if there is no response to an IFF, jets are instantly scrambled. This was clearly an inside job. Will this also be hushed up in the investigation, like the Kennedy assassination?" 89
This raises another troubling set of questions. Surely the masterminds of the 9-11 operation would have taken the time to learn something about US air defense procedures. They would therefore have realized that hitting New York City with jets hijacked from Boston would have been difficult. New York is about 30 minutes away by airplane and jumbo jets fly very slowly when compared to US fighter jets that can crack the sound barrier. Even with a 15-20 minute head start, NORAD's jets could have easily intercepted them, especially the second plane, which took a longer route to New -
So I will do it in shifts. Bear with me.
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To begin with I am neither pro or anti zionist, If that makes sense. I always welcome informed debate, but it seems to me that you look with a very slanted eye at historyFirstly, you cannot simply disregard the facts that do not support your argument concerning world war 1. War was, at that time, probably sadly ineviatable. However, it did not start because of some zionist conspiracy. To simply ignore the huge range of non-jew related factors is facile and disingenuos. With regards to your account of the end of WW1- I strongly beg to differ. At the end of 1916 Britain wasn't blockaded by Uboats. in fact for the duration of WW1 the royal navy had organised a fairly effective blockade on German sea ports. The decision to sink the lusitania was a result of this blockade and was a calculated risk made by German high command to attempt to form a blockade of their own through unrestricted U-boat activity. It was, obviously a disastrously bad decision. You, on the other hand, seem to think it was part of some overarching conspiracy (I infer this from the spurious use of inverted commmas around incident). Austria and the Ottoman empire particularly could not have been said to be winning the war as they were suffering disastrously from both internal strife and the ongiong war of attrition. I think the best description of the situation on all sides was devastating stalemate. Germany was still suffering all the disastrous effects of a war on 2 fronts and were not informed of the situation in Russia- which hadn't reached tipping point yet. Therefore to say that the British/ America/ Zionist evil-doers cut a deal to throttle the Ottoman empire (which had been referred to as "The sick man of Europe" for a long time prior and was on the verge of implosion) is overly reducitonist to say the least. The waning german interest did not need inflaming by the pro-zion media, as the devastating effects of the wholesale slaughter that was taking place was actually disheartening all participants (A good example, and I am aware that it is fiction (and therefore not gospel)is in All Quiet on The Western Front- Remarque's highly personal account of war features the disillusionment of the German army- including the increasing age of recruits, lack of equipment, etc- all of which were experienced first hand by the author. The Treaty of Versailles in particular was just one of a group of treaties that were forced upon the losing side. The treaty(ies) that handled Palestine and the Ottoman empire were Sevres and Lausanne. However, the strongest motivator in the TOV (i can't be bothered to type that out every time) was the French demand for vengeance. Now, in this instance they put up the seizure of Alsace Lorraine, the brutal reparation clause, the admittance of all wrongdoing, and the forbidding of anschluss. This was still not a zionist plot. Although there was a zionist contingent, the main points of the TOV, especially those that had a direct influence on the rise of the Nazi party were pushed through by the French. To the benefit of the French, and had less than nothing to do with PalestineThe Treaty of Lausanne was the revision that took place after the Turks won their war of independance and rejected sevres. Therefore, in this instance it is necessary to look at the aims of the treaty. The Ottoman Empire was in serious decline. It had expanded beyond any reasonable boundary for control and was filled with warring tribes. It was economically in decline, and furthermore technologically backward. If the Empire disintegrated under it's own impetus (which looked likely, especially after the disastrous War) the knock on effect does not bear thinking about. It was an attempt to manage the disintegration, and hopefully satisfy the demands for independence that were made by the various factions. It was also, like Versailles, an ill considered cock up. The Balfour declaration was a hideously misguided and frankly ridiculous attempt at gutter politics. It was drafted in 1916, and published after that but it was really just a horribly embarrasing blunder.I am amazed that you think a zionist cartel ran germany before WWII as it clearly and irrefutably didn't. I am not going to argue about the current zionist influence as it doesn't interest me. It seems to me that you are of a very leftist slant. When you look at history you seem to cherry pick facts that fit your interpretation, and are needed to back up a predetermined hypothesis. I am not backing down on this, but there isn't any reason to rehash everything with you ad nauseum as you will not ever concede any ground towards the middle. I, on the other hand, will concede ground to the left (Cf balfour declaration)- but as you remain adamantly convinced, due to the fact that you ignore the facts that don't fit, this will degenerate into a "you are wrong and I am right bitching session"- which neither appeals nor interests me. So I am happy to leave it at this point. If you want a refinement of anything that I have written (none of which is contentious and all of which is easily verifiable) then ask. Ciao, I'm off to type FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= whatever in a TF talkback, which is what this forum should be used for.
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In honour of that: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HIGHBROW DEBATE ON AICN
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I have consistently been reasonable about what Mel did or didn't say, but in this case he was being bigoted. Whether or not it deserved to have him labelled as a nazi is a different issue. As a repetition of the facts alone it is pretty irrefutable, a statement like "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." is bigoted- there really is no two ways about it.
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Brokeback...did you actually read through that cut & paste "anti- Jewish Greatest hits" screed that was posted? Anyway, did you check the citations at the end? Among the usual suspects was "Who Controls America" by the William L. Pierce, the late National Alliance leader and author of THE TURNER DIARIES. How reliable do you think he is? I won't get into Israel and Zionism right now, but do really agree with RedRocketHood that Zionists instigated World War I and II and caused 9/11? I really thought you were more sensible than that.
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http://tinyurl.com/gztzm
Willis Carto, founder of the Barnes Review is one of the leading lights of the anti-Jewish and Holocaust Denial movements in the US since World War II.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Carto
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The duration of appeasement, was a disgrace. But by 1939 the political climate in the UK had changed and appeasement was off the agenda. This was not a zionist movement- the faction leader was Churchill Germany straight up invaded Poland. It was nothing to do with disputed territory- it was in fact keeping with Hitler's policy of Lebensraum. Secondly, quoting that anti-semitic racist piece of shit Beaverbrook is hugely unreliable. And as a source not worthy of mention. Reparations had actually ceased to be paid far previous to that, and are no factor in the onset of WWII. Hitler's last will and testament that you lovingly quote is the most spurious and bin-worthy source you could find, in fact it is not even worthy of consideration. I find it surprising that, you would consider the words of the most famous anti-semite of them all as being a fitting part of any debate.Hitler was never elected. Fact. He lost 2 presidential elections and was ushered into power under the misguided belief Bruening held that he was easier to control within power. The german people were not overly convinced by his anti-semitic rhetoric, and the attempts to blame the defeat in WWI on the jews.Pearl Harbour was another consequence of military aggression, with no Zionist link. The Japanese knew that an attempt at dominance in the Pacific would eventually drag isolationist America into the war. Therefore the (again stupid) decision was made to pre-emptively strike, and hopefully devastate the US airforce at Pearl Harbour. I find it amazing that you think this was an manufactured zionist plot. cheers for wading through that, anyone that did. I hope it is enough of a rebuttal as I really don't want to cut and paste a list of sources.
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I meant Papen not breuning- And it was a coalition government that he squished. Sorry all.
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Yeah, that's the first thing I think about when I'm hammered and pulled over for drunk driving at 3 in the morning.
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RedRocketHood - you bring that ridiculous novella of a post up on AICN's volume??? Gee, you must have been saving that one up for awhile now, eh tiger? Yeah, no one writes that shite up off the top of their head unless they got a WHOLE lot o' bookmarks holding their breath. *** Brokeback and LP - are you guys totally insane? Unless you really crave the stench of zfisk, I suggest you don't get into these discussions ever again. That is a fuckin' order the from the Prince of TalkBack Darkness himself. Whomever he may be...
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and it's still one of the best and most influential documentaries ever made. Apococalypto looks fascinating, and promises to be better than 90% of the shit now playing at your local mutliplex. I'm there.
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you are right. I should know better. Will stop.
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