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Harrison Ford and the next Jack Ryan film...

Hey folks, Harry here with the lastest tracking information on what is happening with Harrison Ford. Word on a fourth Indiana Jones film is that it ain't happening... no way, no how, but over on that... other Ford series, JACK RYAN films, well there is movement.

It seems that after filming finishes on Robert Zemeckis' WHAT LIES BENEATH, a sort of paranormal story of a classic-style true-feeling ghost story, that isn't a 'what goes bump in the night' type of film. Well after he shoots that, he's looking to make, THE SUM OF ALL FEARS it seems. As of yet, I haven't heard of a director attachment... yet, but... there is a screenwriter attached writing the adapted screenplay... His name is AKIVA GOLDSMAN.

I had heard this a while back, but since I hadn't heard whether or not Harrison was interested in it... well it just didn't interest me. For those that don't know, the basic premise has to do with a Arab terrorists, a missing Israeli nuclear device, edgy relations between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, and all the typical groovy Clancy cloak and dagger and beauracratic red tape hell that is in his Jack Ryan series.

Keep your ears perked up for this one folks, it could be cool if it lands in the right director's hands... As for Akiva... well nothing I'm gonna say is going to stop the 'furious anger' that is inevitably going to be being expressed below....

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  • Jan. 20, 1999, 12:16 a.m. CST


    by cmore

    If the man in the hat wont come back at least we get Jack! One of the few good series still left in Hollywood. Glad to here it. When is the potential release date?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Why Hackiva?

    by Doughboy

    The report that Hackiva Goldsman has been tapped to write the screenplay is old news, but it still begs the question: WHY?! Did Mace Neufeld(or whatever the producer's name is) actually see Crapman & Robin or Lost In Space? While Hackiva doesn't deserve all of the blame for these debacles(DIE, SH-TMAKER, DIE!), he does deserve a great deal of it. Especially for Lost In Space. He not only scripted but also produced that flick and was responsible for the hiring of Stephen Hopkins as director. And it doesn't end there. WB, being the brilliant studio it is, has allowed the Hackman to do a rewrite on Practical Tragic and produce its upcoming megabudgeted shark flick, Deep Blue Sea. DBS actually has a solid script, so I hope Hackiva's presence doesn't f-ck it up. The reason I'm bringing all this stuff up is because I'd really like for someone to explain to me how in the hell this no-talent loser is not only still working in Hollywood, but is actually involved with some fairly high-profile projects. Can someone please enlighten me, cuz I just don't get it.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:13 a.m. CST

    If he screws this one up....

    by Peel

    Let's just hope that Goldsman does a good job with The Sum of All Fears. I'd hate to see the Jack Ryan films go the way of Batman & Robin. If that does happen, I say we find Goldsman and tar and feather his ass!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Harrison Ford's acting

    by mckracken

    didnt anybody read that news clip that they have a working script for...wait...."Indiana Jones and the Sword of Arthur" written by Jeffery Boem. Don't believe this project is dead. Second ...Lanemyer, although you have a valid point about this Hackiva writer guy, you're as big an idiot as they come and should go beat yourself with a sillystick until you grow a brain, there's absolutly nothing wrong with Harrison Ford's acting. You want me to list a piss poor actor: MATTHEW BRODRICK. And what does the sexual preference of actress Anne Heche have to do with her acting talents anyway? NOTHING!!!! You have no basis AT ALL for what you say other than pure hatred and slander!!!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Phillip Noyce

    by John Shaft

    Whatever you do, do not get Phillip Noyce to direct this, or any other, film. This man cannot direct to save his life. Dead calm was a fluke, and an over-rated one at that. Both of his Jack Ryan films sucked. The only good Jack Ryan film was The Hunt For Red October, and that was directed by John McTerinan. Sliver was the biggest load of shit ever, a boring erotic thriller. How Sharon Stone managed to masterbate with both hands on the side of the tub is beyond me. As for The Saint, he has killed that series off before it really began. Hollywood. Never, ever hire either Phillip Noyce or Stephen Hopkins to direct a film. Ever. Mind you, Brian Levant is even worse. Are these people crap directors? Damn Right. Can you Diggit?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Ryan's Slaughter

    by Sardonicus

    If I weren't of the same mind, I'd think that Akiva Goldsman deserves better treatment than he's been getting from Web denizens of late. That much said, I think he should be taken out to sea in a rowboat, smeared with chum and left for shark bait. The Ryan series has only been as good as the screenplays, with Red October being the strongest due to the general feeling among it's creators that the film be stupendous. Now it seems Paramount is content with one good film out of three. Patriot Games is stereotypical in its treatment of the villains and Clear and Present Danger doesn't let its supporting characters breathe as much as it favors Ford. Their tentpole franchise mentality forces Paramount to compromise time and time again. Aborted attempts at a series of films include The Shadow and The Phantom, both of which were light on story and long on production design. Now they hand their best cards to Akiva. Can you hear the bells? Jack Ryan is dead, long live Jack Ryan.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Too much Hatred!

    by The Quest

    Do we really need calls for people to die - I really think this unnecessary and quite disturbing. If this is the way you conduct your life, you must be very unhappy - if you don't like someone - hey vent your opinion, but don't call for death!! As for Harrison Ford - he can still open a film for me and will continue to do so for many years I feel and I agree with Mckracken - what has the sexual preference of ANY actor got to do with their abilities!!!!!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Mixed feelings

    by Big Red One

    I don't really know how to react to this bit of news. I love the books but Clear and Present Danger sucked so badly that I'm just not sure they should continue. They just changed the plot and character outlines too much, making Ritter into a right bast***, altering the shootout thing. In fact now I think about it they cut out one pit of the plot whilst not really needed for that flick, is a major part of Sum of all fears and I don't mean killing Dan Murray (who becomes head of the FBI later in the series!) Having said this IMHO, Willam Dafoe excelled as Clark so perhaps a film of Rainbow Six or No Remorse?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 4:27 a.m. CST

    Ford Focus

    by JJ McClure

    Listen, I gotta agree with LaneMyers on this one. Harrison Ford (As much as I LOVE his earlier work) is the most miserable fucking slouch in movies today. The fact that he's a cynical old bastard is old news, but does he really have to let his brand of doleful indifference seep on to the screen. I got one word that describes his performances of late - monotonous. Any continuation of the Jack Ryan series is gonna suck twice as hard as the previous piss-poor offerings. And Akiva Goldsman. HOW CAN HE EXIST?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 4:51 a.m. CST

    John-boy Clark

    by eccy

    Yeah, why not make a movie of No Remorse while Willem Dafoe is still young. A little make up and soft lighting should do the trick. He is far more interesting as a character than Jack Ryan and didn't occupy nearly enough screen time in C&PD. And despite the fact that I am NOT let Phillip Noyce touch it!!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Willem Dafoe-"No Remorse"

    by smilin'jackruby

    I am not the only one who would fly a thousand miles and wade through swamps to see something like this movie happen. That would have the potential to be one of the most ass-kicking fantastic super-cool action/spy picks in a looooong time.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 5:46 a.m. CST


    by torrance

    Geez Lousie, why Akiva fuckin

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 5:55 a.m. CST

    top 10 scribes...?

    by superstar

    All this talk of Hackiva Goldsman had me wondering...WHO ARE THE FAVOURITE SCREENWRITERS WORKING RIGHT NOW? Is there anyone new to look out for in any genre? Is anyone's writing worth writing about? If so, who?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 6:28 a.m. CST

    DwD: Noyce's Niche

    by DwDunphy

    Phillip Noyce is definitely the man for this. With the previous two Ryans with Ford, Noyce has displayed the tension control Tom Clancy's books create from page to page. Now, if John McTiernan (Red October) wanted to take another crack at it, i wouldn't begrudge it... but my money's on Noyce. Oh please oh please Mr. Goldsman, don't hold this series hostage like you did with Batman. (Side note: How can they do The Sum Of All Fears when, I believe, it took place before Patriot Games and Clear And Present Danger?)

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 6:30 a.m. CST

    John Clark

    by svenex

    I agree, that John Clark became the more interesting character. He is the protagonist in the latest Clancy book 'RAINBOW SIX'. I haven't read this book but it sounds more like the good-old-spy-thing with a lot of under-cover-action. Jack Ryan slowly degenerates to a politican than an action-hero. I've got enough of the I-don't-want-this-mess-but-a-man's-gotta-do-what-a-man's-gotta-do-stuff. In the meantime Ryan is the president of the U.S. in the Clancy novels. Hey! What about relaunching 'Airforce One' when the Ryan-show reaches this point? Name the president Ryan and call the film 'Tom Clancy's Airforce One'. Nobody would remark the difference.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 6:34 a.m. CST

    It's True About Ford

    by gsolo

    Who needs another Clancy film?... Directed by Noyce?...Starring Ford? Not too many of us. Red October was great. Baldwin IS Ryan. He played him a million times better than Ford. Ford does not know what he is doing any longer. His film choices are lousy. Remember Blade Runner, Mosquito Coast, Raiders, Witness, hell even Working Girl? Those days are far behind him. Now we are blessed with such masterworks as Sabrina, Six Days, the mutilated Clancy films, and possibly the worst...Devil's Own. That's coming from a huge Ford fan. Time to move on and pay someone new $20,000,000 per.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 6:35 a.m. CST

    scribe's as stars...

    by superstar

    Deuce,have you checked out LA's FADE IN: MAGAZINE? As far as screenwriting mags go it's pretty good. Last one I saw had interviews with Robert Towne, Gary Ross, Tony Kaye, Willard Carroll, Joseph Stefano and a scene from Killing Mrs. Tingle. Check it out one time won't u...

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Akiva "fuckman and Goblin" Goldsman

    by Dante`s inferno

    AKiva "FUCKMAN AND GOBLIN" Goldsman can continue to work on Warner projects. I was looking forward to this new Ryan flick and Deep blue sea, but not anymore. Put this guy out of his misery please....

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Harrison Ford

    by In the know


  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Harrison Ford

    by In the know

    I can't belive what i'm reading here. Never in a million years did i think someone would say that Harrison Ford (a.k.a. the great one)could not act. How much crack were you smoking when you though of that. Harrison Ford is the most underrated actor in the history of actors. And, for the guy that said Tommy Lee Jones made the Fugitive. Fuck You!!! It is much harder to act without words, and to just use facial exprecions -- than it is to have some gun-ho carracter that realies on witty lines. Don't get me wrong, Tommy Lee Jones is a great actor, but Ford made that movie. And for those of you who think Ford's acting in "Patriot Games" sucks -- fuck you too!!! Need I mention another scene than the one when the camera is on Ford's face, while he is watching the IRA camp being destroyed. If you want to know what acting is, then watch that scene. Or, how about in AFO, Garry Oldman smacks Ford -- now thats acting. Anyone can speak a line, but it takes talent to express a line.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:03 a.m. CST

    I'm skeptical the Jack Ryan express is still going...

    by amh4

    As anyone who follows Tom Clancy knows, he's in the process of going thru a crappy divorce. As part of the settlement, his wife wants half of the value of the Jack Ryan intellectual property. Why do you think Jack Ryan is no where to be found in Rainbow Six? Why do you think his holding company changed from Jack Ryan Enterprises to Rubicon (look up the word Rubicon). Jack Ryan is no longer. Unless he sold this idea before the divorce, I can't imagine he's going to do anything that will allow his soon-to-be-ex to get any more money; if for no other reason that the divorce kept him from buying the Minnesota Vikings last year.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:05 a.m. CST


    by geekie

    Ok now, while i agree Baldwin was better Jack ryan than Ford, i wouldnt mind seeing him in this flick. Because he is not tht bad and more imprtantly, this flick would be all eye-candy. And i mean that in a good way! Ok, so the novel had a slow first 6-7 hundred pages..but! The ending is absolutely great!!!!!! That ending made 'the sum...' the best clancy's novel for me. About directors...i agree p. noyce would suck at it...the man can't direct an action-packed, special effect scens for shit! But, Mctiernan is a good choice...dunno if he's attached to this project. I also heard about W. Petersen directing this...first i though he'd be perfect..but when i saw AFO (on video) i had to rethink that...well, anyway...just don't let that goldman fella this and don't spare money on the ending scenes..(ILM, Digital Domain?) and you Paramount guys will have a genuine blockbuster on your hands. (BTW does any one know how will they solve the coldwar problem? In the book it is all happening while russians were still a force to be they are just a gimmick)

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Protecting Akiva

    by D'Amour

    Mr. Knowles... why do express exasperation over the inevitably poor reaction to Akiva writing a Jack Ryan film? While many entrees may not be written as well thought-out critiques, they can hardly be considered mislead. Akiva's reputation speaks for itself. People have a right to worry. When there are so many capable, talented screenwriters out there, it's a shame that Akiva is allowed to contort and ruin an established run of here-to-fore entertaining films.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:30 a.m. CST


    by The Cronick

    Why don't the make a movie out of Rainbow Six? Now that would be cool

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Lowly pieces of trash jealous of Ford

    by Stone Cold

    Who are you big chunks of monkey crap to even talk bad about Harrison Ford? You pieces of trash, like LameMyers (no that is not a typo, I meant to use Lame) are just 10 ponds of monkey crap in a five pound bag and have no right to even speak the name Ford. Get a damn life you jabrony. Harrison Ford is one of the few actors who actually deserves the 20+ million each film he recieves. Why? because he is the man and one of the few remaining actors that can still consistently entertain. So know your damn role and watch what you say next time jabrony, or you will get the smack down. And that's the bottom line, cuz Stone Cold said so!!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Top 10 Writers in Hollywood right now

    by Rick_Blaine

    In my opinion: 1. Andrew Kevin Walker (Red White, Black & Blue & Sleepy Hollow) 2. Andrew Niccol (Truman Show, Gattaca) 3. Frank Darabont (Shawshank Redemption & Green Mile) 4. Adam Herz (Great Falls) is an up and comer 5. Kevin Williamson (Scream & Killing Mrs. Tingle) 6. Kevin Smith (Clerks & Dogma)but not Superman 7. Scott Frank (Out of Sight & Get Shorty) 8. David Mamet (Glen Gary Glen Ross & Spanish Prisoner) 9. Shane Black (Lethal Weapon & The Last Boyscout) 10. Steven Zaillian (Fresh, Civil Action, & Schindler's List) I know that I might have forgotten some people, but I think this is a pretty good bunch.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 8:57 a.m. CST

    John Clark

    by S.C. THX1138

    Count me in the camp that would love to see some good films made of Clancy's John Clark books, especially "Without Remorse." Damn pity that Savoy Films folded a few years back; they had that project in the works, with Gary Sinise set to play a young Mr. C, before he became Mr. C. Willem Defoe was good as Clark in "Clear and Present Danger," but he's too old for "Witout Remorse" and too young yet for "Rainbow Six." Reading that one, I saw Ed Harris in Clark's role, as he's about 55 nowadays...

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Harry Ford

    by John Shaft

    So, Stone Cold and all you other people out there who cannot bear to hear anything bad said about Harrison Ford. Are you people actually admitting to liking his recent films? Are you saying that Six Days Seven Nights is an hilariious comedy, and Harrison totally convinces during his drunk scene? Was The Devils Own Alan Pakula's (RIP) Best film, which gave a totally convincing and accurate synopsis of the troubles in Northern Island? Are you saying that any interview with Harrison Ford is totally riviting, and when he talks about films, he keeps you glued to the set? Are his later films even better than the Indy and Star Wars films of his youth? Do you agree with everything I have written without tracing even a hint of sarcasm in these words? Admit it. Harrison Ford has made some great films, but are they great because of him? If he was the reason Star Wars was so succesful, then episode 1 should flop, shouldn't it? Lets hope not.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Fade In: etc...

    by superstar

    Deuce, I've seen Creative Screenwriting and Script (and a couple of others not worth mentioning) but Fade In:, particularly these days, is rocking like no other mag on the subject. If you're trying to write it's good to read about screenwriters who are 'doing it'. I just hope they don't put Goldsman on the cover but they tend to go cooler than that, thank god. Saw that someone put Shane Black in a Top 10 of writers. Not sure if he still counts after Long Kiss but his next is supposed to be different I think I heard. Hope so... Frank Darabont however, that's a different matter...

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Jack Ryan & Tom Clancy

    by SpaceBar

    Good grief. I won't even begin to address some of the stuff that's been spewed. I have one word for you people: adaptation. Clancy's books (while not milestone novels and with admittedly cardboard characters, are entertaining yarns) have been hacked up for these flicks since day one. Yes, even Hunt for Red October. Read the book if you don't believe me. They got progressively worse from there. Leave the adaptations to people who know what they're doing (Let's hear it for FRANK DARABONT!! Shawshank, best adaptation EVER). I never needed any Jack Ryan movies in the first place and I don't need any more. And if anybody still cares, Harrison Ford wasn't my imagined Jack Ryan, but it certainly wasn't Alan freaking Baldwin either. What a joke.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Shane Black

    by John Shaft

    This new script from Shane Black. It wouldn't happen to be an action/crime flick about someone who teams up with a black dude, would it? As we all know, there is only one black private dick you is a sex machine with all the chicks. Do you know who he is? Shaft? Damn Right. Can you diggit?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:19 a.m. CST

    John Shaft

    by Stone Cold

    What I am saying, jabrony, is that Harrison Ford is still a good actor. I am not saying, nor have I said that he is the best actor. No, all of his movies are not the best movies in the world. However, they are still entertaining. Ford is entertaining, I believe were my words. Never once did I state that Star Wars was successful because of him. However, He was a big part of it. Lets face it, every movie he is in is either a major blockbuster, or a decent entertaining film. That is why I said that you jabronies have no reason to be saying that Ford has lost it. Oh yeah one more thing, you sicken me. And that's the bottom line, cuz Stone Cold said so!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Hey Shaft!!!!

    by In the know

    Ok, are those "bad films", mentioned by you, bad because of Harrison Ford, or are they the result of a typical fuck up by an over zealous studio? A movie can only be as good as the script allows it to be. Ford is not responsible for those films flopping, but i'm willing to bet he's responsible for every dollar they brought in. It is true that Ford has not appeared in a movie as good as a Star Wars or Indy film, but thats because those types of films arn't written anymore. I think its funny how you and others are quick to deny Ford the reasons of Indy success, but you same people will blame flops on him. Bottom line, you put Tom Selleck in Raiders, and it wouldn't have made half as much. Why? Because he's a limmited actor. He can't sell all of his emotions, on screen, as can Ford. There is no other actor in the business that is as expressive as Ford. There are two types of acting: finding yourself within the character, and finding the character within yourself. Which type is used, is based strickly on the written character, and the actor chosen to play the role. This is exactly why we have actors and why we have movie stars. In case you have forgotten -- Ford is a movie star, and movie stars can bring audiences to a bad movie, and they can make a good movie a great movie. If you take Ford out of Star Wars, you cut the legs off of those movies. If you take Ford out of Indy, you remove the heart from those films. Name one other actor who can speak the lines "Fly yes -- land - no" -- better than Harrison Ford, and with that kind of conviction, humor, and expresion. Ford is Indy.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Total Cack

    by John Shaft

    The devils Own flopped. Six Days Seven Nights Flopped, and was 1.5 hours too long. I saw this film for hald price on national cinema day, and I still asked for my money back. Harrison has made some good films. He has also made some shite. And he is the dullest interviewee ever.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Harrison Schmarrison

    by JJ McClure

    OK, I think we've established that Harrison Ford was in some excellent movies early on, and nowadays he's in some shit ones, and yadda yadda yadda. Here's the rub: "The Sum of all Fears" isn't going to be very good, and futhermore Ford's performance is going to be half-hearted. Now, who needs that?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Wrestling Fans Can't know what Acting Is

    by AnamorphicRulez!

    How can you even comment on acting Stone Cold. You watch that fake piece of crap every week and cheer to it like it's real, give me a break loser. All you have to do is see all the movies that wrestlers have made in the past and then you know how much they suck at acting. By the way only buy anamorphic movies made for open DVD. DIVX Sux the big one.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:33 a.m. CST


    by In the know

    Shaft, i'm interested in hearing who you think a good actor is. Someone who has only appeared in good films, and these films have to have made money. You name him, and I'll make you look like slap jawed faggot.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Lets Face Facts.

    by John Shaft

    My point isn't to say that Harrison Ford Is the worst actor, or the best actor, but to have a go at those people who cannot bear to hear bad things mentioned about him. Someone stated on this page that he has made some damn fine films, but the films he has been in recently have sucked. As soon as someone said that, someone else threatend to kill him for saying bad things about our main man harrison. Harrison can act, and has been in some damn fine films, but he, like most other stars, have made some crap. Face It. And he was embarrising during the drunk scene in Six Days Seven Nights.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:39 a.m. CST


    by Taliesin

    hey, I love Harrison Ford, and the man can act, just havent seen him do it anytime in the 90s. His recent films, while not hallmarks of film making are still watchable. Theyre mildly entertaining, "safe" describes them well. Half of what Hollywood pumps out is bland. Designed to appeal to everyman, with a few special effects thrown in to attract foreign boxoffice. Fords the perfect leading man for these type films. An aging but still goodlooking guy that changes very little from role to role. The man aint daring in his choices but hell he lives on a ranch and enjoys carpentry! That lays it all on the table, he likes his life monotonous. Cant expect his film roles to be much different. At $20 mil. a crack, Id settle for a little monotany, too!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:46 a.m. CST

    The Sum of All Fears

    by balin

    I have read a lot of books in many different genres and let me tell you, folks, The Sum of All Fears is the only one that ever scared the crap out of me. I don't think it will make a good movie, at least not in an adaptation true to the book. Personally, of Tom Clancy's stuff I'd rather see Without Remorse or The Cardinal of the Kremlin.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Rick Blaine's top 10 writers

    by Tector Gorch

    Rick, old buddy, I don't want to diss you too bad, specially since you run the coolest gin joint in all the world, but Kevin Williamson a top ten writer? C'mon, the guy's just a clever film student-type who's good at subverting horror cliches. And Shane Black!! Shane Black is just a second-rate actor who - extremely cleverly, mind you - just took every action movie cliche there is, threw in a ton of sadistic violence and a dictionary full of swear words and came up with the lame, plotless and stillborn 'Last Boy Scout'. That's the kind of amoral crap that gives movies a a bad name. Best writer in hollywood? Martin Scorsese. Now there's a guy who knows his f-words from his f-stops.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Concerning Ford and Sum of all fears

    by wonder

    I do agree that Harrison Ford is not the right part for Jack Ryan. I think the Alec Baldwin filled the role pefectly, and that Ford just doesn't seem to fit. That being said, My issue isn't with Ford being Ryan as much as the selection of movie being worked on. Sum of all fears in my opinion is one of Clancy's worst novels. He has some fairly good ones, and I believe they would make better movies. Fo instance, what wouldn't make a better movie then Without remorse? Easily Clancy's finest and most imaginative novel. William Dafoe was a great John Clark. But someone raised Gary Sinise's name, and I agree he would make an interesting pick for such a movie. Nevertheless, more mediocrity awaits us on the movie screen as Sum of all fears apears to be the pick. *sigh* What next? Another Godzilla movie?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:55 a.m. CST

    bad actor???

    by In the know

    Ok, Ford has been in some shitty films, but who hasn't? Does that mean that he's a shitty actor? If that were the case, you'd have to call John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, and Jack Nickolson bad actors as well. In which they clearly are not. The problem with you anti-jack ryan people is that your reading the novel before you see the film. Of course the movie not going to be as good. You've allready made the damb thing up in your head. If Indy 4 came out tomorrow, you'd be telling people it was the greatest film ever made, you'd buy it on DVD, laserdisc, and vhs. You'd have the soundtrack, the scriptbook, and the poster. The truth is that I don't belive any of you actually doubt Ford -- your just in hear two run your mouths. Check the internet favorite actors site -- Ford has been in the top five for the past five months, and he's currently number two. Hell, he wins the people's choice every other year. I've even heard Spielberg himself call Ford "the people's movie star". The problem with you people is that you don't know what the hell a good movie is. You only see the mony side of it. If it dosn't make $150 million, and Ford is in it, then it was a shitty movie. You people have no idea, and this is why your not writting scripts or acting or directing, or even holding the goddamn mic. I bet not one of you could play dead, never the less compair to Ford when he was a stage actor in college. This is exactly why you are only film fans -- rather than filmmakers!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by Stone Cold

    Listen Bitch! No shit! wrestling is fake. Where did you hear me even say it was not you damn jabrony. I know it is fake and you are right, wrestler's in movies don't mix. I never said they did. I like Stone Cold's attitude, and yeah its silly, but it is fun. However, It is not movies though, which we are talking about here you idiot. Damn jabrony, know your damn role before you speak. And that's the bottom line, cuz Stone Cold said so!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 10:11 a.m. CST


    by EvilStalin

    Why bother with this movie. X-Men!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Now back to the subject

    by Stone Cold

    I think this would be a good movie, but I do not want to see it before Indiana Jones IV. I do not believe the statement that it is not going to happen. All the parties invloved want to do it. Spielberg, Lucas, and Ford. They just need to make it happen.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 10:27 a.m. CST


    by Paddy Garcia

    It's easy to dump on the screenwriter isn't it? Not the director, not the stars, not the cinematographer. Always the writer. To be true, I have yet to be blown away by words that apparently came from Akiva Goldsman's pen. But consider this; just because the writer gets credit doesn't mean what's on the screen is his. We're talking about an industry that bows down before the so called "Auteur", and you have instances where a screenwriter works tirelessly to perfect their craft, only to have a director decide he wants to bring in "his own writer". Bye bye sweat and tear soaked script. Hello mediocre movie. I'm not trying to apologize for Goldsman - if he's worth his salt, he doesn't need me to. Remember this - virtually every film he's worked on was a Warners production with Joel Schumacher directing. Think about it.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Hoplophobic Harrison

    by Akambe

    I wouldn't be surprised if Harrison backed out of this one. He & Clancy don't get along politically AT ALL. One of the pivotal issues is gun control, and how Harrison is more & more refusing to even pick up a gun in some of his recent movies (Clear & Present Danger, Six Days & Seven Nights). And I disagree with the casting of William Dafoe as John Clark--he looks slimy & weasely, sorry bud but he does, and Clancy's John Clark is buff, straight, big, and kind but brutal. And nobody's mentioned this, but The Sum of All Fears doesn't mention Jack Ryan much at all, so the script writer will have their hands full trying to work him in. But i agree with the rest of ya--the next Clancy movie should be WITHOUT REMORSE! Yeah!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Tony C.

    by Stone Cold

    First off, I live in the city jerk. Second, I am not the one who keeps bringing up the wrestling subject. I have been talking about movies. Just because I use the persona of Stone Cold here at Talk Back does not mean I am here promoting wrestling. Third, I know they are acting in wrestling. That's why I find it entertaining to watch. If it were real it would be dull. And finally, I do not live for wrestling. It is not my favorite pasttime. It is just like any other show out there that I think has entertaining stories, with some episodes good and some bad. But, the bottom line is that It has no relevence here. I am not here to talk about wrestling. I just like using the Stone Cold I.D., and that is the last I will even waste my time explaining this.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Ford Can't Act

    by 123

    Myers is right H.Ford stopped acting long time ago. The cynical old coot just collects his paycheck and goes to his frigging ranch and pout about the world's trouble. And another thing Harrison, GET RID OF THAT RIDICULOUS EARING, YOUR AN OLD COOT FOR GOODNESS SAKES! YOUR JUST AN ACTOR - JUST AN ACTOR AND NOTHING MORE. BOB

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 11:25 a.m. CST


    by Uncapie

    I was fortunate to read Clancy's Magnum P.I. script. Fucking great!Magnum is pressed back into service for the Navy when an incident akes place bewteen North and South Korea boardering on nuclear war. Fucking great story and characters! Clancy wanted to GIVE this script to Universal o make and they said nobody would want to see Magnum again. I've heard of some dumb bastards before, but these guys take the cake in middle management over there! As for Akiva the Hack, he must have made a pact with the devil along with Joe Esterhaus. As for Harrison Ford, he's got my $8.50 at the box office.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Akiva IS the sum of all fears

    by Trebster

    No, no, no no as the Spice Girls' latest song starts off. No, they're not singing about Akiva Goldsman's addaption of a Tom Clancy novel - BUT THEY MAY AS WELL BE! Lost in Space? Doh! Batman & Robin? Doh! Mr. Goldsman bring us a dream, you are so crappy, so it does seem.. La, la, la, la.. la.. Forrest Gump says: That's all I have to say about that. So do I. Trebster, out.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 11:29 a.m. CST

    To the wrestling haters...

    by KingfisherD

    Geez, some of you people have got one hell of a bug up your ass... It was bad enough when you all started to holler about your hatred of Ford, or your hatred of those who hated Ford, but now some of you are getting all riled up about your hatred of WRESTLING? Christ, haven't you people got anything better to do? I mean c'mon, yes wrestling is fake. But I hate to break it to you... those movies you get all psyched about are FAKE TOO! You know why? Because it's entertainment, and usually entertainment is not real. If real life was as fun as entertainment, we WOULDN'T NEED entertainment. Professional wrestling is the entertainment form of athletics, and usually it's a heck of a lot more funny and action-packed than any of the so-called "sports movies" that come out. I would much rather watch the WWF for free on Monday nights on USA, than sit through double screenings of Major League 3 and The Waterboy. So for all of you who don't seem to realize that wrestling is actually watched by 30 million people every week and not just hicks, why don't you sit down and watch it from a "performance" point of view some time? Believe me, some (I said SOME - not ALL) of those bumps you'll see will look awfully real, and you'll never really be able to tell if the wrestler was really hurt or just "faking it". Maybe after you see a guy like Mick Foley throw himself off a 16 ft high steel cage through a wooden table on the floor below, you'll begin to appreciate the performances these guys go through every night. P.S. Stone Cold if you are going to emulate a wrestler, try sticking to only HIS bits, okay?... You've been mixing Austin's and Rock's bits together and it's sounding a little stupid.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Thanks KingfisherD

    by Stone Cold

    Yeah I know I have been mixing them, but honestly did not think anyone would notice. Should have known, with Sports entertainment becoming so big. I just like both attitudes if you know what I mean. However, I will keep it limited and keep focused on the subject matter. Once again, Please make Indiana Jones IV happen.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 11:58 a.m. CST


    by In the know

    Who gives a fuck about wrestling? This about how many of you say Ford can't act, but every movie he makes -- you have seen. He can't act, but you know every line in everyone of his movies. He can't act, but judging by how much of you know about his personal life -- your either queers, or you can't get enough of him. I think Ford is a great actor, and an underrated actor, but I don't think any of you really know what acting is. Why don't all of you give the guy a break. For God's sake, he is just an actor -- but thats his proffesion. How would you like it if someone said your just a movie buff, or your just a wana be, never will be. And as for the idiot who said Ford bitches about world affairs -- I have yet to have seen that one!! How about Travollta -- and his scientology bullshit! I have never once seen or heard of Ford using his celebrity status to push his views. And that my folks is a rare find. If you ask me, he's worth $20 million -- hell, i'd say twice that. Now how about Clancy? Now that fucking guy pushes his pollitical views in his novels, and you want to criticize Ford for playing a character? You want to say he can't act -- but he's only the most bankable actor in film history!!! You want to say he can't act -- but he's only been the people's choice sice the mid 80's!!! I think you people are full of shit. In case you hadn't noticed -- Harry posted about Ford's next project, so why are you here? I mean - since you all think he sucks. He sucks, but you want to find out what he's doing next? Yeh, I bet!!! You know as well as I do -- you'll see every fucking thing he makes!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Ford's latest films

    by Stone Cold

    You Know, I really enjoyed Air Force One. I thought both The Devil's Own, and Six Days and Seven Nights were entertaining. So maybe these movies do not compare to his earlier films such as the Indy trilogy. But if you compare every film he does to Indy, then they will all be "Not as Good". This does not mean that Ford has lost his skills. When he coils up the ol' whip again, I wonder how many of you will change your minds about Ford. And that's the bott... uuhh... never mind.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Ford bashers

    by 4-LOM/Zuckuss

    It's a good thing that most of us around still like Ford's movies and find them for what they are: escapist movies that are meant purely to entertain you and not convince you that it's the greatest movie ever made. 6Days was OK, Air Force One kicked ass because of Ford, and the last two Clancy movies were good. He's a better Ryan than Alec Baldwin b/c Baldwin played him like a helpless little bookworm, which the character is not. He's better than that, has a tough guy mentality in him, and Ford better conveys that then Baldwin. Ford is an underrated actor. He's only had one Award nomination and that was for Witness, still his best movie, but he's made plenty of good movies since then. Sum of all Fears is sure to be a good movie, and b/c Ford will be there doing what he's done since Han Solo first introduced himself to Luke Skywalker. Ford will be around for a while. Why? He has power: he made sure Titanic didn't open the same day as AF1, he didn't let Universal spend $80 mil on Age of Aquarius, since that movie would be a tough sell to the average moviegoer, and chooses the projects he wants to do, not the ones someone else wants him to do. That's why Ford is a great actor. And always will be.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Harrison is a sellout on this one

    by musicman

    I guess with old age comes the fear of obsolescence. It seems to me that old Harrison to trying to maintain his box office clout and $20 million paychecks by reprising a tired role that offers no challenge artistically but guarantees big numbers. Harrison, please do something fresh and original. Just because SIX DAYS, SEVEN NIGHTS was a disappoinment, at least it wasn't a movie with another damn Roman numeral behind it!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 12:34 p.m. CST

    The Director

    by Day4Night

    Well, we've run the gamut from Ford bashing to calling for Akiva's hide, to WWF. Don'tcha just love this place? So here's my two cents: Ford needs a strong Director. Think about it. His best roles to date have always had strong Directors behind the camera. I've heard Mr. Ford can be quite the curmudgeon on the set, and I think we've been seeing the results of that attitude in the last couple years. But hook the man up with a Spielberg, Lucas, Weir, or even Pakula (RIP), and he shines. I don't think there's any doubt in his mind that the whole Jack Ryan franchise is bubble gum with a bang for the masses, so yeah, he's not looking to be walking the steps of the Shrine come Oscar night. Paramount ain't gonna throw away the only other franchise besides Star Trek and Raiders that is sure to pull in the dough, and Ford is now cemented in everybody's mind as Jack Ryan. He can open a film like nobody, he's American as they come, and if Paramount wants to shell out 20 mil, give him every perk he asks for, and attach a director that will do what he says, I'm sure Mr. Ford is more than happy to oblige.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 12:36 p.m. CST

    To 4-LOM-Zuckuss

    by musicman

    Ford was also nominated for Best Actor for THE FUGITIVE, remember?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:02 p.m. CST

    It's Akiiivvvaaa

    by El Camino

    God no. Somebody please kill that man and put the world out of his misery.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:22 p.m. CST

    There's no excuse

    by JJ McClure

    A-list stars who take risks with roles: Tom Hanks, Jim Carrey, Tom Cruise, Nic Cage, Cameron Diaz, Johnny Depp. A-list stars who don't: Harrison Ford Think about it.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:43 p.m. CST

    The series

    by Kultros

    The Sum of all Fears is going to suck ass as a movie. Even if they rewrite the whole thing, it isn't going to be very good mainly because the only bit of action in the book is at the end and that consists of Clark and Chavez beating the crap out of the terrorists. The general premise of the book is for Ryan to run about and disagree with the president. As well as Dan Murray being dead, one of the key "plot" lines of the book is Ryan looking after the kids and wife of a helicopter gunner killed in the book of "Clear and Present danger". That didn't happen in the last film. This film is either going to be a testimony to some brilliant work of screenplay adaptation or one fucked up, plot hole ridden excuse to kill a set of films that I love. On a lighter note, Dafoe should definitley still be John Clark, they should get Raymond Cruz back as Chavez cause he was cool as hell and Rainbow Six could succeed where the Negotiatior failed. If not that, then No Remorse would be good cause we all love films about Special Forces. P.S Hunt for Red Octover was the best screenplay, tightest direction and best script of the three. If you'd given that to Harrison Ford he'd have done alright. Also Ford got Henry Czerny and Sean Bean to act against whereas Baldwin got Connery. Also Ford proved he could act with Connery in the Last Crusade. Not a great film, although I've always preferred this one, good memories I think. But it did prove they can work well together.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Why this adaptation will suck

    by VB

    Whether or not Akiva Goldsman or one of Hollywood's elite writers is involved in this script, "Sum of All Fears" will be trashed in order to give Ford some better scenes. Jack Ryan is the hero of the story, but not in usual Jack Ryan fashion--he saves the world with a phone call in the book. I don't know about you, but I don't think Ford is expecting a phone call to be his big scene in this movie. Unless Goldsman is planning on turning "Sum of All Fears" into a black comedy--with bumbling Muslim terrorists and turning the president into a moron, with the same type of feel as a "Dr. Strangelove"--this book will not translate to the big screen effectively. I love TC and JR and hope I'm wrong, but this movie just ain't gonna work IMO. "Cardinal" would have been the better one to do...a good director could have done so much with the torture chamber--but too bad Ford didn't want to do that one.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 2:07 p.m. CST

    academy awards

    by Taliesin

    musicman are you sasying ford was nominated for an oscar for the fugitive?? Tommy Lee Jones was but not Ford.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Akiva the Hack

    by gsu1996

    Not a Tom Clancy fan, but no one, no one desrves to be adapted by the worst criminal of the 20th Century, Akiva Goldsman! There should have been show trials to get to the bottom of the twin Batman abominations he presented to an unsuspecting world. Again, Akiva is the worst 'writer' of the 20th Century!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 2:29 p.m. CST

    the voice of reasen

    by MIA006

    Once again I'm going to play the voice of reason. First of all about Mr. Ford. I agree he doesn't fit Ryan as good as Baldwin, but I think he still fits. As for him not being a good actor, I just have to say your dumb. 6days and 7nights did not flop, it made back it's budget and then some. The Devils Own did not flop, it made back its budget and then some, so shut up. If he was so bad then people wouldn't go see him, and let's not forget his movies have made the most out of every other actor in the world. Over 2 billion dollars. Now as for "the sum of all fears". Some moron above posted a message suggesting it takes place before Clear and Present Danger, no you idiot. It didn't. Yes I realize Murray was killed which creates a problem for later books, but this could be very cool. At the end of the book there is a HUGE battle that takes place in germany, awesome. And let's not forget that nuclear weopon going off. Now I hope this does very well, because if it does then they can make Dept of Honor (AWESOME) and then they can make Executive Orders (my favorite). And I agree that they should make Without Remorse, and Rainbow Six, those books are freakin awesome. And no, the Ryan series is not dead. Clancy said in an interview that he might have a new Ryan novel out this year.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Harrison Ford and Hackiva Goldsman

    by Dash Rendar

    Okay, of all the $20 million actors in Hollywood, two never have taken a risk in their lives. Harrison Ford and Ah-nold. Even Leonardo DiCaprio (who can't act worth shit) took a role in Titanic. That film was destined to bomb, man. James Cameron pulled a rabbit out of his hat and seduced teenage girls around the world (I am not one-Titanic IMO was abysmal). I won't get into Arnie's faults either (he has too many). But Harrison Fords acting was at it's peak in two movies: The Empire Strikes Back and this other one about a bunch of Amish people-I forget it's name (That's not to say his other movies suck). IMHO, Harrison Ford can act but needs a good director to lay out his role for him. And that's only if the director realizes he can't interpret anything. Ivan Reitman didn't, but if he did, 6 Days, 7 Nights would have been grossing 100+ million, not the 60 or so it actually got. As for Akiva Goldsman, well, to put it simply you have to try to suck that bad. He just plain sucks.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 2:37 p.m. CST

    John Milius as Writer/Director

    by John McLame

    I'd be happy to see Philip Noyce direct the next one. I thought the last two had great tension. WHile I loved Red October, I don't think McTiernan has been good since that movie. *sigh* As for Akiva, ack... get John Milius to adapt it(I think he worked on the last one), & maybe he could direct this one!? Anyone remember Conan the Barbarian & Red Dawn? Yeah!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Clancy & Without Remorse

    by Fletcher

    The following comment is vulgarity-free, but may contain misspellings. I apologize: I seem to recall an interview with Clancy, say five years ago or so, where he mentioned selling the rights to WITHOUT REMORSE to the late Brandon Tartikof's production company (because of his frustrations with Paramount and the Ryan series). Said production was taking place in New Orleans with no less than Gary Sinise portraying John Kelly, aka, Mr. Clark. It's been my impression that this movie was in the can, but never released.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by gunny

    Let me mention how sick I am of all you bigots. You like to portray rural folks such as me as redneck/hicks, when you folks are displaying all the tolerance of the average Klu Kluxer. Like living in a small area with a bunch of other people makes you enlightened. Apologies to all the non-bigots who posted in talkback.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Tom Clancy Movies

    by Horgy

    Now, while I concede that the last 2 Jack Ryan movies could have been better (what's with the drunken chopper pilot in C&PD?) I have some faith that Sum of All Fears could be a good movie. Unfortunately, I can see that the way Paramount will probably get around the Russian/nuclear war-at-the-end problem is with another Harrison Ford-as-hero fistfight-at-the-end. If they make a good movie and don't cop out with that, I'd like to see it follow the book VERRRRYYY closely. There's really no reason that most of the H-bomb-at-the Super Bowl plot couldn't work as a movie, and I'd like to see Harrison Ford's character get equal plot-importance with Willem Dafoe and Raymond Cruz (John Clark and Ding Chavez) who were perfectly casted, by the way. Also, unfortunately, I'm not sure the makeup people can pull off making Willem Dafoe in 2000 look like Willem Dafoe in the 70's for a Without Remorse flick. I'd like to see it,but i have doubts. Rainbow 6 seems like it's too much like a video game (hey, it is) to make a good movie. The team is too big for the average moviegoier to remember who's who, and they should cut out one or two battles to make it a movie of reasonable length. Well, that's all i have to say.... for now

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:14 p.m. CST

    No Indy?

    by Chest Rockwell

    News of a new Jack Ryan movie is very cool, but I just cant believe that another Indy movie is not happening. Ford said that he'd do one on a heartbeat, and hasnt there been a rumor that a script is in the works now? If not that really would suck.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:16 p.m. CST

    No Indy?

    by Chest Rockwell

    News of a new Jack Ryan movie is very cool, but I just cant believe that another Indy movie is not happening. Ford said that he'd do one on a heartbeat, and hasnt there been a rumor that a script is in the works now? If not that really would suck.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:24 p.m. CST

    The Sum and screenwriters

    by Phil Orchard

    Okay, two points:

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:30 p.m. CST

    The Sum and screenwriters

    by Phil Orchard

    D'uh, sorry about that. Anyway two points. First the Sum could be a wicked movie. Sure there are the contradictions from the previous movies, but there's a hell of a lot in that book. They'll need to edit out some. Just don't let a hack do it! But come on, nothing bad has happened to the superbowl since that blimp movie in the seventies. Second, one of the best screenwriters, IMHO, is David Peoples. Sure soldier sucked, but that's because his original script got butchered. What about Unforgiven, Twelve Monkeys and Bladerunner?

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Get Milius!!!!

    by Vilos Cohaagen

    Have John Milius do it. He's the only screenwriter and director working today that has a realistic way with military technology and tactics and is able to write decent scenes that keep you interested plus he's a very good director. Goldsman couldn't write to save his ass. He killed the Batman series, Lost in Space was shit. As far as Clear and Present Danger goes, I don't know what people have against this film. It's very realistic in the way it portrays the spook/clandestine operations and the Secret Service and FBI use the ambush scene in their training now to show people about ambushes because they feel it was ultra realistic. Patriot Games was very unrealistic in it's portrayal of the IRA and just plain illogical.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:10 p.m. CST


    by Smyeguy

    AND JOEL SCHUMACHER, TOO! Only in the professional sense, of course. Actually, they both keep comitting ritual suicide of sorts, but keep Magoo-ing their way back into big flix. My key point: DIE AKIVA DIE JOEL

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:24 p.m. CST

    For John Shaft

    by Wong Kar Wai

    Hey Shaft, As we all know, there is only one black private dick who is a sex machine with all the chicks. Do you know who he is? Dolemite? Damn Right. Can you diggit? Anyways, Akiva Goldsman should not be killed. He should be able to write. But only Barney movies because the audience that sees that stuff will actually appreciate the half-assed, go for the bang and fuck for the buck writing that he does oh so well. John Milius? He should be forced to direct Akiva'a Barney movies. Watching Red Dawn was the worst movie experience I ever had. I actually felt sorry for the poor bastard.

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 9:51 p.m. CST


    by In the know

    You know dick about acting, writing, storytelling, or filmmaking. Who ever called Johny Depp an A-list actor should just never come back to this site! Nick Cage? Did you see Con-Air? It looked like he was acting for Christ's sake -- and without a doubt, that has to be the worst attempted accent yet. Tom Cruise? Give me a fucking break. This guy is only working because women love him. Tom Cruise sucks!!!!!!!!! Jerry Maguire sucked -- and talk about relying on the rest of the cast? Cubba made that film work, other than the fact that a bunch of overweight women think that Tom Cruise is Godd's gift to life. Face it asshole, Harrison Ford is the only star that men, women, and children all like. Ford's acting is not tired you stupid shit. He's plays the common man in uncommon situations, and thats what makes it work. And there are no other actors who can express themselves as well as Harrison Ford. You obviously know nothing about filmmaking nor acting. I think its sad if you think Nic Cage and Tom Cruise are good actors, cause you have no clue. Lets see if either of those two even last another ten years in this business. No fucking way!!! Ford will easily last as long as Conery and Eastwood. Notice, many of there roles and methods are similar. You think Ford walks through his films??? What about Conery as Bond? They have similar methods and styles, and they know what works -- you, however, don't have a fucking clue? And the fact that you think Ford's movies flop because of acting desturbs me. Writing and Directing are what make a movie good. Acting is what makes a character good. Perhaps the reason you think Ford's films of late suck -- is due to the fact that his acting outshines the entire story. And that, you fool, is a sign of a great great actor!!!

  • Jan. 20, 1999, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Listen up, John Shaft and Wong Kar Wai, you jive ass muthas!

    by Uncapie


  • Jan. 21, 1999, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Akiva's good and bad

    by wraith

    First of all, I would like to expres smy dismay at the profanity and lack of any form of grammar at the lion's share of respondents. In order to hold an intelligent debate, profanity is unnecessary, and, more than often not, hindering. Now, on to Akiva. Yes, Batman and Robin and Lost in Space were horrible films. However, remember that Batman and Robin was put through no less than 10 comedic "rewriters" in order to punch up the humor, Dennis Miller being one of these. Now I have always been wary of films with any more than 2 writers. 3 is my limit, but 11 is a "too many chef's spoil the broth" situation waiting to happen. I have no possible explanations for Lost In Space. Finally, we must remember the excellent work Akiva did on "A Time To Kill". This was also, a novel adaptation. I'm not saying I want Akiva writing the next Jack Ryan movie, but at least don't discredit him completely.

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Plot changes

    by Ranger1138

    C'mon give me a break! You think for one second they will blow up Denver? No way! Also, how in the hell can you do the ending at the Pentagon? Paramount destroyed this cash cow for fans of the books when they led Dan die. Anything other movies should have a caption that says "based on the title of the best selling book". I agree that Ford can sleepwalk through a film. He has chosen safe projects that really don't require much so why not show up say the lines and cash the check. I don't think it bothers him at night at his huge Montana ranch. It he wasn't bringing in the audiences he wouldn't get his asking price. It is that simple. If he wants to get by...Why not? Who's gonna stop him anyway. He did blame himself for "The Devil's Own" BTW.On CNN he said that he knew the project was doomed because the started shooting before there was a finished rewrite of the final script. As far as Indy 4... He has always said that he gets hurt when making those films. I can't really blame him on that point but he has had six years to get the film done and he put off. Let me put on my fire retardant clothing first before I say this but... How about recasting Ryan and [ dare I say it because it is going to happen eventually ] Indy? Okay, now you can hate me, however, let's be objective about this. Ford was too old for Ryan back in the Patriot days anyway. Now let me duck behind this bulletproof wall.

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Plot changes

    by Ranger1138

    C'mon give me a break! You think for one second they will blow up Denver? No way! Also, how in the hell can you do the ending at the Pentagon? Paramount destroyed this cash cow for fans of the books when they led Dan die. Anything other movies should have a caption that says "based on the title of the best selling book". I agree that Ford can sleepwalk through a film. He has chosen safe projects that really don't require much so why not show up say the lines and cash the check. I don't think it bothers him at night at his huge Montana ranch. It he wasn't bringing in the audiences he wouldn't get his asking price. It is that simple. If he wants to get by...Why not? Who's gonna stop him anyway. He did blame himself for "The Devil's Own" BTW.On CNN he said that he knew the project was doomed because the started shooting before there was a finished rewrite of the final script. As far as Indy 4... He has always said that he gets hurt when making those films. I can't really blame him on that point but he has had six years to get the film done and he put off. Let me put on my fire retardant clothing first before I say this but... How about recasting Ryan and [ dare I say it because it is going to happen eventually ] Indy? Okay, now you can hate me, however, let's be objective about this. Ford was too old for Ryan back in the Patriot days anyway. Now let me duck behind this bulletproof wall.

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 1:31 a.m. CST

    What Do You Expect?

    by General Phoenix

    I agree that Harrison Ford's performance in "Six Days" was not the same as in "Indiana Jones" and I know exactly why that is: Because THEY'RE NOT THE SAME MOVIE. What makes Harrison Ford such an exceptional actor is his ability to play THE PART, rather than playing himself. In the "Indy" films, he IS Indiana Jones, a cocky, womanizing hero. In "Regarding Henry" he is a man learning to live again from scratch. And in "Six Days" he is a crude drunken lout. If Ford played HIMSELF in every one of his films, I would stop watching them, not because the film sucked, but because I was bored. In the same respect, I think that some of you disparage certain movies because of what they WERE NOT, rather than what they were. For example, most of you hated "Godzilla" because it had no good characters, no good plot, and little good acting. My question is, "WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM A MOVIE ABOUT A BIG LIZARD?" I loved "Godzilla", because I went into it EXPECTING a movie about a big lizard - I got what I wanted, and I felt satisfied. So please, judge a film on what it is, not what you wish it was...

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Harrison Ford - ALL TIME FAVORITE

    by Templer

    Hi, everyone I'm really excited about this upcoming film, and by the sound of it here, so are the majority of all Talk Back posters. Of course, some people seem to hold a certain anger and hostility toward Screenwriter Akiva Goldsman. These feelings, I do not understand. But regardless of how many "movie-buffs" out there hate Mr. Goldsman, he has been working long and hard on this script. He understands and accepts his own limitations. Paramount and Mace Neufeld have put a considerable amount of pressure on Mr. Goldsman to develop and deliver a First-Class script. And, I'm sure that he will deliver. As for Mr. Harrison Ford, let me say this: Ford is truly one gifted & great actor. He is a past Oscar nominee, Four Time Golden Globe Nominee (all for Best Actor), and a Two-Time British Academy Award Best Actor Nominee. He can do things that haven't been done since the days of Gary Cooper & John Wayne. His everyman quality appeals to millions of filmgoers around the world. His honesty is real, his respect for people is sincere. He has earned the trust of the movie-going public. He is our #1 Movie Star, and the person we look to, to lead us into the second century of cinema. His grace, hard work and modesty make him seem as a perfect role model for younger people, and an example as to what Hollywood or Showbiz in general should be like. When Ford leaves the Silver-Screen for good, I feel that there will be an aching pain in many a people's stomaches, and a longing for him for many years to come. There will be something missing, something gone from us, Hollywood's brighest & most reliable star - one of you & I, Harrison Ford. He has set records that others thought were unreachable. His movies have grossed more money at the Box-Office than any other actor in the History of Cinema. His North American Box Office total for all of his major films is at $2.85 Billion Dollars. His World-Wide Box Office take has now crossed over the $5 Billion Dollar Mark. The Movie-Going Public, in Poll after Poll, name him the Most Popular Movie Star of All-Time. Recently: The People's Choice Awards - Ford was voted "ALL-TIME FAVORITE MOTION PICTURE STAR" In the recent announcement of the Annual Harris Poll regarding most famous movie-stars, Harrison Ford was voted #1. You see, the point I'm trying to make is, regardless of how this project is perceived now to be, it doesn't matter. Because Harrison Ford has had the long history of delivering. Delivering for the people that matter the most. And the one's that matter the most are US. And Ford hasn't let the greater majority of us down yet. And I'm sure he won't start now. Don't sweat the Goldsman situation. I'm sure everything will turn out fine. Take care everyone. :o)

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Seventies blimp movie

    by Captain Mallet

    Sod Sum of all fears, I want them to do the Kardinal of the Kremlin. Easily the best Clancy book after Hunt for the Red Boner. Besides how do they intend to do the ``thousands of charred dead people still in their seats at the superbowl after the atomic bomb has gone off'' scene without getting a NC:17 rating? By the way what was the name of that seventies blimp movie? that one was cool.

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Burn, Akiva, Burn

    by exone

    Do I have to repeat myself? Akiva has done nothing in his past fuck ups some call movies to prove that he could even come close to handling this type of material. Hey, I've got a great plot line. Have Jack Ryan taking a shit while cracking a bunch of lame ass one liners. "Shit happens." "Boy, when the admiral hears about this, the shits gonna hit the fan." "Honey, I'm having a shitty day!" Akiva blows ass. Woof.

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Harrison Ford

    by In the know

    Harrison Ford is the greatest thing since the advent of toilet paper what some of you people are saying about him sucking is just plain bullshit. If there were no more Ford films to ever come out again - it would feel like you were wipeing your ass with you hand. Ford is the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • Jan. 21, 1999, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Actors in Clancy characters

    by harvdog

    I like Ford as an actor, but I always thought Alec Baldwin was a much better Jack Ryan. I also like William Defoe, but I really think they need to recast him out of the role of John Clark. He just doesn't fit.

  • Jan. 22, 1999, 6:32 a.m. CST


    by In the know

    Currently, I have the last word. And, the last word is what counts. So, in my last words, I will say that Harrison Ford is the Greates actor to ever be printed on celluloid!!!! Bottom line -- Ford is the shit, and ain't nobody gonna change that.