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ROGER RABBIT 2
We have all been hearing rumors about a ROGER RABBIT 2 since the second we walked out of the first one. It was, in a lot of ways, the bell tolling the rebirth of animation in the modern age. Why? Because it brought in a ton of money, and where there's money... there are a gajillion execs saying, "I want that!!!" I remember reading a scriptment quite a whiles back entitled Roger Rabbit 2: Toon Goto War or something like that. It had Rog and everyone fighting Hitler... Well that got dumped. Then about a year ago we heard they were thinking about doing a huge Busby Berkeley style musical film with Rog and his universe of characters. Well... let's hope. First off, that is still the plan according to my latest correspondences. For those of you that are unfamiliar with BUSBY BERKELEY's style... well, he made musicals that were Behind the Scenes of staged musical numbers (some of his films are 42ND STREET, FOOTLIGHT PARADE, GOLDDIGGERS OF 1933, DAMES, etc). They were set duing prohibition, before the Hays Code when films were a bit more risque. Usually the female characters wanted to get the rich guy, the show promoter or director, . Also the big musical show at the end to raise money always HAD TO BE A HIT!!! But the coolest thing about Berkeley's musicals were the musical numbers themselves.
Did you ever wonder what sort of drugs Dr Seuss took? He didn't, instead he watched Busby's kalidescopic displays of women in surreal settings. As soon as the big dances began, you entered a magical world that was wholly created by Busby Berkeley. The music was written by Harry Warren, with the lyrics usually coming from Al Dubin. Usually there were 3 'happy' song numbers, 1 instumental and 1 serious/pathos laden piece.
Well with Roger Rabbit 2, the plot is being guarded closer than Jessica Rabbit's knickers. It will be a prequel set during prohibition. Alan Menken has already scored the film and the word is it sounds utterly fantastic. The characters will be done three dimensionally. Not quite like in the first film, but as something new. It will be done (I've heard) in CG, but it's gonna have a look that we haven't seen before, making the cartoon characters look like they are a bit more of this world than of the toon world. The movie is planned to be released after all of our computers are dead, except you Mac users, so this is a story that we are gonna continue looking at for some time to come. I'm looking forward to see what them folks at Disney have in store. I hope Sir Etch A Sketch is on it.
Well with Roger Rabbit 2, the plot is being guarded closer than Jessica Rabbit's knickers. It will be a prequel set during prohibition. Alan Menken has already scored the film and the word is it sounds utterly fantastic. The characters will be done three dimensionally. Not quite like in the first film, but as something new. It will be done (I've heard) in CG, but it's gonna have a look that we haven't seen before, making the cartoon characters look like they are a bit more of this world than of the toon world. The movie is planned to be released after all of our computers are dead, except you Mac users, so this is a story that we are gonna continue looking at for some time to come. I'm looking forward to see what them folks at Disney have in store. I hope Sir Etch A Sketch is on it.
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O.K., it might sound silly to all youse other film geeks, but Who Framed Roger Rabbit is my favorite movie of all time. The news of a prequel or even a sequel, is the greatest news I've heard since I first heard that George Lucas was planning to make the prequels about 6 or 7 years ago on Entertainment Tonight. (I got it taped somewhere to prove it was that long ago.) NOTE: I'm not saying that Who Framed Roger Rabbit is the BEST film ever made, not even in my opinion. It's just my FAVORITE.
(For any who give a rat's ass, I agree with the AFI in saying that Citizen Kane is the Best movie of all time.) -
O.K., it might sound silly to all youse other film geeks, but Who Framed Roger Rabbit is my favorite movie of all time. The news of a prequel or even a sequel, is the greatest news I've heard since I first heard that George Lucas was planning to make the prequels about 6 or 7 years ago on Entertainment Tonight. (I got it taped somewhere to prove it was that long ago.) NOTE: I'm not saying that Who Framed Roger Rabbit is the BEST film ever made, not even in my opinion. It's just my FAVORITE.
(For any who give a rat's ass, I agree with the AFI in saying that Citizen Kane is the Best movie of all time.) -
I live in Maryland and we just had a rather large ice storm that knocked out power all over. My house just restored power about ten minutes ago, but this afternoon I was over an aunts house who had power, and I just happen to watch Roger Rabbit and started thinking about all those rumours of a sequal. Now I never hear the rumour about fighting Hitler, but I did here this prohibition rumour, a long, long time ago. This isn't new, why are we talking about it. Harry (no offense pal, this site rocks) didn't even say who the player were and if anyone has signed on yet. I would take this to much at heart if I were you.
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This Kicks ass! I loved the first one. I can't wait!!!
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I had heard tons of concepts thrown at the Roger Rabbit character and, frankly, they all sounded perfectly awful and thoroughly unwatchable. However, with this big time boffo musical concept, I think I could really get behind this! Omigosh! An idea that not only doesn't suck but stays true to the spirit of the character and surroundings! Is this possible in modern Hollywood ?!?
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If they're going to use 3d computer modeling to make the characters, they ought to have a 3D segment.....like the opening animated cartoon in the first movie.
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3-D computer animation would completely ruin this movie. The fact that these are CARTOON characters is the whole point of the movie, so why would they want to make them 3-D? I think that is the dumbest thing that they could do to this movie. If you want us to think of these as cartoon characters existing along side real people then why eliminate the whole cartoon feeling by making them look real? Just sounds pretty pointless to me.
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Whats with all this computer modeling shit? Classic cartoon characters demand a classic style of animation. Betty Boop in 3D makes no sense in a RR movie, no matter how good it looks.
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I don't know about anyone else, but personally, I think that this concept is a really great idea. Think about it... at that time EVERYONE was enlisting to beat the Axis... so why not Toons?? It's too bad because I enjoy movies where people battle Hitler and the Nazis...
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I had just recently heard about the various Roger Rabbit sequel/prequel ideas, and personally, this musical idea sounds weak. "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" was a nearly perfect film. It had something for everyone. Even if cartoons ain't your thing, you had to be wowed by the amazing visual effects. How can a musical sequel add to the original? I don't think it can, with or without Alan Menken writing the songs (anyone remember "Newsies" his other 1930's extravaganza?). I think that following up a mystery with a musical makes absolutely no sense (Roger Rabbit was at heart film noir turned on its rabbit-ears). The original was totally unexpected. In what way is an animated musical unexpected? I really liked the concept for Roger Rabbit II: The Toon Platoon, because it was as strange an idea as the first. And some of Walt Disney's best work was made for the war effort. It would be cool to see that mix of wacky war effort(Donald vs. Hitler) with Disney's own serious propaganda stuff (Allies vs. Axis) with Roger in the middle of it. I'd love to see Jessica Rabbit singing "Bi Mier Bisch Du Schein" at the USO. Saving Private Herman? Perhaps. But at least it would be daring and unexpected. Heard Kathleen Turner might suit up for Jurrasic Park III. Yuck. This is the proposed sequel she should lend her pipes to.
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I think 3d effects are possible. You're probably thinking that it'll be like a bug's life, or Antz Style. BUT if you've ever heard of softimage's Toonz, you can use the 3d and make it look like traditional animation with an edge. I've seen some clips of an animated Superman series, can't remember the title offhand at the moment. But it handled it very well. So if they work it in approximately the same style it could very well work.
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if they do a prohibition-era Roger Rabbit, who are they going to get to populate the film? Oswald the Lucky Rabbit? Gertie the Dinosaur? the majority of filmgoers are not going to recgonize most of the background characters that filled the frames of WFRR. Bugs, Daffy, Screwy, Woody, Goofy, Donald, et al, didn't hit the scene for several years. then there's the problem of color: all cartoons at that time were in B&W. Should the 'toons show up in color, it will negate the Betty Boop's cameo at the Ink&Paint Club. Feature-length animated film didn't come along unitl Walt put balls to the wall and gave us _SnowWhite_. How's the Prohibition script going to reconcile this? The 'Toon Platoon is a much better idea and has far greater potenital.
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and Jessica Rabbit should be naked for the entire film!
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This is for all of you nay-sayers that would be disappointed with 3d cgi characters....RIVERFOX is right, the Toonz plugin for softimage would do the trick nicely. Riverfox are there any examples out there on the web for us to gander at? (personally i think it would be cheating but it would still look great). By the way, CBS showed the LD of Roger Rabbit with all its extra scenes in place(including the imfamous Jessica Rabbit nakkid scene! **OOPS**) , and I've never heard Daffy saying "god damn stupid N*****" durring the piano duel, but then again, I've never really paid that close attention to it. :O) -McKracken
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Of course we're living in the past! That's the whole point!!! They didn't have computer animated characters in Roger Rabbit's time, so we shouldn't see them. I'm definitely a little disappointed by the CG thing. If it's a sequel (or prequel) it shouldn't be a completely new style! Nothing's wrong with RR now, so why try to improve?
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Nov 29, 2005 6:45:05 PM CST
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by jackpumpkinhead
Firstly, there is no "Roger Rabbit" sequel - nor is there a prequel. Secondly, speaking of the latter, some of you will be disappointed with the Star Wars prequels. Now... watch the skieeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss...............
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